Petra: Incredibly Advanced Tool Marks Tell a Different Story

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In this video I continue to discuss the ancient Rose City of Petra with its spectacular and massive rock hewn caves carved into red sandstone. These caves are said to have been carved about 2,000 years ago.
The most iconic of them all is the Treasury, which is located at the final twist of the towering walls of the Siq canyon. This stunning structure is almost 40 meters or 130’ high and intricately decorated with Corinthian-styled capitals, friezes, figures and reliefs. Looking at its magnificent exterior, one cannot help but wonder how this incredible facade was created two millennia ago. Fortunately, I located some great close-up photos of the Treasury’s exterior which are very telling. From these photos we are able to get an idea what went into the creation of the façade. We can see clues showing that the structure was possibly reworked on and repurposed in a later period; which might challenge the current narrative and put the claimed creators of Petra into question.
This is my KZbin Channel “Curious Being.” I have many diverse and interesting topics to share, such as Lost Ancient Human Civilizations, Megalithic Sites, and other related fascinating studies. History vs. Mystery revealed! Thank you for watching.

[@laurencemoore8519]

Just discovered your channel, and its one I`m going to binge watch over the next weeks. Back in my prime I worked in construction and we often talked about how the building techniques were very advanced in the pyramids ect (and we aught to know better than desk bound so called "Experts" as we built buildings for a living). One of our group, Mark, a bricklayer or mason, visited Petra for a holiday. when he returned he told us he believed that Petra had been "Machine tooled" in some way in its construction and could not have been made by hand held tools. He asserted that even today we would have to have a damn good crew with state of the art tools to make it. We (ie our work gang of 20) had a discussion about this, and other similar topics, that rolled on for a week. Thing is, this was before you were even born. So yes,,,,,you are on to something. This is one of the best video`s i`ve ever seen and your chanel is as we English say, "Bloody amazing."

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you very much, Laurence. I'm so happy to hear a real expert's feedback. I agree with you that the desk bound archaeologists/ "experts" most of the time have no idea how things can be built. Love your comment! Hope you will enjoy my other videos :-)

[@nelsongarcia9066]

I’m not gonna RT lol

[@laurencemoore8519]

@@CuriousBeingbyTina I am so far. I`m leaving comments on some of them. Great mind candy.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

@@laurencemoore8519 Thank you for sharing your insight with me 🙂

[@marcusgomez3307]

*go to Brien foerster's page to have your eyes opened....Now, Baalbek, Lebbanon- Sacsayhuaman, Peru- The Osirion in Abydos Egypt are all megalithic structures along with Petra. And there's absolutely no way primitive man could've created those structures with copper chisel & stone hammer. Not only are some of the blocks of stone 100+tons, they're to hard according to the MOHS SCALE for copper to cut them in the precision they're in. All the places I mentioned including here in Petra as well as little Petra a few miles away, were all constructed by some sort of lost, high technology. And they were all destroyed by some sort of Cataclysmic event in which i speculate was the deluge of Noah*

[@BrickWilbur2020]

I have watched dozens of Petra videos, this was the first one that showed the up close photos of the apparently "smooth" high up areas! Good job Tina!!

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching Allen :-)

[@andrewruiz7894]

Right, nice to have someone that does the footwork! I wouldn't know where to start myself. Ppl like me are grateful to have someone like Tina. I can learn just by looking and listening

[@johanwise9713]

@@CuriousBeingbyTina What you have sone, is missing at so many other sites. For Example Mr. Kusch has found steel particles with strong magnets in similar markings - in an austrian underground corridor.

[@jamesyeahman1195]

Tina ! Well done - You should seriously be a guest on the Joe Rogan experience

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

@@jamesyeahman1195 Thanks James! I'm really flattered ☺I have a lot more research to do and a long way to go.

[@-mattwood]

You are SO good at finding new and interesting and well thought out points of view that make me see in ways I never even considered. You need to be on an interview circuit, speaking with other content makers in this genre. More people need to hear your points of view, get to know who you are and that you have a channel and that you are an original / logical thinker. Your subs could EASILY be (and SHOULD be) in the hundreds of thousands. I see so many comments here saying the same thing! I always enjoy your videos. All the best.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you very much, Matt! I really appreciate your support :-) I do want my channel to grow - will see what I can do. Thank you for the suggestion!

[@tashuntka]

Agreed 👍🏻 ✨️ ✨️👍🏻

[@MrJento]

What do I think? It’s been over two weeks! Clearly you have been hard at work. There are a lot of channels doing bits on stone work lately. Your piece stands out from theirs based upon presentation, clarity of analysis and logic of conclusion. I think you once said your an architect by training. It shows. I’m into tools. I’m familiar with modern CNC 5-axis systems. But when you visit a tombstone and monument maker you’ll see hand held power tools and conventional hand tools. But no copper chisels. Large flat areas are, as you point out, cut under power with multi toothed surfacing wheels that leave the signature parallel groves. Such groves are impossible to cut with a single point chisel, called a “pick”, by hand because the pick fractures stone radially from the point. Another tool, the “scorp” has a flat blade like a carpenters or cold chisel but small discrete teeth cut into the cutting surface of the blade. These are used in roughing out a part. A “drove” is a scorp with a smooth edge. There are other hand tools used in fine stone work. But none that could reproduce the large flat surfaces covered with parallel lines as you show. Some form of mechanical system had to be used. And such a system speaks of a technology equal to or superior to our own today. That’s simple logic! If you live in Wyoming and you hear hoof beats in the night and find hoof marks all over your yard, do you theorise that it was zebra? No. Obviously it was wild horses! The simplest explanation that fits the evidence is usually right. Good to see you back. It’s worth the wait. Fox out.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you very much Fox. I enjoyed reading your informative and witty comment. Fox style :-) Thank you for waiting - I really appreciate your support.

[@anzacman5]

What also astounds me, if you can accept that high tech cnc type machinery was used by these ancient architects/builders - these structures were machined in situ, not on a flat bed in some vast workshop. They were machined 3d, in the round. There fore these machines were mobile. Actually, I'm of the opinion that these ancient architects/builders were machines, an AI cybernetic race of beings. Prove me wrong.

[@MrJento]

@@anzacman5 Tina showed pictures of modern mine equipment that is mobile but not CNC and does a good job of rough cutting flat surfaces. Even leaves the trademark striated surface. Now the great cathedrals were built in the 14-16th centuries in Europe. Stone masons carved some very intricate sculptures and cut tons of stone by hand. So it’s possible to do. The real issue is the tools available at the time of Petra. No steel. Only copper “they” say. No power tools of any kind. Fixed or portable. If “they” said Petra was made in 1530 no problem. Because Notra Dame was made in France then, much larger, similar materials. Known tools and labor. Petra was just way ahead of its time. As to your assertion of AI. The easy answer is that in a criminal case I have the burden to prove your case. But in a civil assertion you have the prudent of proof. You’d have to convince me, or us as the case may be. Beyond that. Why would any AI entity want to build such. For what gain? If from an ancient advanced civilization why would they? Just look at Petra. It’s a people kind of thing. Adieu. Fox out.

[@anzacman5]

@@MrJento thanks for the feedback.⁸

[@johanwise9713]

Yes... as technician you are right. But sometimes people do the simplest - they "explain" everything according to the common saying of their community 😂

[@beatermax1]

Thank you for another meticulously researched video. I think the unadorned interiors of the Monastery and Treasury also suggest an earlier construction timeline to that which is currently accepted? The minimalistic simplicity of the interiors is in stark contrast to the beautiful but highly ornamented exteriors and to me are reminiscent of the Barabar caves in India. One has to ask the question why would the creators of these monuments lavish so much detail on the exteriors but leave the interiors devoid of any decoration at all? There is a clear continuity of monumental simplicity in the architectural language of many of the most ancient sites around the world, so your premise that these monuments at Petra were reworked by later civilizations is entirely plausible.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you for sharing your insight with me. Yes, most ancient megalithic sites share the same minimalistic style, except for many stone caves and temples in India...

[@angelizawanstall2472]

Makes me wonder how many of the ornate, Hellenistic buildings actually belonged to former civilisations and were simply claimed by the Romans.

[@sharonhearne5014]

IT may be that the intricate parallel wall and ceiling carvings in the inside of the symmetrical interiors was a technique to prevent flaking and separation of weaknesses in the interior stone surfaces of the spaces.

[@YoungerDryas]

Hi again Tina! This is undisputably the best video you have created! Thank you for the up close visual of the unmistakable advanced tool marks of the original creators. This is yet more powerful evidence of a truly ancient technology that was swept away and forgotten 6000 years before being reinhabited and redone. There is also a lot of evidence of a cataclysm from the flooding caused by the sudden release of water from the nearby water source that used to be a massive lake in those mountains. This lake was also engineered and used more than 12,800 years ago and the evidence is scratched all across the facade of not just the Treasury, but also across just about every other ancient carved structure in the nearby vales. This is why it was originally abandoned more than 12,000 years ago. Keep up the good work and I look forward to more! ❤

[@shermanatorosborn9688]

They have no Idea how extensive Petra is and don't want us thinking about that either. I love what you have presented here

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you my friend! I heard that Petra is much bigger than the areas opened to tourists and many places haven't been excavated yet. There seems to be much more to Petra's story.

[@shermanatorosborn9688]

@@CuriousBeingbyTina I love the way you are breaking it down and following the evidence .

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

@@shermanatorosborn9688 Glad to hear that 🙂 Thank you!

[@saadamehdi2848]

Your work on many topics, is definitive. Bless you.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you very much for the support :-)

[@EEVENEEVEN-vb5qy]

Good morning from Montana. Great work!

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Good morning!

[@stevenconte4714]

I'm glad I found your channel. I'm fascinated by the ancient sites the world over, and Petra is mind boggling. To me there's no doubt that ancient people had advanced technology and I feel almost insulted by academia when they tell us (with a straight face) that people with nothing more advanced than bronze tools are responsible for any megalithic structures. The accuracy of their alignments and measurements proves beyond a shadow of a doubt they had advanced lazer technology and with that just use your imagination to to guess what else they had. Thanks again I learn something new from your videos

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Glad to hear that! Thank you very much for the support, Steven. I appreciate it :-)

[@chucknickerson9223]

If you become familiar with the intellectual power of the technically simple tools we know they had, it becomes straight-forward. The amount of labor required is another matter, but anytime someone truly tries experimental archaeology this issue start to resolve as well.

[@kawasakikev8905]

@@chucknickerson9223 i think you need to show some practical demonstration of how you cut uniform grooves into a corner at an angle on a circular column 50 feet above the ground with your intelluctual power and simple tools , i feel you have no experience of stone cutting at all ,

[@chucknickerson9223]

@@kawasakikev8905 Just to be clear, it's not my intellectual power I'm talking about (we'd all still be sheltering under trees). The modern-day equivalent is the folks who can actually design computers and how to build them. Most of us are smart enough to use them but not create them. There's a discipline known as experimental archaeology that actually tries the techniques relayed by aboriginal societies rather than just assuming they're making stuff up.

[@tashuntka]

Brilliant 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 I believe that you have got it correctly figured... Great channel 👍🏻🕺💃👍🏻

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you so much 👍

[@danielcruz8347]

Fascinating...Machining tool mark patterns & their angles of attack make human intellect imagination work overtime... Great presentation..Thank you very much

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you for watching! Hope you will enjoy my other videos too :-)

[@robertrowan9893]

Looking at it from my own time honoured engineering perspective, the nearest equivalent I can compare those uniform lines to are those of a shaper. Imagine a fixed tool with a moving table, reminiscent of a lathe tool. Anyone who had to cut a keyway in the centre of a gear/milling cutter often employed this quite basic machine of yesteryear. But to employ it in 3 dimensions, I can only conceptualise a cam based system, akin to copy-milling - where a cutter(s) faithfully follows a stylus-like needle, and in so doing, achieving a predetermined profile/end goal. Maybe with a scaled down template that was made to suit. Short of that, I'm equally as at a loss as I'm suitably impressed by what I've seen. What must a mate have thought who's actually witnessed it in person?

[@megamond]

Reminiscent of how HDD heads are guided across the disc surface.

[@Mr.Grimsdale]

If it wasn't cured at the time but still supple, then combing it would leave those marks.

[@michaelabraham9177]

As per usual with you this is full of very high quality visual aids, and common sense solutions. When I watch your videos I lament the lack of intellect, and curiosity in lamestream academia. Thank you for another wonderful, and insightful video.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you very much for the support and kind words. Much appreciated ♥

[@GuyMonroeVoice]

I love your work! Thank you for challenging massively corrupted institutions who have replaced science with dogma. You rock! Thank you for your scientific mind, Many Blessings and gratitude for your inquiry! - :-)

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you! I really appreciate your support :-)

[@juliannero2769]

In these troubled times my mind takes a holiday from the present to wonder about the mysteries our past. I couldn't think of a better, more interesting, traveling companion. Thanks CB Tina.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Glad to hear that - thank you Julian. Hope all the chaos can end soon.

[@erickrueger2869]

Your deconstruction of the corinthian pillars and the detailed analysis of the parallel lines of machined surfaces at Petra allows the Hellenisti

[@erickrueger2869]

Allows the Hellenistic dating of the overall structures to unravel. Amazing! Thank you.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you so much for the support, Eric! I'm glad that you like my videos :-)

[@ZiggyDan]

Hi, Tina. I hope the pics I sent helped.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Yes indeed! Thank you very much!

[@meenki347]

You're asking the right questions.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you! Hope you will enjoy my other videos too.

[@meenki347]

On the Dentals. I believe that before the New Stone Age, there was a Wood Age in which the great Ancient Greek Temples were made of wood. Or perhaps, it followed the Neolithic? And wood technologies were far more developed than Modernism imagines. However, I also disposed to entertain an advanced pre-deluvian Civilization. But, it is completely unrelated to my Wood Age hypothesis. Full disclosure: I'm an Advanced Postmodernist.

[@McClarinJ]

I had missed seeing your videos for several months and resolved to go to your channel today. KZbin read my mind, however, and this video was in today's feed. Sharing on my Facebook page.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Welcome back! Thank you for sharing my video :-) I appreciate it!

[@Losman0007]

Very good presentation. Never saw these issues before. Thanks.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Glad it was helpful. Hope you can check out my other videos too :-)

[@gbtriumph3216]

Excellent work once again! Congratulate your wonderful staff! Truly enjoyable presentations every time...THANK YOU, TINA!🤩

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you so much! I appreciate your support :-)

[@iang1]

I think you're right Tina. I've thought the same from when I first found out about Petra. You have a great eye for detail.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you Ian! I'm grateful for your support :-)

[@krakentacos]

Excellent video!!

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Glad you liked it!

[@johnbowman476]

Excellent analysis as per usual. Way better researched than most other ancient technology youtuber's channels.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you John. I really appreciate your support :-)

[@sergeyt2947]

Excellent material.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Glad you enjoyed it :-)

[@askaldsson]

Just found this channel and you got yourself a new subscriber.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Welcome! Thank you for the support. Hope you will check out my other videos 🙂

[@nowar9220]

So sick of mainstream cover-up, obviously machining/advanced tooling marks all over Egypt and other megalithic sites, they just get pushed to the side and left out of the picture, it's great work like this that's the only way to expose the cover up and at least come to terms with these structures not being made by brute force and man power alone.. awesome work!

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you for the support! I appreciate it. I made a series of videos on ancient megalithic sites and prehistory civilization. Hope you will enjoy them as well :-)

[@tabletalk33]

Thanks for making this crucial point. The cover-ups make very good stories in themselves. Surveying the field of academe, one sees cover-ups going on across the spectrum of scholarship. It seems that when critical mass is reached in any academic discipline, it becomes EXTREMELY difficult for new theories to get any traction, even when compelling evidence turns up. The new theories, even if they are credible, tend to be resisted, ignored or ridiculed by the status quo scholars for as long as possible, at least until they retire and/or die. This is so that they can comfortably finish out their careers without having their views seriously challenged, and they don't have to face said ridicule and humiliation for having invested so many years in a body of work now proven to be FALSE.

[@kaidechrailama609]

Im very grateful to you madam for this kind of such a very educational and entertaining video.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

So glad that you enjoy my videos :-)

[@i_grok_u2902]

Your theories are as believable as many that are out there. So much that just doesn't make sense. PS- You're quite lovely and easy to listen to👍👍

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you! 😃 Hope you will enjoy my other videos too.

[@patnor7354]

This is actually brilliant

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you - hope you will enjoy my other videos too!

[@darlolad6967]

great work tina as always

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you! 😊

[@walterulasinksi7031]

Two millennia ago, was already part of the Iron age, meaning 5at they had Iron tools. Chisels, hammers etc. these tombs hav been shown to have been carved from the top down, as there is an example of an unfinished tomb where the top is visible. Foe further information watch NOVA “ Petra City of Stone” it not only covers how these tombs were carved, but how they received water and controlled water from flash floods caused by desert rainstorms.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

The sandstone in Petra is high in quartz and harder than iron. I discussed the material reports of Petra's stone, flash floods and the water system in this new video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaqulnhrjbR1lck Hope you will find it interesting.

[@walterulasinksi7031]

@@CuriousBeingbyTina ifyouchecked our the NOVA program, you will see that a recreation of a Pera doorway was done in sandstone Of the same type in California. While at various points, they did use pneumatic pressure, it was only for the time restriction they were given. They did show how it can e done with Iron chisels and hammers. Due to the world heritage site designation at Petra they could not do it there.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

@@walterulasinksi7031 I watched this and felt it works well as evidence to argue that Petra's caves were not carved by hand tools. 1st of all, the modern masons used softer sandstone if they can carved the stone with iron chisels; because Petra's sandstone is close to a 7 on the Moh's scale, therefore as hard as steel and harder than iron. 2nd, in the film they created short strokes with chisels and used that as comparison to the zoomed-in version of long markings in Petra. The authentic markings in Petra are much longer therefore very difficult to do with chisels. 3rd, almost right after attempting to carve the stone with chisels, the mason said in the film (15 min in the 1 hr 42 min video): "there is no way we can do it by hand", then they changed to power tools to do the real carving work. 4th, the facade made for the film is much smaller in scale than the ones in Petra. 5th, the modern masons sanded down the facade to make it smooth. But actually the Petra's facades are covered with fine, long and parallel markings as I showed in my video.

[@walterulasinksi7031]

@@CuriousBeingbyTina the curious thing, ancient iron, due to the manner in which the initial smelting as a bloom, would have inadvertently contained carbon from the bloomery furnace, so in many parts, they would have been actually of steel, albeit a lower grade than we currently consider for tool use. Such cold chisels would easily surpass the silica hardness that is a residual in all sandstones. Along with the tools, ancient masons could read the grain in the stone much as stone carvers still do today as will be demonstrated in the Restoration of the Cathedral of Notre Dame du Paris.Although that will be in limestone, harder than sandstone as it is basically calcium carbonate under intense pressure, but without most of the impurities that create marble.

[@walterulasinksi7031]

@@CuriousBeingbyTina additionally, since Petra did not its own facilities for making Iron tools, all such products would have been imported. And their tools might have been closer to what we call Damascus steel. Since the architectural style has elements of Greek and Roman, they could have been using greek manufactured chisels, that have recently been recreated and are being used on the restoration of the Parthenon. These chisels seem to hold a much harder edge and do not dull as quickly. That is the thing about ancient masons, to copy various styles, someone must have been to places where the style was common, and they could have acquired the tools and techniques from 5he stonemasons in those places. By the time of Petra, about only 2000 years ago, stonemasonry was quite advanced in techniques so a mason from Petra would nit be having to start at the beginning, but add to their existing knowledge. Stone masonry is one of the oldest trade professions handed down, father to son or apprentice. In such circumstances, a master would rough draft the desired lines and the apprentice would do the bulk of the rough work, with the master doing the detail carving and teaching the techniques in that manner. The size , number of tombs along with the other freestanding parts of Petra and even the theater there carved out into the bedrock, proves the amount of wealth of the city so much so that the greed of the Romans made it a city that needed to be subjugated or destroyed. Which is most likely why no actual human remains have been found. While there may have bern grave robbing, it is also possible that all the human remains were removed in a similar fashion to what the ancient Egyptians did.

[@kawasakikev8905]

another fascinating video Tina , i work with milling machines on steel and aluminium ,i know for a fact a circular cutter will not cut a 90 degree corner and leave uniform cutting marks , you cannot cut uniform grooves in a circular column at an angle and stop at a raised edge as we see on the top of these columns , so that leaves the question , how did they create these structures in the first place , as you state ,they obviously didn't do them with hand chisels . It's strange that mainstream archeologists don't even attempt to explain how they were created or show an example of it actually being done , anyone can say they did it because they could but i want to see a practical demonstration , your chanel rocks . please keep pushing the boundaries of our understanding , eventually someone will realise just how accurate your points are and you'll get the credit you deserve .

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you very much! I really appreciate the support and insight you gave me. I believe the way to understand and study these ancient enigmatic megalithic sites is to have a team of experts with mining, geology, construction, engineering and architecture knowledge to work together. Mainstream archaeologists have been overlooking clues which are obvious to people with real life experience.

[@barttrahan7037]

@@CuriousBeingbyTina exactly what I've been saying. Archaeologists don't have enough experience in building to know what they're looking at

[@nickauclair1477]

I like all theories and you do have some mind opening ideas.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you Nick :-) l'm grateful for your support.

[@nickauclair1477]

@@CuriousBeingbyTina we need a team of your loyal watchers to like comments that are positive and have any input. The comments help greatly. For the algorithm and it's so awesome to get a personalized comment from you. Do more of it and try to ask them questions about what they say. So many people end up here because any explanation to the past is inadequate

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

@@nickauclair1477 Thank you for the tips Nick. I'll try that!

[@The_Captainn]

Glad to find your channel! Fantastic work!

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Glad you enjoy it! Welcome :-) Hope you will enjoy my other videos too!

[@ericpeterson3838]

You are awesome Tina!

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you for the support, Eric!

[@RosssRoyce]

Very good observations! Thanks!

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Glad you liked it! Hope you will enjoy my other videos too :-)

[@cokemachine5510]

good job Tina, your theory is definitely more practical.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Glad you think so :-) Thank you for the support!

[@michaelpether1331]

Good, clear logic - keep spreading your lines of investigation.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you for the support, Michael. Hope you will enjoy my other videos too :-)

[@BrickWilbur2020]

The most beautiful video. 😍

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Oh thank you!

[@midianpoet]

Yeah, exactly this was my first though after watching the video ! All video is absolute best, every second is interesting and full of informations ! She is amazing ! Hi from Czech :)

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

@@midianpoet You flatter me! Thank you so much for the support ☺

[@ThomiX0.0]

Thanks for being back again, I've been waiting for you! The very good close ups, and shown large surfaces made your point stronger then ever. Although I have seen chisel marks from professional masons who were very skilled to make them evenly deep and straight, they didn't do so on this harder stone and never at such large sweeps. The pilar you've showed here is really amazing! Some kind of structural support or mechanical enhancement must have been used, I agree. :-) And that does not need to lay FAR BACK in the past too, as scientists are getting their fingers on the so called 'Flood myths' from all over the world and putting the different reports together. Another remarkable thing is, in your vid there is a step structure on the wall, which is also seen on a huge stone in Peru..and it can't be just a coincidence does it? Till soon, I hope Tina!

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you Thomas! Glad to hear your thoughts on this. I appreciate it! :-) Yes the stepped decoration/ motifs are also present in Peru...

[@redwoodcoast]

@@CuriousBeingbyTina They are also found in ruins in Egypt. They go unnoticed ...until you notice them. My guess is that they represent an original great pyramid that all of the different cultures that colonized Earth had in common... before their language and race was split into many different factions... elsewhere than on Earth.

[@ThomiX0.0]

@@redwoodcoast , do you have any idea where in Egypt you've seen them?

[@AP-iv7tc]

I had just facilitated a Past Life Regression session where the client was a young boy and described the assistance from other Higher beings looking like humans but taller with particular technologies assisting their people. It's amazing to find this utube that matches some of the information.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

This is a fascinating story. Thank you for sharing with me. Did the boy described the technologies these higher beings used?

[@AP-iv7tc]

@@CuriousBeingbyTina he described it as much as he could understand at that time thata those beings used a frequency of sound that could not be heard by the human ear and this was produced as they sang. When the beings left and he was much older, he didn't have a memory of the technology and said that they only had the knowing at that time to provide shelter and homes for their people but made them forget once they left. This didn't bother them that they didn't remember as they said they were grateful for the homes they provided. He also said there were others on the planet that also did the same thing at the time these beings were there. This was a Quantum Healing Hypnosis session with one of my clients that goes into a very deep state.

[@AP-iv7tc]

I also recently heard an amazing physicist Nassim Haraheim speak about sound used with technology can produce gravitational effects

[@benmcreynolds8581]

Honestly, no matter what the answers are, the work, structures and stone work they did in our past is mind boggling amazing. Like how? We have trouble TODAY doing these things

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

I agree.

[@telquad1953]

Well done, Tina.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you :-)

[@randallmason9687]

The ceiling looks incredible! Ancient people were obviously more advanced than originally thought. There is a carving in India that shows a man operating a machine with a wheel/ large gear at the end. That may be they used?

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

That's interesting. A carving of a man operating a machine?

[@randallmason9687]

Praveen Mohan has a excellent KZbin channel! It will take some time to find that one video. A few other people commented about the carving also.

[@tomsamsungandroid5402]

So nice! I know what I will watch today 😀 😀 😀

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Hope you enjoy!

[@tomsamsungandroid5402]

@@CuriousBeingbyTina , awesome like always 😀 I was thinking how long these marks are. Tina, you can check American in Ukraine channel. He is in my city currently 😀

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

@@tomsamsungandroid5402 I'll search for this channel. Thanks Tom!

[@MrRotaryrockets]

-Tina I totally agree with you on the stone cutting marks, who ever built these stone caves was definitely using machine tools..and I'm sure we are not the First Civilization that has advanced enough to machine stone like they did ...someone was here along time ago who had the same skills/ and used machines like we have today

[@jodyguilbeaux8225]

ok, but the ease of carving has a lot to do with the type of tool used and the type of material your carving. example= limestone, is easy to carve and granite is hard to carve.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you! I really appreciate your support :-)

[@jimmybirtles3800]

Really eye opening.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching :-) Hope you will check out my other videos too.

[@markd3250]

Seeing the close-ups of the surfaces reminded me of something very similar in China, the Longyou Caves in Quzhou , China. Giant caverns with walls that clearly show machine marks in long striations just like there at Petra. I read where somebody apparently dated the caves to about 200 B.C. but that doesn't make any sense. You can't date stone. The thing is, with the caves in China there is no record in their history of them, and China has recorded history going back 5,000 years. When they were discovered, they were (and still are) a complete mystery. One thing is clear, and you see this all over the world in various places; there was a very advanced civilization on earth in the far distant past. They knew how to do things that we can't readily duplicate today, and in some cases, _still_ can't duplicate. They knew how to work stone like it was wood, and could do so with astonishing precision. That's almost a signature, which to me points to what would exist in the pre-flood world spoken of in the Bible. They were smarter than us, and lived 10 times longer than us. All of our geniuses, prodigies, etc. are a hint in what we've genetically inherited, even in it's deteriorated state, of what our ancestors were like and capable of. Sadly, the Bible also indicates that every inclination of their heart had turned to violence by the time their world was brought to an end. What we've got today is also a hint of what their last days might have been like, only it was 10 times worse. I really appreciate your approach to things Tina, and your willingness to ask the tough questions and go against the established narrative if necessary.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you for sharing with me. I appreciate it. Glad to know that you enjoy my work :-) I made multiple videos on ancient megalithic sites including Longyou caves and possible timeline & locations of a potential previous advanced civilization - hope you will find them interesting.

[@erikbelloni1502]

Aloha Tina, Evidence are right before our eyes, Petra is another clear example of ancient Civilization capable of incredible achievements, most likely highly advanced in technology that for some reason have vanished but left behind amazing structures (see the great pyramid and the megalithic part of Ollantaytambo) that were lately discovered and inherited by less advanced Civilization. I mean look at the well of Santa Cristina in Sardinia, the well is so precisely made, nothing can fit within the joint of the stone blocks and the nuraghe all around are crudely made, there are so many sites on our planet that speaks (scream?) of a forgotten past hidden to our knowledge. Great job Tina, I really enjoy your video. What do you think about the well of Santa Cristina? I would appreciate to have your opinion since you are details oriented.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you Erik. I really appreciate your support. Thanks for bringing up Santa Cristina to me. I'll see if I can find something on it :-)

[@midianpoet]

Tina, big congrats . Amazing . Thanks for sharing Your Unbeliavable video with theory that change everything. And theory with proofs. This zooming photos ! Its real !

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you very much for the support! So glad that you enjoyed it :-)

[@3m5r56]

Great analysis!

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you! :-)

[@gamehavenstl9485]

If you got advise (a) team(s) on where to dig next to help prove the existence of an advanced civilization before ours, where would you have them go? I think it'd be great if & other influential members in the community came together to help direct efforts.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Hope you will find this video interesting: Lost Megalithic Civilization: Finding Their Remnants? kzbin.info/www/bejne/Znyll5SCf96efJY

[@fredsimmons2793]

I firmly grasp you hand and am making this jump with you, now we have to find evidence of this advanced technology!No doubt its there and your on the right path Tina and going in the right direction! Your brave young Lady, and curiosity didn't kill the cat, it brought it back!🤫

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you Fred! I really appreciate your support and encouragement :-) ❤

[@evalesko4613]

Hi Tina, glad to see you again and watch your excelent research which i agree with definitely ❤ i have not seen the whole video yet, but let me give some notice not to forget. Uniformed and chisel marks are different because those uniformed were made with some machine on a large area...and those hand made chisel marks by sculptors who created some details of the Corinthian column heads for example ... so. It's just my opinion. Thanks a lot for another cool video Tina 💋

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thanks for sharing with me, Eva! I really appreciate and value your opinion ❤ I hope you enjoy the video :-) Have a great weekend!

[@evalesko4613]

@@CuriousBeingbyTina yes, i loved it ...and at the end you asked a question that has been disturbing me at least for years ... all that Greek and Roman architecture uses the inspiration from Petra in the very often used columns... it can't be otherwise and it's really weird. Happy weekend sweetheart✌🙋‍♀️💋

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

@@evalesko4613 So glad that we thought about the same thing! Have a great weekend Eva 😘

[@craigcampbell6690]

That's Incredible.I Luv your int.to detail 😘

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Glad you like it! Thank you for watching :-)

[@paulbussolotta3969]

Mind Blown yet again! Thanks for the amazing info.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching :-)

[@curlyhoogendoorn5884]

Good research ! the true history can not be denied by academical people suporting themselfes to speak for their own stories ;)

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you for the support! Hope you will enjoy my other research videos :-)

[@PaulQ-gw6be]

Ooooo! I have never seen the markings in an image before! Wow! I want to visit in person now! Do the marks continue all the way into the corners?

[@islandmonusvi]

Thank you for another thought provoking presentation. My take…A century or so of effort with advanced machinery prior to the devastating Comet Strike 12.8kya would account for the sophistication of Petra which was then abandoned as a result of environmental necessity. This is not unreasonable based on the archeology and pictorial evidence presented. The real mystery is why has none of the ‘tech’ been discovered at any of these sites? Barren, devoid, lost …forever? Of course, academia has not asked the right questions as they seek to embellish the Classical Orthodoxy. Yet the Great Megalithic Mystery persists. ‘My Kingdom for a megalithic stone cutting tooth…’

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you Jorl. I hope we can find some leftover high-tech pieces somewhere in the future. In most places, anything from over 10,000 years ago would be either buried over 10 m/33' underground or submerged under the sea since the sea level has increased over 60 m / 197'. I think there is evidence of ancient high-tech to be found...

[@BrickWilbur2020]

I agree...on the shores underwater is where we will find the tools.

[@jrbspacecowboy]

The lack of any tooling evidence to me tells how old these ancient sites truly are...lost to time because they are from before our tme

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

@@jrbspacecowboy Agreed

[@nickyost8935]

We may never see the technology that would have been used. If it were built like our current machines? They would have long ago rusted to dust. 1,000 years is a very long time for Iron to last.

[@World-as-i-c-it]

Thank you Tina, as always, very well done. I truly look forward to each new presentation!

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Glad to hear that! Thank you for watching :-)

[@identifyspecies]

Yes, you make an interesting point. Another woman (whose name I can't remember right now) made an interesting video suggesting that there's a lot of flood damage at Petra that puts it's creation at an earlier date than mainstream archaeology credits it with. And talking of water, the whole place is engineered to control and distribute flood water, which I don't think can be attributed to the Greeks and Romans, who had differing methods of utilizing water. I don't know, it's just a thought.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you Ian. Yes Petra has an advanced and complex water system to collect and divert flash floods in the desert. Though I don't think the erosion was mainly caused by floods because many caves are located higher up and out of the flooding zones. I read a few published papers on this subject and they confirm that floods are not the major reason of the heavy erosion at Petra. The culprit was and is something else - I'm going to make a video on it :-)

[@djknight1725]

Very compelling evidence.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you for the support :-)

[@strongqawii510]

I’m going there this August on spiritual pilgrimage. Now I have one more thing to look for when I get there. Thank you for giving me ideas! ✊🏽✊🏽

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

That's awesome! I'm sure you will have an amazing experience. Hope you will find more of these machine-like marks!

[@ocevicheband502]

Tina you have dragged truth closer ....to all interested people's. Gratis ye self, you gorgeous woman. Hypatia .

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you for the support and encouragement! I appreciate it :-)

[@davidnash8586]

Why weren't we taught this stuff in school ? Probably because our teachers and their teachers before them had no idea that such incredibly superior people existed !

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Glad that you like my video :-) I made a few follow-up videos too. Hope you will enjoy them. The Lost Civilization of the Megalithic Sites: Who Built Them and When? kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2W5kI2HqtCKe7c Lost Megalithic Civilization: Where to Find Their Remnants? kzbin.info/www/bejne/Znyll5SCf96efJY 20-15,000 Years Ago When Humans Faced Extinction - the Ending of a Previous Advanced Civilization? kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKSXq3-Bl9Vnf8U

[@albanyreadshalleluyahscrip9946]

Thankyou Tina many blessings to you 🙌⛺🌈🙏

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you for watching! I appreciate your support :-)

[@phillipkennedy508]

I like the way you think Tina 🙏

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you Philip :-)

[@mickeydo23]

Awesome and very researched video. Thank you 🙏

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Glad you enjoyed it! Hope you will like my other videos too :-)

[@ibpositivemostly7437]

Cool video thanks.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Glad you liked it! Hope you can check out my other videos too :-)

[@tommybentley1314]

First to comment ......Woo hoo

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Hi Tommy!

[@tommybentley1314]

@@CuriousBeingbyTina Hi loves watching your video's. I worked in the Mining industry and agree with you about the Cutting Machine marks in some of the buildings and caves.

[@davidcraddock8329]

i agree with you interesting and informative video id like to see it one day

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Glad to hear that. Thank you David. Hope you can check out my other videos too :-)

[@carlrichards5207]

Very well done. Good job.👍

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you! Hope you will like my other videos too :-)

[@jrbspacecowboy]

Loving the content

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Glad to hear that :-) Hope you will like my other videos too!

[@jrbspacecowboy]

@@CuriousBeingbyTina very much!

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

@@jrbspacecowboy Glad to hear that! Thank you 🙂

[@philipcallicoat3801]

An exceptionally well spoken young woman! Also easy on the eyes 🌹... Don't be trippin',Tina... I'm 74 and am comfortable with being a grandfather.😎🌹 You have a wonderful KZbin channel and I don't doubt that you will have many more subscribers...Like me; your adopted grandpa.😇😆

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you for the support, Philip. I really appreciate it! 😇

[@bumsharvest5493]

I think you are correct in saying Petra has been modified by a later culture. I would not doubt Petra is 12,000 years old or pre flood, or whatever cataclysm happened way back then. It seems like a lot of ancient monuments are being questioned as to the validity of their published build dates. No one wants to let the 'cat outta the bag' that us humans get nearly wiped out about once every 12K years. Great video, thank you.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you for sharing with me. I appreciate it. I agree that many ancient monuments could be much older than the claimed time. I made a video on the dating of the Giza complex; hope you will find it interesting - Questioning the Luminescence Dating Result of the Giza Pyramid kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXeldGt6f5qgkJI

[@janvanassen7358]

Whel Tina you are making it difficult for the old tethers and I'm glad about that. Whe , the modern world lost everything, whe have to learn everything where the old world was living whit the most modern tools. You are opening minds of a lot of people and maby some day when will find out of the old world really was so old .

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you for the support, Jan. I really appreciate it. I hope more people will start to see that these ancient sites have a longer and more complex history.

[@janvanassen7358]

@@CuriousBeingbyTina in hope that to Tina , our world today is one world and maby there are more people like you Tina and can come together to pass the maby or perhaps or is it possible and find out what whe looking for .😀

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

@@janvanassen7358 You are one of the people like me 🙂

[@janvanassen7358]

@@CuriousBeingbyTina 😀 thanks Tina , when I was 26 years-old I found the from Erich von Dāniken 2hand and that book turned my live op side down. And from there I bought books because ter wasn't Internet, ten I went to Brazil and found a lot of people with the same interests. And ten there was Internet, every ting changed for the best but it was all old school, today it is so much better to see , to understand and to learn from other people like you Tina 😀 . The story about the great pyramid in Egypt where you told about mining tath turned my world again up said down . You are the new generation whit a new vision and I'm clad to be with witness all the new tings you bring , from Peru til China , I'm truly grateful for tat . Tanks for all te work you do for us 😀

[@rickzabala6020]

I've been to Petra, amazing! Like the pyramids and other such structures around the world the technology much more advanced than stated time period for built. World without end... We are in a constant refinement.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you Rick. I made a series of videos on ancient megalithic sites and prehistory civilization. Hope you will enjoy them as well :-)

[@alexreeve2973]

Interesting that you feature the Pantheon as a comparison. Astonishingly similar doorway to the Petra doorways in style and size.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

I thought so too. Thank you Alex.

[@johanwise9713]

Hello Tina, you are right, Petra is older 👍 There is less erosion, more destruction.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you Johan. Petra does look like it's been through great trauma...

[@johanwise9713]

@@CuriousBeingbyTina Thanks to you for sharing your insights, especially about egypt. We can connect all this destructed or still existing underground cities, dolmen, "temples" with the old stories.

[@natalielambert4378]

Perhaps most of these problems evaporate if we consider these structures were made out of wood and were then petrified. The stone has high quartz content to support this and the tool marks you see are just the result of 'Render' that has calcified. It was applied smooth, then the grooves were made while still wet, then it dried hard and later petrified. The wood idea is not perfect but seem to answer more questions than if it were once stone. If you have a look at 'rendered walls with lines' in google you can see the similarities. I think even if you can find out where modern render fails or it's particulars you might be able to spot them in the walls there at petra. I will look into this.

[@valeriaboe2556]

I agree with you , wood as a base material is more plausible. I follow my intuition and I know there is a lie in the history we have been told, around the planet

[@unabridgedhistory1853]

Tina you are so awesome!

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Oh thank you! Hope you will enjoy my other videos too :-)

[@jhnndrs8832]

Great research! 😃

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thanks! 😃

[@martingilvray06]

I think your analogy about Petra , is completely right and a deep excavation should take place , I would like to add high pressure fluid cutting can produce the same traces incorporated into a rotation cutting head . We are nearly there with this cutting trek to-date.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you for sharing your insight with me, Martin. I appreciate it! :-) Hope you will like my other videos too.

[@wordzfailmebro]

AWESOME thanks Tina. 👽👍

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you! 😊

[@alex-650]

Another excellent Petra video! Thanks! A possible reason why the ornamental sections were hand chiseled is that the "machine tool" was far wider. Thus, it easily could clear out large caves and make flat sweeps like around columns. It would have roughly shaped the ornamental sections as best as possible, but the finishing would need to be done by hand since the machine is too fast and too wide to do the fine detail work.

[@angelizawanstall2472]

This was also my first thought but does not explain the Hellenistic details added solely to the fascade of the treasury building

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you Alex :-) I think if the ancients had machines to excavate these massive caves then they should have had hand-held power tools too, which would have left finer finishing and details :-)

[@patriel1]

I did not know of these fine lines at Petra in the stone works. I think as well that Petra predates Roman and Greek architecture. A lot of what you say makes sense to me. Thanks for this video, there is more to Petra than meets the eye.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you for the support! Hope you can check out my other videos too :-)

[@mikeC8756]

Great job again Tina! Now, when are we going to see you on site and up close at these ancient places for some 1st hand analysis? That would be so awesome to see!

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you Michael! I would love to see the site in person. Will probably find some interesting details!

[@tedwalker1370]

Yes. What you are saying make sense. Just a thought. Where is the material that was taken out of all of these structures ? Where is it ? what was it used for ? Some places in India and China have similar cragged surfaces.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you Ted. We don't know where the excavated out material went... Btw I made a series of videos on ancient megalithic sites and prehistory civilization. Hope you will enjoy them as well :-)

[@tonyfrancesco3701]

And they did it in high heels and backwards I have never seen such a good program about this subject

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thank you. Hope you will enjoy my other videos.

[@jerrybaker5774]

😮 excellent theoretical analysis and presentation!👍🏻 Thank you ❤️!

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Glad you liked it! Thank you Jerry :-) Hope you will enjoy my other videos too!

[@jerrybaker5774]

@@CuriousBeingbyTina very much looking forward to your other videos! Thus far, I am very impressed 👍🏻❤️Jer

[@cspencer3421]

Once again you open my eyes and make me think in different directions about these places. The comparison of Greece to Petra made me think of waterjet stone cutting which would be almost endless near the sea with that technology. Maybe that's why Greece has smooth stone work contrary to Petra where it would be done with metal teeth where water is scarce. Thank you again.

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Glad that you find this video helpful. Thank you for the support. It's possible that ancient Greeks used water when they sawed stone blocks and perhaps lack of water had something to do with the tool marks...Thank you for sharing with me!

[@hhf39p]

Another explanation, paste was placed on the stone to make it soft and workable. The paste was then scraped off leaving those lines.

[@FraDon]

• What do you think happened to all the spoil (the waste rock removed)?

[@kananaskiscountry8191]

i think it would have flowed away with the other debre wind and water

[@zedmoe]

@@kananaskiscountry8191 No, tremendous amounts of rock have been removed, here, and other sites, such as ones in India, with no trace of remaining debris.

[@kananaskiscountry8191]

@@zedmoe like i had said once it is chiseled away it would become dust and either blown away or washed away

[@zedmoe]

@@kananaskiscountry8191 Like I said, tremendous. They didn't use hand chisels

[@kananaskiscountry8191]

@@zedmoe if u can come up with a better solution then be it

[@ElectroKinetic1977]

The size of some of those doorways were made for very tall beings

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

These doorways are truly over-sized.

[@Herculaing]

Tina, I really appreciate your detailed research and logical explanations! Great channel!

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Glad you enjoy it! Thank you for the support :-)

[@kreelaban3420]

Remember transportation in all your thinking. Tailings in crushed or powdered form are impossible to move with prehistoric methods. How many reed basket loads carried on the head or back would it take to build a pyramid ? The tailings could be cast into blocks and easily moved on rollers to their destination. The load and the rollers continually arrive and the rollers then rolled back to continually come again like a prehistoric conveyor. A 20 ton load would require 800 - 50 pound loads. Carried in what ? The rough edges on the blocks could be from chipping caused by the rollers. My thoughts . . .

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Thanks for sharing with me, Kree. I appreciate it :-)

[@titanium4k]

Love Petra!!

[@CuriousBeingbyTina]

Me too :-)