Peter Zeihan: COLLAPSE of Globalization, POPULATION, and World Order (w/Brad Carr)

[@GC-jk6zd]

This interviewer,Brad, asked excellent questions and Peter Z is always so interesting and well informed. This was a great interview.

[@BradCarr_]

Thank you for saying so! Peter is always interesting

[@danw5785]

I agree the questions were very pertinent and practical

[@Ifyoucanreadthisgooglebroke]

This interview was a perfect combo of giving just enough prompts to help the interviewee keep moving along in the desired topic areas and being quiet and letting an expert like this go and do their thing. Not suggesting this is some kind of 'the one right way to interview' or anything like that, but a very great way to go with someone like Zeihan.

[@BradCarr_]

thank you for noticing :)

[@fubar1764]

What a wonderful interview! In particular, I liked how Brad was very considerate and saved his last question for after soliciting a plug from Peter. Now that is class!

[@BradCarr_]

@fubar1764, thanks for noticing!

[@ziprun2005]

Awesome interview Brad. I'm a long time Zeihan fan, but I've seen several interviewers come in under-informed and flounder the interview. Thanks for coming in prepared!

[@BradCarr_]

@Agent Abe, thank you for the generous feedback! Preparation is fun for me with great people like Peter

[@DukeofEarl]

@@BradCarr_ If you want to see what not to do, take in the recent Arc Invest interview of Peter. YIKES.

[@tamcheehong]

@@DukeofEarl Absolute clusterf***. At one point Ark was talking about being sovereign individual with solar+Tesla+Bitcoin. There’s more magical thinking than Harry Porter.

[@hlim431]

Says Zeihan the expert kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGeTk5SQpLyhpbM Chinese population will halve by 2050? BUT he SOUNDS so plausible!

[@TheBandit7613]

I dig Peter, he's full of facts. I also like the questions asked and Brad lets the guest SPEAK! Brad is an excellent interviewer.

[@BradCarr_]

@ChrisNVegas, glad you dig it and thanks for the generous compliment :)

[@jamesforbes4996]

I second this. I've been following Peter's work since last year. I enjoy listening to his thoughts and predictions, but I always have questions, especially concerning how the social aspects of our country might affect his predictions. You are asking the questions that many of us are also asking. Excellent interview Brad!

[@levelazn]

as a chinese american, let me explain how the chinese feels about what Zeihan said. Freedom in the western liberal sense. Is freedom without consequence, the freedom to bear arms, freedom to make hate speech and freedom to incite division are not granted freedom in a civilized society. Freedom without consequence is considered chaos in chinese culture. Chaos is akin to how animals live and behave. like the joker said "chaos" is fair. but its not civil. Freedom of speech while important in a multi-religion context, is not important when a society is based on secular laws and order. As an athiest, religon is nothing but systemic useless routines that leads to nowhere. it is of no use to the current chinese condition that places importance on growth and scientific, engineering driven economy. Your values are not chinese values. If you want the chinese to adopt your values of freedom, you have to demosntrate that your values are objectively superior to china. The rampant homelessness, gun crime, division and chaotic political atmopshere in the u.s are the exact kind of environments that the chinese DO NOT wish to emulate. if you wanna protect taiwan and its freedoms. america first needs to demonstrate that the current liberal democracy actually works. as someone whos lived in the states for more than 30 years. I can tell you without any hesitation that america is in decline. There is no way china will adopt your failing system

[@TheBandit7613]

@@levelazn The freedom means freedom to create. That's why China can only copy. The US... Computers, software, cell phones, digital cameras... you get the idea. Don't be free. We don't care.

[@levelazn]

@@TheBandit7613 you ever copy the ability to dance ?

[@WinstonCodesOn]

25:40 "The Americans aren't happy unless they're stressed about something." lol! That was my favorite statement in this interview.

[@BradCarr_]

@Winston, that cracked me up too

[@MrParcho]

Americans are the only people that vigorously defend their right to be exploited.

[@jonrolfson1686]

Outstanding exchange. It is great to see an articulate, thoughtful well-prepared young person intellectually meeting an experienced knowledgeable insightful Gen-X analyst. It gives a septuagenarian some hope that the future might be very nearly as positive as possible, rather than an unending compounding series of worst possible choices.

[@BradCarr_]

@Jon Rolfson, thanks so much! Glad it was a good experience for you

[@poopshoes7579]

@@BradCarr_ did a hell of a job both doing the interview and getting it, would’ve liked you to press him harder on the racial problems in America though

[@manniking233]

Gen Xers were supposed to figure out a way to save us. This guy is the first one I have met that has lived up to that hope. Peter Zeihan is carrying the torch for the new future. We'd better get ready for it.

[@talisikid1618]

@@manniking233 how to save us? Or how to manage through the collapse & the changes that dictates?

[@sasquatchycowboy5585]

@@manniking233 Yeah except his opinions are utterly one dimensional, and rooted it Amaican exeponolisam. But he has put his stake in the ground. If China still stands in May od 2023 he can be dismissed as the quackpot he is.

[@edsteadham4085]

Really nice job Brad. One of the best Zeihan interviews I've seen yet.

[@BradCarr_]

Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it

[@capmartin6753]

What this amazing comment on poor Peter kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4eznKJ9g9aLY5o

[@richardchurchill5181]

When people post such interviews, we know the date they were posted on. But wouldn't it be better to have the date of the interview as well? With so many things happening in quick succession, comments in an interview can easily make little sense within days.

[@BradCarr_]

if you're curious, recorded May 9, 2022

[@heidi22209]

Brad! First time listener.. well done, ya won me over! I'm a fan.

[@joemamma137]

It’s not very difficult to deduce.

[@richardchurchill5181]

@@joemamma137 Yes, it is. While you can often get it to a +/- a month margin, events are more rapid than that, these days, and analysis on one day may not make as much sense a day later or make sense at all a week later. And you can't always deduce even to that two-month range, as many Zeihan videos are not by Zeihan and are in fact edits and extractions posted months to years later. If you post material, you should say when the material was originally presented.

[@joemamma137]

@@richardchurchill5181 well sure, if you’re saying that they should on principle, I can’t argue with that. My point is that it’s not very necessary, to determine approximately when it was put out. At one point, he said that his new book “was about to come out” (or just came out, I forget). That narrows it down to a fairly small window of time.

[@adegio274]

Danke!

[@BradCarr_]

Wow! Thank you

[@BradCarr_]

Excited to share this excellent interview with Peter Zeihan. SUBSCRIBE to help get more great guests on the show.

[@BradCarr_]

@@jahigh1 Thank you! That helps keep the show going :)

[@BradCarr_]

@GEOPOP Please do not repurpose this video. Thank you for asking.

[@PhantomOfManyTopics]

@@BradCarr_ , promise if you hear Jeiter Jeihan say JEE or GEE to refer to XI you will tell him a Chinese dude told him to say SHEE as in girl, not GEE, I told everyone to learn Spanish not Chinese. I claim to be an expert on China, but I misprojouce jasic jords.

[@TheBandit7613]

@@BradCarr_ You're a good interviewer. You ask good questions and don't interrupt the guest. I'm going to subscribe. Thumbs up!

[@hlim431]

Says Zeihan the expert kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGeTk5SQpLyhpbM Chinese population will halve by 2050? BUT he SOUNDS so plausible!

[@cows4us]

Great interview. Good questions. Zeihan is a national treasure. ❤

[@ejws1575]

Seeing linear progress in the west over the past decade and a half is completely insane to my mind - it’s stalled since 2008, asset prices are a function of QE and other liquidity initiatives, it’s dialysis. And the apparent progress prior to the GFC was at least in large part debt based.

[@bperez8656]

But now the result is The growth gets flushed out of by those in control of the money supply (Americans & global elites). When the aristocrats sneeze, the poor catch pneumonia. So this contraction will kill the global poor as we reset the system to match forward

[@stevenoverlord]

That's right. GDP and money printer go BRRRRRRR

[@AntAntL]

I have been speaking with family and friends in Mexico, and I've heard that many companies have setup shop in Mexico from China over the last few years.

[@BradCarr_]

interesting, what industries would benefit from that shift?

[@AntAntL]

@@BradCarr_ Mosy of the information I've been hearing is in the Baja Region, south of California. It looks like mid level manufacturing. I have family members posting on social media that they are now working in manufacturing plants, which they had zero experience in. Also a close friend is in some type of plastic manufacturing. It appears some activity is happening in Mexico.

[@TheBandit7613]

And the US. Some big chip manufacturers have moved back here. (US) Samsung is building a multi-billion dollar plant in Texas right now. Supply chain issues are rearranging where manufacturers are locating.

[@journeyman291]

In 2007 a Chinese company owned by the government tried to buy 50 sq miles of property just south of the Boise Idaho Airport. Their idea was to build an entire self sustainable city with housing, manufacturing, warehouses, everything including all Chinese immigrant labour.

[@joanmavima5423]

@@journeyman291 They attempted that in NY State also, just north of NYC.

[@lucio9281]

one of the best zeihan interviews I've watched, also because of the quality of the quesstions asked

[@BradCarr_]

thank you Lucio

[@stephen_hynes]

Congratulations on a great job. I really like the way you announced and streamed this presentation. Your questions create a well focused guide for Peter to follow and your gentle and yet concise interaction is a pleasure to watch. It is also really nice that you have you microphone well to the side, making you completely visible. Getting it entirely out of the shot would perhaps be even better.

[@BradCarr_]

@Stephen Hynes, thank you for the generous compliment and the thoughtful suggestions

[@dethtrain]

I'm curious what his stance is on the college education industry. Will people still be going to overpriced schools taking on debt and coming out disenfranchised and underemployed? If we have to industrialize, then probably more practical affordable trade schools? Maybe drop 2 years of general education and graduating high school at 15 or 16 and going straight into a trade school?

[@BradCarr_]

@dethtrain, we discussed trades a bit but you might find more satisfying answers in his book. He has an interesting perspective on the value of skills

[@src3360]

There are vocational highschools where students can take classes in the vocation they wish to attain(whilst still in highschool), and move smoothly from highschool into vocational schooling. There's one near me.

[@scurvemond]

Very enlightening interview! I learned a lot. Perhaps I'm wrong, but there's very little coverage or insight into these topics anywhere in the mainstream media, which is not surprising since they do very little well anymore.

[@debravictoria7452]

I heard that Operation Mockingbird has never ended, but haven't checked into it yet. Also, the Smith-Muntz Modernization act was put in place by Obama.

[@jmolofsson]

You are right, of course! (I blame the Internet. ;) Mainstream media is governed by number of views and number of likes. Only very few people are interested in the heavy stuff.)

[@kimber0256]

This interview earned you a follow. Nice work!!

[@BradCarr_]

@Kimber 0, thank you! It's a big help to keep the show going

[@calengr1]

~17:41 logistics by water vs land ; 20:10 green tech ! 23:30 inflation; 24-26 m China ; 28:45 Au industrial metal ...america domiciled ; 29:37 digital currencies 31:40 plumber; 32:55 Spanish lessons; 33:45 3 D system 34:45 - 37:20 stalemate in UKR.... logistics of supplying weapons; 37:20 causes of the RU invasion...how RU demographic collapse precipitated this invasion 38:28 UKR options ...39:11 --41:20 fires in RU industrial locations......40:08 what does RU do next ? nukes may be next as RU is weak and inept 41:20 "inflationary impulse" through 2027 as USA x2 the industrial base; 43:48 USA troops depart Afghan; 46:02 "demographics move/affect events very slowly until it does not ...... 46:30 - 47:14 USA cultural war. ....47:38 social media makes it seem bigger than it actually is...pz compares to 1920-1940 12 year period; ~ 50m economic models;

[@danmosby7980]

Great intervew wow so broad reaching topics. talk about value for money. Thankyou

[@BradCarr_]

@Dan Mosby, thank you for noticing. Peter has so much to offer

[@rudyando]

This is my third Peter Zeihan interview I've listened to today. Love his stuff and will grab his latest book. ...but am I the only one who hears Jon Hamm when Peter is talking?

[@BradCarr_]

@Andrew, that's funny :)

[@joshuap9580]

everyone underestimates the ability of the defender to defend their land against the larger aggressor, when in recent memory at least a determined defender has won, like in Vietnam, Afghanistan. why do people forget these recent lessons? in fact if the defender is zealous in their defense full occupation over the long term is nearly impossible.

[@BradCarr_]

there's an energy to standing with your back to a wall

[@margaretfrazier181]

Having a government to plans to WIN helps.

[@atlantic3695]

Also when Napoleon invaded Spain, the word "guerrilla" hails from that conflict, called the Peninsular War

[@kingofmphs]

Fantastic talk!👍🏼

[@BradCarr_]

Glad you think so!

[@kminrzymski]

As a smartphone salesperson I listened to it with my jaw dropped

[@BradCarr_]

yes, surprised me too!

[@JG-zt3cg]

Hey young man, this was a great interview. You asked all the right questions and even managed to ask several that I myself had for him. Thanks.

[@hernandojimenez5102]

Excellent interview, I'm becoming your fan.

[@BradCarr_]

Glad to hear it!

[@stevenoverlord]

I don't agree with everything this guy is saying but he is a realist and not letting his biases and politically correct presuppositions obstruct his observations on trends. Gonna look at more of his work and subscribe thanks !

[@DanielPriestley]

Really great interview. PZ is always excellent but rarely does he get such a thoughtful host like Brad.

[@BradCarr_]

Thank you, Daniel :)

[@rebeccaaldrich3396]

This guy is a genius! I'm so glad I listened to this interview.

[@rochrich1223]

I think high tech agriculture favoring chemical users over organic is incorrect. Saying it takes 16 passes over a field for organic is only true if you are using tillage for weed control. The electric eye deploying face recognition to identify plants combined with a fricken laser can already take out 200k weed seedlings/acre. You can, say grow corn with clover for N while lasering the other plants. Between the corn and the clover with better soil health, you won't have a serious weed problem. After you harvest the corn, you graze cattle.

[@margaretfrazier181]

So wonderful to hear a great talk with a participant who is ready to answer questions and a host who allows the guest to talk without interrupting but guides easily into new subjects. I enjoyed this throughly.

[@BradCarr_]

glad you enjoyed it

[@seriouslyyoujest1771]

Yes, listening is an art. And when an interviewer let’s their guest talk it adds so much to the conversation.

[@Prodigynetorg]

I was buying this (as a hypothetical) right up to the point where Peter started talking about food production. Extreme weather alone is ending the prospect of industrial, large-scale food production. Add to that the cost of oil and fertilizers (not the price of oil, but the real cost), and soil degradation - large-scale food production has no future. You can't genetically engineer a plant to not need nourishment, and you can't artificially fertilize a plant at a cost that exceeds an average labourer's ability to pay for it.

[@Wyatt333]

Came here for Zeihan left wanting more Carr. Who is this Brad Carr guy? So prepared, so organized, so charismatic. Need more Carr.

[@peredavi]

Excellent interview. Very good interviewer and very good interviewer.

[@BradCarr_]

glad you enjoyed it

[@bonniepoole1095]

Excellent interview Brad Carr asks all the right questions.

[@BradCarr_]

thanks for noticing!

[@RobClaypool]

Fantastic interview! Brad you are an incredible interviewer because you ask greeat thoughtful questions and let your guest answer without interruption. Great stuff!

[@BradCarr_]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@ferchizzle]

Excellent Interview. As the other viewer said, best Zeihan interview, so far. Looking forward to listening to your other interviews.

[@BradCarr_]

@Kane Lee, thank you so much! Is there something you'd like to listen to that I could make? Love learning from people who are interested

[@ferchizzle]

@@BradCarr_ Thank you for writing back! Hmmm … Would love to learn more about if and how manufacturing and production is shifting to the States from a boots on the ground perspective. Who or what entities are on the frontline of making these changes? There’s also been talk of America having the largest number of “next generation” battery startups (see Sila, Factorial, Quantumscape, Natron, & Enovix to name a few). But few are talking about where and how they will acquire the raw materials. So, hearing case studies of what the US is doing to make that happen and what needs to be done to accelerate this process would be interesting.

[@randyturner8466]

Excellent presentation. Thanks

[@BradCarr_]

You are welcome

[@hasanchoudhurymd]

Thanks for your factual analysis and discussions and alerts !

[@BradCarr_]

so glad you enjoyed it all!

[@seriouslyyoujest1771]

Our granddaughter’s school starting in kindergarten was four hours English, four hours Spanish. At 12 she’s fluent in both. And has enrolled in a program to continue through high school.

[@GeoScorpion]

I'm not sure why this is relevant, but I grew up in a mostly Polish town (therefore Catholic, though I'm an Irish Jew) in Western Massachusetts, so I just grew up with English as primary and ("Jo Jestem" not the proper "Ja Jestem") farmer Polish and Puerto Rican Spanish as something you just knew to get along. In High School, we were finally given access to languages and the choices were Spanish, French and Latin. That's it. America's racism, xenophobia, and fear of languages are its Achilles heel.

[@CurtisMoe]

Peter is a new favorite of mine to follow. Hope in Bill Gates??? I am not sure Brad knows the dark truths about ol Billy Boy.

[@BradCarr_]

do tell...

[@praline4157]

‘’Accountability of International NGOs: Human Rights Violations in Healthcare Provision in Developing Countries and the Effectiveness of Current Measures’’ online article. ‘’Gates to a Global Empire…over Seed, Food, Health, Knowledge and The Earth” also online.

[@othmarbrunner9639]

Best thing that can happen let’s shun all large multi national companies which outsource and go back to an artisan local economy Globalization is all about greed and not about cheaper prices for goods Othmar brunner

[@hmacquarrie6500]

Great interviewer who obviously has read Zeihan's books,and covers many issues.

[@BradCarr_]

thank you for noticing

[@BlairSongs]

Great job Brad. Good questions and non biased.

[@BradCarr_]

I appreciate that!

[@SueFerreira75]

Great conversation - thank you, Brad and Peter.

[@BradCarr_]

thank you for noticing!

[@Moseyoninn]

Great job

[@justanotherjoe]

Great interview, thank you. I'll keep an eye out for his new book.

[@BradCarr_]

thank you. there's a link to the book in description if you're interested. The channel will receive a small bounty if you use the link

[@thomsoncarter3121]

Good conversation.

[@BradCarr_]

@Thomson Carter, thank you

[@gmw3083]

An iPhone with no looming upgrade/downgrade cycle? Sounds like the best one ever.

[@BradCarr_]

there's an upside

[@IAmTheEggMan111]

Great interview. You let the expert talk. So good.

[@BradCarr_]

thanks. it was fun!

[@MrRainrunner]

Excellent interview! Thanks!

[@BradCarr_]

Thanks for listening!

[@philipwoodgate9555]

I feel he weights issues in a too concrete way, but overall he is good as new voice on the scene with interesting views.

[@visavou]

i am somehow sad that this channel is not getting enough views. good work though! great conversations!

[@BradCarr_]

Working on it! Thanks for the support

[@davidlombard8561]

Brad, you are asking some great questions!

[@BradCarr_]

@David Lombard, thank you for noticing, it's always exciting to hear from Peter

[@davidlombard8561]

@@BradCarr_ your preparation comes through loud and clear. You have a great career in front of you. Remember that the pen/video is mightier than the sword!

[@davidlombard8561]

@@BradCarr_ I want to make a recommendation in private. Please DM me.

[@BrianFrenchinternet-marketing]

Thoughtful questions.. great job Brad

[@BradCarr_]

Thank you kindly

[@lucaswilliams7280]

I feel like Peter didn't really answer your question about why he expects the US to back out of the role of protecting sea based trade routes, which is a shame since it seems so central to his thesis on globalism ending.

[@BradCarr_]

it is central to his thesis for sure, thanks for noticing

[@lucaswilliams7280]

@@BradCarr_ I haven't read any of his books(just discovered him today), does it feel like he's laid out a more compelling case for why he expects this to happen elsewhere?

[@b1121]

It’s because the US is becoming more insular. As globalization is coming to an end, the US is realizing that we don’t need to spend trillions of dollars to be the policeman of the world to protect the resources that feed the American economy. We can manufacture everything on the North American continent and including being oil independent. So there’s a less of a need to protect sea lanes and trade routes. Anyways, everyone hates the US for being the worlds policeman and the US don’t want to do anymore. It too bad though. Without the US to guarantee world trade, we’ll start to see de-industrialization on a mass scale. Since a lot of countries depends on being an export lead economy to survive. We’ll also see more wars over territory and resources. It’s going to be a very chaotic next few decades.

[@Dave5843-d9m]

Any thoughts on new nuclear from people like Moltex? Their reactor is intrinsically safe so much cheaper to build. It’s fuelled by used “waste” nuclear fuel so fuel costs are tiny. Costs per megawatt are lower than coal. BUT they have to get past the regulatory systems that were built for intrinsically risky plants.

[@joanmavima5423]

Good question. I hope this gets attention.

[@user-vq4mt4zd4e]

great content thanks

[@BradCarr_]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@Rurik8118]

Just so we are clear … 16:17 a ‘combine’ with specific set of tanks ? Do you mean ‘Sprayer’? As a ‘Combine’ is generally used when referring to the end product harvest machine used in the fall…long after the plant requires fertilizer or pesticide for development.

[@victoriameyers5870]

Great podcast. Thank you for posting!

[@BradCarr_]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@khaccanhle1930]

The comprehensive Welfare states were designed in the late 19th century by conservative thinkers for the purpose of empowering an empire. The birth rates, life spans, death rates, and colonial economics were integral parts baked into the structure. These have all changed. I don't think the "holy grail" of liberal ideology which is the welfare state (ironically made by conservative states for imperialistic purposes) is long term sustainable. It can only be supported by massive taxation, inflation and cuts in benefits. Either that, or have the welfare state government go back to turning another state/people into a defacto colony. That which mathematicallly cannot continue, will not continue. When I retire, I assume that the government pension will be completely worthless.

[@July41776DedicatedtoTheProposi]

Evidence? Actually the opposite is true; the superconcentration of weatlh will cause a deeper depression that will never end perhaps for a Millenium.

[@deniseproxima2601]

The welfare state was the outcome from the first industrialisation, because it was much poor worker without rights, without health, without future, and very rich people and because the depression and hunger.

[@July41776DedicatedtoTheProposi]

Boy, social security and medicare are not welfare. Each American pays taxers over a lifetime. They earned it, that was the contract. It is an insurance program. Cbo reports 97 percent of the debt comes from reckless tax cuts, unpaid wars, and the Wall Street bailout of 2008. Every congressional budget office report has shown this for 14 years. Besides welfare ended in 1996 in the usa. And medicare has reduced the growth of medical costs by over 50 percent since 1965. It could be reduce much less if we have universal health. You Ayn Rand weirdos know nothing about economics and a mixed economy. Two times in the last 90 years, the liberals of the Democratic Party have saved capitalism from its self destruction.

[@mostlyguesses8385]

Good interview. My theory is China in 1990 uniquely govt owned most land, had no debt so had $5t external and $10t internal credit lines, and had postMao desperate workers. Unique, now over. ... P.S. China loses 400,000 young dead and 1m halfmaimed to traffic and avoidable injury, thats cut out 30m since 1992, then Child Kidnapping keeps mom or granny out to babysit a decade literally cuts female workforce from 60to 45% assuming all lose 10years out of 40 year career. That Africa 3b are staying backward not replacing China/India is the #1 problem, young poor people can't buy much, no African miracle.... I could be wrong...

[@Shadow-1949]

I have zero military experience but from following everything I could get to read about the situation . The one thing that screams at me is troops ! Need more troops ! That’s going to be the challenge. I hope they are training 1 million troops for the end game .

[@smb2265]

Great interview Brad. Thank you

[@BradCarr_]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@ebrelus7687]

Holland has extremely developed planting on water in controlled environment on limited space. Got hit heavily by spiking gas prices... In the same time lots of land is laying around wasting without any cultivation. People think they know but more usually they screw up and natural selection must fix things again naturally...

[@beachbreath2504]

YES!!!!

[@Theineluctable_SOME_CANT]

Great video!

[@BradCarr_]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@JK-rv9tp]

A digital dollar, with the central bank able to create and inject funds directly into the real economy will be a total catastrophe.

[@redcoltken]

Ya think?!!

[@BradCarr_]

how so?

[@JK-rv9tp]

@@BradCarr_ Because currently the CB can only "print" paper cash, and bank reserves. Cash is something like 5-10% of the monetary base; the rest is bank reserves. Bank reserves don't circulate in the economy at all, they just sit as numbers in the CB's reserve account for that bank. QE itself isn't inflationary because it only creates bank reserves to pay the banks for bonds the CB buys, sucking bonds out of the banks and some other institutions, driving up bond prices to suppress interest rates. Currently money is created and circulated in the real economy by the commercial banks issuing loans, tying money creation to economic activity (in theory). The current inflation isn't monetary inflation from CB "money printing" (it can't); it's from the combination of wild borrowing and spending directly into the economy by Treasury, AND supply shocks, (but mostly supply shocks). Anyway, with a CBDC, the central bank gains the ability to create money directly for individuals to spend - money printing in the Weimar sense when most transactions still involved paper currency, but this time electronically. With an irresponsible CB (well duh) this can quickly lead to hyperinflation. On top of that, you now have an avenue for the state to monitor and regulate every financial transaction in the country. An Orwellian wet dream.

[@nonfictionone]

FAR more scary than that is their ability to then switch off your access to the coin of the realm. You went to a protest they didn’t like? Bam, you can’t buy groceries petrol or pay your power bill rent mortgage etc. You are under their control. That’s bad by the way.

[@redakteur3613]

@@JK-rv9tp cool dilettant economic analysis. When you increase money amount without any reason, and when you do by increasing it in Xs it’s going to hurt you badly) Supply shocks can’t be the biggest threat to American economy as it is not so reliant on global spch and as you say treasury spends like an evil ok, why EU still exists, they would be fucked in the light speed, yeah they are fucked by not as fast as FED? It was not the first time and it will be not last

[@badgrampagramps8445]

Wonderful thanx Brad

[@BradCarr_]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@paulalex19]

I would really like to hear more about the concept of demographically “terminal countries”. Saying that certain countries would essentially vanish within 100 years due to demographics is a very implication-dense statement and I would love some additional clarification and discussion on that, as well as the comment on redefining what it means to be part of a certain nation like Canada and Australia.

[@BradCarr_]

yes, "terminal countries" was a topic for our 2018 interview and will probably be into the future too

[@cooldudecs]

Mayans…

[@LRRPFco52]

When the birth rates collapse below replenishment rate, and continue to drop faster without recovery, it's only a matter of time before that demographic fades away. By fading away, this usually means someone else fills in where the prior used to live, provided their territory will support a people with a high birth rate. In Japan, when people get married, they often don't have any living relatives. No parents, no uncles or aunts, no cousins, no siblings, nothing. This is the direction China and Russia are going, while China simultaneously moves to a majority retirement age population 62 and older.

[@paulalex19]

@@LRRPFco52 Ah I see. And it would also take a decades without being disturbed for the populations of these countries to even have a chance to return to previous highs even if birth rates were to sharply increase, right? That also makes the Canada and Australia comments make more sense. If ethnic standards for nationality die out, you must find another way of defining what it means to be a specific nationality if you want it to continue existing.

[@LRRPFco52]

@@paulalex19 Yes. Your chances for reproducing out of demographic collapse get smaller with each generation, especially as you have aging groups who require lots of care, and not enough workers to run the economy and support the elderly simultaneously. This discourages birth rate even more, and they die out with the elderly.

[@courtneyheron1561]

Great conversation. As for ag, yes it‘s already gone / going digital robotic. As for industrial conventional farming, I think that is an industry that will need to shift toward a more ecological regenerative agricultural format to solve several of our future issues.

[@BradCarr_]

how do you see that shift? if at all

[@carylhalfwassen8555]

Lots of eco geek terminology but what do you mean? Do you have experience or education in any form of agriculture?

[@richardbruton5980]

Agree, we have to start working with nature, not against it. People should become educated on the concepts of regenerative ag.

[@matthewchicoine3022]

@@BradCarr_ we will simply have to transition back to a low input, labor intensive diversified livestock form agriculture like existed before the 1960s. As to where that labor will come from, consider the millions of young people currently wasting away in low dignity, zero value added minimum wage jobs in food service and retail. We certainly dont need thousands of mcdonalds and Old Navy’s in strip malls around the country. If you haven’t noticed, the entire midwestern farmland has been dedicated to a corporate corn and soy model based on high capital inputs. That corn and soy is processed into soybean oil and corn syrup (the two culprits most responsible for the 70% population chronic disease rate) and turned into feed for large scale pig and chicken farms (americans eat less beef and far more chicken than they did in 1970). So in a nutshell, get rid of corn and soy, get rid of agrochemical inputs, get young people out of the worthless dead end suburban strip mall jobs and train them to manage small scale diversified agriculture operations, which will heal the body and soul of our nation

[@Jensth]

​​​@@richardbruton5980 But isnt it laughably naive to think that we can do that? The whole of humanity's existence has centered about fighting for ourselves, against the unpredictability of nature. We want systems of order (investors always look for security and predictability) because it benefits us. Nature thrives when it is left alone, untouched by human systems. That means we have to leave resources untapped. Do you see any of that happening? Global population is still increasing. Do you want to be poorer (eg. stop consuming)? Do you think the developing world, India, Indonesia, Africa etc. wants to remain poor? We are harvesting more rainforest than ever before... The only way to change this dynamic, is for humans to stop doing what benefits US! The western world is humanocentric and completely disconnected from nature, and noone REALLY want to reestablish that connection because nature is violent, unpredictable and painful. Modern humans live in an entirely artifical, socially constructed world via phones and screens. I dont see anyone actually wanting to adopt the lifestyle of indigenous people and spiritual integration with nature. To sum it up: We are living our best life right now. Its going to be brutal when the fight for the last remaining resources begin.

[@vincentcleaver1925]

How do you feel about using what we have learned from fracking to generate deep geothermal for electricity and process heat, even mining since we probably have to remove minerals from the working fluid to keep from gunking up the plumbing

[@talisikid1618]

This guy is a mite too optimistic. He’s spot on about crypto. It’s just the fashionable scam of the moment.

[@sylviam6535]

Anyone with two working brain cells would have known from the beginning that crypto had no foundation.

[@michaelfried3123]

Great interview!

[@BradCarr_]

@Michael Fried, thank you :)

[@roxannekeomaka4754]

Peter is a genius

[@BhBraaq]

Good questions!

[@BradCarr_]

Thanks! Any favorite topics?

[@Btn1136]

Nice job man. One of the better Zeihan interviews.

[@BradCarr_]

@Brian N, thank you, it was so fun to speak with Peter

[@_malcolm]

32:55 In Colombia learning spanish right now! Lucky me!

[@BradCarr_]

perfect!

[@MrJmreal6688]

I cannot wait for his 4th book. I crushed the first 3 - so interesting.

[@BradCarr_]

It's a great read. Which of first 3 was you're favorite?

[@MrJmreal6688]

100% the absent superpower

[@philklein]

Curious how/why he skipped over Generation X from Boomers to Millennials at minute 22:30.

[@jacobw6530]

He speaks about large population booms. Calling Baby Boomer the largest generation with Gen Y being their children. Gen X is a smaller generation and their kids (Gen z) are part of that smaller group.

[@KerriEverlasting]

Gen x is always unwanted 😂

[@philklein]

@@jacobw6530 71.6 million vs 65 million isn't really larger because boomer generation ran over 18 years (born 1946-64) and gen x is counted in 14 -15 years (born 1965-79/80). It's selectively misrepresenting the data to say boomers are much larger than gen x. Baby Boomers: Baby boomers were born between 1946 and 1964. They're currently between 57-75 years old (71.6 million in the U.S.) Gen X: Gen X was born between 1965 and 1979/80 and is currently between 41-56 years old (65.2 million people in the U.S.) Gen Y: Gen Y, or Millennials, were born between 1981 and 1994/6. They are currently between 25 and 40 years old (72.1 million in the U.S.)

[@navsofour2892]

Because he talks about everything but misses some things.

[@joanmavima5423]

Gen X smaller cohort, smaller impact.

[@pashaofstuttgart]

excellent. thank you both!

[@BradCarr_]

thank you for watching!

[@unatrader108]

Brilliant gentlemen. To both parties.

[@BradCarr_]

@UnaTrader, thank you very much!

[@bentray1908]

When can we integrate everything on a phone into one system on a chip, 3d print the case and the wiring??

[@SpeedfreakUK]

Buddy if we could “print” complex devices like camera lenses, antennas, microphones, speakers etc then we sure as hell could print the case too.

[@SpiderPriestess]

Don’t forget added costs in the near future for water .

[@BradCarr_]

we'll see

[@4700_Dk]

Love the insight.

[@BradCarr_]

yes, Peter has so many to share. any favorites?

[@attilaann9421]

EV tech sounds great but the reality is slightly different. 1000 pound lithium car batteries are said to require 500,000 pounds of “earth” products, all moved by everything from fossil fueled big equipment all the way to children working the cobalt mines of the Congo. Much of the rare earth components are in conflict areas, and their manufacture/production is neither green nor humane. That said, will average people be able to obtain or even afford EV and if so, what fuel source will be used to charge electric vehicles?

[@____2080_____]

I would challenge Peter and his guest not on the data and substance of his argument but on a more subtle conversation on fighting to save globalization and the cost of that fight that will end up destroying not only globalization but everything along with it. Case in point: something like globalization which essentially was created in the early 20th century and those factors that ended up creating the first world war in at least European history time, we had a philosophy of existence that is fast showing that it couldn’t last 100 years before falling apart. Vison British philosopher Alan Wise said it best in describing our mechanical way of living in the global heartburn whether you’re right, left or center in panicking as everything starts to crash down. Whoever thought of this philosophy of living has shown their gross incompetence and those of us not willing to allow it to flush itself down the toilet in hopes to clinging on to a rotting corpse has shown there gross lack of courage.

[@GeoScorpion]

(1) Peter Zeihan is the guest. Brad Carr is the host. (2) Globalization was created AFTER WWII and so that would be the mid-20th century and not a Pre-WWI, Feudal 'early 20th century'. (3) none of anything you wrote made any sense and is not relevant to any conversation ever. Revise and resubmit.

[@nikkiparksy]

@@GeoScorpion Nope globalisation started around 1845 in Europe. It was renamed colonialism for some reason after the second world war . You have to dig deep too see what has been re worded as time has gone on . Try finding any pre world war two book's that mention it, they will talk about trade and access to raw materials to feed world trade. Then ask yourself why thing's have been changed to mislead. Follow the money.

[@GeoScorpion]

@@nikkiparksy I understand what you're trying to say, but in your sense of the word, globalism then started with Columbus or Marco Polos for the West, or with the adoption of the gold standard. However, globalization means more than just merely state-sponsored companies trading in other nations. It was a shift in countries no longer having to colonize or conquer to secure strategic materials. The creation of the World Bank and the IMF. That said, our disagreement is still debated between scholars to this day, so we may just have to agree to disagree. 🤣

[@nikkiparksy]

@@GeoScorpion True the wording on trade has been also changed in time. Remember Columbus set out to find a new route, to get access too the silk and spice's that the rich l in Europe had grown fond of. As the political situation with the Turk's and Arab's and Mongols effectively shutting down the Silk road at the time. It was a different metric But the start in the 1840's was to go and get more access to the resource's out there, thank;s to the new technology that made that idea possible. As remember it was much harder to do before Steam engine;s for train's and big ship's became available. But no Globalization was pushed by rich people using at 1st the state then corporation's to asset strip the world . Ps you do know that Central banks and the IMF were again a product of rich people corrupting the system they are not for our benifit. But yes Agree too Disagree is fine by me :).

[@jimm3370]

DAMN YOUUUU BRAD CARR!!! Oh man...now I gotta find ANOTHER block of time to get into your freakin' channel! AAaaaa! I'm running out of bandwith! LOL All kidding aside, what a fantastic, thoughtful interview. This is the first one of yours I've seen. If I was Joe Rogan or Lex Friedman I'd be worried.

[@BradCarr_]

@Jim M, I'm glad you enjoyed it :)

[@biffbrude675]

Outstanding 💪👍

[@BradCarr_]

Thank you 🙌

[@carolpierce8420]

6 minutes in: Canada has defined its nationality? How is it defined in this context ? Pls share

[@BradCarr_]

what do you think? Peter has an interesting theory on Alberta province becoming the 51st American state

[@MorningtonCrescent]

It will need to be the 52nd. The UK is pragmatically the 51st, sadly.

[@joanmavima5423]

Canada used to be tri-cultural: English, French, and Native/ First People. They have a large number of immigrants from the Indian subcontinent as well as other regions in East Asia ( Chinese ) and the Middle East. Plus immigrants from South America and the Caribbean.

[@falards]

Thank you for asking about the Dalio video

[@BradCarr_]

thanks for noticing, it was fun for me to bring it up

[@cathygee5733]

Very interesting views. Quite a lot to think about. don;t agree will all his theories but some are spot on.

[@BradCarr_]

he's always interesting!

[@richdiana3663]

We're in human ecological overshoot. Degrowth is the only way forward, or downward if you're being literal.

[@BradCarr_]

what does human ecological overshoot mean?

[@HidingFromFate]

@@BradCarr_ Googled this: "Ecological overshoot occurs when human demand exceeds the regenerative capacity of a natural ecosystem." I wasn't familiar with this term, per se. But a couple years ago, I was listening to a guy named Chris Martenson on his youtube channel describing how the economic paradigm we've all long been accustomed to with respect to the goal of yearly economic growth was going to be unsustainable going forward; growing the economy by a few percent or more every year is cumulative and becomes exponential. Meaning the economic growth doesn't reset itself to zero each year, to begin anew. It piles on year after year, to the eventual point where the drain on global resources (oil, water, concrete, topsoil, etc.) to maintain that annual growth becomes unsustainable. And the most alarming aspect is that the exponential nature of it is very deceiving because it looks like you're going along perfectly fine with seemingly enough planetary resources until very suddenly, you aren't anymore. It'll be quite a shock, and there is nothing much you can do about it but adapt to a very different type of life than we've ever known before. At least for those of us within "first world" countries.

[@selassietetevie4966]

@@HidingFromFate your observation is correct, things cannot go on the same forever, and it's possible people will go back to living in smaller communities and different ways of feeding themselves and sustaining life.

[@ellengran6814]

Higher value jobs. I would say it depends on what you value. If your value is money (getting rich), yes. However if you value skills like handcraft or wisdom and independence, most jobs today have little value.

[@BradCarr_]

yes, the significance of craft is crucial

[@khaccanhle1930]

I don't think you understand the meaning he is giving to the word: value. He's not trying to use it in the moral or philosophical sense "What's the most important thing in life?" He's using it as an economist does, "People are willing to pay more to hire s brain surgeon than some who sweeps the floors." This is not a statement of their "ultimate value" as humans. But facts are, most people will pay more to have their life saved than their floors swept.

[@ShadyRonin]

Man also ads are ruining KZbin. Sooo many ads on a single video. It’s like watching cable TV now...

[@Dave5843-d9m]

Tesla Gigafactories run around an AI based quality management system. They can design and test product changes on the fly and slip them into the main production line. It’s incredibly scaleable but limited by battery supply.

[@trevorhare1815]

Hey man, great channel 👍. Please add all your interviews to Spotify. Maybe talk to someone in manufacturing about the reshoring and friendshoring movement in advanced manufacturing! Keep up the good work!

[@BradCarr_]

@Trevor Hare, thank you! The interviews are on Spotify here - open.spotify.com/show/2S9EebK9evnNu1cb1WgO4V

[@AK-hk3hs]

I find it interesting how many "expert's" discuss solar and Ev s as the saviour but never discuss the extraction of minerals and the charging of batteries?etc. EV s need electricity ..yes... Lol. ....a real expert discusses the a b c d e..of a topic....not the just the a c d of said topic.

[@SS-iu1zb]

My husband is in the food supply chain industry and he visits US farms often. He was talking about AI plant recognition couple years ago in the central California area. Very sophisticated set up. Very promising. He also against organic farming, very wasteful and not environmental in fact. It’s really a feel good project for the privileged few.

[@elizmonroe5368]

Great interaction. Awesome interview. Question for next time...how is this going to affect the plane and travel industry, tourism, cruises. Will foreign travel to Europe or Asia be out of reach for most Americans?

[@BradCarr_]

@Eliz Monroe, interesting point the tourism impact could be extreme

[@robohobo7892]

Isn't it already out of reach for most Americans?