Plastic Surgeon Reveals the REAL TRUTH about Morpheus 8

[@jo7956]

My experience: I’m 66 yrs old, half Asian w/ pretty good skin. I bought a pkg of 3 Morpheus 8 treatments to help w/ sagging on lower face & neck. I made it through 2 sessions. Aesthetician used numbing cream, did 3 passes over each section. By the 3rd pass, tears were automatically streaming. I have high threshold for pain, so it was surprising. It felt like hypodermic needle followed by electric shock. Terrible! For the cost & pain, results were minimal. Dr. Karam is right: nothing takes the place of vertical facelift. So that’s what I’m saving for now. I’ll continue to do Clear & Brilliant laser to treat sunspots & surface damage….but anything deeper needs surgery. Good luck ladies! (Pls. read comments below for more info on my experience:)

[@SomaYogaSpectrum]

Wow 3 passes is a lot! Usually it's not the device, it's the technician. When I had it done it was only 1 pass. I always apply numbing cream myself because they don't usually leave it on as long. I need at 30 mins to one hour for the numbing cream to work.

[@jo7956]

@@SomaYogaSpectrum Yes, they allowed 35-40 min. for numbing cream to set in. I think by the 3rd pass, it’s worn off. I was told just one pass wasn’t sufficient to do any good. Too weak. Hope you had better results?

[@dramirkaram]

Sorry for that experience! Thank you for watching and commenting:)

[@sherigibbs8630]

I think the problem is everyone would like to have a vertical restore, but can't afford 50,000 dollars. Why not lower your prices? I am sure you could if you wanted to do so. You are obviously at the top of your game so why not be big hearted and let someone get a reasonably priced facelift.

[@miamilifeandfitness]

Very good point. This procedure cannot be compared to a facelift. Nothing can and Shouldn’t be compared with a facelift. Period. This here is simply to recharge the skin and it’s under layer-maybe similar to what you get with Tretinoin, for example. But an actual fact lift- lifts, and everything under skin is repositioned-the muscle and the fat pads. How in the world can anyone compare this M8 to a facelift?? I’ve done both! People are delusional thinking the M8 treatment is alternative! 🙄

[@NinaTakesh]

I used Morpheus twice and whole heartedly regret it, as it created permanent marks on my face and cheeks. Additionally, it made my melasma much worse and no one warned me. Thank you for your video and shedding light on this.

[@sil.ml.6508]

I also got permanent marks and face fat loss.

[@smskinner1001]

This could be down to the provider, you can have a great machine and a bad operator = bad results, or even not a good candidate so many clinics will just take your money and do the treatment even if they know it wont do anything for you

[@dramirkaram]

Ahh so sorry to hear that. Thank you for sharing your experience.

[@isaackent2355]

You still look fantastic .

[@karmaalm8451]

​@@dramirkaram hi doc what are the procedures a 30's year with good skin could do for collagen and keep the thickness of the face??

[@playwitjay24]

Im in my early 40s, had both ultherapy and morpheus8, loved the results and experiences. Its all subjective depending on age, life style, concerns and desired results. I was taken care of wonderfully both times, Yes there were some discomforts, and there would have been some with surgery as well. Avoiding surgery, scar tissue and looking fake are my priorities… which Ive decided to start the non invasive route as early as possible… i also dont drink, dont smoke, work out 4-5 times a week, vegetarian and drink lots of water. Priority is being healthy mentally and physically… the beautification part is a gift, not a co dependent. As our bodies will continue to change but it can do so with grace.

[@MilaJo-vr8zn]

Well said

[@pallavisreetambraparni6995]

Okay

[@KingBrokenCode]

Yes, very well said. Thank you also because I am same age and lifestyle and am definitely not looking to have plastic surgery on my face! That seems so extreme, expensive, and neurotic. These minimally invasive procedures give us the power to help ourselves age slower, help us stick to our healthy lifestyles because were paying some money and going through some discomfort and want results, but do not make us so obsessive about aging. I want to look good for my age, not 10 yrs younger. Which btw facelifts dont make you look younger, they make you look desperate.

[@andrea82713]

Yes, very accurate. But preventing is the best way for any age and Holistic Approach and also Invasive Aesthetic is a team work and Plastic Surgery Doctors have this idea that doesn't work in harmony and balance. Everybody already see a lot Celebrities looking a puppy completely different!? And they continue to do the treatments and they accept!? Fillers you have to prevent and do Brazilian Lymphatic Drainage Facial to maximize the treatment and also detox , flush all the chemical and have a long pause and then do it again. The mindset is only focus in one thing and threaten work of Cosmetologist and Plastic Surgery Doctors and a lot clinics around the world already have a balance and integrative medicine with both!!!

[@damolaalabi8211]

Exactly!! Very well said,no matter what we do..how bodies and face will continue to change as we age..aging gracefully and being healthy should be the ultimate goal.

[@MonaGarcea-w7i]

Mid 40s, had 2 sessions of Morpheus and the results are great! I'm a few years away from vertical restore and personally, I don't think waiting until surgery is the solution. Just like great skincare, IPLs and other in-office treatments, Morpheus is an added benefit to postpone an 50K+ surgery!!! And as others mentioned, only get it done by a doctor/plastic surgeon as to not melt the fat or create other skin damage. I will definitely be going to Dr K in the future but suggesting a surgery most people will never afford as a valid option compared to a $1400 treatment which, in my opinion, truly makes a significant difference while still in your 40s is a bit silly. I'm sure we'd all choose the surgery if we could :)

[@marianaotero28]

Yep his surgeries are all in the 100k + range after all costs so to give that as the only viable option is giving people absolutely zero hope that they can improve their situation.

[@dammar117]

Zero hope, but realistic.

[@marianaotero28]

@dam mar 100k+ even for just an under eye blepharoplasty and or fat transfer is definitely not realistic for most people today. 15k maybe. These surgeries he performs are only attainable for less than 1% of womans. Millionaires really.

[@GoldienOC]

My experience as well. I do not regret it. I guess we had professionals at the helm.I can't believe all the negative comments ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@MattPearcey-ws8zx]

Same here. Had 2 M8 treatments. Looks great. I researched the practitioners first. Made sure it was done under someone who was trained in cosmetic dermatology and the M8 machine. it is always about the practitioner. Matt. 52. male . Fixed sagging and wrinkling in face.

[@dddloveit]

There is a silent war going on between Plastic Surgeon, Dermatologist and Nurses because Dermatologist and Nurses owns med spas and can only non surgical. All this RF tightening devices they swear by this procedures. We consumers deserve to know the truth.

[@yorocco1]

😂😂😂 And a surgeons knife is what? Non-invasive? Wake up. They are going to push whatever treatment, procedure, etc., that they make money on. Period.

[@wellingtoncarvalho8734]

E nenhum efeito com eficiência!!!! Só puro marketing......

[@ositoguy]

I know people that ended up with a very skinny face from Morpheus8, worst than having wrinkles, but no one is talking about,

[@estefaniaboujon6830]

​@@ositoguymmmm I have done it two weeks ago and have the sencond treatment in a month, now im scared😥

[@ositoguy]

@@estefaniaboujon6830 you should be fine but maybe don't do the next treatment

[@deborahvaughan9388]

Too many don't understand it's a muscle issue, not a skin issue. Very informative!

[@dramirkaram]

Exactly, glad you found it useful.

[@miamilifeandfitness]

Very true

[@whosyourdaddy4579]

The "fascia" actually.

[@avawatson4494]

If so then do face exercises, and yes they do work.

[@UrsaBella]

muscle, connective tissue, fat, bone issue...

[@valentinabianco]

I did Morpheus 8 but just as a treatment for little improvement.The result are subtle but personally my skin was perfectly healed 2 days after it.Said that I think the real problem with Antiaging cosmetic procedures is that normal people can not afford a facelift of any type.I think this type of conversation should be a little be more realistic.Possibly facelift are better than other non invasive treatments but they are really expensive. Facelift are one of the the most costly cosmetic procedures and ,most people can just not afford it and that is why alternative is a claim used to sell Morpheus 8 or anything else.

[@socallawrence]

Insta, gorgeous ?

[@riobrasilsambashowssambist1453]

Of course and while he is saying that it doesn't replace a facelift, his facelift cost $100k

[@pamelatify]

My Morpheus 8 experience was SHOCKINGLY painful and sent electric shock waves that made my arms twitch and flail. No one told that RF treatment was the same as an electric shock and I was totally unprepared for that. They put numbing cream on my face and neck, but not around the edges so when they treated the areas that weren’t numb it felt like I was being stung, shocked and burned all at once. I had my face, neck and upper arms treated. My arms flopped and jolted uncontrollably with every zap. It reminded my of Dr. Frankenstein shock monster machine-I was terrified. I was kind of in shock and had to drive myself home. I was in pain for several days and quite sick. I was not prepared for that level of recovery. I literally thought I would be able to go back to my office afterwards. That’s what they told me! I’m 58 years old and I have had several major cosmetic surgeries that were less traumatic! If they had properly prepared me for the level of pain, the recovery time, etc, I would have handled it batter. Now I only see an MD even for just botox- no more aestheticians or injectors. Be careful!

[@dramirkaram]

Thank you for sharing!

[@AA-ct7cb]

❤️

[@maryzwierecki5646]

I just had it and found it to be traumatic. I have had severe swelling that had lasted 4 days so far. My face actually swelled so much my facial features were distorted.

[@pamelatify]

@@maryzwierecki5646 That’s awful. Did you know before you had the treatment that this was a possibility? I sure didn’t.

[@debras9020]

Last fall I had M8 on my neck only. It was excruciating! I ended up calling and letting them know I would NOT be getting the next two sessions.

[@TrinityMorningstar]

I’m 30 years old and I got Morpheus8 done. It melted all my facial fat, left me with hollowed out eyes, cheek indents and a drooping looking face. I had to get fillers to fix it cause I can’t afford a face lift. I’m devastated by this. 😢

[@donlepard7614]

They went too deep.

[@TrinityMorningstar]

@@donlepard7614 yes. Actually what happened is. She did the deeper parts first and she did it so fast she didn’t allow the machine to switch settings.

[@charlottemoore9467]

I would never recommend Morpheus 8 if you have a thin face, it will literally hollow out your face and destroy it so for those with a thin face, give it up

[@patriciaR004]

I've hear a few people with the same issue. Does that mean morpheus8 main function is melting fat? How does that help with tightening, I was thinking of getting it for my droopy neck after weight loss, but now I'm not too sure it's worth it.

[@TrinityMorningstar]

@@patriciaR004 honestly I really don’t recommend it at all. The results aren’t worth the risk. I’m in my 30s. I’ve always looked extremely young for my age. Now I HAVE to get filler in my face until I can get a face life.

[@cinthyamena9850]

I’m 38 years old and did my 4th Morpheus8 treatment today. I look like I’m in my mid 20’s and started with Morpheus8 a year ago. Couldn’t be happier with the results. Start taking care of your skin early!! It’s the only way to prevent aging and the most natural way. Btw people, I work as a surgical assistant so work with more than 20+ plastic surgeons. One of them recommended Morpheus to me after inquiring about skin care for my age range.

[@wulfsorenson8859]

Sorry sweetie but you look your age 🫠

[@JB-3794]

Still, with all your great skin care, you will find that your whole face will lower itself in time. It's good to stay out of the sun, not smoke or drink to excess, etc. But we can't ever remain looking like a 30 year old.

[@cinthyamena9850]

@@JB-3794 truth is, my skin has never ever been this healthy

[@gsika2459]

I also just had my 4th treatment yesterday. I have loved it every single time. I'm 34, and my skin transformation has been incredible. I also take care of my body very well. Morpheus8 enhanced that even more. I'm not sure why there are so many bad reviews.

[@wulfsorenson8859]

@@gsika2459 maybe you got unlucky and because you’re only 34 so only had minimal signs of ageing and skin laxity.

[@theresamcdonald-smith5046]

I have had 3 treatments of Morpheus. Definitely seeing improvement in skin tightening along lower face and neck. It’s only been since January. Stacking with BBLs, Nano laser and micro laser. Skin quality also definitely improving. You must find the right practitioner. That is key.

[@louiseheinonen7333]

I agree with Dr.K as I have personally experience the Ultherapy has damaged my skin and created more lose skin the tightening it. I am saving my money so I could do a face lift when I turn 56 so I have 4years to go😍😍😍

[@MattPearcey-ws8zx]

Well stated. Agreed. M8 successful treatments here too. I posted the details in a thread above.

[@IronAngelsFitClub]

Yes agree! It’s all about the practitioner.

[@definedvisage]

So let me understand your experience, you got Morpheus8 done and are combining multiple treatments on top of that and you are only seeing your skin barely improving? Yeah your comment proves his point.

[@theresamcdonald-smith5046]

@@definedvisage more than barely improving. And we shall see how much better as the collagen production improves, which it does continue doing after the treatments. I prefer not to go under the knife. Your practioner makes all the difference. There are bad plastic surgeons as well, and a plastic surgeon definitely doesn’t benefit from a non-surgical treatment being beneficial.

[@tamarahutchins6239]

Thank you so much for your honesty! I tried Venus Viva three times and saw absolutely no difference. Wasted a nice little chunk of change. I did buy a Newa radiofrequency device for home and see nice temporary results for the price of one treatment in the cosmetic surgeon's office. I am an acupuncturist who specializes in facial rejuvenation acupuncture and believe that these treatments have kept my skin younger looking, taught and healthy looking. I believe that my skin, as well as all of my patients' skin will be more resilient for when the time comes to do a deep plane lift some day. And when I do, I'm going to you, because your work is incredible, and your integrity is good energy. Thank you, Doctor!

[@tateandemmy]

Ive had the Morpheus 8 done on face/neck three time this year starting in 4/2023 last one done in 6/2023. Love it, my recipe for no pain is numbing cream/Pronox💤. If the office your having the Morpheus 8 will not give you these two pain relievers, RUN! I'm a 55 year old man, fair skin and had pinkish tones skin for one hour afterwards. I had a deep chicken pox scar disappear the first session. I live in Cleveland Ohio, cost was around $3000.00 for 3 treatment packaged.

[@RedbarClothing]

I’m heading to Solon for it but I’m nervous now

[@lisahirsch3084]

Yay Cleveland

[@ellad-x7e]

Can you share which place you went to? Thx

[@monicahernandez9989]

At the end of day, he's looking out for his bottom line. He's a surgeon ppl! 😄 I'm in my mid 40s and Morpheus8 made a significant difference with just one treatment. I'll definitely wait till fall or winter to do the rest of the treatments when it's not so hot. If you're thinking about doing it find a doctor or nurse who are truly experienced with it. Heads up! It's a painful procedure, even with the numbing cream. My nurse used lydocaine and that was extremely helpful. With that said, Morpheus8 is not for everyone, just like surgical procedures are not for everyone, look at Madonna. However, on the right hands you'll look and feel great! Good luck.

[@anitamariew]

Have it done with the numbing cream and with the laughing gas during the procedure. You'll feel nothing . Can't imagine doing this procedure without it.

[@lovepet4565]

I like the result Ask for Xanax rx to take for procedure Really helped

[@nicoleacker3617]

Same! Had it, love the results! Jowls are gone! I think blending services between disciplines with experience conservative providers is the way to go. I would 100% do it again!

[@Bluebirdhouse]

I had 4 sessions of Morpheus8 sessions with incredible results. I did a 3-hour numb before each session, where I literally could not feel my face. Pain was a non- issue. I’m also 66 and love my results.

[@thomaskreisel5764]

Exactly! Facelifts make your wrinkles go away, but it also makes you look non natural and your face loses its personality. You just start looking a bit like a different person. I think facelifts are horrible.

[@geotj3044]

I used Morpheus 8 for acne scarring at 38 years old. Did the procedure at a plastic surgeon’s office to be sure I’d get expected results. My experience was that it deflated the ample baby fat in my cheeks and led me to have to use Sculptra to attempt a correction. I would have never done the Morpheus 8 if I would have known I’d lose facial fat.

[@martinamajstorovic2424]

From your experience, what treatment would you recommend for acne scarring?

[@nilamshah985]

Fraxel dual restore, tca cross, punch excision and subscision and sculptra

[@nilamshah985]

Retinaldehyde and calecim professional cream and rolling at home

[@BrookT]

Same. It didn’t help me and then I needed sculptra

[@geotj3044]

@@martinamajstorovic2424 I honestly feel I’ve gotten the most help from IPL, light chemical peels, and micro needling w PRP. I also use retinol daily. I would take the scars over what happened w Morpheus8.

[@ineser]

Thank you so much for this information Dr. I am an esthetician and I cannot stress enough to my clients that the only way to restructure and lift a face is a facelift. I have seen terrible thread lifts, fillers that go wrong, damaged skin after a laser procedures etc. It's just not worth it, save money if you have to, take care of your skin meanwhile as much as you can and than just get a facelift in the hands of an experienced Dr.

[@kg-fw1rx]

You should do a PSA and make a video. There are people on youtube who are teaching people how to do the procedures. I used to follow someone and when I made a comment because I thought you're gonna harm someone she blocked me. An uneducated hasbeen actor making thousands passively at the expense of others health and safety. Thank you for sharing your expertise, and wisdom! The world needs more honest people like you in it.

[@chizzle04330]

I had 3 treatments and I 100% agree with your opinion. For me it was a PAINFULL waist of money, and I already had half decent skin. Save money for a face lift ladies!

[@rd7726]

You sound like maybe you didn't have a good provider with a knowledge in settings.

[@jeantttttt566]

I don’t think morpheus8 ever promised to replace a facelift procedure which is gold standard. It’s just an intermediary step before going under the knife. I view morpheus8 as medical grade skincare. I’m in my 40s have great skin I’m prob 10 yrs away from a facelift and I’m thrilled to have found something so effective.

[@dramirkaram]

There are many instances of Morpheus8 marketing as a noninvasive facelift option. www.rapdermbh.com/blog/morpheus8-the-amazing-non-surgical-facelift-everyone-is-raving-about

[@rd7726]

​@@dramirkaramIt still works to tighten in the right hands meaning a good provider. Most 40 year olds who have slight sagging aren't going to pay 30-50k for a face-lift.

[@andrea82713]

Also use a premium skincare, Advanced Facials and then you do it not so much because you're preventing. This is the best and intelligent mindset, I do skincare every day, Deep Cleanse Detox Facials... Already did fillers Hyaluronic Acid but preventing is the big foundation of the skin.

[@damolaalabi8211]

⁠@@rd7726people our age just don’t need facelifts period! I just turned 40 and only started using medical grade skincare,collagen banking and wearing sunscreen religiously 2yrs ago and literally nobody believes I’m 40! My skin looks great and years younger,I will continue to use non invasive lasers,facials,medical grade skincare,exercise,sleep well,eat healthy and drink lots of water until maybe I’m 60 before i consider surgery,if I have to.

[@elliegrady12]

My mom had a lower facelift for turkey neck and jowling. She looks amazing and loves it. Now my aunt, her sister, has decided to go with a full facelift. My only problem with Dr. Karam is he seems to push the vertical facelift over everything, even a regular facelift, which is super expensive. Most people can't afford him so I'm not sure just how credible his comments are on non-surgical procedures.

[@KOKOAXXXable]

Thanx. I too felt the good doctor is pushing the vertical restore n rubbishing evrything else. 😅

[@dagnytaggart2027]

Yes, he pushes vertical restore. But he talks a lot of truth about procedures, and about skincare routine and supplements. These advices and information are really good and we don't have to make vertical restore.

[@susangoodrich9157]

Ordinary people that care about their appearance should be able to afford Dr, Karam, vertical facelift. It should not only be for the wealthy.

[@kittenlittle2009]

I have major issues with Dr Karam’s messages . I bought his super expensive skin cream which is no different than my other less expensive products . I have used retin-a and vit c and micronneedling , Venus laser and I have to say I look the same at 59 as at least 10 yrs ago. My skin is awesome and just needs some minor tightening especially neck area. I inquired about his facelift which is 70, 000 dollars and he says save up for it 😮. 😂 for the rest of our lives .

[@dagnytaggart2027]

@kittenlittle2009 he is businessman like everyone else. He pushes his products as well as surgery.

[@peacenloveforall6]

And another thing, I had 5 things done during my facelift, and my healing was practically painless. In other words, the M8 was many times more painful than the facelift healing. And in case anyone is wondering, I had upper bleph, neck lift, facelift, chin implants on each side of my jawl area, and fat transfer.

[@aliciabelenbarragan9152]

Perdon la pregunta, pero de verdad me gustaria saber cuanto le $$$ costo, porque yo necesito hacerme eso mismo!!!!! Gracias!!

[@pamelatify]

Same here. I’ve had half a dozen cosmetic surgeries. They were all far less traumatic than the M8 that I had in a Med spa.

[@kkendrick68]

I had Morpheus done twice and just used the numbing cream. I didn’t find it that bad I guess it all depends on your tolerance.

[@lilarose9348]

Who did your surgery? I’m in NY

[@gillianhamilton2374]

Would you share pictures ( interested in chin implants on side , never heard of that )

[@LaAmeria]

I just did ablative CO2 and that made a huge improvement on my skin. When I was searching on KZbin I didn’t see too many recovery process so I started filming it myself. I definitely love the CO2, and opted out on the Morpheus8. Thanks for letting us know.

[@liviusss]

What kind of improvement did you see with the laser? Ablative sounds a bit scary, especially for a person with very sensitive skin... Does it involve a lot of downtime?

[@kathrynlouiseberman7919]

I had 2 ablative CO2 procedures, once in my face and neck for a surgery scar and once for burns on my hand. I didn't have much downtime at all, but you shouldn't wear makeup or get into the sun for several days. On my face and neck, the doctor gave me a Valium and numbing cream, but nothing masks the smell of burning flesh. That said, the results were beautiful. It took a few weeks to see max results, but one day I looked in the mirror and my face was glowing and baby smoothe. And you can't see my scar unless you REALLY look. It was the final step in healing for my hand. The hand surgeon completely sedated me for that procedure. Once again, the results are beautiful. It eliminated "roping" between my fingers, and the burned skin is soft and flexible. When having my consultation, the surgeon was surprised I not only knew the particulars of CO2 ablation, but also that I'd had it done on my face and neck. If I were ever to do a vertical restore type facelift, I would budget some money to have the ablative CO2 procedure about 2 months post healing to improve any scar appearance.

[@rowan3946]

I’ve done CO2 non ablative twice. Numbing cream and gruesome for 3 days, pink for 5. Skin is nice, but like the doc said, you don’t get a lift.

[@LaAmeria]

@@liviusss my skin is tighter, texture is impressively improved, can’t even see the acne scars I had, pores are improved. Legit looks like baby skin. Smooth is as best I can describe it. Also, you can see on my videos I’ve posted the recovery of it. It’s not that bad honestly. It’s only a couple of days of peeling and I was swollen for 3 days.

[@missceil]

Where did you get it done?? I’m interested in doing this too! Wouldn’t touch Morpheus

[@seguralc7709]

I’m 35 years old on my second treatment of M8. I’m loving my results so far, pain level 4/10.

[@infraredflower]

I’m curious what kinds of results you were going for. I am considering it for facial fat reduction.

[@kkendrick68]

Same! This is something you do after a facelift because it definitely doesn’t give you even close to those results

[@beatrizhernandez9961]

You are 35. Wow, and you are doing this? Life always charges us for our mistakes

[@sandraguerra9773]

I didn’t see any fat loss that people talk about. But I saw an improvement of fine lines, texture and my skin was tighter

[@catalanprincess]

The nurse who does my face was really selling her new morpheus 8....after reading up on it I saw that many had indentations in their skim or burns which ruined their faces and neck. I m so happy I did research and you just confirmed my misgivings. Thank you! 😊

[@theresamcdonald-smith5046]

You have to find someone that knows what they are doing! There should be no burns, markings, or indentations. My skin looks fabulous after 3 treatments, and continues to tighten as collagen production continues to increase. Of course, my girl is incredible!

[@MuseFitnessTV]

yes my neck skin Is terrible now - I had decent neck skin and now it looks like chicken skin - so upset - on top of the burns left on my face and traumatic pain

[@catalanprincess]

@MuseFitnessTV I m so sorry to hear this 😢, my heart goes out to you. Maybe you can use a light filler for your neck, I got some put in 2 weeks ago and it looks great.

[@nayabjafar8339]

Oh. Is prp microneedling safe?

[@socallawrence]

Had 3 Morpheus 8 sessions and love the results ! Age 41

[@carriel3054]

I had 3 rounds of M8 2 years ago at age 46. I wore the same white shirt for my before and after photo and the technician LITERALLY had to look at the date stamps to tell them apart. What. A. Waste. It was incredibly painful, I was left with ugly bruises for 2-3 weeks each time (luckily we still had mask mandates here) and I spent about $6K on this! That's about 1/4 the cost of a full facelift in my city!

[@romanaabo3664]

In Europe you can get a full facelift for 6k

[@SomaYogaSpectrum]

46 is very young and you probably didn't have a lot of sagging. I don't feel anyone under the age of 50 would need it.

[@carriel3054]

@@SomaYogaSpectrum Dr. Karam literally says in the video that for anyone 40s and up there would be no visible difference - it's not a procedure that works better on older faces.

[@dramirkaram]

So sorry to hear that! Thanks for sharing your experience. Glad I can help educate, share with your friends!

[@carriel3054]

@@dramirkaram thank you for frank and honest discussions about these procedures! I've referenced your channel numerous times in discussions with other women.

[@Jasapan-u4s]

Your work is wonderful and your shared wisdom is priceless. When I see your surgical results, I am in awe and also it saddens me and not because of reasons you may think. I am a hard working lady in a two income home and surgery is just out of our reach. I assume it is for a majority of your viewers. We see what can be done and yet we can’t fix it. Do you ever think the price for surgical approaches will ever become more affordable? I spend my money on Korean and European sunscreens, Tretinoin, AHA and BHA peels, peptides, and value brand ceramide moisturizer but that’s about what we can do. I’m not sure if you ever respond to comments but I’m hoping you can and will. Thanks again for your wisdom. BTW, I did Morpheus8 and I felt it was a definite waste of money. Sunscreen and Tretinoin is the key for skin for me. But yep, I’m definitely losing my supportive under structure.

[@debbyritchie2608]

Thank you for being so honest. I really cannot believe that everyone is going through such risky and painful procedures just trying to look like they are still young. If blessed we are all going to get old and at some point you kinda look ridiculous with all of the procedures. I'm not against whatever you want to do to your face or body, but I'd rather use the money and see the world or help someone. I just want to have healthy skin. So I try to take care of it the best I can.

[@dramirkaram]

Agreed. Thanks for the comment!

[@RG-bd5fy]

Very good perspective :)

[@racheli2598]

Agree, often we still know the true age of the person and I have a friend whose skin was badly burned and took about 3 months to heal and she still has scaring from microneedling. I’m curious if it was the Morpheus now. I need to ask her.

[@denissemedina4619]

Some young people like me with naturally little facial fat aren’t looking for a “facelift” but just looking to treat my acne scaring. I’ve tried multiple treatments and none have worked. The doctor that did my first session didn’t use the highest intensity so that I wouldn’t lose too much facial fat (I’m 25).

[@denisest.pierre3854]

Thank you for the truth! I had a facelift when I was 41. I'm so glad I did because I looked great for a long time. I'm 68, and no one would ever guess. I think because of my face lift I managed to have good jobs and work longer. I do IPL once in a while just to maintain pretty skin, but not for tightening. I don't use filler because who wants to look like Madonna??? I think it's time for another face lift and I am hopeful I can see you Dr. Karam!!!

[@dramirkaram]

This is exactly what I preach! So glad you've been happy with your decision to take early intervention.

[@Coco-og7zw]

What’s iPL?

[@alishaj1472]

Wow first face-lift at 41...

[@Mehwish-1986]

Hi beautiful! (Face lift) it’s the name of treatment or what place explain ❤️

[@kateclague6471]

41 😮

[@mamasharita1288]

I did three treatments of m8 and I got great results. Did not go deep though. Although it was painful. I feel it was worth it for me.

[@emilylee9894]

How old are you?

[@kcrl2002]

I can not afford you, but if I could, you are my 1st choice. Your message makes total sense, your videos are brilliant. The vertical procedure makes sense for me. I agree with not pumping the face with fillers and just getting fixed appropriately. Fantastic work Dr. I love watching your videos.

[@maryelizabeth7197]

Thank you!!! For being a realist and honest...so frustrating with this hype!! Your skin looks amazing... what do YOU do to stay looking so young?

[@irmaslager]

Great comprehensive video Dr Amir Karam, I love this channel. A question: is the losing fat issue specific to Morpheus 8 or is it valid for other RF microneedling techniques?

[@atesah]

how do you justify the pricing of the vertical restore? You are great at selling it and some of the results are gorgeous (although some of the realself reviews give a bigger picture about your bedside conduct and follow up with patients that didn’t get good results, which, if you are charging this exorbitant amount the whole process should be 5 star experience including thorough and caring follow up). It just boggles my mind that you charge THAT much and some of the stuff I’ve read on realself and reddit about Dr Karam… I really still think that the vertical restore can have beautiful results but the bonkers pricing and stuff I’ve read puts me off and makes me think that some plastic surgeons are getting hubris from being “KZbin famous” and become greedy

[@suzanneweiss4347]

Completely agree!

[@jeanettewaite5793]

How much does he charge for a deep plane face-lift please?

[@suzanneweiss4347]

@@jeanettewaite5793 between 50000 and 85000 plus

[@legendofbillyjean]

I’d rather go to South Korea or Turkey. There are plenty of great surgeons over there who don’t charge a king’s ransom for plastic surgery. It’s beyond ridiculous.

[@missceil]

I’m not defending poor bedside manner and know nothing about that but plastic surgeons charge a range of prices - anyone should expect highs and lows in pricing for ANY service I don’t know if you are from a small town or something but ESPECIALLY in big cities. I’m from Miami… some surgeons here charge the same… same in New York …

[@SomaYogaSpectrum]

Non surgical treatments work! It's cumulative though. I've been doing non-surgical treatments since my 30's. Starting with IPL, skin peels and Retin-A. Then radiofrequency, stem cell treatments and other things that increase collagen, like biostimulator fillers. I just had my first Morpheus8 treatment and it was a breeze. I did my research and used a plastic surgeon. It's often not the device, it's the person who can mess you up. (even surgeons can make people look awful. And that's NOT reversible. M8 won't give you immediate results but it will slow down the aging process. I'm 52 and people think I'm 35 because I've been taking good care of my skin. I understand that there may be a time when I need a facelift, but by then plastic surgeons might be out of a job, lol. Technology is getting more sophisticated! I don't feel anyone under the age of 45 needs Morpheus, just use good products and do non invasive treatments like biostimulators, Retin-A, eat healthy, etc.

[@dramirkaram]

Good job with early intervention

[@makeupnut21]

Ćouldnt agree more!

[@DC-sm3sr]

Hello, any chance your surgeon is in southern CA ? (For Morpheus) I’m 35 and considering it as a way to right a slightly aging face

[@SomaYogaSpectrum]

@@DC-sm3sr Hey! No I live in Mexico. At your age I would not spend the $ on Morpheus. Things I would do are: Retin-A (even the weakest retin-a is stronger than retinols). Do chemical peels, and start getting biostimulator fillers like Alanse or Radiesse once a year in your problem areas (these do not change the look of your face, what it does is slows down the aging process - research it). If you want to improve the texture of your skin you can do so many things, like just regular microneedling (you can do it at home...research for a good device). I also really really love microcurrent. It's temporary but wow it works for lifting! For things like rosacea and those pesky little red veins V-Beam laser is amazing, way better than IPL. I've had a "perma burn" on my chest and redness around my nose for years and the V-beam took it away. What is your issue exactly?

[@DC-sm3sr]

@@SomaYogaSpectrum Hello, thanks so much for the response. I am 35 and beginning to see facial fat on my lower face and a little hollowing under the eyes. My jawline has blurred out, and I have some unwanted fat under my chin. Not much, and I think losing 10 lbs will help after I give birth. Currently, 6 MO preg, but these were issues I wanted to target before. I also want smoother and tighter skin. I heard IPL is great for sunspots, so I will try and look at your recommendation too. But for skin tightness and brightness, I was considering Morpheus and/or PRF. Some other smaller experimental things I had on my radar were cryoskin (not coolsculpt) facial and Emface. One bigey I want to target is my undereye wrinkles. In terms of invasive, I was only considering MAYBE chin lip and fat transfer under the eyes and on my nasiofold which have begun to prop up. Again, I gained about 10-15 LBS over the past 5 years, so not great timing, but I would not say I am overweight at all. What do you think? Thanks again for the dialogue

[@apriljohnson1067]

Thank you for telling the truth- it’s fascia! Secondarily fat, not collagen and elastin that causes your face to drop. And for the record- retinol is an exfoliator. The best it can ever do is minimize fine lines and some don’t have as many anyway. It’s genetics + lifestyle. It doesn’t do any of the things that are claimed in the last few years. I’ve been on it over 30 years and I look a little better than my younger sister but I also have all of the issues I’d have otherwise. How can I tell you this? My background is in chemistry. The beauty industry never changes

[@sonianoir5766]

Wow. Yes. I intuitively new this 13 years ago…. I felt like the radio and ultrasound would compromise my subcutaneous fat layer. I am a thin woman. I researched (which verified) and I continued to question this. Finally only one doctor admitted to me that while the fat loss would be minimum, that these frequencies indeed would compromise it. He felt that Morpheus of all the technologies was as least the lesser culprit. Perhaps because the depth could be more regulated? The industry as well as doctors always pushed these modalities on me and everyone. I did a bit of exelis on my neck and around my eyes. Big mistake. I see many women begin to look gaunt. I have indeed put minimal and artistic amounts of FILLER in my face over the years with much success. So I disagree with you there. BUT I AGREE AND AM GRATEFUL FOR ALL OF YOUR OTHER SENSIBILITIES! Thank you!

[@IronAngelsFitClub]

I’ve had morpheus8 done by a plastic surgeon (after a less than satisfactory session with an aesthetician who did not do enough passes or deep enough) and have significantly improved old acne scars, smoother skin and a slight bit of tightening. It is very painful and I asked for nerve block after the first session. It’s a tool and it’s more important the skill of the provider. I’m sure my skin is thicker now because of collagen. I’m 62 and have done it over the last 2 years. I’m a bit unique in that I’ve been a bodybuilding competitor for over a decade and eat very clean and have had a very healthy fitness lifestyle so I probably look 7 to 10 years younger anyway. I’m planning facelift but life has delayed it a bit and having good skin should make my results even better.

[@Narcotic_Venus]

Please do you know what depth she uses and what level of heat? I want this procedure!

[@angelinimartini]

Did you by any chance get stretch marks in bodybuilding?

[@michelleghilotti252]

Did you get it done on your face or body? How painful was it for you? Did it make your face more thin looking??

[@loeserlegal]

Boy, did this video ever come at the right time. Was on the brink of scheduling this (I’m 69) -after watching this, I think I’ll pass. Thanks for the honesty.

[@dramirkaram]

Great timing. We just posted this video today, meant to be? haha Best of luck

[@kellymills3636]

Same here.

[@kellysilva47]

Me too. After this video, I gave up! Thanks so much!

[@bethdillaha7518]

I'm 66. What works for a 40 year old is not what works for a 66 or 69 year old!

[@hennahannnah]

I had a Morpheus 8 treatment with good numbing but turned done the laughing gas option. The treatment reminded me of a staple gun being used on my face. I couldn’t get the idea out of my head and felt foolish for selecting such a procedure and paying $1200 for it. I didn’t see any change, but realize that multiple treatments may have been more effective. At 67, I acknowledge that the results I was hoping for may have been more than the treatment could deliver.

[@artsqueenbeee]

How many treatments did you have?

[@hannan5781]

I got a Morpheus 8 treatment on my neck a few months ago, and I deeply regret it. I asked the provider beforehand if she would be careful not to go too deep, and she waved off my concerns. I felt wary but ignored my instinct to leave. Now I have scarring. I don’t really know where to start with repairing the damage.

[@dramirkaram]

I am sorry you had this experience! Thank you for sharing. There are a lot of people in this comments who have had similar experiences, great place to come together!

[@Sky10811]

sunscreen and moisturiser at least 1 year daily since you got scars

[@hannan5781]

@@Sky10811 definitely, that’s a given! I wear sunscreen every day, including on neck, and reapply throughout the day

[@davidgrinnell2740]

This is heavily spun. Just look at the first face lift photo, at 10:13, in the after photo the patient has lip stick on, fuller eye lashes, fuller eyebrows, different skin tone and different colour eyes!!! No attempt has been made to perform a comparble before and after photo. If you're happy to manipulate photographs then you can show any effect. If someone's happy to mislead people in that way then then it's difficult to have confidence in anything else they've said.

[@johnvictorino3373]

Idk I had 3 sessions of Morph8 done, from what I remember I had 2 sessions of the smaller finer needles that don’t penetrate as deep, so it’s more for tone… and 1 of the larger needles that penetrate deeper and that’s more for anti aging/skin lifting. Idk I had great results from both but I prefer the finer treatment. I mean It broke up my melasma which I wasn’t expecting. I personally love it, in fact I’m going for the first time in a year this week. Of course a person that’s guna do surgery only is guna tell u to spend 10 grand cuz the other treatments are no good. I’m sure there’s pros and cons to both

[@beaf9633]

Hi Love your advice . I had the Morpheus 8 three times and I did see great results . I’m 54 and have good skin . The results were very noticiable in the neck and really tighten the lax skin . Now i did noticed volume loss and in fact planing to get some cheek filler to substitute . The treatment is good . Not a facelift for sure , but works .

[@AliciaM5555]

It does work! And all things considered I understand why this doctor is talking about this phenomenon especially if the female isn't really looking after her skin and health. I'm 59 and I am still producing estrogen about @70%. So I don't look too bad and truthfully this guy charges $80k for his surgery and he harps on that! So what the heck, RF microneedling along with serums are the only alternative for those of us that can't have his surgery!

[@saharahmed2483]

Don't get fillers, that will be the worst thing you ever do to your body

[@petrichor100]

@@saharahmed2483 why?

[@HereWeGoruff]

Why …?

[@SomaYogaSpectrum]

I also had a good experience. I went to a plastic surgeon and made sure he knew what he was doing (it's usually not the device it's the person using the device...DO YOUR RESEARCH). For me it wasn't that painful (laser tattoo removal was way worse). Recovery was a breeze. Before the procedure I used Emla numbing cream. I prepared my skin really well before applying the cream and left it on for at least an hour. The M8 treatment was slightly painful, but very tolerable. By the next day my skin was mostly normal with a few teeny tiny scabby spots and some pink areas, which went away within 3 days. No bruising. I actually went on a date 3 days after. You won't see immediate results, it takes time for the skin to regenerate from the process. I live in Mexico and the cost for one treatment was approximately $400 USD. They suggest 3 treatments and then after that 1x a year.

[@Alejafranco]

My experience: 39 year old. I’ll be 40 in two weeks. I did two sessions of the Morpheus8 and YES 🙌 I saw results on the first and second but guess what??? The results DON’T LAST 😮. My skin look firmer and tighter for 3 to 4 months and then NOTHING… back to its original state. And I have to say for the amount of money 💰 but specially THE PAIN 😖😣 is not worth it. So much so… I’m a beauty blogger and they offered a third session for free and I won’t do it again. No way Jose 😅. What I did notice a bit was my sub-mental fat diminish. I think the fat under my double Chin went away a bit. But the laxity on my jawls which is very subtle and the thing I wanted to address the most, wasn’t improved. It was like a placebo effect that lasted 3-4 months and then the results where completely gone.

[@justagirl7780]

very accurate account of what happens. the energy temporarily delivers a tightening shrinking effect which goes away over time and then you are left with baseline plus some melted tissue. dont do more bc when you melt too much submental fat you end up with a turkey neck. think of a cute baby with a double chin vs a older purse with no double chin but a gobble gobble. quit while youre ahead and dont buy the '3 sessions' to maintain results hype.

[@artsqueenbeee]

Nobody says M8 will last forever. The protocol is 3 treatments, 4-6 weeks apart. Full affects seen at 6 months with annual maintenance, after that. But your face will still age over time. At some point M8 won't be able to keep up depending on the person, so you try something else depending on your personal goals and budget. Even facelifts don't last forever. Your two treatments gave you what is to be expected.

[@Alejafranco]

@@artsqueenbeee ok 👍 I understand. But if that’s the result that’s expected there for in my opinion IS NOT WORTH IT. Cause the result only lasted 4 months birth times. Not 6 like you said. And after those 4 months my skin was back to where initially was. Is not cheap and it’s VERY PAINFUL 😣! Again… for me and the results I’ve got not worth it.

[@Alejafranco]

@@justagirl7780 thanks 🙏 so much. Yes I definitely won’t do a third one. No way Jose 😂😅. Thanks ☺️ again

[@artsqueenbeee]

@@Alejafranco You're not understanding the process. It's NOT 6 months after each treatment. That's not how it works. I said best results at 6 months after THREE treatments. 😂

[@lindatator2932]

I feel like you are pushing faceless because that is how you make your money pretty much anything other than the facelift doesn't work in your opinion I have seen many other opinions out there too so let's feel realistic cuz without a facelift you're really not making that much money

[@TheMrc1981]

Exactly m. Im in a age at 42 where why i canot boost collagen? I only have to wait to be saggy enough for facelift????? 😂

[@ninoskasmith6568]

You are completely right. I think that if the Dr approach this issue with a different way and respect the validity of all these devices he's going to have better acceptance of his service. I have an example I am a Licensed Aesthetic Nurse who visited a Medical Esthetician because I developed dark spot in my face. The Esthetician missed diagnose what I had, and also she disqualified the products that I was using. So I just walked out of the office because you cannot discredit something to give value to what you are doing or using. I use ZO skincare from Dr Obagi and I got 15 days after the Morpheus 8 Radio Frequency and my skin looks gorgeous. It is tight, even skin tone, and glowing. I am so happy 😊 with my procedure and I am 56 years all and I have "0" wrinkles. No Botox or fillers used yet!

[@kathleenzea]

I worked for plastic surgeons for 15 years. What I miss is the straight talk . . . and the Botox, gotta be honest. Thanks for breaking down what these devices actually do and their limitations. Just found your channel and subscribed.

[@gabygutierrez8366]

The issue is facelift surgeries are so expensive that people use these options… not sure why doctors dont evaluate the prices and lower it to gain more clients.. i bet it will be a wash at the end.. granted, more work for the doctor but at the end its the reward to have helped more clients and the feeling of helping others is worth it.

[@VicMKV]

Plastic surgery is a greedy practice that feeds on the insecurities of growing older. That's why they charge what they do.

[@T.J_plays]

I’m 38 and had 3 sessions of morpheus done. But we did not go deep at all. My skin texture has definitely improved. I plan on doing morpheus every 18 months or so and just for skin corrections

[@myraparis]

Same! My experience was positive. I’ve already had a lower facelift. 67 feel great.

[@Usernamesarestupid77]

It’s a great tool to use for smaller issues but it’s not going to take years off your skin is what he is saying, I’m 32 so I’m not even that old and I didnt notice a huge difference with this skin tightening treatments

[@juul4303]

Same. I see tightening of my jowls jawline and loose skin in the front of my neck. This after 2 treatments. 7 weeks apart.

[@mariapantoja4630]

Did the marks left behind by the machine go away?

[@iamlenib6769]

I just got my last treatment of 3. So far so good

[@cherylbruce8315]

I did morpheus8, not sorry. 60 at the time but I had a specific reason, I have festoons and it really did help. I also have a great girl, one of the best who did it and she didn't go as deep when not needed. It is not pain free , by far, but it helped me. I truly believe having an experienced knowledgeable tech is all the difference.

[@dramirkaram]

I am glad it helped you!

[@patriciasustaeta4699]

Thanks Doc for telling the truth, I had morpheus 8 done on my body and it DID NOTHING but hurt as hell. Even with anesthesia I was in pain and all burnt for almost a month, it was expensive and in the end my skin is still loose😢😢😢

[@dramirkaram]

Dang. sorry to hear that. I am happy to share my knowledge. Thanks for sharing your experience

[@Sky10811]

ztrange as healing process after Morpheous8 is maximum 3 days. and after 1 week you dont have any scars. Important is to apply a heavy moisturiser constantly like Bepanthen ointment

[@theresamcdonald-smith5046]

Bad practitioner.

[@Malgorzata.Mat2023]

I had 3 morpheus8 treatments , I am 50 years old, I had plumped , much younger face before treatments, it made me aging badly , my friend asked if I lost much weight because my face looks tired . The biggest regret ever .

[@Alyssa-Asks]

Thank you for being truthful! I hope you are still working when I want my vertical restore!

[@jeantttttt566]

I absolutely loved my morpheus8 treatment. It’s the only procedure that has tightened my lower face. I don’t have severe sagging but it helped me in the perfect amount.

[@dramirkaram]

Glad it worked for you!

[@lindakreisel9752]

2:15 A plastic surgeon suggested Morpheus 8 treatments instead of a lower bleph. I've had one treatment. 2 weeks ago, and I look worse! I was told after the second it would look much better. After seeing your video I'm afraid I'm wasting my time and money. Thank you.

[@AnaGonzalez-vy4di]

@@lindakreisel9752morpheus does an inflamatory process the first weeks and you begin to see results about 4-5 weeks , thats why the session must be around 4-6 weeks apart, the device have 7 levels on intensity the most intens the better the results but its imposible to achieve that with just a cream , morpheus work incredibly well but i am wondering after reading some experiencies here if in the usa is been use correctly or its been kind of sabotage to put it in a way , i have used morpehus with amazing results but in my country we use it with an anestesiologyst to make use it Can be done correctly , because in the contrary is extrémely paintful and of course impossible to use at maximun level , we are also recommended to do some aparatology or manual massage in the face after 4 weeks for a lymphatic drainage , that will help a lot

[@Yuliana-wm9id]

This is a sales pitch. Not an honest review of Aesthetics options available.

[@sheribishop7858]

You are the first doc I"ve heard to tell the truth about losing volume with Morpheus. I did my research on this and realized that this treatment could cause great problems for an already too-thin face. It's unbelievable that some well known docs on podcasts and Sirius radio are singing its praises and misleading patients by never discussing volume loss. They would no doubt claim that their expertise in going only to a particular depth would allow a good result. They have, however, lost credibility with me as this is all about paying for a very expensive machine.

[@RundownwithRachel]

I’ve had a few Morpheus 8 treatments and loved it - BUT THE RISK REALLY ISNT WORTH IT I also love my nuface for at home use. Totally get your point that nothing is an alternative to a true facelift but nice to have some options to help in between.

[@GoldienOC]

So glad we do!

[@myraparis]

Agree completely.

[@mariapantoja4630]

I had one session and my face is so bumpy and the tiny scabs make my skin look horrible. How long did it take for your skin to get back to normal?

[@RundownwithRachel]

@@mariapantoja4630 A few days. But the first and second day was the most obvious.

[@Sita22314]

It was great for some acne scars I had and for some slight flab under my chin. M8 is worthwhile for skin problems.

[@HeatherHill-z6x]

I have not used Morpheus however I did use Neogen plasma and I did not have any positive results. I lost a lot of my fat layer which I've always had a full face and so it was very noticeable right away. The only thing my practitioner offered was more neogen plasma PSR which I absolutely refused after much consideration. So now they're offering me morpheus and I am doing my research at this point before I agreed to do anything such as that and I am of the mindset that Morpheus will not help me because NeoGen plasma did not help me. I lost fat under my skin my face is noticeably aged more and now I cannot get that back. So the goal of improving was not achieved and it's dead. I spent $2,500 on melting some of my fat layer away which was not my intention at all. So that's my story.

[@mrohde2067]

I wish I could get a facelift from you! Your work looks flawless and natural :) Well done!

[@tarek307]

I think this guy charges 100K for that lol ..

[@jenivg4922]

Of course he is promoting himself BUT he is one of the few people that have balked the system and admitted that Morpheus8 can cause fat loss. I had 2 sessions and lost an incredible amount of volume. I’m 50yrs old and my cheeks looked like I took out dentures (that I don’t have). I’ve already had a facelift and wanted tighten up the jowl area. Some has been added back with filler but it sucks to go through the pain and expense to look worse afterward.

[@dagnytaggart2027]

This is terrible! I heard the same about smas lift.

[@am6888]

same happened to my wife, terrible outcome.

[@husnajowhar5978]

Which setting was Morpheus 8 used on ?

[@robscometic]

My experience of RF-Microneelde is good so far. Its important, VERY important that the doctor to educate and inform that it's NOT a replacemet fo facilifts. Theres NO reason to go deeper than 1.0mm in facial treatments, and around the eye very gentle and max 0.25mm. It's a good treatment for wrinkles, skin thinning, pigmentation, collagen induction. And a mild lifting effect. But as with any treatment theres risks, ex. Fitzpatrick scale. And from there plan the treatments, in darker skintones always have scarring in mind. Thats the downsides of RF-microneedling. And potential hyperpigmentation. But for lift and deeper structural restorement the surgery is in favor.

[@kamankat]

A friend of mine had a deep plane facelift and neck lift, with the eyes and eyebrow lift too and lip lift , (he calls it vertical, that is just his marketing, it is a deep plane facelift and all deep plane are basically trying to pull vertically, so don’t think he is the only one doing it). And let me tell you that the healing process is very long. It takes 6 months to a year for final results. Surgery duration : 11 hours! Also she had heavy salivary glands that were reduced too because otherwise her neck would not get best results. So be prepared for that long healing process. Yes you can go back to work , but you definitely don’t look your best . Doctors need to be more honest about the real healing process. She is two months after the process and still looks puffy and has numbness in ears and upper face and she says her eyes feel weird too. I am sure it is worth it at the end, but easy it is not. But he is right all those procedures do nothing substantial and with deep plane facelifts the results are so much more natural than anything else, but the trick is to find a good surgeon that you can afford because for the success of getting a natural look you need 6 procedures and there is a fee attached for each one, so it is about 50k for someone experienced unless you go to Dr Jacono who is one of the very best and then we are talking 100k, so basically you got to be rich or be wiklling to have this done in a different country for a bit cheaper or accept to age gracefully.

[@lynnet2044]

Hi, what about using this on your arms and legs for skin tightening?

[@thesoulfulhuman1111]

I did 3 sessions of Morpheus8 just for my skin, not deeper, and it was beyond excruciating and expensive!! I would never in a million years recommend it mainly due to the pain and cost. I feel like it made my skin look smoother from teenage acne, but that’s abt it. If I’m going to do anything in the future it’ll be vertical lift.

[@livecleo]

What do you recommend for people in their 30s who started having saggy skin? I was considering in getting it done as my lip lady recommended it but i always do research.

[@dianespironello6668]

I absolutely love your videos & look forward to watching them each week! I’m learning so much! I also use your Trifecta products and seeing great results! Thank you Dr Karam!

[@olgachanturia7788]

Thank you very much Dr. Karam. does this also apply to Facetite? Many thanks! :)

[@socalmom2635]

I appreciate your honesty and insight. Please keep helping us in this way.

[@user-kq3ym8lv6v]

Had immaculate skin before I tried this treatment! I’m 49 years old-used tretinoin and sunscreen since my early twenties. Used RF microneedling, my smile lines got deeper and my skin started to sag, developed a creepy and Turkey neck as I lost so much volume. Professional RN provided treatment who is also an instructor, horrific how she pushes this product! This is the most honest video I’ve seen in regard to RF microneedling. Definitely not for everyone!

[@sounsliti4055]

Dr I d like to thank you from the bottom of my heart ..I really appreciate your videos and you taking time to educate us .. I have never done fillers yet , I did Morpheus twice but after this video I ll never go back to it .. Thank you

[@hannahswann747]

Great video- one of the best. Good advice, clear explanation and brilliant visuals. I'll be referring my clients to this video as an easy explanation. Thanks a lot 👍

[@peacenloveforall6]

I am like a lot of women here, I bought the package of 3. It was the worst experience, and yes I cried, too. In fact, this is so painful they offer to put you out for the procedure. By the time I was finished with the 2nd, I had made up my mind I was not coming back and to just use the money from the 3rd to get product. And through all that there was no amazing result, in fact, I am pretty sure fat was melted. Ladies, who are on the fence, listen to Dr Karam, take care of your skin with good products but save your money when it comes to these so-called alternative treatments, and find a good plastic surgeon. By the way, it was my esthetician from a different spa, not the dr who did the Morpheus, who recommended my plastic surgeon.

[@shyla1515]

Why not advocate fif yourself and ask for more numbing??

[@peacenloveforall6]

LOL advocate for myself? That is funny. They do numb you, they do offer to be put out during the treatment. But no, not doing that. Nothing should hurt this bad. Either way, none of that matters if the results are poor.

[@שרוןגרוסעדן]

Hi Dr. Karam What di you think about astrogen cream to the face? Thank you

[@ninjask8ter]

During my latest consultation the Doctor indicated that he would NOT recommend Fat Transfer to be done at the same time as a Deep Plane Facelift, because he said the transferred fat would have a less stable substrate due to the dissection from the deep plane. Could you alleviate this doubt in one of your following videos?

[@dramirkaram]

In my hands fat transfer is very reliable. The fat cells can establish a blood supply and provide lasting volume enhancement. I have mentioned this before in past videos but I will make sure to address this again.

[@ninjask8ter]

@@dramirkaram This same Doctor also utilizes threads in his practice and this was definitely a red flag for me. Definitely questioned his experience, but I knew that going in but I wanted to get a different perspective, and as much information as I can honestly.

[@ninjask8ter]

@@dramirkaram He went into some detail about the blood supply issue for the fat transfer, and basically refused to include it w/ the deep plane.

[@deniseshore9637]

If he refused to do a procedure maybe consider yourself fortunate. Either he hasn't had good results or hasn't seen good results. Consultations are expensive but it's devasting to have horrible results. No one mentions fat transfers-gone-wrong. But I'm proof. Just wait and find someone who does a lot and is confident it will be right for you. Please.

[@ninjask8ter]

@@deniseshore9637 My hope was to get everything done this Summer but you are right, finding the right doctor is a process. After all this isn't wrist surgery or something like that.

[@marleneross185]

Dr Karam, Inmode would never suggest to go 4mm deep. They say to go either 1mm for pigment, 2mm or 3mm deep for collagen production and ONLY 4mm for very specific areas (only lower part of the face) for fat reduction, ie double chin.

[@marthaespitia514]

Before my deep plane facelift which was this year, I had three sessions of BBL and the effect on the surface of the skin was ok like softer, with no sunspots but it didn't make me look younger at all! the only true deep significant and lasting change is a well-done facelift either plane or vertical or whatever each Dr wants to call it but surgery is the only true change.

[@alexandrasophia24]

Greetings, you are 100% correct and losing a lot of collagen over time from bone loss and gum loss. I had a series of Procell micro-needlings; believe me, done more damage to my skin and I also broke out all over from the ingredients they used. The bottom line is, it's all about marketing, selling products, and wasting money. It's nice to have good skincare, but as we age it's better to eat healthier, stay hydrated, exercise, and have a good skincare routine.

[@sm4185]

Had Morpheus with a very renowned practitioner in London and can say it was a waste of money. It does help slightly with skin texture and pigmentation temporarily but does little about skin laxity, despite being advertised to address just that. I never expected a similar result to a face lift though, just hoped it would help with a slight skin laxity under the eyes, which it didn’t

[@dramirkaram]

Thanks for sharing

[@aliciabartezaghi6963]

Plus these type of treatments destroy the fat under your skin. In the long term it will do more harm than good.

[@MyLuxuryCrush]

I paid for two Morpheus 8 treatments in advance and now I have a permanent black eye on one eye. It’s much better now after 6 months but I still see a slight darkness under my right eye. They broke an under eye capillary is what I was told by them. I never want the 2nd one. They keep calling me to schedule it but I finally told them why I’m not coming back. Thanks for making the results of the Morpheus 8 or lack of results known

[@dramirkaram]

I am sorry to hear that! Thank you for sharing... it is a common dissatisfaction so I am trying to spread the word so people can educate themselves. Your comment helps

[@lynnannepalmer1]

I had Profound done 6 years ago. It really helped with tightening and toning for several years. I'm now 6 1/2 years out and I feel I need another treatment as I lost all the benefits. I'm 65 and have looked younger than my age for the previous 5 years after I had it done.

[@marthaaldridge7752]

What is Profound?

[@lynnet2044]

So is loose skin on your arms and legs just “loose skin” or is it a problem with underlying fascia and muscle?

[@mrsnabraham]

What are your thoughts on the full face EZ Gel Plasma fill procedure? It’s 100% all natural using your own plasma

[@mariamonroy6503]

Hello Dr . What do you think about phenol peel.? Thank you.😊

[@elzibabmorac3553]

I've never heard Morpheus 8 promoted in the way you are saying it is in aesthetics. The don't claim it's a substitute for a facelift, they say it helps with skin tightening and is recommended in mild laxity cases. The problem is that people's expectations are subjective and they are probably not good candidates for it if their laxity is more severe.

[@dramirkaram]

This is a common headline "Morpheus8: The Amazing Non-Surgical Facelift Everyone is Raving About" Non surgical facelift suggests that it would provide the same results as a facelift.

[@elzibabmorac3553]

@@dramirkaram Headline from who? This video implies that a facelift is the fix all when it's not. The morpheus does things that a facelift can't. There's no go to for everything, it's about combining treatments to target different problems. It seems biased to see a plastic surgeon cross out every other treatment apart from a full face lift which is exactly what you have done in this video.

[@jr-pr9lw]

Was thinking the same. I've had three treatments and never thought of it as a non-surgical facelift until watching this video. It was never sold to me as such either.

[@elzibabmorac3553]

@@jr-pr9lw Yes and whilst I think practitioners should be as clear as they can be on what a treatment can do for you, they can't always help it if the client misunderstands them. When I had my morpheus treatments done they said before hand it will tighten my skin. I don't think I gave enough thought into what that actually meant. I got it in my head that it would tighten my face because that was what I wanted to believe. After a few months I felt like it hadn't worked so had a sit down with the Dr and realised I misinterpreted what it meant and that it actually had tightened my skin. It just didn't do anything for my mild lower face sag. So I got threads to manage that and the combination of the two is fantastic. The morpheus really made my skin firmer and helped tighten up mild crepiness. The threads gave me some lift. I'm really happy with the results now that I have figured out what I really wanted. I have had fillers twice before that but have realised I don't really need those. It can be a bit of trial and error when it comes to managing our expectations.

[@Mysterygirlll]

100% agree

[@TrishA-cp5dx]

Hi doc! Great video. What about Sofwave? What are your thoughts about Sofwave??

[@cyclamen831]

My experience: 56 yo F caucasian, good long term skin regiment ( Obagi in past, then retinoid acid and Defenage, religiously using sunscreen for years)I do botox twice a year. I bought a package of 3 M8.I tolerate well the first treatment. The second and third brought me down to tears ( I have high tolerance for pain in general ) as I was feeling electric shock sensations. The provider had no clue why, used same setting, same numbing cream. She admitted that she has seen this phenomenon before but could not provide an explanation. Results: none.I spent $ 3000. The plastic surgeon that sold me this told me I need more M8. For the cost, pain and no guarantee of at least some results I think at this point I am accepting myself and stop this nonsense.

[@Cat-hj4bp]

Hello I am 66 years old and has micro needling done 3 times and I see a big difference in my face. I love it ..

[@Alykat736]

So does using bio-I’d hormones slow down significantly the sagging and face shape changes that happen at the loss of hormones? If so when is the best time to start using them ? What age if average age of menopause is 50?

[@aubreychandlerofficial]

I appreciate all feedback. Thank you. I have heard from top models and celebrities that I work with-that Morpheus is a game changer. Even beautiful gals in their 50’s and 60’s say great things about it. There is good and bad everywhere. Definitely not one sided completely.

[@markpommett5712]

Morpheus8 is great for skin rejuvenation and tightening and offers different benefits that can not be achieved with a facelift.

[@karttiaramos461]

Super doctor👌what do You think about face yoga?

[@barbarahopper3813]

Love Dr Karam always the best most sound advice. I totally agree with the face lift as these new technologies have a long way to go to determine the negative consequences of the treatment. Take great care of your young skin and set up a plastic surgery fund for the investment you'll eventually need.

[@vaninhaleme3131]

My experience: 37 years old brazilian skin, I research a not before doing my microneedling and found out that the Brand Scarlet RF stands out when talking about results and pain. Because I heard that Morpheus 8 is sooo painful I chose to do Scarlet RF. I did 3 sesseion 1 month a part and my face trully lifted. The doctor did my before and after each session and 1 month after the 3rd session I was amazed. really worked for me and I did not lose and face fat. I guess I choose a good clinic, technology and profissional. I do believe is great to keep stimulating collagen and Scarlet Rf will be for sure a treatment I will be doing once a year. Thanks for the video.

[@dramirkaram]

I'm glad you found a clinic and treatment that worked well for you. Thanks for watching!

[@leonorramirez9062]

Thank you Dr Karam for your professional insight , knowledge and experience. Unfortunately I saw this video after spending $8000+, later. I’m a 58 year old female. I had a lower face, jowls and neck Facetite procedure, suture neck lift with 2-3 M8 treatments and I have to say, after 8 months… it was 100% plus, a WASTE OF MONEY! I saw some change, my husband didn’t. So you’re right WE see what we want to see. And come to think of it, I don’t think I ever saw a review that was written years later claiming that they were happy and that they still looked great. I know now that if I had watched this video or anything like it, that told the truth about such procedures I would have thought twice about it but unfortunately what goes through our minds is “ these plastic surgeons just want to make money off of us when we can do this and look just as good”. We’re deceiving ourselves. If we can afford a good plastic surgeon, that knows what they’re doing, like you, then we should go that route, otherwise we need to learn how to take care of our skin at a young age or any age and grow old gracefully. Thanks again and thank you for all the info you post. ❤ I would love to try your trifecta skin care but I’m one of those that never took care of their skin so I got melasma and I don’t know if it’s to late for me or for anything to help my skin now at nearly 60. I hope this helps someone out there that may be thinking of doing any of those procedures I mentioned doing.

[@danielstanley9046]

I was looking at Morpheus8, so it is a waste of money ?

[@colettepignal1612]

Hello Dr. Karam, what is your opinion of CO2 treatment? I am 71m with sun damage wrinkles. Thanks

[@Cm-up9sf]

What are your thoughts on Ellacor?

[@keilar7768]

I have used that Trilift 6 sessions and I look 10yrs younger. It's amazing and painless. I'm 51 and look 40 again.

[@Kathrynh246]

Morpheus 8 made my face fall. And it was very painful! I like Skintyte laser alot for a subtle refreshing. And halo. But they are money pits. Do you do consults via zoom or FaceTime?

[@EmeraldLeafs-lv6dn]

Thank you for this video and the comment help make a better decision. I'm in my 40's what is a better treatment do you recommend for fine lines and wrinkles thank you i. Advances.

[@kennedymonroe]

I’ve been following you for a while, and I want to say, thank you! You actually led me to a facial plastic surgeon here in Scottsdale, Arizona, Dr. Sidney Starkman. My surgery scheduled for July 10 and I feel confident in him based upon your guidance in finding the right surgeon. Again, thank you.!

[@ninjask8ter]

May I ask was this a direct referral from Dr. Karam?

[@dramirkaram]

Best of luck

[@kathrynlouiseberman7919]

@ninjask8ter, I believe what she means is that by following Dr. Karam she has been educated about not only what questions to ask when interviewing a surgeon, but also knows to listen for certain answers.

[@kennedymonroe]

@@kathrynlouiseberman7919 Yes, that’s right! :))

[@ninjask8ter]

@@kathrynlouiseberman7919 That would definitely be the right track to take. Finding the right Doctor has not been easy so far, but finding the right Doctor is important because this is a very serious undertaking.

[@LifeInStylebyLiz]

You’re the bomb 💣! So many Med Spas pushing these procedures in order to pay of the mortgage-like loans they took out to purchase these expensive devices. Glad you’re giving us the real deal ❤️

[@anellej2481]

Thank you so much for the video. I’ve had skin resurfacing done (medium vs light) using Morpheus to address post acne scars. Is it possible that it could’ve actually reduced skin volume? I’m 30, and as you said didn’t really notice any positive results post procedure but afraid that it might’ve caused some skin sagging

[@dramirkaram]

It’s hard to say of course but you should keep the settings shallow between .5 - 1mm and you will be safe