Responding to Transgenderism With Truth and Mercy w/ Jason Evert

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Chapters:
0:00 Intro/Seek
1:14 Kids want Chastity
2:56 Social media and Dating
4:25 Updating Chastity Talks
6:44 How Jason and Matt met
10:37 Jason's Different Approach
16:00 Jason on Writing the Book
20:18 Individualized Care
21:30 Gender stereotypes
26:37 What is a man? What is a woman?
28:08 LGBT Orgins
29:18 Magnus Hirschfeld
30:09 Harry Benjamin & Magnus Hirschfeld
30:33 Alfred Kinsey
31:15 John Money and the Reimer family
34:00 The origins of the word Gender
34:55 Dr. Money Pt. 2
37:08 The legacy of David Reimer
38:33 Evolution of Gender Theory
41:42 The counter movement
45:00 Keira Bell
46:05 Creating Lifelong Pateients
48:55 Empowering the De-transitioners
54:40 the Tavistok clinic
56:35 Prayer for LGBT People
58:21 Thoughts on Walsh
59:53 Church fighting secularism
01:01:00 Learning the language of gender theory
01:05:04 Distinctions between men and women
01:10:42 "What is Woman?"
01:18:04 Break
01:21:20 Give Away
01:22:42 Trans Books in Schools
01:26:12 Addressing Trans Dualism
01:28:12 Resources For responding to LGBT
01:31:10 Future translations to different languages
01:32:42 Modesty tips for men and women
01:38:57 Aiding Mental Disorders
01:43:04 Children of Same-Sex Couples
01:44:37 Dr. McHughes Social Contagion Theory
01:46:57 LGBT in the Workplace
01:51:48 Primal-Androgeny
01:54:17 Research Fatigue
01:55:07 Prevelance of middle aged MTF online?
01:57:07 Transgender Response to Jason's Talks
01:59:06 St. Mark Xi
02:03:27 Non-Religious Response to Gender Theory
02:07:27 What not to say to Trans People
02:09:49 James Martin
02:13:33 Gender Specific Ministries
02:14:48 How to help the parents
02:19:20 The Future of the Culture
02:22:50 Control issues in Life
02:26:37 Is technology a struggle for Jason?
02:28:07 Covenant Eyea
02:30:52 Concluding prayers

[@sabl6381]

I was born in '92 and a tomboy all throughout childhood. I flirted with the idea of "transitioning" in college, but fortunately had solid adults in my life who took a wait-and-see approach. Plus, this wasn't all the rage 10-12 years ago. Anyway, now I am married with a beautiful baby girl, and my heart aches when I think of all these troubled people going under the knife. They are someone's baby. God help us for what this culture is facilitating.

[@mariaabdellmelk14]

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[@Gericho49]

The whole LGBT ideology falls like a house of cards and fails on one simple contradiction: According to the homosexual branch of "pride", (the G, B and L) their whole lifestyle and identify are grounded in the firm belief "I was born/created that way" i.e. my BIOLOGY or genetic makeup. The 'T' and or "Q+" on the other hand, claim it's nothing to do with biology or physiology, but "how I feel today". Hmm! If u don't know what defines a woman or it's only about how one feels, why go under the knife to change ur physical attributes to something u can't even define? Could one be true or perhaps, both G's and T's merely have serious mental delusions? Where do trans Asians, aliens, amputees, athletes, anorexics and Adams fit into such malleable identities, aka mental aberrations? Should we celebrate with them too?

[@agnesvanmeter2570]

I was born in 1945 and was a tomboy - even playing football at age 8. IF someone had offered me a chance to "become a boy," i would have said YES, sign me up. Around age 9, a I noticed a boy "Johnny" in my class and fell in love. Did NOT want to be a boy anymore. Now, still, at age 77 i still notice attractive men! THANK GOD nobody even tried to change me when I was a child!! And I am a Grandma! Love it!

[@katieklein6848]

1q💕a

[@marvalice3455]

I was born at the same time, and got caught in the mental trap of transgenderism for almost 20 years. Thankfully, Christ dragged me out of it xD

[@pandapearl385]

My parents trafficked me to the members of their satanic cult. Talk about having gender confusion! I wanted to be a man because I thought men didn't get raped. Soon I realized that it didn't matter what gender you were, everyone got raped. I have never fit in with my ideal of womanhood, and have struggled with gender issues and low self esteem my whole life. This talk has given me so much peace and comfort. The Lord Jesus has used you to put my questions and anxieties to rest. Thank you for your kindness and compassion in the way that you talk about these overwhelming issues. You're right. We're all just looking for love.

[@tavopasquali]

I'm sending you a big fraternal hug

[@youtubecharlie1]

Praying for you 🙏🏼

[@Featherfinder]

Panda Pearl, I’m so sorry for your pain and I’m really glad you saw this video and that it helped! I’m praying for you, sweetheart. I believe you, and I’m praying for you. Stay close to Lord Jesus and He will heal you. 🙏♥😘

[@AG-kr1my]

Goodness. I'm so sorry for your pain. I'm sending you love and a prayer tonight friend ♥️

[@blancab.5085]

I’m so sorry that you went through this as a child, a parent would rather die before ever putting a child in harms way. I hope you removed them from your life and never let them meet your kids.😢

[@malenamariephillips6574]

I’ve been a detransitioner sense 2019. And this podcast was overwhelmingly healing for me to listen to! It’s true that the problems and the dysphoria are still there through transition and even detransition. I was born female. And now, I still deal with the permanent changes from taking testosterone. I deal with dysphoria from what I did to my body. I’m so thankful I didn’t go through with surgeries!! I grew up in a Christian household but yet still had so much trauma. Complex trauma and religious trauma. I wish that when I was dealing with gender confusion, that there had been more people in the church, or even just believers in general, that would have listened to me and loved me instead of telling me how wrong I was and that I was going to Hell- because all that did was make me turn away from God completly so I ran to acceptance from other people and other religions. I still wonder how I can love others in the LGBT community and show support, because I want them to see Jesus through my actions with them. Because I used to be them. And I still struggle with knowing I’m part of the LGBT community while at the same time knowing what’s quote on quote “right and wrong.” For me, my transitioning stemmed from trauma and abuse and having more masculine features naturally. However, when I started to come back to Jesus, I was still transgender. And Jesus told me, “go to church for me, no one else.” And I realized, “What if I just try to accept myself, my body, for who I am?” And that’s how my healing journey started. From there I have been able to get sober and stay sober from drugs and alcohol as well. (I have 15 months sober!!) And I’m currently processing trauma in therapy along with working through other mental health disorders I struggle with. I just pray that one day my story can help others and inspire others. And if anything, I pray that, the part of my story that deals with gender dysphoria, will at least help others really question if transitioning is what they want before they do irreversible changes to their body.

[@michellemeiers8309]

Bless your precious heart, beautiful child of God. I’ll pray for you sweetheart. I’m so sorry honey, you are loved, you are seen and God has never left your side this is a hard place to been we are all broken in this broken world but know you were loved before you were even born.❤🛐🛐🛐🛐

[@malenamariephillips6574]

@@michellemeiers8309 Amen! Thank you!!

[@jeanneelisabeth]

Thank you for sharing your story. It helped me to understand mysellf better.

[@carolynschuster291]

You are a hero to me. Wow! ❤❤❤

[@Totoro-in-the-TARDIS]

Your story is already inspiring! Keep fighting, you have never been alone, even in the dark. Solidarity in Christ 🕊️🔥🙏🏽

[@rosiegirl2485]

My Gosh, Jason rattles off his words..the science..acronyms..etc..with such ease. He has clearly done his homework and really knows his stuff! May God bless him and his ministry! ⚘️

[@gingerbaker757]

🕯 AMEN 🕯

[@chrisfinoc6236]

Jason I am a medical student and I would like to meet this anesthesiologist! We need more doctors willing to stand up for these patients against the madness of these "expert" organizations!

[@TheLookatGodPodcast]

Yes!!! What is going on, it’s sad that not too many medical professionals are not willing to step up. Praying for you in the medical field!

[@ph3137]

I am also a medical student and Idk about your school but my school pushes gender affirming care and pronouns as often as possible.

[@brown8837]

Also a medical student, my school also pushes pronouns, gender affirming care, and other harmful narratives. No talk of outcomes, long term effects, possibility of de-transitioning. No talk of alternatives.

[@Featherfinder]

@@brown8837 Definitely praying for all of you med students. Based on what I’ve heard I cannot imagine what it’s like for you all. Ikm incredibly glad you’re out there, though.

[@chrisfinoc6236]

It’s incredibly difficult b/c I can see in how professors curb their language “in a patient with female anatomy…” they don’t actually ascent to these ideas; well most don’t or at least are still able to acknowledge the anatomical and physiological realities. But they keep quiet and go along b/c this is impressed on us from the top down and to speak out against it can be career suicide. As students it’s easy to take a back seat and not get caught up in the debate, I’m afraid of what happens in clerkship and residency… But yes even my school makes a huge effort to push this as well.

[@mattolgamcsorley9307]

The role of autism in this can't be overstated. A 1981 study showed that 10-30% of autistic kids couldn't place themselves as male or female. People with autism frequently don't have a strong sense of self. They also feel disconnected from society and from themselves, making them easy targets for the ideology. The question of how do we deal with this runs up against the reality that it can be difficult as a neurotypical person to understand and be understood by someone with autism. It's a social communication disorder. The great pity is we will someday realize we've been sterilizing autistic young people. It's a scandal.

[@AeternusDiscipulus26]

Do you think they know they are sterilizing autistic individuals? Or are they doing it unknowingly for the sake of the ideology? That’s something I’ve thought about and it’s hard to say. If I had to guess, it’s the latter. But it could depend on the individual

[@sibergirl]

I have a young adult son, mid 20’s, who has had attempted grooming by other people his age to try to convince him he’s either trans or trans attracted. They absolutely target Autistic individuals to confuse them because they already feel confused by so much non verbal social interaction. My husband and I have fought tooth and nail through prayer for our son, constant communication with him, and making sure he meets us for Mass every week. He lives on his own, has a job, drives his car. Has friends. He’s on the mild end of the Spectrum, but even that mild autism (formerly known as Asperger’s Syndrome) is a sitting duck for trans activists. Satan knows just who to use to push on our weakest parts. I’m so angry at the things these people have attempted with my son, and with the Lord’s help and that of his Archangel Michael, they can’t have him!

[@mattolgamcsorley9307]

@Sibergirl as we saw in Nashville the other day, trans activists are ruthless predators. I wish I had learned that lesson sooner.

[@colleennoelle7782]

Yes I made the connection a long time ago that autistic people are being targeted but couldn’t find it being talked about anywhere. So glad it’s finally being discussed

[@mattolgamcsorley9307]

@@colleennoelle7782 data from GIDS in England showed about 35% of their caseload was autistic. Some estimates are higher than that.

[@josephmichaelperpinan481]

56:37 I do not struggle with gender dysphoria, but Jason's prayer really made me tear up. The amount of love he has for people who struggle with this is so evident. Thank you so much for the work that you do Jason and Matt . Listening to your podcasts (along with Christopher West) have helped me overcome my addiction to pornography! God bless the work that you do!

[@deb9806]

Compassion is needed. I wonder if the ones who are holier than thou had the same feelings, how would they feel when thought of as "the devil" or below human. Would Jesus tell them not to judge others so harshly? Should someone's words push the hand of someone in despair to commit suicide or try? Is that a sin? I think so.

[@rebekahbrown9306]

yes - such a beautiful prayer amen

[@marvalice3455]

@@deb9806 you don't need to wonder, it is. but I'm worried that your perspective might be a bit wanky. we need to show compassion to those who are being abused by evil, but also need to call out evil when we see it.

[@deb9806]

@@marvalice3455 If someone is born a certain way, I knew many, I wont call them evil. They can't help feeling that way and many have hurt themselves trying to deal with it. Names and yelling and acting like being near them is "evil" is not right. Some of my neighbors who are gay, some single, some have families, some couples, all put me to shame with volunteerism and they are very good people, religious, generous, good workers. An act they may or may not do in private doesn't make them the devil to me. I feel for them, I pray for them, but I wont demonize them. There is enough real evil killing people out there daily, enough anti semitism, enough racism, enough homophobia, enough abuse. The only thing we can say is be alone. That isn't going to make someone want to keep breathing. Some couples do live together chastely. Fr Grochel from EWTN fame, knew one who decided in their 40's or little older to come back to the church but they still were close, seperate bedrooms, but they needed each other. Hetro couples do that too for many reasons. We all need love, we need to love each other as Jesus said. I pray they find ways that are more pleasing to the church but again many aren't Catholic.

[@josephmichaelperpinan481]

@@deb9806 It is true that we need to act compassionately towards those who commit sins. This is especially true with how Jesus acted toward the woman who was caught in adultery. But after he showed her compassion, He told her to sin no more. Homosexual acts are inherently disordered. They are sins. We need to work both in compassion and in truth. What good is it for us to gain the world, if we lose soul? What good is it to use our freedom for our own sexual desires in this world, if we are not with Jesus in the next because of the sins we have committed due to misuse of that freedom. Indeed there are people who are not compassionate. They have a higher tendency to turn people away from Jesus, and they will be held accountable for their imprudence. But we will also be held accountable if we had the opportunity to lovingly correct our brothers and sisters but we did not take that opportunity. Love can also come in the form of loving correction. I am more concerned with ensuring that our sinning brother or sister will repent of his or her sin, so that we can all be together with Jesus when we pass from this life.

[@vinciblegaming6817]

This whole subject moves me in equal measure to righteous outrage and overwhelming grief. This hurts. The victims of this need an army of angels protecting them with swords turned on the monsters seeking to prey on their vulnerabilities, whatever those are. Hear, O Lord, our cry for these innocents.

[@mimi_j]

Especially around 42:40 maybe a few mins before my heart hurts 💔💔💔I was telling my spiritual advisor the other day how hard it is for me to pray for mercy. I pray for justice to be rained down 💔💔poor babies and those disgusting men😡😡

[@bobbettedavis9168]

+JMJ+ Amen 🙏🏼 ✝️🙏🏼

[@marvalice3455]

@@mimi_j there will be justice. we might not see it in our lives, but it is not our station to bring punishment.

[@elizabethstolten2732]

Thank you so much Jason for all you have done in this whole area, you are an amazing resource and we have been so grateful as Catholic parents of 4 here in NZ

[@shellydickinson8598]

Jason Knows. His. Stuff.! Dang! I wish I had the capacity to hold all that information

[@laurants]

He's always been a nonstop talker. He's authentic and has been speaking on the one subject to the same age group for decades. I am very happy he came back on Pints.

[@GodSaveTheClothes]

My sister’s husband of 20 years has come out as trans. She’s staying with him and now calls him her wife. My sister will not have a relationship with any family members who don’t agree and call her husband a woman by his new name. It’s so sad and heartbreaking for our family.

[@mollym6375]

This is happening with my brother in law. 34, suddenly trans. It's been so hard for our family

[@TheLookatGodPodcast]

Praying and sending love your way! ❤

[@jordankennedy9053]

This is devastating. I am praying for your family.

[@MegsLeaB]

Ugh, heartbreaking.

[@Paul71H]

While it sounds like your sister is making this even more difficult for the rest of the family than it would already be, I think that this situation must surely be very hard for your sister as well. I hope that you're able to find ways to support her, even if it's only from a distance. (Prayer is always a good support, even if she won't accept anything else.)

[@Centurion556]

I think focusing on the history of the ideology may help change the minds of people in the middle, in particular talking about Money and Kinsey

[@lahair5751]

In theory that makes sense, but remember the eugenic and racist roots of planned parenthood and see where we are today with that.

[@Centurion556]

@@lahair5751 agreed but I would wager most people who support Planned Parenthood aren't very well educated about Sanger and history of eugenicism. I don't think this is the only angle to attack the movement, but it may be another good avenue to reach those who haven't made up their minds yet.

[@sharondelaney8572]

I’ve always seen the crazy of transgender theory. I have not really thought through the tragedy of it. More heartbreaking than I ever imagined. Thank you for casting such a loving light on this.

[@martyfromnebraska1045]

Weird. I feel like it’s blindingly obvious that you have psychologically damaged/disordered people who aren’t actually getting any help, and are being enabled instead. It’s tragic. Maybe my experience as a substance abuser makes me think about it differently. At least I didn’t have people telling me society was the problem and I should just keep doing drugs. I can’t imagine what it’s like to attempt to get help and just get your problem made 100x worse.

[@sharondelaney8572]

@@martyfromnebraska1045 peace to you brother. I hear what you’re saying. My takeaway was different. I don’t think anyone was suggesting enabling. I think rather it was about how to engage this with honesty and love. Congratulations on your recovery!

[@martyfromnebraska1045]

@@sharondelaney8572 Just to clarify, when I referred to enabling, I wasn’t referring to anyone on this podcast, or your comment. I was talking about the secular/medical/academic world’s approach to these issues, which, in my opinion, is oriented in the wrong direction. Instead of trying to reorient their dysfunctional identities toward objective reality, they attempt to reorient their behavior and bodies away from objective reality and towards their dysfunctional identities (it’s fundamentally an identity disorder). This, tragically, means people who need help don’t get help. Thanks. All glory to God.

[@daviresende5059]

It's just absurd how human Jason Evert is dealing with such difficult issues for "both sides". God bless him and his family!

[@dianaswanson5705]

Jason has really done his research 😮

[@laurants]

That's why getting him to speak is like $4,000-5,000 a night.

[@kingleary1829]

This episode is extraordinarily powerful and an unbelievable resource.

[@bahbahnosh]

This is a FREAKING fantastic interview. This is what should be on the news instead of half the junk that’s on there.

[@annemcdonald3770]

Jason's approach is absolutely beautiful. Thank you for doing this show.

[@jordankennedy9053]

Hey Matt, I have not had the chance to watch yet, but I wonder if Jason gets into how huge Tumblr was in creating this culture. I don't know if anyone else here can attest to it, but Tumblr is very responsible for fanning the flames with regards to this movement...I "grew up" on Tumblr and it is where I was first exposed to BDSM, transgender identity, pronouns, etc. The website is a total s*it-show, and there are entire communities of young teenagers who are encouraging each other to take on identities that (I am not joking) include non-human personas. I wish I never used it. It is a bastion of moral relativism and all the dangers therein.

[@marvalice3455]

here is a fun fact. the trans presence on tumblr mostly evaporated after they banned porn. now they are mostly on twitter. another platform were underaged kids can get infinte amounts of porn. I'm sure it's totally a coincidence! not related at all! also definitely not related to how all most of the "trans" people I have known over the years either wanted to be in sex work, or already were. definitely not related.

[@GothVibeWars]

@@marvalice3455 interesting, this does not surprise me at all.

[@TheSageSpartan]

Yeah he probably doesn't know much about it since he's a bit older

[@carolynschuster291]

Big time. I tried so hard to help some kids my daughter knew and Tumblr destroyed these girls- DESTROYED them.

[@serpentines6356]

@@carolynschuster291 Check out the interviews with Erin Friday. Part of the group "Our Duty" after struggling to keep her daughter away from the "trans indoctrination cult."

[@hopefulforhumanity5625]

I love how clearly Jason explains his points.

[@janetmunday1100]

Jason talks about camping at 1:46:33. Great family idea. Please know that I’ve worked as a summer camp nurse at single sex, overnight camps, and co-ed, overnight camps run by the YMCA, that have a strong culture of transgender counselors. They promote pronouns and ask their nurses to distribute hormones. I called NCBC to help me understand how to navigate that culture for 2 weeks. I only work at Catholic Summer Camps now and ask about the expectations before accepting the job.

[@evanwaniewski183]

wow that’s crazy to see a comment from you! hope all is well!

[@janetmunday1100]

@@evanwaniewski183 I miss you handsome boy!!!! We are in Ohio now. Say hello to your mama from me.

[@joevicario138]

I absolutely loved this conversation. Jason I used to listen to you several years ago for help with chastity, and it really helped. But hearing you today has truly blown me away with how much knowledge he has absorbed and how Christ is truly present in your ministry. You can feel it tangibly.

[@johnmichaeladelman1113]

10:18 - Jason exposing the hypocrisy there gave me a good chuckle, my mom brought me and my highschool buddy to one of his chastity talks (geared towards a college audience of MSU Catholic Spartans) and it sparked a major, inspiring change in my heart to learn more and grow in my faith. Thank God for JPII (please pray for us!) and his work in putting together Theology of the Body👏🏼💯✝️

[@shay-car]

So many lines where I was like “Wow. That’s such a beautiful thought.” So much love and brilliance in this interview! I hope someone clips the best bits for sharing.

[@capucinetosi3759]

Please pray for my old friend Sasha, she is now identifying as they/them and has cut all ties with me since that... She needs much love and healing because she has gone through terrible hardships in her short life. Dear God hear our prayers!

[@meaghanthorpe2675]

I’m lucky to have heard Jason speak when I was in high school and in college. I read “How to Find Your Soulmate” shortly after graduation and broke up with a man after reading four chapters, and met my husband less than a year later with these strategies in mind. And then we heard him together at a marriage conference! He’s been a huge part of my vocation as a bride. With that said, I think my temptation was to see Catholic speakers like Jason as a one trick pony with talking about chastity, as he’s done the last 800 years (to quote Matt), but I’m so impressed by his ability to grow in his profession and go deeper into where our messy culture needs him. I think many times, our temptation is to stay put where we are comfortable and know our stuff, but Jason impressed me with his descriptions of how he’s researched for his new book and has new talks to address the crises we are facing. I love how he described how we need to love people before our platform, and this interview makes it so, so evident! It calls me to grow in my own vocation-thank you, Jason! I’m grateful Sister Miriam James from Abiding Together recommended that listeners check out Jason’s book and this interview! And thank you, Matt, for how you conduct these incredible interviews! I always love your demeanor and your questions, but man, I especially love how you called upon the power of prayer in the middle of this intense conversation! Bless you and your team!

[@maureenandjimmcgovern1745]

I also learned of this from the Abiding Together podcast, and worth the 2:30 listen!!

[@dawntrudeau]

I believe our kids need to hear this. The story of the boy who wanted to transition because his sisters in his eyes were loved and he wasn’t, brought tears to my eyes. This is happening so often. We need to talk and listen. Most of all love these kids and help them. Thank you for this. ❤

[@angrypotato_fz]

Thank you, it was a great talk. Listening to Jason is inspiring some hope and teaches how to speak with empathy. I wish he and other alike voices were listened to a lot more here in Europe. May God bless and give growth to this ministry.

[@Sunshine.Sister]

Absolutely loved to hear this conversation! Some very powerful and insightful things said, and I love the encouragement to walk with people struggling and loving them. Asking questions instead of going off!

[@danieltracy7136]

They claim "gender" is a social construct, but are not their claims of gender fluidity, trans, etc. social constructs too?

[@judithmurray6458]

Absolutely brilliant! So informative. I will be sharing this here in Australia. God bless!

[@asiaswartzentruber9573]

this is, by far, the most in-depth, compassionate, intelligent, biblically informed conversation i have heard on this topic. this was so edifying to listen to.

[@kailynflores9850]

Wow thank you so so much for making this video and all your videos. It is so well done, and I really appreciate how different sections are book marked, thank you!

[@wanderingnode]

Thoroughly informative. There were moments my eyebrows raised high up and I felt amazed by the clear detailed information that shed light on so many topics and subtopics. Absolutely fascinating. I'm not a theist whatsoever, but respect and admire the knowledge, heart, and wisdom shed so much I must get this book. Thanks to both of you!

[@katesanchez3407]

Thank you for putting out this conversation! It is like a light of clarity in the midst of darkness. God Bless!

[@gogr2409]

Impressive conversation, very informative. Praying for Jason and his family and for this vital work. Thanks for having him on.

[@lulabella9249]

Dysconnected on the viewing platform Formed is a must watch! Thank you gentlemen!!! God bless you both.

[@mimiabraharufael8666]

What an Awesome conversation. Thank you both for such a valuable information, learned so much! & Thanks for the insight on how Not to get bogged down and feel overwhelmed by the subject matter among all the other news that can be negative towards us! What a Blessing this was!!

[@michaeldauphin7129]

Amazing interview. I can't tell you how much it helped my piece of mind, and brought me hope.

[@shimmermist]

This video was autoplayed but I’m so glad it was autoplayed 🙈💕 Thank you for the great interview!!

[@annawendel9090]

Wow what a great talk. Jason was able to talk about this topic with lots of knowledge but still be respectful about the topic. It’s hard to do that. Definitely sharing this video with others!

[@blessingsuponblessings]

HOPE!!! Praise God✨🙏✨ Thank you Jason and Matt!

[@tavopasquali]

What an amazing conversation! Thanks 🙂

[@christophercrusader3554]

This is one of the most insightful episodes I've ever listened to. Thank you

[@arkansas99]

I wish I knew before taking testosterone and having a double mastectomy. But now I know🫡🙃

[@lahair5751]

I'm so sorry. I am you. I would have done the same thing except I'm probably 25 years older than you and this didn't exist when I was growing up. My heart breaks for young girls because I KNOW I would be exactly where you are. Your voice is so valuable. Please help parents understand how to help young people when they're fighting against the culture. We don't know what to do.

[@EpoRose1]

Sidebar- Law & Order had a storyline based on the Dr. Money case, where a male twin was raised as a girl because of a botched circumcision, and were abused by the “doctor.” But when he found out at 14 and went back to being a boy, the twins murdered the doctor.

[@craigfrench5646]

Really thoughtful, compelling, and compassionate. Incredibly insightful. Thank you!

[@mariewenger3730]

This was such an informative discussion. I love Jason’s way of talking and listening to the kids- it’s what they need, not condemnation. May God bless his ministry and you, Matt, for bringing these issues to the forefront.

[@user-jw8pk4jo4x]

Amazing....so much information and background in such a sensitive way too..thank you Jason!!!

[@littleSILLIES123]

Thank you for taking the time to discuss this!

[@kailaleebabineau3962]

1:49:00 ish-- this is powerful advice. I hope to have such grace and kindness in difficult conversations.

[@AmeriKenTX]

Thanks Matt for this educational & inspirational interview. Jason, this is one of the most effective solution based approaches to this topic. Also, congratulations on receiving your citizenship, Matt! So excited for you. May God bless you & your family! Thank you Jason for all your dedication, research & hard work on integrating this subject into your work. This information will reach the world. God bless you both 🙏🏾

[@allenotna9793]

A reaaaaally good conversation! Thank you!

[@rosalindahally6386]

Wonderful interview. I'm sharing this with others.

[@caseypern]

This is such a wonderful video! Sharing with my friends

[@laurants]

Miracle: Jason Evert speaks in a Diocese in Germany.

[@mariethomas4703]

Wonderful interview. Full of compassion. I took my boys to see Jason and his wife over 15 years ago. Glad to see he is still changing lives.

[@janicedobis6490]

This was the best explanation, history and proactive approach to this issue I have heard yet. Thank-you. And God bless your efforts with this group of hurting people.

[@amyenglish621]

Thank you so much for this one! My husband and I have 5 kids ages 27 down to 18 and 2 grands who are 2 and 9 years. We have a close family, praise the Lord, and talk about beliefs, concepts, current events, etc and this has helped me be on a more solid footing with the gender issue and LGBTQ etc…..as it’s understood on so many levels, especially in correlation with our Catholic Faith. Knowing the TRUTH, that God made us…male and female…and that we find our identity in and through our Creator, would help people tremendously and these vids and books are a life line for people that are struggling. Thanks again and I will pray for you both! 😇✝️

[@thedaysibarelyremember]

As someone, who's been having a strong desire to be something I wasn't born since a very early age (I'd say clear signs started at ten at least. To be fair, there was no sort of trauma, it's just if I was deviant without any reasons), but at the same time started to believe in God and wanted to join The Catholic Church since around eleven on my own, even when no one around me was religious, I've always had that strong confusion between my desires and ideals. Your video is very helpful, thank you, may Lord be with thee.

[@MeatEatingVegan777]

I'm actually not a Catholic. But, this. This is the most loving and compassionate response to lgbtq I've ever seen. Beautiful! I delt with gender confusion on and off in my life. I'm not sure why it happened, maybe it's because I only grew up with a brother, and I tended to identify more with men than I did women. I'm not sure where it came from, but I do know that when I came to God, my gender confusion went away. I'm now completely comfortable and happy as the gender I was born as since coming to God. I am also no longer bisexual. Praise the Lord! ❤🛐❤ However, it's not that easy for some, and I have to be honest about that.

[@megtim]

Really looking forward to this one!! Has someone shown Matt the Matt Fradd vs Fratt Madd video?? It’s hilarious!

[@gingerbaker757]

🕯Sr. Lucia of Fatima 🕯(the principal visionary of Our Lady at Fatima:) "...the final battle between the Lord and the reign of satan will be about marriage and the family." "Don't be afraid," she added. "because anyone who operates for the sanctity of marriage and the family will always be contended and opposed in every way, because this is the decisive issue." And then she concluded: "however, Our Lady has already crushed its head." 👡🐉

[@messagesfromyoni]

Thank you for teaching the history. This is the best compassionate and fact driven video I’ve experienced🔥

[@frsandeepmenezes]

This was a great conversation! Jason always speaks with so much wisdom and compassion. When is his book coming to India?

[@ritauhl6624]

Excellent program! Congratulations for talking about this subject sensibly.

[@anthonyvillalobos3892]

This episode was probably the most powerful I’ve seen on PwA out of many, many great episodes. Huge Jason Evert fan after this. This man is a true Disciple of Christ. God Bless this show and thank you for introducing us to this man and his apostolate. Amen.

[@luisasalinas5968]

Amazing Video! God bless Jason for his compassion and humility, and also God Bless Matt for bringing brilliant people to the channel.

[@katemolly100]

This is awesome, great talk. Thank you.

[@shra0013]

This is incredible. God bless you, Jason. Thank you for your compassionate, intentional and intelligent insights.

[@MarkusFlaviusAntonius]

Man, I have just seen the first few minutes, and Jason is just so good!

[@marybratz3785]

This is so good. You have a new subscriber. Much better than the clickbait I’ve been watching.

[@barbarabraun114]

Thank you for all the information and positive action steps I can take

[@meg__mcd90]

Thank you for this conversation Matt and Jason. I have recently started reading St. Edith Stein's essays on women and femininity. They are profound and prophetic. Her approach to the human person and the sexes resounds with everything you said about the personalism we need to bring to these situations. I wish I had encountered her at a younger age. As a high school English teacher in a Catholic school, this subject breaks my heart as I know a handful of students (mostly girls) who are confused about the dignity of their personhood. Stein is a saint for our times and I think she could have immense impact on the girls of today if only her writings were shared/taught in Catholic education in a way that is age/grade-appropriate. A young girl reading another woman's words on femininity has more significance for her than if she were to pick up a Church encyclical written by a male Pope. "Every profession in which woman’s soul comes into its own and which can be formed by woman’s soul is an authentic woman’s profession." "The woman’s soul is fashioned as a shelter in which other souls may unfold." “Each woman who lives in the light of eternity can fulfill her vocation, no matter if it is in marriage, in a religious order, or in a worldly profession.” ~St. Edith Stein

[@pizzadohpaz]

Wow, I had no idea she wrote about this subject! I'd love to read more of her stuff, do you have any recommendations?

[@CatholicWeeb]

Thanks for this interview, very compelling.

[@elizabethbutler2863]

Jason is so full of wisdom. Thanks for sharing!

[@fr_francishein3790]

Just ordered the book. Thank you

[@guykinder8327]

So right I love how caring you both are to people that are going through this 🎉

[@thomascunningham7164]

Wow what a mind opening discussion, thanks for sharing. I know nobody will read this comment so here's a comment for the youtube algorithm so it recommends this video. More people need to hear this discussion.

[@FronteirWolf]

I've read your comment.

[@thomascunningham7164]

@@FronteirWolf Thank you :)

[@julieclonan2427]

I've read your comment too x

[@thomascunningham7164]

@@julieclonan2427 Wow usually I don't get many replies on youtube, thanks ☺

[@housecry]

Please, please, please invite Dr. Quentin Van Meter to discuss this issue. He's a pediatric endocrinologist. He's been speaking out against this and exposing its origins for awhile now. There are people who believe these interventions are actual medicine. Having him on would show just how wrong that belief is.

[@katdunn7934]

It was great watching him interviewed by Fr. Mitch Pacwa on EWTN. The medical profession needs help in treating people properly, not cutting them up and trying to make them something they aren't. Greed is a huge part of these people who "treat" them and fear the second biggest part.

[@DachoL777]

Thank you. God bless

[@GabrielSantos-dm5pm]

This guy's awesome. Mandatory episode.

[@crushtheserpent]

Jason's compassion is very inspiring! Blessings to you.

[@NoraRoisin]

Thank God for Jason Evert showing a compassionate approach that still insists on truth. I have been frustrated by the idea of having to compromise language to communicate, and do wish to insist on not letting terms get twisted, and terms get added, even though to a lot of Christians that can seem unloving. One is not only attacked from without Christendom; one is certainly at least not advised and comforted well within. Just to be clear: it's not that I personally struggle, but that I know we are called to be compassionate, but we are also called to be truthful, and people have not been discerning well what that really looks like.

[@caffacaff]

I'm from Ireland and those that screamed and protested your arrival, certainly don't speak for us all. How sad it is.

[@katemolly100]

I will always be so grateful for the claymation video "The Fable of He and She" I saw numerous times when I was young. Tomboy and proud woman!

[@blondetapperware8289]

God bless Evert! I remember first listening to one of his talks that was played on KZbin in my high school religion class. From then, I was caught by just how personable and understandable he was when talking about these topics. Now as a young adult, I feel that more than ever. This is what love and truth looks like, embodied in a Christian! Thank you, Jason.

[@susannapapagno7996]

What a compassionate, well-balanced approach Jason has to this issue. Bravo!

[@jamesrmcgalliard137]

"We are a delight to Jesus." I needed to hear this line today.

[@mikemurray2432]

Highly informative God bless you men

[@Chris-dh3jf]

Keep up the good work, Matt and Jason

[@baristus3109]

Great video, a perfect example of how hating the sin does NOT mean hating the sinner!

[@tinahochstetler2189]

28:03 thru 46:05 Alfred Kinsey, John Money, Magnys Hirschfeld, Harry Benjamin - details I've not even heard before. 01:10:42 "What is Woman?" Best breakdown of intersex conditions (disorders of sexual development) I've heard. very clear.

[@Indorm]

The church needs to open her arms and heart to these poor people.

[@alexandrepereira3902]

God bless you, your family, all those who help you…

[@Radslom]

Great podcast! I enjoyed it!

[@PB_324]

Thank you for seeing us Matt. Every thing about women is just so complicated from our bodies to how Society sees and treats us. MOST men will never understand.

[@maryannbautista3998]

I've watched this episode twice and both times have been stunned by Jason's knowledge, but mostly by his love and respect for those hurting people who are sucked in by this ideology.

[@AG-kr1my]

Amazing talk ✨️🙏

[@TiempoNuevo-ew7ty]

Love these videos with Pints.

[@mariajosefigueiredo2431]

I only came to this talk now. Thank you for it and the enormous love (true Christian charity) that you both show for people with identity troubles. It must be terrible going through all that. I've read and listened to a lot of stuff on gender and there's one question I still have to see answered: how can someone identify with something they're not and therefore cannot know what it is like to be? I understand rejection of what one is for many reasons, all of them traumatic, but feeling something you're not seems inconceivable - precisely because you're not. Thanks.