PIRATES: How to Deal With Them While Sailing | Sailing Wisdom

[@larryboles629]

I agree with you on who they are and where they are. Having been there. First I determine if they are coming for me by changing course. If they change course, it is out with all lights, out on the AIS, and out with my very loud talking partner. At 200 yards a round in their boat should should make them have a second choice. After that if they are still following it does get messy. I was anchored one night. 31' Sail, with my wife. Heard someone climbing on board at the cockpit. With Mr. Smith in hand, I quickly pushed open the companionway door. Let one round loose, I have never seen a human move so fast. He jumped over the railing, into his beat up old junk boat. He had a partner who started the engine and they got the hell out of their. For me I can not take the chance they are just going to steal and then go away. I am not that trusting of people who would do evil. With other souls on board, I can not sit back and pray they will be unharmed. We are all different I respect that. Each has there way of dealing with adversity. Trusting evil people to just steal and not harm Mandi is a leap of faith I could not take.

[@RiggingDoctor]

Yeah that’s why we just avoid the heck out of them. I would definitely feel more comfortable with a gun onboard, but it’s just too much of a risk coming into all these countries with a gun.

[@larryboles629]

@@RiggingDoctor Have your sales receipt, gun safety certificate something that looks official. Let customs officials know you have firearms. At the very worse customs may hold it till you depart depending on their laws. It really is not an issue as long as you have some paperwork and let em know your strapped. Also a couple of high-voltage tasers should always be on board. Be happy, be safe.

[@RiggingDoctor]

@@larryboles629 my issue is most crime will occur when you are anchored in their waters and that is when you won’t have your guns...

[@Jhowemca]

Listen to Larry Boles. If you lay down like sailing “wisdom” would “teach” you and let these guys on your boat to take all your things with zero resistance what are you teaching the pirates? Now if you handle it like Larry Boles does by letting a round or two fly into their boat hull at a couple hundred yards what is he teaching them? Sailing “wisdom”. You are encouraging and perpetuating pirates by “teaching” others how to react to them... Be honest now, did the pirates sponsor this video?!

[@jonathanoasis]

" and out with my very loud talking partner." yarrr! walk da plank !

[@jeffdurden398]

18" 12 gauge, 00 and slugs loaded alternately. Slug into the motor and sweep the decks with shot. Just saying.

[@davidcrabtree4399]

I can never accept to just lay down..with that said ill never go anyway near that crap..

[@BeamReach740]

Canons ... lots of cannons

[@Hoireabard]

What about torpedoes? Aren’t there any covert handheld torpedo systems that could be used to sink pirates before they can attack?

[@TechnologyRules]

As Larry Boles said, it's stupid to trust that pirates would not hurt you.

[@RiggingDoctor]

The best defense is to not be there ;)

[@HankMeyer]

Have you two ever done a video on how mail works in the cruising life?

[@SirCharles12357]

I second the motion! You probably take it for granted, but us land lubbers (dreaming of cruising) have no idea how you manage it.

[@RiggingDoctor]

That’s a great idea for a bonus video! Thanks.

[@LydieBaillie]

I know sailors friends who were robbed by pirates in the Caribbean Panama Colombia zone. They complied with demands to give all their electroinics, cameras etc and live to tell the tale. Off Columbia and Panama, for example, cruisers say tp stay 200 miles offshore. These are pirate mafias that station large mother ships very far off shore that survey the radar and then send off smaller open boats to attack crusing boats as they pass within range. Pirates are most prevalent where law and order donnot reign in the country, and again these are mafias, not starving fishermen. They don't steal food, they steal stuff they can fence. It's good to give them whatever they want and that might be the end of it, but there's is always the option they cast you overboard ort kill you to steal the whole boat if they fell it's worth it, so do be mindful. These are thieves, outlaws and your life is not important to them. Your suggestion to have little or no electronic postion broadcasting is good for stealth mode. Best is to just cruise so far off their path, out of their range that they miss your passingby.

[@spymaine89]

never take the chance that a thief will show you mercy. never let them approach scope, long range cross bow with exploding bolt , thats fire power. the crook will find a better victim.

[@DowneastThunderCreations]

Arrrrrrgh! You be spillin the beans and tellin all me secrets! No Spam for you!!!!😁

[@scott.wallace8625]

So i can sell my .50 cal m2 fully automatic crew serve machine gun? So masculine to shoot.

[@Jhowemca]

According to sailing “wisdom” you should give that gun to the pirates. Just allow them to have all your stuff...

[@jerrymiller276]

I like the flare gun. Try your best to put a burning flare aboard their boat. Even a miss causes much consternation.

[@connannbarbarin3033]

getting hit with a flare gun is nothing. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqKVXoCtr7utj5Y

[@jerrymiller276]

@@connannbarbarin3033 I seriously doubt that the captain of that TV was worried that the flare might cause his boat to burn to the waterline and sink out from under him. The idiot in the video showed no understanding of flare guns and only luck prevented him from burning himself seriously. A burning flare put aboard your boat is NOT nothing. Shades of Smoke on the Water. You know, where "some stupid with a flaregun burned the place to the ground." Except that there is not likely to be ground under a pirate's boat.

[@connannbarbarin3033]

@@jerrymiller276 flare from a flare gun is a terrible fire starter. It burns for 6 sec and it is a back of it that burns. Flare from a flare gun wont even burn you. It will hit you, bruise you and bounce off you. It will ignite only gasoline or extremely extremely dry and fine kindling. It will not burn down a boat. Even if you hit a pirate's boat (unlikely with something so inaccurate as a flare gun at any distance pass 10 meters ) and it starts a fire this fire would be very easy to put out and it wont course any significant distraction.

[@jerrymiller276]

@@connannbarbarin3033 Nevertheless, I WILL DEFEND myself and my family to the best of my ability and the equipment that I have available. If you carry firearms on a boat, you strictly limit where you can go. Firing flares seems preferable to just giving up and letting pirates have it all their way. Saying "that won't work" without even trying is not an acceptable solution. That won't work has been a well known refrain throughout history. Then someone comes along and does it anyway. I could always let them get close enough and toss a liter jar of gasoline aboard their boat and THEN fire the flare. It is about fighting with what you have available. You might not win, but going down without trying sucks. I doubt they will let me board their boat and build a fire by conventional means.

[@connannbarbarin3033]

@@jerrymiller276 Look into black powder revolvers. They are not considered a firearm in most places and will work great vs pirates armed with machetes, which is 95% of pirates that attack sailboats. Try to defend you self with a flare gun and you can expect things like this kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWqcYaGGpNSlpM0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3zWm3hrdpp4jaM nbc-2.com/news/crime/2020/11/14/homeless-florida-man-arrested-for-shooting-flare-gun-at-persons-head/ www.wktv.com/content/news/Large-police-presence-behind-home-in-Whitesboro-572750471.html

[@intheshell35ify]

I think I'm more scared of the doldrums than pie rats.

[@RiggingDoctor]

The thing about doldrums is there is no wind but the current still carries you along, so you will be brought to where there is wind eventually.

[@intheshell35ify]

Ahhh, so you're the glass half full teammate. Irritating but invaluable when crossing oceans, I'm sure.

[@komerwest3748]

I prefer a M60 belt fed

[@anthadon8983]

You say that firearms are a bad idea because pirates will simply shoot you, but then talk about using swords, axes, and fire-extinguishers to resist an attack. Why would you believe that pirates wouldn't respond with deadly force to your attempting to 'bash in their head' or stab them? Awareness of danger and avoiding it - as you discuss - is something everyone should practice. But it is also important to consider tactics you could employ to discourage or fight off a boarding, or what happens if pirates do manage to board. It is also worth understanding that while some 'pirate' encounters are not much more than a nightime anchorage thief stealing a dinghy engine, that there are also mother-ship based groups that may be more prone to violence or hostage-taking. Firearms are by no means an answer to all issues, and international legalities complicate where one can use them, but it is important to recognize if and where lethal force might be called upon. Best regards

[@RiggingDoctor]

Very true. The best option is to know where to avoid!

[@amerikanviking]

I don't know bout being "out of practice". You can never be out of practice if you have good marksmanship skills. There were times in the military where I went more than a year without firing a single shot and still scored 40/40 at the range. It is about doing the same thing everytime. 😊

[@RiggingDoctor]

For those of us who don’t have loads of training, we can get out of practice, especially when you are shooting from a moving platform at a moving target.

[@klausespen2236]

I just had this talk with my friends today

[@RiggingDoctor]

Ohh what did you guys come up with?

[@aaronr.9644]

In many parts of the globe, they might leave you alone after you hand off your belongings. But judging by previous accounts, isn't it the case that the situation may turn a lot worse if there are women aboard (at least in some places)?

[@jeannem6723]

yup; hate to see Maddie owned by Boca Haram....

[@RiggingDoctor]

Yes, we have a hiding place planned for Maddie

[@connannbarbarin3033]

@@RiggingDoctor Ye if you have a hiding place big enough for a human that pirates will not find, you have a hiding place big enough for a gun.

[@melindaherod7625]

YOU SHAVED!!! Mattie, your hair matches Charlie!!

[@RiggingDoctor]

Hah! This video was filmed back in Gibraltar!

[@organicoceans4459]

Great video! Thanks for sharing

[@ashleyemory5066]

The goal is to live 🤣 love you guys! Hope you are both having the time of your life and being safe ❤ miss you both

[@RiggingDoctor]

Hey Ashley! Miss you too!

[@josephlai9759]

Thank you very much. Very wise and sensible advice. But I cannot imagine the 'last stand' one will have to face when the protocol for a non-confrontation fails and life is threatened... how do one react instinctibely on one's feet? Humanly speaking, there will also be a dilemma of not wanting to hurt anyone potentially grave in one's defence. And even if successful, how do one deal with a pirate disarmed or restrained? Very complicated, I would think. This is a subject that is almost impossible to wrap one's head around when sailing in remoteness. One is a complete sitting duck.

[@RiggingDoctor]

I agree completely

[@justincruz8352]

To an untrained person gunshots going off will freeze most people. People usually just run or lay down in shock. Doing what you can to avoid areas or traveling with buddy boats if you have to go in risky areas is probably your best bet.

[@robw2379]

Those are good tips, but how do you avoid the kracken?!?

[@RiggingDoctor]

Carry lots of SPAM!

[@Viper_Poker]

Unless you are prepared to take a human life, dont bother bringing a gun onboard. That said seal bombs and piritechnics are kinda fun! ..... 🤔

[@coolhandluke45]

or bad cooking lol

[@jonathanoasis]

@Javier L congrats you just accidentally killed three rural fishermen and their preteen son while they were simply boating over to offer you their extra fish.

[@srqlisa7881]

Stay safe guys. peace

[@peterwilliams1004]

You mean marinas and chandlers?

[@RiggingDoctor]

🤣

[@RiggingDoctor]

🤣

[@SirCharles12357]

The dry chem fire extinguisher is a good idea. Hadn't seen or thought of that one.

[@Sonicozz]

People worry too much about pirates when in reality most people will never even see one, for me walking to my local corner store is perilous people getting stabbed and mugged all the times, don’t sweat the pirates just enjoy your sailing.

[@SV-DEDICATED]

I disagree. This episode hits the mark. Stay situationally aware. Know the threat of your cruising grounds. Those mentioned web sites make historical analysis easy. It's just a part of route planning much like weather is.

[@DiNiSRB]

How do you avoid Somalia? Go around Africa?

[@SV-DEDICATED]

I only know of one sailing channel to do the Suez. (small channel that doesn't upload much)

[@scott.wallace8625]

It depends where you are. I have seen more death in seattle in the last 2 years than i have seen in the prior 55 years including 7 months in iraq. Right time wrong time. Be at the right time. Assulting a room (boat) is fast and hard you will not expect it. You will not defend against it. If you do not see them comming? They got you. If you do? They are fucked if you have defence. Most likely they will hit you at anchor. In alaska they have 12v anti bear fencing. Grab my stantion asshole...

[@RiggingDoctor]

Did they make it through or is that why the uploads stopped?

[@haywood12]

I give that a 6.3 on the burb scale

[@jonathanoasis]

Pirates? Meh. But WHAT WILL YOU DO ABOUT CTHULHU ??? OMG it already happened look at that tshirt !

[@RiggingDoctor]

🤣👍

[@spider0804]

How to deal with piracy: Avoid the shitstorm that is Africa. The distance for your mast lights to go below the horizon is probably around 10 miles or so. The irony is they drive people away with piracy which leads to them being in worse conditions.

[@RiggingDoctor]

Out mast head light is a bulb type that I put an LED bulb into. It doesn’t work well... Our deck nav lights are LED and work great! After having ships say they don’t see us with our mast head lights and instantly seeing us when we click up the deck lights. From that we determined that the masthead light is just too dim to see far away! Hence we always keep the deck lights on.

[@spider0804]

@@RiggingDoctor Having a dim masthead light is probably a good thing in the waters you are talking about. If someone just sees the deck lights and no mast light they would assume it is a motor boat and not a slower sailboat.

[@DurinSBane-zh9hj]

Just tell them Keith Richards is your dad

[@Godshock777]

I have lots of guns and shoot regularly. Board my ship and they'll pay a heavy price.

[@RiggingDoctor]

👍

[@luckylevio]

👍👍👍

[@joeymartinn1]

I can never roll over like that. I’m pretty sure your things isn’t the only thing at risk especially with a woman onboard. As a prior military man and my brother being in the navy and specializing in piracy. That is terrible advise when it comes to these situations. This advice is preparation for being victims for the worst.

[@RiggingDoctor]

Our advice is to steer clear of troubled areas and sail around it in safe waters. If your brother is in the navy on anti piracy, then he can tell you what equipment and personnel are needed to defend a boat. It’s a lot more than a single couple with a few guns... Being a sailor means being smart instead of strong. Sail around a fight instead of risking everything needlessly.

[@RiggingDoctor]

It’s not about rolling over, it’s not showing up to the fight 🥸

[@KennyMcCray]

Yaaaaaarrrrrr!

[@zwergje1096]

Really funny and informative!

[@jeremylivingstone4110]

Absolute Gold ...who would have imagined that these Good Folk from the African Coastline Could have the Audacity or the Creative Spark to Pillage on the Near Seas ...wonder if it's their idea of International Maritime Law implementation..? Sort of like they're Patrolling and Confiscating contraband... Be interesting to talk to them about their Attitudes and any Grievances .. As I said if you land on a Treasure Island I can think of no other Couple worthy of the Booty Buried there . .. Many thanks for approaching a Very Delicate Subject. ...with Humour What About Keeping Chocolate Bars to hand out to them or A case of Bootleg Moonshine ? Nemo Dat Quod Non Habet Sail on me Hearties ⚜️

[@RiggingDoctor]

We do have a couple packs of cigarettes (we don’t smoke) and some cheap beer to hand out to people who come up to us asking for money and stuff. So far we haven’t needed to use them yet.

[@jimmybrokos4610]

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@PanceriMarco]

a pirate video without a burp isnt a pirate video...

[@klausespen2236]

That burp lol

[@MrMojo19611]

Im more of a fan of launchy molitove cocktail at them.

[@JonMadsen70]

:)

[@stevenplancich6449]

Hmm. Another thing to worry about 😥 But useful for Surviving 😎

[@WindedVoyage]

Guys, I sailed straight down from the Canaries to Cape Verde, you're way off shore and encountered two ships. I've been sailing around the Cape Verde Islands two years and met many sailors who sailed from all over. No pirate encounters! Fishermen and their nets, yes! I also sailed the Med from the south of France. Stopped in Tanger, Morocco. No pirates! Guarda Civil, Police and cargos, yes. I have been, and know people that have been boarded by pirates, they are called thieves. And this has always happened close to land. The worst pirates are the one charging crazy marina fees in trendy spots where there's a good chance you'll get robbed anyways. The safest places are the one's where there are little to no tourists. Again, I know. Got my dinghy oars stolen at Cape Verde's most popular tourist spot, Santa Maria, Sal. And yes, a shiny new big charter sailboat got boarded right next to mine, robbed at knife point. And me and my boat? Nothing. My boat is not as attractive perhaps, and I made sure to make local friends which greatly helps. Pirate stories are just that, pirate reality is mostly fiction and hearsay.

[@RiggingDoctor]

That shiny catamaran that’s got boarded next to you and held up at knife point is called a pirate attack.

[@WindedVoyage]

@@RiggingDoctor Thieves. I'm a pirate, because I love freedom and so are you. Come out to Mindelo Bay, one of the great pirate hideouts.

[@connannbarbarin3033]

I disagree. There are quiet a few time guns stopped pirates. Going in to a firefight with a sailing vessel is just not worth it. Swords and flares and fire extinguishers are just a provocation.

[@RiggingDoctor]

That’s why the best option is to sail far and clear of such troubled areas so that the situation never arises. Going into a firefight with a sailing vessel is foolish, sail around it the same way you would sail around a rock or bad weather ⛵️

[@connannbarbarin3033]

@@RiggingDoctor no i meant it is unprofitable for the pirates. If you will sail around every dangerous coast by 100 nm (which wont help you with mothership pirates) why sail at all?

[@melinda5777]

LOL! FIRE A FLARE PISTOL AT THEM!

[@connannbarbarin3033]

getting hit with a flare gun is nothing. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqKVXoCtr7utj5Y

[@melinda5777]

@@connannbarbarin3033 I wasnt talking to you troll.

[@connannbarbarin3033]

@@melinda5777 you are talking to everyone when you write a comment on a public website, sweetheart. That is how internet works.

[@melinda5777]

@@connannbarbarin3033 really?! Oh, thanks another! Your very intelligent! 🤣🤣🤣 And I'm not your sweetheart.

[@connannbarbarin3033]

@@melinda5777 No problem.

[@lairdofdunstan1093]

Be aware that last year 17000 Africans managed to reach the canary islands to claim asylum, these people sometimes wait on the sea in their boats looking for yachts to board

[@melindaherod7625]

LOL!

[@markleyg]

Pirates? Spent a little too much time at Disneyland?

[@RiggingDoctor]

Nope they’re real haha

[@NAVIGATOR600]

SERIOUSLY ELIMINATE THE COMEDY SIMPLE SOLUTIONS ARE NOT WORKING WE NEED TO TALK STAT CONTACT ME

[@BeamReach740]

Why are you yelling? I support the comedy

[@quickdry3]

@@BeamReach740 maybe they have a certain unique set of skills :p

[@justincruz8352]

im guessing you're 70 years old