PIKE FISHING: Fluorocarbon vs Wire Leader CHALLENGE (does it matter?) 🤔

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In this video we take on the most requested challenge ever - fluorocarbon vs wire leaders. Does is make any difference? Will you catch more fish with any of them? Let's find out...
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[@petmalpetmal3280]

Not that it matters to me but if you gonna compare the leaders use the same lure on both setups!

[@dannysheath6881]

Exactly! None of it matters I imagine, but at least make it an actual comparison!

[@georgigobg]

And count pike attacks only. Comparing fish landed is irrelevant in my opinion.

[@Djdldp]

Do 24h challenge pontus and mille vs team galant

[@kanalgratisdotse]

We’re gonna CRUSH ’em! 🔥

[@sebastianbodin3058]

Utmana dom 😊

[@elvislee7686]

Pontus and Mille all day everyday!!!!

[@fredrikstromsholm5762]

Hard baits vs plastics next?

[@kanalgratisdotse]

Will do, really looking forward to that! 😍

[@Djdldp]

Ja do this in 24h challengen ni vs team galant i första halvan av dagen får nån ha hårt och andra halvan gummi

[@Norgeolli]

Nice Video! Well done Mille and Pontus. I‘m fishing Fluocarbon, but i think it doesn‘t make no different for Pike fishing. But perch are very sensible when u use an strong leader. Next Episode Time to catch the Big ones!✌️😊 Greez Olli

[@skedadle_]

I believe it definitely matters when it comes to perch fishing, because when I use wire leader I have seen perch actually biting at the leader multiple times. And this was in very very dark water with low visibility, maybe 30cm of visibility.

[@Michel-sz1jd]

Nice Challange. You are great. More of this Stuff please. Greetings from Germany .

[@tibbeatjshm]

The real mythbuster will make a casting and reeling machine😜. And the same setup, rod, reel, line and the lure. Oow oow and i bet the made it explode somehow😂

[@kanalgratisdotse]

There’s also a thing called trolling 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@tibbeatjshm]

kanalgratisdotse no that would have been too easy for them😝

[@gothooked]

Nice B rolls! Awesome fishing guys!

[@mc_jan3598]

Always fun to watch you both fishing👍 tomorrow finally I drive to Sweden for holiday I hope I'm preperd with your videos to catch some nice fish 🎣🇸🇪💪

[@kanalgratisdotse]

Thanks, we’re glad to hear that! Tight lines! 🎣🐊

[@lurespl]

Dziękuję za polskie napisy! ;)

[@novcor]

Another great video from kanalgratis.se thank You 🎣🍻

[@kanalgratisdotse]

Thank YOU! ❤️

[@goodolmanny8198]

I've had more action just running straight braid to be honest. But I did get a blow up on a top water lure running steel leader recently and I've had lots of follows with flouro leader. I've caught most of my pike on straight braid tho. Even in clear water.

[@jean-francoismarinot2793]

When fishing waters with a lot of pikes and limited fishing pressure, fluorocarbon doesn’t really bring any advantage. I am fishing in Sweden, Ireland and Canada and I have never experienced a big difference. The most important thing is how you manage your lure and its action. However, when the water is cold and you need to fish quite slowly, if the pikes are a bit cautious and the water gin clear, then fluorcarbon can make the difference. It is nevertheless important to think about pike safety first and to use « heavy » fluorocarbon traces when requested.

[@kanalgratisdotse]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, I totally agree! Next time we’ll try this in cold and clear water... cheers!

[@ilyascherbakov]

Totally agree. Cold clear water is where fluocarbon leader truly shines. Also IMO the challenge would be less biased if you would exchange set-ups with each other after every fish caught or after certain time, say every 15-20 min or so, so that each of you have fished with both fluocarbon and wire leaders. Great footage and fun video, thank you guys and cheers from Canada!

[@ontariobasshunter3841]

If you are so impressed with the megabass, bass reels. I suggest you check put the daiwa steez

[@leswhynin913]

I normally use steel or titanium leaders when targeting bike, but I am considering using heavy fluorocarbon leaders when I am fishing for other species (e.g. walleye) but pike are a potential by-catch.

[@Pikestar88]

Topwaterfishing-Challenge pls😉 Love your Videos. Keep it going. Greetings from germany🎣

[@kanalgratisdotse]

In the next video I’ll try a really cool topwater pike lure... ;) Thanks for watching and your nice comment! /Pontus

Very beautiful pike. You are absolutely in Top in the World

[@kanalgratisdotse]

Thanks! ❤️

[@kanalgratisdotse]

Thanks! ❤️

[@rokka5273]

do 24h challenge. Chatterbait hardstyle is so powerfull. greeting from france

[@noahlindqvist1380]

Yes do a species challenge!

[@davidh6652]

What break setting do you use on your 13 fishing concept a3 reel?

[@SwedePelle]

YEEES! Gör 24 hours species challange snälla!

[@CristiNeagu]

You should have definitely used a smaller gauge wire leader. Fluorocarbon needs to be thick to hold up to a pike, but wire doesn't.

[@deaddex1]

Grattis till 150k prenumeranter!!!

[@kanalgratisdotse]

Tack!!! ❤️

[@Fksu]

Awesome!!

[@dodsfiske9474]

24h challenge 🤩🐟

[@adamskitheangler3631]

Bit late to the debate, but thanks for uploading. I'd love to see this repeated with much lighter wire traces and fluorocarbon as I feel like there's a breaking strain at which your leader becomes off-putting regardless of whether it's wire or fluoro. If you did a series of challenges with lighter leaders, you might be able to identify where that kicks in.

[@kos7941]

Much lighter fluoro wouldnt be any good at stopping biteoffs. Heavy fluoro for heavy lures. Not point throwing 150lb fluoro on a 30g lure

[@BasicFishingNZ]

not sure if this has been requested b4 but i think ur next challenge should b shore fisho vs boat fisho haha awesome video btw

[@kanalgratisdotse]

Thanks for the idea and for watching! 😀

[@filipgoluch8669]

Very nice movie, I like it. I am waiting for the next one and thanks for the Polish subtitles :D

[@kanalgratisdotse]

Thanks, we’re glad you like it! 😀

[@user-ks1qq4we9x]

Nice!!!

[@tuomokoskelo8163]

No nyt on tekemisen meininki, "fish on" ja 1:20 kelalla niin nopeasti kuin vain kerkiää kelaamaan, bum, mitä fiilistelyä. Kukapa nyt väsytellä jaksais järeillä veiveillä, wau !

[@FISHINGFERNANDO]

nice pike!!

[@Fred117able]

Heard about you from Scarnafishing ! Your channel is awesome !

[@kanalgratisdotse]

That’s cool, thanks! 😀

[@andrewmetzger4167]

And the states are looking at Sweden for inspiration and technique, euro tackle has options that are not available in the states and some of it works great.

[@kanalgratisdotse]

Cool! Yeah, especially pike fishing has come a long way over here. For perch we’re still looking a lot at you guys and all your cool bass techniques.

[@jeffburnham6611]

I was looking in the video description but maybe I missed it. What were using for your main line: mono, braid or FC? What strength?

[@sebastianbodin3058]

Ja snälla gör en sån challange 😂💪

[@fishingforfun3317]

Fluorocarbon seems to work better 🧜‍♂️

Big Boys 👌😉👍

[@mswen1983]

Fish rely less on eyesight than people seem to believe. They tend to forget that water bends light and distorts colors. In addition, pike and musky often hunt in thick weeds or dingy water.

[@Hogbellylife]

24hour challenge 👍👍👍👍

[@lukaswint7067]

Just started to use FC first day fishing with it today. No fish so far lol

[@idopassmann2132]

The app had the species recognition wrong though. Yellow perch looks very similar to european perch, but is native to north america.

[@Vissenbijdewaterkant]

Wire Leader is the winner with less fishes than 50 percent in this video 13:52 21:05 Mille is the best!!!! :-P

[@MistrZIGZAG]

If it makes no difference I’ll go with wire all day. In Saskatchewan it’s not uncommon to tango with a 20-30 pound pike every so often. Flouro wouldn’t stand a chance against those teeth.

[@philrichter3161]

That's just it, pick your gear as if the world record fish is a possibility. You'll be kicking yourself the rest of your life if you see that monster and get bit off. When a 40"+ pike is a possibility, use a 9 inch, 30 lb steel wire and change it out whenever it kinks. If you like the more expensive titanium wire to avoid kinks, that's fine, just don't get mad when you lose a $15 lure because the loop on the titanium leader frayed then snapped.

[@FishnTheSouthOkanagan78]

Megabass is a respectable brand is the Smallmouth and LargeMouth bass fishing world. You guys should try the Megabass dark sleeper lure, it’s totally weedless and I’m sure the pike and large Yellow Perch would love it too. Since you guys love using Chatterbaits for pike, try using Z-man jack hammer Chatterbait, Z-man is another well known fishing lure company and very popular in the bass fishing industry and I’m sure it would do very well for Pike and the Yellow Perch in your area, highly recommended giving it a try and maybe do a video of it MEGABASS v Z-MAN Chatterbait challenge

[@kamildombrowski6748]

Dziekuje za polskie napisy

[@louisnilsson5664]

Här är jag! Igen... men super bra video som vanligt 👍

[@lennertvenstermans2890]

Do the species chalenge

[@peppehmann99]

Yellow perch finns icke i Sverige dock! ☝️

[@quinnparzych9294]

Hi I accidentally disliked the video, but quickly reversed it! Great stuff my dude

[@boiboi2674]

I have never seen the diffrence between the leaders, I dont fish big I do ultralight fishing and medium fishing id say I use wire since its way more flexible and its almost invisible in the waters i fish in

[@karlolof5168]

Nice film

[@kanalgratisdotse]

Thanks Lucas!

[@heinargo]

When you use that thick FC, you also have to use sleeves and that kinda undermines the invisibility. Up to 0,5 mm or so it is easily possible to tie FC and braid with FG knot or Albright and that way you can use really long leaders which can run through the guides. I myself use the FC all the time, the thickness I choose is between 2,5 and 3 times the thickness of braid. I tie it with FG knot and the main purpose is not less visibility or pike teeth (those are small and questionable extra bonuses), but to protect the braid from rocks, reeds etc - braid really does not like abrasive things. BTW, while perch or trout fishing in high pike probability areas I add 20-30 cm wire leader to FC, because light FC can be so easily cut by pike.

[@kos7941]

Lol fluoro should be over 1mm diameter for pike and even that's on the low end. 150lb fluoro is the sweet spot and it has to be a 100% high quality fluoro ie seagur, to zuri, ect. You can tie that fluoro easily, i can tye 150lb yo zuri topknot fluoro using a tiny perfection loop and backing the 90 degree tag into the loop and neatening. Can also use 5 min epoxy on fluoro over the knot for more neatness.

[@heinargo]

@@kos7941 with that thick fluoro you loose all the advantages over regular wire leader

[@finmanpoozie4756]

@@kos7941 I don't quite agree....Musky don't cut thru 150# fluro (130, yes) & pike up to 40" are not in the same bracket as musky. Braid to a snap, ball bearing swivel to fluro with a Centauri knot on flurio over 80#--- non issue & crimp free. Plenty of vids (including in-Fisherman) suggesting 20# fluro is fine for pike.... 150# changes the bait's action, and adding unnecessary crimps will only add more weight..

[@pysordes]

Me i use wire only but with grey-green color to have the same color as watter, no green, no black, ni white, but grey-green yes

[@leohaugerdelbekk2093]

try to fish pike in south Noway where I live. my closest lake is 200 meters long. I caught a 5 kg pike(my PB) and a perch on the size of 1 and a half computers long! so plzz get down here

[@davidnieuwland]

I have done this so many times before and all I can say is that the leader type doesn't matter to the fish. ( pike, zander and perch ) I never noticed any type of leader to get more bites than the other. Caught many many perch even on 1mm thick flourcarbon. They just don't care.

[@Benjamin-S]

davidnieuwland yeah. I think that the leader visibility will matter a few times. If it’s an increadibly slow session it may matter but you don’t really have those super slow sessions that often. So for the most part, leader won’t matter:)!

[@kos7941]

Visability of leader doesent matter if it did , you think the fish would see the 2 giant trebles out the bait or the wierd snap attaching the leader. Fluoros better for suspending lures, grabbing the leader without risk of cutting ur hands when a fish is close to the boat, you can retry when frayed and also see the damage easier, and kink resistances.

[@reichvu8409]

I use this for pike 0.33mm - 11.40kg FLUOROCARBON Excel is ok

[@proalfmegaangler156]

geiles Video top gemacht

[@russnicholas6796]

Ha !! Pontus how come no titanium leaders to test? I've had line thru lures that have that awful thick Muskie wire on and I throw it in the bin and swap it out with 60lb titanium How does Mille only has only Muskie leader in his tackle bag? Good stuff 👍👍 despite the crappy wire 😶

[@Setnieksss]

I have fishbrain like 1.5 years 😂

[@borchesarafiloski1204]

You should to use same lures. Second thing most important for me, how many pikes can handle fluorocarbon without being abrasive too much.

[@ollejonsson9619]

Jag älskar era vidios Jag mmmm jag vet inte vad jag ska säga ni gör allt bra☺☺😍😍😍

[@kanalgratisdotse]

Superkul att höra, tack för att du tittar Olle!

[@mille6584]

Do a perch competition with spinnbaits vs jiggbaits

[@wa7293]

The species identification was wrong, it’s not a yellow perch its a red fin

[@kanalgratisdotse]

I guess it was a redfin yellow perch 🤓

[@peteredwards1528]

What is the breaking strain on the 1 mm fluorocarbon leader?

[@kanalgratisdotse]

49,8 kg / 109 lbs

[@paulyoung4453]

Team vs. Team . 24h multi species and each team picks other teams lures. Goood luck

[@DanielvdPoel]

Want to see that

[@arvidaberg4737]

Is it possible that I saw you Pontus step of the viking grace to åland at the 11 of juli? Night have been someone else, but from the side it really looked like it could be you with a cap on?

[@kanalgratisdotse]

Wasn’t me, haven’t travelled with Grace in quite a while.

[@juliusmarminge]

Should have used same bait all the time

[@viggoblomqvist3439]

Do a 24hours challenge

[@yodlucky4749]

What baitcaster rod to 40$ and 60 g . And can IT be Abu Garcia Black max? ( I want to buy rod and baitcaster ) i m not good at english can i write In Poland language????

[@derouladetv]

Are you guys fishing chatterbait since scarna fishing hooked up fish with ? 🙃🙃🙃

[@kanalgratisdotse]

Yes! 😀🔥

[@tayronesalves118]

Like my brother

[@marcocapin6100]

fainelly on the water lets go to the forst plats

[@paulthebeardedonedowning6820]

tbh flouro has out done the wire for chub and perch for me also wire kinks up a lot when pike fishing I use like .70 flouro and never lost a thing literally 100 plus fish

[@kanalgratisdotse]

Interesting! We need to do this one for perch too...

[@paulthebeardedonedowning6820]

I used real thin fluoro and found I got more action in the lure and convinced myself that and the visibility of the leader made the difference lol

[@Benjamin-S]

Paul The bearded one Downing I use titanium leaders. They’re expencive but you can use the same leader for over a year. Great material that really holds up well!

[@paulthebeardedonedowning6820]

Yeah I've had some of these in the past single strand titanium it definitely doesn't kink up lol

[@elliothed3195]

Do the 24 h thing

[@NirwanObhie]

👍👍👍👍

[@kartozz4891]

My dudes ! Can you do next challange? Maybe you can test in trolling. One boat, two whaterproof cameras and two the same lures. First with fluorocarbon and second with wire. Challange accepted?

[@kanalgratisdotse]

Sounds awesome, might do that one!

[@Cassiusisback]

biggest advantage of fluoro leaders is that you dont have to prepare them at home. no ferrules, no pliers, just 2 simple knots and you re ready to go. and very important for flyfishing imo; it takes me 30 mins of casting to make the wire leader slip out of the ferrules, making me lose my fly.

[@kos7941]

Lol I use 150lb fluoro, and 75lb titanium. Even 150lb titanium sometimes, and all my wires are tyed. Use titanium, you can tye it, simple 3 turn blood knot till it clicks then back the end throuhh the top loop for neatness and pull. Then you can shuv a shrink tube round and light. Can u not carry 10cm of shrink tube and a lighter 😂. I mean I agree with you I do use fluoro aswell but too many people don't even look at wire as an option but it's got apoplocations and it's not that hard as people make it

[@Hogbellylife]

Have you guys ever used the angry dragon chatter bait?

[@kanalgratisdotse]

Nope! Chatterbaits aren’t very commonly used here in Sweden.

[@Hogbellylife]

@@kanalgratisdotse check them out on the muskie shop.com I use the smaller ones for pike

[@stubee1744]

I stopped using fluorocarbon leader because guys say pike bite threw up2 100lb fluorocarbon , been using titanium and haven't caught a fish since , what's your thoughts on pike biting off fluorocarbon ever seen it happen ?

[@kos7941]

Keep to tianium mate tbf no reason fluoro will give u an advantage. Its simply you dont catch everytime and thats fishing,try more spots, different lures, jerks with the rods, pauses, speeds . ect. I use 150lbsnd never had a bite off although ive heard and seen it on 80lb-100lb fluoro only due to people not checking traces after every fish!!! Even with wire you should check, if fluoro frays cut and retye. Not enough guys do it and wonder why there bite off, you have to check your tackle. You wouldnt fish with rusty hooks or a broken reel lol

[@SirPraiseSun]

where is this? Finland or what?

[@jacekpsi2]

FISH ON !!!

[@henrikkallner2040]

gör en 24 h species challenge!!

[@christiansill8273]

From may up to the end of october steel and for the Rest of the year fluorocarbon.

[@Don_Puparo]

can you please explain why? i always did titanium...but i am tempted to try fluoro as well. thank you

[@christiansill8273]

@@Don_Puparo i use steel if the water temperature is high because i use normaly smaller lures and the pikes are more aggressive when the strike the lures. in this time i think steel saves me that i don't losing fishes because they often inhaled the whole lure. in this Situation it could happen that the pikes destroy the fluo leader and they gone with the lure in their mouth. it is not so nice. in Winter the pikes are not so active and i use more bigger lures which are not so often inhaled totally. and, if i fish shallow i use the lift up effect from that fluo leader and i can fish big lures a bit slower.

[@mbekarlsson7514]

24 challenge

[@let_go_let_grow_sg8041]

Which braid are you using?🤔😅

[@buer82]

The Ding is a Jacob Wheeler thing, guess you guys also are watching MLF

[@kanalgratisdotse]

Haha yeah he´s the best! Would love to fish with him. We´ll stick to our double ding that we´ve been doing since the beginning :D

[@MrHutentut]

Take a trusted Leader (Wire or FC) take a trusted Bait and it will Bang. No big Difference in my Opinion ;)

[@Danki81]

Fluorocarbon is good for fishing zander or perch when there is a risk that a pike bites. A zander has very good vision, so fluorocarbon is a good idea. Therefore I have much better results to catch zander with fluorocarbon instead of wire. Pikes don't care.

[@Lukas_BarschTotal]

I Wonder if you have the european catfish (in Germany it‘s called Wels) in sweden as well? Never heard of catches in sweden

[@Don_Puparo]

its too cold for catfish up there. Spain,France,Germany,Italy,Hungary,Serbia,Bulgaria and Romania are best for the catfish. River Po in Italy, and Danube Delta in Romania are HOTSPOTS

[@Lukas_BarschTotal]

xcybit wow didn’t knew that. Yea Rio Ebro in Spain is also a damn good river for Silurus glanis.

[@Pingu2004]

do 24h challenge

[@gustavkruger3014]

I would always take wire

[@andyyoung2032]

I still think pike can bite threw flurocarbon. Even if it 100th %, its not worth the risk. I will stick to wire (stranded titanium).

[@Ekmanjohnny]

vilket spö fiskade mille med? underbart fin matta på bröstet han har, blev lite knäsvag

[@kanalgratisdotse]

Haha! Det här: www.kanalgratis.se/en/gator-bait-caster-76-30gr-2-piece

[@sp50]

what is rod is mille using ?

[@kanalgratisdotse]

www.kanalgratis.se/sv/gator-baitfish-perch-spinning-rod-8-3-20gr-2-piece

[@kanalgratisdotse]

Sorry, that was the spinning version. This is the rod he used: www.kanalgratis.se/en/gator-bait-caster-76-30gr-2-piece

[@davide4862]

what is the waight of the chatter??

[@kanalgratisdotse]

We used 21 and 14 gr 👍🏼

[@davide4862]

@@kanalgratisdotse thanks!

[@oskarfornstedt8739]

Gör en 24h challenge

[@oscarlindh4147]

Hej jag är en pojke på 13 år och jag har fiskat i ca 1 år men har inte kunnat få några större abborrar (min favorit fisk att fiska) och jag undrar om ni skulle kunna hjälpa mig med det??

[@kanalgratisdotse]

Det är bara att fortsätta nöta, testa olika platser och metoder :) Oftast är det viktigare var/när/hur du fiskar än exakt vilket bete det är. Nu på sommaren har jag haft bäst riktigt tidigt på morgonen (typ mellan 3 och 6) på grynnor men det beror mycket på vatten. Skitfiske på dig!

[@oscarlindh4147]

kanalgratisdotse tack för svaret och jag ska fortsätta nöta

[@skabhunter4005]

1

[@bullet2315]

Hej mille