Perk on the Hawks splitting up Dejounte Murray & Trae Young 🗣️ 'The duo needs to end!' | NBA Today

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2 ай бұрын

Ramona Shelburne, Kendrick Perkins and Zach Lowe join Richard Jefferson on NBA Today to discuss whether the Atlanta Hawks should value Dejounte Murray over Trae Young.
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@1RobertSmith
@1RobertSmith Ай бұрын
The Atlanta Hawks never won a game in the Eastern Conference Finals until Trae Young arrived. Not with Wilkins, not with Mutumbo, not with anyone else ever. Put some respect on Trae's name
@demarquisjohnson5697
@demarquisjohnson5697 Ай бұрын
Whomever you are thank you for basketball knowledge based thoughts!
@kareemblackston2049
@kareemblackston2049 Ай бұрын
And they haven't won one since it was a fluke they proved that the following year
@Drewscrilla
@Drewscrilla Ай бұрын
No
@1RobertSmith
@1RobertSmith Ай бұрын
@@kareemblackston2049 they were up 2 to 1 against Milwaukee until Trae got hurt,, the trajectory was Game 7 and that was after beating #1 seed 76ers. That Hawks team ended Ben Simmons career as we know it. Interesting that 60yrs+ of Atlanta Hawk basketball a fluke neva occurred B4 Trae
@kareemblackston2049
@kareemblackston2049 Ай бұрын
@@1RobertSmith it was a fluke the teams weren't good and they proved that the last 3 years look at trae young the Miami series
@Davivd2
@Davivd2 2 ай бұрын
-The duo needs to end!- The duo should have never been put together in the first place *FIXT*
@LysergiCoyotl
@LysergiCoyotl 2 ай бұрын
Trae Young is not a winning player, adding Murray was a fine move, but Trae can't win leading a team, he's a 2b or 3 on a winning team not #1.
@ovp66223
@ovp66223 2 ай бұрын
@@LysergiCoyotl Exactly, he's going to be on bad teams his whole career, because if he's playing 35+ minutes a night, he's taking up the spot of a more well-rounded player. He is a defensive liability (being kind) and only good on offense one ever 4 or 5 games. How many times am I gonna look at the box score and see 4-20, 5-18 shooting nights and wonder what others see in this NBA boat anchor?
@8wayB
@8wayB 2 ай бұрын
@@LysergiCoyotltook the hawks to six games against the champ bucks in the eastern conference finals only three years ago.🥱
@LysergiCoyotl
@LysergiCoyotl 2 ай бұрын
@@8wayB lmao bro exactly... ok let's talk about that series that he lost... He shot 43% FG and 26% 3PT in that series... pathetic. Had worst defensive rating of anyone on either team at 123. Had most turnovers of anyone on either team at 24 in 6 games. Getting that far in playoffs that year involved some luck w Knicks/Randle and Ben Simmons/76ers choking and imploding in various ways. Trae played great and obviously helped win those series with his offense but the buck stops there man --- that was as good as it gets with Trae --- his efficiency and defensive limitations mean he will never win a conference finals as the #1 guy, ever, mark my words.
@Regalieth9143
@Regalieth9143 Ай бұрын
@@LysergiCoyotlIs that why he led that team single-handedly to the ECF? Please think before you speak boy.
@moneymaccnok4928
@moneymaccnok4928 Ай бұрын
Unpopular Opinion: You don’t need to trade either. Trae and Dejounte can work. But don’t rub the offense through the two. Use JJ to initiate/bridge the offense. Let Trae move around freely and use his speed to open up the court.
@aaronomics101
@aaronomics101 Ай бұрын
Thats a good read. Non of these people watch the Hawks. They don't know the current winning is because of team defense picking up. The Hawks offensive rating has dipped majorly but the team defense makes up for it.
@alignalkaline
@alignalkaline Ай бұрын
I agree & said the same. Jalen can create mismatches against every team. Think of the other Johnson > Magic.2024🎉. Plenty more triple doubles on the way with the right gameplan, strategy & rotations. This will allow Jalen, Trae, DM5, Bogi & others to run, score more & make the other teams adjust to them. It depends on Quin giving Jalen the keys & floor general position. Potentially the highest scoring team in the league
@karodstrong4702
@karodstrong4702 Ай бұрын
Trae young isn't fast
@moneymaccnok4928
@moneymaccnok4928 Ай бұрын
@@karodstrong4702 actually Trae has quick twitch speed. Not Fox type of speed but adequate enough to make teams have to play safe
@Joefdgtr
@Joefdgtr Ай бұрын
2 Years of evidence would suggest its just not working. No qualms it happens but not reacting to the issue is a mistake. The team is anti tax and already depleted on tradeable picks. My guess is the FO will just continue running it back to fight for a play-in position, as they will be asking high on Trae/DJM.
@TheMissiIe
@TheMissiIe 2 ай бұрын
Remember when the Grizzlies were 25-2 without Ja? No one was seriously saying they should trade Ja, but Hawks should trade Trae? Makes no sense
@juanr8042
@juanr8042 2 ай бұрын
It does make, cause ja had nobody in his same position as good or remotely close to him, but in this case they have 2 point guards with a similar level, so they can pick one and get picks or an allstar to pair with the one who stays
@sharifnasser7635
@sharifnasser7635 2 ай бұрын
Why pick murray over trae. Everyone knows whos better. Trae proved he can get to the playoffs and make a run
@juanr8042
@juanr8042 2 ай бұрын
@@sharifnasser7635 trae proven but murray also a baller and a solid defender. Depends on if they wanna win already or keep building for the future. Trae also gets more money
@rodneywilliams1300
@rodneywilliams1300 2 ай бұрын
​@@juanr8042Murray is not a solid defender. He gets cooked 90 percent of the time. He is just a high steals guy. Not a good man to man defender.
@TheMissiIe
@TheMissiIe 2 ай бұрын
@juanr8042 Murray is a gimmick defender. He almost never forces tough shots, he just has quick hands to get loose steals
@KingPhilip_ULP
@KingPhilip_ULP 2 ай бұрын
These ppl don't realize that Murray hasn't been the only change to the line-up. Quin has been better since he's gotten out of his 8-man rotation and explored minutes with more of the young guys.
@MarcSeePhoto
@MarcSeePhoto 2 ай бұрын
Fax 📠
@benjaminwerth
@benjaminwerth 2 ай бұрын
defense matters. Trae is the worst defender in the league. His offense isn't overwhelming enough to make up for his singularly terrible D. I would never employ a player who is that terrible on one side of the ball.
@538696
@538696 2 ай бұрын
Vit Crew!!!
@ShaBalla
@ShaBalla 2 ай бұрын
lol Trae took them to a Eastern Conference Finals trade him i guess Trae gon hoop regardless
@xeniwargaming
@xeniwargaming 2 ай бұрын
It was a fluke obviously
@ShaBalla
@ShaBalla 2 ай бұрын
@@xeniwargaming or the hawks haven’t built the team right
@xeniwargaming
@xeniwargaming 2 ай бұрын
@@ShaBalla I’d agree to that. But they haven’t looked good since that playoff series. Coaching has been an issue whether it’s the players following or the coaching itself. The hawks moved their chips in way to early.
@TheBlackSands
@TheBlackSands 2 ай бұрын
They got amnesia on these shows bruh 😂
@TruthSpeaker4
@TruthSpeaker4 Ай бұрын
Trae trash& plays no Defense
@taylorsmith1981
@taylorsmith1981 2 ай бұрын
Someone should tell Zach he has a microphone on so he doesn’t have to yell
@blablablaa14
@blablablaa14 2 ай бұрын
The problem is this shows how little impact Trae truly has on winning. If he had value before, its lower now cause the teams interested know he's less of a winning play than Dejounte
@Jnoel608
@Jnoel608 2 ай бұрын
Philly??
@blablablaa14
@blablablaa14 2 ай бұрын
The Hawks will have a tough time accepting anything less than 3 first round picks for Trae because that's what they paid for DJ. But Philly and others don't have enough assets/don't want to trade that much for Trae@@Jnoel608
@Luke-bj8mr
@Luke-bj8mr 2 ай бұрын
Trae plays losing basketball. He is a bad stats bad team player.
@538696
@538696 2 ай бұрын
This doesn't show that. DJM plays much better without Trae. And the change of hunter at 4 with a real 2 guard in Bogi and a dime and D wing in Vit creates advantages not possible with both guards on the floor.
@slumdogrio
@slumdogrio 12 күн бұрын
@@538696and the same can be said in reverse. Trae plays much better without Murray. The point is they shouldn’t have been paired to begin with!
@juanr8042
@juanr8042 2 ай бұрын
Trae and wemby together would be crazy
@blablablaa14
@blablablaa14 2 ай бұрын
Crazy bad? If the Hawks are better without Trae, why you think they want his inefficient, none winning style in the Spurs? He's literally the opposite of what a "Spurs player" is. The Spurs bought the Hawks future relying on Trae to make it bad. If they trade for him its an awful move for the spurs. Sincerely a Spurs fan
@juanr8042
@juanr8042 2 ай бұрын
@@blablablaa14 well the spurs being so long without a good pg that you dont remind what it is so thats probably it. Young would make wemba aveeage 30 next season
@Davivd2
@Davivd2 2 ай бұрын
@@juanr8042Bro. They literally had Dejounte Murray and let him go.
@daltonoftheyear
@daltonoftheyear 2 ай бұрын
crazy bad idea lol
@randomtrends2839
@randomtrends2839 2 ай бұрын
Facts bro . Lob city madness
@tyrelljohnson6901
@tyrelljohnson6901 2 ай бұрын
The difference is there defense. That's why they have a winning record without trae.
@aaronomics101
@aaronomics101 Ай бұрын
Team playing team defense has nothing to do with Trae Young. It's the team actually trying to win without Trae. Trae is so good people watch him play, instead of play with him. It's not Traes fault that the team started to play well without him. Their offense is worse, but they started to play team defense. I wish these people would actually watch the Hawks.
@joshuachipman4163
@joshuachipman4163 2 ай бұрын
Trae is a one way player. Dejounte isnt. You can see the difference when murray has the ball in his hands and agressive. Guy was the nost underrated player in the league on the spurs
@dillamadukes21
@dillamadukes21 Ай бұрын
Trade away all our future draft capital for a 40 million dollar contract that gets us a play in birth. No thanks. I'd rather the spurs be mediocre (35ish wins), draft and develop talent, and then see what we have to work with in 2026.
@joshuachipman4163
@joshuachipman4163 Ай бұрын
@@dillamadukes21 the videos about splitting up the hawks not the spurs future? It's failed. Trae really struggles in your rotation on the defensive end, watching teams switch till there on him is sad.
@dillamadukes21
@dillamadukes21 Ай бұрын
@@joshuachipman4163 Sorry man. Any time the hawks or Tre Young is brought up, an army of thirsty Spurs fans collectively fantasize about crazy trade packages and his "role" in the offence. We just got our guy yesterday and fans already want to push all the chips on the table.
@joshuachipman4163
@joshuachipman4163 Ай бұрын
​@@dillamadukes21no worries man. I don't think murray is the awnser for the spurs either. Spurs are missing multiple pieces at this point, just going take time.
@calebnegash5444
@calebnegash5444 2 ай бұрын
I just don’t think that trae and Murray are gonna work
@monchlogoc2373
@monchlogoc2373 19 күн бұрын
Trade Murray. 5-7 teams are interested with him. And now with the number 1 pick? Young stays. Murray has more tradeable assets to young
@calebnegash5444
@calebnegash5444 18 күн бұрын
@@monchlogoc2373 yeah the number one pick changes everything and since we all know they probably picking Alex sar they have to chose the better playmaker In trae and I think they should trade capela
@jordandibon7745
@jordandibon7745 2 ай бұрын
This is absolutely a disrepect on trae 🤦‍♂️ and for me it is not even a debate just because he has lead the team for a moment makes him better lmao
@alignalkaline
@alignalkaline Ай бұрын
Trae is & has been the overall statistical leader in many categories. NOW, Trae is unselfish enough to know he doesn't have to do as much anymore. So,they'll play better as they get ready for the playoffs. Murray's playing great at nearly 2 years. Now without Trae doesn't mean they can't win together. Or that they should get rid of them. Hawks are building a competitive team that includes the remarkable Jalen Johnson & the (buzzer beater) DM5. Along with Bogi & other hungry guys. They're beginning to become a young exciting team. The Hawks are not swayed by criticism & rumors from bobble heads who don't watch or like the hawks anyway. Yet want them to trade away their best talent for unproven picks & unwanted players. IT'S FUNNY HOW RUMOURS PERSIST. The Hawks aren't trading them and getting fleeced to become a worst team. The goal is to get better & make the team deeper. And compete in the playoffs. People want to see them lose & trade Trae, Murray or Bogi to another team. That's not how you build a winning team. The Hawks are a young team thats better than their record shows. No need to trade their best guys. Go Hawks
@TheBLACKSTARmovement
@TheBLACKSTARmovement 2 ай бұрын
PREACH Zach!!
@DonomecciPorter
@DonomecciPorter 2 ай бұрын
Dont split them that would be stupid they just need to be healthy they can do some in the playoff
@hobbyog4786
@hobbyog4786 2 ай бұрын
Split them up..both players are good but they both need the ball in their hands.
@chriskatona1705
@chriskatona1705 2 ай бұрын
So I'm gonna say something that might strike some people. Nola needs a real point guard, and a rim running/defending center. Nola has a bunch of wings who would be great with trae. Nola needs to start trae murphy and pay him. They have way too many good wings already. What if Nola can give up brandon Ingram, jonas or nance and a pick or 2 for trae young and capela. Now atlanta can pay onyeka and move murray to the 1. I think this actually works for both teams. Nola is one of the teams that can protect trae. Also, atlanta doesn't have to blow it up. If they were to blow it up then trading with SA is the move because they own ATL's picks.
@devinlvq
@devinlvq 2 ай бұрын
So your great idea is to pair Zion with Capela who won't shoot anything past the paint, and with Young who's playmaking skills aren't worth the defensive liability on a team that already plays their best when Zion is the one distributing. Also, yes Capela is a better defender than JV but you have to think of the ultimate rival, Jokic. In that particular matchup, JV has a much better chance of making it tough for Jokic than Capela does cause of body type. Jokic kills skinny frame centers everytime
@devinlvq
@devinlvq 2 ай бұрын
I think NOLA would be better off trading McCollum, Naji and a pick for Dejauntay. The Center position is something that can be fixed in the FA since they don't need the center to be a star, he can just ne a solid athletic backup center that produces a bit more than Nance, although Nance actually plays great with Zion
@shun8733
@shun8733 2 ай бұрын
Not trading Ingram for trae… cj for dejounte
@MarquisVegan
@MarquisVegan 2 ай бұрын
As a Spurs fan I will take Trae to be a highly talented caliber role player for Wemby.
@antuskeith7178
@antuskeith7178 2 ай бұрын
Feel like this is similar to Jaylen Brown & Jason Tatum when they both got paired together in the initial stages
@LysergiCoyotl
@LysergiCoyotl 2 ай бұрын
meh not really ... Brown and Tatum are leading their team to #1 record and for the most part form a 2 headed offensive monster , both play a little bit of defense lol, don't overlap each other in a negative way too much ... Hawks are sputtering, Trae Young is a losing player because he doesn't play defense or even really shoot efficiently
@antuskeith7178
@antuskeith7178 2 ай бұрын
@@LysergiCoyotl in the Initial stages of them being together this was the same talk. They were saying Brown should be traded...and NOW they have become what you are saying but it took some time
@Jnoel608
@Jnoel608 2 ай бұрын
Philly?
@Goxilla
@Goxilla Ай бұрын
Trae Young is a hell of an offensive player but probably the worst defensive player in the league. He reminds me of Damian Lillard who is also a terrible defender. You need 4 really good defenders around him at all times but I don´t see ATL pulling that off any time soon so yea trade him and rebuild. I also think he can´t be the #1 option on a championship team since he does get cold at times
@LysergiCoyotl
@LysergiCoyotl 2 ай бұрын
Well I mean Trae Young is basically inefficient trash who gives up 2 baskets for every one he makes so of course they should trade him 😂
@TheGod2go
@TheGod2go 2 ай бұрын
Tbh or trae changes how he plans. If he became less ball dominant and would run around the court it could work but i do think its time to trade him which might be best for him anyway
@masonmiller1152
@masonmiller1152 Ай бұрын
Nope
@1RobertSmith
@1RobertSmith Ай бұрын
There ya go. Trae wants to shoot like Steph but refuses to move without the ball like Steph,, it's the only thing holding Trae and the Hawks. Move without the ball and compromise the defense
@c.h.5510
@c.h.5510 Ай бұрын
If you want the numbers broken down: • they play better defense w/o Trey • theyve won at a higher % without him • Murray scores more • Murray assists improve by +80% • +2 wins without/ -7 with him Its also variables. Was the latter part of the schedule, less difficult. Also, were there any important injuries. Is Trey defense +12 pts bad when he plays .. thats horrible. Either way, you make it work. If Trey goes he needs a good defense to back him up:
@ovp66223
@ovp66223 2 ай бұрын
Trae adds VERY little and never has. When he's hot shooting (usually cold 2x as many games as hot) he's electric....on offense. He's NEVER adding anything on defense, just taking away. He's short, he tends to loaf on D when his offense isn't running hot. Maybe its not his fault, he really shouldn't have been a lottery pick. HE would be best served as a 6th man, instant-offense, on a good, top 8 NBA team. HE shouldn't be a starter or at least not a player that averages more than 20 minutes. Trade Trae for whatever you can get. His trade value will be much lower than some glowing proposals due to that massive contract AND the not-so-secret issue of bottom-of-the-league defensive abilties. The Hawks will have to take back a bad or sizeable contract or two, hopefully just a year or two remaining. If they're smart, they'll find a good backup 3 and D (solid at both) wing not quite living up to he contract. Trade Trae, improve cap situation, improve defesne MIGHTILY and get far more consistent on offense (much less HOT, COLD, COLD, COLD, HOT, COLD, COLD games strung together) without Trae. If the Hawks don't trade Trae, they're mailing it in to be mediocre for years to come. Let some other team find a better fit for his limited skillsets and size limitations.
@masonmiller1152
@masonmiller1152 Ай бұрын
Jealous are we?
@donjuanweems1342
@donjuanweems1342 Ай бұрын
Atlanta Hawks Bench point guard Kobe Bufkin Shooting guard Vit krejci Small forward Jonathan Isaac power Forward Mouhamed Gueye Center James Wiseman
@datboitrues
@datboitrues Ай бұрын
The team is literally 12-12 without Trae Young.
@andrewgiraud8108
@andrewgiraud8108 18 күн бұрын
The farthest Murray has gone in the playoffs were with Trae. Trae took the Hawks the furthest they ever been. The Media hates the Hawks and are trying to run him out Atlanta. If a team trades Trae then they dont deserve to be an NBA team.
@AnthonyFernandez23
@AnthonyFernandez23 2 ай бұрын
Not a hawks fan but I think they should trade away trae in my opinion .
@Realatlantashit
@Realatlantashit Ай бұрын
Trae ain’t going nowhere
@masp809
@masp809 Ай бұрын
Why everyone keep saying to trade Trae to the Spurs? If anything trade Dejounte back to the Spurs.
@FlyWithMe_666
@FlyWithMe_666 2 ай бұрын
Trae x Wemby 🔥
@masonmiller1152
@masonmiller1152 Ай бұрын
Keep dreaming- it aint happening
@donjuanweems1342
@donjuanweems1342 Ай бұрын
Atlanta Hawks players Who Need To Stay Atlanta Hawks 1.Trae Young Dejounte Murray Jalen Johnson Bruno Fernando Kobe Bufkin Seth Lundy Mouhamed Gueye Vit krejci Dylan Windler
@jumpmanshadow2260
@jumpmanshadow2260 Ай бұрын
Maybe instead of splitting the two up. Maybe let dejounte run point and trae would be the sg, or keep them at their respective positions and just let dejounte be the primary ballhandler
@donjuanweems1342
@donjuanweems1342 Ай бұрын
Atlanta Hawks Starting lineup point guard Trae Young shooting guard dejounte Murray small forward Jalen Johnson Power Forward Jalen Duren Center Wendell Carter Jr Atlanta Hawks Balance Defense and Balance Offense
@SSJRome
@SSJRome 2 ай бұрын
Trae is San Antonio bound anyway
@Shawnpimpin601
@Shawnpimpin601 2 ай бұрын
Keep dreaming
@masonmiller1152
@masonmiller1152 Ай бұрын
@@Shawnpimpin601 They all want Trae for their teams but low -level begging the Hawks to make a stupid move and trade him.
@Shawnpimpin601
@Shawnpimpin601 Ай бұрын
@@masonmiller1152 Facts
@krisxchirbas9503
@krisxchirbas9503 2 ай бұрын
Trae young is gonna end up like a dominique wilkins or bernard king where people will talk about how "underrated" and "forgotten" they were when in reality they didnt win because of their shortcomings. Tho in traes defence at least hes clutch. King and wilkins wouldnt make the league nowadays
@kk-sr1wl
@kk-sr1wl 2 ай бұрын
Whoever gets wemby as teammates will be better
@anthonywalthour7851
@anthonywalthour7851 Ай бұрын
In my opinion it’s time for Trae You g to spread his wings somewhere else. It would be best for his career,
@cosmosmidnight9576
@cosmosmidnight9576 2 ай бұрын
Spurs have all the assets to get Trae this summer. Trae, vassel, risacher, sochan and wemby would be playoff bound
@juanr8042
@juanr8042 2 ай бұрын
What assests?
@cosmosmidnight9576
@cosmosmidnight9576 2 ай бұрын
@@juanr8042 keldon Johnson, Malaki banham, two unprotected first round hawks picks, one pick swap with hawks, 10 plus other first rounders, 20 plus second rounders. It’s that simple
@sherijms4
@sherijms4 2 ай бұрын
@@cosmosmidnight9576Spurs have the draft assets but Keldon and Malaki are not gonna get it done. Hawks aren’t getting rid of Trae Young, a top 3 playmaker, if they dont get real talent back. He’s also making like 40M
@juanr8042
@juanr8042 2 ай бұрын
@@cosmosmidnight9576 lol
@cosmosmidnight9576
@cosmosmidnight9576 2 ай бұрын
@@sherijms4 what you don’t realize is it doesn’t matter if keldon and Malaki are gonna get it done or not. The spurs hold the hawks future in the palm of their hands. As of right now, hawks are projected to select 10th overall in the lottery this year. If the hawks don’t do anything this summer that’ll be another lottery pick that goes to San Antonio in 2025, 2026 and 2027. So yes, the spurs have all the leverage in this situation
@sakthithanigai5036
@sakthithanigai5036 Ай бұрын
If I'm Trae I want out at this point. I can't believe that the hawks and media are disrespecting the man who won them their first ECF game in franchise history with Bogdan Bogdanovic as his 2nd best player. Yes he's not great on defense, many guys his size aren't. But you know what he is? A special offensive player who hasn't had a player that's complemented his skillset at all in his entire career. Naw give this man Wemby, see what happens. I guarantee you, the moment you put Trae on the market, close to every team will be calling.
@Tain950
@Tain950 Ай бұрын
I don’t want to see my Spurs give up so much for Trea Young. Send him somewhere else please
@harrismust2851
@harrismust2851 Ай бұрын
Trae is perfect for Spurs where they need a good point guard to support Wemby
@ubadman1
@ubadman1 2 ай бұрын
i think the hawks have been trying to trade trae for a while now but he doesnt have the value they are trying to get from other teams.
@masonmiller1152
@masonmiller1152 Ай бұрын
Why are you guys so jealous of Trae- Its Sad
@lukekylestanley4072
@lukekylestanley4072 2 ай бұрын
I'm from ATL. ATL's ownership doesn't want to "pay for or put together a true contending team." You can't have a 30 year lackluster HISTORY in a city every NBA player loves and has a house in unless it's intentional you don't wan't to payforTwo SUPERSTAR FRANCHISE PLAYERS IN THEIR PRIME that you traded for and surrounded them with HELP. Look at the 30 year legacy. Our deep runs with HOrford back in the day were by accident and we had a great coach in Bud. ATL ownership prefers to trade for mediocre players that demand nothing. And no, Trae was NEVER going to get us to the FINALS. HOw much money we pay 6th man Danny Manning sorry self? How much we pay 6th man Joe Johnson? Waay too much. Look at the history.
@phillipdunwoody7222
@phillipdunwoody7222 Ай бұрын
These talking heads haven't seen 3 whole Hawks game. Trae and DJ play well together. The problem for the Hawks have been the frontline defense and shot making. Trae is doubled and tripled almost every night especially at the end of games. I can't tell you how many open non contested shots I've seen missed. CC refuse to shoot beyond 3 feet and is a liability on offense. For the last couple of weeks these guys have been ballin with the likes of Vit Garrison Bruno and Wesly Matthews. They're playing defense and making shots and thats it. I watch or listen to them whenever they play.
@adryangray8393
@adryangray8393 2 ай бұрын
The Hawks should rebuild trade Trae Young, Dejounte Murray, Wesley Matthews, Bogdan Bogdanovic, Saddiq Bey, Bruno Fernando, Clint Capella to the Lakers for D'Angelo Russell, Gabe Vincent, Jalen Hood-Schifino, Austin Reaves, Max Christie, Maxwell Lewis, Jaxson Hayes, Christian Wood, Colin Castleton
@Numba1produkBobbyP
@Numba1produkBobbyP 2 ай бұрын
Trae took them to the eastern conference finals few years back, disappointing Philadelphia Sixers.
@masonmiller1152
@masonmiller1152 Ай бұрын
Exactly
@donjuanweems1342
@donjuanweems1342 Ай бұрын
Atlanta Hawks Bench point guard Anthony Black Shooting Guard Cam Thomas Small Forward Jonathan Isaac power Forward Jarred Vanderbilt Center Christian Woods
@erwinvarela1309
@erwinvarela1309 2 ай бұрын
It's time to trade Trae young in exchange of a star power forward.
@masonmiller1152
@masonmiller1152 Ай бұрын
It ain't happening- trade DJ Murray
@TheBlackSands
@TheBlackSands 2 ай бұрын
Hell no but him and murray cant be in the same backcourt anymore thats a fact 💯
@1plugdug102
@1plugdug102 Ай бұрын
They need more time to gel
@8wayB
@8wayB 2 ай бұрын
trae young took the hawks to the conference finals just three years ago, he has been and should remain the franchise player. dejounte is a great player too, but when your two best players essentially play the same position it rarely works. the hawks should trade him asap while his value is high for a high quality wing player, think michael porter jr esque. and it seems like the media is really trying to push trae out and i’m not entirely sure why.
@masonmiller1152
@masonmiller1152 Ай бұрын
Exactly- Its pure Jealousy. My theory is that they (media) need the LA Market viewership which is why Trae is always connected to the Lakers. The Lakers are not going deep into the playoffs because LeBron is quickly declining. If Trae is good enough for the Lakers then why not for the Hawks. If the Hawks ownership allows the media to bully them into trading Trae, then I'm done with the Franchise. You don't trade your superstar. Every NBA team competing for a Ship has at least 2 superstars. Sorry, but DJ Murray is not a superstar, yet.
@Tayte25
@Tayte25 Ай бұрын
@@masonmiller1152 I agree 100%. They need to build around Trae
@8wayB
@8wayB 18 күн бұрын
@@masonmiller1152🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾i’m glad there are sane ppl in these comments😅
@8wayB
@8wayB 18 күн бұрын
@@masonmiller1152 he’ll end up at the lakers and suddenly he’ll be rated a top 3 pg it makes me sick😭
@BabaYagaRacing
@BabaYagaRacing 2 ай бұрын
Trae Young to the Orlando Magic! Franz Suggs Trae Paulo Would be killer!
@TheMissiIe
@TheMissiIe 2 ай бұрын
Hawks wouldn't trade trae to a team who they'll play 4 times a year. Trae will go to a West team if he's traded
@MarquisVegan
@MarquisVegan 2 ай бұрын
Nah Trea to the Spurs! Wemby & Trae duo incoming next season and I feel like Spurs will not even have to give up much to get him either. They will finesse the Hawks in that trade deal.
@SunnyDarkoShow
@SunnyDarkoShow 2 ай бұрын
Do it and Atlanta will never make the playoffs again.
@forgetful3360
@forgetful3360 2 ай бұрын
Can Zac Lowe speak without screaming?
@iTuber012
@iTuber012 2 ай бұрын
Atlanta should keep Trae and try to get Brown from Boston. Lakers are better without LeBron but they won't bring that up... LeBron needs to get off the ball just like Luka
@adrianfavella3096
@adrianfavella3096 2 ай бұрын
Bring Trae on to the Spurs please for he can feed Wemby 🙏🏼
@amarachidesi
@amarachidesi Ай бұрын
One of them got to go
@masp809
@masp809 Ай бұрын
Keep Young. Trade Murray
@johnmichaelperez2289
@johnmichaelperez2289 2 ай бұрын
Trae Young to Miami.
@codra9998
@codra9998 2 ай бұрын
I think dejounte murray is overrated as hell! Trading trae young is the dumbest thing you could do!
@johnd8368
@johnd8368 2 ай бұрын
Murray couldn’t do anything with spurs by himself. Go ahead and get rid of young idiots. Build around young. The first thing y’all do is trade for a star pg in Murray to go with your already star pg in young. Atlanta failed them. Y’all traded Collins as well. Y’all are injured. Stick it out and keep helping your stars or trade Murray cuz young is better in my eyes. They should be able to sign people next year right?
@TruthSpeaker4
@TruthSpeaker4 Ай бұрын
Trae Young the only player ive ever seen get Crowned because one fluke Playoff Run .. kids not that Good .. takes terrible shots plays 0 defense
@xeniwargaming
@xeniwargaming 2 ай бұрын
Stop I can’t take it… I’m agreeing with Perkins and I don’t like it xD
@donjuanweems1342
@donjuanweems1342 Ай бұрын
Atlanta Hawks Starting lineup point guard Trae Young shooting guard dejounte Murray small forward Makil Bridges power Forward Jalen Johnson Center Mouhamed Gueye are Christian koloko Atlanta Hawks picks up Power Forward/ Center Christian koloko from free agency Atlanta hawks Need New ownership Need New GM Need New Head Coach Canadians Mark Jackson and Sam cassell Atlanta Hawks Record Next 10Years 60-22 are 55-27 Atlanta Hawks Would be Title Contenders Let's Go Hawks 🏀
@donjuanweems1342
@donjuanweems1342 Ай бұрын
Atlanta Hawks Trade DeAndre Hunter Saddiq Bey Bruno Fernando To Brooklyn Nets For Makil Bridges Cam Thomas Keon Johnson Atlanta Hawks Trade onyeka Okongwu AJ GRIFFIN To Orlando Magic for Small Forward/ power Forward Jonathan Isaac point Guard Anthony Black Atlanta Hawks Trade Clint capela Bogdan bogdanovic To Lakers For Christian Woods Jarred Vanderbilt
@ryang7219
@ryang7219 2 ай бұрын
Keep dem together
@coachdc404
@coachdc404 Ай бұрын
How about get a real center and some legitimate front court help.. this is the dumbest chit ever .. you can tell non of these people really watch the hawks 😅
@Chapa-pa-pa
@Chapa-pa-pa 2 ай бұрын
Hawks hit more game winners without Trae Young.
@Thaofficialsensei
@Thaofficialsensei 2 ай бұрын
The fact that they need em to hit the game winner is cause for y we need Trae
@Young-ep8ik
@Young-ep8ik 2 ай бұрын
The fact they are in position to hit a game winner shows they are playing well
@Thaofficialsensei
@Thaofficialsensei 2 ай бұрын
@@Young-ep8ik no foo it shows that they can't never get a def need your casual
@makeyzambezi459
@makeyzambezi459 2 ай бұрын
Just because they beat celtics twice without ice?
@Young-ep8ik
@Young-ep8ik 2 ай бұрын
@@Thaofficialsensei Hawks were -4 net rtg (120 vs 124) with Trae and +5 without him (117 vs 112). Let me know how a casual would explain it away in terms of game winners.
@donjuanweems1342
@donjuanweems1342 Ай бұрын
Atlanta Hawks Trade DeAndre Hunter Saddiq Bey AJ Griffin To Orlando Magic Jonathan Isaac Anthony Black Wendell Carter Jr Atlanta Hawks Receive 2024 2025 First round draft picks Atlanta Hawks Trade Clint capela Bogdan bogdanovic Onyeka Okongwu To Detroit pistons For power Forward Jalen Duren James Wiseman 2024 2025 2026 First Round draft picks
@Iammricoflly
@Iammricoflly 2 ай бұрын
No d trae
@kk-sr1wl
@kk-sr1wl 2 ай бұрын
Trae or murray needs wemby
@sillygoober553
@sillygoober553 2 ай бұрын
I’d trade Trae Young to the Spurs for a boat load of picks, let Murray run the show in Atlanta and pair up Trae and Victor, those picks could be very helpful to build around a solid Guard in Murray
@masonmiller1152
@masonmiller1152 Ай бұрын
Its not happening- you are going to find a PG in the draft. good luck
@TRENDINGMOB
@TRENDINGMOB 2 ай бұрын
Trade em where high usage no defense players don't like playing wit him he selfish he's a coach killer
@masonmiller1152
@masonmiller1152 Ай бұрын
Jealous?
@TRENDINGMOB
@TRENDINGMOB Ай бұрын
@masonmiller1152 why would I be jealous of him he's not Allstar not on the FIBA team but I know who you jealous of Paolo Banchero
@rondajefferson729
@rondajefferson729 2 ай бұрын
Trade him for Draymond Green!!!
@robcz3926
@robcz3926 2 ай бұрын
it's the little mice trae experiment that should end.
@stanleed.harold5457
@stanleed.harold5457 Ай бұрын
Perkins is hard to follow
@lilstogie
@lilstogie 2 ай бұрын
The spurs. Hawks get their picks back, wemby gets his PG.
@masonmiller1152
@masonmiller1152 Ай бұрын
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂keep dreaming
@lilstogie
@lilstogie Ай бұрын
@@masonmiller1152 I mean my team has wemby and your teams picks. I’m good lol
@wakaflokafamevevo
@wakaflokafamevevo 2 ай бұрын
trust me no one in SA wants trae young lmao
@lukekylestanley4072
@lukekylestanley4072 2 ай бұрын
Trade Trae! Wish him the best, but his time is up!
@masonmiller1152
@masonmiller1152 Ай бұрын
He's better than fat-a$$ Luke. The only reason Luke is a media darling is because he's white. He's a terrible defensive player as well who has never made it passed the 2nd round. Dallas had to get him a super-star PG.
@GuddaMane
@GuddaMane Ай бұрын
The rest of the roster needs help! Lmfaooo it ain’t trae fault .
@kareemblackston2049
@kareemblackston2049 Ай бұрын
Trade trae young please
@YoThatschopalottv
@YoThatschopalottv Ай бұрын
Trade em to the spurs
@diablothegreat5932
@diablothegreat5932 2 ай бұрын
SHAME on YOU. You could say the same thing about Sengun in Houston. We all know Trae is very insecure (downright emasculated) due to his size, you don't need to compare him to a cooler, taller, handsomer, more talented player.
@justtimes9257
@justtimes9257 2 ай бұрын
trade both player & do a proper rebuild
@TheBlackSands
@TheBlackSands 2 ай бұрын
Crazy talk fanboy 😂
@masonmiller1152
@masonmiller1152 Ай бұрын
Excuse me but when do you become on GM? Please tell us how to build a proper team. You too busy on KZbin
@justtimes9257
@justtimes9257 Ай бұрын
@@masonmiller1152 well the Hawks are in the team that is stuck in what is called NBA purgatory is the same situation as the bold except they are a bit of a younger team and I believe we can all agree that they should rebuild and actually give these players that are in their prime and actual opportunity to compete for a championship and instead of wasting their talent on a mediocre team
@BuddahHass2360
@BuddahHass2360 2 ай бұрын
Trae Young is so overrated, Murray is a bigger and better player..plus Murray was in San Antonio already..
@masonmiller1152
@masonmiller1152 Ай бұрын
...and did nothing. Did he take SA to the playoffs? I'll wait.
@phillipdunwoody7222
@phillipdunwoody7222 Ай бұрын
I like DJ, but he's not better than Trae.
@rodneywilliams1300
@rodneywilliams1300 2 ай бұрын
Dude it's been 10 games and they are 2 games above .500 mostly playing teams who are playing all backups. Dejaunte had two whole years running a team in San Antonio and they never made the playoffs.
@unmhking
@unmhking 2 ай бұрын
🧢 beat the Cs twice, Clippers, & Knicks throw Cavs If you want another winning record !
@rodneywilliams1300
@rodneywilliams1300 2 ай бұрын
@@unmhking Knicks had mutiple starters out, so did Cleveland. Clippers been terrible since the All Star Break. We beat Boston twice in the playoffs when it counts last year when we were supposed to get swept. We also lost twice to the Nets, lost to Porland, Pelicans and the Jazz, along with getting blown out by the Lakers and Suns.
@unmhking
@unmhking 2 ай бұрын
@@rodneywilliams1300 and the hawks were pretty trash against all those teams WITH Trae Young lol … and SAS were not built well enough with Murray in the Fn West be FR
@sinistavoicez
@sinistavoicez 2 ай бұрын
Karl Anthony Towns for Trae seems fair
@4ktkaram395
@4ktkaram395 2 ай бұрын
Oh yes, trade their superstar point guard who just turned 25 😂😂😂. I genuinely hope Trae gets out of there. People have no clue how good he really is.
@zay_tiggygaming
@zay_tiggygaming 2 ай бұрын
Man who you telling? For an acl injured guard with ego issues who is older and less accomplished. Crazy
@masonmiller1152
@masonmiller1152 Ай бұрын
@@zay_tiggygaming The media and ppl wanted Trae traded are straight up jealous of him or he's punished their team on the court (e.g. Philly-Knicks)
@zay_tiggygaming
@zay_tiggygaming Ай бұрын
@@masonmiller1152 they just want him on their team. They're mad he's cooking them on the Hawks of all teams and he wants to stay there
@phillipdunwoody7222
@phillipdunwoody7222 Ай бұрын
​@masonmiller1152, you hit that on the head. They also didn't think he'd be as good as he is.
@Paulkotsu
@Paulkotsu 2 ай бұрын
Murray is garbage
@PressureFlipperZ
@PressureFlipperZ 2 ай бұрын
Perk is illiterate A f 😊
@donjuanweems1342
@donjuanweems1342 Ай бұрын
Atlanta Hawks Bench point guard Anthony Black Shooting Guard Kobe Bufkin Small forward Jonathan Isaac power Forward Mouhamed Gueye Center James Wiseman
@aaronshapiro9828
@aaronshapiro9828 2 ай бұрын
That woman is spewing nonsense. "They are 10th in the east"- yeah because of how bad they were before. "Could be schedule" - they just beat Celtics twice and the Clippers. "Got people back from injury" - huh? who they are down Johnson, Okangwu and Bay. They haven't gotten anyone back. They can't play defense with Trae on the floor. They will never improve that. Get rid of him.
@tharcisse7103
@tharcisse7103 2 ай бұрын
🤔 Wemby would change Trae's entire career. Trae's biggest problem is that he adds absolutely nothing on defence and is one of the smallest players in the league. If he landed on the same team as potentially the greatest defensive player ever, that would change everything for him. He would literally just jack up lobs all day, probably get the most assists in NBA history, and end up being called a Top 10 All-Time PG when it's all over. Trae needs Wemby more than Wemby needs him, but that duo would dominate basketball for 15 years. They cancel out each other's weaknesses. Add some big wings to that meal and you're eating every night.
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