Phil In The Blanks Podcast | COVERT STRATEGIES 01

Gaslighting And The Covert Narcissist Pt2
Dr. Phil continues discussing narcissism and focuses on covert narcissism, which is more subtle than classic narcissism. Narcissists have a false sense of superiority and lack empathy. Covert narcissists have the same traits as classic narcissists but express them in more subtle ways. They manipulate and gaslight their partners, are judgmental, and envious. Dr. Phil emphasizes the importance of setting boundaries and not trying to fix narcissists. The series aims to provide insight and help people manage or protect themselves from narcissistic individuals.

[@schizorap]

Energy vampires 🧛‍♀️

[@tenningale]

How I deal with narcs: #1 don't share personal information (they weaponize all info against you) #2 don't react + don't show emotions (they smugly use this against you to gossip and lie that there's something wrong with you) #3 don't personalize their behavior (it's a function of their disorder, and they will not change) They thrive off gossip, drama, chaos, and the pain of other people, so you can’t share personal information with them. They’re completely untrustworthy. Even if inclined to share something during the good cycles in their behavior, there will become a point where they’ll exploit that information against you. Narcs are emotionally reactive people but shame others for their emotions, so don't show even minor annoyance or anything with them. They expect you to tolerate treatment that they would be deeply offended by. They always think there's something "wrong" with everybody else. No accountability, no ability to self-reflect, no understanding of how their toxic behavior affects others. They will not change.

[@sujatagokhale5764]

That is just a perfect sum up. Thankyou!

[@a1m4thah3d]

"They expect you to tolerate treatment that they would be deeply offended by". Your words couldn't be any more correct. My ex always did things like that to me and I could never understand why. If someone did something that hurt her, she would most certainly do it to me at some point. There is absolutely no changing her...because its everyone else that needs to change!

[@KoolT]

They never apologize they lie and say they didn't do it.

[@windmuser]

And if they ever do apologize it's in away to make you feel bad.

[@cmockingjay7265]

Or they say they didn’t say something they said or mean it the way they said it

[@shawshank6015]

Their favourite form of punishment is The Silent Treatment

[@ladyvirgo9514]

Yes! My husband of 12 years just did the silent treatment for 2 months and then brutally discarded me in May. I wasn't aware of this at the time but he was grooming the secretary at his work. He's now shacked up with her

[@a.y.7738]

Wallowing in pity parties, highly judgmental and highly manipulative, easily offended at the drop of a hat, never satisfied. For 15 years I was played by the emotionally drained covet.

[@iricellyperez2677]

Omgosh you just described the person I'm with now and have been for the past 4yrs. The sad part is that my mother is a covert narc and my oldest child's father whom I lost 16 yrs of my life with was as well. If there was anything I wish to change and am currently working on to change is how I help others because Iwant to help and empathize from knowing what it feels like to be played and toyed with, I know what it's like to lack and struggle. I pray my daughter's find husband's that will cherish them, love them as God does his church and that they bring out the best in one another. ❤️ in Jesus name Amen 🙏

[@SarahRejsa-oi6bq]

It feels so good to leave a toxic work environment!

[@beasaroseco5840]

Amen!

[@michelleperkins9886]

Wow! You got that right, Sister!

[@michelleperkins9886]

Yes, Ma’am! You betcha!

[@rbryanhull]

You're describing the very unsophisticated covert. The ones many of us would have spotted right away. What I experienced was a calculating, self aware covert who manipulated and brainwashed the soul outta me. She wore an amazing mask in public, and turned herself into my perfect partner to get me hooked. People, pay attention to how people handle your most gentle boundaries. That's how you know.

[@jluttjoh]

Yep, frauds

[@lorisaluri7812]

We saw a therapist together for 12 years. We moved out of state but I continued talking to the therapist the next four years on my own. After 16 years of marriage, I filed for divorce and the therapist told me I had been emotionally abused the past 16 years. The divorce was contentious and he tried to bury me in attorney fees. Thank God I had family to help me fight it financially. Finally after 1 1/2 years we settled. I settled for less to get away from him so I could have peace. After much reflection, it was always about him and never about me. Get out if you can.

[@user-jl3ey6hn9u]

I am really sorry for you You are the winner Live your best life❤

[@alouise3557]

"Always about you, never about me." I have said that so many times it makes me ill. And he said the same thing back, because he refused to accept it really WAS all about him.

[@elizabethwallace7495]

Me too! After 20 years I just wanted peace. Didn't ask for his business, houses, nothing...just get the girls through college; pay in proportion to our incomes. I used mediation. When it came time for college tuitions, he refused to pay--4 years of court battles. I won.

[@kimanddanahaagenson5595]

@@elizabethwallace7495 In so many ways, yes you did. Good for you.

[@nicj5354]

I was raised by a covert narcissist. It was hell. I've gone no contact and never been happier.

[@kkeiter]

Me too

[@shawshank6015]

Its our anniversary tomorrow we be married 39yrs. il just say people get less time for murder. Im currently on 2weeks of The Old Silent Treatment (it doesn't take much) this has been the longest because im now learning so much from All these videos that Ive gone Silent. I usually always go to him & ask him to talk Ive finally learnt what im dealing with & that it will never be fixed. Im now looking up ways of getting out. Its not going to be easy I know but I have to now. I turned 60 I know I could Never give another 20 of my life for this. Sorry for the long message. God Bless you All.

[@Angela-ul9si]

Hi I am also in similar situations as you. How is it going for you? Have you found any good solutions that seem to work for you?

[@iricellyperez2677]

God bless you I wish you the best.

[@jluttjoh]

I am sorry. I did it for 7 years. I can't imagine 30

[@elizabethwallace7495]

Jesus! Be strong Shawshank! 39 years of degradation and pain. Do whatever it takes.

[@marciasantelli-jones1557]

Try not to grieve over the years lost but to focus on the blessing of truly seeing the light and getting out. ❤

[@sabianstringer2112]

When You Leave the Judgement to God then the Narcissist becomes DISARMED!!!

[@lisabowden402]

Amen

[@thomashocker2792]

Bullshit. Try that in reality

[@sabianstringer2112]

It is True if You Hold onto Negative Feelings towards a Narc They Win...Life is too short Walk Away and Let them Suffer Alone

[@sabianstringer2112]

Afterall JC Suffered So You Don't Have to Judge Just Askem

[@emmamonroe3311]

They are always a victim of circumstance 🤡👈🏻

[@AtticTapes14]

It's true. Some people have better circumstances than others

[@emmamonroe3311]

@@AtticTapes14 but when it comes to a covert narcissist they are always the victim: it’s a mental illness that will always be there. Just saying. Due to the laws not everyone will know what we know.🤡👈🏻

[@facialsonDemand]

I like how you don't paint the narcissist as someone with low self-esteem like others do. Their fake low self-esteem is another tactic to control others.

[@PJHEATERMAN]

Called a "vulnerable Narcissist " Covert narcs are the worst

[@Minisynapse]

He did speak about insecurity at first, seems to be somewhat equivalent concept to self-esteem. Maybe some do fake low self-esteem, but more likely than that they do have low self-esteem, evident by the need to compare, compete and determine whos on top or better. I'd say they fake humility much more than low self-esteem. The humility is a facade that hides pursuits of "betterness" because they are afraid of being lower than others. There's a consistent need to be evaluated as better in the social realm, and that (the need) speaks for insecurity/low self-esteem.

[@connie7125]

That’s Right

[@gwendolynwehage6336]

If a narcissist accuses us of something we know they are doing it themselves. I have said to narcissists; "you are describing yourself." They take simple things that were meant for good and make them look bad because of their inability to accept that you did a good thing.

[@tenningale]

My covert narc mom's projection is one of the ways I finally identified what's wrong with her. She's money-obsessed and has used men for money her whole life. She accused my fiancee of being a gold-digger - she's never even met her - among other ridiculous lies in a fit of narcissistic anger. They have lots of internal shame, insecurities, and anger. Instead of dealing with it internally they turn around and put it back on you.

[@irenehurtig266]

And they will never ever tell you where they are and what they do.

[@kimanddanahaagenson5595]

But you need to report in often and accurately. 2 sets of rules.

[@tmt8268]

When you mimic their behavior then they mimic you mimicing them. 🎭 They just don't see themselves. They have no goals but want to tell you what to do.

[@93Jubilee]

My sister's 'goal' was simply to have a goal so she would appear to be accomplished.

[@KoolT]

Envious. Not happy for a damn person

[@joannmclean6406]

After 17 years of being married to one, I have decided to enjoy my life doing what I love. He doesn't believe in vacations so I go by myself. He doesn't believe in celebrating holidays or special days, but I do. So I go by myself. It's like you're in the marriage all alone. I'm making lemonade with this lemon. :)

[@shawshank6015]

We will be married 39yrs tomorrow. I've done all that you've explained in your message. I think I'm done now. You can read my message I left in this thread, it bit long sorry. Have a Blessed day

[@sabrasandee543]

I have been alone in a marriage for 23 yrs now. Questioning my choices...

[@elizabethwallace7495]

You said it all in the first few minutes. Married to the guy for 20 years. Beyond belief. Read all the books of how I could "help" him. Didn't want a broken family. Chest pains became severe. Divorced him.

[@dianaverano7878]

When I now see a person who tells the story as a pity party and complain about everything. I move away. That's a narcissist. They are like 5 yr old babies who grew up physically but have tantrums everyday like 5 yrs old.

[@michelleperkins9886]

I started a garden this spring. At every opportunity, my “dear” narc spouse never once stepped up to help. Took every opening to complain about the money I was wasting. Never once realized that all of my efforts were for the benefit of my Family. When I finally had heard it enough, I said, “you complain and judge everything I’m doing, criticize how I am not doing it correctly, yet you take a lot of pleasure in eating what I’ve produced, what I grew and harvested, and prepared for your meal. If I’m doing it so wrong, I’ll not be offended if you go get take out every night for supper.” And then he had the nerve to act so offended, saying I was just trying to help.” Keep it to yourself, buster. I don’t need your advice.

[@SphereOfStreaming]

I wish I had you as a mom 😔

[@cynthiathomas5754]

Yep, every year my dad has to sabotage the garden then cry victim.

[@diannedow822]

Dr Phil I hope you understand how much you have changed my life. I was a single mom taking care of a seriously disabled child when I met my now husband. I thought I was the luckiest woman in the world until I realized he was a narcissist. I can not leave my home because it is all modified and handicapped accessible for my daughter and I need to be home to take care of her. The only escape I have are your videos. ❤

[@caroleminke6116]

Take control back & do not ever let him put you down in any way… then eventually he will leave!

[@amandafevrier5497]

🙏

[@joannmclean6406]

There's a special place in heaven one day for you. Please try your best to enjoy your life. I'm praying for you. ❤

[@Vixinaful]

The bible! Turn to the bible and 2 Timothy 3.

[@TireSlayer55]

Divorce him. You deserve better. That's not a healthy environment for your child to be in either.

[@tina2667-jy8my]

Although this definitely describes my covert, he was also the "silent sufferer", the "don't let them see you sweat" guy, the "backdoor avenger" when you don't see it coming and don't quickly connect it with a past issue. He doesn't argue or outwardly criticize, he just gets even....quietly. He was raised by an overt and has an overt brother, watching them turn people off with their arrogant ways so mine learned the covert approach so he could come in stealth but still maintain the same entitled, manipulative lifestyle.

[@virginiadavis6156]

Thank you Dr Phil. I now have a label. I have been living with a covert narcissist since 2019. I couldn't understand why he is never happy for me, or compliments, jealous of my pets, always blaming , assuming, breaking my friendships, sabotaged events, embarrasses me, deprives me of success , never apologises , never is a teamplayer... always throws his pay check as a power tool and too good to wash dishes....envious of others.....

[@iona.1footinfront840]

They seem self - effacing ! But they are not !! And just waiting for the (unfair) universe to deliver to them their just rewards (cause they are sooooooo ENTITLED ) and they are ENVIOUS of everybody ! And then they gotta be the goddamn VICTIM on top of it! Such true words - so well spoken - thankyou Dr. Phil ❤

[@susannay.3437]

Absolutely: leveling. Never heard that term in all the videos on narcissism I've watched. Describes my husband exactly. He never whines, just judges.

[@93Jubilee]

And, like my n-sister, she 'gain's whatever self-worth she has through judging others. And it utterly constant!

[@JP-zp4ve]

Pity party... don’t go to that party. The food isn’t that great, and nobody ever shows up!

[@DR.Ahead.2000]

Spot-On Dr Phil! As our Marriage Counselor stated 3 years ago..."A Nightmare with No End"

[@happyhealthyblessed]

This is the x mil to a t. So glad I don’t have to deal with them anymore. Thank God!!

[@sherryo7315]

When I opened my childcare center my mother said to me, "How did YOU get to be so industrious?" Thanks mom.

[@justinengland9814]

Dr Phil is speaking about my 'father' like he was in the room!

[@cynthiathomas5754]

Same here.

[@dianeb3973]

Wish I would have heard this info years ago !!!!! Would not have married my husband ... soon to be ex. Takes FOREVER to divorce a covert narcissist !!!

[@ladyvirgo9514]

My divorce process just started....what a mess

[@Izzilinkt]

Me too is soooooo drainfullll en the fake tears AMD than he gives me creepy vies and say we wil be under the grond together

[@DarkerSideOfDawn]

Pretty sure mine is the murder suicide type.. As much as he pretends how happy he is to have moved on.. he still keeps baiting me..

[@PJHEATERMAN]

Go no contact. Just trying to get the hooks in again.

[@user-tn1in7qx2d]

I think we should have a psychology classes in primary schools, basic understanding, like this video - it would help a lot of people.

[@janeoxley4829]

Yes, there is someone, in our family, a sibling, constantly complaining, about their carers, not taking any responsibility, blaming others, a real pain, and ab exhausting individual.

[@MelanieLichtinger]

What a powerful quote by Roosevelt. And relevance for the narcissist dynamics.

[@Mattheus217]

I have seen so many of these traits. Then told that I am just “seeing” things wrong, they have not done anything wrong, it is my fault, etc. She picks an argument about literally anything, seems to enjoy belittling, shaming, you name it.

[@caitlynw.2524]

The covert narc. I was involved with didn’t whine but did play the victimhood card at times gaslighted tried to turn things around and switch blame on me he wouldn’t admit to his faults ever and therefore never apologized for anything he did ego, pride, a calculating manipulator often an charming and charismatic person when first meeting him he knows how to draw people into him with various tactics he uses, a smooth caring loving attentive behaving front he puts on early in a relationship but in time they’re real side emerges narcissists where a false mask and that mask will drop eventually too and true they do drain you’re energy

[@cynthiathomas5754]

People like my dad at first, but it doesn't take long for others to disappear. He had great neighbors for years who avoided him.

[@winnowmethis9501]

When this is a family member, what do you do? Every-last-point that Dr. Phil has made I have scene in a family member. It is shocking how utterly accurate this analysis is. But when you have other family members who are manipulated by a person like this where they are duped, it drives a great wedge of divisiveness into the family unit. If you see what Dr. Phil has laid out and others don't through manipulation, you become an island unto yourself in a family unit. The mantra of "Can't we all just get along" rules the day. Meanwhile, this black hole sucks everyone dry. It is a nightmare.

[@diannedow822]

I suggest another great resource. A podcast called waking up to narcissism by Tony overlay. Very helpful.

[@winnowmethis9501]

@@diannedow822 Thank you. I will check it out.

[@winnowmethis9501]

I think with Dr. Phil, he's giving the straight goods. I don't like to be overly psychoanalytical. That too can be a black hole. Dr. Phil has given the straight goods and laid it out very nicely. It is a help.

[@user-ge6uo2ry2b]

It is the exact description of a family I can’t get rid of too. Eerily accurate on every point. My ex was this way too. I was groomed to choose him. I hope he adds a series on exactly what to say and do in the interactions with the family member especially since they have the public persona and the private demon.

[@deirdrelewis1454]

I had an aunt who was like this. I realised that I could never win so I instinctively used what is now called the grey rock method. No matter what she said, I always said things like: I don’t know, I have no idea, I couldn’t say etc. all non answers. There wasn’t much she could do with that.

[@Sheri2011Bear]

Dr. Phil, thank you SO MUCH for your time, dedication and tender guidance. In a time where I need healing the most from my narcissistic mother. I’m in my early 20s and I’m hoping for sons/daughters of narcissistic parents realize now and get help ASAP. Therapy, staying in school and hobbies has helped me stay sane! These videos are truly a blessing. THANK YOU

[@PJHEATERMAN]

When i told the Narcs wife he was sleeping with my wife, the look on her face was "Oh no not again" I realized what a traumatic marriage she had. She divorced him and escaped.

[@barbhutchings4002]

Just hearing what Theadore Roosevelt said help shift something inside me.....I will be revisiting this episode!...Thank-you.

[@a1m4thah3d]

Holy crap you just described my last relationship. I always felt nothing I did was ever good enough. I knew she came from a bad upbringing and so I thought if I just held on long enough she would get better, I just needed to be patient and show her I cared. Nope. 9 years of having my soul systematically withered down day after day for nothing.

[@ladyvirgo9514]

As their wife,YOU will never love them enough to encourage them to heal. Cut your losses and get away. I wasted 12 years of my life with him,NOT knowing what he is. Malicious

[@cynthiathomas5754]

My mom stayed. When she got sick, he antagonized her( she had dementia), told us she was doing stuff " on purpose ", then abandoned her at a foster home. Lucky for her, she died of other causes. I finally know now why some people should go to Hell.

[@ladyvirgo9514]

@@cynthiathomas5754 I'm so sorry 😞 They are ruthless. My condolences & hugs

[@privateprivate8366]

While there is a such thing as a certain amount of toxicity, equal to the environmental dynamic you’re in and it’s just realism as opposed to being a Pollyanna, this is exactly right. For me, other than the real life, multiple reasons why I went through probate, one of them was to make a final separation from my sister. I know her life hasn’t been great and I went no contact, which did not help her and our mother’s situation, I know enough to recognize a failure to launch, Dunning Kruger, covert, malignant, “help me fix another of my mistakes” narcissist, when I see one. We’re in our 50s now and one of her upsets over even having probate, is that she knows we are done. Now that narc mom is gone, I’m the last possible form of emotional, psychological and financial supply she’ll probably ever see - and I will be gone, even if we end up living on the same street, which is likely (long story). But, I am not going to spend what time I have left on Earth, with this nut job humping my life and running me the Hell up out of my own life. If she has to die, by her own decisions and mistakes, it beats me dying.

[@strangemagic4704]

Omgosh!!! Thank you for this insight. Lightbulb moment 😮

[@kkeiter]

Thanks Phil. You hit the nail on the head. You’re the best at explaining this

[@QX-xq5uj]

Thank you so much Doc Phil 🙏🏻 for confirming that it's not possible to save or fix them! I would have loved to know this before I tried it so many years until my energy was almost gone and I realized that I was Trauma-bonded.

[@ladyvirgo9514]

Same here.

[@QX-xq5uj]

@@ladyvirgo9514 Better late than never! 😉 And now we can be happy and thankful about being free again🙏🏻

[@DavidDyche]

Phil you rock! May you be blessed beyond all reason. Listen to this man he has experience (better than gold).

[@tammycooper7569]

Its imperative that you truly understand Narcissism totally before its spoken

[@passionx]

Thank you so much for explaining all these forms of narcissist!

[@ernarc23]

This was BRILLIANT! Thank you so much, Dr. Phil. I'm sure anyone who was ever a competitive athlete, who ever started their own business, and who ever did anything unique or daring, on their own, knows exactly what you're saying is true. None of these wonderful achievements are ever handed to the achiever on a silver platter. It usually involves inner vision, daring (often against the odds), a willingness to go out on a limb even without support, and (in some cases), years of blood, sweat and tears. That may be why the vociferous criticism by benchwarmers is so outlandish - because they are completely clueless as to what it actually takes to even attempt to do what you do (whether you failed or not). As you and Teddy Roosevelt aptly stated, you have to "be in the arena" and be willing to lose blood or body parts to know what it's all about. To mix metaphors, no one follows the yellow brick road to Oz because it's rolled out for them. They are laying that yellow brick road themselves.🌹

[@wanttopreach]

So the one big problem in the vast expansion of narcissist people that is causing this is most mothers have stopped teaching guilt so we have people who feel no guilt and think they are right!

[@sandracaezza7234]

Oh man 1:41 was my life. Thank you for my daily dose to be free of the narc/addict. Divorce signed seven months out. I stayed for 24 yrs. My self esteem was so beat down. Everyday I have gratitude for this life lesson. I found his opinion of my on his social media. I was with him through every relapse. Absolutely terrible things to say about me. May he find his pride . His karma is to live his life everyday. “ I’d rather be a whole human rather than a human filled with holes.” Thank you Dr. Phil

[@sarahgabbitass66]

I am really enjoying these videos and finding them very helpful. It is all spot on for my Mothers behaviour and my youngest adult daughter, both are narcissists and I suspect both are covert narcissists. My daughter has been recently sectioned under the mental health act and is currently in hospital. Her behaviours are mostly the same as my Mothers behaviours, except my daughter also has Schizophrenia and psychosis, and possibly bipolar too, so she has also been displaying much more extreme behaviours too, but she thinks there is nothing wrong with her and thinks it’s all our fault she’s in hospital. I think it’s genetic and not nurture but nature, at least in my family members. When we think back, she was always very different from our 2 older adult children. She was always a show off, hyperactive and always expected to win and come first in everything from a very young age. She would get angry and disappointed and play the victim if she got in trouble at school and when she didn’t come first in a competition, playing piano, singing, dancing etc also from a very young age. She doesn’t have any empathy for anyone else at all and never has had. When she comes in a room she tries to force us to stop what we’re doing and give her complete attention, if we ignore her and watch tv, she just carries on talking until we turn it off. We can’t talk back to her or she just talks over us and doesn’t stop talking until she’s finished. If she doesn’t get what she asked for from us, she rages at us then gives us the silent treatment and won’t speak to us for days or weeks.

[@LN-jr6nj]

Wow this is so accurate

[@MrBigbangbuzz]

These are good Phil

[@Autismteenandfam]

It's not easy letting go when it is a parent/mother

[@michelletrill2870]

Absolutely brilliant could be more spot on. I have tried to help time and time again with these people. Nothing is ever good enough. Black and white thinking, I pity them for not having the strength to do what's right for themselves and everyone around them

[@billstewart1747]

Feels great to be healed from being one!!

[@oliverpinelli3334]

The Rosevelt quote gave me chills...

[@lisaratley4858]

I’m hyper-sensitive to people who criticize me while they sit back and do the bare minimum. I got a Masters degree as a single mom who was thrown out of high school in the 1980’s. I was from “the wrong side of the tracks” and made my way by myself. I got my GED, had a child, started college, worked, went through a divorce, lost my grandmother, mother, and mother in law while working and going to college. All while paying the bills, raising my child correctly, cleaning my home, mowing the yard…everything. The people that criticized me before, during, and after get my hyper sensitivity. No doubt.

[@amazinggraces3850]

I know all too well all of it ,with a nc for years . Horrible experience ,they are heartless. I left and never looked back. They are very dangerous people.

[@KoolT]

Bravo Doc.

[@jautumnstar]

I work for someone who acts exactly like this… it is HELL!!!!!

[@letgooftherope]

paranoid malcontents. 😂very true

[@irenehurtig266]

Yes!Wow!

[@magicsinglez]

They level themselves up.

[@metallicbeast]

The last minute is the funniest one hahaha

[@nawalsada9359]

Thank ayou🌹

[@DarkerSideOfDawn]

I would love to see you collaborate with Lundy Bancroft ..

[@Leila_Amel]

My ex covert narcissist is professionally successful. He is highly educated, and he could find a place in the financial hierarchy. However, he is a failure as a partner

[@sophiarevel6952]

They're going to sit on their butt and think about manifesting things. Stepping up and getting things done is too much. The universe delivers to those who put a plan of action into place. God helps those who help themselves.

[@redrumax]

My mother.

[@tobymaloney6532]

Where can you find an attorney whom knows how to work with the lies and fraud? In AZ need attorney help or an expert witness to explain the Nar behavior. thx From AZ

[@FloSunny]

I have a family member who is a cross between a covert/classic narcissist. Is this possible?

[@cocoaocean]

Being at home isn't so bad. If we all wanted the same things, that would be more resources used up. I can't compete in the world. Home is more along my dharma/nature. I dont want to "get out there." In fact, mostly, the world wants to get inside with no respect to the meaning of the home. To each there own. 😊🎉😊

[@serena7397]

Are they wallowing Dr. Phil or high on their ego thinking they got you good? I just hope that I don't fit this criteria.

[@user-rz5iq7ne7k]

My mother

[@Itstoochima10]

All they do Is complain and blame

[@franzjosef7728]

Leave narcissists alone!

[@beasaroseco5840]

Coworkers. Grrrrrr!🙄

[@norma9134]

My mother to a T

[@sheilaf9317]

Brene Brown

[@user-qz6ml3hb9u]

So are all die hard sports fans who associate with "their" team, always critique the team athletes, and will pick a fight about it literally, also narcissists?

[@DR.Ahead.2000]

2:35

[@Qdogg2019]

Tbh the covert narcissist seems like the white liberal gen z or millennial

[@amandafevrier5497]

Not true

[@penderyn8794]

Dr Phil is a classic narcissist, most successful people had help......parental money or the best connections

[@lee5802]

no he isnt

[@AtticTapes14]

Says the rich tv host

[@stillhuman4662]

What a crock, constantly needing to read his poor research.

[@NPD2024]

Brene Brown. Used that same quote….