SUPER RARE TRAINWRECK LIVERPOOL AMP! AMPS IN THE ZONE #7

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Pete Thorn

Pete Thorn

Күн бұрын

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@tomquayleguitar
@tomquayleguitar 3 жыл бұрын
Man!! Both the tone and your playing are off the charts in this vid, Pete! Unreal!
@PeteThorn
@PeteThorn 2 жыл бұрын
thank you Tom!
@theirritatedirishman5440
@theirritatedirishman5440 Жыл бұрын
I worked with Kenny on/off for about 2 years as a young teen who knew nothing about amps. Right before I left for Luthier school I built 3 head boxes for Kenny. Then we stayed in touch through the years. I worked at the Kramer factory in Neptune,NJ and then BC Rich. All through that time I was the main distributor for what was called “The Fake Books” AKA The Real Book. Dennis Kager from Sundown was a very close friend and years before I was around him and Ken Fischer worked together at Ampeg and had guys like Jesse Oliver to guide them. It was a wonderful time to be in the music business,for sure.
@danerickson1632
@danerickson1632 3 жыл бұрын
RIP Ken Fischer, he made some bad ass amplifiers for guitar no doubt.
@paulcowart3174
@paulcowart3174 3 жыл бұрын
I would rather have one than a Dumble D's are fantastic but these are just great rock amps
@kbkman7742
@kbkman7742 3 жыл бұрын
Ongoing contribution to a lot of people's builds with the trainwreck pages, too. One of the best sources for info on fitting master volumes to vintage amps
@СергейМогутов-ъ4д
@СергейМогутов-ъ4д 3 жыл бұрын
The pioneer of high gain.
@BenEller
@BenEller 3 жыл бұрын
An amp for people who like things that are REEEEEALLY nice!
@narvul
@narvul 3 жыл бұрын
I like REEEEEALLY nice things but can't afford this.
@stringtheoryguitars4952
@stringtheoryguitars4952 3 жыл бұрын
@@narvul I thought you sold your co. for $4 Billion bro...
@krisyoungsteadt9139
@krisyoungsteadt9139 3 жыл бұрын
Nice and mean when you want it!
@narvul
@narvul 3 жыл бұрын
@@krisyoungsteadt9139 depends.......
@luthiervandros
@luthiervandros 3 жыл бұрын
Uncle Ben knows nice.
@Grant_Ferstat
@Grant_Ferstat 3 жыл бұрын
That is so much more exciting to me than the Dumble thing.
@paulcowart3174
@paulcowart3174 3 жыл бұрын
100 percent agree
@nikonmikon8915
@nikonmikon8915 3 жыл бұрын
They're in similar realms. The bloom of a Dumble ODS is a function of being almost on the edge of self oscillating feedback and the Trainwreck is quite similar, they want to feed back and go clean very quickly. I got to play a Mark Kane Trainwreck clone and it was amazing.
@jordandangelo180
@jordandangelo180 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. Always loved the Trainwreck more than the Dumble though I am a Dumble fan as well but if you understand Dumble, you know he did a ton of mods and a lot of his amps are Fender’s that he modded and I never liked the fact he never made a line of amps accessible to the average person but that’s all my opinion. Plus the wooden cab always looked the classiest to me.
@nikonmikon8915
@nikonmikon8915 3 жыл бұрын
@@jordandangelo180 The ODS (his most famous amp line) is not a modded fender... not even close. There are relays and a post gain stage tone stack (in HRM models) and fender has never done anything like this in the pre or post cbs eras.
@jordandangelo180
@jordandangelo180 3 жыл бұрын
@@nikonmikon8915 I’m aware of the ODS is not a modded Fender and I’m also very aware of the HRM mods as well but wasn’t referring to those. But Alexander Dumble started off working for Fender in the 1960’s modding and repairing and building amps. The amp Kenny Wayne Sheppard uses, the Tweedle-de Deluxe, is a Fender that Alexander Dumble gutted and rebuilt but from the outside you would never know it was a Dumble amp. A lot of his amps were built that way. Bonamassa has some too.It says Fender on the outside. Everyone always says every Dumble is different. I wasn’t referring to the ODS and the HRM mods I was referring to all of the amps he worked on and modded for people throughout the years. The ODS and HRM amps are amazing and some of the best ever. I just think the Trainwreck is so basic and pure with barely any knobs and no switches ( this one looks colored in with a pen to mark the knobs ) and it still sounds that good. I don’t think Dumbles could get that glassy and that gnarly with that little. That Trainwreck sounds like the best Vox, Fender and Marshall all in one plus it has it’s own unique tone. But that’s just my opinion. I
@ssilbert
@ssilbert 3 жыл бұрын
John Mark told me about this video last night. I've been playing Trainwreck amps since 1985 and Ken had me do the Trainwreck website. John Mark is getting ready to have me update the site. I will definitely link to this video! Thank you so much for showing how great 'Wreck's can sound! Thank you!!!
@rudiganter5691
@rudiganter5691 3 жыл бұрын
I'm in total awe Pete, this is arguably the best Amp demo I have ever listened to on YT. Just outstanding playing, talk through, Amp & Cab. Thanks heaps for doing this.
@unklefester1980
@unklefester1980 3 жыл бұрын
Glen Kuykendall .check it out. Dude had an opportunity to dive in a long time ago. He uses TWs with the Early GreenBacks and takes it clean to mean with just the guitar alone. I think his Express uses 6v6's... Just Killer
@srubel59
@srubel59 3 жыл бұрын
The first amp I built was a TW express clone. The ability to hold a note and have it bloom into harmonics "at will", makes your amp as much of an instrument as your guitar. They pair fabulously.! Great designs from Ken and he and was a true amp whisperer. Looks like you were having a real blast making this video. Your In The Zone series videos are teaching and inspiring a whole next generation Pete. Just outstanding work! The Amp Garage has a dedicated TW discussion forum recognized as the internets definitive information dump.
@PeteThorn
@PeteThorn 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott!
@johnheath970
@johnheath970 3 жыл бұрын
It sounded sometimes like it was dangerously close to uncontrollable feedback
@southboundsuarez9832
@southboundsuarez9832 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnheath970 I think that the beauty of these amps is just how controllable and resonant the feedback is on these things. It's always of a pleasant even order nature that blooms in the key that you are playing. If you strike a chord it is always the string that the root note of that chord that will oscillate within that feedback envelope. Not what I would call that uncontrolled like that sharp icepick in the ear and into the brain, squeeky, cheesey whistling feedback. The kind of feedback with wayyyy too much preamp gain. The kind of uncontrolled like ya get when you where a kid with your solid state Peavey Bandit type of gain. Some of today's super high gain tube amps have that same way too much usable l front end gain structure. Like each stage is just too much gain. Ken Fischer seems to have evened out the amounts of gain between each section with maybe the same or a little less total gain but spread across each stage and evened out better. I think with some of these super high gain amps do so very well to in fact do some amount of tube rolling to get it just right. At worst case even substitution of a 12ax7 here and there with a lessor gain similar tube such as a 7075 or 5701 variants of the 12AX7. Even a 12AU7 (however it will likely suck some tone with it's different capacitance on the plate). Kens Amps were just incredibly balanced between each stage and also very meticulously wired well thought out to keeping away any gremlins such as ultrasonic oscillations or other interrelated crosstalk, noise, hum or ground loops. He did this strictly by placement and how he dressed his wiring. No bypass caps, networks or filters but strict placement of components and ultra clean lead dress.
@mikegrisafi541
@mikegrisafi541 3 жыл бұрын
@@GCKelloch Lead dress can most certainly effect the tone and frequency response of the amp, as well as the noise and hum levels. It's an extraordinarily complex interaction that goes on inside an amp where every wire and component is essentially capacitively coupled to every other component in the amp to some degree. You end up with a network of positive and negative signal feedback relationships that aren't inherent to the circuit itself, but can be massively influential to the final tone. When you combine this with how much you can voice an amp through the bias points of the gain stages and careful design of the power supply voltages, it's really not that surprising that such a simple design can be so magical despite lacking the complex EQ filtering other amps may have. Ken must've been utterly fascinated with this and.....seems to have got it right.
@mikegrisafi541
@mikegrisafi541 3 жыл бұрын
@@GCKelloch I guess my point was more so that the effects of lead dress can be quite drastic, based on my own experience. But, no, I wouldnt make any definite claim that it is the cause here.
@jonholland6067
@jonholland6067 3 жыл бұрын
Frig Pete I’m Canadian, high school in Mississauga Ontario in 79/79. Played hangover in many bars with my band, great stuff!
@scottdunn2178
@scottdunn2178 3 жыл бұрын
I'm the guy who got Ken to build "Suzanne" for George Lynch back in '91. George was dumb for parting with it...
@mnmatt1
@mnmatt1 2 жыл бұрын
Please don’t lose your hearing Pete! You’re one of my favorite musicians!
@atxgtr10
@atxgtr10 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best sounding amps I’ve ever heard. So rich and full. I ordered a Rocket just before Ken stopped making amps and my name didn’t make it to the top of list :-(. Ordered it on the phone talking to him. I asked him if anyone in Houston had one (where I was living at the time) that I could maybe go hear. He said yeah, Billy Gibbons. Oh, ok, I’ll just give him a call :). Ken was such a gentleman and cool guy. There was a band out of New Jersey called Novella that Derek Jan (sp?) played in back In the 90’s. I ordered the amp after hearing them play in Dallas at a club. Both guitarists had trainwrecks. Best tone i heard in a rock band at a club ever.
@brianwalton2602
@brianwalton2602 Жыл бұрын
I know Derek (of Novella) quite well. He knows tone and Trainrecks thats for sure, check out his youtube channel if you haven't stumbled across it already: kzbin.info
@TheGuitarRoom
@TheGuitarRoom Жыл бұрын
Hello Rodney, if you came up and talk to me after the show, I think I remember who you were. I’m so sorry that Kenny passed in 2008. He certainly would have made you one get in touch with me privately and I will have JM make you one. I’ll ask him as a favor to bypass the list. He knows how to make them just like Kenny. We were all friends since 1979. In fact I could even have him copy my head directly. Kenny made less than five Rockets and his favorite hands-down was the one that he gave me. Amanda. I’m pretty easy to track down on the Internet. Find me through the guitar room in Duluth Georgia or personally. Derek Ferwerda. Jonathan played out of my Liverpool. I used the rocket. Those were the two lamps that you saw when we played there. I left my express at home. At one point I own 5 Trainwrecks. After having the rocket, I really didn’t touch the other ones. It sounds better today. God bless you and hooe to hear from you soon.
@rickya3877
@rickya3877 3 жыл бұрын
Ken was the man...that sustain and feedback...and sometimes we WANT hear the hiss in the room!
@mattnagy2565
@mattnagy2565 3 жыл бұрын
I could smell the valves smoking from here ... nothing replicates playing in a room with a cab pushing sound pressure. For me, that brings creativity which varies every single time I crank it. No presets do that 👍
@ChuckChrome
@ChuckChrome 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, you look like you are having an absolute blast. I know this was a demo on the Trainwreck but you just gave a master class on how to play the amp. Good stuff!
@markhammer643
@markhammer643 3 жыл бұрын
A buddy who has teched for quite a few high-profile artists and travelled around the world with them, has had the opportunity to try out many high-end and desirable amps in that job context. The last time we got together, he told me that he had tried out a Trainwreck in Chicago, and THAT was the one he was saving up for. Don't know if he ever got one, or a clone, but from his perspective and experience, it was the holy grail of amps.
@jahjah67
@jahjah67 3 жыл бұрын
I learned about Trainwreck amps after reading Aspen Pittman's Tube Amp Book and in 1992 I called Ken. We had about an hour long conversation and he was extremely nice and very patient with my questions. He mailed some high quality photos of the Express and Liverpool. I had just had Harry Kolbe modify a 50 watt Marshall to Billy Duffy specs and later decided not to buy a Trainwreck-I've always regretted it. During our conversation he told me Lynch recorded with one but it wasn't publicized at the time. The sounds you got from this are absolutely magical. Thanks so much for the post, Pete.
@scottdunn2178
@scottdunn2178 3 жыл бұрын
I'm the guy who got Ken to build "Suzanne" for George back in '91 (I used to live right down the street from Lynch in Phoenix), and I remember Ken was hesitant about building an Express for George because he said he wanted to run a Boss DS-1 in front of it !🤣
@fatshartspunhouse2403
@fatshartspunhouse2403 3 жыл бұрын
This is the most fun I have seen Pete have demoing an amp.
@sambochen2010
@sambochen2010 3 жыл бұрын
Holy Shit Pete! Thanks so much for playing Led Zep's "TEN YEARS GONE" as the 1st song to test this amazing amp out. Perfect choice! Lovin' the wicked feedback and harmonics!! Great video Pete! Keep em coming!
@rubievale
@rubievale 3 жыл бұрын
The art of playing a guitar through an amp at volume, exploring the possibilities, reacting to it will be a lost art in time I fear. No plugin, no matter how good it is, can replicate the experience of wrestling with a loud amp. The amp sounds absolutely fantastic, musical and quite unique.
@joeswilkins1
@joeswilkins1 3 жыл бұрын
Man that sound where every note sustains then blooms in to feedback. Gimme that all day.
@hookydoo
@hookydoo 3 жыл бұрын
I have an old copy of a "Guitar for the practicing musician” buyers guide from the 1990s that had Trainwreck amps listed with an msrp of $1200.00. Man I wish I would have known then what I do now.
@PeteThorn
@PeteThorn 3 жыл бұрын
Totally man. I wish I bought one in the early 90s
@scottdunn2178
@scottdunn2178 3 жыл бұрын
I'm the guy who got Ken to build George Lynch's "Suzanne" Express and I remember it was right before the jump to a whopping $1,500 🤣
@nickcebalo2709
@nickcebalo2709 3 жыл бұрын
I hear you! A tube amp shootout from 92 had this, a VHT Ultra Lead and a Soldano Caswell. the TW was $1500. Could have got one then- but hey, it wasn't a Boogie- which was all I was fixated on as a 19 year old. Hot Tub Time Machine anyone?
@nickcebalo2709
@nickcebalo2709 3 жыл бұрын
p.s. John Mark's amps by all accounts are right on the money too for approx $5k
@davidnuzzaci2459
@davidnuzzaci2459 3 жыл бұрын
Pete, do your cheeks hurt from that huge SMILE on your face? "Killer sounds"
@ledjon
@ledjon 3 жыл бұрын
The happiest day of the month is whenever Pete does an "Amps in the Zone" episode!
@johndeschain2156
@johndeschain2156 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ man. What a tone. The chords sounds the best, fuck me, awesome!
@AdamDallas
@AdamDallas 3 жыл бұрын
Those harmonics are insane. I'm not sure I've ever heard that much harmonic content on a clean(ish) type sound. Damn fine engineering, and playing too, as always.
@jayclem2176
@jayclem2176 3 жыл бұрын
Most awesome amp I've ever heard... dynamics, tone, sustain, harmonics. Audio syrup it's so sweet.
@Nocean831
@Nocean831 2 жыл бұрын
HOLY CRAP, Pete that sounded insane!!! You playing through that amp is godly! It’s nowhere near the same, but now I am loving messing with the Fractal models of these Trainwreck amps! Sounds amazing!
@racpa5
@racpa5 3 жыл бұрын
Pete, I had the honor of playing the very last Trainwreck Ken Fisher made. Wow, it even made my playing sound good.
@PeteThorn
@PeteThorn 3 жыл бұрын
That’s cool!
@crumpred805
@crumpred805 3 жыл бұрын
I built an amp based on the Francesca schematic. It is an amazing amp. In honor of Ken I named her Justine.
@krisyoungsteadt9139
@krisyoungsteadt9139 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool. No pedalboard required with Trainwreck amps. I've found the only pedal that works well is a booster but you don't really need one if you have the amp cranked. I built a 5 watt amp based on the Francesca preamp into a Champ power section. At 5 watts it's louder than I want it to be most of the time. It sounds like a Marshall on steroids.
@paulcowart3174
@paulcowart3174 3 жыл бұрын
I just picked up one of those 5 watt Tone King Gremlin heads....loud as all get out Glad it has an attenuator lol 😆
@philipharris2273
@philipharris2273 3 жыл бұрын
Valve rectifier or diodes?
@krisyoungsteadt9139
@krisyoungsteadt9139 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulcowart3174 I get it… I have not heard the Gremlin, but cool it has an attenuator. Easy on the ears is a good thing. ;)
@krisyoungsteadt9139
@krisyoungsteadt9139 3 жыл бұрын
@@philipharris2273 Diodes for the rectifier.
@SeanPierceJohnson
@SeanPierceJohnson 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure lots of us remember Glen Kuykendall's excellent Trainwreck videos! Those helped me fall in love with the Trainwreck sound. I actually emailed JM several years ago and he sent me a very kind reply back. At the time, new Trainwrecks were priced rather reasonably considering their handmade, limited status. I seem to remember a new Express going for +/- $5k...i probably still have the email. Love hearing all the tonal variation this thing gets. I hope one day to have one! The rest of the guitar world can have their Dumbles...give me a Trainwreck all day long!
@johnbarber3499
@johnbarber3499 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You Pete, you really do justice to the Trainwreck , wow this is amazing amp. I have a Retro RR-50, its the best amp I've ever owned, and I can say I've owned at least 20 amps ranging from a 65 Super reverb to a 85 JCM 800 4010 vertical input. Just set the amp up on 10 volume and the mids at noon, and turn the PPIVM at noon, and adjust volume from clean to mean, and all in between, all the harmonics a Plexi can give. Thanks Kevin to a great builder who builds great amps at affordable prices. Its not a Ken Fisher Trainwreck but its not 50K or more, how about $1600 New.
@RedRose4711
@RedRose4711 3 жыл бұрын
That's one of the best crunch tone i've heard. The Tele sounded enormous, but of course all the guitars did.
@noel3422
@noel3422 10 күн бұрын
Sweet note seperation from either sustain and clean and all notes ring out clear, thats the stuff that inspires a guitarist.
@JensenSpeakersVideos
@JensenSpeakersVideos 3 жыл бұрын
Just SO brilliant. To me, the "In The Zone" concept comes to light right here in this video. When the amps cooks, the speakers push some air, the guitar interacts and you're in that magic "controlled harmonic feedback" spot. Awesome tone, incredible playing as always. My Komet K29 gets in the same ballpark, more gainy at lower volume, if you want so. Not "exactly" the same thing of course, but not that far off. Mike Kennedy and Holger Notzel in Komet Amps know exactly what they're doing :) We (Jensen SPeakers) typically voice and test our new speakers with some tried and trusted amps: among others, we often rely on a "blueprinted" 1965 Princeton Reverb, and the K29. Certain details and subtleties that the K29 and the Princeton are capable of highlighting, may go unnoticed with more complex amps. The purity of certain single-channel, almost minimalist designs is so revealing of the true tone!
@stevestarr6395
@stevestarr6395 3 жыл бұрын
Missed and opportunity for Ken Fischer to mod a Marshall for me and regret it. R.I.P. Ken ……….
@andrewwilliamson4064
@andrewwilliamson4064 3 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable! Watching Pete play this amp, priceless!! Thanks so much for sharing.
@ren-shen
@ren-shen 3 жыл бұрын
It was immediately obvious you were really enjoying this. Sounded great and I loved your enthusiasm (and playing of course).
@greacen
@greacen 3 жыл бұрын
This is a treat - there's so much mojo in these amps and your deep dive today gives it the spotlight it deserves.
@rikh78
@rikh78 3 жыл бұрын
that sounds so good, you did a great job of capturing it Pete
@marioagostini8726
@marioagostini8726 Жыл бұрын
Pete your content is really top notch and your musicianship too, subscribed for life!
@buzzedalldrink9131
@buzzedalldrink9131 3 жыл бұрын
I built a trainwreck express clone and a few variations using his preamp design A truly great amp. Pairing this with Ken’s Airbrake attenuator makes it much more usable without losing your hearing. My amp seems to prefer greenbacks, second choice is the 75 watters in the 80s 1960 model cab
@loulavid9933
@loulavid9933 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool. Thank you for that. I had the pleasurer of growing up in the same town as Ken. He was known to me as the guy who fixes amps, until I met him in the early 80's. What a nice guy. He would talk about anything, but when it came to amps, he had no secrets, he would tell you everything about his MOD's or circuits he was working on. (it was all foreran to me). I had friends that only dealt with Ken until his passing. I was wondering if you would ever review/play/compare the new JM built Trainwrecks? I know that Ken had his own way to setup every amp to its owner and no 2 amps were alike, but it would be nice to here if the new ones keep up with Ken's standards.
@jamiemascola6614
@jamiemascola6614 3 жыл бұрын
I was literally singing along when you broke into Hangover, and I just about shit myself when you piped in for the punch line. Great sounding amp. Playing one is on my bucket list. Thanks for making this video. Great playing as always, and cool to see how it just sort of warps your mindset as a player when the amp is just so dynamic. I've got a class A amp that naturally feeds back in a similar fashion. It demands a lot from the player in terms of dynsmics and note control. Great to hear you play through the Trainwreck for these reasons. Please do a video on the AB165 Bassman
@zenosonik
@zenosonik 3 жыл бұрын
I can relate to that symbiotic kind of responsiveness. It's as if the amp nudges you to savor the complexity of the artfully balanced array of spices it has to reward us with if we just take our time with what we feed it. Haha!
@amauriamat3825
@amauriamat3825 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, so great. Imagine this amp with a big hollow body like a Gretsch Falcon. It would make your sternum shake. Amazing amp. Thanks for showing us Pete.
@robertmellaci2142
@robertmellaci2142 2 жыл бұрын
I own a TR Rocket and have had the pleasure of playing Ken’s personal amps. They are glorious!
@MrCarlzohn
@MrCarlzohn 3 жыл бұрын
You did good, dude. It all sounded great, but I just gotta say, the tele into that thing was just sick. Awesome.
@soapboxearth2
@soapboxearth2 10 ай бұрын
Now, this is a guy who really deserves to have one of these amps. Sublime playing, bro!! I hope my upcoming express clone turns out even a fraction as nice as that beauty. Damn
@ArchangelCrusader-he3gg
@ArchangelCrusader-he3gg 9 ай бұрын
Did you buy the schematics?
@soapboxearth2
@soapboxearth2 9 ай бұрын
@ArchangelCrusader-he3gg I found a pdf online. It was 80 page writeup called TrainWreck Express Build Guide 2.0. It has a layout diagram and plenty of notes and details. The ceriatone layout diagram is also helpful
@dylans9405
@dylans9405 3 жыл бұрын
I've got a Z wreck thru a 2x12 cab, celestion gold and a celestion anniversary. Awesome tone any guitar. Pete you rock, per usual.
@randallsandmann2579
@randallsandmann2579 3 жыл бұрын
Pete, you’re one of the very few players that can do that amp justice. Simply amazing.
@PeteThorn
@PeteThorn 3 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks Randall!
@dfoe108
@dfoe108 2 жыл бұрын
This is by far the nicest amp I've ever heard!
@e.l.norton
@e.l.norton 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, man. My old guitar guru, Bernie Brauswetter, had a number of these Trainwrecks that he used live. Really amazing amps. The treasures Bernie had in that basement....it was the motherload.
@hasben5674
@hasben5674 3 жыл бұрын
Good Lord that is lovely. Ironically named amp brand--angelically harmonious as it is.
@noel3422
@noel3422 Жыл бұрын
Omg, tone to the bone, thank you for actually playing and all of it, this is the real deal, thank you. Have to say now I understand the mystic of MR Fishers designs.
@paniccleo
@paniccleo 3 жыл бұрын
Single coils and this guitar is the dream. It does remind me of a vox being slammed with a boost - the best way to run one, in my opinion.
@southboundsuarez9832
@southboundsuarez9832 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice amp! Loved the comment mentioned that said something to the effect like " hey kids you will never experience this type of feel or connection to the speakers" and then said " just kidding" and " well maybe" or "kinda" ..... Whatever it was that I heard ya say Pete! I know that is something that I consider very profound and place very close to my heart and way of thinking... Sure there are many great and super technical prodigy guitar playing up n comers. They have tone oozing from their fingers and skills for days.... They can shred for days and may never feel or have a need for that connection. But they do miss out on that feeling and that extension of tone that we know from plugging straight into a good tube amp and being able to become more at one with the sonic pallets of tonal colour that we know from playing around with our dinosaur gear... Yes, digital and modeling even solidstate gear and effects units all have a place in the arsenal of today's guitar slinger. It doesn't need to be a contest of old tube technology and high tech guitar triggered digital sound.... But to "feel" the goodness of plugging straight on into a good tube amp done right in strictly fully sinusoidal analog goodness is a treat. I like how you can revel in a single note and hold it's sweetness as it blooms instead of having to fill each space with more shred notes. Very articulate.. Let's also note that it doesn't hurt that those are some very premium and ultra nice tubes loaded up within that amp! Even a Telefunken set of lowly EL84s are magic that is beyond just tone but something you need to feel! Throw some Telefunken EC83 preamp tubes for the full monty and you really would have the ultimate Nirvana! Curious to see what would happen in this amp with say a set of JJs???? Thanks Pete for bringing us such a wide variety of approaches to tone and an open mind to both digital and analog solutions to our chase of tonal satisfaction. But you are right, some of the kids are not ever going to experience the pleasure of making tone with this type of tool.
@louderthangod
@louderthangod 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I hate reamping. When tracking guitars you’re playing the amp as much as the guitar and with sensitive amps cranked up that only makes that difference all the more noticeable. How are these different from the Comet and Dr Z in terms of harmonics and dynamics?
@Taldaran
@Taldaran 3 жыл бұрын
I loved what you said about modelers and in ears. When the amp is bringing out the harmonics and you are in front of a great cabinet, the amp sings with you, adding it's own voice to what you are playing that makes you listen and feel more like you are kind of a partnership/duo while you are playing. I also loved the tones in the end...Ty Tabor's "Gretchen" tones to be had there as well.
@jasondowell3623
@jasondowell3623 3 жыл бұрын
The best sounding rock amp I've ever heard... Holy shit.
@oldbluzguy
@oldbluzguy 3 жыл бұрын
This is so cool! I have several Fuchs amps that will sustain for days, but I have never heard an amp feedback on the clean setting. Amazing! And those NOS Telefunken 84's! Oh yeah!
@michaelheinz3954
@michaelheinz3954 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Pete, thanks for the ride, that was pure joy to watch and listen! What a killer amp, I'm blown away. Your playing really does justice to the amp, friggin impressive.
@TheGuitarRoom
@TheGuitarRoom 3 жыл бұрын
Wow wow. Your Express that you feature at 3:53, was mine. Hello Nancy. Ken was my closest friend and mentor. He changed my wife, my playing forever. He had his bigger heart as he did genius talent. He left me with his very first rocket he designed after the prototype. He gave me the one I have because it sounded better. That was his heart. I have had Amanda since 1990. Amanda is the only train wreck amplifier he ever made that has a painting instead of a wood-burning. I will mourn him every day if my life.
@PeteThorn
@PeteThorn 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing story! From all accounts he was a wonderful guy
@Zoso7227
@Zoso7227 2 жыл бұрын
Glad these keep coming up under my recommendations!
@kcampbell4098
@kcampbell4098 3 жыл бұрын
Funny slip when you said this is "That's what you kids with your modelers and in ears are missing"....I belly laughed hard! the Trainwreck you have seems bouncy, wants to be working at its own speed let it sing..pretty voice, articulate, inspires you to play, play me more..... It do seem to let the notes carry on, really reminds me of My orange Rocker 30, I run a variac in the front, faraday caged the pup's and rf clamped the shielded cables to a common ground. NOS tubes 12" Celestion. spot on with really sensitive to the pick attack. I am looking to start production on boutique Hi-Fi guitar amps, go back to the way they did it in the glory days where these jewels are available to all. switchable class /A low watt rugged monsters. Your are so fluid, wringing the gas out of the amp. Your channel is so fun, no BS, to watch and enlighten those of us that don't live in Cali. oB
@PeteThorn
@PeteThorn 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!!
@GazMoz78
@GazMoz78 3 жыл бұрын
Great watch Pete. What a fantastic sounding thing! Always amazed that Joe Bonamassa hasn't gone down the Trainwreck rabbit hole
@ksharpe10
@ksharpe10 Жыл бұрын
He more than likely with his wealth has at least one in his collection. he has Tons of Stuff.
@j.hardie1119
@j.hardie1119 Жыл бұрын
Wow ... Great presentation ! 👍Kenny was a jewel - and had the ears . The look on your face throughout says it all , and the sound your getting was hands down the best I've heard you on the channel . Oh yeah - Thanks for the Max !! 😆From one crazy Canuck to another - Peace ✌🍁😊
@brandnewyou5254
@brandnewyou5254 6 ай бұрын
I love the way you make those amp sound man having that real raw sound I don't think anybody even really understands that anymore Pete
@CC-te5zf
@CC-te5zf 2 жыл бұрын
A great and affordable compromise is the Ceriatone "Expression". It honors Ken's attention to detail in the build and its a harmonic monster. I found a sure enough cabinet maker to make a cab for mine of flame maple. I wish I could post pictures. Anyway, if you want to get something that's real close at around $1200 shipped, check out Ceriatone.
@FLADAN-3848
@FLADAN-3848 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like you had a blast with this one Pete. Not one bad tone.
@TS-so2xi
@TS-so2xi 6 ай бұрын
That thing sounds amazing. Your playing doesn't hurt either
@13Hangfire
@13Hangfire 3 жыл бұрын
I've got an old Jim Kelley Line Amp that does that same type of power tube over drive... which is a lot different than pre-amp dirt.
@HalJikaKick
@HalJikaKick 7 ай бұрын
I was in a recording studio in Union NJ around 1989 where my friends band was recording. They had one of these in the studio and it sounded incredible!
@GeoffSweet
@GeoffSweet 3 жыл бұрын
That's what you need to do next Pete...try out John's Trainwreck for a comparison.
@david_farmer
@david_farmer 2 жыл бұрын
Everything about that amp has style. The sound, the build, all of it. What a gem! Thanks for the video and to the owner for sharing. I don't have access to anything of the kind, but this made me look at the Trainwreck models in the Ampero 2 Stomp and I've been having a blast with them. I can't claim they're as good as this video, but fun for sure! I can't get any of that feedback interaction, but the tones are still fun.
@marcroy2705
@marcroy2705 3 жыл бұрын
Hangover! From one Canuck to another one. Thanks Pete!
@PeteThorn
@PeteThorn 3 жыл бұрын
🤘
@rexsolomon6325
@rexsolomon6325 2 жыл бұрын
When you make stuff by hand, you understand and actually feel that a part of you is in that thing you are making. No different about these TrainWreck amps. Amazing playing Pete!!!
@mannymejia7972
@mannymejia7972 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic amps, I have a Ceriatone TW Expression, which is a clone of the Express, and it is currently my favorite amp, the tones are amazing Fender/Voxish cleans to JTM 45 crunch to full on JCM 800 tones.
@TonyJDas
@TonyJDas 3 жыл бұрын
That thing is ridiculous 😳 And your playing is correspondingly so, Pete. Wow.
@terrymcnabb5859
@terrymcnabb5859 3 жыл бұрын
That was amazing. What an amp should sound like.
@musicalSFCat
@musicalSFCat 3 жыл бұрын
@9:05: OMGolden tube ultra clean sustain. That was killer. Amazing beautiful sounding high end boutique amp. Great playing, demo as always. Thanks for sharing.
@musicalSFCat
@musicalSFCat 3 жыл бұрын
Oh btw...that was cool as well: @11:30. Been into Max Webster for quite some time. Saw them open for Rush in San Francisco, when I was a young teen. Cheers.
@2158220554
@2158220554 3 жыл бұрын
I am 60 started playing a8 yrs old. my uncle don was my guitar mentor, always used Ampeg amps like the Stones. I had 3 of those old 70s amps and they really sounded like that. Hormonic feedback forever. He found a way to get that loud sound quiet. Sounds the same as those old cranked amps that were too loud!
@Chord_The_Seeker
@Chord_The_Seeker 3 жыл бұрын
As guitarists we often use ambiguous adjectives to describe the tones produced by amps, and other gear, but I think the two adjectives you chose to describe this amp, expressive and dynamic, fit it perfectly.
@thechannelforeverything2170
@thechannelforeverything2170 3 жыл бұрын
That tone with the Gil Yaron and this amplifier is freaking unreal.
@stevegardiner8473
@stevegardiner8473 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful tones and dynamics. Great video and playing Pete.
@timwhite5562
@timwhite5562 2 жыл бұрын
LMAO 😆 The wide-eyed "that's what you kids with all your in ear monitors don't get," was pitch perfect (I swear I'm not trying to pun), I was thinking the very same words
@TheJeffcurran
@TheJeffcurran 3 жыл бұрын
At 8:54 you're not kidding. Totally true. And this is why putting the speaker in an isolation room doesn't work with this amp. What a killer amp. Made my hair stand up. I once had a Bogner Shiva that behaved exactly the same way. That ringing harmonic sustain. The guitar and the speaker cabinet become acoustically coupled. Sounds best with Fenders. My Bogner was the same.
@andrewsrea
@andrewsrea 3 жыл бұрын
You've had a ton of great tones over the years, but this one tops them all IMHO!! Ken new what he was doing. Is the output transformer larger than most Vox AC 30's?
@joeloschiavo1237
@joeloschiavo1237 3 жыл бұрын
Come On Already Damn It ... My Popcorn is getting cold 1 Adam 12 1 Adam 12--- see the man with the Trainwreck Amp🤣
@orryfishburne5326
@orryfishburne5326 3 жыл бұрын
Your playing is top notch like usual. Great demo man! I love how no matter what piece of gear your demoing u always know how to dial it in and pull amazing tones out of it.
@ericwarrington6650
@ericwarrington6650 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Pete...great topic... thanks for driving into this...it's so unique and details have been skewed over the decades...
@OzziePete1
@OzziePete1 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta say, from the demo you're providing here, if I had the $$ to buy an unobtanium-class amp and it came down to a choice of a good Trainwreck vs a Dumble, I'd get the Trainwreck. It's more 'me'. At 12:40 when you upped the Presence you would NOT want to be strumming a Rickenbacker or a Tele switched to the bridge pickup! It would clean take your head off! BTW, thanx for doing this video at volume....I hope your ears settled down soon after the video was done.
@nelsontolsdorf946
@nelsontolsdorf946 Жыл бұрын
the amp is sweet no doubt ,there is something about that Ibanez and Ed's ears sounds amazing with the Liverpool , awesome playing btw!
@farmbikemike8923
@farmbikemike8923 2 жыл бұрын
That amp sounds fantastic!!! It’s got everything!
@magnuslervikmusic
@magnuslervikmusic 3 жыл бұрын
The amp sounds amazing but seriously, Pete, your playing and songs always sounds so damn good!! So I think you can make any amp sound good......so then is it really the amp? ;) Superb video as always. Cheers!
@mightymikeamps9317
@mightymikeamps9317 Жыл бұрын
I built a JTM45/100 clone with NOS Genelex KT66 and BLackburn Plant NOS Mullard 12ax7 and it would do that feedback thing just like that. I built it to the Dickenson Spec, but added a .68uf bypass cap on V2… It was cleaner than my other Marshall type builds but wow what a singer
@Coopersx1
@Coopersx1 3 жыл бұрын
So glad to see you really enjoying that amp. Its a beauty and the tone is incredible. Thanks for the demo. I really love listening to you play those crunchy chords...the overtones in those chords blend so well and are so perfectly balanced! Feedback.....Darn amazing!
@pupwinder
@pupwinder 3 жыл бұрын
Great demo, and what an opportunity to play the real thing. I built an Express clone and have the parts for another and a Rocket. I'm sure nothing quite like the real deal, but really fun to play through. Take care of those ears. Tinnitus sucks.
@CamiloVelandia
@CamiloVelandia 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, Pete!! As amazing as all the tones are, the chimey tones really hit the spot!
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