Pilot's Reckless Mistake Kills Soccer Star Emiliano Sala!

[@pilot-debrief]

Edit: All human life is priceless! As I said in the video, it doesn't matter how much your worth, you should never have to worry about the quality of the plane you are flying in! If you found this video interesting then here's another video about a pilot that made several reckless mistakes! kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXTVe6miot95hrs

[@ThomStanton]

Thanks again for your recap.

[@pikestance8851]

Damn, 1 hour and 20k+ views. Impressive

[@jeremyscherbert7336]

Most, not all.

[@DestinyAdvisor]

"Be sure to check out this other video about a pilot that made several reckless mistakes!" - bro are you aware of your wording, YIKES

[@TheCraigy83]

No group loyalty 😂 you know you went out of your way to find a black airplane mechanic for that 6min odd bit .

[@CGriffinGo]

These debriefs are like murder mysteries being solved one puzzle piece at a time ... then it all comes together.

[@maxieduardoapariciom.3181]

they killed him to get the insurance, pirates still killing catholics.

[@flybobbie1449]

@@maxieduardoapariciom.3181 Footballers ex girlfriend said the S American mafia got him.

[@PaulVictorey]

This one is like one of the Agatha Christie novels where everyone wanted the guy dead.

[@flybobbie1449]

@@PaulVictorey Interesting pilots body never found. He was a parachute pilot so i might have jumped.

[@sunsetlights100]

​@maxieduardoapariciom.3181 how does that insurance work who collects ...

[@nancyjones6780]

That voicemail was heartbreaking!

[@malcolmwhite6588]

100% at least it appears that he would have been unconscious at the crash and carbon monoxide poisoning is not a terrifying sensation - you just feel like you’re a little bit puffed and short of breath then you feel dizzy and sleepy and you drift off to sleep, so at least the family can have that to know that their precious son probably wasn’t terrified in his last moments ,doesn’t bring him back but possibly give them a little bit of peace😢

[@airbedane]

Its depressing that egotistical idiots are allowed to fly at all. Tragic.

[@RWBHere]

I can't blame you. I'd feel the same way. @stitchedlovely

[@rolux4853]

@user-tx7oj7yw8hevery day I wonder how stupid people can get and here comes you.

[@JimiBegbaaji]

And he predicted that there'd be little effort to recover his body. How sad. Even sadder that but for his family's efforts ... 😢

[@rickb1973]

When the Swiss cheese model contains no cheese....just holes.

[@RazorSharp_313]

Not even a hole, a cliff. Anyone on that plane, on that flight was Doomed.

[@janetsmiley6778]

Can you imagine what the original pilot thought when he found out that his buddy crashed the plane?

[@memovilmx6239]

more holes == more cheese or how it was?

[@budm9982]

Exactly what I came here to say.

[@markpoidvin5382]

All the mistakes are hair raising but the simple fact is that it seems the only cause of the crash was the carbon monoxide, likely making the pilot unconscious.

[@graz9990]

What sort of a man would risk his life and the footballers life in a rust bucket that he already knew had major problems. I can't believe that people take these risks and just hope or pray that they come thru... Hoover concise and comprehensive explanation of the accident. 👍

[@Fix_em_jets]

Thanks for giving a shout out to maintenance. I work for a major but still, even in GA, give us your problems. That’s our job and we’re happy to do it. It’s the pilots job to fly, not fix. We have your back. There’s no turning back once you’re in the air. Tragic.

[@mrbmp09]

Owners would have a LOT more maintenance done if it weren't so absurdly expensive. The average person would be shocked at the price of simple parts.

[@MrOshirinoana]

@@mrbmp09 If I could afford to fly, I would make sure I could afford maintenance, fuel, and insurance first.

[@WhiteGinger10000]

As someone who will be going to school soon to get my A&P License, I definitely will make sure to keep this to heart.

[@gatesurfer]

@@mrbmp09that’s ridiculous. so how much are two lives worth? If you can’t afford to get your plane fixed, you shouldn’t be flying it.

[@joycedudzinski9415]

When you get that feeling that something might be wrong, go with it.

[@theLeftHandedDog]

I get that feeling all the time; flying, driving, getting in the bath. What do you recommend?

[@lovetofly32]

Words of a woman

[@maxieduardoapariciom.3181]

they killed him to get the insurance, pirates still killing catholics.

[@brittanyC_]

RIGHT. If something seems sketchy it's always best to err on the side of caution. The last thing I would do is board a plane that is clearly not safe.

[@richvail7551]

@@theLeftHandedDog I recommend you stay out of smell range.

[@billwilliams7970]

While in training, i had it drilled into me that your gut feeling is usually right and i never regretted trusting it.

[@malcolmwhite6588]

Not just an aviation - many times I have had a gut feeling about something and followed it and been glad and sometimes not followed it and wish that I had LOL

[@rc70ys]

How do you seperate a gut feeling from anxiety and simply thinking the worst

[@malcolmwhite6588]

@@rc70ys aah! Hopefully I can qualify that and explain the difference, so here goes !anxiety and thinking the worst is an internal thing. Not based on any evidence. Gut feeling ,in my opinion, is actually the voice of your subconscious, the subconscious, just being a part of your brain that below the surface observes, everything collect the evidence but doesn’t make any value judgements, ( just like a computer analysing data)so to decide which you are acting on take a moment to academically consider, and if it is just anxiety, it’ll just be either an undetermined fear or some random inexplicable aspect . if you quietly think and realise a logical aspect then, as you let your mind relax, the subconscious thoughts will come to your conscious mind, and you will then say ,okay ,it’s because the pilot joked about his skills,slow. getting with a clearance. I noted that there was an oil leak on the front Strut, the flight and was hairy, and then he got confused with the approach. They will all be things that at the time just passed unnoticed to your conscious mind, and then your brain will collect them all and present them as a “gut feeling” for want of a better word not sure if that seems sensible, but that’s how it feels like it worked to me when I’ve considered it.

[@evelghostrider]

Learning the gut feeling is not easy.. it can be confused by other issues. It's something only experience in life that can help you.

[@arsenalfeet]

I once had a gut feeling. I ferried a flight to Nottingham for maintenance. Kept seeing fuel tankers passing me. Saw two small kids about 2 years old playing in the cafe park and they were adorable. They both hugged and kissed and then looked at me and pointed to the big tanker, run over to it with their parents. I said im going to check my fuel for the flight back (left on full tanks, always gets me there and back) i checked the tanks when the aircraft had finished its annual. I had 2 gallons of fuel. I would have taken off, and had an engine failure. I still to this day always think those two kids were angels sending me a warning. Never ever skip on checking fuel and oil, EVER.

[@arnaudt3935]

Sala is still a wound in Nantes's fans hearts. His number will never be given again.

[@AshTownsend]

Never settle. This could have been avoided. You might be the best, but God doesn't care. Your safety is your responsibility.

[@isabellind1292]

@@AshTownsend What does that have to do w/someone offering their thoughts in his memory? At least they took the time to think about him while you're just busy scrutinizing comments. Do you clock in before you report for duty?

[@LPCLASSICAL]

A deeper wound on Cardiff City who had to pay £20M and Sala never kicked a ball for them.

[@xr6lad]

@@LPCLASSICALwill did Cardiff hire the aviation company?

[@501sqn3]

@@LPCLASSICAL Actually, they still haven't settled the transfer fee and paid Nantes, they've spent hundreds of thousands of pounds trying to avoid it !. 🙄

[@GrantWitham]

15,000 IFR helicopter pilot here, with lots of night offshore in the Persian Gulf & West Africa; if in DOUBT, there is NO doubt!

[@generfeld]

awesome. have you flown the Bell 407? S76? It must be awesome to start on something basic like the R22 then as you progress, moving to more powerful helicopters and appreciating the increases in performance. Like if someone started on an R22 then moved to a Bell 206, you probably appreciate it more than if you started on a 206 (obviously needing the money to, but still)

[@jshumphress13]

Haunting. That voicemail was haunting. Unreal. Imagine getting that as his friend and then seeing what happened.

[@garysimpson3900]

Thank you for covering this crash. Here in the UK the case highlighted the casual approach to safety & regulation by the "Private" flying community which was truly shocking. Not mentioned in your summary was the fact Ibbotson had been found to be breaching the regulations in an earlier flight with this aircraft & the owner had made it clear they didn't want him using the aircraft again. This fact & the limitations on Ibbotson's Private Pilot License were said to be known to Henderson who booked him to do the flight not with standing. Henderson was prosecuted and found guilty of arranging a flight without permission or authorisation and of endangering the safety of an aircraft.

[@sarahalbers5555]

Thanks for the additional information.

[@glasshalffull2930]

Almost unbelievable. What the F*$& is going through people’s minds.

[@keithallen3119]

I hope Henderson is in prison a long time for killing the footballer and for hiring a completely unqualified stick holder who lost his life as well.

[@rachmunshine9474]

Oh good I was gonna say whoever gave the flight to him should be held accountable.

[@setyourhandel340]

Thanks for the extra information! It makes you wonder with all the electronic information that this is not available to departng airport personnel . Up to date information about a pilot airworthiness and the plane are available but nobody knows about it until after the accident.

[@MoonHowlerGaming]

Flying at night without a "Night Rating" is so reckless... I have no words.

[@Ash_18037]

It seems likely that Ibottson was offered a sum of money much greater than he would normally make for a flight. He was filling in for the usual pilot (Henderson) who regularly flew players around Europe and so probably earned quite a relatively large pay for those flights. So when Henderson quietly gave the flight to Ibbotson along with the money to be made, all sense went out the window. When I see such repeated stupidly dangerous decisions it's usually money at the root cause of it.

[@christopherhill3067]

We don’t even have a night rating here

[@SlosII]

@@christopherhill3067 where?

[@mowtivatedmechanic1172]

Instrument rating?

[@jimmiller5600]

@@christopherhill3067 Our club (and insurance company) requires an annual night flight checkout by a CFI unless you're an active commercial pilot.

[@picard714]

It was that old specter of "get there-itis" that seasoned pilots constantly guard against. Well presented as usual, Hoover. Heartbreaking.

[@DaveDepilot-KFRG]

not just seasoned pilots; all good pilots should realize when they are feeling get-there-itis and stop whatever stupid thing they were considering doing.

[@iunnox666]

Even the passenger. Loud bang and mist in the cabin mid flight? I wouldn't be getting back in that plane.

[@betsyj59]

It's very interesting to read the news articles coming out of the UK around the time of David Henderson's trial (the operator of the plane). The woman who owned the plane (within a trust set-up) had specifically told Henderson to not allow Ibbotson to fly her plane again after previous problems. Henderson Knew about Ibbotson's lack of a commercial license, the fact that he couldn't fly at night and more. Henderson ran a shady operation (and it sounds like Sala's agent was pretty shady too) and did so because of business (profit) goals (of course). Henderson even texted associates as soon as he heard of the crash and told them there would be a big investigation because of passenger's VIP status and not to talk. Also likely that Sala was unconscious at time of crash due to leaking carbon monoxide from tailpipe into cabin and that Ibbotson, though still flying, could have been adversely affected too. This whole thing was a sh*tshow from beginning to end but it looks to me that the buck stops at David Henderson.

[@vontegethoff]

It always amazes me that it’s never just 1 thing that causes a crash but a litany of failures and bad decisions

[@kpNov23]

Engineer's mantra

[@johnvanzoest4532]

There's a theory in Psychology known as "The Dark Triad" : Narcissisim, Psychopathy, and Machiavellianism . It seems to me there's a Dark Triad in Aviation, and other contexts as well, such as Shipping, Rail, etc It's composed of : Negligence, Incompetence, Complacency.

[@DesertDog2]

I’m shaking my head (literally) watching this. My God. Unbelievable

[@maxieduardoapariciom.3181]

they killed him to get the insurance, pirates still killing catholics.

[@TheSeventhSeal]

@@maxieduardoapariciom.3181 Yes. The pilot clearly committed suicide in order to enrich someone else.

[@maxieduardoapariciom.3181]

​@@TheSeventhSeal the pilot being a victim too

[@TheSeventhSeal]

@@maxieduardoapariciom.3181 So how exactly was this rigged then? What evidence do you have?

[@westerlywinds5684]

@@maxieduardoapariciom.3181You have literally posted this 6x as a comment. Why?

[@davidbrooks1724]

If you got a bad feeling like that . Then you don’t go . If you don’t like the plane or pilot . Change change change

[@Jeff-sp7bg]

I feel like everything is fine when I drive 80 mph in the fog. No worries everything will be fine because I feel good. 🙂

[@fredtaylor9792]

​@Jeff-sp7bg That's the way to go. Feelings are life. Lol

[@marlinderwall8873]

That's sound advice. Anytime I get on a plane and the pilots aren't old white men I immediately get off.

[@fredtaylor9792]

@marlinderwall8873 Hey hey buddy, TMI. We're not interested in your sexual preference or what gets you off.

[@evelghostrider]

So many people are not able to listen to that still quiet voice inside them. Society tells you it's all nonsense..

[@yakacm]

This was massive news in the UK at the time. The 2nd search wasn't paid for by the family, it was funded by a Go Fund Me campaign, and the AAIB (Brit NTSB) helped by providing their submersible. The reason why the 1st search was called off after 3 days was because it was conducted by the authorities on Guernsey. Guernsey is a tiny Island and as such I'd guess they don't have a lot of resources. It's a sad tale all round really, a story of pressure on both men, who probably should have said no at some point.

[@pilot-debrief]

Thanks for the amplifying details!

[@Peter-gi3re]

@@pilot-debriefHoover can you delete that idiot with pirate comments killing Catholics 😂

[@gap9992]

On the face of it, this was a "private" flight and in the UK, typically there would be no search for the wreckage at all.

[@ComicalFlask]

Guernsey is a tax haven with plenty of resources.

[@rgbaal]

@@ComicalFlask You have confused Jersey and Guernsey - Guernsey is not a tax haven and does not have the resources for this sort of a search.

[@ivanargueta5]

You sir, are the pilot I wanted to be when I was a kid. I never got to be one, but you explain everything so beautifully. I’m proud of you! Thanks for sharing the story of our beloved Emiliano.

[@LeeStewart]

David Henderson was taken to court for arranging this flight. The return trip to Wales was supposed to be earlier than planned hence the VFR flight plan. The pilot and Sala were exposed to carbon monoxide rendering them incapacitated before the impact.

[@jacktoy3032]

What was the outcome of the court case?

[@tullochgorum6323]

​@@jacktoy3032 He got 18 months in prison, which seems pretty lenient for such an egregious action. He had the cheek to seek leave to appeal the sentence, but was refused.

[@109-w7v]

Unfortunately there are too many of these cowboys flying around.

[@DrJohn493]

Precisely! For those of us that strived to be responsible, safety oriented pilots, we can spot the cowboy pilots from a mile away. Regrettably, those non-pilots who trust their lives to a stranger can't always see the cowboy in the cowboy. But in this case, Sala's observations about the Malibu should have been a tipoff about the pilot as well.

[@lovetofly32]

​@@DrJohn493"Cowboys?" Pffhaha. You associate complacent stubborn fools with cowboys huh? Sounds like you have your own issues

[@maxieduardoapariciom.3181]

they killed him to get the insurance, pirates still killing catholics.

[@Jeff-sp7bg]

Exactly. I was on a flight in the 70s. The pilot did a loop. It would've been worldwide news if done today. This was in a fully loaded dc 10 western airlines. A full loop. Think about it

[@KenFullman]

Yet it appears that, despite being unqualified, even a fully qualified proficient pilot would have had the same outcome. If you're unconscious from CO poisoning, it doesn't matter how skillful you are.

[@bertg.6056]

Another fantastic debrief, Hoover. Thanks so much for all the effort you put into your debriefs.

[@pilot-debrief]

My pleasure!

[@sebastiancardenasholik]

Gracias por cubrir este accidente y ser tan respetuoso! Abrazo desde Argentina

[@brianperkins7036]

Te ofrezco mis condolencias. Fue una tragedia que no debería haber ocurrido. Me siento mucho por su familia. 😢😢

[@onemoremisfit]

In the voicemail call the soccer player made during the flight where he talked about his concern for the condition of the plane, he also said he was feeling very tired. I heard this in a more complete version of that recorded call in another video elsewhere a couple years ago. This could have been from the CO in the cabin already beginning to reach toxic levels and making him feel drowsy.

[@rjsfarm2534]

When in Nicaragua about 10 years ago with some friends, they were invited to go sailing with someone they met at the beach. This wasn’t a professional charter. My friends made plans with the fella and they asked if I wanted to come along. I felt uneasy and uncomfortable with then thought of going. Well, as soon as they got out of the bay and into the open sea, they capsized. Luckily there was a fishing boat not too far away and was able to save them.

[@Ken_oh545]

This was a most upsetting case especially as Sala seemed a genuinely lovely fellow, caught up in a web of money-saving and corner-cutting despite the 'high net worth' world in which he appeared to be moving.

[@Big-Government-Is-The-Problem]

yeah, if you're trying to be a jet setting high roller it seems like you need to go ahead and commit and pay a premium and make sure there is a thorough background check on the pilot, the plane etc, otherwise drive or fly commercial. id want a pilot to have a minimum of 10k hours on the specific plane we are flying. the dude should know everything about the plane and be very anal about safety checks, maintenance etc.

[@ThePorkypete51]

@@Big-Government-Is-The-Problem It was the football club's agent that organised the flight, not the footballer.

[@onemanandhisdog9]

And you generally don't expect a pilot to have a death wish!

[@Big-Government-Is-The-Problem]

@@onemanandhisdog9 this guy seemingly didnt though, he was just dumb/cocky probably, he wasnt like "watch this barrel roll" like some of the guys on this channel. or maybe he was trying to be a reckless show off on that final dive, we will never know. id make sure i have a pilot that has a wife and kids that he loves lol, so i know he wants to make it home

[@BeBe-vh4ry]

​@@Big-Government-Is-The-Problemthe player made the same mistake that probably 95% of regular people would make: he trusted the 'professional' and that his employer wouldn't risk his life to save a few quid (i.e that his instincts were wrong) Most people would never feel in a position to confidently say 'this is fubar, I'm not getting on' if a professional doesn't appear to agree.

[@koroba01]

For an additional reckless pilot fatal accident (if you haven’t done it already) I would suggest you look into the airplane crash that killed Black Sabbath and former Quiet Riot guitarist Randy Rhoads back in 1982 in Leesburg, FL…a flight that never should have taken place by an unqualified and impaired pilot.

[@Daniel-Weaver]

Randy never played in Black Sabbath. He was Ozzy's guitarist for his first two solo albums. Ozzy got booted from BS for drugs and alcohol problems.

[@Wokeequalssocialism]

I would also like to hear this debrief. Randy Rhodes being one of my favorite guitarist, he was a great classical guitarist as well.

[@thelonerizla1]

I'd like to hear it too , I'd just bought Blizzard of Oz around the same time or Diary of a madman .

[@davidrice3337]

Who ? Dude was way too good to play for black Sabbath - what an insult

[@davidrice3337]

​@@Wokeequalssocialismdime a dozen - I know because I am one

[@FD1991]

Keep the great debriefs coming in Hoover. I'm due to start my flying lessons, it's always been a dream of mine. But safety is paramount to me so it's great that you are sharing all of this information so we can all be safer pilots

[@youngOG87]

I don’t know people can take flying so lightly. He knew he wasn’t qualified.

[@DirtyDozen6612]

Sadly it’s the same mentality with thinking you can drive without a license or insurance etc. some people just don’t care for the risks

[@lt_johnmcclane]

Why are all of the small planes in these videos like 40 or 50 years old?

[@rayafk8502]

@@lt_johnmcclaneold planes have the potential for more issues/worn parts. More issues means they are more likely to end up in videos like this. Although with proper maintenance, much older planes are completely airworthy.

[@megenberg8]

people.

[@Docstantinople]

@@lt_johnmcclanenew planes are super expensive to buy and maintain. That’s why these recreational pilot and private transport pilot buy older planes. Cheaper to buy and cheaper to maintain.

[@lucianoluggren]

Hello, I am from Argentina and I vividly remember this accident on the news in my country with those last heartbreaking audio clips. I also remember the family raising funds, because the authorities did not want to continue searching. A shame to think that there were so many red flags and the pilot decided to fly anyway. Greetings from here.

[@samantha-lee7294]

I recently watched the Air Crash Investigation on this crash and its probably my all time favorite show. However you gave me way more information in 15 minutes than that episode did in 45. Now you are both my favorites. 👍

[@3UZFE]

Cable TV shows are a joke, youtube content from passionate individuals is a far better use of time.

[@KCLIBURN-mj9qx]

That is one thing you can count on with Hoover's analysis. Pertinent facts. I too used to watch other incident doc's but not anymore. Amazing to me how some pilots (the cowboy pilots) can throw caution and safety to the wind and that's when an incident occurs. I liked one commenter that was a very experienced (over 20000 hours) state that he was very paranoid about flying, and did not take any chances.........Probably the very reason why he never had ANY major incidents. The difference between having a long flying career as opposed to OMG,OMG,OMG........

[@2434-k3l]

@@3UZFEyou can like more than one thing at once.

[@bobbobertson7568]

I am always baffled they get these athletes or entertainers on these dodgy flights. Like maybe more flexible schedule but still. Get them on an Air France or British Airways, first class if necessary

[@dermick]

The problem is that there are very few flights from small airports like Nantes. Nothing wrong with a private charter, but you need to select the right company. I'm shocked a football team does not have one in their rolodex.

[@JustMe-fo4ev]

distance too short and cities too small for major options, but better options than this could still be had

[@medler2110]

There are proper charter companies, with far better aircraft and pilots than this, no doubt someone who books and pays for them just goes for the cheapest option, regardless of how much the passenger earns.

[@russthebiker]

The bloke that booked it was a mate of the useless pilot,no doubt a backhander was involved​@@medler2110

[@JoshuaTootell]

This was in Europe, not really a good excuse. We know the train system is fantastic, he could get to a larger airport. Been there, done that.

[@De_Nome]

The biggest problem with the super stars and the pilots whether is a car or a plane is that some of the pilots feel the need to show off and impress the super stars many times taking extreme risks and eventually ending up crashing. Then again it was also the player that could have traveled in a much more secure way. Thank you so much for shedding light in this case. I have always wondered what happened since i am from Europe and at the time it was a huge case.

[@jamesrolls9206]

I flew biz jets for a living. The thought of “showing off” for superstars never entered my thought process. The same can be said of all of my colleagues at that company.

[@peregrinepickle]

Why is a $20 million footballer flying in a 40 year old single engine prop job with a dodgy pilot?

[@ktmdoug]

You'd be amazed at how cheap most rich people are. They will waste a ton of money on material things but hate giving money to employees or service providers.

[@Pedroism]

​@@ktmdougjust like kobe

[@MCtravler]

He was offered $20 million. Hadn’t been paid yet.

[@andrewbarton8525]

He didn't pay for it. Cardiff City fc did. They were the cheapskates. But even they didn't contract him, he was a subby

[@eefneleman9564]

Cardiff paid Nantes 20 million, not Emiliano. Though his contract probably wouldn't have been half bad, it's still a form of slavery.

[@CapitalismSuxx]

The amount of famous people being killed like this (by criminal negligence and peer pressure resulting in a crash) is astounding.

[@sarahalbers5555]

And it gets worse and worse. There is an important lesson to be learned here.

[@CapitalismSuxx]

@@sarahalbers5555If I was a famous person, I'd book a nice first class commercial flight rather than scud running in a dodgy charter service.

[@brianw338]

@@CapitalismSuxx: Exactly. Blows my mind with that much $ involved his manager went cheap on transportation

[@thatguyalex2835]

@@CapitalismSuxxSame here, preferably with a major airline that operates jet planes or newer prop planes that are 20 years old or less.

[@twil05]

Maybe I’m just too poor to understand how this is a better option than an upgraded commercial ticket. I’m sure it’s more convenient being able to avoid the masses but boy is it sketchy. Add to the fact that these small prop jobs are not comfortable to fly in at all . . .

[@Jeff-q4u]

Thank you for covering this, and being so respectful and thorough. I remember this tragedy and the issues it raised with private licences, sadly nothing appears to have stuck, as I haven't heard anything regarding updating the rules around the private travel sector. This young footballer deserved better, and I felt so sorry for his loved ones. R.I.P Emaliano Sala🌹

[@daemotron]

Well, the rules already forbid private pilots to conduct commercial flights, so it wasn't an issue of the rules, but an issue of enforcing adherence to these rules. The get-you-home limited IFR thing though should IMO go down the drain. We train no vis / lo vis escaping during PPL or LAPL training (i.e. flying a 180° escape turn away from adverse weather) using foggles or a hood, but that just increases survivability to a couple of minutes at the best. Without regular training, it's impossible to keep those skills current and ready. And to me their last 180° turn looks a bit as if they had tried to return to Guernsey to avoid weather ahead. But if they had already lost visual orientation (i.e. no horizon), it's terribly difficult for a non-current pilot to execute such a turn without losing altitude or getting disorientated. I fully agree with Hoover, this flight should never have taken off; there was no way to conduct it safely. NVFR over water is a terrible idea either, though technically legal.

[@wingmanjim6]

One more superbly researched and presented analysis. Many, many thanks, Hoover !

[@pilot-debrief]

You're welcome!

[@timothyparker7739]

Thanks

[@pilot-debrief]

You’re welcome! Glad you liked the video!

[@timothyparker7739]

Thanks Hoover! Always look forward to them. Best wishes from Australia.

[@vahnwinkle275]

I am an Aircraft Mechanic and I really enjoy your thorough analysis on these debriefs. Thanks for the info

[@MrWoowootila]

Night VFR over the ocean is pretty much IMC conditions. Even though the pilot might have been clear of clouds, flying over large bodies of water it is difficult to see the horizon at night because of the lack of ground lighting. I use to fly cargo in the Caribbean and after take off at night you were on instruments despite being clear of clouds. Flying in complete blackness is a strange experience and has killed a lot of inexperienced pilots.

[@Lifebackmed]

Night time over water is the one time I got real spacial disorientation. That is such a strong and strange sensation. Thankfully I realized what was going on quickly and fell back on training, but wow, I can see how those events happen

[@cheesy-p1j]

Even for airline pilots it's not easy to fly at night over the ocean. I remember the AF 447 flight, were pilots lost orientation on flight and crashed.

[@jasonMB999]

But why would you look at the natural horizon instead of the Artificial one at night? There's a reason for the emphasis on using ah during night training, the outside is mostly to navigate, not to fly

[@MrWoowootila]

@@jasonMB999 your looking at everything typically at night in VFR conditions just like during the day, but typically at night over the ocean or large bodies of water there is no ground lighting to determine the horizon. Stars at night can help, but if there is an overcast layer above you, and no ground lighting over the ocean, your IMC despite being clear of clouds. Lights on the ground can also give false horizon indications, so you’re always backing things up with instruments at night. You do not need an instrument rating at night to fly, but there are night conditions where your IMC despite being clear of clouds. The probable cause of the accident.

[@jasonMB999]

@@MrWoowootila Night rating exists for a reason. Who tested you for night rating? Or how did you pass your NR exam? It sounds like you've never heard of the false horizon, or autokinetic illusion, coriolis etc. There is a reason for using instruments as main source of reference at night. You're NOT looking at " everything typically at night in vfr conditions just like during the day". Are you actually a pilot?

[@augidogi1]

Another excellent video, Hoover.

[@danielleclare2938]

So called gut feeling tells you two things. One is if you are distracted or physically diminished then you feel not up to something. The other is when things around you don't make sense like going flying in crappy weather. Or someone acting odd. Your Spider Sense is activated. DON'T ignore it. I am a Private Pilot. Never regretted staying on the ground when things looked or felt not right.

[@ronjoskell]

@pilot-debrief thanks for covering this extremely sad case in such superb detail. It was of particular interest to me as it tragically married two of my favourite pastimes; football and flying. Shame it had to end the way it did.

[@nsmccoy2345]

I love your pilot-debriefs! Thank you for sharing all your knowledge🥰

[@delilahboa]

I remember this clearly when it happened, such a tragic, avoidable crash, so sad……..thanks Hoover for another brilliant video…..hope you and your family are well ❤

[@cqnnqn]

Thank you Sir for making these videos to bring awareness to myself and other aviators 🙏

[@pilot-debrief]

It's my pleasure!

[@bigains]

My dad once told me to always follow my gut feeling. That advice has never failed me.

[@Rapscallion2009]

I've found it works both ways. Sometimes something just "feels right" and you can't really say why.

[@russ8211]

Hi Hoover. Thanks for this. I’m a UK based pilot. I have both myFAA Instrument 5e UK Restricted Rating. Just for reference, the UK Restricted Rating is also not valid outside the UK. So that’s another breach he made if he used it to fly IfR. A very sad state of affairs indeed and the question is, how did the pilot even get to 3,500 or so hours with this level of recklessness?

[@goldiemusic8394]

The quality of this channel is at another level. Thank you for your work.

[@paramotorhead]

That’s one of the most shocking reports you’ve documented. I can’t understand the pilot’s hubris in this situation as he clearly knew he was unqualified for night flying and passenger work. The fact that the plane was also in poor condition gave little room for error.

[@nicolad8822]

He was in debt and facing court orders.

[@corjp]

Thank you for sharing, it sheds a BIG light on what really happened.

[@EMEL-hr4ut]

Just more of the official story which makes no sense

[@corjp]

@@EMEL-hr4ut what do you mean?

[@EMEL-hr4ut]

@corjp way too many questions. Well fishy operation. Lots of money and lots of shady people wanting easy money. This story like so many mass media broadcasts is bunkum. Blame the pilot. That old one.

[@aidennieles9858]

This channel is so awesome, I’m always excited when I see the notification.

[@pilot-debrief]

Glad to hear it!

[@nedmilburn]

Yours is the best channel for this content. Glad you're up and running again Hoover! 🙏🏻💪🏻

[@PatrickB-n4v]

I am a UK private pilot, night rated, partial instrument - the actions of this pilot are totally unforgivable - single engine at night over water should have been enough for him to make a no go decision - his routing, instead of flying north east and crossing to England at the shortest point (Cap Gris Nez), exposed him to avoidable danger. He should never have been in the pilot seat. This was recklessness bordering on criminal negligence.

[@ZombieSazza]

Man this just straight up depresses me, the pilot was such a reckless cowboy that he just didn’t care, ignored every single warning and safety issue, and killed a young man who was in the prime of his life and terrified, it’s just so cruel knowing this level of recklessness not only happens but the pilot made jokes out of.

[@TheLfamily24]

@@john_something_or_otherunless he wasn’t

[@terrygoyan]

I love these debriefs. Thanks for bringing such in depth understanding to these videos. They are a teaching experience for all pilots! It seems like most crashes are the result of a cascade of things, not just one. That heater muff is how old Volkswagen bugs are heated. I never really trusted them! Ahead exchanger is a lot safer.

[@PauldeSwardt]

This was such a sad outcome when this not qualified pilot ended the life of such a talented young man. Perhaps the FA and/or FIFA should maintain it's own list of qualified pilots for moving around all their talented (and valuable) football stars. RIP Emiliano and condolences to his family back in Argentina! 😥

[@maxieduardoapariciom.3181]

they killed him to get the insurance, pirates still killing catholics.

[@voornaam3191]

​@@maxieduardoapariciom.3181 How do you know? Pirate?

[@txbill2512]

I wouldn't trust a corrupt organization like FIFA to accomplish an idea like this. Perhaps an independent body would be able to keep this from happening in the future.

[@hb1338]

That is the worst possible suggestion. What on earth makes you think that *any* organisation whose business is football should *ever* be involved in deciding who is or isn't competent to fly anybody anywhere ? Every country in Europe has a system for licensing and regulating every type of aviation organisation, and in the vast majority of cases lists of such organisations are available online via the relevant regulatory authority. The problem is very simple - a man who had *no* authority to act as a football agent (licence cancelled due to being bankrupt) chose to operate outside both the law of the land and CAA regulations by hiring a man who had *no* licence to operate an air taxi business, who in turn sub-contracted the job to man who was neither qualified nor licensed to operate *any* flight for payment let alone a night flight in poor weather conditions. This problem is solved by the agent behaving responsibly and professionally by employing *only* organisations that are properly licensed and therefore trustworthy.

[@Keiphton27]

I remember when this happened. However I had no idea how bad of a situation this really was. Good lord. Very disturbing. Thanks Hoover for another wonderfully detailed video. Rest in peace to them both and my thoughts and prayers to his family.

[@GearUP876]

Still can't understand why they try to flew out this football star on such a below par plane. In fact, the pilot called a friend prior to the flight to explain how he didn't like the condition of the plane. Good content Sir Hoover! TRAGIC!

[@duanebidoux6087]

I think I would have to be pretty rich anymore to choose private over commercial. What is amazing is how many famous and wealthy people have been killed in private plane accidents by this kind of negligence (there's actually a KZbin channel dedicated to this topic).

[@shadowscall7758]

It's because rich and famous people mostly do private flights.

[@duanebidoux6087]

@@shadowscall7758 I recognize that. I was specifically talking about the high % of accidents involving multiple levels of gross negligence on the part of the operators. I can think of many such accidents now and virtually all of them involved amazingly reckless behavior and organizational failures at all levels. Money alone is not enough to bring competence, it requires vigilance too.

[@shadowscall7758]

@duanebidoux6087 it's because flying is very safe and the only fatal crashes we hear about are ones where multiple things went wrong because that's usually what it requires for a fatal crash to happen.

[@PaulJakma]

You don't have to be /that/ rich to fly this kind of aircraft with this kind of pilot. Probably cost less than £500 for this flight. Nantes to Cardiff is ~400km, the PA-46 from the trace in the video apparently was doing around 173 knots IAS, so should be around a 1.5h flight. This flight almost certainly saved him at least 5h of travelling time. Thing is, if you're going to spend money on private flights, spend it on something that comes with 2 pilots, where at least the captain is fully ATPL certified (and obv. with current type rating on the aircraft). Anything below that level, you're into cowboy land. Any CPL pilot who takes passengers (in Europe) with money changing hands is at a minimum dancing at the edge of legality ("cost sharing") - and that's already the first warning sign! It might cost £2k to £5k instead of £250 to £500, but it's your life.

[@duanebidoux6087]

@@PaulJakma Yeah, but this guy was. Why cut corners?

[@chrisjohnson4165]

This reminds me of Graham Hill and his Formula 1 team. Graham Hill chose to fly his plane without insurance, and without instrument rating, in the fog at night from France to England . They crashed on a golf course near London, and all died. Graham Hill was probably the only driver to win the F1 World Championship, Le Mans 24 Hours, and the Daytona 500.

[@evelghostrider]

Same type of thing exactly my friend.

[@godwindracing6056]

Hill has never won Daytona but he did at the Indianapolis 500 in 1966, the only one to do all this

[@gavnonadoroge3092]

@chrisjohnson4165 sounds like he should have been driving instead of flying

[@jaket9559]

Thanks for mentioning this Graham was a lovely guy as was his passengers and Driver rip

[@davidjones332]

Hill was racing in an era when motor racing was inherently dangerous and careers frequently ended in a lethal accident. It encouraged a fatalistic "press-on" attitude characteristic of wartime fighter pilots, so it was perhaps inevitable that he would end like this.

[@1994CPK]

20 million dollars and cheaped out getting a prop plane instead of a jet or first class airline

[@dermick]

More importantly they didn't get a good company that ensured the appropriate equipment and crew. They probably could have found a dozen very qualified people to fly the player for free just for the publicity - people with turboprops or even small jets.

[@recoilrob324]

The Malibu is a high-dollar aircraft and perfectly adequate for the short flight from France to England if in good mechanical condition. It wasn't the fact that it was a Malibu....it was that it wasn't being maintained properly and wasn't being flown competently that ended in their deaths. I worked across the runway from Piper back in the early '90's and knew people who worked there....and the Malibu did have a fairly high accident rate due to it being rated as 'all weather' which it seemed the people buying them thought meant that they could fly straight through thunderstorms...which is just stupid. Turbocharged pressurized aircraft need careful maintenance or they'll kill you just like any other aircraft and the CO poisoning no doubt was from the exhaust system fault that was being ignored. Whomever was supposed to be maintaining that aircraft should have been investigated and charged.

[@easttexan2933]

1994,,,, I was thinking the same thing.

[@JustMe-fo4ev]

Can you please let me know what first class airline is making a 300 mile flight between 2 non-major cities?

[@Vejitasei]

@@JustMe-fo4ev I think the OP was referring to the fact that they could afford to charter flight, and there are multiple charter companies that are more reputable than this one. It’s a tragedy all around, particularly given the fact that there are so many other options of available. As often as the case, the flying public does not have the full skill necessary to tell whether somebody’s confident, that’s why we partly trust on the authorities or regulate things. Yes, he has his gut instinct, but if you’re being reassured by all parties, things are OK. Many people simply go along.

[@hb1338]

Your coverage of this ghastly story is thorough and accurate. Here are a few more details. The crash aircraft (N264DB) was managed on behalf of its’ owner (Fay Keely) by David Henderson, an aircraft broker. The plane was registered in the USA and using it for any form of commercial flying into, out of or within the UK was a breach of both UK law and CAA regulations. Furthermore, those regulations state that aircraft hire for *any* purpose may be offered and executed only by duly licensed companies and individuals, and that all parties in the hire are jointly and severally liable for their actions. Neither Henderson nor his company held such a licence; according to regulation, both Henderson and McKay (the source hirer, see below) are legally liable for this breach. Henderson employed David Ibbotson as a pilot in direct and deliberate contravention of the owner’s instructions; those instructions were issued after Ibbotson was twice caught flying in breach of CAA regulations. Henderson was recruited by Willie McKay, who was acting as an intermediary (agent) in Emiliano Sala’s transfer. McKay was in breach of FA (Football Association) regulations because he was not a licensed agent. Cardiff was happy to pay for Sala to travel on commercial flights, but that would have prevented him from returning to Cardiff in time to prepare for the club’s next match, so McKay offered to arrange private flights - this explains Ibbotson’s strong desire to get back to the UK as soon as possible. McKay was breaking UK aviation law by hiring Henderson - quite why he has not been prosecuted for his actions is something of a mystery. Very soon after the crash, McKay disappeared. In June 2021, he was acquitted on two charges of fraudulent disposal of property (he was bankrupt at the time), and in February 2024, Cardiff sued him for failing to honour a legal agreement under which he was supposed to provide Cardiff with all the documentation he holds regarding Mr Sala’s transfer. For his part in this ghastly story, David Henderson was sentenced in November 2021 to 18 months in jail. Two employees of the company which operates the CCTV service in Royal Bournemouth Hospital were sentenced to 14 months and 5 months in jail for watching Sala’s autopsy, both live and from a recording. Ugh. There was an ugly row between Cardiff and Nantes football clubs about whether Sala was a Cardiff or Nantes player when he died and therefore whether or not Cardiff was liable to pay for his transfer. A court ruled in favour of Nantes. In the UK, there is unfortunately a well-established “grey” market, where unlicensed brokers employ pilots on a casual basis to provide flight taxi services at rates substantially below those quoted by properly qualified, properly licensed and properly regulated brokers and pilots.

[@randywl8925]

Forget the pilots for a moment. Who owned the plane which had obviously been neglected? No, im not giving the pilot a pass.

[@kernow9324]

I wasn't aware that Emiliano was deeply unconscious by the time the plane crashed. As if losing his life unnecessarily wasn't bad enough, pictures of his body in the mortuary were widely circulated on social media. The perpetrators were jailed.

[@betsyj59]

David Henderson: 18 months.

[@Sashazur]

I’m glad the people who stole or leaked the photos were jailed, but they wouldn’t have done that if there wasn’t sufficient public desire to see them. People are ghouls.

[@CJamesGoode]

I am already a Risk averse Person, I spint 20 years telling my Dispatcher "No" when I thought things were unsafe. Watching your Debriefs, just makes me think "If there is even the small problem, and it can't resolved before Flight, Just walk away."

[@richardhowe5583]

"you can't fix stupid" But stupid can kill

[@minnyh]

This was big news at the time. Thanks for your usual "to the point" debrief. No fluff just the facts and sensible interpretations.

[@johnmorrison8942]

Thanks!

[@pilot-debrief]

You bet!

[@MrMarkaverett]

I really enjoy your channel and happy to be a member. Thank you so much for your hard work and dedication to bringing us such great debriefings. Did you get named "Hoover" after the famous fighter pilot Bob Hoover?

[@pilot-debrief]

Thank you so much! My callsign isn't related to Bob Hoover. I'll have to save that story for another day!

[@MrMarkaverett]

Can't wait to hear the story!@@pilot-debrief

[@Taketimeout3]

There is no story. He isnt a pilot at all. He even claimed to be former F16 pilot. In fact both comments were put up by "hoover" himself.

[@alisonh3360]

@@Taketimeout3 Huh? He has a vid on his background, qualifications, etc., including the fact that Hoover is a callsign. Bet you don't have proof of what you've said. Geez, cheeky.

[@libertine5606]

Dave Grohl, of the Foo Fighters, has been posting pics on his private jet. I have been leaving comments that he needs a pilot who doesn't know who the Foo Fighters are. Probably thinks they are a bunch of hippies and is retired military or airliner pilot. One that maybe lectured them that if there is dangerous weather they ain't flying. Rock stars and athletes don't have a good history with planes. So you better have the best pilots who are willing to say no to you no matter how important the trip may seem to be. As far as this clown show this is why to use your Commercial in the U.S. you can't go over 50 miles or at night without a Instrument Rating.

[@fuffoon]

Grohl is one rocker that has a good head on his shoulders.

[@Mr_Hugh_Janus]

@@fuffoonThe same can’t be said about Kurt Cobain, after April 5th 1994

[@PolPotsPieHole]

@@Mr_Hugh_Janus dude? too early? lol

[@sarahalbers5555]

I had Dave Grohl and his entourage on a flight to Frankfurt, or it could have been Milan. Dave was super nice, and no one in the band got drunk or obnoxious. Hopefully he is bright enough to hire a real, qualified pilot.

[@415volts]

Fully agree - only need to look at the Aaliyah tragedy 2001. Pilot didn't say no to the weight limit due likely to being in 'awe' and pressurised from them all.

[@kaboom9081]

Reminds me of this experience. I once went to the bank at 11pm to withdraw cash to go meet some friends and as I waited for the machine to dispense the cash, a man stood by the outside door, he wasn't even trying to get in and he turned his face away. I put the cash in my pocket and before I pushed the door open, I saw a car revving the gas ready to take off while the man stood outside the door hiding his face, I pulled my hand away from the door handle and headed back to the machine where I picked up a service phone and as I did that, they took off. Point of my story, LISTEN to your gut feeling. God bless.

[@JerBuster77]

Bro, Taco Bell aint worth going to a shady bank atm location at 11pm. Jokes aside, glad you were safe in the end.

[@jannetcalvert]

Thank you for your thorough break down and bringing light to failures in the aviation industry. Your efforts are of great value to pilots and passengers!

[@alistairross4317]

Another insightful analysis. This channel is, without a doubt, one of the jewels in the KZbin crown. As always Hoover, your dispassionate and professional approach and analysis of these incidents makes for compulsive viewing. I have never flown an aircraft but I have the utmost respect and admiration for those that do, regardless of them flying a light aircraft or fast combat jet. At my age now, I shall remain content to be an enthusiastic spectator!

[@C414AC]

Wow. This is negligence of the highest order.

[@JohnnyJohns-eb9qb]

Never, ever go up in a plane with a pilot who gives thumbs up. Flying is deadly serious work and you need deadly serious pilots. Or you may end up seriously dead.

[@codymoe4986]

Deadly serious? Seriously?

[@paulrun111]

A thumbs up doesn't make me think reckless.

[@andredarin8966]

Even if it’s to escape an Island in the crosshairs of a tsunami, about to have a Krakatoa-caliber volcanic eruption, or an invasion of killer bees?

[@fkcoolers2669]

I don't think it's nearly as simple as that.

[@180mph9]

👍🏼

[@charleyrichardson8211]

That guy should have never flew himself or that poor soccer star rip

[@Australiaisupsidedown]

nah i thought it went well

[@maxieduardoapariciom.3181]

they killed him to get the insurance, pirates still killing catholics.

[@terryboehler5752]

It's a mirage. Was the wing intact?

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@maxieduardoapariciom.3181are you going to put this under every comment? No they didn’t do that for the insurance. Have some respect for the victims.

[@cpeastvideoproduction5620]

Even though the stories are somber, I find your delivery such a pleasure to listen to. The Information you give your viewers and the ability to turn these reports into such a captivating story is so well done!

[@rocketPower047]

Where do they find these pilots? In the classifieds?

[@maxieduardoapariciom.3181]

they killed him to get the insurance, pirates still killing catholics.

[@sarahalbers5555]

What are you talking about?​@@maxieduardoapariciom.3181

[@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg]

Graffiti on Public Lavatory Wall's

[@rmp5s]

That voicemail...oof...brutal.

[@rmp5s]

@user-tx7oj7yw8h Obvious troll is obvious. Go away.

[@speedfinder1]

An interesting review but it seems to point a finger at the authorities in the Islands for not doing more to assist the two people aboard this aircraft. I live local to the scene of the crash-site. The sea around the Islands is some of the most dangerous on the planet when extreme tides and very deep water. The area just off Alderney and close to the crash site is known locally as "The race!" Small vessels have been know to have been sucked under by the sheer force of the water running through there It is a very dangerous place to go into the water, even in a proper life raft. The Air-search service here in the Channel Islands, is a privately funded service (Mostly through "Nickels and dimes" being put in to charity boxes stationed around the islands on the island's businesses etc. ) There are limits to how long you can stay aloft with no Government funding. Likewise, the sea search service here is privately funded and again there are limits to the amount of time you can look for someone if no-one else is paying for the fuel for the search vessel. ( Again the funding is all, nickels and dimes donated from the public at charity events throughout the year.) Those of us who have lived in the islands like me, for nearly 60 years, know from bitter experience, that your survival time in the water where the plane went down would be a few minutes, not even hours. The plane in this incident was not recovered from the sea bed due to the extreme conditions in the area. Shortly after Mr Sala was recovered, it was reported in the local media that the plane had been moved again by the action of the currents. It is reported locally that the plane has been completely destroyed and the debris removed by the movement of the water. On the night in question, it was bad weather, very cold and pitch black! I remember it well. Since the end of the second world war, multiple incidents like this have happened here and the only survivors have been those who ditched in good weather, during the daytime and who were able to give their EXACT position prior to ditching. MOST are rarely found.

[@maxieduardoapariciom.3181]

they killed him to get the insurance, pirates still killing catholics.

[@Peter-gi3re]

really stupid comment

[@sarahalbers5555]

Thank you for your comment. I flew to London as flight attendant many times to visit my family. My dad was born in Wales. The weather in this area can be absolutely brutal. I remember one time going to Heathrow and we couldn't land due to freezing fog . The visibility was minimal. People like this pilot should never be allowed in a cockpit. Such a sad, sad story.

[@AvroBus]

I spent two years, back in the 90s, flying Trislanders for Aurigny based in Alderney. Flying low over those waters you can cleariy see The Race and The Swinge churning away!! I was always glad for the three engines of the Trislander.

[@pilot-debrief]

Thanks for the amplifying details. I meant no disrespect to the search and rescue service.

[@riptide6161]

Your analysis is outstanding. Thank you. You always handle the "personal" issues with maturity, grace, and intelligence. Even the painful critiques that must be done so we do not repeat mistakes others have made. Those that listen, and adjust their behavior, have acquired the first level of wisdom.

[@ThomStanton]

Nicely done. Well played dramatic pace snd reveals. Appreciate the the info and your assessments.

[@HealthyMindProject]

When I was learning to fly, my instructor took me up on a cloudy day, and we ended up in IMC just doing the traffic pattern, I got really disoriented. When we landed, he told me he had done this to show me not to f*ck with the weather. How could someone with 3500 hours, take the decision to fly in IMC at night without a night rating? Speechless.

[@alisonwilson9749]

And that's not even counting the other infringements, like taking paid passengers, etc.

[@bobdobalina838]

I don't understand, if the guy was worth 20 million why did he settle for some chump in a beat up airplane?

[@anjou6497]

He was not informed in time.

[@johndough1703]

They didn’t. They hired a competent pilot who passed his work on to an unqualified amateur. He should be held financially responsible along with the owner for poor maintenance of his fleet.

[@anjou6497]

@@johndough1703 Exactly. Tragically, Emilio was set into a nest of vipers. Cowardly, greedy connections/powers that be re that crappy plane, and Ibestson, the pilot, whose lack of responsibility was disgraceful. The thought that it took several take off attempts is horrendous. Should've been an aborted take off. If only Emilio was more aware and able to take an alternative flight. It will always infuriate me. A beautiful young soul was lost in the most horrible way. ⚘️

[@chaitanyaaysola6855]

It seems Emiliano was not experienced enough as a customer in General Aviation, despite his bank account and social status.

[@nickkerr5714]

Naivete

[@dwaynemcallister7231]

So CO was the big factor if I understand correctly. Even a qualified pilot won't help if he is put to sleep or killed from CO.

[@JimmyDevere]

Well a qualified pilot wouldn't have been flying that piece of junk in the first place.

[@elduderino1635]

Yes, finally someone with enough biological/chemical knowledge mentions that... If you get unconscious from CO, you are most propably dead, even with intensive medical care.

[@greathornedowl3644]

Thank you for the straightforward review. IMHO most crashes involve a series of unfortunate events, it is rarely one thing only

[@saracastillo9309]

It’s always important to learn the background and flight experience of your pilot. Great video…..devastating, but very informative, thank you ❤

[@PaulJakma]

Looking a bit further, it appears the owner of the aircraft, Cool Flourish Ltd (a vehicle for a Fay Keely and her family it appears) had *banned* Ibbottson from flying the aircraft 6 months previously, after the CAA had reported "airspace infringements" to them. However, they had left the operation of the aircraft to Dave Henderson - mentioned in this video - who it appears continued to contract Ibbottson to fly it. One might surmise there is a case to be answered by David Henderson as to what kind of cowboy operation he was running, around both the qualifications of the pilots he was hiring, and the maintenance of the aircraft.

[@PaulJakma]

From other comments, it appears Henderson was tried for reckless endangerment of safety of an aircraft, and admitted other offences, and was sentenced to 18 months of prison in 2021.

[@abdulmismail]

While it's true that the IMC rating, now called Instrument Rating (Restricted), is an "IR-lite", the flying does include a great deal of what actual IR ratings include - but you just don't need to pass all 7 ground school exams. As Hoover said, it's a "get home" licence but while you can use an IMC in European airspace, you can file for a VFR flight and during the flight, once you're back in UK airspace, you can contact ATC for temporary IMC and "Traffic Service" (which I believe is something similar to "flight following" in the US) just to get through the clouds. After when you have to return to VMC/VFR. Either way, this accident hit the news here in the UK and it was a real mystery for weeks. Speculation: I have a feeling that Ibbotson may have survived the impact and tried to escape. As GA pilots know, when you're about the crash land, you unlock the hatch so he'll have been able to escape while Emiliano Sala will have been strapped in, in the back. Exiting the aircraft would have resulted in Ibbotson because swept away by the currents.

[@pilot-debrief]

Thanks for sharing the extra details on the IR(R)!

[@grebulocities8225]

Surely he couldn't have been alive and conscious enough to try to escape if he hit the water at 280 knots.

[@abdulmismail]

@@grebulocities8225 It was pure speculation on my part. I honestly don't know. No one does. It was a point of discussion of the aviation community, here in the UK, for many months.

[@jaytowne8016]

60 years old, and 3000 hours is a bad combination... 60 yrs old and 10,000 hours is fine

[@chaitanyaaysola6855]

Thank You for publishing on this unfortunate event. Did not know about this case till 2024.

[@tomjones2348]

This presentation needs to go into the "Best of Hoover" files. Well written, edited, and great investigation work! Thank you, Hoover!

[@MervynPartin]

If I remember correctly, the flight was arranged by the player's agent, and not Cardiff City Football Club.

[@AndrewBartley]

That’s exactly right. The club have been hammered in the press and social media. But they wanted him to fly commercial. This was declined. The flight was arranged the facilitating agent.

[@rjac001]

Hey Hoover, can you please do some videos where the pilots save the plane and everybody survives.

[@pilot-debrief]

The NTSB doesn't investigate those in most cases. I've got a few videos where passengers have landed the plane, one where the airline pilot dies on takeoff and the First Officer lands the plane, and a few where student pilots were able to land with emergencies. If you have a good story in mind, shoot me an email and I'll look into it!

[@Soundbrigade]

Hoover makes great videos covering a lot about the smaller aircrafts, that doesn’t get that much publicity. I also watch Mentour Pilot who covers major accidents AND incidents (with a happy ending). I’d love to see Hoover and Petter (Mentour Pilot) do a video together as they both are great story tellers and extremely skilled and these cooperations are ALWAYS fantastic as 1+1=4 in those cases.

[@bryancoombesart]

So the actual crash event would have been due to a VFR pilot flying IMC under the effects of carbon monoxide poisoning, straining to maintain consciousness AND control. Jeez that's rough, not to mention all the other issues Hoover noted. Talk about a doomed flight.

[@ocalaFL954]

I know next to nothing about aviation, but your debriefs are always so interesting Thanks

[@pilot-debrief]

Glad you like them!

[@meowcats787]

I remember being a kid, sad that he died. Seeing this a few years later brings back memories. Awesome analysis as always!

[@alexkalish8288]

I am more qualified to fly that plane than this guy . No instrument rating flying in the UK is really impossible. There is a TVG high speed train from Nantes to Paris and he could have taken the euro express to London and Cardiff. He would have been there in the morning after a good dinner and it's much more comfortable than the Malibu - What kind of pilot takes off saying he's wearing his life Jacket ??