PHOENIX-CLASS Medical Ship - SS Eleos XII - Star Trek Starship Breakdown

[@robertzollna7094]

I love the thought of a small warp capable ship that can be crewed by one or two people being sold as surplus by the federation. It opens a romantic fantasy of scraping together funds buying my own ship and traversing the galaxy to any adventures that await.

[@deaks25]

I'd seen this kind of thing suggested back in the day before 'Picard' when discussing the SS Raven and the Hanson's, so whether by intention or coincidence, it works really well.

[@fabiob6521]

Yes i love this ship if my i outfitted with an experimental engine and new weapon systems, cloaking divece 😅😅😅😂😂

[@David-kb3bd]

This was before 9/11. Imagine the paperwork involved in a civilian acquiring a warp capable vessel…

[@peterhans3791]

Runabouts are basically the size of a tour bus, warp capable, and take a beating. Perfectly serviceable for civilian just traveling around. Only drawback is cargo capacity. Probably a ton of them on surplus as Starfleet upgrades fleet over time

[@scienceMicroguy77]

Well just take this as a lesson learned about how that ship ended and yours would probably end the same way. Just remember space is a horribly antagonistic environment wrapped in death and darkness.

[@Captain.AmericaV1]

*Just remember .... Any hostile ships that get in your way, conserve your weaponry by lobbing an asteroid at them and go to warp!!*

[@alien6518]

if only janeway knew to do that instead of ending up with -38 photon torpedos

[@CrazyNights1015]

Really liked the ship. There is something alluring about having an old ship and just traveling from location to location just helping out. And I'm not worried about the loss of Crusher's stuff. I firmly believe that by the 25th century, people back up important objects like we save photos online. If a copy is destroyed, no problem. The original is still intact somewhere and a new copy can be replicated

[@fabiob6521]

O yess that is true😂😂😂

[@TrentonBennett]

I always thought the Eleos was an interesting design. It looks like a mesh of the NX-01 (Enterprise) and Steamrunner class ship. It sucks it got destroyed so early on. Thanks for this video Adam. As always I love your humor.

[@Genjitsu17]

I love this design. Weird that it's nacelles look more advanced than the ones on Fedy ships.

[@dennisud]

It was designed to be a medical ship like the one on the last episode of TNG. It really took its shape from the old NX starships! 👍🏽 Nice job Adam!

[@tjs114]

The Eleos reminded me of a horseshoe crab for some reason. But I expected it to be destroyed just like the Grissom from Wrath of Khan, which it was.

[@Rick_Cleland]

😔😔😔

[@darthvolcaniz503]

Ikr

[@elviakerlick1163]

Um... confidentially, the Grissom was destroyed in The Search for Spock. The Reliant was destroyed in The Wrath of Khan.

[@mary-kittybonkers2374]

It reminded me of a horseshoe crab too.

[@hollismccray3297]

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought it looked like a horseshoe crab. Now I'm tempted to watch Picard again

[@neilhaas]

I want to have this model starship for myself in my collection. It's an interesting ship SS Eleos XII Phoenix Class medical vessel. The warp nacelles & phaser ring emitters, sensor arrays, deflector shield. All the armaments very important for defense.

[@darthvolcaniz503]

Would have loved to add this model to my eaglemoss collection.....

[@davidponseigo8811]

You are correct about the Shrike being a Mary Sue ship.

[@Buddy74656]

Starfleet always has these massive ships, it stands to reason they would have some small ones too for short range missions. It's essentially an upgraded runabout.

[@jaslarja]

I would really love to see some more private ships in Star Trek and obviously videos about them from you guys 😉

[@westerndragon207]

The Vulcan ship that made first contact would be very interesting

[@elviakerlick1163]

In the best of all worlds, Andrew Probert's brain would be encased in the "Spock's Brain" gizmo (by Whammo), where it would churn out all Starfleet vessels in the 24th and 25th centuries. While doing the same for the Romulans, Probert would be periodically spelled by John Eaves, who would be loaned his box of blue pencils briefly, which would then be placed back under lock and key.

[@sigmacademy]

10:37. Technically there was a "non-aligned collection" of minor starfaring species that didn't fall in with the Federation OR any of the other major powers like the Romulans or the Klingons, and who was at the mercy of other more brutal (also non-aligned) species from other star system inhabitants who had warp travel. So yes, the Federation HAS been known to abandon locations when it serves the no further political purpose (the Federation colonies close to the Cardassians, for example, that gave rise to the Maquis rebels), but also when Worf was chewed out for saving his wife above saving an important defector during the Dominion War. Both had practical reasons for doing so, but it still goes to show that the Federation can STILL adopt a hard position on a position that is QUITE uncharacteristic of their humanist approach to everything.

[@cdlord80]

God bless you sir! D&D is now a thing in Star Trek!

[@Drakus_VII]

On lower decks they actually play a TTRPG similar to D&D with Martok as DM

[@borderlandsglitches]

Was the Eleos really destroyed in the collision through? On screen we see alot of small debris and a detached nacelle but the main body of the ship just seems to fly off screen.

[@charlessmith3935]

This is truly awesome little ship I really would like to see more about this ship and see it in action just because it's small doesn't mean it can't Pack-a-Punch I mean damn it got to be more powerful then a Runabout

[@hankthepatriot3733]

John Eaves is a friend of my wife's, and is hands down one the coolest people I've met... helluva designer!

[@al28854]

The warp nacelles remind me of the Romulan D'deridex-class warbird from TNG series.

[@bradbeck753]

I just want to say I always enjoy your channel is a Trekkie fan and also your guys sense of humor.

[@_Omega_Weapon]

I'd like to see a breakdown of the Shrike and it's systems but I don't think there's enough info out there yet.

[@Jestersage]

Definitely. At first I thought it was based on Romulan design, but now that I think about it, it also resembles that of STO's Jem'Hadar design

[@TrekCentral]

Definitely! We'll be looking at that when more info is available! - Dom

[@SierraThunder]

Well, we've already got a fairly detailed callout of it's offensive capabilities. Kind of makes you wonder just what would happen were Vadik were to shout out the order, "FIRE EVERYTHING WE'VE GOT!!" it would definitely make for a wonderful effects shot, and it might even cause the Borg to rethink their standard, "RESISTANCE IS FUTILE" mindset to perhaps more of a, "BUT THEN AGAIN, WE'D BE BETTER TO GO WITH LIVE & LET LIVE. DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU?"

[@Andrewcb112]

@Trek Central well we know that everytime it drops out of warp or creeps up behind an unsuspecting vessel, its giant space horn alerts you to the fact that death is now very much upon you

[@VanguardDetonados]

the srike sound excately like the tri pods from war of the worlds.

[@Captain.AmericaV1]

*If you look at the shrike, you'll notice it has what looks like a Galaxy Class deflector!!*

[@SierraThunder]

To me, the Shrike looks as though it's design was accomplished by raiding the fleet service & supply, plus salvage yards, and the ordnance/munitions depots of at least a dozen different species. But considering that the majority of the Shrike's personnel is more than likely comprised of a Founders Terrorist group, it would stand to reason that raiding any number of fleet service & supply, plus ordnance/munitions depots would have been reasonably easy tasks for them to complete.

[@dragonsword7370]

Did anybody get reminded of the NX-class of ships with the Phoenix' profile? Also I hope at least One had the "screaming chicken" on it.

[@Animalwon]

Commander Adam, I really enjoy when you host videos - Your sarcastic humor really comes thru with your audio talents (voice acting). Why don't you make more videos? (PLEASE DO!) I certainly would enjoy binging on your videos as podcasts while i drive!

[@paulnicholson5997]

Great channel, I've got to say that, Lt. Commander Adam, you sound like Kelsey Grammer. if I'm not mistaken, Grammer played Capt.Bateson of the starship Boseman in "Cause and Effect", one of the many great episodes. Thanks.

[@Tillman581]

As much as I liked the Eleos, it was the little shuttle that grabbed me. DS9 was my favorite of the series, and as such, while most were 'meh' one the runabouts, I just loved the things. So seeing a sleeker, sexier evolution of it was pretty cool ^_^ Honestly, would like to see a vid on them at some point ^_^

[@Jayjay-qe6um]

According to shipclass co-designer Doug Drexler, the production background history of the SS Eleos was that of an older, decommissioned Starfleet "Expeditionary Medical Ship" (EMS).

[@tatesmith9085]

Picard talked about Wesley Crusher. he was the one that came to the past to invite the clone into the travelers.

[@ryandbrotherton9335]

The thing about trek is that in a scene like this jumping from one ship to the next means blowing up somebody's memories. Good jobs folks.

[@alaincawley2983]

Not the captions saying (I'm not typing all of this...) during the opening of the video

[@shanenolan5625]

Cheers, Adam.

[@elviakerlick1163]

What's the box between the nacelles? On the Akira class it was a SUPER photon torpedo launcher. On the Akiraprise (NX class to doofs), it was a "warp anti-jiggly thing."

[@DeaconBlues117]

It's a warp anti-jiggly thing.

[@Beian-e5n]

Tiny starships are fine and dandy, as long as they never run into big ones. The design is gorgeous, but like the Oberth, so tiny and under-arned that it needed to keep to known safe routes in Federation territory or become a casualty like the Grissom.

[@kennyhagan5781]

Very nice,I especially like the weird catamaran boom connecting the extended edge. It looks like exactly what I need and I could manage a refit easily enough, Andorian coils on the shield emitter and some nice old fashioned phaser cannons would basically be it...... Let me know when there are two available, I have a need for escorts, something can be arranged I assure you.... As for Mariposa, aren't they the ones with the FEV, or am I getting universes mixed up?

[@yusrisaadun5497]

This small ship is beautiful,I'm imagining it to replace defiant class ship

[@That80sGuy1972]

So... Bev didn't even bother trying to salvage some of her stuff lost in space? Why bother collecting them in the first place then?

[@phunk8607]

Finally for a change we got an interesting good design ship on this show.

[@dameionwilson9359]

Interesting little ship

[@neilhaas]

Phoenix Class medical ship SS Eleos 12 interesting starship fascinating federation ship the Phoenix Class amazing.❤😊👍🤗

[@Mikerille]

I loved this ship, it’s practically an NX class, actually it looks nearly exactly like a hull and a half ship from ENT (intrepid class)

[@mrt1r]

They played something similar to D&D in Lower Decks

[@lunatickgeo]

I have a preference for smaller ships (like in Star Wars and Firefly) but prefer the Star Trek aesthetic and tech but Star Trek always seemed to lean more into larger vessels with large crews. Finding small ships in Star Trek was like panning for gold and I had to settle for shuttles, concept art, and fan art. Finally we have the Phoenix Class. I love this ship. I keep checking every few months to see if someone has done deck plans for it.

[@neves5083]

I like the design, reminds me of the NX01 "Quark industries" makes me so happy

[@MikMoen]

7:00 Well seeing a shuttlecraft did it for me, this ship is TINY. Basically a flying Clinic. I'd have expected a Hospital Ship.

[@kizzyarseneau5740]

It was a nice one

[@colinleat8309]

What a great idea, a D&D table on the bridge!! I love it ❤️ 🤣🖖😁🤘🇨🇦

[@keiyakins]

@9:35 I dont know about D&D but they have B&B: Bat'leths & BiHnuchs.

[@VERITAS-eh3pp]

Can you do Crusher's ship from "All good things"? The USS Pauster

[@Pirate85_Original]

It was the USS Pasteur... not Pauster. :) Love the Olympic Class... wish they had included this Modell in STO :/

[@christianmino4073]

TBH Nobody is talking about how great jack is holding up for someone who has literally just lost the only home they had ever known. He's only 24 (I think) so he's still a kid and its hard for a kid, let alone for anyone to lose everything. Even if they had escaped with their lives.

[@SierraThunder]

I dunno brother, that last scene of him in the head in "No Win Scenario", ST: Picard 03/04, he looks to be getting a mite crispy & brittle around the edges.

[@christianmino4073]

@@SierraThunder after losing the only home you’ve had which is the one special place you share with your mother nonetheless, if your not constantly crying and having panic attacks your holding up okay. That’s a big thing my man. I’m not saying he’s not sad just that he’s holding up well.

[@silversonic1]

Yet more evidence that Rios did have a significant impact on the timeline by staying in the past. It was where he was meant to be, even if only a handful of people would ever know the full extent. After all, he became a great husband and father, which helped them to reach the great heights they were meant to reach. And by doing that, their impact in healthcare would echo well into the 25th century, influencing Drs. Beverly and Jack Crusher. (Let's not forget that Jack has been practicing medicine. They just didn't beat us over the head with calling multiple characters Dr. Crusher.)

[@ZaGaijinSmash]

I want to know why the Shrike has a fog horn following it around that happens to go off every time it’s on screen. Must be quite annoying for the crew.

[@ryanh2621]

Nah its probably built in, gotta make vadic as annoying as possible after all

[@obsidiansands]

From the constant reloops of the video, it looks as if the Eleos has at least 2 deflector/sensor dishes like almost all science ships in Star Trek and in STO - you could see it peeking underneath the saucer section during some flybys. Every time I look at it, it feels like a Nova-class kitbashed with a Saber-Class and Freedom-Class ship in terms of size. The profile in some shots also remind me of the USS Franklin from Star Trek Beyond- now THAT was also a small ship with a minimal crew capacity.

[@andrewblanchard2398]

0:06 the close caption 😂

[@robshimer]

Didn't Wesley Crusher invent the repulsor bean while he was drunk?

[@Pirate85_Original]

Yep, he indeed did. :D

[@timelord2596]

I love Kelvin universe ships 😎

[@Elios0000]

i was amused because thats same way you say my handle only i spell it Elios lol. also to the do that have D & D like did you not watch Lower Decks? yes they do.

[@NeilBlumengarten]

Bat'leths & BiHnuchs!

[@robertelkins8915]

Yes. They had Dungeons & Dragons in Star Trek. Probably 1,1789th Edition though.

[@punksci6879]

They don't have D&D but they do have 3D&D on the holodeck.

[@NeilBlumengarten]

They do have Bat'leths & BiHnuchs

[@sigmacademy]

They are also into holonovels (the Doctor from Voyager became a holo-novelist/author if I remember correctly), plus I think there was a TNG episode where there was a game that had addictive qualities, plus Spock played that 3D chess game and Voyager had a scene where "orbital jumping" is a thing, but I think there are more "games" that can be played (role-playing via the holodeck being one of the obvious ones, but I'm sure I'm forgetting some mentions).

[@misterlau5246]

No offense intended Mr. Adam but the first words you said reminded me of : Are you ready, kids? Aye-aye, Captain! I can't hear you! Aye-aye, Captain!!! Vive en una piña debajo del mar Bob Esponja 🎶 😁🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖🤝😬🥺😟😞😈 I don't quite like this design but its not bad, I think it's just I don't like the 🤔 top part, saucer section. Reminded me of the Back to the Future #1 first time traveling system on the aft of the DeLorean

[@Rhino95X]

Is there D&D in Star Trek? Best question ever!

[@thebaccathatchews]

Star Trek ships are the Pokémon of science fiction. 😁

[@thepoormechanic]

Thier is d&d they were playing a klingon version In lower decks

[@butchdeloria2995]

9:31 Well in lower decks they have a type of klingon dnd

[@weaponx26]

add abaltive armour some pulse phase cannons and filll it with a squad of macos and add 3 more for an attack wing also replace the escape pods with self firing boarding craft .

[@slayer201277]

Reminds me of the Steamrunner class from first contact

[@Worldviewsandthoughts]

Looks like upgrade from the uss defiant, which was a science vessel.

[@STEVEBINNION1]

A medical ship with no lights 😂

[@leondillon8723]

1:00) It looks like the USS Enterprise(NX 01)Class. 8:21)ERROR. It is USS Enterprise-D (NCC 1701-D) Class. Several times Captain Picard said: "It is the first of it's kind." 11:52)How did Dr. Crusher get a son named Jack? On ST:TNG she was a widow with a teen age son. Did she keep some sperm in cold storage? Maybe Picard's son. In the final "ST:TNG episodes they were divorced. Her crew addresses her as Captain Picard.

[@FirstNameLastName-okayyoutube]

This ship was the first time i immediately spotted a size problem

[@shrek_428]

I swear, every time I watch this channel, I feel like I'm watching an episode of Frasier......

[@martins9831]

I like the Phaser Shotgun used by Beverly

[@madrabbit9007]

I really liked this little ship. I would enjoy seeing another one a little less trashed by a civie crew.

[@stephenfarthing3819]

Hmm! Interesting indeed.

[@joebrenes2003]

What's the roll bar like the type that you see in NASCAR

[@joelreyes4886]

Please cover the Archer class from the Vanguard novels 🖖🏾

[@lastationproductions]

It’s a pretty cool design

[@josephconner4756]

I love to see a Conner Class Starship.

[@majestyc0359]

I like this ship, hope it appears in STO.

[@pimpinaintdeadho]

LMFAO You're putting these set designers on blast 🤣

[@Solenum756]

D&D in the Star Trek universe would be amazing

[@kurtsnyder4752]

Wonder if Starfleet or other organization goes around to pick up the remnants. To stop any tech transfer and for bodies and just clean up to avoid possible Kessler events.

[@joebrenes2003]

Did it have a tow hitch hook to the roll bar

[@stars6531]

This class reminds me of the oberth class

[@Wagon-Burner]

I like this style of ship

[@joebrenes2003]

So where was the turbo mud flaps did it have a supercharger or a turbocharger

[@alanmike6883]

Captain what do you think about season 3?

[@therakshasan8547]

Vadic , and the ship in the alternate Star Trek universe Romulan mining ship , as well as the Undine ships were all variations of the ships in Babylon 5 . Undine look a lot like Vorlon ships , and the others variations on the Shadows .

[@DragoonMS]

The Eleos XII looks like a post-Nemesis era cross between the Miranda and NX classes. And there was a TOS version of the Phoenix class design?? Nice...now I wanna see how a TOS Movie Era version would look, though that'd probably look even MORE like a Miranda class - some variants did lack the rollbar component...

[@joebrenes2003]

And did it have a push bar to help push cars off the road

[@hooptiej]

also they indeed do have D&D data had a holoprogram with Gary Gygax, the inventor.

[@jasonparis5635]

What ever happened to the pasture?

[@jenniferstewarts4851]

The ship makes sense... though its likely not, or no longer, an actual "medical ship". Instead its more akin to a civilian cargo ship. Given that, yeah, the bridge would have displays for everything under the sun... operating with a crew of 4 or less, all crew members would likely be on the bridge... 5 or more and you might have crew in the engineering area too... but even then you would have to see all sorts of information on the bridge.

[@dominik8005]

Like the Eleos very much

[@hooptiej]

nacelles look to be kitbashed from Nova/quasar. pointed backwards and upside down.

[@rhysholdaway]

I think I want a Quark Industries TV show now!!!!

[@MrFreesearcher]

Rapid response, yet you have to charge the Warp engines first. Hold my Beer, while Archer flies by.

[@linz8291]

lol...or updates sliptime engine.

[@Jesusisking2785]

You know I wonder what a 007 inspired starship would like or an Aston db5 starship would look

[@InnSewerAnts]

I always wondered why so many people see the bridge being in a "vulnerable" position as a problem when it's pretty clearly shown on screen (until voy *sigh*) that weapon tech/yield has clearly outpaced any physical material's ability to withstand including starfleet's own weapon capabilities as early as Enterprise post-season 1. It literally doesn't matter if you'd put the bridge in the middle of everything for maximum physical protection. Without shields physical materials are flimsy compared to matter/antimatter explosions from a photon torpedo, entire ships get vaporised by a volley of torpedoes once shields are gone (with some leeway for hero-ship-plot-armour(tm)). Well unless it's the borg, they like cutting beams. Which if I may add, without effective shields, cut through ships like butter, again having the bridge bunkered deep inside the hull would make no difference.. Everything hinges (or should and did b4 late in voy) on shields from the moment using matter/antimatter weapons is a thing. Well until voy ... sighs again, bringing back physical armour as effective made no sense. Disruptors literally disrupt molecular and atomic bonds, guess what any kind of physical armour must be made of. I'm pretty sure the reasoning was visuals of course but it does make sense that you might as well put the bridge in the pretty design spots in a universe where without shields your entire ship is vapour rather easily anyway.

[@josephandrade816]

I saw that it was a similar class to the Enterprise nx01