OH NO... Parts Cannon ESCALADE is BACK!! (Part 2)

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Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics

Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics

Жыл бұрын

After some weird data in Part 1, let's try a different approach and see if we can exorcise this stubborn CAN GHOST from the possessed 2007 Cadillac Escalade EXT...
Can we get the truck back on the road so the owner can make the 5-hour journey back home TONIGHT? Pressure is ON!!
IVAN'S PICOSCOPE WAVEFORMS:
drive.google.com/drive/folder...
ASTRO DVOM:
www.amazon.com/dp/B07FDBW1PT?...
ASTRO DC AMP CLAMP:
www.amazon.com/dp/B08MTCMWLB?...
THINKTOOL PROS:
www.amazon.com/dp/B08XXWHQVJ?...
Enjoy!
Ivan

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@dudleydeplorable5307
@dudleydeplorable5307 Жыл бұрын
Your notebooks remind me of the early days of my engineering career. We didn't have PC's or laptops, we had engineering notebooks. We recorded everything in our notebooks. Was assigned to resolve a safety mitigating issue. Took 2 to 3 months of analysis and experiments to reveal root cause, to cause the failure at will. Back in the day, software was written in assembly. Was fluent in hex, octal, scope, and test light. After much work, I was blessed with the eureka moment. Typed my report on an IBM Selectric typewriter. Was called into a meeting within 15 minutes of submitting the report. My engineering notebook was confiscated, all copies of my report were confiscated. I was terminated. Solved the mystery, major kick to my lower parts. Two days later was working in the research branch with a very significant salary increase.
@dudleydeplorable5307
@dudleydeplorable5307 Жыл бұрын
I couldn't give up on solving the issue. When triggered, the vehicle would go to WOT. The only reliable way to terminate the event was to key-off. Engineers were trained, consumers were not. The issue was resolved just prior to production. My specialty was resolving issues. Mentored fresh lead engineers to success many times. I was a ghost, some loved me, many hated me.
@weavweaver569
@weavweaver569 6 ай бұрын
I spent 40 years working on General Motors vehicles, and a dealership setting. The diagnosis process included, verifying the problem exist one of the first steps after that was a good thorough visual inspection. Just went around, putting your eyeballs on the harnesses and verifying there was no damaged areas . That was so obvious you may have found that on that visual inspection.. but great work
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 6 ай бұрын
Maybe, but don't TOUCH anything before you hook up your testing equipment and collect live data ;)
@keltecshooter
@keltecshooter Жыл бұрын
Many moons ago a wise old master mechanic taught me 99% of intermittent faults are caused by either heat or vibration . Feels awesome to find the answer. Nice job Ivan!
@TheFrenchPug
@TheFrenchPug Жыл бұрын
Makes sense. Heat kills electronics and vibration loosens and causes tight wiring to break. Corrosion might be another cause too but harder to narrow down.
@Airman..
@Airman.. Жыл бұрын
In this case someone failed to route the loom properly so add to his words, a careless mechanic
@cheapers1952
@cheapers1952 Жыл бұрын
You're absolutely correct but of course there's one new variable and it is in the world of electronics and other people touching it that don't know what they're doing causing new problems
@keltecshooter
@keltecshooter Жыл бұрын
@@cheapers1952 like what? Leaving something exposed to heat and/or vibration? We have had carless mechanics for ever and its not going away soon
@ccmoos
@ccmoos Жыл бұрын
The reason for the CAN bus to show so much activity when broken is the way CAN bus works. All attached units must acknowledge all frames that exist on the network. If one or more units does not read a frame, the sending unit will immediately start to retransmit. And even worse, the unit that transmits monitors the network while transmitting, so if the transmitter can not read its own data from the network a retransmit it also attempted. On a defect network it will appear as at lot going on, and no one can understand the data.
@scientist100
@scientist100 Жыл бұрын
You're right. They ping to each other a bunch of hellos and the other module responds and such.
@TheOnespeedbiker
@TheOnespeedbiker Жыл бұрын
Or to put it more simply, the problem with a broken network is by definition every part of the network is interconnected; so one small intermittent short to ground can bring the entire CAN down. Ivan asked if there was any way to shorten the process and I think it would be possible, on a case by case basis. First of all Ivan is what I call scary smart; when he runs across data he doesn't understand, rather than being frustrated, he thinks it's "really cool" and it's likely there may only be 1000 or so individuals in the country with a similar knowledge and skill set. In this case, I might have first checked the undercarriage for more chaffed wires. But that is only because of all the work he did the first time. IOW he was facing the exact same problem with the same symptoms and same olm overage and knowing the cause was a chaffed wire on the undercarriage I would have checked the undercarriage for a similar issue. But then again Ivan is light years ahead of my understanding of vehicle electronics and networks and the only reason I would be looking for another chaffed wire is because a chaffed wire is something I can understand.
@bluebirdpod
@bluebirdpod Жыл бұрын
the communication bus is probably simular to RS-485 where it has packets with addresses and such. and simple twisted pair wiring. Most commercial fire alarm systems have all the smokes and devices connected on the same set of transmit and receive pairs. and can run longer distances with out much interference on the network.
@ccmoos
@ccmoos Жыл бұрын
@@bluebirdpod can bus is way more advanced than RS485 based network. On RS485 you need a dedicated master and one or more slaves. On can bus all units can transmit at the same time...the "identifier" bits are the first to be transmitted, and they determine the priority of a message. The bus is effectively wire or'ed so the unit with the lowest identifier is in front of the queue. I have teached this at the local university, so bear with me for sounding like a wise ass
@peterlworth
@peterlworth Жыл бұрын
@@ccmoos I have said it before but Ivan would be a great teacher, if his videos don't end up in some schools sometimes I would be surprised
@davidmcclain5180
@davidmcclain5180 Жыл бұрын
Awesome diagnosis. Terrific job Ivan shooting the video so that we all could see what was going on. This has to take a lot of your time but we appreciate it very much.
@Hey_Its_That_Guy
@Hey_Its_That_Guy Жыл бұрын
Simply incredible, Ivan. How many vehicles, like this one, wind up on the auction block because of a no parts required repair?
@higherregion
@higherregion Жыл бұрын
Prices are auction and so high recently even on the non runners. However, I do remember a a few years back I purchases a 2012 camry with 60k miles where someone changed a fuse block and forgot to tighten the bolt down. I bought it for $4000 non running and sold it for $12000. I made good money on that car.
@scientist100
@scientist100 Жыл бұрын
@@higherregion my entire savings for 2 years. I make around 42k a year before taxes so after spending and taxes maybe I save 5k that I would have on hand. Side gigs is what I plan on doing now because a routine job never changes your chance to get more.
@russellhltn1396
@russellhltn1396 Жыл бұрын
@@scientist100 An old saying (that I haven't heard in a long time) "You'll never get rich working for someone else."
@scientist100
@scientist100 Жыл бұрын
@@russellhltn1396 though, some people make less and have nice cars and take more vacations. What is it that am I doing wrong? I ask myself.
@russellhltn1396
@russellhltn1396 Жыл бұрын
@@scientist100 Most likely, you're not maxing out your credit cards. You only see their spending - you're not seeing their bank balance.
@Charlie1012000
@Charlie1012000 Жыл бұрын
I would absolutly leave a troublesome car in your hands Ivan and pay whatever you requested! This is the way I want a diagnose to be done. No second hand guesses and parts cannon. I wish I could find another Ivan in my county..
@htownblue11
@htownblue11 Жыл бұрын
Holy smokes Ivan. That was an intense hunt for what ended up being a rubbed through wire. You methodically went through each connection on the network and tested each until you found the section that was pulling down network can. Then went for visual inspection for the win. NPR King. Long love King Ivan.
@ShaneG199
@ShaneG199 Жыл бұрын
Make sure to put a spoiler to the video in the top comment! Lol
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Жыл бұрын
@@ShaneG199 Hah don't read the comments before watching the video! ;)
@robbflynn4325
@robbflynn4325 Жыл бұрын
It's a comfort to me living in the next county to Ivan, lol. The mom and pop shops around here are good for basic stuff but then again so am I. Speaks volumes this guy brought his vehicle all the way from NYC for Ivan to fix.
@SuperM1687
@SuperM1687 Жыл бұрын
Totally jealous! I have a ton of work for Ivan but I'm 6 hours away! The "other" guy in New York doesn't do KZbin vehicles. lol
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Жыл бұрын
@@SuperM1687 How's the old Genie running Jason? Test light throttle still working? ;)
@SuperM1687
@SuperM1687 Жыл бұрын
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Still fighting the fuel issue you had when you were here. Time to clean out the fuel cell and rebuild the carburetor again.
@lstruggy
@lstruggy 6 ай бұрын
That is one shiny and clean alternator ⚡️
@DonDegidio
@DonDegidio Жыл бұрын
Hi Ivan, That one sure took the prize as the most difficult to locate wiring problem, but nothing can hide from you. 🙂 Glad it has been driving now with no problems. You and your family stay safe.
@cheapers1952
@cheapers1952 Жыл бұрын
Yes today's technicians need to have a lot of devotion and perseverance I see way too many throwing in the towel throwing parts throwing in the towel and a lot of those don't have the equipment nor the knowledge therefore they should not even be working on the automobiles I still deal with electronics myself I have 51 years under the belt my physical attributes are worn out
@colinellicott9737
@colinellicott9737 Жыл бұрын
Amazing how such a complex problem and analysis ends in such a simple fix to a simple issue.
@billziegmond4943
@billziegmond4943 Жыл бұрын
WOW! Diagnostic again my friend. BTW the Saturn from Hell is back. P0420. Found the flex joint between the cat and the rear O2 sensor had a slight crack.(Not enough to make it sound load.) It was drawing in outside air. Causing a lean code and the P0420 code. Only problem getting that inside pice of pipe out of the muffler. What a PAIN IN A** that was.
@adamdavies163
@adamdavies163 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps the first step, should always be a quick visual inspection of all accessible associated wiring and connectors underneath the vehicle and under the bonnet / hood. But brilliant diagnosis and perfect result.
@calholli
@calholli Жыл бұрын
I agree. Always start with a thorough visual inspection.
@JB-mn2gu
@JB-mn2gu Жыл бұрын
Because of the mileage and year I was thinking an Eric O wire shaky shaky would have been where to start. I think Ivan relies to much on the electronic toys and forgets the first should be visual inspection.
@jankcitycustoms
@jankcitycustoms Жыл бұрын
honestly I only do visual inspection after some tests get me close. especially on old stuff, a lot of really damaged looking connectors and components look bad but work totally fine.
@jtmack77
@jtmack77 Жыл бұрын
Think I would have done jumpers to find a good signal then should be easier to track down the offending section that is causing the failure.
@calholli
@calholli Жыл бұрын
@@jankcitycustoms I agree that there's a balance. We can't have tunnel vision in either direction. But just a quick look at everything involved, just to touch base and know that there's not a giant tree branch shoved in your wires or something random; it's just worth looking at everything at least once.
@craiggoodwin9704
@craiggoodwin9704 Жыл бұрын
ivan, it felt like this one took you to the limit. It certainly did me and I think it will be worth a second look plus a review of the PICO waveforms as there is plenty to learn. The look on your customers face and yours is priceless. I can tell you there was a smile and grin on this side of the camera as well. Thanks for Sharing!
@helmutkrahn9337
@helmutkrahn9337 Жыл бұрын
Whew! I can follow your reasoning, gratefully so, but it makes me so aware that "of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most"! Throughout both these videos, always at the back of my mind was the initial obsevation that the readings at several points seemed to be affected by car-body movement...
@cwilsonpa
@cwilsonpa Жыл бұрын
Fantastic methodical troubleshooting/diagnostic skills on display here.
@mikechiodetti4482
@mikechiodetti4482 Жыл бұрын
In training several years ago we were taught to check the signal and resistance at pins 6 &14 at the DLC , check for codes, do a visual, then disconnect one module at a time to see if the CAN came back. I do like the separation or dividing of the system that Ivan performs. I see Eric O at SMA does this.
@SocketSilver
@SocketSilver Жыл бұрын
Jason has a great smile! Awesome job Ivan!
@dennisharvey4499
@dennisharvey4499 Жыл бұрын
Once you had found a corrupted CAN signal I would have disconnected the battery and used the schematic to start at one 120R and check isolation from each side to chassis with a resistance meter to be >1kR. If that passes, test the continuity of each wire, one segment at a time using the schematic, until you get to the other 120R. In this case you would have found CAN low to have low isolation. I would then start at one 120R and disconnect each segment from the far end of the CAN until the isolation is good: the fault is then in the last segment you disconnected.
@Kizmox
@Kizmox Жыл бұрын
In cases like this I prefer to unplug everything from can and measure resistance to ground, should be in megaohm range if the wiring is truly insulated from other stuff. After that you can start plugging stuff back in and finding those terminating resistances.
@Sandmansa
@Sandmansa Жыл бұрын
I had no doubt that it was a wiring issue because the problem was intermittent. I suspected wires had to be either rotted and broken or rubbed through and touching. It was just a matter of where it was. Another "no parts required" repair. Awesome job Ivan! And your right about the TPMS. It's not a big deal to reset that system. That only takes a couple of minutes to do. Although, my OCD is killing me on that not so good splice on the EBCM connector. I can't call that truck "reliable" until its fixed properly.
@NICKLEBACKish
@NICKLEBACKish Жыл бұрын
As usual my man you have fixed the vehicle. You are definitely one of the members of the elite in the automotive profession.
@fluffyblue4006
@fluffyblue4006 Жыл бұрын
Yes, you could have diagnosed this problem more effectively. But you know what they say about hindsight, so it's okay. But when you see the collapsed negative can-line trace on the scope, the next step should be to connect a small test light from battery positive to that negative can-line. It will light up in case of a short to ground. And then you can home in on the short, by disconnecting modules and follow the short with the test light. In my comment to part 1, I stated that a 60 Ohm resistor is needed. That is not correct. Should be 120 Ohm. I'll go there and correct my mistake.
@robertfrancisco1193
@robertfrancisco1193 Жыл бұрын
that's were years of experience comes in to play. most new techs would have been sweating bullets! electrical techs are worth every $$$ they make. crazy stuff can happen when vehicles have all this new age technology. with all you know you still find out what you dont know if you know what i mean. keep up the good work!
@richardcranium5839
@richardcranium5839 Жыл бұрын
this is one of the few cases where a led test light might be useful due to the voltage and current being soooo low. been burnt by ohmmeters so many times i dont like using them anymore for anything but continuity. scope is great " do the wiggle watch for squiggle". breaking it down into bite size chunks is definitely a good way to funnel it.
@kenfromsilverdale5675
@kenfromsilverdale5675 Жыл бұрын
Ivan, YOU NEED A HOIST!!! Great video, way to be persistent and find the root cause of the CAN Failure!
@MrCliverlong
@MrCliverlong 6 ай бұрын
Amazing work, Ivan. Knowledge, a systematic approach and persistence.
@thejoneseys
@thejoneseys Жыл бұрын
That was a tough one but Ivan's laser guided process nailed it 💪🏻 Not sure how much actual time lapsed but I'd charge an hourly rate but capped at a reasonable level as it's a learning exercise after a certain amount. Nice work 👍🏻
@DrHarryT
@DrHarryT Жыл бұрын
Therein lays the crux of the problem. You end up not being able to charge the customer for all the "actual" time involved. Therefore the technician who is on flag [and they usually are] looses their ass on the job. Then there really isn't a "learning exercise" involved unless it's a common problem with the specific model. Most problems are random failures, and you just have to dig in and find the problem wherever it may be.
@themaverickmechanic7240
@themaverickmechanic7240 Жыл бұрын
If a customer thinks that my charges are expensive I have an arsenal of stories about dealers throwing the parts cannon at a car and still not fixing it. It really does get annoying when people come out with the “you only fixed a wire” complaint. No, I used thousands of dollars worth of equipment, thousands of hours worth of experience and found what is causing a malfunction to repair.
@hpelisr
@hpelisr Жыл бұрын
Amazing fix Ivan, what a problem. These shorts can be the worst, so small but yet a big deal, can't see them until you find, great detective work.
@senanfoutchedjev2401
@senanfoutchedjev2401 Жыл бұрын
Just no comment. Great stuff Ivan. That is how a professional diag a problem. No crap. Thanks.
@GarryFishermusic
@GarryFishermusic Жыл бұрын
I’ve never witnessed a miracle happen in front of my eyes but it was enjoyable watching a miracle being performed with Holy water being sprinkled on that seat in Truck lol 😂
@ronaldderooij1774
@ronaldderooij1774 Жыл бұрын
As I said before, if it took you an hour, charge the customer an hour. If it took you four hours, charge four hours. That's how it works in Europe.
@daytonpyro
@daytonpyro Жыл бұрын
what if you work 4 hours but cant find the problem? is it still 4 hours to be paid? or what if the tech was new and it took him 4 hours, but other, more experienced tech might take them an hour. do you still charge 4 hours? i think all cases are different.
@Knockturnall1
@Knockturnall1 Жыл бұрын
My good sir. I don't think they are in Europe. This could easily be anywhere from $500 to $800
@frnkjones40
@frnkjones40 Жыл бұрын
This vehicle had me stressed out. Ivan, you are the MAN! It's a shame that there isn't an Ivan in every shop.
@pingpong9656
@pingpong9656 Жыл бұрын
That was a tough cookie - well done...
@noelelnolo9642
@noelelnolo9642 Жыл бұрын
This is a great video BUT I’m kind on on the fence on the repair. Those cables were exposed to the weather and the heat from the transmission casing. This is going to be a recurring problem. But then again, you solved it with the least amount of expenditures and the owner is happy. No idea why he didn’t fix the other 2 issues and depart with a zero red codes vehicle. Nothing beats a vehicle w/no codes!! I’m hooked!!!😂
@paulpaquette1961
@paulpaquette1961 Жыл бұрын
You found the scene of the crime (again lol!!!). Excellent logic and technique. Dynamite!
@davidyates748
@davidyates748 Жыл бұрын
CAN bus reminds me of the early days of Ethernet with the 10 base-2 standard, which used the same principle of a multi device bus with terminating resistors and was also a nightmare to diagnose. I wonder why vehicle manufacturers haven't adopted a similar scheme to the rest of the IT industry by moving to a switched or at least hub-based network with dedicated communication lines per device.
@2nickles647
@2nickles647 Жыл бұрын
Since I don't do jobs like Master Ivan does. Yet I do repairs. I quote by the hour per the book. I'm a DYI mechanic and mostly tackle some jobs. My brother in law was having issues with his fuel pump shutting off. Then would come back on. I told him. I think we have either a short from the pump to the wiring harness. If admit I did fire the parts cannon. But we kept the original parts. Installed 2 new parts. I did buy one part for him. Problem remained. He took the truck to Ford. They ran a jumper wire to buy pass the pump. They also pulled the bed and cab. They told him the entire harness needs replaced without pin pointing the actual problem. They broke the harness to the pickup bed. They just used butt connectors and called it good and didn't tell him until I found it. He was on a trip up North. Truck stalled on the freeway. The jumper wire. All they did was push a bare wire into the harness and it had fallen out. Every 50 or so miles he had to stop and push it back in. He was so infuriated with the whole screw up. He traded it in. Got a 2020 Chevy and now it's his daily driver.
@crisprtalk6963
@crisprtalk6963 Жыл бұрын
Tenacity! Well done.
@rider9195
@rider9195 Жыл бұрын
Very good diag! I have a process for the GM high speed CAN, start off with basic resistance across 6&14 at DLC with vehicle powered down. I will try and split the system if it does not show 60 ohms. I was always taught to "remove" the terminating resistors from the CAN circuits which will leave each CAN high and low isolated. Then will check from each CAN high/low circuit for resistance to ground, short to voltage, and then check resistance between the high and low CAN circuit to make sure they are not shorted to each other. If all that checks out, I can assume that the CAN wiring is likely OK. But that only assumes that the fault is current and not intermittent. From there you can assume a module is pulling the network down and split the system from there. Sometimes it can be straight forward and others can be a pain!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Жыл бұрын
Great tips Ryan! Do you use the scope to look at the signals on pins 6 and 14? I always save my waveforms and then compare them to see what each type of failure had on the signals. In this case the CAN - looked like it was pulled down to ground, which is exactly what the issue was!!
@jamespearce7954
@jamespearce7954 Жыл бұрын
Good hunting. Perseverance wins out Ivan.
@tomtke7351
@tomtke7351 Жыл бұрын
heads up!! Pushing pins into sockets can oversize the sockets IF THE TEST PINS ARE TOO LARGE! That's a headache you don't want.
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT Жыл бұрын
Excellent Ivan! That was a nasty problem to track, and you kept your judgement and procedures spot on. Despite the headache these faults are, they are fascinating to follow on screen :-)
@Usmanthemecano
@Usmanthemecano Жыл бұрын
I dream of one day perhaps understanding how these things work... seems so complex for 99% of shops... The system is failing us for sure. Free training or at least very accessible training should be normalized... it seems like every time I watch a training seminar it's about a couple dozen techs, usually with 20+ years of experience and usually the same guys... that's a problem
@rickw.9298
@rickw.9298 Жыл бұрын
👍 Adapt, improvise & succeed. Great work Ivan! In the old days, without all the fancy electronics, a visual inspection was a key diagnostic tool. That’s something that hasn’t changed one bit.
@CXensation
@CXensation Жыл бұрын
A typical high class expert Ivan repair 👍👍 Well done !
@ricfair9919
@ricfair9919 Жыл бұрын
WOW Ivan! GREAT job finding this fault. Excellent diagnosis and methodical way to track this CAN fault down. Nice teaching job.
@inothome
@inothome Жыл бұрын
Love how some of the toughest problems are from simple, basic causes. Great fix!
@TheGEORGECHAULUKA
@TheGEORGECHAULUKA Жыл бұрын
That was a tough one, good shot I salute you Ivan!
@prshardy
@prshardy Жыл бұрын
Wow you are a genius, I'm always learning from you GM videos. Appreciate you teaching us techs.
@bernardaflores1720
@bernardaflores1720 Жыл бұрын
This problem and its trouble shooting is way above my head. I am going to sip the video like a good glass of wine to better understand everything that you did. The solution was so simple and elegant!
@memphisautodiagnostics4136
@memphisautodiagnostics4136 Жыл бұрын
I don't think you could've done it better or faster you followed the evidence, network are always hard because each wire has signal plugged or unplugged unlike power and ground , great job Ivan
@RideCamVids
@RideCamVids Жыл бұрын
Ivan that's one heck of a detective job going through it from the other side of the wall. Next time you will definitely look at all the wiring and connectors first to confirm good routing and no green crusties I'm sure. I had bought a vintage motorcycle that had a intermittent problem whereby it would just die randomly or loose a cylinder periodically. On a tour one summer it blew up the rectifier leaving me with a stranded bike until I could get it fixed. It was then that I was more than determined to find this stupid electrical problem once and for all. When I was removing the harness to check it, there is an area behind the electrical panel you can not get to to see the wires located there until its removed. that's when the issue was found. The ignition circuit wires and charging circuit wires had been moved by someone in the past and not routed properly. In time they had rubbed through on the part they were touching and so randomly shorting the points wires to ground on the metal fender. The same was happening on the wires for the rectifier circuit. I ended up rebuilding the complete harness and making some improvements to the various circuits and wire gauge sizes while I was at it.
@davidsartin5708
@davidsartin5708 27 күн бұрын
That is exactly the problem I found with my 2008 Silverado 4x4 Duramax. That bracket rubbed on the wiring harness and parodic short showing a bad TCM. Loss of communication. Thank you for directing me under the truck. Now ABS and brake lights are on. ??? plus, modules that I had unplugged and reconnected are not recognized and do not work. (4x4 dial/switch no longer lights).
@cardiaglexia995
@cardiaglexia995 Жыл бұрын
Du hast den mann glücklich gemacht!!!👍👍👍
@kevinmills5293
@kevinmills5293 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to know Ivan’s take on diagnosing EV’s in the future. Does he think it will be even more difficult or perhaps there will be better built in diagnostics that will aid fault finding.
@rkan2
@rkan2 Жыл бұрын
It will be muc more straightforward and less parts to diagnose in the drivetrain anyway. However especially new parts will be much more expensive. (Doesn't mean overall ovnership will be more expensive - Tesla don't require maintenance to mantain warranty)
@calholli
@calholli Жыл бұрын
It's super simple compared to all the complexity of an ICE. Just think of how easy it is to test and replace alternators and starters. EV's are not much different; except for the batteries and battery management, ect.. Otherwise the troubleshooting should be much more straight forward.
@billmonroe8826
@billmonroe8826 Жыл бұрын
Ivan did a video on an EV. Watch it and you decide. God help us all if people think EV's are the answer to anything!
@rkan2
@rkan2 Жыл бұрын
@@billmonroe8826 Which video was it?
@kevinmills5293
@kevinmills5293 Жыл бұрын
@@billmonroe8826 I’ve not seen that video. Can you post a link?
@chiluco2000
@chiluco2000 Жыл бұрын
I think is not a problem of efficiency (like to save time) but more on being persistent, sticking to the plan and a ton of patience. Then maybe you can charge the customer for a block of 2-3 hours or 4-5 hours, etc. As we saw, during the worst moments you moved assertively to the next plan and sticked with it to the end, wrote your results and moved to the next hypothesis... and so on until you declared victory.
@Thermool
@Thermool Жыл бұрын
Yep, that was tough. I’ve seen those Tesla like aftermarket units for awhile and I thought maybe something necessary like a button for traction control wouldn’t be liked by the GM system in the new package. Gosh a simple rub on a wire by the transmission causes this. Now just an all electric vehicle and a mess those would be when something goes a foul. But you got the knowledge and experience Ivan; you got this !
@georgesierra9038
@georgesierra9038 Жыл бұрын
Great job!!!!
@jackiemay9471
@jackiemay9471 Жыл бұрын
good catch had to be wiring you said yesterday it happens when the car was bouncing around probably worse when warm as the insulation relaxed keep up the good work and thank you for the videos, Ivan
@artmont9043
@artmont9043 Жыл бұрын
I WAS LEANING MORE TO THE AFTER MARKET RADIO (TESLA SCREEN) FOR THE CULPRIT. THEN I REMEMBERED HE SAID AFTER A BUMP SO THAT THROUGH ME OFF. GREAAAAT DIAG FOR SURE.
@somerandomguy3868
@somerandomguy3868 Жыл бұрын
Remarkably clean engine bay
@emii4233
@emii4233 Жыл бұрын
I love the way Ivan traces the path breaking thing in half then half again until the problem is solved never disappointed in his content.
@vincentcharles4002
@vincentcharles4002 2 ай бұрын
Witch you need a lift. Like the wizard always preforms a visual inspection of the under side. He would of spotted that in 2 min. Thanks for all your videos Ivan you still a great tech.
@thomasdemarco617
@thomasdemarco617 Жыл бұрын
great logic problem solving a visual inspection is always to look at the worst environment location nice work
@Graham_Wideman
@Graham_Wideman Жыл бұрын
Hey Ivan -- if you haven't done so, I would highly recommend this exercise: Grab two or three multimeters and some resistors or a decade box. Use one multimeter set to ohms to measure an example resistance (say 120 ohms to pick a random number :-) Then use the other meter or meters to measure the voltage or current that the first meter applies to make the ohm measurement. Repeat for some other resistor values. As a teaser, do you predict that the first meter applies a voltage and measures the resulting current, or does it apply a current and measures the resulting voltage? Having a good intuition about the meter strategy greatly helps to understand what happens if you try to measure a resistance using two multimeters at once. Also how the resistance measurement is thrown off by some extraneous voltage or current in the circuit under test. (And as usual, well done on finding the short!)
@crashoverride328
@crashoverride328 Жыл бұрын
I would physically connect a 120 ohm resistor across the bus lines to confirm the bus can be terminated properly, then also check the EBCM pins for the presence of the factory termination, and check for shorts to ground / power internally in the EBCM.
@neilmurphy845
@neilmurphy845 Жыл бұрын
I learned how intermittent wiring problems can be very difficult to fix.
@user-lh5tq9ik4k
@user-lh5tq9ik4k 4 ай бұрын
In the area of NY I would check plugs and grounds and places were cable's go through holes and rub.
@BrandonCartwright04
@BrandonCartwright04 Жыл бұрын
Do you believe repairing the original connector wasnt the actual problem. That when replacing the connector, it moved that rub spot away from ground and fixed the network. Then, in time the harness became grounded again. I would bet that was the issue all along
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. Жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial on can problem diagnosis. Thanks Ivan!
@boilertech44
@boilertech44 Жыл бұрын
Great video Ivan, thanks for the tough diagnosis. Learn so much watching your videos!
@wino99999
@wino99999 Жыл бұрын
Charge what it cost in labour (spelt correctly!😉). It's cheaper than firing the parts canon that wouldn't fix the problem anyway. Much Cheaper than getting a Service centre to investigate. WAY MUCH Cheaper than having to scrap the car and buy a new one!!! People have to pay for your diligence, expertise and perseverance in ultimately getting to the bottom of the issues so that hopefully they don't reoccur! There's always the possibility that a quick inspection of the canbus first, might have spotted the problem earlier in this case, but you went through your normal diagnosis procedure in your normal order before ultimately hitting on the more simplistic observational fault found at the end. Anyone accusing you of upping the bill because you didn't spot the obvious earlier, forgets that your method is able to pinpoint issues that a physical examination would not necessarily be able to pinpoint or find. If in this case it wasn't an observable issue, then unplugging the transmission would not have removed the problem thus pointing to an unobservable issue in the cabling!
@roxanneabbott8424
@roxanneabbott8424 Жыл бұрын
I had a smile that wouldnt go away, great work Ivan, NPR!!!
@luisz5443
@luisz5443 Жыл бұрын
Wow Ivan you've really out done your diagnostic skills.. Bravo 👏. Most people would have given up, but not you. Thank you for sharing and giving inspiration. That anything can have a solution. 🙂👍 thank you
@dracula4733
@dracula4733 Жыл бұрын
U got me in suspense wit these part 1&2 LoL keep up the great videos ur the best wish u were closer to me I'll have u work on my truck anytime..
@davidhollfelder9940
@davidhollfelder9940 Жыл бұрын
What did I learn, again. Visual inspection, it got me too.
@jaypresley5392
@jaypresley5392 Жыл бұрын
Nice work. Thank you for sharing
@kyletuttle9064
@kyletuttle9064 Жыл бұрын
Great diag and repair Ivan.
@ernieb2982
@ernieb2982 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another well done diagnostic video.
@tonyp.autorepair994
@tonyp.autorepair994 Жыл бұрын
Waooo . Excelente my friend.. I like the job you do.
@larstell
@larstell Жыл бұрын
How many cars are scraped due to similar problem...
@davebeallis328
@davebeallis328 Жыл бұрын
Ivan great diag there is not many shops that would have put that much persistent into that problem trying to fix it they would give up or replace module's . That was a great call on the customer to bring it to you . Thanks again for the great videos and information
@Paramount531
@Paramount531 Жыл бұрын
While I can't claim to understand all of this, with each video I learn a little bit more so there's hope I will understand someday! I love your videos, Ivan!
@PaulysAuto
@PaulysAuto Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this series...you did a great job in explaining the process from start to finish! Thanks Ivan!
@turboponies
@turboponies Жыл бұрын
Mindblowing. Even after all this time - it still is. I blame GM.
@jo300hn
@jo300hn Жыл бұрын
Its easy to an expert after the battle is won or lost. We can all learn from this, I think doing a full resistive check of the CAN circuit with it completely unpowered and isolated would have saved some headache in tracing this simple but hard to find fault.
@2094lolo
@2094lolo 11 ай бұрын
I wish U was around The Louisville area!!! I have an 08 dropping down gears everytime I hit a Pothole, rail road tracks, and any rough roads...
@aranhaydar9195
@aranhaydar9195 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't have pinpointed the problem more efficiently , and i would've charged the customer by hours with a discount as he's traveled a long way to get to you + because the issues might be related in his mentality, keep up the great work ivan, and i personally appreciate your time and dedication to spread the knowledge that you struggle to gain for free :)
@jamesbruno5896
@jamesbruno5896 Жыл бұрын
Nice job Ivan! You're the man!
@Airman..
@Airman.. Жыл бұрын
You killed it bro Excellent understanding of the communication system
@bloneyo1
@bloneyo1 Жыл бұрын
Just started watching your videos, Great Work !! keep em coming :)
@LuisRamirez-wr4of
@LuisRamirez-wr4of Жыл бұрын
That was amazing, thanks for sharing, those delphi connectors hard to deal with
@dustcommander100
@dustcommander100 Жыл бұрын
Way to go!!!!! Great job!
@carmeloortiz5993
@carmeloortiz5993 Жыл бұрын
That is so awesome,,I've learned so much.
@huntnfishnuts5880
@huntnfishnuts5880 Жыл бұрын
The newer can networks can be tricky as some are more fault tolerant than the older single Line networks but with the breakout box it’s quick to test for a short to power or ground but even if you prove that as an issue you still have to locate the problem, splitting the network into separate branches is the best way to go, pulling fuses was smart instead of disconnecting modules, but having scan tools plugged into your dlc can act as another module on your can system for testing. Sometimes you get lucky and find the fault quickly other times you have to keep chipping away at it until you find it, great diag and a great fix.
@stephanecampeau9814
@stephanecampeau9814 Жыл бұрын
Hi Ivan, on can network you are going to see 60 ohms even if one of the wire is touching the ground or power. One of the test I usually do is test for 60 ohms an then see if I have continuity with ground. In that case the Can lo was near zero volt on the scope. If you suspected a module and it is in serries in the Can network, you can bypass it with jumpers. Sorry for my bad english!!!! Thanks for your excellente video!
@bustedknuckle3808
@bustedknuckle3808 Жыл бұрын
That was enjoyable. Way beyond my skill level Points, Condenser and a coil.. I'm your msn
@tube8533
@tube8533 4 ай бұрын
You did it again!
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