Which SCANNER Should I Get?? (Launch Diagun V vs. ThinkTool PROS)

[@Frank-pv1hp]

The Launch touchscreen looks like it is not very responsive at times. Is this your impression?

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Good eye! I have contacted the seller about this issue. Never had this problem with the older Diagun IV, but the Diagun V seemed to be non-responsive at times.

[@phillloyd8625]

I do not seem o have any issues on my V

[@HouseCallAutoRepair]

Could it be because of the screen type, touch sensitive to finger, soft stylus, or pen. If I use a pen type, or my less greased finger nail, my scanner goes bonkers!

[@fredsalter1915]

Can you get a firmware update that could help?

[@satamanschmidt3428]

I appear to be an alien. I say that because I don't float when thrown into water, I sink like a brick, and touchscreens don't respond to my fingers. I use a stylus with my Diagun V since my fingers don't do anything with it. The stylus I use has what looks like a steel wool end on it. (although of course it isn't) and it's about a 1/4" in diameter.

[@KarateSensei71]

I am only a hobbyist and have a few big boy "toys" I mess with. I went with the Launch X431 Diagun V+ Pro. I love how Ivan shows his methods, offers his advice, and freely shares with his followers. He is a class act.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Thanks Dr. Craig! Happy Thanksgiving!

[@KarateSensei71]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Same to you Ivan, your lovely wife, and family, God Bless.

[@edwinlomonaco6754]

I personally use both the Autel pro and Ultra. And an Autel AL539 for quick scans, battery tests and multimeter. Being that the shop I work requires inspections get done for every vehicle the AL539 is an essential. I feel scantools are a combination of preference and needs. Some scantools are better at one thing or another than others. No one scantool does everything the best. And depending on what you work on the most will dictate what you'll need in terms of scantool tooling. Everything the Thinktool does the Autel does. Saving reports. Complete scans. Etc. But I'm sure at some point there will be a car that the Autel will have issues with where the Thinktool won't. If you're a professional diagnostician you need multiple scantools. If you're a hobbyist a Thinktool will be more than enough.

[@DormantIdeasNIQ]

Does the Autel allow programming of used and new modules?

[@edwinlomonaco6754]

@@DormantIdeasNIQ Depends on what you're programming. For most modules yes it will. But for some you'll need the Autel pass through. And for key programming they make a dedicated tool that programs key fobs/intelligent keys. Most manufacturers require subscriptions regardless. So ultimately if you're going to be doing a lot of programming and or updates you'll need the individual licensing associated with each manufacturer. In which case you don't need a scantool. Autel will allow some module programming. But that really boils down to what the manufacturers will let you do more than the scantools ability to program.

[@richardautenzio8117]

I have a brand new Autel AL 539 and never use it. I did use it a few times and then one day it wouldn't turn on. Itwas under warranty but Autel refused to repair or replace it under warranty so I refused to ever buy another Autel product again. They did me a favour in a way because I have bought several Launch products since and their scanners like Topdon offer me lifetime free updates. That fact alone has saved me a lot more than the cheap brand new Autel Al 539 cost me.

[@richardautenzio8117]

I have a cabinet full of car electronic tools and scanners. I have found that brands like Launch and Topdon offer the best products and after sales service. And most of my Launch and Topdon products offer me free full lifetime updates. Personally I have found that other big brands names like Autel do not deliver a product and service ike Launch. I have a brand new Launch AL539 which worked fine a few times but when it wouldn't turn on under the warranty Autel would not even repair or replace it under their one year warranty. They played me around for 6 months until it was out of warranty. It's still got the original clear plastic protection over the screen for Christ sake. Like new. Anyway they probably did me a big favour because I discovered Launch and they offer me the best product over a much larger range of cars with full free lifetime updates which has saved me much more than the Autel products have cost me.

[@ghost37666]

Autel is much better IMHO but no scanner can do it all indeed.

[@edthompsom9368]

Thank you for this demo! I started with a simple code reader, then got an Autel maxicheck 808 but all of your Thinktool PROS demos in your videos has me wanting to move to that next.

[@DependableAutoTruck]

what i did was bought the smaller one and then downloaded software to my samsung S-4 tablet where i had a 10" screen works great and has a stylus

[@mattcat231]

I've been wondering if that would work

[@GeneG-wk2mz]

Can you get all. The function like the pro with key program ?

[@DependableAutoTruck]

@@mattcat231 yes downloaded software from launch site works great and runs faster

[@DependableAutoTruck]

@@GeneG-wk2mz everything works except easier to read and faster because processor is faster on the s4 tablet and love the stylus

[@jtjones4727]

Wow that's incredible. I can't believe I didn't think of that first. I'm gonna make a copy of all the .apk files on my zurich zr pro, and see if I can install them on another device with bluetooth. I mean, I can't think of any reason why that wouldn't work.

[@unclemarksdiyauto]

Great side by side video Ivan. One thing I might have missed is subscription costs and how many vehicles that covers. Might be something for another video.

[@MartinBlass]

I got the DiagunV and it is pretty rad. Actuation tests, coding... More than happy as a hobbyist.

[@fredsalter1915]

+2 for using "rad" in your comment!!!

[@patsuddarth1093]

Could the Diagun V, really program new ECU's? Could it also program a new BCM? And, does it really do crankshaft sensor and cam shaft sensor relearns?

[@gianfrancoa]

Thanks for the review Ivan. One thing that was overlooked in these reviews is the cost of ownership based on the yearly licensing. For a professional is not a problem, but forna DIY could it be

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

No yearly licensing fees, plus two years free updates!

[@robertpate8984]

Really like the content , you inspired me not to throw money at the problem. Nissan Titan won't take a 710 CCA battery. It will die overnight but will take 910 CCA with no issue .

[@weldingjunkie]

Launch makes Thinkcar , same servers etc. I love the price of Thinkcar and the form factors. You can use the scope on both as well etc. the pro doesn’t have topology but the pros does as well as the S20 we have are incredible especially lifetime subscription

[@SMOKEY-JAYS-DIESEL]

Don't waste your money 💲💰 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKi5oHiIf7aEm68 Just get the XTOOL D9 PRO 🤷‍♂️🙏🏻👏

[@trublue2319]

Do you got any black Friday deals?

[@weldingjunkie]

@@trublue2319 I do the pros is $999 ($1199 retail) and the s20 5 year promo with 5 year subscription , oscilloscope, tmps wand, bt battery tester, inspection scope for $4700 ($5000) retail. Let me know if interested

[@dudleymilbin5599]

I started watching your video for the first minute and a half and I already you have to say straight to the point lots of information in the short time. Great job 👍

[@pantherplatform]

I got the strap on solus. Does almost everything, especially automated bleed. I gotta be able to graph live data, especially O² sensors

[@sirsweetness8332]

Good exponent on the sensor description

[@fredsalter1915]

"strap on" lol!!!

[@bobspreng611]

I really enjoyed this video. I would love to see more ProS tutorials, especially TPMS and programming remotes. Thank you.

[@baxrok2.]

Makes me wish I hadn't already bought two scanners. These new tools are super nice. Thanks Ivan!

[@kastooMcFry]

I have a launch 431 but was debating to get a thinktool, just based on what you've shown it can do. It appears to some more capabilities on some cars. Thank you for your review, Ivan!

[@globalcommerce7654]

These tools are all the same, clones of each other..

[@kastooMcFry]

@@globalcommerce7654 No, now that I have received my 20% discounted (### Thanks for the Tip, Ivan!! ### ) ThinkTool PROS in. I don't think one is a copy of the other. The thinktool seems to do a lot more, just in terms of saving data and telemetry on a vehicle to vehicle basis, allowing pre and post repair reports. That's a nice feature. You can save telemetry, photos, notes, etc from the looks of it. Comparing it by hooking it into a Honda CRV, it has more functions and pids. The interface is much faster. Some dialog boxes look similar but that's likely a function of whatever tool they used to develop the software. It scans fast too. The hierarchical view is new to me - it makes it all very clear. I haven't fixed anything with it yet but will try the launch and thinktool side by side.

[@globalcommerce7654]

@@kastooMcFry I say that they are the same as in core software and obd2 tool, just with minor modifications as you mentioned,.

[@MC-mh2ju]

If you only own one car or only buy one brand of car, and don't need bi-directional controls, the best FULL SYSTEM OBD2 scanner is the Walmart HyperTough HT200 Bluetooth dongle for only $50. It uses the same vehicle-specific software as the high-end Autel, TopDon, Launch or ThinkCar/ThinkTool scanners and includes 14 reset/service functions at no additional cost.

[@higherregion]

coming from an autel, i just bought an Xtool d8 bluetooth...amazing scanner, with 3 years of free updates

[@DormantIdeasNIQ]

yeah... Ivan, you are one of the best out there... but to do programming of new modules the Thinktool proS+ is needed, so the game has not gone cheap yet... it takes 2+K to get a full function scanning tool. Thank you a lot for your reviews.

[@dans_Learning_Curve]

Maybe making a playlist for diagnostic tools and put this video and your other ones in it. Refer people to it when asked about scanners. Great video.

[@Micko350]

My Launch X431 V+ 10" has a spot to click the Dongle into the back! I just remembered I was supposed to send you a video of the program running on my old Samsung Galaxy 5 phone!

[@jamesbruno5896]

Happy Thanksgiving to you & Amanda bro great content as always!

[@craiggoodwin9704]

Thanks Ivan, That was a really good overview of these tools. Something to consider over a great Thanksgiving dinner. Speaking of, don't eat too much turkey or else you won't be able to fit in a car with all of those tools. Wishing you and your family a Happy Thanksgiving. Thanks for Sharing!

[@Sandmansa]

I've had a Launch X431 Pad II for a good while now, back when I was working at the local Volvo dealer. I generally only worked on Volvo's, Mercedies and BMWs back then. It was far better than the shop's Snap-On scanner on those types of cars. Admittedly, it's pretty slow on initial bootup. But once it's up and running, it's reasonably fast. My only hang-up on it is that Launch scanners seem to be a bit lacking in TPMS support for a lot of cars. And now that I work for a body shop that works on practically everything under the sun, I'm beginning to wonder if I should consider upgrading.

[@vw5056]

Doesnt BMW and Mercedes use their own program like VCDS for VW/Audi vehicles?

[@Hybriddiag]

Nice detailed video.as a car tech i think you need to have as many optional tools as you can in your sleve to get the job done.as i have seen in your videos some tools dont give a proper info on all cars so its a nice info video.cheers✌

[@simms196]

Hello Ivan, I'm looking to buy a scanner after watching so many of your videos. I'm just a diy guy but have several delivery vehicles at work to maintain & keep road worthy. I also own

[@georgenice]

Thanks Ivan....Would be amazing as a follow up to compare the in depth coverage.....and special functions....

[@Tomsfoolery.]

Thanks for making this comparison video! This must be why you didn't give me a direct answer when I asked a few weeks ago lol. I see a ThinkTool in my near future.

[@AP9311]

Ivan, good demonstration on the think pro and diagun V. Good timing on both. Diagun V is perfect for on the go jobs, think pro is perfect for deeper and detailed information on jobs in site. Since i have Launch crp129x Scan tool, it's what i could afford to get at the time. I like it, but think pro would be better for me in detailed work. I am particularly interested in screen capture, screen recording while live data, but software updates? Lifetime updates or subscription? That's what will influence my choice. I like both! Great demo! 👍

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Thanks for the comment, Josh! No supscription costs, and 2 years free updates. You won't need to update the software at all unless you run into brand-new 2021 or newer cars :)

[@grantwood4186]

Thank you Ivan, you've made my mind up, I'm going to go with the Thinktool pro, thank you for giving your views on these scanners, kind regards Grant.

[@Graham_Wideman]

Do attend to the difference between ProS, which Ivan showed, versus Pro (no S) that is a lower model.

[@JimmyMakingitwork]

Good review Ivan. I prefer my Launch Torque, but recently bought a ThinkDiag to try, hoping using a phone with a dongel would be very convenient, pretty disappointed in it though, very few bidirectional functions even though it's advertised as bidirectional, it does very few things in that category. Only $130 but basically a code reader with some randomly added oem functions.

[@OnlineMechanicTips]

Great video bud, I struggle with such questions from viewers on what such scan tool to get.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Thanks JT! Technology has come a long way, it is amazing what these tools are capable of, especially for the price!

[@davidhollfelder9940]

Just got my new Thinktool Pros .. it will be some time before “mastering” this tool.😮

[@2nickles647]

I'm a DYI mechanic. Purchased the launch 431x. I'm happy with my purchase. I spent about 1k total. I bought extended warranty. I got what I need. Since I'm a tad older. The bigger screen helps. I have not tested as to the battery life. Since I have internet at home. I can do a search on my tablet. Plus I can add more graphs. Of course the cost is the updates. I did get a 2 year free update. Now that's expired. Got to wait till I get mo $$ for the update. When I first started buying scanners. I went cheap. It was what I could afford at the time. The biggest plus is I can actuate pumps. Valves ect .

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Don't worry about the updates until you get a brand-new car that isn't covered by the existing software :) I have never paid for an update...just buy a new scanner every 5 years or so!

[@2nickles647]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics I have not bought a new yet..Maybe next year if I'm good.😄😄

[@keithwelton]

Surely there is somewhere that will test the engine computer for you? Here in the U.K. I used ECUtesting to test my Honda Civic diesel computer, it failed, and they then repaired it for about £330 total including postage. Testing only costs about £60.

[@dans_Learning_Curve]

Being my newest vehicle is a 2003 Forester, I really still can "use" my Red Brick! However, I have friends with newer vehicles and that boat anchor stopped floating years ago. (Got it free... LoL 🤣😆) Just need to convince my wife an updated scanner would be good to have.

[@sjn7220]

Owning Fords I just use forscan. Not as nice of a user interface but it gets the job done for cheap and my needs are limited. Was able to use it to turn off the TPMS when the sensor batteries finally died. Too cheap to pay $400 to get them replaced. 😄

[@brianw8963]

Got the diagun4 back when You first got Yours and did that review, what was it, couple years ago or so. Been a great tool! That thinkcar looks like a great one to get! Thanks Ivan 👍

[@Mr2004MCSS]

Nice video. I bought the Thinktool Pros last month based on Ivan's recommendation. They had it on sale for about $970 plus a $99 off coupon so with that plus a small Amazon points balance I was able to pick it up for around $856. It's a very nice scanner and I have already used it on a couple of vehicles. I'm just a DIY'er but wanted something a lot better than what I had. I will point out that the Pros is a discontinued model and the new equivalent is the Thinkcar Platinum S10 which Thinkcar is having a 30% off sale right now. The S10 is more expensive at $1,499 but with the discount will be cheaper. I believe it offers a few things that the Pros doesn't like internet access. I have also bought some of the modules that you can use with the Pros and their Platinum series of scanners and they are pretty nice as well. One that I did buy is the scope because I wanted a four channel scope and this works well with the scanner.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Thank you for the info! Would be interesting to try the 4 channel scope...

[@Graham_Wideman]

Where do you see the 30% sale on the Platinum? You probably can't post a link, but could you mention the vendor?

[@MTLeopold]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics From what I can find there are two versions of the scope. One for the Pros and one for the mini or PD8. CARiD has a sale going now. Too many model #s that all look the same to me.

[@leoashrae4199]

We still use the Diagun IV in our shop. But, since we do a lot of Jeep and Dodge trucks, it isn't much use to us anymore. Remember, the Diagun IV is not blessed by AutoAuth so you can't get the Diagun past the FCA security gateway. Launch USA has other scan tools that are AutoAuth compliant but, the Diagun isn't one of them. Of our three scan tools the Diagun is great on Asian but, the Autel Maxisys 908 and the Snap-On Apollo D-9 are the go-to scan tools for everything else.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Sounds like the ThinkTool PROS would replace all those scanners with flying colors :)

[@leoashrae4199]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Perhaps... Hey Ivan... as long as I can get it fixed if there's a problem. That's still the one (and pretty much the only) advantage the tool truck has over the tools available to consumers. If my old Verus broke down (or even my new Apollo for that matter), I get a loaner for as long as it takes to get my tool fixed (for FREE). My Snap-On guy is pretty good. When my Verus had a close encounter with a power steering pulley (it's feeling MUCH better now), he loaned me a Zeuss. for over a month. I think he thought I'd buy it, but I got the Apollo instead.

[@veegroove]

I just found you while you were working on the Mercedes I have a 99 s420 and I am a car fanatic wish you were closer I am in Florida now I see why you don’t use snap on we will be in touch soon

[@stealthg35infiniti94]

Ivan good comparison on the Think Tools ... Would you do just a Spreadsheet on the different Scanners with the major Pros and Cons...I know in the past ,European cars preferred one tool over another...Then post 1996 cars are finicky to other units...For the DIY, My main concern is paying a yearly fee with some units for each brand of cars.

[@Anonymous-it5jw]

Yearly fees are a great point - one KZbinr recently recommended a great scanner, in his judgment, which I respect, but it proved difficult for me to access any of the free software for all vehicles that was promised. It was hard to determine if the problem was just a temporary software glitch, or a promise intentionally not honored by the manufacturer/distributor, since buyers had little or no recourse. However, over several days of trying to get the included software I had paid for, I noticed that purchasers were conveniently offered a way to easily purchase the modules you might need at considerable cost per module for each manufacturer and specific model line of its vehicles, if I remember correctly. What I do vividly remember is that the extra cost of having to purchase expensive specific software modules, for the scanner to be usable, immediately converted this purchase into a non-starter, and a trap for unwary purchasers. Luckily I had purchased it from Amazon and I returned it within the 30-day return window, rather than take a chance. Others, if they got the promised software, may have received a wonderful tool, and I hope they did.

[@Graham_Wideman]

I'd love to see an explanation of how the popular scanners relate to each other (like which ones share software and update providers), and also why it seems quite difficult to figure out which is the manufacturer website corresponding to especially the Launch products. It's almost like there are multiple Launch companies. Or different sets of products for different markets, with the Diagun being imported to the US through some back door or something. I'm not saying there's necessarily anything shady, just it's puzzling.

[@MC-mh2ju]

As someone who owns several OBD2 scanners, I have noticed that Autel, Launch, TopDon, ThinkCar/Thinktool, and Mucar all use the same software. The only difference is the hardware and maybe some reset/special functions and bi-directional controls or actuation tests.

[@ghost37666]

@@MC-mh2ju They are all the same like you've said except for the Autel, it's uniquely different than the others in the software.

[@prospexican]

I love the smart scan. Planing to get a thinktool

[@VS-me7ff]

With all the different scanners that you use which one is your go to scanner

[@ferrumignis]

I'd love to see a review of the ThinkTool Mini, it seems to be very well priced at the moment.

[@weldingjunkie]

That’s a DIY tool you have to pay for makes

[@diydantex6150]

What about replacing modules that need to be programmed? For instance Ford electric power steering or GM fuel pump module. I have an Autel MK808 it does a lot but i want more. Thanks for your reviews and videos.

[@somerandomguy3868]

Thanks for the recommendations, happy Thanksgiving to you and yours

[@sanctealphonse4510]

All my vehicles are pre 2006 and I bought both the diagn IV and the Autel MaxiPRO MP808K with the intention of sending back the one I didn't like (free Amazon returns). I ended up keeping the Autel due to bigger screen size, nicer graphing options, and one continuous page for active pids on the data stream. If you activate all the pids on the diagn and need to see the next page it loads for a while and it was driving me nuts. Plus the small text was a little annoying. if I had to buy today I would go with the pros.

[@ghost37666]

The MP808 is a very good unit.

[@DevonBbrown]

How much is the subscription cost for the maxipro?

[@sanctealphonse4510]

@@DevonBbrown I don't know - you get free updates for the 1st year or two and that's all I did as I don't own any newer vehicles so don't need the updates. You don't need a subscription to keep running the unit - you'll just have access to the vehicles included in your updates. Mine is updated to 2022 vehicles. I imagine I'll never have to use it on that new of a vehicle. Take care!

[@williamwhitehead8362]

Hi, Happy thanksgiving and say Hi to your wife too plus the older dog!

[@weldingjunkie]

The Thinkcar Pro are not being manufactured anymore the replacement is the Thinkcar S10 platinum. Once the Pros are gone that’s it for them.

[@Graham_Wideman]

Are you saying that both Pro and ProS models are discontinued?

[@weldingjunkie]

@@Graham_Wideman yes sir, that’s correct. There are sellers that have them still but no more being made. The S10 has taken over that and a new one coming with CanFD

[@rrmech11]

Happy Thanksgiving Motoyam Like the think pro. Really like the Autel 908 Maxidas Bluetooth. 👍👍

[@Bobs540i]

Purchased the Thinktool pros after watching this video. Very pleased with the scanners functionality. I need to program a new key fob for a 2013 Chevy avalanche. Does this scanner have this capability?

[@dayntubee]

What do you think of the TOPDON PHOENIX PLUS vs Thinktool pros

[@CSkwirl]

So which one is best for programming Keys including proximity. In Australia this is a problem, dealers usually want over $600 on most cars, locksmiths around half that. You can buy the blank keys but you can't program them

[@jtjones4727]

The best thing you can get for programming keys would be some kind of specialized programmer, like the Autel IM608. It can do pretty much just about anything you can throw at it, not to mention the special hardware addons it has. Especially useful for programming smart keys. Aside from that, most of your higher end bi directional tools have pretty similar key/immo funtionality.

[@adotintheshark4848]

The Diagun V and the Think Tool ProS only have about $300 price difference between them. I'd lean to just getting the Think Tool to get by.

[@richardcoleman9645]

Glad you did this. Really helps. What about the bi lateral scanners that make the cars do test like evap system in specific please? I replaced the entire sensor and line all the way back and the price off the tank. Everything but the big square box between the frame. Been driving it for over 600 miles and it still won't test or what's called , be ready to read. Driving me crazy and need this for inspection.

[@richardcoleman9645]

I got the Launch por 909. Does alot but can't get it to test the evap after being told it would. Not sure what to do now. Can u help please? CRP 909 is the part number on it.

[@kevin9c1]

I was seriously considering the Diagun V a year ago. But I've since bought my second Mercedes and I think I am just going to put the money into the Star laptop setup so I can do modules and everything.

[@sirsweetness8332]

You are going to have to buy the dongle for $8.99 since you just bought a Mercedes. Good luck with those replacement costs.

[@kevin9c1]

@@sirsweetness8332 I bought an 04 E55 AMG in June 2020 and liked it so much I just bought an 07 S550 as a daily. The way I see it, I am putting my skills to work to be able to drive nice cars. The E55 was $9500 and the S550 was $12k. The E55 runs solid mid-12s and while an LS460 can probably do a reasonable approximation of my S550, it's not the same thing, at all. I am a GM guy so this is new territory but so far so good.

[@sirsweetness8332]

@@kevin9c1 I am a toyota/Lexus guy. Not into performance just reliability.

[@sirsweetness8332]

@@kevin9c1 I have my diesel truck if I need any torque or HP. It’s a Chevawreck and has kept me busy replacing parts. Have to do fuel lines today or tomorrow. Weather is stopping me.

[@shahislam9450]

Can you do an update of using the thinktool pros please ? How are you finding it ?

[@tmise50]

Guess a lot will do with the cost to update. I’m just a diyer and don’t want to spend a ton of $$ but would like a good scan tool. I’ve always done my own work but looks like an above average scan tool is a must have these days. Looking for one with bi-directional control, topology, fuel injector balancing, and good data stream capabilities in the $600-$800 range. Any recommendations?

[@ForTheManDIY]

Thanks for the ThinkTool Pros review. I ordered and received the amazon special. I will add that the literature states that you can continue to use the scanner even if you don't upgrade. I can find no source for what each adapter is used for. They appear to be OBD1 adapters. Do you simply go by physical fit to use the adapters? Is there a car vs adapter listing somewhere? My last question, can you use the phone app on this ThinkDiag unit once it is registered using the tablet? It appears that all the proprietary stuff is in the diag unit, not in the tablet.

[@shawnbauman5463]

I have a the Diagun V. I use it as a Nissan master tech when all the consults are in use. It does a LOT for the price. I can actually program keys on new Nissans faster with this than the consult. Go figure.

[@MTLeopold]

I find the marketing for ThinkTool a bit confusing. But would really love to see how the BT dongle and phone app compare to the full size tablet or even the 8" tablet.

[@MTLeopold]

Oh and Happy Thanksgiving Ivan!

[@RobertHancock1]

ThinkCar/ThinkTool seem to have adopted some of the confusing naming from Launch. The Bluetooth dongles they have seem attractive for DIYers, but the way the software is licensed it would get expensive if you had to work on multiple different brands of vehicle.

[@MTLeopold]

@@RobertHancock1 I thought they had a package that had all makes included. But yeah it's a bit pricey. I agree that SAAS is the right model for these but still. My other big question is what happens when your subscription expires? Does it brick the device?

[@RobertHancock1]

@@MTLeopold If it's like the Launch EasyDiag (which seems like the Think Bluetooth products in that it has full module access, except without bidirectional controls), it still works, you just can't get any more updated software for those vehicles.

[@fuseone]

So you sold me on the think tool. But what I wanted to know what made you go with the pros over the pro plus. Since I’m still undecided which one to get.

[@hikerJohn]

What would you recommend for 2010 and older? My F-250 Diesel is 2010 and my Jeep is 2002

[@weshawkins7165]

Man I procrastinated and didn’t get my order in by the deadline. Hopefully they will have another sale.

[@CKBrutus]

I have a few scan tools but the 3 I mainly use are the BlueDriver for small diagnosis the Autel MS906BT and then the Thinkcar Pros which You are using in this video. You’re absolutely right it’s a workhorse yet its also a lot faster than my Autel MS906BT. I just got a Autel AL539B which is great for Starting test alternator test voltage Readings etc. Another great video

[@nspgnosleepngang6033]

What best scan tool

[@johnmastr7901]

just pulled the trigger on The Launch Diagun V, happy turkey day Ivan and family.

[@justatech1990]

Thank you Ivan hope you have a happy thanksgiving i got the launch diagun because of you and your videos it's awsome learned alot now i want the thinktool pros because i know from your honest review it will be good really good

[@wyattoneable]

Thanks for the information Ivan.

[@jamesmichael8549]

TopDon 600 S i believe is the best .because it scan cars from 1996 going to up plus free life time update for the newest latest device .plus its free .

[@tomtke7351]

As an amateur who's RANK at best I can't afford $300 yearly software upgrade. So, for instance, if I have a 2018 Toyota Sequoia that I want to maintain can I buy a scanner and use it UN-UPGRADED for the life of the car? That for personal use is it appropriate to ONLY UPGRADE when I get a newer car or when I help a friend who has newer car??

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

No need to upgrade anything ever if you don't keep buying brand-new cars every year :)

[@tomtke7351]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics thx

[@Quickwrench75]

I have been a tech for 26 years. I have used a Launch Torque .. Currently use a auto 908 How does the Thinkpad ProS compared to a launch torque. Is there ny real differences between them? I have hard time finding full specs for both units. Seems to be so many variations of the launch torque.

[@patsuddarth1093]

Hello, does the Diagun V, really program new ECU's? Does it really do crankshaft & camshaft relearns? Also, could you program a new BCM: body control module, with it?

[@bltoth1955]

Hey Ivan, any thoughts on Thinkcar PAD10 vs PROS? I’m going to buy one of them. Thx

[@eldoradony]

How do the present day Snap On offerings compare to the newcomers? What is the cost of updates compared to Snap On? I have been a Snap On user for about 30 years. I currently have the Triton D8 and find it to be fast except with Nissan. I don't get scanners to try out and showcase on KZbin so I am always looking for an honest evaluation. Snap On is no bargain but it works.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

You can buy these scanners for less than the cost of one Snap On update 😅 my old Verus is priceless on older cars pre 2005, but for modern cars, I think SnapOn is not a good value 👍

[@justaregularguy3827]

I feel the. Diagun is great for starter technician or for someone at a dealer that works on one brand would you agreeb

[@gillgetter3004]

Happy thanksgiving all!!!!!

[@conrailfan6277]

I want one for home use on my vehicles Ivan, I have a 2017 Chevy Colorado V6 and a pristine 2006 Dodge Charger R/T Daytona, what would you recommend for home use??

[@toddautoandkids5037]

Nice video but what scanner out of all do u think does a better job right now I have the snapon modis 2 channel but was looking into adding another scanner what would u recommend

[@ghost37666]

Take a look at Autel MS909 and MS919

[@gflores7018]

Thank you for the info, good to know

[@zx8401ztv]

The choice depends on what you are likely to need most of the time and how deep does the person need to go. The think tool is pretty lol :-D

[@RobertJohnson-kv6dr]

I noticed you had either the D7 or D8 for xTool I recently just bought the D8 wondered if you'd be using it at anytime for diagnostic issues as not much on the net in real time using this diagnostic tool. Thanks

[@airdrones4u494]

Hi Ivan, Are you able to do a comparison between the Think Tool Pros and Bosch ADS625?

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Bosch is an expensive brick lol

[@IsshmanGarcia]

@Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics with the software on Diagun V, when your 2 years free updates runs out does your scanner still work up to the point of last updates or does scanner become a brick- forcing you to buy updates every year?

[@quinnhall24]

Ivan , have you used the Triton D10 ? It’s stupid fast

[@kenken-sr2vq]

Any video reviews on the Topdon Plus vs Lauch X431 Pro vs Autel MK906 within the $1,200 range cant find any comparing to find the best bang for the buck to work best on GM and Chevrolet, Ford Etc..?

[@donalddavis581]

You might want to check out the Xtool D8 A fraction of the cost....

[@steveboone5450]

Yup. XTOOL has some good options for DIY budget. Full bi-directional control and all manufacturer data PIDs. They even have BT options that use your phone or tablet for user interface -- these can save a ton of $$ for DIYer without giving up functionality.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

hmm never used one. Will have to do more research...

[@scottredilla937]

Hmm. I see 20% off the Diagun with the link but the Pros looks like regular price?

[@cutabove9046]

I find it interesting that the Thinktool pros scanner isn't even listed as a product on the official Thinkcar website. Nor is it listed for support on that website. However, just about every other thinkcar product is listed including the cheap Thinkdiag scanner. In fact the dongle for the Thinkdiag is identical to the Thinktool pros scanner dongle. Makes you wonder how well this tool will be supported.

[@jduda1127]

I think the think tool pros is actually for another county and read somewhere the US version is the think tool pad10

[@Mr2004MCSS]

@@jduda1127 The Thinktool Pros US equivalent is the Thinkcar Platinum S10 which is more expensive than the Pros. The Pros is discontinued and a global machine and is why you don't see it on their website.

[@thinkcartool3825]

@@Mr2004MCSS Because thinkcar have many dealers in the world but Thinkcar also do retail business. So Thinkcar dealers and thinkcar official sell different model on theirself website. Hope it helpful for you.

[@michaelweeks6022]

Thanks for the video and what you do. I'm an old wrench and this new stuff in really interesting to me and you do a great job at explaining how the systems work! PS. Have a Great T-Bird Day!!

[@m2autoworks]

So much nicer than my Snapon solus pro.

[@keithanderson7007]

Hey Ivan I noticed in your older videos that the screen capture function was not available in the ThinkTool Pros at first. Did a software update bring it to you later or was there a setting that you used to get it to appear? Thanks!

[@keithanderson7007]

Replying to myself and the rest of you. If you don't know, because the directions included with the Thinktool are just Chinesium comprehensive. In order to get the screenshot button to show you have to enable that feature in the scanner by running your finger from the top of the screen down to the middle and out of nowhere will appear a menu that allows you to select brightness and change some other settings. Selecting the enable screenshot icon will place the screenshot icon on the screen. This of course is not anywhere in the instruction booklet. Furthermore you can move the little icon anywhere you want on the screen once it is enabled.

[@everhernandez8658]

The thinktool pros Where you bought it

[@ecstuiver]

Ivan, could you do a video on the price of the updates after 2 years for the thinktool pros and does it give the info of the dpf and can you force a clean.

[@steveboone5450]

Noticed you focused on speed (boot, diag) and data pid reading/graphing. Are these 2 equivalent in terms of bi-directional control and special functions? Did you not cover those areas because you don't use them as much or just because they are essentially equivalent between these 2 options? My other question is whether there is any difference between these 2 in terms of add-on fees/subscriptions required per manufacturer or vehicle (or do you get full manufacturer/vehicle coverage forever for the original purchase price)? Thanks for the info.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Hi Steve! Coverage and bidirectional controls are the same for both tools. No separate subscription fees, and 2 years of free updates!

[@johnmilner6484]

What scan tool would you recommend for usr on a 97 dodge caravan? It's

[@mobilecommunicationsnetwor5268]

Possible option to buy Thinkcar DIAG and use with a tablet.

[@ToddtheLoneDroner]

I bought this with the hopes of lowering my suspension on a 2005 Mercedes what ABC suspension hopefully it will work.. Any suggestions would be appreciated

[@Michael-uo4jj]

i bought a think tool pros i really like it snappy unlike launch for whatever reason seems to be same software but launch is just slow as hell thanks for the video sucks i can only buy this tool from across the border they don't seem to distribute in Canada

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Fastest scanner I have ever used! 💪

[@biglevstergarage]

Happy Thanksgiving to you, your family and friends #PineHollowAutoDiagnostics