PLAD 450 & AAC-58DW Review: DONT SLEEP ON THESE!

[@Skystrike1535]

PLAD 450 might be the first heavy class to be a legitimate replacement for many of the off road trucks. Its decently fast despite its size and supports alot of the more used addons with the exception of a low saddle. I still wouldn't take it down narrow trails though. AAC is actually pretty decent too. It can still get stuck in deep mud holes even with the JAT tires, but with its special transmission and always on locks its the first of its kind thats not annoying to drive and slow over less demanding conditions.

[@NProvince]

They both are very very strong trucks for their respective classes for sure

[@1carusGG]

Nah the 6455b is still a stronger offroad truck.

[@SD1ONE]

Man, I miss regular 6x6 offroad trucks, In early days of snowrunner offroad class was biggest in terms of no. of trucks but now heavy class is biggest & by a big margin.

[@NProvince]

Yea.. I miss them too as well. The Heavy class is slowly becoming the only class created in the game. I’d love to see the old 6x6 kamaz come to SR or something besides the continuation of the Super Heavies

[@winteronice]

I want a Zetros. Unimog I would also take. But yeah, the 6x6 should get some love.

[@GrySgtBubba]

I too very much miss that. I'm not a fan of the huge trucks either. 5-6 at most should be it. I like the mid-sized 8x8s, but wish they'd add more 6x6 regular trucks though. Let those have all the addons, and the super heavies have just long log, high saddle, maintenence and fuel tank only.

[@bankhanger2]

There is a zetros mod that is very well balanced ​@@winteronice

[@generaldisarray4146]

Wow. The clip showing it not tipping was amazing. Thanks for adding that kind of proof to your explanation. You da man, Nate.

[@NProvince]

You’re welcome Rob! Glad you enjoyed that part. Hope all is well brother

[@G4mingWithJJ]

8:06 that’s my favorite testing spot lol there is massive boulders close by the garage easy to get to test the collision mesh in an area everyone can relate to/retest themselves. Sort of a random throw away plus. The spare wheel on the bed makes it a great overloading truck when combined with the crazy stability. I drove around with 3 slate blocks out of the quarry twice and didn’t tip either time. The wheel kinda holds stuff in the back and crane/cab holds it in front making overloading a bit easier. Great video as always Nathan! Keep up the good work.

[@NProvince]

Hey thanks JJ. Ya that spot is really good for testing frame flex as well. I started using that area around the time of my bandit review to show it was an 8x8 that could boulder crawl. Ahh I never thought about the wheel on the bed working as a brace to hold cargo! Thats really good thinking. 3 slat blocks and still stayed on its wheels? I believe it for sure. I appreciate the comment and that info on the custom bed exploit!

[@mikedavis-cb7il]

I find the AAC-58DW extremely efficient. I run with the final engine option and the exclusive "special" gearbox. It feels like it's fuel tank lasts forever, not to mention the roof rack has 2 full refills, as someone who is super picky about fuel consumption this might be my new favorite scout!

[@darekf1776]

Yeah, I like this scout, so much better than Rock Grinder ,Falcon or even some older one's.

[@dominikrychta-dodo8928]

Finally I've watched all your truck reviews. It gave me fresh new perspectives and I mostly agreed on your opinions. I enjoyed your reviews, so thank you for all the effort you put in it and I'm looking forward for your future videos.

[@NProvince]

Wow that’s A LOT of videos to watch. Also the playlist “other helpful SnowRunner videos” might give some more in depth insights as well. I appreciate you watching those!

[@MrSteveenn]

I want to like the PLAD because it's amazingly capable, especially compared to something like the Derry Special. I just can't stand using it because of the constant clicking/ticking sound that plays at all times. It drives me insane and I swear I've never seen anyone even mention it.

[@NProvince]

Ahh yes that shoulda been a downside I listed

[@marines1091]

Little late to the party, but thanks for the heads up! I've noticed that on the DAN as well and it drives me nuts! You are the first person I've ever seen mention it. I turned a lot of sounds down so it's not as bad but man is it aggravating

[@nakolulu411]

ive been using the plad for loggings only,i remember pulling long logs and anohter plad with long logs up some of the alaskan steep hill with no chain tires without any issue whatsoever,the plad performs really good on ice even without chains tire

[@NProvince]

I believe it pulls very well due to its tire weights, which are essentially a way to give lower power to weight heavies the ability to do this. Crazy strong truck for 245k torque

[@fgpraxis4463]

Thanks for the review. The Plad seems very capable : 63'' tires, great stability, decent/good power and power to weight, good options. About ground clearance especially front/low but also back and side, i've seen people testing it by using the Cat TH 357 lifter. The Scout AAC seems to be very good at pulling for a scout, one metal beam is heavy (5t) and it did well in your video. That said the tires diameter is quite small (39' ?), that should limit on hard map with lot of deep mud/snow.

[@NProvince]

You’re welcome. Glad you think it’s capable. Its ground clearance definitely is not low. The imaging and the example provided clearly shows that. I’ve never seen a better collision model than this

[@vladvulcan]

the AAC has 35" tires

[@fgpraxis4463]

@@vladvulcan huh that's really small

[@vladvulcan]

@@fgpraxis4463 well, it's a scout. Loadstar gets 41" with lifted suspension, Step 310E and Kodiak get 43". Such large tires on a scout are a rarity.

[@fgpraxis4463]

@@vladvulcan Overall Scouts have smaller tires, but : Ford F750 47'', Yar87 49'', Tuz 420 47'', ok these are top tier Scouts, but 35'' ?

[@1carusGG]

OP as this might be, I really think that this would've been so much nicer with a 3 slot bed. It even looks like there is space for it. I wonder if someone is going to come up with a mod for this. BTW, despite this game being called "Snowrunner", there aren't a lot of Snow maps. I would actually like the devs to give us a few more Amur level maps before they stop development for this game. The last few maps have been either hybrid snow maps or just mud maps with no personality. Amur, Imandra, etc feel like extremely well-designed maps with their own personality.

[@neon55]

I tried the Plad today and its very good indeed. Feels very solid and stable, and even if it does not have all the attachments mastodon does, its much shorter and more manoeuvrable. That high saddle sits very high, making this a good candidate for heavy trailer towing, since they wont scrape the ground as much.

[@jeanrunkle1059]

With the biggest engine upgrade fitted it's even better

[@jeanrunkle1059]

Plad is my new favorite truck! His name is plad.

[@vladvulcan]

Thanks for the review, Nate! One thing I didn't like here: you used to voice over each pro and con by name, here you don't. With me listening to the video more than reading the text, it's easy to miss where one part of the video ends and another starts.

[@NProvince]

You’re welcome :) Ya I have started this around perhaps maybe a review or so ago. I felt like it was just wasting time. Folks can see the text on screen so I felt like folks can read well enough and also the chapters are denoted on the video to be used as guides as well

[@L3scape]

great video as always. I was a little unsure about the PLAD but I will give it another chance. Def a like from me. Also, Am I the only one who think the Caterpillar TH357 is the best scout vehicle to open maps if the forks are removed? eats up mud better than actual scout trucks. keep up the good work Nathan

[@NProvince]

Thank you! TH357 without forks is a good scout. I agree

[@SentinelxPrime]

I really would like to advocate for the JAT MHS 4 on this truck. I've been able to get it through deeper conditions with those than I have with the ohs2s. Also, to use your own argument in favor of it, the MHS4 has a lower dirt/asphalt grip which should theoretically improve climb performance by allowing the tires to slip more, especially since this truck slightly lacks power.

[@NProvince]

For slip to add to pulling and width for negating sinking, ya those are two good points, however where are the areas in SnowRunner where that’s needed past season 6?

[@SentinelxPrime]

@@NProvince british columbia?

[@NProvince]

I don’t remember super mud in BC. Heavy mud maybe , but super mud is North Port Alaska type stuff. The NW side of Duncan bay is just heavy imho. A good way to cross check this would be with snowrender

[@SentinelxPrime]

@@NProvince yeah bc doesnt have super mud agreed, but it does have the steep climbs! I'm currently playing through amur and for that the the plad has been great! It would be interesting to do a comparison of the pulling power with the different tire sets to see how much of a difference it makes!

[@Tytus01UNIT]

It only misses 3 slots + crane on the back + trailer ... :D It looks like it has a space for it.

[@jimmeislerthejammachine6434]

Keep on Trucking 🚚🚛🚙🛻

[@waduhek2568]

I think fuel consumption is dependent more on truck than the engine? E.g. azov 6 and azov 5 shares engine but azov 5 consumes more idle and way more in operation too.

[@NProvince]

It’s actually 3 things: 1. engine does have a consumption value. 2. Gearbox option ( your example of the 64131 vs the 5319 is the gearbox) the Azov 64131s gearbox options have a 0% AWD penalty when the Azov 5319 has 30% and above pending gearbox options. 3. Vehicle weight; the amount of P2W a vehicle has determines how hard the engine has to work to move its weight. If the engine is stressed and has to work harder more often, then it’s going to burn higher amounts of fuel. Examples of this can be the P12 in some instances even though having a great gearbox; its power to weight is so low that its engine is almost max effort a lot of times. In a lot of cases when I am operating trucks that have an AWD penalty associated with their gearbox, I will disengage AWD to save fuel while activating diff lock alone pending when over rear wheels. I hope that kinda makes sense

[@josephtaylor5909]

Another super review 👏💪 well done we know its fresh out of the box so to speak but in your gameplay if this truck its viable. I do think as a seasoned player if snowrunner myself us veterans of the game should understand trucks like this should not have a ton of addons ans be spected to do everything we desire we arw supposed to learn and drive these vehicles better with our skills right. The players that was every addons known to man with a vehicle that rerives from the original Faun beast ballast truck should be driven and adored with minimal extras. That part of this community I've never understand in wanting the game to soften up and for maps to be with simpler terrains smh, if that is what you play this for then saber should make a arcade style basic fun easy gmae for those players. Mods ate out there for people to make things simpler but i do no think daber should afree to soften this game up ever i for one love all the difficulty it gives, even though i despise Imandra i played it and achieved alot i just dont like snow truly as a person at all in life and playing on it in a game isn't fun for me. But we should stop expecting silver spoons with this game it began as tough and we use our minds and our patience to make it work and the love for snowrunner is just that. If this game ever slips into simplistic or designed with vehicles all set with similar full utilities i will have to day goodbye to this game it must stick to what made it.

[@NProvince]

Hey thank you! Very well thought out response as well. SR has folks that love it one way and then we have the crowd for another

[@garettpeterson4005]

Great video Nate and a great truck in the top five in my opinion

[@GrySgtBubba]

Fair review as always. I, however, am a touch disappointed in the PLAD by way of its not so great diff-lock AND lack of some power. It's got the same weak diff-lock problem as the Derry 15C had on initial release. Hopefully that gets fixed cause I constantly had a wheel or two getting locked up on objects randomly and preventing me from continuing. Pulling the construction trailer out of the mine, I had to grab the M917 to winch it over basic boulders twice, and once ona broken rock/cement section. Once I ran outta fuel near the top, I reset that mission and used the M917 and it did the mission in 3/4 the time 😢 The AAC-58 is honestly a shocking good scout so long as you stay outta mud though.

[@SentinelxPrime]

I dont think there's such a thing as diff lock in this game. They simulate it by sending the same amount of torque to all wheels but even with the diffs 'locked' they still can rotate independently. The problem you describe may be a symptom of heavy trucks that lack power.

[@NProvince]

Thank you! So the Derrys issue is it simply doesn’t have super heavy tires. This has essentially hamstrung it pulling wise even though on paper it probably should be the king of pulling.

[@GrySgtBubba]

@@NProvince Ohh. So maybe what I should try then on the PLAD is use its stock tires next time. I was using the MSH II's cause they look so good on it. Didn't realize the 450s stock's were super heavies. Haven't had much time lately to go into the xmls of the new truck...or even play SR. Thanks man

[@NProvince]

All of the plads tires are coded as super heavy, not just its customs. Thats what makes it very unique

[@GrySgtBubba]

@@NProvince Oh seriously? Huh... Wonder why the MHS II's have such a lock-up issue when it hits hard surfaces. That's odd. Must just be its lack of overall torque then. Maybe 5-8k will solve that, hopefully.

[@Syntenyy]

Great review, absolutely love the look of the PLAD! Unfortunately I don’t have the DLC yet. Did you also take a look at the Atom? The buffed it slightly right?

[@NProvince]

Thank you! Yea I might have either covered it on a stream or a short video on its changes. Atom is much more stable now. I might’ve only looked at in the the PTS when it was said and done, but I haven’t reviewed it completely SnowRunner Developer Confirms IMPROVEMENTS To Azov 67096 "Atom" kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpKplnWlpNmNi6s

[@reecewestmoreland6137]

I like the PLAD however i feel it suffers on the new map just due to all the tiny narrow tracks around the quarry and the hills in and out of them, so i limit it's use in those area which is i think a good way to make players use other trucks.

[@NProvince]

That is true, I think these spots were by design to encourage use to use smaller more maneuverable trucks. I actually like that they did this

[@suxix7312]

Just had to add that I was like #420!

[@vladvulcan]

I really like the new scout. As you said, it has good stability and significant (for a scout) weight, which helps with offroading. The PLAD... I'm not sure how to feel about it. We didn't need another superheavy beast of a truck, there are already too many of these. Yes, it's capable, but I don't like driving it - it's too heavy, turns slowly and has very annoying sound that reminds me of Azov 5319. That one is justified to have that turbo whistle, because it's so fast. But hearing that and slowly crawling through stuff? Thanks, but no.

[@NProvince]

Ya I don’t think we needed another one of the super heavies as well tbh. Perhaps they will throttle this back and give us trucks that have decent downsides that drivers need to combat or else this game just morphs into such an easy game that it’s almost like watching a movie

[@UnWeyBasado]

Wow another 8x8 with huge power and tires so original Saber... Nice video

[@NProvince]

Thank you!

[@justinlynch3]

It's an offroad cargo hauling game. What else are you expecting other than big powerful trucks with big tires? lol

[@UnWeyBasado]

@@justinlynch3 it just makes the game pretty easy tbh

[@passerati_ab]

Yep, a new 6x6 offroad-truck would have been better

[@Nor-tc8vz]

Both the Highway and Heavy Duty classes are neglected as of late.

[@jafsterlordbib]

hey nate did you see the frame flex and suspension mod? Seems to bring back some of the offroading charm of mudrunner

[@NProvince]

I haven’t. I’ll look into it

[@jafsterlordbib]

@@NProvince do it. Looked really interesting. Would be fun to see how you like it.

[@FranklySean]

If the truck did have all the big numbers, then you would be complaining that it was OP.

[@NProvince]

It is still OP actually lol. I think the video examples and evidence showed as much

[@JL-rj9fl]

@@NProvince Yeah, that balance looks fantastic. Great video as always, it's been a while since I've had a chance to watch some of these.

[@Flik_13]

Always great videos man, appreciate the hard work and time you put into each one.

[@NProvince]

I appreciate that!

[@Lethanyr]

Great video as always. Wow. Jaw dropped on Plad stability and really nice all around.

[@NProvince]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@mellowmoo6747]

another banger, always find myself smashing that like button on your videos!

[@NProvince]

Much appreciated, thank you!!

[@Joshua-me7fx]

Been on a kick watching your videos, got back into Snowrunner kinda heavy lately, finally got the Kenworth 963 (love that rig) and got the Plad unlocked and loving the game all over again. Love your work, and enjoyin spending time plowing around in the trucks. Thank you!

[@NProvince]

Thank you! Glad to see you’re back into SnowRunner!

[@Joshua-me7fx]

@NProvince watched your videos before and loved it, but ya got me excited about it again lol. One AF vet to another, I appreciate ya and really enjoy your videos!

[@Tytus01UNIT]

Dude, those balance tests were hard to watch ;P ... All of my body tells me that this truck should have tipped 2131 times already... Amazing balance.

[@NProvince]

Its was pretty crazy to witness for sure lol

[@92c900t]

The PLAD might be my new favorite heavy, as it fixes the problems inherit with the Derry Special despite lacking the superior MHS2 tires. It's stable and much quicker than the Special which bleeds so much power in wheelspin. Big advantage with always on diffs and why the Special, Tatras, etc.. are slow as mollasses. The weaker tires aren't even a bad thing, keeps it from being OP and with the JATs it walks through death ice like the Zixzs. I've criticized the plethora of "cookie cutter" scouts, but the new one is quite good with the special transmission, S power and always on diffs. One of the strongest light scouts. But like so many others said, we need more medium trucks like the Pike and Mack defense for the sake of variety.

[@NProvince]

So the tires are actually the reason the PLAD is better than the Derry tbh (also balance). The Derry has heavy tire sets, the plads are all coded as super heavy which actually adds pulling power per testing and data mining. This has shown to outpull the Derry in places and that can be viewed on SD1ONEs review of this truck as well.

[@RevolutionFalls]

It looks like the Plad has slightly higher lift on PC, compared to Switch. I was right about the suspension bug

[@NProvince]

That’s very odd that it’s different

[@RevolutionFalls]

@@NProvince trust me, it’s mainly the Tatra trucks and the Paystar 5070 with issues, the Plad’s is barely noticeable. Either way, I really like both of this season’s trucks

[@RevolutionFalls]

@@NProvinceWE FIGURED IT OUT! Me, Blaise, Lone Sausage and nakedDave all figured out that it’s a physics issue relating to wheel weight and suspension stiffness (somehow). The only way to fix it is by making all wheels heavier than they normally are, which could also buff trucks on Switch (which will also have to be dealt with).

[@skipthefox4858]

Kind of wish some of the newer heavies had some more flaws. It seems like every heavy truck added outclasses the previous one

[@NProvince]

I’m gonna agree with this completely as well.

[@bossfight6125]

I’m just glad we have a new scout that isn’t “just another scout” like the MTB in season 12. The AAW is probably one of the better scouts they’ve added in a while.

[@0ptera]

I would've overlooked the PLAD as a Kolob with more addons and roof rack, but seeing that collision model (or rather lack of it) I certainly will use it a fair bit as high saddle hauler. My focus for S13 was on the AAC. A front heavy FWD with high torque and special gearbox makes for a great vehicle to drag Exploration Units or even deliver cargo.

[@IWatchYouFromAfarOfficial]

I just got Snowrunner a few weeks ago on PS5, I struggled at first but I'm getting the hang of it, just finished Michigan in around 70 hours 😅 Starting to find a lot of resources to help, including this channel, which is helping me understand how the trucks work and how tires work etc. I love driving sims in general but I've really fallen in love with this game, hopefully I'll find plenty of good pointers while digging through this channel. 😊

[@NProvince]

Hey nice, congrats on Michigan. I’m Glad SR is becoming easier for you. There is a lot to take in for sure. On this channel, in the “other informational SnowRunner videos” there are a lot of useful info on driving and things of that nature. Also the truck reviews will govern you an idea of how they can be put into work based on your comfort levels.

[@sgt.marcuspstacker2287]

Awsome its more fun as you go! Also if you have trouble with the steering switch it to wheel in settings helps a ton on console with controls

[@martymcfly3091]

Hello Nathan and thanks for your review. I also noticed how incredibly powerful the brakes are compared to other trucks! Maybe you'll think of me the next time you have to brake with it 😉 Have fun.

[@NProvince]

Nice thank you!

[@BlaineKlemmer]

The plad is my new favorite truck

[@pavelsmetana4546]

Wow, new trucks, new seasson (I'm somewhere in Seasson 6, not much time to catch up :D), but this truck looks amazing, altough one thought still occured to me during watching the video - isn't that truck maybe a little bit OP? The stability seems out of this world and how you went through that muddy river.... just wow. I remember the beginings in Michigan, where just to see pool of mud my heart dropped down :D Now, driving very often ZikZ 612H I just wonder - where's the challenge....

[@NProvince]

Don’t worry about catching up. The game will always be there. Just enjoy the journey. Ya these super heavies (do it all heavy trucks) have kinda been taking over the game. This is why I made a video about the heavies destroying SnowRunner a little while back. Because of this (and I’m glad someone actually noticed this issue) I tend to try and use smaller lesser trucks to actually feel the maps presented. Large trucks just go through whatever

[@чакчаксглазурью]

install real life mod and this problem go away

[@brooksrownd2275]

cue the New Truck Smell

[@martymcfly3091]

6:10 Do I recognize the "Factory Grounds" map here? I think so. If so, it wouldn't have been a shame if he had tipped over here, but what he's done here is impressive! Hats off.

[@G4mingWithJJ]

Hello Marty!

[@martymcfly3091]

@@G4mingWithJJ JJ 😲😂 nice to see you!

[@G4mingWithJJ]

I just finished watching yes that is factory grounds it’s if you turn left from the garage and then turn left before the bridge there is a really bad spot on the road which is what Nathan was showing off it goes on some crazy angles. Yeah gotta appreciate Nathan’s works much the rest of the snowrunner community lol.

[@NProvince]

Yep that is the spot!

[@martymcfly3091]

@@G4mingWithJJ Yes, I thought I remembered the place lol. Cleverly done by the devs, you think you are using a shortcut to get to the other map quicker and easier. Short cut trap, so to speak 😉

[@thedefinitive6296]

For the PLAD, I'm using the Westline engine with the Advanced Special gearbox with the JAT tires you mentioned. It's not the fastest, but it gives it an S rating on P2W which makes it great for hauling the heavy stuff. On the road, I'm still able to get the backend to kick out around corners which is nuts for a truck this big. The fuel consumption also isn't too bad. I do have an Atom setup for refueling but I've never needed it for any of the missions I've done with the PLAD. And the stability...it's crazy how tough it is to flip this truck.

[@NProvince]

If you’re using the westline, then the torque has to be somewhere around 210k (ish) depending on which variant, unless you modded it. This truck with its max engine is 245k and it still has one of the lowest P2W rating in the game which is noted on this video as well. I believe you probably do manage to pull things still being that its tire codes are super heavy giving it the pulling boost. Hey if you like it and it works; then keep chugging along !

[@vladvulcan]

It's impossible. The top Fanis-19 engine only gives it a PtW of "A", the Westline V12 is way less powerful, so it should show like B-.