Picard Warns Against Witch Hunts & Mob Rule

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@septonyte
@septonyte 6 жыл бұрын
What this video points out is why Picard is one of my top fictional heroes. He doesn't hand out ass-kickings to the villain of the week, even if he totally could do that. He throws their ideals into their own faces in such a way that he teaches some of the best lessons one could learn in life to those on both side of the screen.
@freibier
@freibier 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly. That, and Patrick Stewart is a wonderful Shakespeare actor, which gives an automatic 100% bonus to all his speeches.
@joshuafogg6600
@joshuafogg6600 6 жыл бұрын
freibier If only he would follow the ideals of his character.
@madscientistshusta
@madscientistshusta 6 жыл бұрын
Septonyte this.
@Lost_n_Found_1
@Lost_n_Found_1 6 жыл бұрын
Zeithri That's quite the ignorant summarization of Jean Luc. Picard *is* morally superior to almost everyone he encounters- and as far as _gladly_ watching people die? Please. That's just absurd. I don't know what reality you're from, but I've seen him do everything in his power to avoid the loss of life time and time again, sometimes directly against orders. His judgment and discernment, along with his stellar command of officers, made for the finest research and diplomatic vessel human kind has ever known.
@ariesmight4141
@ariesmight4141 6 жыл бұрын
Picard is nothing but a coward. He uses words in a way, that they become a blanket. For him to hide under.
@blacrow7
@blacrow7 6 жыл бұрын
Picard also said this- No being is so important that they can usurp the rights of another.
@TheScionServe
@TheScionServe 4 жыл бұрын
Why did you quote that?
@dash4800
@dash4800 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheScionServe You really cant see how thats relevant?
@TheScionServe
@TheScionServe 3 жыл бұрын
@@dash4800 If you think it was meant to support abortion... TNG had a pro-life episode.
@ssssssssssssssssss50
@ssssssssssssssssss50 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheScionServe which one?
@TheScionServe
@TheScionServe 3 жыл бұрын
@@ssssssssssssssssss50 The child. But the right to life of a child doesn't ussurp the rights of the mother, jst as child support laws don't usurp the rights of the father.
@uomodonore245
@uomodonore245 6 жыл бұрын
At the time that episode aired, Western Civilization still understood such concepts as those discussed in the episode. How things have changed in the last 30 years.
@cashgamma
@cashgamma 5 жыл бұрын
Pshh, mid gulf war., ooooh k
@mononononononoke
@mononononononoke 5 жыл бұрын
No they didn’t.
@hardwirecars
@hardwirecars 5 жыл бұрын
we still understand it. mr gammon and ryan up there don't seem to understand that to error is human we all make mistakes.
@dubya85
@dubya85 4 жыл бұрын
you're triggering me
@Wolfen443
@Wolfen443 4 жыл бұрын
WITCH HUNTS ARE THE RULE NOW, I AGREE.
@robinj.9329
@robinj.9329 5 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite episodes! "Eternal vigilance is the price we must pay".
@JLOFlix
@JLOFlix 6 жыл бұрын
This was one of THE BEST POLITICAL COMMENTARIES AND PARALLELS that I have EVER witnessed!! Thank you Dave you're BRILLIANT!!
@whos-the-stiff
@whos-the-stiff 6 жыл бұрын
My absolute favourite TNG episode, that speech by Picard is so powerful and the words contained within it are so relevant. It's a pity that this is one of the episodes that flew under the radar, not having the whizz bang that most people prefer. Some of my fellow Trekkers don't even remember this episode, which is sad.
@davidmccarron2903
@davidmccarron2903 5 жыл бұрын
I agree! These are the type of episodes that makes TV shows worth watching over and over again!
@MrStoptheEU
@MrStoptheEU 5 жыл бұрын
I like the fact you have picard as your image :)
@NetherlandsFirst
@NetherlandsFirst 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think it flew under the radar, at least not among Trek fans. Even Vinesauce Joel (Vargskelethor) names this as his favorite episode, I believe. And he's not some kind of scholar.
@sasquatch2753
@sasquatch2753 6 жыл бұрын
And ST Discovery will be all about the witch hunts being moral and virtuous
@sirbattlecat
@sirbattlecat 5 жыл бұрын
Discovery is about cliches and shooting stuff. Nothing else.
@Tokmurok
@Tokmurok 4 жыл бұрын
Aaaand it was.
@Bonez0r
@Bonez0r 4 жыл бұрын
I never watched Discovery. But I saw this short clip and wept. It's a comparison between Discovery and TNG. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJ_PqaidoJiEmJI
@19buseye71
@19buseye71 5 жыл бұрын
This was one of the best of many episodes in the Star Trek : TNG series. I'm glad that I have them all on DVD.
@bubyCZ
@bubyCZ 3 жыл бұрын
You know what is the most ironic? I got banned in ST group because of posting this scene, ST TNG SCENE IN ST GROUP... the "Something that some people here do not realize how relevant today this is..." triggered one admin that banned anyone that had actual arguments against his blunt virtue signaling...
@horrorfan117
@horrorfan117 3 жыл бұрын
Funny. I had the same thing happen to me when I posted a quote from this episode, “The road from legitimate suspicion to rampant paranoia is far shorter than we believe.” when an admin started posting a ton of QAnon conspiracies. It’s almost like this episode’s point was to be wary of fanatics regardless of political affiliation.
@Argonnosi
@Argonnosi 2 жыл бұрын
@@horrorfan117 QAnon works as a wonderful canary in the coal mine. There are more people on the left who think people on the right take it seriously than there actually are. As a general rule, whoever starts up by taking a QAnon speaking point seriously has outed themselves as a bit of nut.
@hualni
@hualni 3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the Brett Kavanaugh hearings.
@blvp2145
@blvp2145 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, right when the hearings were about to end, Senator Dianne (ageing dinosaur )Feinstein dropped the H-bomb on everyone and made the hearings a complete sh!t show.
@kamand05
@kamand05 6 жыл бұрын
This is a perfect example of truly timeless writing/storytelling. This is the reason shows like TNG and Twilight Zone will last generations: like all mythology before, they touch on timeless parts of the human condition that we will always struggle with. Thanks for the video
@Willpower-74205
@Willpower-74205 2 жыл бұрын
Jean Simmons was also a big fan of the show, watching it with her friends and discussing it afterwards. I bet this episode made for some interesting conversations. 🖖😎👍
@b_g_c3281
@b_g_c3281 6 жыл бұрын
YESS YESS YESS!!! Excellent post!! "The Drumhead" is one of my ALLL-TIME favorites
@shinjiku01
@shinjiku01 6 жыл бұрын
Back when star trek was my favorite show.
@MasterMindWC
@MasterMindWC 5 жыл бұрын
This is why Picard is my scify Dad. Wisdom, truth, justice and loyalty are all things I learned from that character. This is the kind of shows current generations missed out on, if only they grew up as I did with this show, perhaps things could of been different.
@C-rations2394
@C-rations2394 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, Man. One of your best so far. And that's saying a lot. Thank you.
@stampede122
@stampede122 3 жыл бұрын
For the record, the 7th guarantee is Starfleet’s equivalent to the U.S 5th Amendment
@Halpin2006
@Halpin2006 6 жыл бұрын
Dave Cullen, ME LIKES YOU!! This same type of concept on reasoning also reminds me of the scene in Goodfellas, when Tommy keeps asking Henry "How am I funny?" After some manipulation, Henry realizes that Tommy is just pulling Henry's leg, and calls Tommy's bluff. In turn, Tommy laughs "I worry Henry. You may fold under questioning!" A sadly true fact, seeing as Tommy was just bullshitting around. Whereas police and FBI use many forms of deceit and manipulation in trying to probe for whatever they can, even if what they say is completely false. A technique not born from, but enhanced by, Nazism, and then McCarthyism! Satee's investigation is not only a fiasco, but also a complete FUBAR! And we all know what FUBAR stands for!
@Tall_Order
@Tall_Order 6 жыл бұрын
Taking a look at the Twitter accounts of most of the actors and writers of TNG tells you they mostly all fell into this very same trap and don't even realize it.
@SlippyMcDervish
@SlippyMcDervish 6 жыл бұрын
Literally just watched this one. Excellent episode. I love how Picard is never worried, and essentially turns the tables on her with ease. I love that man.
@bodox001
@bodox001 4 жыл бұрын
Just finished watching the show in it’s entirety. What an amazing show. Such compelling writing. I’m really sorry I was just a bit to young to get right into it at the time, but I’m older now and I can appreciate the absolute love that people and my dad, had for this show. Very very good writing.
@oldworldobserver
@oldworldobserver 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video essay
@SaulOhio
@SaulOhio 6 жыл бұрын
How many SJWs nodded and agreed when this episode aired, but are now doing exactly what Star Trek was warning us about?
@msbae
@msbae 6 жыл бұрын
All of them that were alive at the time this episode first aired.
@SaulOhio
@SaulOhio 2 жыл бұрын
Notice how Admiral Satie gets triggered like any Social Justice Warrior.
@GeorgeSaint666
@GeorgeSaint666 6 жыл бұрын
What a great observation!
@GlucoseAddict
@GlucoseAddict 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome episode, always a favourite.
@petergianakopoulos4926
@petergianakopoulos4926 6 жыл бұрын
This is a masterpiece of writing.
@ACGreyhound04
@ACGreyhound04 6 жыл бұрын
Many people on this thread seem so quick to point out that Patrick Stewart was just an actor, and that celebrities should not be confused with the characters they play (like Jean Luc Picard). They also shriek about how celebrities should stay out of politics, and “shut up and act”. Or sing, or throw a football, or whatever they do to get famous. How ironic is it, then, that so many of the people who say these things are the same sort of people who are most likely to be up to their eyeballs in hero worship for the phony celebrity “businessman” Donald Trump? The producers of Trump’s “Apprentice” show have admitted that they created a character for Trump to play, and his actions on the show were scripted to make him seem like a powerful, smart, decisive tycoon, because that’s what he imagined himself to be. In actual reality (as opposed to on a “reality-show”), Trump is a two-bit thug and failed trust fund baby who couldn’t even run his tiny family office, which never had more than a hundred employees at its largest. After he bankrupted that company for the SIXTH time in the mid-1990s, Donnie reached out in desperation to a collection of shady foreign mafia figures, who now dominate Donnie’s company, and let him and his moronic sons think they’re still in charge. Trump is nothing but a bad actor. Now he’s trying to act like a President, but the part is way too big for him, and he long ago lost the script. People who support him have a lot of nerve to criticize people like Stewart for being “just an actor”!!
@brandonshelp4682
@brandonshelp4682 Жыл бұрын
Modern Trek embodies what classic Trek warned against.
@Deliquescentinsight
@Deliquescentinsight 5 жыл бұрын
I have been re-watching TNG episodes, Netflix has them all and I was impressed all over again, this episode has a powerful truth - good call sir!
@realhumanbean7945
@realhumanbean7945 6 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@MrTimeless101
@MrTimeless101 6 жыл бұрын
Episodes like "the drumhead" is what made Star Trek great before JJ Abrams took it over. I always enjoyed the poetry and philosophy in many of the episodes, it was the thinking man's science fiction.
@michaelmcdaniel113
@michaelmcdaniel113 4 жыл бұрын
2019 - Picard is in a Federation Prison for "unspecified crimes" by an anonymous "Whistleblower", Worf is a zealous collaborator, and there is no Admiral Henry brave enough to stop the State's charade. The drumhead continues and the beat goes on...and on....
@ChristopherM720
@ChristopherM720 5 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel and subscribed. Great work!
@srki22
@srki22 5 жыл бұрын
This was happening a lot during McCarthyism and Res Scare in US. Also, it was happening all the time in communistic countries.
@LegatusLucius1994
@LegatusLucius1994 5 жыл бұрын
I have seen every Star Trek next Generation episode why do I not remember this this looks awesome
@acWeishan
@acWeishan 4 жыл бұрын
I would say Picard's speech is reminiscent of the "have you no decency.." speech that took down the McCarthy trails.
@kinorai
@kinorai 6 жыл бұрын
Star trek.... They really went where no one has gone before. Such a philosophical show.
@dogwklr
@dogwklr Жыл бұрын
These shows used to be seen as cheesy and silly by so many. They had proper writing and comolex plot arcs with often superb acting and production quality thag still hold up. Its a drama inaide a space show. Theme based, not box ticking for agendas. Classic situations of life delivered, the ledt must have used this as an instruction manual. How to hide among us haha
@kyrridas1573
@kyrridas1573 5 жыл бұрын
just like a lot of the comments, this is why i love star trek. the real thought-provoking, intelligent discussions that were more interesting than any ship explosion. i remember watching this episode as a kid, and thinking "yeah, she was just kind of a jerk"...but how REAL it is now. there's truly important wisdom here that everyone can learn from, especially today. and i really hope that one day, we can all reach this point of understanding. the Worfs of our culture that have bought into the madness will have their eyes opened. and when they do, we're here...arms wide...ready to have them back.
@paullyriseabove
@paullyriseabove 4 жыл бұрын
Great review. Timely.
@BookBurnersStuff
@BookBurnersStuff 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to add, that this episode speaks volumes about the way different people are perceived with distrust by default. How minorities are always the first to go after if we want to put blame on someone.
@willt2810
@willt2810 5 жыл бұрын
And the Picard show will have him reverse that.
@fredgarvinMP
@fredgarvinMP 5 жыл бұрын
When your only tool is a hammer, every problem starts to look like Social Justice Warriors.
@Mezcon2
@Mezcon2 5 жыл бұрын
I think of the censorship problems right now with Google, Facebook, Twitter and KZbin when I watch this episode.
@emperorconstantine1.361
@emperorconstantine1.361 2 жыл бұрын
This day and age, I think the Cardassian trial system seems to also be this day and age culture. And I think Kurtsman took one look at this and decided, “yeah, Picard bad”
@germanicelt
@germanicelt 6 жыл бұрын
I've been watching this show the past few years now. There's an episode in the first couple of seasons that resonates with Western society today, about the infiltration into positions of authority from an alien species who say they want peaceful coexistence.
@CheddarGetter
@CheddarGetter 6 жыл бұрын
Goddammit Dave! I need to see a video from you on Ron D Moore's Battlestar Galactica series! They did a similar episode after the water tank explosion and the secret about Cylon skin jobs came out. A tribunal to find out who did it goes all power crazy etc. Good episode. Great series. I'd say the best sci-fi and I'd LOVE to see an SJW try and disparage it.
@keiichimorisato98
@keiichimorisato98 6 жыл бұрын
Dan Larkin my only issue with BSG is that the camera was too cloose to the actors at all times that we never got to get a real look at the sets. I didn't care for it.
@CheddarGetter
@CheddarGetter 6 жыл бұрын
keiichimorisato98 yeah that's called Cinema verite. The point was that it was a character drama and that the sets and all that weren't what was important. Once they started showing the Cylon POV tho it totally pulled the camera back. Show had growing pains for sure. Also, if that's your ONLY issue, seems like an endorsement lol.
@mjbull5156
@mjbull5156 6 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is, it turns out the tribunal was on the right track, albeit for the wrong reasons. Also, for all the high moral language Adama protested the actions of the tribunal with, he stops it for the pragmatic reason of needing the Chief free to keep the Vipers and Raptors flying.
@JamesPawson
@JamesPawson 6 жыл бұрын
Women in the workplace, man.
@50calBeowulf
@50calBeowulf 6 жыл бұрын
Love hearing your insights Bro, keep up the good work.
@cecilharmon1832
@cecilharmon1832 3 жыл бұрын
Completely awesome episode
@JackTGreat
@JackTGreat 2 жыл бұрын
It's too bad Patrick Stewart never saw this episode.
@mdyoung1971
@mdyoung1971 5 жыл бұрын
In present day, Admiral Satee sounds a lot like Jerry Nadler and Schiff.
@Denazon
@Denazon 6 жыл бұрын
Good message
@x64600
@x64600 6 жыл бұрын
ST:TNG remains to be the greatest Star Trek production, For story, Actors, Characters, & Design. This Ep is one of the best. I could not imagine the current production ownership in charge of the Star Trek IP, making anything even half as good as ST:TNG. They seriously need to watch this series, and learn from Picard. Watch Picard, and learn. Before they try for the reboot series currently in the works. - Yes, if you have not heard, they are planning on rebooting, for a new star trek series. To be aired on CBS.
@wlbn6954
@wlbn6954 6 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favourite TNG episodes.
@CosmicDuskWolf
@CosmicDuskWolf 2 жыл бұрын
Which hunts seem to be a common thing with people always looking for someone to deem a heretic and burn. It is clear with the current times that there are people out there who want to destroy anyone who doesn't think how they do.
@John_Conner222
@John_Conner222 5 жыл бұрын
7:29 I have been whistle blowing this for a long time. I had a friend long con me (over the course of a year or two) out of alot of money and when I went to confront him I found he had beaten his girlfriend, taken the money and fled. People don't want to listen anymore, they want to wave their flag of ego and show how right they think they are and win the shouting contest, not realising they are in extreme danger and putting other people in danger by doing so. I wish there was a way to show them so that they could see the error of their ways before its too late, before people have to get hurt. That has always been my goal, of finding a way to change peoples minds without having to suffer enormous consequences before they are forced to change due to extreme circumstances.
@khukri_wielderxxx1962
@khukri_wielderxxx1962 4 жыл бұрын
That was some of the best writing and acting in TV history
@loki8284
@loki8284 6 жыл бұрын
That was what made The Next Generation a great series. Good writing makes the show and the message timeless.
@aurorauplinks4703
@aurorauplinks4703 6 жыл бұрын
Gene Roddenberry was always a helpful influence for good stories, except a few, he kept them focused on moral quandaries over easy battles
@BadficReadings
@BadficReadings 5 жыл бұрын
Totally, TNG, DS9 and Voyager all contain such timeless messages, as does Enterprise. I cannot speak for the original series having never actually sat and watched it, nor for Discovery, which I haven't gotten around to yet, but I am sure similar will be present there too, Starfleet principals are Starfleet principals. Star Trek is so much more than just a regular sci-fi show, because it gives us such nuggets of moral wisdom and truth.
@desertfoxcartoon
@desertfoxcartoon 5 жыл бұрын
@@BadficReadings After Gene Roddenberry left and Rick Berman took over those messages weren't explored as much but still happened, followed by JJ Abrams who's like Michael Bay and just likes explosions. Enterprise went back to the Star Trek roots as was very good, Discovery is another generic Sci-Fi action flick with the Star Trek label.
@BadficReadings
@BadficReadings 5 жыл бұрын
@@desertfoxcartoon That sounds really disappointing :( If that's the case why not make a whole new franchise rather than ruin an existing one.
@desertfoxcartoon
@desertfoxcartoon 5 жыл бұрын
@@BadficReadings I agree, keep watching the Original, Next Gen, DS9, and Enterprise (and Voyager if you feel like it), but the Reboot movies and Discovery aren't good as Star Trek titles. Gene Roddenberry had a great vision, Rick Berman did his best to continue it, JJ Abrams abandoned it completely. They label it Star Trek to cash in on the existing franchise, it's for money.
@maxbootstrap7397
@maxbootstrap7397 6 жыл бұрын
It is interesting to find such relevant warnings in old StarTrek series. This is a good example why we watch these series many times over the years.
@thepayne7862
@thepayne7862 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly and the same thing can be said about a lot of episodes of the Twilight Zone.
@remo687
@remo687 6 жыл бұрын
max bootstrap That's what makes something a true classic, a timeless element about it that can be appreciated for all time.
@maxbootstrap7397
@maxbootstrap7397 6 жыл бұрын
+Carlos : Yes indeed. Add your observation to a great many other defects in the intellectual disease called STD.
@mitchellalexander9162
@mitchellalexander9162 6 жыл бұрын
Eh. The Orville is better.
@VGamingJunkieVT
@VGamingJunkieVT 6 жыл бұрын
History keeps repeating itself, this Social Justice crap is just Witch Trials with a new name. Then again, so is McCarthyism.
@Dabs19840607
@Dabs19840607 6 жыл бұрын
This is Star Trek, stories about the human condition, and the ability to overcome. Class act.
@kdemetter
@kdemetter 6 жыл бұрын
So I'm not the only one who gets my morals from Star Trek TNG ?
@MiaogisTeas
@MiaogisTeas 5 жыл бұрын
Hell no, I totally did. Picard on TV, Aragorn in writing, Obi Wan in film. Not saying I'm even close, but they're decent ideals to live up to.
@neelpatel3844
@neelpatel3844 5 жыл бұрын
I got mine from there too.
@Fermion.
@Fermion. 5 жыл бұрын
I got my morals from TOS. I'm now a convicted sex offender. Thanks Kirk!
@TheTuubster
@TheTuubster 4 жыл бұрын
Why not going to the source and getting your morals from the human rights declaration?
@cunningsmile4166
@cunningsmile4166 4 жыл бұрын
This is the only Star Trek to me
@bustervoodoo8125
@bustervoodoo8125 6 жыл бұрын
This really accentuates how awful Discovery is. Not even an attempt at examining morality or anything though-provoking, just aimless "sci-fi" nonsense.
@nashf5925
@nashf5925 5 жыл бұрын
oh look lazers....
@cashgamma
@cashgamma 5 жыл бұрын
go tell it on the mountain then... the mountain answers "......" I rest my case.
@madmandanschannel
@madmandanschannel 5 жыл бұрын
Watch out for the mycelial bark. It’s a doozy.
@scottmantooth8785
@scottmantooth8785 5 жыл бұрын
an over reliance on techno-babble and SJW acceptance...yeah, that makes any script or narrative memorable and classic
@Bonez0r
@Bonez0r 4 жыл бұрын
I never watched Discovery. But I saw this short clip and wept. It's a comparison between Discovery and TNG. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJ_PqaidoJiEmJI By the way, shout out to that channel's owner, Grin, who makes hilarious TNG edits. He uses different channels because they keep getting deleted, but here's a playlist that still works: kzbin.info/aero/PLlufnbwO60O6LqAcCeu0UaTZJ2FXJsBn5 . The first few are a bit clumsy, but it gets better.
@Rhamsody
@Rhamsody 4 жыл бұрын
Holy crap. I've forgotten when good writing sounded like. Not a single gunshot. No pandering. No identity politics. JUST GOOD WRITING. I miss thirty years ago...
@tuseroni6085
@tuseroni6085 3 жыл бұрын
i think its because it has such memorable conversations but no "mic drop" moment which seems to be what writing aspires to these days, mic drop moments do well on social media, but are really very shallow and tribal, but a generation who grew up on social media thinks thats how discussions should be, that the point is to own the other side.
@TriniKnight01
@TriniKnight01 2 жыл бұрын
No 'identity politics' in an episode where not one but two characters' ethnic backgrounds or heritage are a factor in presuming guilt. Right. Really, the comment says more about the bias of the OP than it does about the actual episode.
@Paul-ly5ht
@Paul-ly5ht 2 жыл бұрын
You realize this episode was written to critique not only racism/bigotry but also McCarthyism, right?
@tperfect7241
@tperfect7241 2 жыл бұрын
​@@TriniKnight01 you obviously missed the point of the episode.
@tracksuitcheems
@tracksuitcheems Жыл бұрын
​@@TriniKnight01 disingenuous much?
@a.thompson5518
@a.thompson5518 6 жыл бұрын
"Mister Worf, villains who twirl their moustaches are easy to spot. Those who clothe themselves in good deeds are well camouflaged." A more detailed quote to the other saying, "Ignorance is bliss" Truest words ever spoken.
@CornerTalker
@CornerTalker 4 жыл бұрын
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
@simonmasbaum8399
@simonmasbaum8399 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the only part of this episode that I've remembered over the years. I've always done my best to incorporate it into my life, as we all should, but of course, who can be sure that their best is enough...
@saquist
@saquist 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video Some believe this episode was only about McCarthism but that's a surface level interpretation. This is in every way a broad warning against all types of witch hunts and the dangers of abusing due process.
@MoriMemento117
@MoriMemento117 6 жыл бұрын
That scene between the ethical Picard and the honourable Worf has always been etched in my memory ever since I was a kid. To see such giants of tradition and morality basically express their own frailty and ignorance - to see them admit what kind of creature they each could become if they let themselves be consumed by their lust for justice and order. It made me think very long and hard about myself. I mean, Picard is a god of reason and ethics... and even he was afraid of himself. "Vigilance is the price we pay."
@piotrd.4850
@piotrd.4850 4 жыл бұрын
This is best observaton on the episode - I must admit, that even as ardent fan, I haven't noticed how well Worf character was used here!
@simonmasbaum8399
@simonmasbaum8399 4 жыл бұрын
This exchange was really the only part of this episode that really stuck with me over the years and as much as I have tried to internalize it I still remember that I am human and can still be fooled, probably much more easily than I realize. That's why, even when hearing someone I strongly agree with, like Sargon or even Dave himself, I try to stay vigilant for points and arguments that, deep down, I disagree with, as part of my mechanism for keeping my worldview honest. But I must always remember that even this mechanism is fallible.
@cavetrollvillageidiot3095
@cavetrollvillageidiot3095 2 жыл бұрын
I have granted this comment the 69th like.
@goryguy5106
@goryguy5106 2 жыл бұрын
It's a warning to people on all sides of the political spectrum; from the far-right to the far-left. And more so. As a recovering addict, I was asked if I would like to speak to a graduating class of young medical students who were entering into the field of treating people like myself. I pulled a classic James Randi magic trick on them: I first began speaking with a pen near my mouth, as if it were a mic. When I set it down, they had a bit of a laugh. I'd fooled them. A little while later, I removed my glasses. Lensless ones, and replaced them with my actual glasses. Fooled them twice. No matter how intelligent, educated, intuitive, or bright you are, a simple drug addict can fool you. You can always be fooled. Do you trust me now?
@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701
@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701 6 жыл бұрын
Slapping people harder in the face than anyone ever could with his bare fist just through EPIC speeches!? Picard at his BEST
@marionmorrison2854
@marionmorrison2854 6 жыл бұрын
Worf's father wasn't a traitor. He was framed by Durass and Worf let it happen to stop civil war. He and Picard both knew but it was a secret. Till Worf buried a blade in Durass' chest like he was chopping wood. It was Durass' father that was the traitor. Durass' sisters would cause the civil war later on anyway. Man, I've seen this one more times than I can count. It's one of my favorites. But I hadn't connected it to all this garbage over recent years until your video. Thank you.
@Zeakthecat
@Zeakthecat 6 жыл бұрын
Internal vilgiance is the price we all pay for freedom - picard Couldn't have said it better myself
@archstanton9073
@archstanton9073 6 жыл бұрын
Eternal vigilance.
@patrickfrost9405
@patrickfrost9405 6 жыл бұрын
Well said, video game goddess.
@doxenking3899
@doxenking3899 6 жыл бұрын
I don't want to be that guy, but it's spelled eternal not internal. mistakes happen so no big deal.
@JakkFrost1
@JakkFrost1 6 жыл бұрын
But as RPGStylee said earlier in the thread, _internal_ vigilance is a good thing too.
@Xantheus07
@Xantheus07 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but RACIST shouldnt have the right to free speech. Oh also SHUT UP YOU RACIST NAZI HOMOPHOBE FUCK TRUMP REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
@garomcfbgdd3211
@garomcfbgdd3211 6 жыл бұрын
Remember when Star Trek was about liberal ethics and morals Pepperidge farm remembers
@cashgamma
@cashgamma 5 жыл бұрын
FOR THE WIN!
@flyingpaladin617
@flyingpaladin617 5 жыл бұрын
Where is Pepperidge farm?
@keddievanhalen
@keddievanhalen 5 жыл бұрын
To the point where even todays non liberals like myself still found hope in it...yes
@scottmantooth8785
@scottmantooth8785 5 жыл бұрын
brilliant
@AlexanderCheff
@AlexanderCheff 5 жыл бұрын
Remember when liberalism was about liberal morals?
@saewonyi
@saewonyi 4 жыл бұрын
How disappointing that Discovery and Picard makes a complete mockery of the optimistic and hopeful world of Roddenberry
@TankdozerCavalry
@TankdozerCavalry 5 жыл бұрын
4:50 Something that's overlooked by this video are the nuances of just HOW FAR admiral Sati goes. When Captain Picard was assimilated by the borg in an earlier episode, he was physically damaged and psychologically traumatised and required "several weeks of intense therapy" (as per Memory Alpha). The borg/damage issue is explored further in a separate episode and shows just the trauma Jean-Luc had to put up with. Admiral Sati's blatant disregard for the sensitive issues surrounding Picard's character and lack of decency or care for the medical wellbeing of another human being is a bone-chilling window into how far people are willing to go to uphold even the IMAGE of justice. Truly, the complexity of Picard's character is one of the greatest accomplishments of Star Trek writing. (For the love of god, I can't remember which episode, leave a note if you do!)
@BioGoji-zm5ph
@BioGoji-zm5ph 4 жыл бұрын
And then all of that trauma he endured finally came back to him when the Borg began assimilating his crew on the Enterprise-E in First Contact, and he finally snapped. I know some people think that Picard was out of character in that movie, but I view his OOC moments as kind of the point, since he never truly got over the whole Locutus thing.
@karenhall4645
@karenhall4645 7 ай бұрын
When Sati mentions his experience with the Borg, I've always thought nobody could stoop any lower than that.
@chaoticgood1776
@chaoticgood1776 6 жыл бұрын
I see Picard in the thumbnail, I click. Awesome, as always Dave. Muah!!
@theimp67
@theimp67 6 жыл бұрын
This was an excellent episode to review, and I remember it well. The parallels with today are disturbing. We have many villains but few of them are twirling moustaches.
@Rich_Man101
@Rich_Man101 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent review of an excellent episode of TNG! Thank you!
@gondorknight83
@gondorknight83 4 жыл бұрын
"It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts". -Sherlock Holmes
@SpiderEternal
@SpiderEternal 6 жыл бұрын
Having rewatched all of TNG last year, I regret not writing down all the episodes that slaughter the arguments of the authoritarians of today. There are many, and they are fabulous. Great video! I encourage you to do more. :)
@bigbone1369
@bigbone1369 6 жыл бұрын
Star Trek The Next Generation is one of my favorite TV shows of all time.
@rightofcenter1977
@rightofcenter1977 5 жыл бұрын
christopher bonner - it’s gotten better with age, imho.
@the_narthex
@the_narthex 6 жыл бұрын
One of the many Picard face palms in that episode.
@NichoTBE
@NichoTBE 4 жыл бұрын
this is why i loved TNG, today's star trek is so dumb in comparison
@cleverwitticismhere6922
@cleverwitticismhere6922 6 жыл бұрын
The Next Generation is full of fantastic quotes and wisdom. Even with its age, it's one of the best series I've ever seen. It blends education and entertainment flawlessly.
@JonatasAdoM
@JonatasAdoM 6 жыл бұрын
"The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing" Also "As soon as men decide that all means are permitted to fight an evil, then their good becomes indistinguishable from the evil that they set out to destroy."
@IRQ1Conflict
@IRQ1Conflict 6 жыл бұрын
This must be where the term "drummed out of the military" came from.
@Zontar82
@Zontar82 6 жыл бұрын
none of this is present in that Discovery travesty.. on a side note; here there is a reason on why Picard is believed to be "traiterous" when he was under the borg's control..but from now on the matter became a little too overused..Like sisko in the first ds9 episode, when he holds a grudge against picard for the loss of his family. IT WASN'T HIM. he was under control of the borg so it wasn't his fault! why people kept on accusing him of something that was beyond his control?
@SciFiFan2012
@SciFiFan2012 6 жыл бұрын
Zontar82 Sisko was bitter, angry that his wife died, and the Borg caused it and Picard just so happened to be assimilated. He could have been just as mad if Wesley Crusher had been Locutus.
@Starvino
@Starvino 6 жыл бұрын
Unless one has been assimilated, it’s unlikely that they’d fully understand the fact that you have no part in it. Or, you angrily look at him as a symbol of the destruction, since it was Picard’s knowledge that aided the Borg. People didn’t trust Seven at first, and the only reason they didn’t treat her worse is because it wasn’t her face literally on the view screen as the crew members were almost killed in battle, as Sisko was
@nobrains6107
@nobrains6107 6 жыл бұрын
Compare the way Picard was forgiven for that with the reaction to Ash in Discovery - and in the comments about that incident in various youtube videos - and it seems that society has become a lot less forgiving towards men in just a few years.
@Starvino
@Starvino 6 жыл бұрын
Is there backlash to Tyler? I don't have anything against him, though I'd understand if Stamets does. He'd be in a similar place to Sisko. "Yeah I doubt we'll be citing episodes of STD 20 years from now when discussing topics of the moment." Yes we will: Drama Teacher: ok, we have just watched ST:TNG and how it masterfully portrayed *Insert social issue*. Now, can you provide an example of a show that shit the bed in regards to social commentary? *kid who grew up watching std*: I've been preparing my who life for this!
@Starvino
@Starvino 6 жыл бұрын
Josef Nagy I meant public backlash to Ash. But then, I don’t really care about the doctor, so maybe I’m just biased in whether Ash should get fan hate for his actions, though I haven’t seen anything. The crew has every right to be suspicious, Saru made a good choice in at least restricting Ash, although it didn’t go far enough. And if people want to forgive him, that’s good I suppose. But to expect a smart decision from the crew that let Mudd go is like expecting a dead horse to respond to your kicks.
@UltimateBargains
@UltimateBargains Жыл бұрын
*"The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants." -- Albert Camus*
@therockreviews9007
@therockreviews9007 6 жыл бұрын
Picard has always been the man. Lovr star trek
@georgemargaris
@georgemargaris 6 жыл бұрын
Eternal vigilance ...
@ephemispriest8069
@ephemispriest8069 5 жыл бұрын
It feels like every year that goes by there is more meaning to be found in the futurism of the past.
@Poglavnit_Pferdefuhrer
@Poglavnit_Pferdefuhrer 5 жыл бұрын
Uh, that is like, the *entire* point of futurism, haha. "Umberto Boccioni, Giacomo Balla, Gino Severini, Carlo Carrà, Giorgio Morandi, Emilio Pettoruti, Aleksandra Ekster, Vsevolod Meyerhold, Valentine de Saint-Point, Joseph Stella, Marcel Janco, Marisa Mori, Amadeo de Souza Cardoso, Isaac Asimov" Don't just look at the art and sculpture, read their writings! the reason modern sci-fi sucks is they keep discarding all "the old masters"
@umeng2002
@umeng2002 4 жыл бұрын
The irony is that Star Trek was considered a bit left-wing back in the day.
@OddityUnleashed
@OddityUnleashed 4 жыл бұрын
@Ricardo Santos I beg to differ; the borg were communist not Star Fleet
@johntousseau9380
@johntousseau9380 4 жыл бұрын
I fail to see the irony. There's nothing right wing about it. You could say it's left wing from our current social-political climate, but it isn't a "left-wing" show either.
@ssjwes
@ssjwes 4 жыл бұрын
It still is. They had men in dresses, same sex relationships, non binary love interest. ST is liberal in the real sense of the word not the political optics. Not to mention the other things already discussed here.
@foxymetroid
@foxymetroid 2 жыл бұрын
It still is. The stories take place in a setting where the sheer availability of food and resources has rendered Capitalism effectively pointless within the Federation, though the Ferengi will hold onto poorly-regulated Capitalism until the day they die. @Sean Foster: Maybe Communist isn't the right word for the Borg so much as "super-organism". A super-organism is when a group of individual organisms act like a single organism. An example would be an ant colony a hive of bees.
@DrPhibes10
@DrPhibes10 6 жыл бұрын
The road to hell is paved with good intentions
@jasonbrown4526
@jasonbrown4526 4 жыл бұрын
Star Trek The Next Generation is a legend of television.
@JL8421
@JL8421 6 жыл бұрын
Can we seriously not just sit down, shut up, and enjoy the damn show? Why does everything have to have a fucking political allegory? It's a TV show from the late 80's/early 90's people, relax. I'm a big fan, but I see all these comments saying left wing/SJW this, right wing that....I don't know. It just drives me crazy because I love Star Trek so much, just as an entertaining sci-fi show and I don't understand why it really needs to be seen as anything much more than that.
@raybarry4307
@raybarry4307 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps those in the White House should get some popcorn and watch
@nuclearrabbit1
@nuclearrabbit1 5 жыл бұрын
This show and Picard became my moral compass in life.
@TheAutistWhisperer
@TheAutistWhisperer 6 жыл бұрын
Ah drum head, a classic episode.
@unclelink
@unclelink 6 жыл бұрын
TheAutistWhisperer Himiko! A villain you can't hate!
@mikestanmore2614
@mikestanmore2614 6 жыл бұрын
All good science fiction refects the strengths and vulnerabilities of humanity. Well chosen, Dave.
@ThatSoddingGamer
@ThatSoddingGamer 6 жыл бұрын
Looking at the comments, I just want to say it's not a 'left' or a 'right' thing. People like that exist in all places, championing all sorts of opinions and causes. They are the hypocrites, the grandstanders, the false champions. They say what *some* people want to hear, and it gives them power. What they say *sounds* good in a way, but their actions can betray them, as it did in this case, where an 'arbiter of truth' (so to speak) presumed naught but villainy in everyone that didn't agree with her. They are the 'nice guys' who are misogynists, they are the 'freedom and truth' champions that are suspicious of anyone different than their own narrow definition of 'us'. They are those that think themselves above decency because they have 'right' on their side. Sadly, a lot of commenters are rather missing the point.
@zacktrever1878
@zacktrever1878 5 жыл бұрын
This is why Star Trek Next Gen was the *SHIT!* My bread and butter in the 90s (same as married with children, simpsons and seinfeld)
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