Plane's Explosion Kills Passengers | TikTok Roast

[@kenbrown2808]

Kelsey: you forgot that in the case of an explosive decompression, three reams of loose paper will be ejected into the cabin to fly around and let everybody know there's been an explosive decompression.

[@74gear]

yes, that is the true threat... the flying manuals.

[@ARWest-bp4yb]

@@74gear You could end up with a nasty paper cut!

[@CTSFanSam]

I guess that happens so you know you are about to go blind, pass out, to finally blow up.

[@kenbrown2808]

@@74gear I wonder if they are like chaff dispensers, to distract FAA investigators with paperwork.

[@kenbrown2808]

@@CTSFanSam it's like when you do a suicide quit in Lemmings, complete with the sound effects.

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

“if you’re in a crashing plane, you won’t get informed” if you’re in a crashing plane, you should see oddly close terrain

[@FieryWACO]

Mentour Pilot's most recent video detailed a plane that remained oddly closely to terrain after losing an engine at takeoff. Some of the crew basically said that they were screwed. Good thing the pilot didn't give up, tho.

[@gofastER]

If you’re crashing a plane and knew you were crashing a plane, you’re probably trevor jacob.

[@pleappleappleap]

If you're in a crashing plane, you might feel the impact.

[@Stew2130]

It's not the crash that gets you, it's the transfer of energy on impact.

[@thehaprust6312]

@@FieryWACO The new 747 Ekranoplan!

[@ShortHax]

I’ve noticed people on TikTok somehow manage to have a cumulative IQ lower than a tranquilized mattress

[@unitforce7417]

Tik tok is a iq killer machine

[@butchieblock9118]

Love it!! ---the comments, that is!

[@ARWest-bp4yb]

That's an insult to tranquilized mattresses everywhere! 😄

[@hovnocuc4551]

Content on TT is generally just a low effort and low quality filler for the low quality shit someone's trying to sell. They don't really try to inform anyone about anything, their business model is attracting as much braindead people as possible. There's no risk of people being misinformed, because consumers of such content aren't able to consume an information in the first place.

[@flyingturtle4313]

this comment rly got me, I'm rofling

[@cdkx655]

To be clear, even in space explosive decompression doesn't rip you apart. I think she probably saw something like those really bad diving bell accidents involving multiple atmospheres of pressure difference, those can rip you apart. But there's only 1 atmosphere of difference between sea level and space, and while that will ruin your whole day and kill you, it aint ripping anyone apart.

[@KonradTheWizzard]

...or her boyfriend forced her to watch the original "Total Recall" or "Outland" - otherwise great movies with really bad decompression scenes. Whether exposure to space kills you depends on how long it lasts - anything under 5 minutes is easily survivable (with some help). It will ruin your day though - I mean, the paperwork alone....! ;-)

[@thehaprust6312]

Byford Dolphin (bring a sponge).

[@redboyjan]

She probly thinks covid vaccines have chips in too

[@richard2720]

She probably sneezed and scattered it all over herself f

[@djg5950]

@@redboyjan I thought, now here's a girl who believes in Chem Trails. No educating the people who believe all this stuff.

[@thunderrain789]

5:40 That's what I love about the channel Fascinating Horror. He covers these disasters, but he goes out of his way to explain exactly what happened and what improvements were made to make sure it doesn't happen again. Very respectful of the victims as well.

[@slimek20]

Ooh sounds cool. Thanks for the indirect recommendation!!

[@thunderrain789]

@@slimek20 You're welcome, hope you enjoy him as much as I do.

[@gillianconway2536]

I love that channel!

[@borisglevrk]

Also "explosive decompression rip you apart" Well British Airways flight 5390's captain was not just subject to explosive decompression. He was half sucked out, hanging in chilling low-oxygen winds until his first officer managed to land the plane. And guess what? Not only did he survive, he continued flying till his retirement.

[@brh.1892]

Woah, that's crazy - definitely have to google that!

[@Kalvinjj]

Also Aloha Airlines Flight 243, sadly one cabin crew didn't survive, but, hey, there was a damn gigantic hole on the top section of the fuselage, that 737 turned into a convertible. It landed and all others survived.

[@benjaminchaston7202]

Southwest Airlines Flight 1380 unfortunately the passenger didn't survive though.

[@hayunnie]

@SJ S Actually, yes. He was hanging out of the front windshield panel while his colleagues were holding his feet. They thought he was dead but didn't let him go (mostly because they didn't want him to get sucked into an engine and down the plane). Edit: British Airways Flight 5390

[@RocksterOO1]

Er... I'm pretty sure he landed along with his first officer and his plane, way before he retired, Boris!

[@huskytail]

Kelsey, you are one of the handful of people who made it possible for me to go back home more often. I used to be so scared of flying I avoided it altogether and didn't see my brothers and aging parents for years. I know it's terrible, I was just terrified. It's not exactly related to this girl's video but it also kinda is.. It's not her misinformation that is helpful, it's content like yours. Thank you for making it easier to see my family more often.

[@thesparkypilot]

That’s so awesome. The more you learn the easier it gets. I used to cry at the gate before trips, then started absolutely loving aviation the more I learned!

[@suegardner]

This is brilliant, that was my situation when my family were living in Spain and I'm in England,. I went maybe twice in ten years. It was a shame, because I actually now feel excited at the thought of flying. Seems like my fear stemmed from misinformation too. Glad you're getting to see your folks now!

[@doggy7210]

I don't fly very often. Recently took my first flight in years. I felt much more at ease after watching 74 Gear.

[@Wileylikethehawk]

The more you learn the better I suppose! I’m still super terrified to fly though - haven’t got over it quite yet.

[@susieq8684]

@@Wileylikethehawk don’t get why people are terrified of flying. When you get in a car you can die the same way you’d die in a plane crash. Only difference is that airplanes are hundreds of times safer. Don’t get me wrong, no one including me, would like to go spiraling down to the ground knowing that they might die, but there are so many more worse ways to die, which are many times more likely to happen to us. I just find it hard to understand since I’m finishing up flight training, but respect your guy’s opinion nevertheless.

[@simplystreeptacular]

You *know* a TikTok is bad when Kelsey dedicates an entire 15+-minute video to ripping it apart. [grabs popcorn]

[@AstroGoalHorns]

He ripped Jade apart harder than the theoretical passengers in her video 😂

[@Merescat]

kettle corn is my fav

[@Elmo6855]

And here I thought a TikTok was bad because it was a TikTok 😂

[@thesparkypilot]

🤣🙌

[@StortWeldingCoLLC]

AGREEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

[@kevinbourke7800]

As a physician who has supported military and civilian aircrew since 1988 (and done my share of Human Factors analyses), I thank you for your clear, honest and safety-oriented discussions. Your balanced topic reviews are a breathe of fresh air. PS- I experienced an explosive decompression from sea level to 24,000’ in training via hypobaric chamber…. and didn’t even die/explode!!! LOL

[@andycampbell5491]

I always enjoyed the chamber even if it’s just from a people watching perspective. Oh how we all react differently.

[@LG-qz8om]

You were one of the lucky ones who didn't explode. What's the trick? Did you hold your breath? haha

[@Alex-js5lg]

I'd be so disappointed if I signed up to experience explosive decompression and didn't explode even a little bit.

[@billwalker917]

Kelsey, you're very kind to those poor ignorant content providers with their mix of a few facts mixed with misinformation. They truly show the value of education and the result of a lack of it.

[@test40323]

I am so tired of these opportunistic vultures praying on the vulnerables and profit by them; thanks Kelsey for being the voice of reason and debunking them!

[@chnet968]

The problem is most social media platform algorithms award traffic for exaggerating "news" that lots of people will click into , so the content creators do have incentive to make video that are exaggerating enough to get the traffic, without the need to check whether it's valid or not.

[@mikes4163]

There's always been money in processing and reselling 'sh1t'. This is just 'sh1t 2.0'.

[@gnarthdarkanen7464]

@@mikes4163 Society's lost a lot of class since the "good ol' days"... Used to be, you'd call it "Manure" when you process and resell sh*t... ;o)

[@kyle333halfevil]

Essentially it's a scam.

[@gnarthdarkanen7464]

@N Fels 🤣🤣🤣

[@jillnoseworthy7161]

It’s people like her that’s the reason I stay away from TikTok. Thank you Kelsey for being the voice of logic and reason in a world of Misinformation

[@kelvin1316]

Not to mention I have better things to do with my time then watch inane 1 minute videos one after another lol

[@Normal1855]

Same here. Everything I've seen, from tiktok, is that they're a bunch of uneducated, whiny babies, who only use tiktok, to hear themselves speak.

[@cooltwittertag]

@@kelvin1316 rather watch 15 minute vids back to back?

[@grizzlygrizzle]

Well, I for one got some interesting information out of her video. Apparently Tata, an Indian maker of cars and trucks, has some kind of joint venture going with Hitachi, a Japanese maker of tools, heavy equipment, and more. That's more gripping news than anything she had to say. Tata and Hitachi are both interesting companies.

[@nallid7357]

@@cooltwittertag rather watch an informative 15 minute video than a misleading tin foiled hat 1 minute video.

[@anne189inator]

god i can't imagine how annoying it must be to have so much misinformation about your passion get so spread around

[@74gear]

its annoying to see them scaring people

[@termitreter6545]

Its possible that the video is just intentional clickbait, to farm clicks from people that disagree. Seems a bit too scripted and confident in the obvious misinformation.

[@oldRighty1]

Try being a doctor these days.

[@joecolvin4203]

@@oldRighty1 lol

[@lisanadinebaker5179]

Oldrighty1 - you win comment of the day, sir. If I could give you 100 likes, I would.

[@michaelantone7465]

Boy, Kelsey, that woman is a mess! Thanks for giving clear and sensible explanations about these issues! We appreciate your skill and experience. ✈

[@CurtisCOX-we1ot]

Kelsey , my son was a crew chief for a kc 135. He is in officer training now wants to become a pilot. I love your videos. They are real informative. I told my son about your channel because I think he could learn a lot from you. So keep em coming. I will let you know when he gets some wings.

[@Auntie-Sara]

🥰

[@jackielinde7568]

Point of Correction: Even in Space, your body won't rip apart in an explosive decompression situation. Gasses dissolved in your blood are likely to form bubbles (not really boiling), and moisture on exposed surfaces (like your eyes) will freeze. After thirty seconds, you will lose consciousness, but as long as someone gets to you before two minutes, you should survive the situation. I think the one minute mark is when your body starts experiencing damage, so I won't say you'll be fine. But you can live through the first two minutes of an explosive decompression scenario. No eyes exploding, no bloody mist, none of those sci-fi tropes of explosive decompression in space. That's all hooey. One thing I've seen on some of the reports I looked at while researching this for a book, there's a general consensus that one should exhale instead of trying to hold on to a lungful of air. The idea is that exhaling helps minimize effects of the gasses bubbling in your blood by limiting how much air is in your body.

[@grahambaker6664]

Actually the reason for exhaling is to reduce the pressure in the lungs to lower the risks of the alveoli bursting from rapid expansion. This is the same reason that divers exhale during assents. There is a risk of nitrogen bubbles forming in the blood and joints during a rapid decompression event whether flying or diving. This is commonly called "the bends". It is less likely to be persistent in an aviation incident than a diving incident because the pressure differential is lower when flying than when diving. Typically the bends would only be a significant risk for military pilots ejecting from pressurized aircraft who are not wearing pressure suits and who eject near or above the Armstrong Line (the height where the pressure is low enough for water to boil at the prevailing atmospheric temperature)

[@Najolve]

Soyuz 11 is a great example of space exposure although finding specific details about it is difficult (only one of the cosmonauts had a biometric sensor and it indicated cardiac arrest about 40 seconds after the exposure).

[@jackielinde7568]

@@grahambaker6664 Oh, I wasn't implying this was something someone in a commercial plane would experience. It's just there's a lot of misconceptions about explosive decompression, and it kind of sounded like Kelsey was alluding to "people blowing up" in space. The true is, even space, you're not going to get a splat in the event of exposure to a true vacuum. For something oddly delicate and can drop on a dime, the human body is weirdly resilient as well.

[@grahambaker6664]

@@jackielinde7568 I have no problems with your comments but wanted to clarify the gas bubbling issue for the lesser informed casual readers. The human body is remarkably resilient at altitude given it developed for a terrestrial existence.

[@the18thdoctor3]

The one minute (or so) mark is where your brain becomes fatally hypoxic. After 10-20 seconds, your brain doesn’t have enough oxygen for consciousness, and then after 60-90, it doesn’t have enough to function at all. But as long as you’re recovered before 90 seconds, yeah, you’ll probably be mostly fine.

[@MadLabScientist]

Misinformation and sensationalism from news media lead me to be scared of planes for a while. I felt better after actually getting into an airplane, but flight school made me even more comfortable because the regulations and safety mechanisms were explained to me. Gaining knowledge works to alleviate some fear. That's why I love your videos

[@darkwing3713]

That's so great that you went to flight school when you had been scared of planes.

[@thesparkypilot]

I’m in the same boat as you! Hated flying, was so scared, now I’m working on my pilots license 🙌. Information is power!!

[@margotrosendorn6371]

I'm taking a similar approach with firearms. Guns won't be so terrifying once I've taken safety classes and learned how they work. Not planning on shooting anything anytime soon, I just want to ease my anxiety.

[@fairyprincess911]

I wish everyone used this method of reasoning😼😉

[@TheSgtHanson]

“Way back in the day, like the 80s or 90s.” Why did that sting so much? 😂😂

[@s9292]

@Karen S so true !,, omg I m old

[@DocuzanQuitomos]

Hahaha, it's true. But, thinking only about aviation, talking about the 1980's and the 1990's is like talking of a whole different world. Airbus didn't even exist, the computerized model it brought wasn't a thing then, several safety procedures were not yet in common use, some technologies were not yet in common use in all aircraft, some dangers of weather were even less understood... You read the reports or the stories in some of those crashes and feels like a different age (in spite the dates sting right into our feelings of youth XD).

[@stinkyham9050]

Ya that hit me pretty hard too.

[@wizardmix]

Yessir I was taking some biiiig chances flying commercial in the 80s (actually compared to now I was but it was still safer that traveling by car even then).

[@torgejh9189]

@@DocuzanQuitomos My man, that's all spot on except the fact that Airbus has been around since 1970.

[@Piaz1n]

2:00 in fact, once here in Brazil it happened that the commander announced to the cabin that the aircraft would crash and said: "may we all have a good end". This happened due to a mistake in navigation heading input, which made the plane fly to heading 270 Rather than 027. The aircraft crashed in the middle of the Amazon Forest after lose all the fuel. Despite that, most of the occupants have survived, including the commander and the first officer. This happened with the Varig 254 flight.

[@brunominecraftguara4827]

Yeah

[@timwells637]

why do pliots try doing risky moves like lot the time are trying to hit someone on the ground or dont care if they do or dont what happens if you hit somebody on the ground because you make a short landing

[@timwells637]

why do pliots try doing risky moves like lot the time are trying to hit someone on the ground or dont care if they do or dont what happens if you hit somebody on the ground because you make a short landing

[@timwells637]

why do pliots try doing risky moves like lot the time are trying to hit someone on the ground or dont care if they do or dont what happens if you hit somebody on the ground because you make a short landing

[@timwells637]

why do pliots try doing risky moves like lot the time are trying to hit someone on the ground or dont care if they do or dont what happens if you hit somebody on the ground because you make a short landing

[@johnfrank4558]

If I'm in a plane in trouble I hope my captain is calm and thinking about how to save us and not worried about telling me what is going on... Thanks for your channel, great stuff

[@margaretmathis4775]

Amen❣️

[@kevinepley2795]

So many uninformed people that do’t get blocked for misinformation on social media. Thanks Kelsey bringing reason to the masses

[@mikewedge808]

See as much as people are idiots, censorship is way worse.

[@stinkyham9050]

@@mikewedge808 I agree sort of. One of my core believes is freedom of speech regardless of which country you're from. I also think spreading misinformation these days is incredibly dangerous. Just look at the whole anti-vax movement right now which is happening purely because of misinformation and internet influence. It's an incredibly complex issue that I don't think has one answer. People like this pilot can help though until we figure it out.

[@mikewedge808]

@@stinkyham9050, whether you get vaccinated or not personal choice. People should be free to choose for themselves, the rest of us be damned. I made my choice to get vaccinated based on personal experience having been vaccinated in the past, but regardless of what is posted, everyone has the right to make their own informed or uninformed choice. Freedom is non-negotiable and "the good of the masses" doesn't trump it.

[@stinkyham9050]

@@mikewedge808 I agree, if you want to get vaxed or not it should be personal choice. I'm talking about the misinformation campaigns that are out there. There's hundreds of videos and other "evidence" that people just make up. Should that be allowed? Honestly I struggle with wether that should be allowed. On a social media platforms I think it shouldn't if the owner of the platform doesn't want it on there. I think people forget that these platforms are private property owned by corporations that can make up any rule they want to allow or disallow content. Like I said it's a complex issue that 20 or even 10 years ago wasn't such a problem but now everyone has a voice and that has turned out to not nessacarily be a good thing. I'm not just talking about anti-vax I'm talking about everything. Elections, climate change, public policy, hell even the world became flat again after 500 hundred years of people knowing it was round all because of misinformation campaigns. I hear stuff from people everyday in my regular conversations with them that I know is wrong. I don't get into with people because I dont want to spend my entire day trying to correct people, I don't want to be that guy.

[@fairyprincess911]

People actually believe that blocking lies (the opposite of facts) is censorship. It’s not but people BELIEVE that and it’s such flawed thinking😶‍🌫️

[@radicaljellybean2672]

I always find it hilarious when people say the pilots will just ‘give up’ in an emergency , like please, pilots can make 6 figure salaries for years of training and you expect them to just throw that away the moment something goes wrong?

[@jlangevin65]

It doesn't matter how much they get paid; their end of plane almost always crashes first. That's plenty of motivation not to give up.

[@Cultural_Supremacist]

Easy to see where your priorities are...😋

[@nmfitts]

That always kind of concerns me, because, like, pilots also have their lives on the line. I am not a pilot and do not have their technical skills, but I've been in situations that require quick thinking to avoid disasters. If these people's cars malfunctioned on the interstate, would they just go "oh well, guess I'm just going to die", or are they gonna do everything in their power to pull over safely or at least mitigate the crash (yknow, hitting some brush instead of a telephone pole)? Pilots are going to do the same thing with a plane, because they don't want to die.

[@ryleighs9575]

@@nmfitts This is the plainest, truest answer lol. They're also humans who are also on the hypothetical crashing plane lol - they don't want to die like you don't want to die.

[@thespankmyfrank]

@@nmfitts Also, pilots get training in exactly how to handle those emergencies. So they won't even panic as much as a random driver on the road.

[@georgehill8285]

Yeah on the communication thing is really important. A few weeks ago I was on a flight and as we were taxiing I heard a lot of banging underneath my feet. Then the plane stopped and we sat for a while. After 10 minutes the flight attendants started counting people, and after about 20 minutes the pilot came on and said there was an issue with the weight and balance. But they didn’t tell us for 20 minutes because they were busy trying to fix it. And I’d rather they’d work on fixing the problem rather than take time to explain to me how planes work.

[@fbmfbmfbm]

The last sentence is so true. I'd rather the pilots try to prevent a crash then take the time to tell me there might be one :)

[@gretchenlittle6817]

Yep, a few months ago I was on a flight landing in Florida that had to divert to another airport unexpectedly because of a microburst at our destination airport. The pilots did a great job climbing, banking etc. to escape the danger and it was a little tense in the cabin for about five minutes. When we got out of the storm and leveled out on our way to the diversion airport, they made a cabin announcement to tell us what happened, and where we were going. I'm glad they concentrated on avoiding the danger!

[@tbozzz8785]

Not quite sure banging and such while just rolling would've been due to a weight misbalance lol would figure it'd be a malfunction with the landing gear since that's only thing down there..sounds like they were severely overloaded or just trying to downplay the issue lol idk tho I don't work on aircrafts just vehicles but makes me curious

[@georgehill8285]

@@tbozzz8785 well, that’s what they said. It wasn’t a full flight and I figured the bags weren’t stowed properly once they said that.

[@thedausthed]

@@georgehill8285 That banging was the plane running over the people they were tossing out the front doors to try to fix the weight imbalance.

[@lab1042]

"Way back in the day, like the 80's or 90's". Well, now I feel old.

[@Spiriluli]

I'll never get tired of saying that TikTok-ers and the likes need to be held accountable for the misinformation they spread on a daily basis. They make me sick, along with the companies that allow them to do so for profit

[@davecarsley8773]

"Held accountable"?? So in other words, stupid people shouldn't be allowed to speak? Sorry, but I don't want to live in that world. I'd rather let EVERYONE speak, and rely on my intelligence to know when I'm listening to a stupid person (like the tik-toker in this video).

[@LG-qz8om]

All of whom are experts in their field -- Disinformation - Propaganda.

[@matsv201]

Im delighted to learn from a 14 year old ticktocker, that a lot i learned about aviation at my 9 years in university.. was mostly wrong.. I guess we can close down the universites now

[@missaisohee]

yeah it's just a waste of money we all should just mandate people to watch tiktok vids as the sole form of education

[@PASquared]

Same story with a lot of other things in the past 2 years. Surely conspiracy theorists know more than scientists...ugh

[@Thermalions]

You could possibly forgive them if they were 14, but sadly many of these misinformation tiktokers are what we apparently have to refer to as adults (despite the contradictory intelligence on display).

[@jeepersitsmeepers]

Kelsey, big fan of the content. Thanks for making my Sunday even better 🤙🏼.

[@74gear]

glad you are enjoying them Nicholas!

[@ericgarcia404]

I agree!!

[@paulbrouyere1735]

@@74gear I have to admit: you’re definitely funny debunking these fairytales. Well done considering in fact this is serious business I was almost crawling on the ground laughing out😂

[@anthonyhigbee3544]

The fact she says that a 12G accident could shatter your bones when F1 driver Max Verstappen had a crash at over 50G in Silverstone this year and walked away from it is hilarious 🤣🤣

[@KonradTheWizzard]

I totally agree. The really fun part is: 12G is what a hard drive experiences when you place it on your desk sideways and it tips over or what you experience when you fall off your chair - bad for the hard drive, very survivable for humans. Something crashing into the ground at over a hundred mph means hundreds of Gs. If I remember correctly accidents become deadly at about 100G.

[@redditshortstories122]

was about to say that

[@coast2coast00]

In a soyuz parabolic launch abort, the cosmonauts can experience about 21g's sustained for about 8 minutes. It's all about acceleration over time. 12g's could kill you, spread over 10 or 20 minutes, it can cause your blood to pool in your feet, starving your brain of oxygen. 200g's is survivable if it's only experienced for an instant. Max's 50g crash was probably a 300g crash without the tire barriers, gravel trap, and crush zones in the car. All these things slowed down the impact so it was (something like) 50g's over .7 seconds rather than 300g's over .05 seconds.

[@rykehuss3435]

@@coast2coast00 "12 g's could kill you, spread over 10 or 20 minutes", dude 12 g's will kill you even if youre an experienced fighter pilot in a g-suit, in a manner of minutes. If youre a nobody with no g-suit you are going unconscious in seconds and death will follow in a few minutes as your brain starves of oxygen. Fighter pilots pull around 9g at the maximum, and only for a few seconds. Forget about 20 minutes at 12 g, anyone would be long dead by then.

[@omega91006]

@@KonradTheWizzard "accidents become deadly at about 100G"?? Where did you pull that data from??

[@tysonskaggs5290]

“Pasty white as me” Kelsey you make me laugh 🤣🤣 do more of these please!! I love your videos, keep ‘me coming!!

[@chuckufarly5]

as someone who deals with quite a bit of mis-information in my field of railroading i can only imagine how you must feel sometimes, another well done video tho, and watching your videos has actually made me feel okay with flying...whenever i may get a chance to go on a plane in my life.

[@kristita_888]

Kelsey: “Waaaaaaay back in tha day, back in the 80’s or 90’s…” Me: Remembering being a whole ass adult in the 90’s 😂 *I’m old*

[@elainelouve]

I was just a teenager, but these "flying used to be so much more dangerous back then" comments freak me out.xD I was already flying, like going to France in 1995.

[@kristita_888]

@@elainelouve It’s so funny, because my dad worked for an airline and I grew up in airplanes. I did most of my flying in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. There were more accidents back then, but it was still much safer than getting into a car!

[@mandywalkden-brown7250]

Not as old as me, sounds like I’m at least a decade older if that helps any!

[@Lepidopray]

I've been a flying passenger since the 70s. It sounds like I should be retroactively terrified. But at least I miraculously survived routine travel 🤣

[@elainelouve]

@@kristita_888 true, as a child I had such comfy trips in the car without a seatbelt.x) And it was shocking to watch some modern crash tests be done on old cars, especially compared to the new cars (there's videos on KZbin). Btw we drive a 25 year old Saab, and those had an amazing reputation for safety back then. Now that I've seen how it performs in a crash test, I'm kind of feeling like we need to update to a new car. But yeah, there's always been far more accidents with cars and even buses than planes.

[@gofastER]

“During an emergency the priority that every pilot is going to have is fly the plane” trevor jacob enters the chat. Then bails.

[@kenbrown2808]

nicely done.

[@queeny5613]

Amazing

[@badbadrobotrobot959]

Who's this Trevor Jacob everyone is commenting about?

[@lukeorlando4814]

@@badbadrobotrobot959 you dont want to know. But an Olympic snowboarder turned daredevil you tuber. Had a very suspect engine failure and rather then try to land the plane or even restart the engine. Jumped out having been wearing a ski diving parachute he had put in before taking off. Did not remember his memory checklist items but he did remember his selfie stick as he sky dived out, allowing the plane to crash into the Californian hillside. Then hired a helicopter to remove the plane before authorities could investigate.

[@kenbrown2808]

@@badbadrobotrobot959 he's an ex olympic snowboarder who uploads youtube videos of himself engaging in risky behavior. the commenting comes from the fact that - in the most diplomatic way of saying the facts that are confirmed: he bought a used airplane that had lost its airworthiness certificate, did some of his own work, which would have required him to have a mechanic's certification or had the work certified by a certified mechanic. recorded video of himself leaving lompoc airport aimed at a mountain northeast, had the engine stop running over hills to the southeast, almost immediately bailed out of the airplane, with a skydiving parachute he always wears when flying, but has never been wearing in any other flying video he's published. then filmed the plane crashing. hiked to where the plane crashed, to collect his cameras, and then hiked out until he met some people who "just happened to be in the area" and then uploaded the video. it is alleged that he didn't file a crash report until after the FAA contacted him and told him it was necessary, and it is alleged that he chartered a helicopter to lift the wreckage of the crashed plane to someplace unknown.

[@laylahahmad6468]

2:55 that’s true I watched the documentary about the Alaskan airline crash and those pilots did everything they could to try to save the plane even told everyone to brace for a water landing as if they will survive. They were real heroes RIP

[@mey7579]

Alaska Airlines Flight 261- May they RIP

[@joyfulanomaly3984]

“or being as pasty white as me!” Kelsey, I love your self-deprecating humor and calling BS on most of what she said.

[@humbertoruiz116]

Hi Kelsie I love every time you roast those irresponsible you-tubers talking nonsenses about something they have absolutely no idea but they just do it anyway to get some extra “likes” they don’t care if make nervous flyers uncomfortable it’s really annoying.

[@АртурКораблев-у6х]

Hey, Kelsey! Thanks for the amazing content, I just recently found your channel and now I just can’t stop watching the vids. As a ground handling ramp agent it’s very interesting to get to know more stuff about aviation from an actual pilot. Best of luck from Latvia!

[@LAppleDumpling]

Thank you for your service! :)

[@aussieevonne7857]

I'd love to see You Tube content from someone in your profession. That would also be interesting!

[@74gear]

thank you, glad you are enjoying it, I still haven't gotten a layover in Riga but hopefully one of these days.

[@johncamp7679]

Kelsey is one of my favorite channels, he has a great sense of humor also. People send him really mean messages but he’s so cool about it. I’ve been watching a couple of years

[@aussieevonne7857]

@@johncamp7679 I love it when he reacts to the mean comments. Very funny.

[@ToraPandoraPGS]

Thank you for making these videos! When I was a kid, I was absolutely terrified of flying (while I'm still afraid now, it's not nearly as bad as consistent exposure to flying has really helped) and I'm so glad social media wasn't really a thing back then as those type of videos would've freaked me out more. These TikTok videos are disgusting and I'm glad there's someone like you debunking them. It's also just cool learning new things about aviation!

[@samsonleeljackson3874]

When you're in a crashing Plane you won't get informed. Well the ground will definitely inform you.

[@AnotherPointOfView944]

Well, you do actually.

[@gnarthdarkanen7464]

The question is, do you REALLY NEED the pilot or co-pilot (whoever's free to do so) to get on the PA... "Ladies and Gentlemen... uh... we;re experiencing severe technical failure...uh... it looks like we're screwed... uh... I've gone ahead and shut down the no-smoking sign... uh... so smoke 'em if you got 'em... uh... I'll see you all in hell when this is over..."??? I kinda doubt it... ;o)

[@SpydersByte]

@@gnarthdarkanen7464 I would love for the last words I hear to be "I'll see you all in hell" :'D

[@gnarthdarkanen7464]

@@SpydersByte Well, if I were ever in a position to have to try to land a plane (as a passenger, since I've never followed through for the pilot's license) I'll be sure to pop on the PA with a message something like that. ;o)

[@BK-cj4le]

Your comment "Pancaked into the ground" split my sides... that was so funny!

[@fleia262]

The point you're driving home around 5:00 is too real. I've seen countless disaster investigation breakdowns, and now I have little fear of flying, considering the aircraft is, in my mind, just a big clump of redundancies and back-ups, and the pilots are very well trained and informed

[@itsnotme07]

Thanks Jade! Providing great info for Kelsey to explain or laugh at. Don't fart in flight cause your butt will explosively decompress. right?

[@DaedalusYoung]

Breast implants will violently explode on planes. That's what they tried to tell people back in the 90s.

[@margotrosendorn6371]

LOL reminds me of the time I brought a tin of macaroons for an in-flight snack. The lid had bulged freakishly and made an embarrassingly loud PLAP when I opened it.

[@clyne8835]

@@margotrosendorn6371 macaroons? Like the French snacks? In a can? Or am I thinking of the wrong thing

[@Bhd1812]

Watching Kelsey trying not to laugh with some of these clips makes these videos even more entertaining 😃

[@gilmarriner3011]

Kelsey, nice job once again. I‘ve always said these people on Tik Tok provide absolutely nothing for society. My thoughts have now been confirmed.

[@tcb268]

Tik tok and KZbin Shorts are mind numbingly awful. Thankfully I learned how to remove KZbin shorts from my home screen. And thanks Kelsey for another hilarious roast!

[@sparkledejager1965]

Love your dry sense of humour and the balanced way you explain things.

[@RWS4038]

Hey Kesley, I'm a big fan of your channel. I work abroad and I used to dread flying back home and would not even eat the food onboard. Every slight vibration/discomfort would send me into a panic. Now, I sleep comfortably. Indeed knowledge is power. Thank you for sharing.

[@astonman4]

Jade is such an expert.....perhaps she should present her thesis to us all, or maybe even confirm when she was 'published'?? Given that with all of the data she has meticulously sourced and proved for her TikTok 'report' - to be able to provide us mere mortals with such important information - we should all be sooooo grateful!! 🤣🤣

[@jahbern]

I know people like to hate on us English teachers and our nit-picking about citation styles - but THIS IS WHY! People are so incredibly lazy that they don’t even bother to cite sources. And then people get lazy by not insisting that people spouting “facts” actually DO cite their sources. And then we end up with generations of people who just believe what people say on freaking KZbin, of all places. And not just in aviation. God help us, people believe absolute nonsense about things like the Covid vaccine - take literal strangers’ word for it - with no sources. Thanks for coming to my TEDTalk. Next time your English teacher circles the wayward comma in your MLA or APA citation, be sure to thank her. (And THEN roll your eyes - but only if she can’t see you 😉)

[@AshrZ]

@@jahbern Darn, why couldn't you have been my english teacher? :))

[@redboyjan]

She doesn't even know what Google is, to research facts

[@shawnbivens9738]

Kelsey, Thank you for all of your aviation education segments. There is peace of mind that comes with being an informed and mentally prepared flyer.

[@fizzyfilms7411]

My favorite videos are the TikTok roasts, I showed them to my cousins and they LOVED IT! You’re funny, and your smart. Keep up the great work, Kelsey.

[@ericsscout]

I've always been told, it's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the end. 😁

[@thesparkypilot]

Love this roast Kelsey!!! People like you helped me go from extremely nervous airplane passenger to working on my pilots license 🛩♥️. I’ll always be appreciative of that!

[@dirkdeigler]

it is impossible not to like this guy

[@kewlztertc5386]

Jade isn't talking about a "controlled" nose dive. She's talking about crashing straight down. 😂

[@stevea4416]

Hey, Kelsey. Happy 1M subscribers (just around the corner)! Thanks for the excellent channel.

[@coder0079]

Another great video, Kelsey! I've run some numbers through an online g-force calculator. Assuming the plane hits the ground at 350 MPH and your body decelerates to 0 MPH in a very generous 0.1 of a second, you will experience around -160 g. 12 g will not break bones nor cause any organ damage, and neither will -12 g. However, under sustained 12 g, most people will not remain conscious.

[@Peter_Cordes]

Yup, was going to comment the same thing: pancaking into the ground is bad *because* of the sudden deceleration. It's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the end (high acceleration). Acceleration can be measured in units like m/s^2 or g. (1 g is 9.8m/s^2). g-forces in a collision will be in the hundreds or thousands of Gs; Modern cars have crumple zones to spread out that speed change over more time, reducing the peak acceleration. 12g is nothing when it only lasts for a fraction of a second. (Negative G of -3 or more for any sustained time can burst blood vessels in your eyes, or even in the brain. Humans are most able to handle G forces that push along the short axis, like the direction gravity pulls if you're lying on your stomach.) So the error in talking about G forces in a crash isn't a matter of dimension (units), just quantitative. Although there are other ways to measure crash damage, but peak G is a reasonable one.

[@blaineadams7484]

Just flew into LAX Saturday. Because of your videos I realized not only did we do a go around but also the pilot floated the landing and then forced it to the ground. I had just enough time to recognize what was happening and then brace for when they forced it down and hit the brakes very very hard.

[@PhantomStella]

Thanks for setting stories straight and giving us facts!

[@Max200012]

Jade is doing really blatant fearmongering. Absolutely shameless

[@redboyjan]

You deserve it if you believe it. It's tiktok bs for tiktok divs. That's what tiktok is for

[@claireeyles7560]

I used to be a really nervous flyer, like struggled to get on a plane without taking something to calm me down level of nervous flyer. Then I started watching, of all things, Air Crash Investigation. There were so many things I learnt from that show, and other things I really just needed reiterated to me, that it basically ended up curing me of flight nerves completely. So I totally agree that good knowledge is helpful (as is calling out bad information).

[@ChibiPanda8888]

That is a really good show. They would show it to us in class at the aircraft mechanic school I went to. Especially if the subject we were talking about was what an episode covered (such as human factors), or if we had time to kill after a test or something. It was very informative and also strangely entertaining.

[@michelebouvet8074]

Responsible and true clear info refuting irisponsible, untrue and unclear info. Way to go kelsey. THANKYOU!

[@Maderyne]

I really appreciate these video responses! I'm glad you highlight the "miss-information" (bullshit) others put on the web. Keep doing this Kelsey, you help clear the air!

[@virginiaorganbuilder]

Keep fighting ignorance, Kelsey! You're the best!

[@gversluis]

Thanks again Kelsey! I had a pretty hard landing just once; an Iberia A320 at Amsterdam landing as if the pilot wanted to go through the tarmac, not just land on it. That was followed by slamming on the brakes and vacating the runway nearly banking over. A friend later explained that they probably had a "heavy" right behind them, and considering the normal separation at Amsterdam I wouldn't be surprised if that was exactly what happened... and hey, any landing you can walk away from is a successful one :)

[@74gear]

well its most likely they just had a bad landing, it happens to everyone sometimes... I don't worry about the planes behind me until I am on the ground.

[@kenbrown2808]

the second half of that is "any landing where you can reuse the airplane is a great one"

[@johnfletcher3486]

I wish Kelsey would do a video on “What is the Tarmac”. I cannot find the term in any FAA literature.

[@kenbrown2808]

@@johnfletcher3486 serious question? tarmac is a particular type of asphalt, which has come to be a catchall term for a runway surface, kind of like kleenex is a catchall term for face tissue.

[@cockatoo010]

Nah, that's a standard Iberia A320 landing. Have experienced them in various airports and it's always like that The 2 A340 landings I had with them were absolute b u t t e r

[@paulinecharlat2982]

3:20 I have heard one capation where a pilot in a commercial plane say 'we're gone to die' (more 'too late') it's the crash of the concorde. The pilot say that when he fill the plane rotate and lose altitude because he lose a wing. He say that to the controller not the passenger PS: I hope it's understandable, i'm french

[@mikes-b6009]

There is a psychological concept called the Dunning-Kruger Effect where the less somebody knows something the more they think they know. The TikToker you were focusing in the video clearly is affected by the D-K effect. Social media if full of people with apparent ‘knowledge’ but in reality know absolutely nothing about what they are talking about. Kelsey you do a fantastic job of trying to dispel the myths and correct misinformation and I thank you for that.

[@bodazaphfa]

These Tik Toks are mind-numbing. Your videos are great, though.

[@axysdnyd]

Absolutely love your videos Kelsey. I have far less fear of flying now than I had years ago thanks to watching your informative videos done by an actual pilot who knows what they're talking about. I'm still not big on flying but I'm no longer absolutely terrified of it. I do love aviation and its importance to the furthering of mankind cannot be understated by any means. Keep up these totally awesome videos!!!!

[@sweetroscoeful]

One of the more amazing stories of an aviator flying right up to the moment of impact was that of the space shuttle challenger. We often think they perished in the explosion....when in reality, the evidence shows Astronaut Michael J. Smith was still trying to restore power and likely was attempting to fly the doomed Space Shuttle to the point of impact.

[@nomadicnative2444]

I remember when that happened. So tragic😢

[@ac9110]

Excellent as usual. These are a real treat, a mixture of serious fact and light heartedness. Thanks for making them Kelsey.

[@fantomphalcon9153]

Great video Kelsey - hope you’re enjoying 2022! Of most of the CVR transcripts I’ve read that resulted in a hull right-off, the pilots fight to the bitter end with consummate professionalism, not screaming like the passengers may be behind them. They fight despite the futility and impending crash and they do it so calmly sometimes it’s truly humbling to read what they’re saying, if anything. They fly to avoid collateral damage on the ground, and often their lives are amongst those lost in the valiant attempts to save everyone including themselves. There are many cases where passengers have survived but the aircrew don’t - the only ones where I’ve listened to pilots screaming is when has messed up and he’s apologising to his co-pilot for essentially sealing their fate - other than that there’s the occasional ‘goodbye mum’ or ‘I love my wife and kids’ - these are public access transcripts, maybe people should read some - you’ll feel a lot better about just how professional, calm and focussed pilots can be right up until impact. You’d love to have Kelsey flying you, I’m certain he’d be terrified, but he’d do everything within the powers of all the crew up there to get that beast safely down - after all, he’s got a free breakfast to look forward to after his well-earned sleep from a hard day’s flying, he’s not gonna want to spoil his looks on some jagged rocks and aluminium, that’s painful, not to mention a major inconvenience to the rest of the day, year, or eternity - it’s the last thing on his mind right after Fly, Navigate, and Communicate. You must be well on your way to 4 stripes in terms of hours flown by now - will you continue the channel, or stay at 3 stripes where you’ll have more time? You’d make a good Capt. in my humble opinion as a British motorist 👍

[@ChibiPanda8888]

They do indeed fight tooth and nail to keep everyone safe and get that plane on the ground safely with the least damage possible. It is indeed heartbreaking to read or hear the transcripts of it or to even see it dramatized in shows like Mayday Air Crash Investigations.

[@philipstaite4775]

The really impressive thing about Kelsey's videos like this (other than their information content) is that he manages to keep a straight face in the face of so much comically incorrect information. Come on Kelsey, 'fess up. How many times do you just burst out laughing at some of this ... ah ... "stuff" from TikTok before you can get through making one of your videos? I'm thinking double-digit takes ... ;-)

[@StortWeldingCoLLC]

Philip Staite, LIKE TAKE 117 TIMES!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jacquelinejacobson6789]

Great motivational video for passengers terrified of flying. They should all watch this video

[@nadernowzadi1]

OMG, I looked at a few of her TikTok posts. She is totally full of crap about pretty much everything. Hard to believe over a million follow and look at her crap. You on the other hand Kelsey, great job as always. Thank you 🙏

[@redboyjan]

A million morons. Round em up, sterilise em

[@lilithlunaire8888]

About fighting until the end… what you said Kelsey reminded me of Alaska Flight 261 😞 The pilots kept flying even when they were inverted… never gave up

[@rkss27]

Iv been watching your videos for years. Keep it up, one of my favorite channels to watch when I have time off (as rare as that is). Always wanted to be a pilot but never worked out, not even private pilot :( my simulator is all I have. All the best to you! Keep up the great work.

[@PhoenixShin]

When I think of a body ripping apart from explosive decompression I think of the saturation divers when they didn't seal the hatch before opening the next area but that's mostly because the nitrogen in the body that was absorbed from breathing compressed air for so long under pressure. You aren't breathing compressed air on the ground (or at least I don't think you would be) so you wouldn't explode at a sudden pressure change. But that's also why they tell divers not to fly right after diving for at least 24 hours or more.

[@unropednope4644]

If your referring to the Byford dolphin incident, in that incident none of three drivers were "ripped apart" from the explosive decompression. Three of the divers died after their blood boiled instantly and their hearts stopped, but their bodies were perfectly intact. The fourth diver though was gruesomely dismembered and mutilated after his body was forcibly pushed through a 24 inch opening by the escaping air. Bodies dont explode from explosive decompression.

[@PhoenixShin]

@@unropednope4644 ah that was it. But expanding nitrogen bubbles could make your lungs explode in a sense when coming up too fast

[@prspastor]

Appreciate your expertise in a world that seems to want to abandon expertise. Thank you Kelsey!

[@Taistelukalkkuna]

Next on TikTok: "Life is dangerous. 100% who experience it die."

[@mar.h.9288]

Thank you Kelsie! I was always scared a couple of days before flying to a other country. But since I have been watching your Videos with all your explainations I feel a lot More comfortable Before and during a flight. Last Time Even my best Friend was Wondering why I am quite relaxed sitting next to him on a plane before take off. I cloud say: I know a bit how it works now, it is ok for me. Thats because of your videos, thank you. (Sorry for my english, Iam from Germany and Not an native speaker :) )

[@AnimationGoneWrong]

Kelsey, thank you for showing the world what a bunch of uneducated dolts these TikTok idiots are. Knowledge is POWER! Nice to see comments from people that have actually benefited from videos like yours. ❤

[@stighald]

I feel weird watching these. First of all thank you for combating the misinformation, annoying that you have to. These people are the epitome of the Dunning Kruger effect. They say something that is almost true and then nosedived into being wrong. Like the hypoxia thing, she is probably thinking that the plane rapidly descending is the cause instead of thinking that is the thing that will prevent it. And holy moly I dislike people spouting things they know nothing about. And I really dislike the fact that they earn money from naive people watching.

[@AuralayKristine]

I'm a very nervous flyer who also really loves planes (go figure LOL) and your videos help me so much!

[@74gear]

thats great Laura, glad you are feeling better in the air!

[@Zaephrax]

If there is one thing I have learned from the internet, its that planes are really good for the environment, because every time they have an explosive decompression they can generate a lot of paper, and therefore save the trees

[@ironwood4645]

I did some research and the change of a fatal accident for planes is around 1 in 9,800 and for a cars it is 1 in 115. I feel safer in the air then i do in a car, especially today. Driving skills seem to be worse since Covid or maybe it just that there are more morans on the road right now.

[@savinojones4180]

Great channel, just found it, watched a bunch. Great Information, love how you present all the information and comment. Not a pilot, flown with buddies in small aircraft and loved it. Keep it up, you're great at doing this channel.

[@abetacc]

didnt know fighter/acrobatic/etc pilots constantly shattered all their bones and destroyed their organs during maneuvers

[@scyz2807]

There is no such thing as acrobatics in an aircraft. With aircraft it's called aerobatics. : - )

[@abetacc]

@@scyz2807 lol, whoops

[@tookitogo]

Well, the g-forces experienced by acrobats are likely more extreme than those experienced by aerobatics pilots, so yeah, by Jade logic the acrobats would also be pulverized to mush by the end of a session!

[@alext.7313]

Thank you for continuing to right the wrongs of TikTok, Kelsey! Some might find it interesting; Destin from the yt channel Smarter Everyday did an cool video about hypoxia when he was touring NASA. Might be interesting to see some of the science behind it and what it actually looks like.

[@gjchawks17]

"I've never read in any report that I've ever seen, I've never read where the pilots have something go wrong and they just go 'that's it, we're going to die no big deal'..." Man I can't wait until you get to read the Trevor Jacob crash report when they release it.

[@craigybhoy978]

0 research 0 knowledge 100% tiktok scaremongering

[@wwiiguy]

You deserve 1M subscribers. Even with 825K subscribers, you are underrated. You deserve more. You have helped people in so many ways that you may not even know. Keep up the good work.

[@saferoundhouse5910]

I'm afraid of flying and was thinking about taking pills before I get on a plane but then got anxious about not being awake/able to react fast enough in case of an emergency. It is incredibly relieving to hear that I probably won't die if I don't get the mask on right away, I did not know that. Thanks for setting things right :)

[@sallystandish7105]

“When an idiot starts making tik tok content, it still raises the platform’s collective iq”

[@redboyjan]

By 5

[@adde9506]

Gotta love when she just randomly throws in the word boiling. That's how to convince people you know what you're talking about, use basic words incorrectly.

[@Fuzy2K]

I didn't know that pressure differences were a liquid! It's so *obvious* now! 😆

[@28ebdh3udnav]

Rule number one of every pilot. #1. Fly the plane. That's your priority. Put everything aside. For example. Alaska Airlines crash of 2000 and the Boeing 747 Crash in Amsterdam crashed into an apartment building and also, the 2006 mid air accident where a business jet cut off the left wing portion of a Boeing 737 jet where the caption kept saying "Calm calm" to the first officer until they crashed. I respect captains and first officers for their professionalism.

[@gabrieldavies-clark6628]

Thanks for doing this video Kelsey. I had always wanted to be a commercial pilot but due to me screwing up my life I couldn’t. But fast forward a decade and I’m all clean and stuff now but have this complete irrational fear of flying, I have done many flights in my life as a kid but the last time I flew was as a teenager moving to Australia. It’s really hard now cause my family constantly go back to see our family/friends but my fear (and the price of tickets to the uk 🤣) has stopped me from being able. Glad you did this video cause I was able to rationalise things a bit better. Love planes, fly Rc, build models, flight simulator ect but I’m still terrified to be on one 🤣

[@theejectionsite1038]

That is truly one of the most incorrect videos I've ever heard about aviation! Thanks for the corrections. As John Paul Stapp proved on a rocket sled the human body can take amazing amounts of force without breaking bones. He hit the water brake on the sled track at 46.2 G eyeball out and survived with no residual effects thanks to proper restraints. 12G is less than you probably see in many extreme sports wipeouts. Decompression is another major misrepresentation too! Major William Rankin ejected from an F-8 Crusader over a thunderstorm at 45,000 feet and although he experienced much pain an discomfort he was not torn apart. One thing to understand about that too is that decompression speed is proportional to the volume of pressurized space compared to the size of the pressure exit (the hole) and the pressure differential. In his case he had a couple cubic yards of air in his cockpit and the 'hole' was the loss of canopy which was about 20% of the volume enclosure so it was nearly instantaneous. In an airliner you have hundreds of cubic yards of volume and in most cases a decompression would occur due to the loss of at most a few square yard (loss of cargo door for example). The book/movie 'Mayday' involved a Concord like aircraft that decompresses due to a missile flying in one side and out the other causing two holes about a yard across each. I did the math based on a formula from a USAF training manual and found that the authors (Nelson deMille and Thomas Block) must have used the same formula. The descent to 10,000 feet for pressure equalization was about ten minutes as I recall. The plane was over 40,000 ft I believe. The air pressure inside the plane and outside would have taken about ten minutes to reach that equilibrium. This means though that due to the pressure inside you can get localized wind speeds that are very high near the hole, but that is another story!

[@pierre-mariecaulliez6285]

Fun fact, the worst depressurization you can experience is outter space, scientists have modeled what would happen and, surprise ! People don't pop like balloons ! they get insta-mumified Also, I do believe that John Paul Stapp DID suffer permanent loss of 1 or 2 tenth to his vision on both eyes...

[@anamoscat9083]

She's the one afraid of flying and wants everybody to be the same.🤣🤣🤣

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

yes! insulting teens that think they have all the knowledge in the world i love this series XD

[@PLZENg]

I love seen some teens that dont even browse or try to know more about it

[@74gear]

tiktokers have seemed to slow down making the fake news after that first one went viral, I guess they didn't like that feeling... of being presented facts haha

[@pikekeke]

@@74gear These people have always existed. People just make shit up attention and sensation. It's the same kind of people who made up pre-internet gossip that slowly made its way round the world. Like the Marilyn Manson rib thing. Just now they have a more easily accessible way to spread their nonsense than recess of your high school.

[@tomtregenna]

Thank you, Kelsey, you must be one one the most switched on pilot in the business, very interesting

[@2ManyGoats]

I love how people will repeat what they THINK is correct without ever looking at a single source, and deliver it like they're an expert