Picard S1 E10 Data's Farewell

Data's final scene in the Picard series is an emotional one and one that he deserved. Data asks picard for one final favour, a promise that when Picard leaves he will delete Data's conscious so he can die peacefully.
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[@prestonbreen6835]

Of Data I can only say this. Of all the souls Picard has encountered in his travels, Data’s was the most… human

[@blinkenschnaag777]

@prestonbreen6835 You sound like Kirk in Spock's 𝚏𝚞𝚗𝚎𝚛𝚊𝚕🤣

[@right_hand_power7960]

​@@blinkenschnaag777I think that was the intention.

[@riogrande5761]

@@right_hand_power7960 Yep.

[@danielgage102]

@@blinkenschnaag777 1:51

[@WarGrowlmon18]

Data in Season 3: "I know that me is resting peacefully. But this me... this me would rather be no place else in the universe."

[@blinkenschnaag777]

He's Data "something else", as Geordie would put it

[@jameschou7342]

He is Data plus Lore, B4, Altan, Lal and wants to live with these combined experiences

[@Forge17]

@@blinkenschnaag777he’s still Data, having consumed Lore’s emotional capacity and possessing Soong, B4, and Lal’s memories :)

[@joe9739]

Ya the last we see if Data-Prime is in cyberspace with Lore. I imagine he's still at least 80% Data, just integrated the rest. DataLore Soong.

[@darkhighwayman1757]

It ​@@jameschou7342

[@jonwalton19]

I love Captain Picard. There are so many people in the human race that would kill to be immortal but he understands that death is a part of life and literally starts freaking out when he thinks that he's been made immortal. Wonderful human being

[@checkmate79]

Picard is dead. He would be so upset if he knew they made an Android based on him

[@ShepardCZ]

He would not be immortal, just as Data wasn't, considering he could be blown up by a Thalaron reactor or something :D

[@stevencorrea8032]

​@@checkmate79that's one way of seeing it but I think it's Consciousness was downloaded into this body

[@marcustiggs5361]

the look on data face when picard held his hand was surprised that his friend and captain was there to free him and say farewell

[@joannelouiserodriguez5966]

Farewell Mr data you be very sadly missed :(

[@Allenryan819]

hi form one year in the future he comes back.

[@Andysaid420]

He comes back in new form and saves the USS Titan and ultimately the federation from the changlings

[@joannelouiserodriguez5966]

@@Andysaid420 I do need to watch it all I stopped in season 1 half way through it at the time loved data tho

[@Andysaid420]

@@joannelouiserodriguez5966 I think you'll be pleased with how their later years have played out. Especially considering this is the end of their characters on screen.

[@joannelouiserodriguez5966]

@@Andysaid420 I found it sad its probably why I stopped watching it I loved my picard he seem to be totally the different captain to the one I grown up with it just seemed off I know I shouldn't expected TNG years but still 🥺

[@cyberstar251]

....good bye old friend. you were more human than most of us.

[@Strangedays612]

"That looking at the human race with all its violence and corruption...", remember the days when Picard said things like "In my century we don't succumb to revenge, we have a more evolved sensibility." So much for the old Star Trek optimism.

[@canadianaja8030]

Remember what Lily said to Picard: Lily Sloane: BULLSHIT! I saw the look your face when you shot those Borg on the Holodeck. You were almost ENJOYING it!. The humans in the 24th Century still were violent and nasty...they just hid it better and found craftier ways to express it.

[@Strangedays612]

@@canadianaja8030 eh, fair criticism as First Contact was made as Trek and DS9 was exploring dark themes:, however the bulk if not the entirety of TNG was about humans having progressed. It was optimistic. TNG was popular and continues to be well received even today, probably more than this series will be over time.

[@TheOnlyGBeast]

funny that you should quote that from First Contact, when picard himself was succumbing to revenge and anger towards the borg

[@LegacyArkGames]

That's what 90-something years spent in authority, witnessing others abuse that same authority, does to a person.

[@Strangedays612]

@@TheOnlyGBeast yes, Picard was assimilated, killed 10000 people, and still was able to snap himself out of it. My criticism is that this show has jumped the shark off traditional trek groundwork. I wish this was just a different sci-fi franchise. No need to attach "Star Trek" to it.

[@rosenti]

We leave our friends and those we love. Knowing these moments were fleeting and that... THAT was what made it beautiful.

[@TheRealMediaMan]

This does nothing for me. Data’s moment of becoming human was in his ultimate sacrifice for his friend in Nemesis

[@ChronoCritic]

I took it similar, but also this: Data's death in Nemesis should have been final, but Maddox forced Data's continued existence into something similar to a comatose state using what Data left behind in B-4. This Data, with neither a voice of his own nor a body with which to act out his will, asked his friend to let him go. Imagine dying of brain cancer, but then what was left of you was forced into a vegetative state for 20 years, and all that time past your own death you were aware of your existence, but could do nothing. Data asked to be left to rest, that his time had already passed. Picard let his friend finally rest.

[@jordanreed3675]

@@ChronoCriticI would have said in data’s cas being a mute man stuck into an iron lung

[@Forge17]

The writers completely misread the fan base. We hated and mourned Nemesis sudden killing off of Data, but Picard season 1 dangled the carrot of resurrecting him in the trailers only to give us another, more personal, way to see Data die willingly -_-

[@thephantasm581]

@@Forge17but in the end he’s back

[@Forge17]

@@thephantasm581 yes, but it wasn’t the plan at all. All the writers were replaced for season 3.

[@scottb7539]

I hope this is the final and fitting end to the character of Commander Data. May he rest in peace.

[@keenanwilkie7607]

aaaaand he is back.

[@WarGrowlmon18]

Data in Season 3: "I know that me is resting peacefully. But this me... this me would rather be no place else in the universe."

[@keenanwilkie7607]

@@WarGrowlmon18 Which was an obvious writer effort to preemptively head off criticism of undermining Data's season 1 wishes: establish that season 3's Data is a *different* Data and thus can have different desires.

[@WarGrowlmon18]

@@keenanwilkie7607 He truly is given that he's a combination of Data, Lore, B-4, Lal and whatever else Soong programmed into the Golem.

[@WarGrowlmon18]

As revealed in Star Trek Discovery, the Soong Method was used a few more times after Picard's resurrection, but the low success rate ultimately caused it to be abandoned. Dr. Hugh Culber later used it in the 32nd century to resurrect Gray Tal.

[@cunningsmile4166]

1:38

[@rorywilson656]

-That android was our last hope. - No... there is another.

[@WarGrowlmon18]

The end of Data... until his resurrection in Season 3.

[@madsquirrelmods3035]

“I can safely say that to know him was to love him, and to love him was to know him. Those who knew him loved him, while those who did not know him…loved him from afar.”

[@rikcab]

Love the ending, transforming into the birth of a new star.

[@dolphinsfan3245]

I cried. Couldn't help myself.

[@tek512]

I almost wonder if that image Data saw in his final moments was Picard's soul coming to comfort him in his final moments. After all, Star Trek acknowledged the existence of souls long ago. ...And Picard, the *real* Picard, is dead, even if the golem has his face and memories.

[@honorboundfate9521]

Carry on mister Data.

[@lganeshan86]

😢 Data wonderful Android with a human heart

[@WarGrowlmon18]

Data in Season 3: "I know that me is resting peacefully. But this me... this me would rather be no place else in the universe."

[@therizinosaurus214]

See how old Mccoy was in tng far point, Picard has another 30 40 years

[@lynettefeliciano4241]

I cried Data will always be human inside and out

[@Matty272]

And now he is.

[@SuperSnakePlissken]

Now that season 3 has completed it is nearly impossible to go back to season 1 and 2 they are just so awful. Everything Alex Kurtzman has made is just pure trash.

[@sanker20]

We all shared a tear for this one.

[@ShatnerLover]

Blue Skies playing is perfect, as much as I hate Nemesis.

[@Forge17]

How poorly the writers anticipated the fan base’s reaction to this season. We mourned and disliked Data’s sudden death in Nemesis and for 15 years, his journey felt cut short for many of us. This scene did nothing to satisfy those misgivings, even though it was poignant and emotional. But beyond that, seeing Data stuck in a little personal world and wanting to die.. not what we expected. Worst of all, Picard season 1’s trailer leaned on repeatedly showing Data which got our hopes up for his return.

[@SR71ABCD]

Died in the Mine Shaft Died on the Scimitar Died by System Failure Reborn through B-4 where there is a second life.

[@WarGrowlmon18]

Except that failed and B-4 was eventually dismantled. HOWEVER, later resurrected in a Golem body in Season 3.

[@missl1775]

If all his life Data wanted a child, and they literally have the skills to make him a perfect new body that's as humanlike as he could want, why did he choose to let his consciousness be deleted instead of coming back to his daughter? I know IRL Brett Spinner felt he was too old to continue playing Data, and he probably had other reasons not to reprise the role. But after Lal, after everything, it just feels wrong.

[@kuanged]

This is more believable. It is consistent as a "Data move". Having Data die also gives meaning and value to his life. More importantly to the audience it protects Data's legacy, the things we love about him. It makes his life a completed story with a happy, if not bittersweet, ending. If he lived on in a new body the writers would need to create new character arcs for him, which as George Lucas has often proven, can ruin the appeal of great characters.

[@AidanMillward]

Data wanted to be human, and by dying he would be able to do the most human thing of all.

[@jkta97]

I had the same complaint, despite the fact that I loved this bittersweet ending. If we had to justify it, my guess is that Maddox and Soong were in the process of building a new body for Data, but Data refused, as he did not want any special treatment over the living and would never have wanted to be brought back online in the first place. However, Maddox and Soong probably refused his requests to be taken offline, so Data reluctantly agreed to live in the simulation. Once Picard arrived in the simulation, Data realized his friend would ensure that his final wish would be carried out. It would have been nice to have a scene where Soji got to meet Data, but I like to think that she did finally get to meet him in a way (however briefly) as Soong, Agnes, and she were transferring Picard's consciousness into the simulation. He also might have wanted to stay alive long enough to get to the bottom of the conspiracy behind the synth ban. When Picard arrived, he knew his work was complete.

[@aurex8937]

Let me tell you of a man names Alex Kurtzman.

[@willt2810]

Those are not his daughter, Lal was , but these Androids was made using capture data, in other words, Data was a rape victim and the androids you see walking around are children force upon him by Bruce Maddox. So he feel no attachment for them , but he doesnt mind them. KEep in mind Bruce found data and kept him prisoner all this time. He use the capture data to create an android race for the Federation.

[@haleypierce82793]

Data your ok! Thank goodness. I absolutely love you. I wish you could have been around forever.

[@brians9508]

and . . . he's back. Again.

[@naughtyvalues]

Who wants to live forever

[@startrekiscool_123]

Me

[@James-nl6fu]

Immortality is very attractive. Right up to the moment, it becomes real. Then the nightmare begins

[@OptimusNiaa]

Yeah yeah yeah, a simulation copy of Data running on a computer was deactivated how beautiful. Anyway, so a couple years later at Daystrom Station...

[@MG-hw2db]

What the he'll did I just see? I never seen picard season 1, 2 .. I just saw picard season 3 episode 1

[@klein2042]

Yeah you didn't miss much lol, this shit was weird and just all around bad

[@WarGrowlmon18]

Data's consciousness was saved by his human "brother" in a simulation after his physical death. Data briefly communicated with Picard to ask him to terminate the simulation and end his existence for good which is what he just did. Oh and Picard died of his brain defect thing (first revealed in the TNG series finale) but was resurrected in what is effectively an android body.

[@klein2042]

@@WarGrowlmon18 It's all good though because he's back now

[@WarGrowlmon18]

@@klein2042 Exactly!!! As revealed in Star Trek Discovery, the Golem resurrection thing eventually became known as the Soong Method. However, it had a low success rate and it was eventually abandoned. In Season 4, Hugh Culber (mentioning Picard's resurrection as an example), uses it to resurrect Gray Tal.

[@riogrande5761]

This story gave me mixed emotions. Yes, it's sad, and Star Trek did something most series never do, provide an ending to a character or characters that most never do. It's both good and gad at the same time.

[@EarlJohn61]

But was it safe to remove those externa drives?

[@willt2810]

Well there was a couple of take away from this, first is that Picard died. The soul of Picard came back to usher his friend away. THe Picard we see now is a souless machine. Data has a soul which is unique for him and only him. Second- Bruce Maddox is a monster, no wonder Jurati got pardon for his death. Pretty much he secretly held onto Data neuro and did not tell the Federation. From that Neuron of Data he was able to reconstruct data and then examine him to his heart content. That is why the Federation suddenly had a influx of smart AI that had suspicious gold skin like Data. Its cause Bruce was able to study the captured data all these years that allow him to grow in leap and bounds. Data capture was so he wanted to die a free man.

[@tablescissors67]

Yes, yet why did Alton refer to Bruce as a ray of light in the darkness....like, what? Are we talking about the same guy??

[@MrSkillns]

Good bye Data. Our friend.

[@lukesvideogameletsplays4416]

Picard is alive but a corpse at the same time must be weird for him 😂

[@Xierra13]

Kirk said the same about spock a long long time ago...so the question is : is a human is more human than a vulcain or an android ...the question will always open to all kinds of feelings...

[@athansky25]

Picard next evolution: A Golem, an Android or a BORG maybe, an Avatar or X-Men Phoenix ? C'mon give the Captain his much deserved "Rest". Extending his life complicates it even more now that he has a son with Dr. Crusher.

[@daphneyandersen1235]

😢

[@Brain_quench]

How does unplugging 3 Flash Drives kill data? They don't have SharePoint or google cloud?

[@JimiLaPointe]

The whole thing is explained in the episode

[@sethnofcks6448]

@@JimiLaPointe not for free comrade

[@checkmate79]

Picard is dead. He would be so mad if he knew they made an Android based on him. 😢

[@Jalae]

don't worry, when patrick stewart is dead, the cycle will be complete. picard will be eternal

[@epickithri]

But would he really? The android of Picard even knowing he would have about as long of a life as he would without the brain abnormality even said he wouldn't have minded an extra 10 or 20. I don't think he's angry at all.

[@rayzermaniac5218]

They should have given Picard superpowers! This Golum was literally an all you can want plot device that could have been used to solve Picards age and inability to be part of action scenes. They could Matrix him with CGI. They even joke, "I wouldn't have minded 10 or 20 years".

[@obscure.reference]

just a cheap excuse to give Picard a “super sad death scene” without having consequences to the show or creating new problems. making him younger, making him do action scenes are primarily problems that production teams will have to face. this way literally nothing has changed!

[@DEATH111183]

@@obscure.reference don't forget they don't have the budget to get Tom Hardy to play a younger picard for this show, least not any more

[@noabsolutelynot3660]

@@obscure.reference he didn't get a sad death scene

[@obscure.reference]

@@noabsolutelynot3660 kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4e9m6OqZrNnbNE he literally does, and it’s trash

[@the_real_inquisitor]

Data dies and you worry about superpowers?

[@JasonWockenfuss]

I hope they Transfer all of data’s memories in a new soong type android I think just deleting data doesn’t make any sense

[@kliegl8613]

Nobody dying makes sense, bud.

[@guybaker2876]

i still think the red shirt is picards soul there to see Data through death. That the living picard is just a copy.

[@athansky25]

Yoda: Death is a natural part of Life. Rejoice for those who transform into the Force. This play around death, transcendental existence, immortality is really getting weird.

[@theryumancer9639]

The first 2 seasons of this show were crap. But this was one of the few things done justice.

[@Shadowkey392]

I’m not crying! YOURE crying! I just - I just have some dust in my eyes, that’s all! Shut up!

[@paulsmith9192]

Screw that picard,make me immortal. Ha.got games and movies wanna see

[@darcybrummett7004]

2:05 I guess he’s a descendent of Noonien Soong?

[@AisuSeijin]

STSP has conditioned me to associate this scene with deez nuts jokes, and I don't regret it.

[@michaelsublet3283]

Even if he was made immortal, he still has the ability and will to self terminate if he got tired of living.

[@carolynm8421]

I doesn't make sense for Data to die before his human friends. I don't think we ever had too see him die and stay dead except they didn't make another film. He was the best character not just in TNG but all of Star Trek. Also, where are the computer chips. He's still there, right? Did Picard destroy the chips?

[@LegacyArkGames]

Data's actor had wanted to retire the character for a long time. He was a bit tired of playing Data, and also felt that he was aging too much for the makeup to hide any longer. So, there's that and this being good timing for a final death. To answer your questions, Data was reconstructed by Bruce Maddox (the guy in "Measure of a Man" who tried to legally challenge Data's right to choose his own future) in terms of consciousness, not body. He existed in a simulated world, within that little machine. That's why he ultimately wanted to go, to leave on his own terms rather than as something Maddox stole.

[@astraworthington4348]

Data was absolutely the best character ever on Star Trek. Brent Spiner was robbed. He deserves EVERY AWARD there is.

[@WarGrowlmon18]

Nope. Soong later integrated him into a Golem body similar to Picard's with Lore, B-4 and Lal. Data has been resurrected!!!

[@startrekiscool_123]

3:34 3:35 3:36 he almost look like Khan 3:49 3:50 3:51

[@edwardandrews1381]

Are you sure that is DATA... ?? he looks suspiciously like Steven Seagal !!

[@startrekiscool_123]

2:51 2:56 3:34

[@plymouthbiker]

Reminds me of 2001 space Odyssey.

[@startrekiscool_123]

3:34 3:47 3:48

[@PatrickCrossfire.]

Why would an Android age?

[@startrekiscool_123]

Idk he not I think

[@Paranormalin416]

I seriously doubt they’ll still have vinyl records that far into the future.

[@SpookyScarySkeletor]

replicators exist so as long as they have the music they would be able to to put it on a vinyl. Yes, they would have the music as well because the previous shows established they have kept great records and recorded history of everything from events to ancient books and other such things. So an early modern century song is well within acceptable limits.

[@robertlouisburns]

I haven’t seen PICARD. How can Data be here when he was destroyed in NEMESIS?

[@Jalae]

so they can milk nostalgia and emotional feels for data's death a whole second time. most people watching this show honestly didn't watch nemisis.

[@tablescissors67]

It's complicated and a little convoluted, but Jalae isn't wrong. Essentially Data had downloaded his memories into the body of B4, which offered a vehicle for the character to continue to exist.

[@astraworthington4348]

I cried so hard I am not even ashamed to admit it

[@WarGrowlmon18]

Data in Season 3: "I know that me is resting peacefully. But this me... this me would rather be no place else in the universe."

[@the_real_inquisitor]

I hate ST Picard, it doesn't fit in the ST world, it's against Roddenberrys idea and it shows most characters wrong. But this moment, this one moment of Datas death. It was the same pain and sadness I feels as Spook died. And I cried. Really cried. Rest in peace Data. I really wish you the best. And I thank you for being such a great character.

[@infjintegrityvsnarcissism7295]

Season 3 is like TNG

[@markdillon5494]

Well this video didn't age well lol!

[@nickhartman6372]

So this is why Picard sucks now and is completely different....he died! And they replace him with an imperfect android.

[@WarGrowlmon18]

Actually, this has been a long time coming. The storyline of his death was set up in the TNG series finale: Picard's future self had this brain defect which essentially drove him senile. That's what Picard died of.

[@MarxistKnight]

“Looking at the human race with all its violence and corruption…” Proves how much the post-JJ Abram’s Star Trek is nothing like what Star Trek was meant to be.

[@aurex8937]

The human race is literally a peaceful, accepting and deeply moral force in Star Trek. In Nu Trek, they're basically a bunch of scared racist xenophobes.

[@the_real_inquisitor]

Truhe. I miss the real Star Trek. The Star Trek where the federation is more than a bunch of corrupt idiots. The Star Trek that shows a pride future. Peaceful. Honorable. Not this dark, grim stuff. Not this nonsense. Borg can breath in space because there don't need to. An the fuck how clean is this borg ship? That is not how there are supposed to look like. Amazon, I hope youre happy now. You destroyed Roddenberrys dream of a better further for what? Money? Quotes? Yes, humanity has corruption. But you are the reason. Not people who give there best to make it real, to make humanity better.

[@tablescissors67]

Why wouldn’t Alton (Soong's supposed biological son) not want to interact with the famous Data? Or vice versa? I mean, that's a huge opportunity in writing, and what is the point of Picard having a body transfer?? I mean, WHY create that specific plot? ... something, something synthetics and humanity's future? And if one had done such a thing, of course they'd bloody want to be young and have "super powers". Lol. I mean, if you're doing it at 94...why not go for gold??

[@random4969]

So why does Mr Data have to be put to sleep? Stupid ending

[@noabsolutelynot3660]

Because he wants to. Data always wanted to be human, have a human experience. Dying is part of that.

[@aurex8937]

Because Kurtzman is a moron and knows nothing about Star Trek.

[@aurex8937]

@@noabsolutelynot3660 Quoting Data from the TNG episode "The Measure of a Man." "I am the culmination of one man's dream. This is not ego or vanity, but when Doctor Soong created me, he added to the substance of the universe. If, by your experiments, I am destroyed, something unique - something wonderful - will be lost. I cannot permit that. I must protect his dream." That is Data as a character. And this "show" butchers the very essence of everything Trek, including the Federation, Picard and Data.

[@noabsolutelynot3660]

@@aurex8937 If you hadn't noticed, in this scenario data is no longer unique. There is now a race of him, as was discussed in Measure of a Man. So him being comfortable with death in this scenario holds with the information you present.

[@aurex8937]

@@noabsolutelynot3660 So, an individual is no longer precious and unique if there are others of his kin? And, speaking of Measure of a Man. Do you think it's believable or acceptable that, even after Picard helped define androids' rights, they ended up used as slave labor?

[@Sarvlosify]

Cried like a woman during this when I watched that episode

[@startrekiscool_123]

3:13 3:15 3:16

[@cuckoonut1208]

Bullshit.

[@I_leave_mean_comments]

I HATE shows that pretend that being immortal is somehow a bad thing. Ugh, such bullshit.

[@jet100a]

I agree

[@MarxistKnight]

Would you want to be immortal?? I couldn’t imagine anything more horrific.

[@jet100a]

@@MarxistKnight disagree. You say that until you face death and realize just how much you have to lose. Everyone who's jumped and lived to tell the tale has always said that they regretted it in the air.

[@josephroush8597]

Only a fool wants to live forever.

[@jet100a]

@@josephroush8597 only fools who aren't living or don't know how to live wish for their lives to end eventually.

[@temperedglass1130]

Awful show

[@heuristicalgorithm8465]

'Star Trek Picard: Botox Eyelids'

[@RaulCastillo]

squint harder pokie!