Picking the WORST CARRY MATCHUP POSSIBLE!! (3k Educational Smurf Ep.13)

[@bananaslamjamma]

Educational Smurf Playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PLZ7yVl4cw_Jtj6xyCCPHONluxCtP5PA7i

[@happy_thinking]

Amazing content on how to play the map and avoid your hero's weaknesses while taking advantage of their strengths. The only thing I disagree with is PA being a bad pick here. While it's true that PA's gameplan is countered by their draft it is also true that their team is very low on disables and most of their damage is right-click physical damage which is something PA excels against. P.S I would consider PA a bad pick vs 1.High burst heroes Lina, Lion, Morph, Puck, SF, etc 2.Heroes that have a BKB disable Axe, Beastmaster 3. Any natural MKB builder. (even though the item is kinda bad now)

[@Perschi1716]

@@happy_thinking I agree. In my opinion its a pretty much free Pa game. Pa is literally immune to 45% of their damage. She one shots the squishy supports. Generally there is no thread at all to be bursted. Main thread is the enemies finishing the game pre 25 minutes with TA blink deso bkb timing, but thats not gonna happen in pubs with broken tower split shot gyph

[@SviatoslavDamaschin]

@BananaSlamJamma Btw they fixed the corruption stacking with manta since hoodwink was introduced

[@MultiLastebil]

Love this series!

[@AdamJLoh]

I noticed that the Ancients are not attacking you at 15:55mins. Is this normal?

[@ProducShuns]

These have to be hands down the best DotA tutorials available. Valve should hire BSJ to do official tutorials in game, have a whole series on the fundamentals.

[@blaze4lifedog]

monkeys forever also does a lot of awesome guides for offlane heroes

[@bananaslamjamma]

@@blaze4lifedog True!

[@norbs9858]

And should be a requirement together with the 100 hours before being able to do rank.. That would make the game more enjoyable for players would know what dota really is.

[@keriahenta]

@@norbs9858 they did that hahah

[@4timebtb]

@@keriahenta they made it mostly against the boosters

[@MongolToro]

I was the Zeus, thanks for the carry BSJ

[@ryanintoro1575]

no i am the zeus man

[@MrLeaff]

No I am the zeus

[@adzanlotfy1685]

I was the pudge

[@lokestrofe9360]

I was bsj

[@TheisExplainsHowTo]

Guys, we were all the zeus

[@33shin33]

BSJ please read this ---> The part where you explain "so normally against Bane Silencer [...]" THAT IS TYPE OF CONTENT WE WOULD APPRECIATE, how you have this amazing lecture of how the game is gonna go so fast into the drafting, THAT IS A SUBJECT NO ONE TALKS ABOUT AND YET IT'S SO IMPORTANT, EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED PLEASE DO MORE THANK YOU

[@wilsonborbaneto3003]

BSJ listen to this guy, more educational draft videos are always welcomed. In low mmrs where everyone plays like shit picking the correct hero matters a lot!

[@thecipher8495]

@@wilsonborbaneto3003 i mean if you play a lot of dota and think about the enemy heroes strengths you can pinpoint your own heroes weakness, given you have some 1k hrs or more on the game

[@gabrielalves2198]

BSJ trying to make things difficult in these smurf games, i love it!

[@tsuol7296]

we love it

[@AverageDiamondPlayer]

@Salyh Charyyarov im late but he means bsj makes the game more difficult by picking a bad hero for that particular game

[@brettt141]

BSJ ruining games by smurfing and ruining his teams game by picking the worst carry

[@Arunpaarthi]

Zeus found that it is bsj who is playing by his voice :)

[@Leo_Dewa]

What time

[@Bassin247]

@@Leo_Dewa @30:15

[@Leo_Dewa]

@@Bassin247 31:55 actually

[@Bassin247]

@@Leo_Dewa lol nice

[@MongolToro]

I found out when he said “ i have abbysal”

[@youtubesucksspotifyshallri9600]

Zeus is gonna watch this video and be spongebob when he was in that commercial “THERE I AM GARY”

[@chrismcgarry3160]

"Picking a bad lane + game matchup" Very cool way to spice up an already excellent series! Love it! Very clean gameplay! Also good way to become more flexible on certain heroes. 32:42 Dat Rosh attempt by Dire though XD

[@huskymane23]

these videos really have me torn. on one hand theyre super helpful in learning the small details of the game, but on the other hand they basically promote the main problem this game has... smurfing. sucks that five dudes basically had no chance because they had a 9k in their 3k game.

[@cole8209]

9:44 ah yes, the classic tangos power spike

[@BaufenBeast]

Hey man, anything can be a power spike.

[@cole8209]

@@BaufenBeast lol i know, the way he said it was just funny to me

[@alexmiron3296]

Remember when i got my powerspike at min 50 , it was a branch. i was Mk sitting on it :)

[@MC-nt7jz]

@@alexmiron3296sounds sus

[@kimiesta]

I feel like a huge factor in these games is the fact that 1. Your macro understanding of the game is really good 2. You remain calm no matter what, 4 heroes in your lane, it's fine. You die, it's fine. The lovely thing about the lower ranked games is if you remain calm, and stick to a game plan, you can win more often than not, or atleast thats what ive found over the last few months. Also getting a teammate back from tilt is a huge huge win

[@samuelelias5115]

You can't stick a plan if you don't have one. Low MMR players don't have one, and thus tilt when things go wrong.

[@jqa16]

1st time watching a bsj vid unironically. I'm a 6k pos 4/2 player his patience in farming and waiting for creepwaves while blurred are impossible for me to even fathom cuz i wanna fight every minute.. Really educational and relaxing few dota players does a relaxing content.

[@GuiltyCasuals]

PA Warlock is my favorite subtle combo. Overkill damage fully applies with fatal bonds so if you end up critting when creeps are low hp it still does heavy damage.

[@AkshaySheth568]

I love this type of smurf series more. You aren't owning from min 1 & giving people a chance to get stronger. This is beautiful.

[@hassannoor6185]

This game is beautifull. I think warlock also did a good job and didnot make things harder other than not pulling

[@xhrora4294]

I really learn a lot from all of your smurfing videos over other's smurfing videos. I appreciate the effort you put in to try and get a disadvantage match up/ game, I learn the most from these with your commentary and decision making. I have moved from crusader to ancient with your help. Thank you for your videos! Keep them coming (keep an eye-out in immortal for me in the not so distance future).

[@KRterrorKR123]

I hate how easy this looks. Your movement, analyses and discipline from 27:25 - 30:19 is brilliant and is definitely something I need to work on when I feel like there is nothing to do at that moment

[@SaintsRow4President]

I absolutely love these educational smurf videos, keep them coming! :D

[@aiz-tv]

31:55 Zeus recognized BSJ's voice xD

[@HattonGames]

31:55 busted

[@AndrejIzAwesome]

lmao Hatton wassup? I see you stopped making csgo content, back to dota maybe?

[@beepoasa]

😂

[@arcanuke3294]

BSJ out here trying to get kali's account banned.

[@dhannesalhafizd05]

Didnt see anything

[@WingsHype]

Where's more auto tune videos

[@chinguunssi1523]

Finally, my favorite series from BSJ. Hopefully next game is support :)

[@Fastnik1]

Haven´t watched all of it yet, but i already know this is golden Content! Keep it up bro

[@GiulianoDeStefano]

This is exactly what the community of Dota (incl. me ofc) needs more of - educational and thoroughly explained videos on different scenarios. Every game is different and one has to act accordingly to the (constant changing) parameters of the game. To you and a few other Dota content creators - thank you for your service 🙂

[@naqibr93]

31:56 Pa sound like BSJ? Hahahahaha true enough!

[@rami.antoun]

You can do anything to your teammates using their portrait :P quite useful when you have illu heroes like pl on your team and u wanna forcestaff or veil the real one amidst his illusions

[@SteveBoyer10]

Whoa I did not know this

[@jacep9147]

Game changer!!!! Thanks :D

[@thecipher8495]

yeah also for agha giving as alchemist, idk if it still works but any item like aghs and shard can be shared globally by using the portraits

[@abedeen4072]

Love the idea BSJ the video is appreciated a lot!

[@slickmullet3891]

I love these countered smurf games. Their are super educational. Also, it looks like your cover was blown in the post game chat lol. I can relate all too well with the person who said “Pa is the reason I’m going to quit dota” lol. PA stomps just feels so demoralizing 🤪

[@soldieroftruth77]

27:25 you can take your own outpost back without having one of their teir 2's (your team actually takes it back a few seconds later)

[@Antido0]

it doesnt matter, its not min 10 20 30 40, usually you take it on the last seconds to not let the enemy take it back in time

[@soldieroftruth77]

@@Antido0 I’m just responding to what he said. “We can’t take that without a tier 2.”

[@TheStoso2]

@@Antido0 the gold and experience aren't the reason you would want an outpost

[@Antido0]

@@soldieroftruth77 youre right mb and yes it is the reason to take the outpost, gives literally an extra tome to everyone every 10 mins, being able to tp on it is a plus

[@youtubeguy9529]

MVP wooden branch for surviving the longest time

[@14tigerboy]

Things that go well with my morning coffee: Overwatch replays and some new BSJ content

[@stealthb0y1]

just got to 3.6k from 1.4k by applying bsj instructions.. i love you man

[@kahiew4919]

The np and silencer are clearly taking way too much damage from the warlock, which is pretty Pog by warlock

[@pupi_]

Heeey look at me i'm the hoodwink! lmao. Thanks for the content as always man!

[@dondok7179]

“Pa is the reason im gonna quit dota”

[@arpitpatel5312]

he probably meant smurfing BSJ not the hero PA in particular

[@21minus1]

@@arpitpatel5312 he meant smurfs in general, not bsj in particular

[@sumoluke95]

@@21minus1 and he is completely right. My games at legends are like this all the time. Either I have a smurf with a lvl 25 dota account in enemy team or my team. I lose games and don't know why, and I win games and don't know why.

[@sleepLess33]

@@sumoluke95 i know right.. i cant get out on legend xD,

[@DJ-cm8xj]

@@sumoluke95 hey I understand smurfs can make it difficult, but I recommend a few things. 1, try adding them to learn more. 2. Try observing what plays they make and why, so you can use it in future games, and 3. Make a habit every game to check profiles for possible smurfs, and if they appear to be. I'd focus shutting them down asap. Ik they are annoying, but when you learn from them you can get out faster, rather than being defeated because they were in the game. No matter how many bans are done, smurfs are a part of dota, so we gotta adapt

[@shubhamrana9196]

Bsj, deals 1.5k damage. Also bsj: I don't have any damage items.

[@SayNoobB4ULeave]

that sums up PA pretty well

[@BaufenBeast]

Crit numbers are pre-armor reduction though; manta isn't that much lower than desolator for damage, but there's a big difference between a 1.5k crit and a 1.5k crit with -6 armor.

[@vincent78433]

that's what happens when you are like 10k+ and 5+ levels ahead of everyone else in the game

[@Antido0]

its more because enemy heros didnt build armor, just look at everyone itembuild nobody thought of going ac against a PA that is purely phys damage...

[@roronoazoro-lh1jz]

Yes he can't kill with out crit so no damage

[@1who4me]

Just a suggestion- Kami probably has really high behavior score. Would be interesting if you do one of these with a bad behavior score account.

[@PurexOvvnage8888]

more people like this comment so bsj sees :)

[@benhmn]

One of his smurf games was with a 2800 behavior score or something like that. MMR and behavior score were about the same :p

[@KralZltko]

Guys is there info somewhere about that behavior score you talk about? Seems i missed something :)

[@zeusfingers2266]

Thank you for playing into a bad match up. I really like seeing how you adjust to bad situations. I've been first picking Jakiro since your smurf, and learning how to play against counters has been the most challenging part. Would love to see more content like this.

[@stefano3652]

31:55 AH! GOT HIM.

[@yashgaur9619]

Hey man, really appreciate the content. Thanks for showing deeper understanding of the game.

[@fireghost6895]

Omg, he called the smoke gank. Holy shit BSJ is a god!

[@ranjeevpauluzzi9597]

I hate the fact that I can't do this, he is just too calm, I feel I am still there focusing last hitting while he have planned the game min 0

[@slickmullet3891]

Practice practice practice

[@zagteam442]

For him this isn't a hard game do he doesn't have to think hard. When he is playing his games and playing from behind he would not have such a clear plan

[@slickmullet3891]

@@zagteam442 that’s the whole point

[@nimamousavi9281]

this content deserves more

[@kuzzingo9493]

RIP Jelly, 2021. You were so young my sweet!

[@derpybird612]

As a Guardian it feels weird knowing that smurfing still happens at this mmr.

[@sidthepathan1198]

I feel like I gained mmr by just watching this video

[@lockekappa500]

"I'm gonna max out my blur, I dont think the other two talents are great early." Is already 4 into dagger and phantom strike. KEK

[@thecipher8495]

the 1st talent is dog crap tho, better to do 3 lvl in blur or max than pick the talents (the 500 range on strike is for aggressive plays so it depends on current items) for maximum defense

[@stefandili2650]

I was the carry. Thanks for the BJ Zeus.

[@crookedlycrooked9256]

BSJ IS A GOD SUB TO BSJ THIS IS A COMMENT FOR THE ALGORITHM I HAD NOTHING TO SAY

[@Sil3ntNinja01]

I watched this and the video where you discuss the Quick attack setting and I just got a rampage because of it. I can't believe how simple the ideas of simply farming efficiently, not feeding, and map awareness are. Thank you 😊 My first rampage btw and I'm herald 3 so 1.8k more

[@135791max]

"PA doesnt usually build manta and they have a silencer, thusly this is a bad matchup". Completely ignoring the fact that the enemy team has literally 4 right click heroes, only 2 stuns total (one of those being a channeled stun with a several minute CD), and literally no catch for if you just blink away... top tier analysis from a 9k who didn't know you were able to capture your own outposts back.

[@soka2973]

You are the best bsj, so helpful always. Keep it on my brother

[@Miniac]

BSJ, it seems like the creeps respond INSTANTLY when you A-click an enemy hero. For me, the only react when I'm a certain distance away. I often have to get to close and then they get right clicks on me. What's the difference?

[@Waxnell]

You have to be a certain distance from the hero. (and the creeps, but the creep distance is far ish, just gotta be close enough to the hero)

[@Miniac]

@@Waxnell I've seen Topson definsively creep aggro top lane right clicking a hero midlane from top. It was in a recent BSJ video. How does that work?

[@borsuck13]

I am curious as well

[@JugoBoss3]

You have to be in 500 range FROM THE CREEP for it to aggro, BSJ has a long video talking about creep aggro from the time he was in Gameleap, look it up if you are interested.

[@catedoge3206]

@@Miniac creep aggro is global. periodt.

[@job8]

Although it's hard to do so, this is even more teaching than usually. Wow

[@justintimbersaw3934]

The point is playing with low-rank player is tough because they panic and wants to rush things. My MMR is 9400 but when I played my brother's account, it was on a different level. Naga is a foolproof carry. I got a bad start cuz as you know, pos 5 roaming. You don't see that in the Immortal tier. And when I jungle, they always ping to teamfight and when I ignored and keep on farming, they blame and shit. They always panic. But as soon as I got manta and orchid, I started to make play and when that happened, they want me to push and end the game even tho I couldn't take hit yet. They always rush things. I'm like "geez! relax bro. I can win for you, just don't die." Naga can split push, cut wave, start teamfight and dodge teamfight. It's a foolproof carry in low rank but sadly, some kids don't even bother spend 10 mins to watch tutorials on micro control illusion, hence you rarely see this hero in low rank.

[@seankimbrough8489]

GJ, BSJ!

[@johnbentley2331]

Hahahahaha. "So...I'll pick PA." That was so funny. Good comedic timing.

[@araaramlbb746]

I was the ward 🙌🏻 Thanks for carrying me

[@majinbuubs111]

Can anyone explain why/how radiant is able to see whatever spell is cast in the rosh pit at 32:40?

[@MultiLastebil]

7:34 How do you lane against Warlock then?

[@philipprower5931]

Bsj do you believe going Orb of Corrosion would also have worked out this game for early fighting?

[@HrusticOmer]

Giving jelly on a hero portrait is the only thing I knew about dota that BJS didn't . And it's always a good jelly game

[@melford634]

Hmmm he literally said “to those who don’t know you can use the portrait to use the jelly on a hero” did i hear it wrong?

[@DeadlyShadow7]

14:40 i just knew/learned that you can use jelly globally :D this makes it even simpler :D ty for all thos occasional little things, im sure there will always be someone that didnt know, whatever it is :)

[@kurthu2]

You can actually use all allied targeted spells/items using the hero portrait as well! Very useful for stuff like oracle ult and other saves when your carry is an illusion hero like pl so that you don't accidentally misclick. It's also useful for casting glimmer, nightmare, etc. for an allied hero that's currently getting tiny tossed because the hero model is hard to click on.

[@GadBoDag]

These explanations are so helpful, amazing vid

[@fatiguejras]

It would be nice of you to say which carry would be best vs such lineup as well

[@j3y445]

I think something needs to be said about bf components. I feel like in some games its good to go for the perseverance stuff first, but in others its better to get the dmg ones. Like in lanes where they just don't do much damage or are very passive I would probably go dmg over ring. IDK just a thought. Love the video BSJ!

[@lokestrofe9360]

KZbin please help BSJ, thanks. Also, thanks BSJ. Amazing content.

[@GetZaved]

When you use manta for farming/pushing purposes, should you tread switch for the mana or stick on agi for the damage?

[@justinroy3769]

depends, keep in mind which ever attribute your treads are on are the ones the illusions will take. Meaning if you manta on agi treads then the illusions have bonus agility, if you manta on int treads then they have bonus int so yeah up to u honestly. Bsj was using manta to push out the waves so made more sense have them on agi for bonus attk speed since bonus mana wouldnt do anything on illusions

[@ctoan_]

No need to tread switch for manta if you're PA with battlefury. But if you're anti mage, yes you have to. Because am has mana issues

[@sumoluke95]

playing on legend rank is amazing. every 2nd game you get completely stomped by a lvl25 dota account. and the next game you get carried by a lvl25 dota account. Smurfs everywhere, don't even know why i'm losing or winning.

[@dominikcrepic3345]

Last talent daggers? Isnt coup de gra much more powerful?

[@arashiranfar858]

It might be cool to estimate the win probability and how much confidence you have in your game in the early to midgame... Some kind of self evaluation before the actual fights and pushes happen Thanks for the great content

[@Silent_Tentacle]

If it weren't for the need for armor in this game is it more conventional to go 1 wraith band into orb of corrosion? That's usually my go-to item for winning my lane as a PA.

[@thecipher8495]

yes

[@TrainingMacro]

Do you have any 3k games where you draw your lane and the other lane feeds 0-9?

[@kevintamk]

When would you choose phase boots over treads in PA? I love phase on PA and hare the treads on PA

[@chossmedia]

You can re-capture your own outpost if you haven't killed a tier 2 tower yet

[@Rockycm1]

Smoke ganks happen quite often in SEA sever's 1kmmr bracket.

[@jacep9147]

Best Dota series on KZbin! FACT.

[@kevinmcgovern5388]

Great video

[@michaelmckeon8100]

great vid!

[@nebonumberone]

that was nice to watch

[@Drowbert]

did they leave the cheese in rosh pit last time?

[@robbyheckman7813]

Do you have examples of what other heroes would be bad against their team? And do you have recommendations of good heroes against their team?

[@DuduRossetto]

I'm going around a lot of these "new" (at least new to me) youtube dota2 channels like BSJ, monkeys, Insania and qoqjva and typing the same for the algoithym: give this man more views and money

[@StriderGG]

Glad you like the channels! I do BSJs and monkeys, and my friend Shani does qoqjva and insania :) so the styles will likely be similar across those channels

[@rafaelskiarteportfolio1098]

thanks man! great content again

[@chion6432]

Imagine if you were trying to make this guide and your teammates recognized that your pick was banned and just started feeding the enemy

[@dlegend1123]

Love this idea on purposely pick a bad hero in smurfing game

[@PatwasPolska]

I really like this series

[@Esbbbb]

If only all the pos1 players in my teams would watch this... :D

[@ZachisSublime]

Good stuff BSJ

[@jazminvalencia9202]

I actually played with that Zeus guy several times, he always loses mid lmao

[@SteveBoyer10]

Learned a ton, thanks BSJ

[@赴大家惡化不得好死時]

12:21 double crit the creeps and after that 15 hits on heroes not a single crit... reminds me of my games

[@benjaminrouvier4616]

ok i didnt understand the logic behind the bf (didnt watch the all video yet) if the goal of the ennemie team is to pressure and push early doesn't bf just exacerbate this problem since not only will you be weak when they ll be strong by nature of pa, but also because you will have basically no items for the first 20 min of the game? wouldn't a more early fighting build be better to sustain early pressure, and then just use the fact that pa deals tonnes of dmg late game as scaling? if ennemie game plan works (which should since as you said, none of your hero stop them to doing it), haven't you already lost by the time you get your bf (exept if ennemies suck enough for you to go late game)?

[@arbater1501]

definitely think you're on to something here. I think the reason it works here is because he is a superior farmer/player and gets items before the enemy at a lower caliber. I think he's trying his best to make smurf games seem realistic but there really isn't anyway to do this besides his replay reviews of individuals actually playing at that mmr caliber.

[@benjaminrouvier4616]

@@arbater1501 that's my though too but i'm not really a good player so i wont pretend i know better than him ^^ but nonetheless there is clearly something i didnt get in the reasonning behind bf

[@phunweng962]

you do make sense.

[@benjaminrouvier4616]

@@phunweng962 it s really easy to falsely make sense when you re missing informations, so let's see if someone can explain the bf

[@simonroger565]

His gameplan was getting huge before fighting. If you have no interest in fighting or you're sure going into early fights will kill you(against bane for example),you probably just go full farming mode(and build)

[@Slateproc]

Don't forget, your armor talent attacks with manta illusions

[@Saad-vo8nk]

Keep it up bro!

[@hwdp2558]

33:40 yea right you bought it because it's flashy xd

[@UmbraAtrox_]

Has been probably asked 1000 times already, but how is this map called? And can one still buy it?

[@TheCoolflameboi]

Great vid! Id love to see a hero that would be good in a fast pased line up, somboy who would help a team push earlier than usual

[@SnigernDK]

What was the animation which revealed they were in Rosh?

[@ChrisStoneinator]

As I recall (watched it yesterday) it was a Prophet ult, which wouldn't hit Rosh unless he was visible.

[@kuzzingo9493]

giving my boy a comment for the street cred!

[@dominicmacinnes6451]

Taught me how good fatal bonds is vs treants. Is it really the worst matchup? x)