Plastic to fuel - DO NOT USE PET TO MAKE BIODIESEL [Episode 2]

[@torvusjunction]

DO NOT USE PET TO MAKE BIODIESEL. That is all haha.

[@DamithaNadeeshaWanniarachchi]

this is not biodiesel .

[@Madness-go3uk]

Just found your channel man this stuff is awesome but dude you lucky you're still didn't explode here lol stay alive keep putting out good content

[@sammyd7857]

The oxygen in their terephthalate just makes a mess

[@sammyd7857]

It could be that you need a larger reflux area though.

[@CatboyChemicalSociety]

@@sammyd7857 it decarboxylates and it forms benzene which is actually really carcinogenic

[@goldenrod8861]

Turning HDPE into fuel is a great and noble venture, I wish you all the best. That said, please stop calling it "biodiesel" because that couldn't be further from the truth. Biodiesel is NOT petroleum based. Plastic is a 100% petroleum product. Thank you.

[@torvusjunction]

It is biodiesel, sorry buddy.

[@goldenrod8861]

​@@torvusjunction I understand your plight. I too like petroleum products but since so many tree huggers are down on it we feel the need to imply something is "green" or "sustainable" so we use a term that sounds friendly and warm.

[@hobiekanobie4982]

sorry buddy, bio diesel is made from waste veg oil, or any veg based oil. look up Rudolf Diesel. he made the very First bio fuel engine, to run on veg oil. look what happened to him. Big Oil companies took over, Mr Diesel, never to be seen again, History, look it up.........diesel engine, today, in name sake only. he never got to see his invention come to fruition. conspiracy theory?????? mayyyyyybe.....

[@hobiekanobie4982]

but hey. i like this concept... way too much plastic in this world. if i can convert it to run a small 4stroke engine to power my gen set, ill give it a go..

[@goldenrod8861]

@@hobiekanobie4982 Absolutely correct. Biodiesel is made from vegetation and or animal fats. That's what my first comment said. The product he is making comes from petroleum. Yes, plastic is petroleum.

[@walwal7814]

I am an old back yard destiller - - if you have a water tank ( 6000 litre ) have fresh cold water from your tank water running into your coil tank to keep the coils coil ALL the time - you will find it will work better again - If you dont the water in the coil tank will always stay warm or even hot so you will lose a lot of vapour. Use you pump from your tank to fill and circulate nice COOL water constanly in your coil tank

[@princemlambo7849]

Sir what catalyst do you use in your pyrolysis process l need help. Thanks in advance

[@mysticjaarse]

1. Your cooker is not airtight. You had oxygen getting in and messing up the reaction. You should't have used copper fittings, they are leaky. 2."The PET plastic was just gassing and not condensing, this makes PET plastic a bad candidate" dude you did not have more room for condensation to take place, should have had a longer looping pipe that came out fro the boiler. it is not bio-diesel please!! 3. PET is not the mistake, your process is the flaw. If you had an airtight boiler oxygen would'd have reacted with your plastic as it was melting. The gases you got did not have more time and roof for condensation and surely reacted with the air in the atmosphere. This is dope though keep doing it. Use LPG container that is airtight and use piping system that is 100% airtight as well. Good Luck!

[@Termiic]

The problem with PET and why it won't work is simple - molecule contains oxygen atoms, creating oxidation reactions. However, PET burns cleanly in presence of enough oxygen, so use them in that stove.

[@99-white-balloons]

Really? Damn

[@sammyd7857]

Better just to recycle the PET

[@gregs8672]

It is not condensing because it reacts with the oxygen in the system and it becomes all kinds of really bad stuff. The gas must be free of oxygen till it gets to its condensation temperature then it will be stable as fuel. Use ice in your condenser! Make sure the coil is able to drain if any liquid gest stuck it can cause significant back pressure.

[@torvusjunction]

Yes I am currently working on a design where I can flush the oxygen and see if it helps.

[@sammyd7857]

More reflux area. Cooled reflux condenser.

[@mattmakes2135]

Thank you so much for the tip, I am sure you have just saved me plenty of trouble in the future, Thank you.

[@1944yo]

The solution to the problem of oxygen in HDPE is very simple. 1. Take a container of the desired size relative to the amount of plastic you have. 2. Slightly below its upper lip connect a hose leading to a storage container. 3. Fill half the tank with oil. 4. Pour shredded plastic into the oil tank. 5. Heat the oil to the temperature inside which the plastic melts. 6. As the process continues you will receive liquid / fuel [almost] oil. 7. Good luck.

[@yashiro798]

What oil type you are talking about?

[@mrcharles4636]

What type of fuel what it be? Would it be able to run a generator or car? Thanks

[@firebladex8586]

4:58 that dog is so cute

[@doomin3449]

Please keep making videos!

[@gregshailer2702]

Would recommend not using glass jars, they have the potential to shatter or explode. Go steel, pressure cooker or something else. Cool concept👌

[@torvusjunction]

If the glass jars got extremely hot and cold in short periods of time, it would probably shatter, but in this case its fine. I did upgrade the first "catch can" to a steel one just in case.

[@kelvinsparks4651]

Very interesting and useful information, thank you. I've seen some other videos of the vapour simply condensing straight from the heating chamber too directly under water and the condensate floating on top , I wonder if that would pull any form of fuel from the gasses.

[@torvusjunction]

I don't think so, the fuel separates from the water. I chose not to do it that way because separating the fuel from the water looks like an unnecessary hassle.

[@nateb4543]

I thought one of the advantages of small scale pyrolysis is that plastic doesn't need to be split into different types. At large scale with catalysts it does, but backyard kinds can use a mix. Am I wrong?

[@thehindustani9033]

Thanks for the information brother....we are expecting more videos related by the plastic...all the best ..👍👍

[@torvusjunction]

Thank you! I am currently working on another plastic video.

[@thehindustani9033]

@@torvusjunction we wish to upload it as soon as possible

[@vancep4906]

I imagine something similar would happen with polystyrene, since it also consists of aromatic hydrocarbons. Although the products may not be useful for diesel, perhaps they could be used for something else.

[@torvusjunction]

Some people have tried polystyrene and had a good result, BUT its those indian videos, and I have a feeling some of them was faked. That is why I started this channel, and series, I'm not faking anything. I want people to see the real results.

[@abroquet2189]

@@torvusjunction Polystyrene would work just like polyethylene or polypropylene which have carbon and hydrogen in their molecules.There is no water as a by- product, like your PET plastic which would lower the temperature needed for cracking. PET plastic could break down to form substances that sublimate like terephthalic acid or benzoic acid. I reacted PET with caustic soda to obtain terephthalic acid which was isolated. Heated and distilled with slight excess of 4 moles of sodium hydroxide, benzene was the product. Not efficient. Benzoic acid is better. Extractions And Ire KZbin channel did something similar. Worth checking out.

[@thegermanguy-it3ek]

Bro, PET is C10H8O4n, there's no sulfur in PET. You just made parafin wax.

[@torvusjunction]

I doubt that was paraffin wax in the tin, that smelled absolutely horrible. I would say it was more like sulfur and some kind of acid.

[@chrism9017]

@@torvusjunction Additive? maybe triphenyl phosphite aka TPP?

[@gazzarrr666]

Well seeing as it is ester of terephthalic acid, mybe that is what you can smell?

[@nickpednekar5312]

What is the container that you are using to boil the plastic? Where can I get it? Please help

[@torvusjunction]

Its an empty metal paint can.

[@nickpednekar5312]

@@torvusjunction what are those pipe fittings called? Can I get them online? Cause I'm not able to find them in local shops

[@akrzone4057]

What to do with burned plastic inside the tine?

[@selvanmaistry5771]

What material did you use to make condenser coil

[@torvusjunction]

That was aluminum coil from a vintage fridge's radiator.

[@TheRealKitWalker]

You can use PET plastic to make 3dprinters filament

[@zsoltszepfalvi5798]

how or where can you buy the L shape for the copper pipe?

[@shizagarzon6308]

Can I ask? i hope you will give me a reply. Where can I use the output of this?

[@anwarsubagie6460]

Bro....how did you made the flashback resistor... is it safe..??

[@torvusjunction]

It is safe yes, as long as the water is kept at a certain level you will be safe.

[@romanfares9864]

Did you purge the oxygen out of the tank ?

[@bryaniskoo]

Do you get methanol at 140f?

[@Peter_A1466]

You mention sulphur compounds as a by product?

[@Ixquick979]

Are those stone pine pinecones?

[@torvusjunction]

I have no idea.

[@NeuralJuke]

Thanks, there are some studies already you can find online about what plastic and catalist are the best to use greets.

[@torvusjunction]

I did find them, I will make a video on each of them, see what type of plastic works best for my setup and stick to that. Thank you for the comment, I appreciate it!

[@danielpasca6698]

@@torvusjunction the best Catalist is Zeolit, natural or sintetic, can be us 10 % in reactor or in fluidized bad. Using the Biodiesel name for a synthetic product is a major mistake for you and those who know the field. To attract views, you ruin your notoriety in Google algorithms as well.

[@tahanlaoboy]

The copper pipe that in the water bottle was too deep and created too much pressure for the gas to travel, just pull the copper pipe up about half of it

[@CatboyChemicalSociety]

you need a catalyst to make this process work like try using copper oxide, alumina, copper chromite, silica

[@dogodogo5891]

hi i watch your vids about membrane that so great !! how about zeolite? did your mentioned catalyst only need one type, or you mix them all?

[@CatboyChemicalSociety]

@@dogodogo5891 youi can blend em

[@princemlambo7849]

Which one is the best and at what ratios. Thanks in advance

[@CatboyChemicalSociety]

@@princemlambo7849 copper chromite is the best but a close second is copper oxide and you add up to 3 percent weight catalyst

[@princemlambo7849]

Thanks sir.

[@rickyli909]

so, which type is the best for Biodiesel ?

[@rheet90]

Thanks for making the mistake so that we don't 🙏🏼

[@torvusjunction]

Anytime buddy!

[@edwardwilliam23]

Is that water in bottle...

[@torvusjunction]

Yes, it is to prevent flashbacks into the system.

[@raomohan295]

After 10000 mistakes adison made a light bulb.

[@piranapirana630]

No utilizo un tronador para de esa manera atrapar cualquier residuo de cera y aceite aparte debe de hacer circular agua fría por el serpentín si no la condensación no va a ser efectiva

[@CUBETechie]

How about plastic bags?

[@torvusjunction]

Yes that would work, most plastic bags are made of HDPE same material as milk bottles and shampoo bottles.

[@observers341]

@@torvusjunction What if you mix it with HDPE plastic? is it possible?

[@stuffbywoody5497]

And to add to your problem, there was way too much air inside your solid fuel container. It should be crammed with as much plastic as possible and as little air as possible. The oxygen still inside your container of plastic causes an oxidizing chemical reaction from what I understand from others that have done extensive experimentation.

[@occamraiser]

When did you decide that cooking plastic makes 'BIO' Diesel. It makes Oil-based Diesel, obviously.

[@michaelnelson1877]

Well technically coal and crude are essentially petrified plant & Animal material. Lol

[@Gafarbhai8181]

AAP. KAHA. SE HE. HAME. AAPASE. MILANA. HE

[@flashpointrecycling]

@Torvus Junction - I love what you are doing but PLEASE do not use the term ¨Biodiesel¨ in relation to anything you are doing here. Biodiesel is NOT a generic term. It is something specific and completely different then what you are doing. Biodiesel has been done a great disservice as a result of using the term incorrectly. It has caused allot of confusion world wide.

[@torvusjunction]

As is it cannot be used as biodiesel, BUT the end product I have in mind can be used as biodiesel. So technically it is biodiesel.

[@flashpointrecycling]

@@torvusjunction - I love your videos and admire your technology but.... I make Biodiesel professionally. I am a fuels chemist. The product you depict in these videos so far, are not now and never will be biodiesel. You can not use this plastic material or any part of your rig to make Biodiesel. Biodiesel is something completely different. Biodiesel is made from vegetable oils or animal fats ONLY and uses a very specific chemical process. If you want to be a backwoods jug head hillbilly, call it anything you want. If you want to appear smart, just climb the next hill and absorb everything it has to teach you. I am rooting for you to finish this plastic project.

[@torvusjunction]

@@flashpointrecycling ​Thank you for your confidence in my little project. Here is a link for some food for thought. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJusinuqe9KWidU

[@ellandreinochavez835]

You cant use pet to make diesel fuel?

[@yasminraninkumar6905]

Good attempt but should get the analysis report it is not bio diesel and the type of vehicles to be investigated which should be using the product

[@travismoore7849]

Maybe add a bit of powdered Cerium oxide and some ruthenium carbonate for a catalyst so it breaks down faster.

[@princemlambo7849]

Do you add both at the same time sir and what ratios ,thanks in advance

[@travismoore7849]

@@princemlambo7849 I just think that may be a bit but I guess experimenting was the idea. And as a catalyst is not used up you should be able to use them over and over.

[@nade2628]

There was air probably getting in somewhere

[@torvusjunction]

Yes probably.

[@ediceek]

Oh fck i do a mistake before i saw this video 😵🤦‍♂️

[@awesomedee5421]

LDPE, HDPE, PP, are what you need for diesel. Do not use PET or PS.

[@MrOner07]

you can actually use plastic bottles for fuel... but your setup is wrong. thats it is just producing smoke and not liquid

[@brunokerbaul3826]

According to the temperature, plastics are more interesting to re-use by turning them liquide then using Thermomodeling to create useful objects In the case of creating fuel by burning a lot of wood or other... Fuels... I don't understand where the interest is If you consider the gazs emission climat problem... This is really not a good solution

[@bryannoyce]

Most plastic recycling requires the plastics be separated before reuse. This process is often done by hand, it is expensive, and may have health risks for the plastic sorters. The interest in fuel is that the plastics may not need to be sorted. Also, if the plastic is used in the standard industrial supply chain, it will have to be shipped from the place that the plastic waste was generated to a recycling facility, in some cases it would make more sense to just use it as fuel locally. Imagine an extreme case, an island far out in the ocean, fuel is very expensive due to shipping costs, and all the benefit of recycling the plastic would be lost to shipping. There are many places in the world where it would be far more profitable and environmentally friendly just to turn the waste plastic into fuel and burn it locally. Also, wood is "carbon neutral" and is usually available locally, so it requires little shipping.

[@klaasvaak3997]

There is No climat problem the only worldwide problem we have is a political problem , there is also No such thing as overpopulation the world is big enough for al of us and gives us all we need everything is already on this planet always has

[@KanalVidosov]

PET is C10H8O4 where is sulfur?

[@utsavparmar8111]

Thank bro

[@sammyd7857]

There is no sulphur in PET.

[@askhanmartynius]

😳the wrong way,

[@Edmech]

You didn't really "bust" anything. And most of thes are just proof of concept videos. The process is real, and it does what they claim. Did anyone say you could pour this sludge in a gasoline car? Or just diesel engines? Oil, plastic, fuel, solvents etc are all bad for the environment, we know that. Use it or don't.

[@mindripperful]

I read Pet and my warped mind went to dark places

[@AnDyity]

so you made sulfur thats cool that means you can use that for gun powder.

[@torvusjunction]

Haha instead of doing this again, I'd rather buy sulfur off the shelf.

[@AnDyity]

@@torvusjunction It can be done safely, getting a way from spending money is the point that is why I checked out your video.

[@christofvanpoucke8360]

WQm

[@rodrigomartinez6132]

I don't think you are such an idiot as not to know that you lack a cooler that condenses the gas and drops liquid like benzine,,,, or you do it to show another reaction of the process,,, because in my opinion the assembly of your system distillate is excellent.

[@mrdog9026]

I disagree that pets can be used as fuel; I conducted sufficient research and experimentation.

[@princemlambo7849]

How do you do it ,please help. Thanks in advance