Phillip Island Murder | Beth Barnard Case Analysis

[@luke0b708]

Vivienne didn't jump off the bridge. The police analysed the bridge railings and found that the railing had a continuous soft salty crust on it that had not been altered at any point. Also, That bridge would have had no traffic on it at all at that time of the morning, her car was found a fair way away from the bridge and the bridge itself is really long. If she was going to jump off she would have just stopped in the middle of the bridge and jumped. No one would have been around to stop her. The place where her car was found is more like a spot you'd leave your car if you were going to meet up with someone. (I know the area really well, I used to go surfing at Philip island every weekend). The other thing about this is that you can jump off it without dying. It's high but not massive & people have done it on a bet. The currents below are really strong though. I have no idea what happened but I reckon its unlikely that shed jumped off the bridge.

[@annal7364]

The little penguins thank you for being their publicist this Thanksgiving, Dr. Grande! That Macy’s Day Parade gets too much attention! 🐧🐧🐧

[@bthomson]

Baby yoda !

[@cottontails9003]

Some teenagers , a couple of years ago, killed and tortured those beautiful little penguins. Even today, when I think about it, it still makes me cry

[@annal7364]

@@cottontails9003 Stuff like that enrages me to a degree that sickens me. They’re sweet little precious creatures just doing what they do. What’s wrong with people?! 🤬😢

[@BrookeEvangelineWinter]

😂

[@mm764]

Indeed. Torturing is sick. Butchering life in a single slash for food is still alright.

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

It’s amazing how the pain of betrayal creates so much rage to the point where people are willing to not only kill the offenders but also to destroy their children’s lives in the process. So much damage and so many lives were destroyed in the horrific crime. Insightful analysis of a very sad case, thank you Dr. Grande.❤️ *Side note- Dr. Grande, it was very cute of you to add those penguin pictures.✨🥰✨

[@jen30551]

I'm so grateful that I have never been that in love with a person that I was willing to hurt someone outside of the relationship over them. I can see how one might hurt their partner in a fit of rage but to seek out and destroy your rival has to be a very dark place. I suppose in some cases it can be an act of desperation to preserve the life you have built. Especially if you feel that person can take away not only your partner but your home and maybe even your children.

[@jeffandjuliet]

I love the penguins too!

[@alexandraburley15]

Thanks for sharing this story! My grandparents have a holiday house at Phillip Island, so I've been going there all my life. I heard this story a few years ago, but none of my family had. We know this place so well, but not its dark side. I wholly encourage anyone travelling to Victoria to visit Phillip Island, particularly Cowes Thanks for giving this case the awareness it deserves. Edit: The bridge (known as the San Remo bridge) is only 12 metres high, the reason no one really attempts suicide on it is because it is easily survivable. It is 640 metres long, 1/3 of that length is sand and 1/3 shallow water. I see this as a terrible place to attempt suicide, but not a bad place to dump a body, if in the right area, and right time of day. Vivian's body could have been swept out into the ocean, (passing most of Phillip Islands East coast) if she entered the water at high tide, and was swept out with the receding tide. If she went in at low tide, she would have very likely been swept towards French island or San Remo beach. It's important to acknowledge Fergus is part of a very influential family in Phillip Island. I can see that the police may have turned a blind eye, or investigated the case with less scrutiny. his wounds were on his back and ear, which seems suspicious. He is currently deputy chair of the tourism board, he owned the grand Prix circuit (until 2006) which is a major tourism draw, particularly with the annual motogp.

[@Wistful77]

Things are not always as they appear. A lot more looking at the evidence seems warranted with this many inconsistencies. Thank you, Dr. Grande!

[@cassandrasuzannelalonde4758]

I heard about this case on 60 minutes Australia. I will reiterate a phrase from my school years...what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive. Thank you for your informative video. I wish you and your family a warm and happy Thanksgiving.

[@bthomson]

Shakespeare!

[@smokeshow7691]

It sure will make you frail like a skinny pale.

[@jriver3145]

@@bthomson Tupac

[@jriver3145]

@@bthomson Joking, it's actually Walter Scott

[@snifftheglove1119]

For us Australians; u have no idea how satisfying it is to hear Melbourne pronounced correctly!

[@tomcook]

Melburnie

[@LolaJay_]

Dr. Grande, your videos are masterful. You are now my favorite YT content creator regarding crime, mystery and contemporary topics. For me, you are a cut above the rest because you are a pro. An amateur keeps doing things until he gets it right. A pro will do it until he can't get it wrong.

[@sallywarren5700]

Thanks Dr Grande. I’m heading to Phillip Island today and this was a good refresher of the story.

[@Iron678Maiden]

Gonna see the penguin parade?

[@carmenhunter4380]

Enjoy Sally!

[@the_diddle]

@@Iron678Maiden everyone goes at least once. It is a huge attraction there :)

[@sallywarren5700]

@@Iron678Maiden no, been there, done that. It’s pouring rain.

[@amyferguson8856]

That penguin parade gave me joy ! I hope you and your family have a lovely and delicious Thanksgiving !

[@DottieMinerva]

This case is wild and would make for a great movie plot. I can’t believe this is the first I’m hearing of it.

[@amandac9207]

Dr. Todd can you do a deep dive on catfishing / scamming lonely people online? How and why do people believe they are in love with people they've never met, give them money, etc.? Why do they seem mentally ill, enraged with family, become illogical, out of character and so on? Thank you!

[@thatsfunny2051]

I live nearish to Philip Island! I think this is the first "local to me" case you've done

[@raerae6422]

A few things you left out: Vivian had her own car and never used the landcruiser which was the farm vehicle. She had no reason to drive it. A witness saw Fergus's landcruiser driving towards town with a motorbike on the back. Which was gone when the vehicle was found, only the hay bails (that i assume stopped the bike from sliding off) were left on. Vivian was a heavy smoker. She had parked at the base of the bridge but didnt take her smokes on her final walk up to the bridge. The bridge that as a local she knew that kids would jump off of it every summer for fun. I personally would be smoking my guts out on the way up there. Fergus was the last verified person to see Beth alive that night. Beths throat was cut the same way Fergus kills his sheep. Head pulled back, from behind and one deep cut across. Vivian never partook in that side of the business. So many, many other things i could add but just one more thing. Beth had ended things with Fergus days before. She had given 2 weeks notice to the penguin parade(that she had been working at all along as well as Fergus's farm. She had told her friends and the parade she was moving back to her home town back in Melbourne. She wasnt a Phillip Island local, she just was staying at her families holiday house. Theres an in-depth podcast by Vicky Petritis called "the vanishing of Vivian Cameron". One of the best podcasts ive listened to.

[@A.J.8.8.8]

I agree with you, this case is definitely not sitting right and I am heavily leaning towards Fergus being the killer however what do you think his motive was for getting rid of both women?

[@helent6000]

Kill one and it's obvious he did it. Kill the 2nd, and it's easy to frame Vivian as long as she's never found.

[@raerae6422]

@A.J.2824 Just saw your comment. Fergus and Vivian's marriage was dead. With an eventual divorce Fergus would have to split his share of the family's land, house and assets with Vivian. All his financials would be sifted through by the lawyers, which its possible he was also trying to avoid. I cant remember his family's surname but they were one of the most prominent and prolific landholders on the island. Then there is child support to Vivian and/or battling it out in court which can get quite nasty and a lot of dirt can get exposed. Then there was the impending sale of the land where the Phillip Island Gran Prix circuit stands. Fergus, his brother and sister and the three spouses were getting $1 million each. No surprise who would get Vivian's $1 million? With Vivian gone he had a scapegoat for Beth's murd3r, gained $1 mil for the land, didnt have to divvy up any of the assets, no paying child support for the next 10 or more years, no having to deal with the ex-wife at all and she would take his secrets to the grave. But, hey, he could be totally innocent and Vivian killed Beth and disappeared without any trace of her alive or dead till this day. I think his motive for Beth was that he was scorned. I think i remember she broke it off two weeks before, had dated another guy and decided to move back to Melbourne but F wouldnt leave her alone. My gut says she also would have a lot of dirt on the family after working for the farm and being involved with F. Again, i could be wrong. Maybe he is squeaky clean.

[@renee1961]

Good afternoon, Dr. Grande!🙋🌵🪴🌵🪴 Thank You! Happy Thanksgiving, Everyone!🦃🦃🦃

[@bthomson]

Hope your holiday is yummi!

[@renee1961]

@@bthomson hi! Thank You! Hope yours was ,too!🦃🦃🦃

[@Pimpernella]

I'm certain those penguins were in on it. Why the police never got around to asking them if they had noticed anything suspiscious, we'll never find out. Haha, another great story, Dr Grande, as usual...hope everyone gets to where they are going for Thanksgiving and enjoys spending time with family and friends. 👍🌪️😉

[@eadweard.]

The police could have named them as suspects. It's not like they were a flight risk.

[@kendraluful]

I was on Philip Island about ten years ago. It’s gorgeous! The penguin parade is really awesome! Thanks for the highlight on this case. It’s a very small place…I grew up in such a small place…why anyone thinks the whole community doesn’t know your business is beyond me!

[@bthomson]

Maybe that's part of the problem! No privacy! Too much gossip! Too much shame! One family has too much power! Police may not want to investigate that family! Etc!

[@anonymousstrangeness7348]

Thank you, Doctor Grande --this analysis is so well thought out, and so respectful to everyone involved. Extremely well done. ☺ 👍

[@richardsisk1770]

Interesting case. Thank you Dr. Grande. Be well.

[@farnazrostami5302]

Dr. Grande’s analysis and explanation are so through that if Vivian had watched the video, she would have believed that doctor was there. Thank you doctor. You are awesome🌟.

[@maureeningleston1501]

This case has always boggled my mind!!! Who did what, when and why ?????

[@bthomson]

Agreed!?

[@ElvenLogic22]

I get so excited whenever I see you have a new video! 🙏

[@sabriguella]

i love you and your videos! helped me so much to learn more about my npd. ❤️❤️

[@renee1961]

This is strange. I'm going to watch, again! Thank You! I've never heard of this Case.

[@jen30551]

I had to watch a second time as well. Very strange case...

[@renee1961]

hi!☺️🦃🌞🙋 I thought it was just me. It's odd! Have a good Thanksgiving! 🦃🦃🦃

[@daveatkins3568]

60 min Australia has a show on it

[@renee1961]

@@daveatkins3568 hello. Thank You! I'll check it out! Enjoy your weekend!

[@lnc-to4ku]

What a gripping video- it took turns I was not expecting! Crimes that are committed from rage always seem to be the most savage. You're a master storyteller Dr. Grande! I also loved the part about the little penguins, and when you said " I bet the penguins are looking around every night thinking, I feel like I should be riding on a float." ;D 🐧🐧🐧

[@shadowscott9910]

My wife has several purses. So “Vivian’s purse” may not describe a singular item, but one of a collection.

[@samjam2376]

I agree

[@MechaNintendoMast]

I was gonna say something like this, and of course a man might not know the difference...

[@bunnifer23]

I went to the penguin parade 6 years ago. It was really cool to see so many little penguins at the same time, but it was a little weird how commercialized it was (at least considering it’s a wildlife activity). I remember walking through a huge gift shop before getting to the boardwalk penguin viewing area. They sold popcorn and drinks like you were going to the movies. The parking lot had signs to check for penguins under your car before driving off. It made me think that there must have been some unfortunate accidents involving the penguins! 😧

[@baconsarny-geddon8298]

"It made me think that there must have been some unfortunate accidents involving the penguins!" I used to go to "the penguin parade" as a kid in the 80s, every time a relative visited from interstate or overseas, and back then it was just totally open and "wild west", do what you want- It was "commercialised" in the fact that all the shops sold t-shirts and key-rings, but the actual beach was just open and unsupervised; You'd just turn up and set up a picnic-blanket on the beach, and the penguins would waddle right over the blanket sometimes, on their way to the nests in the dunes. But the locals had dozens of stories, about tourists trying to wrap one of the "adorable, cute" penguins up in towel, and take it home for a pet (god knows WHY- the penguins may LOOK cute, but they absolutely reek of rotting fish, and they're not exactly "docile"- They're bitey af), trying to steal eggs or chicks, caving in burrows/nests, people setting their dogs onto the penguins, or dogs attacking while owners weren;t watching, penguin roadkill was fairly common, etc. It IS kinda sad, how it's all cordonned-off and such a sterilized, generic experience, now. But it was pretty neccessary, considering the volume of tourists, and how close it is to a city of 4 or 5 million.

[@stevenhair3250]

That’s something dumb people do that hurts animals. You’re part or the problem

[@ChristinePerez903]

Yes this is intriguing as penguins!!! Great analysis Dr Grande!!!

[@goldsack7919]

Hi Dr. Grande. Can you do a video on Martin Bryant - the weirdest mass shooter of all time from Port Arthur 1996.

[@cathrynhaywood-batchelor4869]

This would be great. There are so many bizarre conspiracy stories around this event. I’d love to hare the Dr’s take on it.

[@a24-45]

Yes Martin Bryant had a very unusual life (up till the event), including a period of privilege and wealth, as I recall. He didn't look at all what people might expect a mass killer to look like either; you'd take him for a goodlooking, laid-back surfie.

[@michaelphelan423]

You are not kidding about the size of the penguins. The Blue Penguin or Fairy Penguin is the smallest of the penguins. An adult probably stands about 12 inches high. The babies are just a small ball of fluff. They are really precious. My daughter lives close to Phillip Island so we got to see the parade whenever we’ve gone pre-COVID

[@lnc-to4ku]

Tiny penguins, tiny balls of fluff.... I would SO love to that amount of cuteness! 🐧

[@Tindometari]

The best thing is that penguins have no natural fear of humans. (That's a big part of their general cuteness.) As far as they're concerned, we're just weird two-legged animals and they'll go about their business right past us without a care. Maybe the penguin parade is *them* taking a walk to look at *us* ...

[@sylviekins]

They are so amazing-so tiny but they go out to sea for huge distances. They also mate for life. There is a wonderful fairy penguin colony in Oamaru in NZ, very carefully controlled. I only went to Phillip Island nice over 20 years ago-it was not commercialised then but there was control over contact with the penguins❤️

[@sevenitta-_-]

Dr.Grande throwing in the “too subtle” line in at the end, making me chuckle.

[@sueluvu]

The story of Vivienne attacking Fergus with a wine glass comes from him from Fergus only. Most people on rhe island believe those wounds were defence wounds made by Beth. I often see Fergus on the island, the other day he was opposite my cottage, and he just makes ne feel ill.

[@zenawarrior7442]

Great breakdown of another sad case say the 🐧🐧 Thanks Dr G😊🧡🧡

[@glendasully]

I think this is one of your best analysis yet. The way you presented it is intriguing. The cacti behind your left shoulder remind me of my life. Teetering on the edge

[@lnc-to4ku]

Also, Happy Thanksgiving, Dr. Grande, and to all of you who are celebrating it on the 25th! 🦃 (we celebrated it on Oct. 11th) I'm very thankful for having Dr. Grande in my life! I hope you and your family all have to change into stretchy pants after a wonderful feast with your loved ones! ♡♡

[@karmeluful]

Good afternoon.. Just finished my online lesson for today, this is a welcome break.. Thanks

[@madjayneify]

Thanks for another great video, doc! You’ve got such a consistent output of content, it never fails to amaze me. I hope you and yours have a great thanksgiving 💕 Also I haven’t heard of the penguin parade. How cute 🥺

[@jen30551]

Dr Grande just gave me a new case to dive into. This is the first I've heard of it. Happy Thanksgiving everyone. Stay safe out there in this crazy world!

[@Ramona_93]

You always generate interesting content thank you

[@puffyelvis5895]

Great, now I feel guilty after laughing so hard during a murder analysis. Thanks for that.

[@SilverLining1215]

Great video as always, Dr. Grande. I have a suggestion of a case I wanted you to look at. Can you analyze the case of Josh Gilchrist of Huron, South Dakota? Really interesting case of parricide.

[@laurenvanschajik]

I am so shocked you have done this one! I live in Melbourne, not tooooo far from Phillip Island. Thank you Dr Grande

[@lorrettalewis1766]

Phillip Island is close to where i live, i remember this case. Another interesting case with quite a few involved is the Paul Snabel murder, another murder too close to home! Thanks Dr Grande 💕

[@Pattiepies55]

Australian here. My parents had property on Philip Island & the fairy penguin parade is a sight to see. Every Night at dusk wave after wave of 30cm tall penguins would come ashore and head to their burrows where they left their chicks. They'd be single minded about this and walk all over the tourist's feet quite fearlessly to get "home" .

[@mrs.reluctant4095]

Watching Dr.'s channel is my personal equivalent to a penguin parade. Every country has it's own customs and traditions, but in the end life is all about cuteness.💙

[@bthomson]

Mrs. R - Always like your comments! 🐧🐧🐧

[@annal7364]

Yes! I believe cuteness is universally understood.

[@mrs.reluctant4095]

@@bthomson Thank you. 🙂

[@mrs.reluctant4095]

@@annal7364 💛 Right.

[@BeckBeckGo]

It’s all life and cuteness until you cheat on your wife and she murders your mistress before faking her own death. Idk about you guys, but I think the penguins were in on it.

[@kaylam9862]

Dr Grande never in my life have I heard an American correctly pronounce Melbourne. It was so satisfying to hear!!!

[@zilgill9589]

The Cammeron family are HUGE fish in a tiny pond. An “extensive conspiracy “ to cover up murder and other malfeasance is entirely possible. Dig a bit deeper into them.

[@Splash99]

I read that the Cameron's were selling their shares at the time of the murder. They need Viv's signature and willingness to sell her share a the huge deal to happen. Immediately they filed for a death certificate on Viv so the deal could go through..which it did. Sounds like poor Beth was a sacrifice in a double murder.

[@itz_arifunneh]

Thank you for this video It helps me a lot!!!!!

[@museumghost]

this case has driven me NUTS for years!!! I feel like I’ve consumed nearly every piece of media on it, but I still don’t know what I think…other than fergus is sus af.

[@Listrynne]

I agree. Vivian may have killed Beth, but I think Fergus killed Vivian or maybe both women. Especially with his story about Vivian agreeing to let him have the kids. I know some women don't mind letting their ex have full custody, but it's usually because they're the selfish party in the divorce. When the divorce is over the man's infidelity the woman usually fights for the kids.

[@jen30551]

@@Listrynne @museumghost Same thoughts! So strange. I also wondered if Fergus maybe found Vivienne dead from suicide after killing Beth and he disposed of her body thinking it would be easier on the children somehow. Whatever the case, I agree. Fergus is sus AF!

[@peterpisspotty3052]

I've read the book and discussed it with others who have read the book and I can't work out what happened - it's the telephone call - caller was identified as Vivien - that throws a spanner in the works, for me

[@natashavernon9828]

Wow! I can't wait for Dr.Grande to hit 1 MILLION subscribers!

[@brianharris7243]

This is the most confusing case I've watched!

[@valeriealas]

I love your videos. You’re the best Dr. Grande! I wish you were my psychiatrist!!!!

[@samlsd9711]

Respect to Dr.Grande for being detailed and concise. Thank you as always. I remembered Penguin from Gotham City unfortunate how people think taking a life is the solution.

[@grimslade0]

I don't know if it was intentional, but I'm glad Dr Grande pronounced Melbourne as "Mel-Ben"; the correct way! I drove to Philip Island one night.. Morning, at 4am. I'd just bought a Falcon, and was just excited to get those revs... There's so many rabbits there at night... Overall 10/10, would recommend. > Doesn't get more Mel-Ben than that...

[@jena.alexia]

Oohh! Thank you for doing a very local case for me. This is a fascinating case. I've read the book. The penguin parade is adorable and a must see if you come to Melbourne/Victoria. 😊 I too have wondered if the penguins wonder why these people keep rocking up every night to watch them go into their burrows. 😁

[@danae-rain3019]

You are my favorite channel Dr Grande. Love your content. Informative and entertaining.

[@diamondleigh7280]

I ❤️ to hear Dr Grande analysis on case's I'm familiar with.... 🦋👍🏼 🤭 I find myself feeling a little anxious-happy to see what his opinion will be..... ❤️❤️♦️❤️❤️😌

[@zero_bs_tolerance8646]

Thanks, Doc.

[@megalopolis2015]

I think there is more to this case than meets the eye. The missing Beth DNA is very concerning, especially the fact that it appeared not to have been mixed with the wife's. The large "A" might have been to throw off the scent of the husband. His injury might not have been due to his wife, but dispatching the girlfriend, or assisting in some way. I'm also not completely convinced that she would relinquish custody of the kids so easily. It's also possible that she was distraught enough to do everything she is suspected of doing. It's really sad, either way.

[@freelanceopportunist559]

I swear you do so many Australian cases to bust out your perfect pronunciations of Mel-bun and Bris-bun to receive endless praise from us Aussies....

[@sharee3135]

We had a holiday house at Philip Island in the 80s and remember this case. Recently went back to Philip Island with my own kids and revisited the penguin parade. Those fairy penguins are still at it!

[@falmiekeddy8270]

I really enjoyed this video.

[@jopan1363]

Watching from NY

[@bthomson]

From Arizona (formerly from NY!)

[@ellastewart5747]

hope you have a restful holiday, Dr. Grande!

[@nutellabrot9047]

Happy Thanksgiving Dr. Grande and your viewers 😆🦃🌽🍂🍁🍽 👪

[@bthomson]

Back at you!🍇🍐🍑🍓🍒🍅

[@missywink1504]

My take-away from this case is learning about the Penguin Parade ;)

[@StarseedWitchTarot]

Thank you 🙏

[@brianpratt3224]

If they had only met the Australian Jesus, they might have been saved.

[@bthomson]

One of my favorite comic ploys merging two videos! 😁

[@alexisalexi5161]

Hahahaaa

[@annal7364]

Ha! Nice!

[@lnc-to4ku]

Lol!!

[@daveatkins3568]

Woah. Hold up. Jesus can’t be in Australia. I’m Jesus. I’m doing cocaine with Mary Magdalene right now. She just finished up her shift at the strip club.

[@jenniferchaney3019]

Thank You ☺️❤️

[@carmenhunter4380]

I did the Phillip Island Penguin Pde a few years ago! The penguins are soo cute I wanted to put one in my bag 😜

[@lnc-to4ku]

I'd definitely have to fight the urge to scoop one of them up too! ;D

[@wendybond2848]

The Little Penguins are gorgeous. After they waddle up the beach they go back to their burrows where their chicks are waiting outside for their parents.. There are boardwalks so visitors can watch all the interactions.

[@renee1961]

Hi, Dr. Grande. 🙋🌵🪴🌵🪴 Just watched again. Could Fergus have killed Vivian? I wonder how much blood was at the home. Thank You! Have a good night 🌃🌉!

[@rustyshimstock8653]

I hope that Fergus's whereabouts were thoroughly investigated. Hypotheses that put him in the role of double-murderer make a lot of sense.

[@thelocalmaladroit8873]

Happy Thanksgiving to you Dr Grande and all your viewers! Stay safe everyone especially if traveling. Don’t try to diet too much cause you’ll just set yourself up for failure and no one needs that! Yum!

[@bthomson]

Happy turkey day to you also!🦃🍗

[@thelocalmaladroit8873]

@@bthomson Thank you! Same to you!!!

[@lnc-to4ku]

Life is too short to diet on Thanksgiving, or Christmas.... ;D

[@whythenumber]

I love the penguin parade 💗 all the land was sold off at one point for residential development but was bought back to save the penguins 🐧🐧🐧

[@tomswift6198]

I always click here for penguin news. That habit finally paid off.

[@the_merc9918]

I’ll be waiting for the episode on Darrell Brooks.

[@RachaelClag]

Random fact : until the 80s they were known as "Fairy Penguins". The name was changed to "Little Penguin" for 'politically correct' reasons all those years ago! (I remember my dad going to an F-themed, fancy-dress, 40th b'day party in 1982. He went as a 'Fairy penguin'... wore a tux and carried a tinsel magic wand. 🤦‍♀️😂)

[@djizzah]

Beth's father was a very wealthy Queens Counsel, a position akin to a supreme Court judge in Australia, why didn't he pursue the true perpetrators of this heinous crime against his daughter whom by all accounts he adored, especially when the sequence of events given by the Cameron's were full of holes and didn't add up, especially with his wealth and high level legal background??

[@mariss.317]

Carving the A might have been too subtle a sign!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ishy7856]

Very interesting Doc. I've been intrigued by the mysteries surrounding this case for many years. The Cameron's were very respected and powerful in the community.. once again I believe the police investigation was very flawed. I still think Vivien was set up in some way.

[@garmtpug]

If she was set up, why was she never found? If a person is setting someone up there usually is the intention that that person will be alive and face justice. It just doesn't make sense because her body was never found, hence you really don't know what happened to her. I don't know who else would have the motive to kill Beth but Vivien. Seems as if Fergus wanted to be with Beth and not his wife.

[@jen30551]

@@garmtpug I suppose killing someone you set up would ensure they cannot offer evidence of their innocence or the killer's guilt.

[@jen30551]

@Ishy This is my first time hearing of the case. A small community with a powerful family at the center compells one to wonder how thorough and honest the investigation was. I suspect Vivienne did do it. Curious if the timeline fits for her to have told Fergus what she did causing him to then kill her in anger and grief. Sounds very Lifetime movie of the week, I know...

[@davybhoy]

Yep I tend to agree except, if not Vivienne then who killed Beth? Surely not Fergus.... I reckon it is a given that Vivienne was killed by the Camerons. It is hard to come up with any solution, even unlikely ones, that really fits all the evidence.

[@jamesbowman6925]

I would love to see an analysis of Silas Jayne. He went to prison for having his brother killed, but he is connected to several other disappearances and murders in the Chicago area, including a triple disappearance of three young women from a Lake Michigan Beach. He killed an entire flock of geese at the age of 8 because one of the geese had bitten him, so I would like to see his case discussed in the context of whether someone can be born a psychopath.

[@Lyss977]

Hey, can you react to the Observe channel? He claims to conduct non verbal analysis to supernatural videos and criminology interviews. I know you made a video in 2019 about body language "experts," but I was curious about your reaction to his content?

[@cottontails9003]

I've never heard of this case. Why is that women, who have an affair are murdered, itd usually the man who starts,the affair. I wonder if Vivian, put an end to her own life. Thank you Dr Grande. Great analysis..it was informative, as watching a penguin parade.

[@bthomson]

CT got a heart!

[@cottontails9003]

@@bthomson Here's one for you ❤

[@pattih7]

I would watch the Penguins parade! They are very interesting and informative!😊🧡

[@cottontails9003]

@@pattih7 Its truly a beautiful event too watch.

[@pattih7]

@@cottontails9003 agree!

[@kelliearnold8498]

I would love to see the penguin march. Very good diagnosis Dr.Grande.

[@xxtobeyneonxx2826]

Hello Dr. Grande, can you analyze the case of Christina grimmie the singer that was killed in 2016?

[@LDiamondz]

Was she the one who was killed by a fan? That was a sad case. ❤

[@houseofsolomon2440]

Digging the checked shirt. 👌🏼

[@stlvn6363]

They do a penguin parade at the zoo in my city, it used to be compulsory but now the penguins (quite rightly) get the option, so sometimes a "parade" is just a couple of extroverted penguins.

[@tinareaume7484]

Did you mention the letter A stands for adulterers? I didn't hear it and I am fairly certain people haven't and won't read that book. Great book.

[@karmeluful]

Is it just me that bookmarks every link that Dr Grande puts in the description for future reading along with many others? Lol

[@alexisalexi5161]

I do that as well

[@problematic_canik]

Hey Doc.

[@griffin2263]

Can you do a video about the ship wreck the Batavia ????.and the story that unfolded after ship broke apart .. it is an interesting study of what can happen when bad people are in charge

[@Heyitskrystal]

I’m betting it was the husband. He killed Vivian hid her body and killed the other woman to frame Vivian for the crime which would explain her disappearance. No way a woman that upset about leaving her husband would abandon her children.

[@sfuterfas]

That's what I thought too.

[@davel7014]

Except, he had a alibi. Like Dr Grande said, for him to have committed the murder, a whole bunch of people would have been lying to cover it up

[@Heyitskrystal]

It was late at night they were likely asleep he could have slipped out and family will lie lie or make alibis seem stronger than they are out of love.

[@davel7014]

@@Heyitskrystal Could be, but what would be his motive? If they were going to get a divorce, and he was keeping the children, he would have been free to continue his relationship. Whereas, SHE definitely had a motive. Revenge!

[@Heyitskrystal]

That’s his story we don’t know it’s true. It makes me think of the two Colorado teens that killed that girl. The boyfriend confessed he cheated and the GF would only forgive him if they killed her both had “alibis” because they snuck out offer their family was asleep. Maybe he double crossed her after wanted his kids and to be single and come out looking like the victim.

[@tonkalicious132]

Unrelated to the case- I recommend visiting Phillip Island, it's awesome 🐧

[@elizantoinette]

you forgot to mention the husband and his families wealth. Always follow the MONEY

[@susanasanroman3676]

Hi Dr. Grande- I have an idea for a new video that I wanted to share with you. How about analyzing the Duterte massacre of drug addicts in the Philippines? I thought it was relevant because addiction can be tied to mental illness. Thank you!

[@LDiamondz]

I've never heard of this before. It sounds interesting, but terrible. I'm going to look this one up. Thanks.

[@conniecerny5257]

Very good.

[@cynthiatolman326]

A few mistakes should not throw away an otherwise solid case. Great points.

[@throatwobblermangrove7508]

Do more case studies pls.

[@rayross997]

Please cover Burke & Hare? The case "gravely" concerns me.