PLAY TO WIN PREDICTS THE FUTURE - WHAT'S IN STORE FOR 2024?

Dylan and Cam try to predict what's in store for cEDH in 2024
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[@jacob510]

Forgetting that Niv Mizzet got a new printing in Aftermath, that set had so many almost interesting cards its a shame its basically been forgotten

[@voidprism_studios666]

People say that but Ob Nixilis, Nissa, Narset. Overall the set was generically good and seemingly made for mid/high power edh. And tbf that new niv isn't seen, heard or talked about in cedh so it's easy to understand why they forgot it existed.

[@davidew345]

Reckless handling is a secret banger of a card too, being another tutor in red

[@jacob510]

@voidprism_studios666 I loved the set personally, well, the cards in it at least. I run Samut in my Najeela list for cEDH.

[@xXCigarXx]

​@@davidew345agreed.

[@Sami-rw8cs]

As an English person hearing Cam say ‘Worcestershire’ brought me such joy 😂

[@Diamondstar1ify]

The intro made me think of alternate names for "segments" and I really like the idea of calling em "phases" on a Magic channel!

[@AnthonyWhitford]

@PlayToWinMTG damn that’s actually a good idea, take this man’s advice

[@dave_8600]

Same!

[@kylehill]

I will ABSOLUTELY be making a full-bling Radiation.deck

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

We’ll need to see that on the channel for sure

[@AdmiralSnakbar77]

I love how the talk about Magic sets devolved into a 3-4 minute debate on what "bottom-up" means, lmao.

[@JerJoGo]

I'm excited for mothman for casual. I'm gonna mix it as a proliferate and mill deck. Gonna call it MILFerate

[@TheGrifcannon22]

Mill I'd like to Ferate

[@Mcrypt117]

Big brain play!!!!!

[@ImWintercat]

The wise mothman also works with Cephalid illusionist to mill your whole library (usually at least)

[@zoleriibaenre8365]

My biggest hope for Bloomburrow is that it's a three color set (potentially completing the cycle with Thunder Junction if it's also 3 colors) and that Otters get to be the Temur rep so I can play otter tribal

[@nickcorsones3463]

I WANT OTTOR TRIBAL SO BAD! there is so few of them

[@taylorwheaton840]

I'm stoked for Duskmourn. I love contained worlds and settings. Some of my favorite horror/thriller movies are the ones that take place at one location or even a single room. The idea of a plane entirely contained within a house of horrors creates a cool sense of claustrophobia that hopefully translates to flavorful card design. And I think this will likely line up with the Halloween season. My guess is Bloomburrow will be the "safe" set where the power level is pulled back and Duskmourn will be pushed to high heavens.

[@nheimi99]

I haven't seen or heard of bloodpod showing up in tournaments for awhile, but Dylan has referenced it a lot lately. Would love to see an updated version on the show sometime soon :)

[@mariambarnes4023]

It's worth noting that murders at karlov Manor, while set on ravnica, is not a guild set. So while we'll be getting cool new cards for returning characters, it's going to have a normal amount of multicolored cards rather than the ravnica standard of a bunch

[@jonathankowatch6947]

Kenrith is also great as he can pump up advantage engine creatures against orcish bowmasters if needed.

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Hell yeah, he does everything and I love him

[@samuelbeall439]

I know you guys said you don't like to read, but the "Redwall" book series by Brian Jacques is what the Bloomburrow set seems like it will be to me. Looking forward to all the episodes in 2024! Happy New Year guys!

[@clicks5271]

Cam: Horses are creatures, not artifacts. Workhorse (from Exodus): Am I a joke to you?

[@bounds8622]

Cam melted my brain a bit here.. bc he was so confident but so wrong omgomgomg I am so glad he looked it up.

[@chrisr9595]

my cat stepped on my laptop while I was out of the room and set the play speed to .75 and I was really concerned because Dylan and Cam both sounded absolutely wasted and it took me a solid 5 minutes to figure it out.

[@noahmurtha4036]

PLAY SPELL SNARE!!!! The amount of 2 drop spells in cEDH that actually just win games is absolutely insane. It’s FAR better than stern scolding

[@Rei_Zayaki]

Oko has a chance to be desparked as a commander. The only time he showed up in lore is when Kellan revealed that Oko is his dad. So we don't know his status otherwise at the moment.

[@cobaltbeau]

Id love to see cam doing some chill lets play content/stream

[@christianbergeron2519]

Wow, you really nailed it on the "horse vehicle" thing, with the new Saddle mechanic.

[@healthylife1499]

I love how you read the patrons names.

[@_claymore]

Dylan's "uh oh.. is that furry stuff..?" at ~ 36:53 is hilarious. I can't tell whether he's saying it in a "oh hell nah" tone or more of a "oh hell yea" tone :DD

[@Dafins100]

I remember the days when you guys thought Smothering Tithe was a meme card. How the turn tables.

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

The times they are a changing. But Ron Burgundy had never heard that song before

[@ReyaadawnMTG]

I already had a deck running Hushbringer and am adding this in as well. The only changes it's requiring is removing Portable Hole and switching Semblance Anvil out for Cloudkey. Excited to wreck some docksides

[@mirthoutofmire]

I really hope the plane of duskmourn is just one long hallway with rooms that loop like in Scooby-Doo

[@jaisonk22]

When they were talking about the horses and being crewed, it made me think of Sylvia Brightspear and Khorvath Brightflame. So maybe just a partner commander, I imagine.

[@ariginsburg6228]

Imagine if the horror set is just an unofficial 'Cabin in the woods' UB set

[@wifflewaffle6954]

Some spicy tech that I've been running for the Rhystic Study meta in my Talion deck is Steal Enchantment. Feels really good having 2 Rhystic Studies in play along with Talion and potentially a Sakashima clone. Also lets you nab Necropotence!

[@lotus_pdxg3586]

just one thing abhout stern scolding it stops the etbs e.g. dockside,bowmasters and so on also for effects like esper you stop them with out giving them a card

[@SonOfSodium]

For duskmourne (also extremely hyped) on the "girl tripping" thing idc if it's main set or secret lair for Jason or what, but I'ma need tragic slip as a reprint w that art if not a new card (could be kill spell or counterspell)

[@Gearhook]

Oko as Temur to represent the freedom of Thunder Junction maybe? And I definitely would guess "Outlaw" as the typal theme.

[@Sekraiii]

You had me confused since Moxfield does have an App but I guess it's Android only for now, either way lovely video as always!

[@zlwilson21]

For iOS users there is a way they can make a website into an app icon. When clicked it still just opens the webpage in whatever browser you use but iOS can have a janky app for it too!

[@jacobh4077]

I think we are likely to get Outlaw as a creature type, but i do think Cowfolk could have some very funny secret lair implications.

[@iainwalker-brown1536]

Aren't cowfolk just Minotaurs?

[@samuelkyle9894]

Didnt go through every comment, but i scrolled for a minute and saw ZERO people bring up the article “The Seedborn Muse Question-How Good is Too Good in cEDH?” By Sam Black. With the premise of ‘okay. Seedborn Muse is good, game winningly good. But that means people are going to learn how to play against it, so what does that look like & how should I adapt to those people’s adaptations?’, it’s a good read.

[@egoish6762]

I think ad naus is going to dip in usage then come back with a vengence late in the year as we get more midrange and then turbo makes a comeback.

[@Donny-G]

Love the saddle prediction 😜

[@GrandShroombah]

Not on topic of the video but out of curiosity how do you guys get proxies and how often do you proxy out cards like the moxes and mana crypt?

[@kinginthenorth1437]

Magic had gun powder as far back as Fallen Empire. Goblin Grenades baby.

[@GregJourdan]

You got the mount prediction right :D

[@tylerhennessy2701]

Love the new segment!

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Segments will definitely be making many many returns!

[@tylerhennessy2701]

@@PlaytoWinMTG at the end of the year we will definitely need a best segment of the year segment

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

What’s the best segment in cEDH

[@TeamSprocket]

I'm hoping WotC prints some kind of modal stax cards in 2024, it would really help if I could get the kind of stax I need without always having to tutor for that silver bullet and could just pick a mode of some kind as the stax piece comes in.

[@Lavorre]

If you do segments, KZbin lets you do "Chapters" in the video description!

[@thatsmrpirate5456]

For Duskmourn I was also thinking along the lines of Friday the 13th, texas chainsaw massacre, etc. Looking at the preview poster I'm also thinking along the lines of Clive barkers hellraiser and Stephen King books like the mist

[@meximan374]

Hell yeah Bois, new year new vid!!!

[@timhellum5587]

And maybe horsemanship might make a comeback in outlaws

[@imanujakku]

Bloomburrow looks like redwall or wind in the willows. I expect mice, frogs, toads at the very least lol.

[@jweezy15able]

Hold on, are you guys telling me that opponents would actually pick "bribery" for Tivit? And not have a plan to steal the tokens? That's wild. I assumed opponents always picked "evidence" since it's a space waster on your field. But I'm excited for 2024. I think the Fallout stuff will definitely get some play, but not replace much of anything. And I also think we'll see a gradual, if not compete, stop to treasure producing spells outside of Pirates.

[@firespirit8026]

Instead of Crew what if the keyword was “Mount” and it is a different flavor of crew where the creature could hop on and off of another creature for bonuses to the creature being mounted - it still taps the creature like crew. One example idea for how this could work is a 2/2 horse with mount 2 and trample. “While this creature is mounted, gain +2/+2 and first strike”. And it’s similar to crew where you give up a creature for the turn to give additional effects for that creature but only 1 creature can mount.

[@CorneliusQvist]

Enlist?

[@damo9961]

Your mom has 'mount: 1'

[@Tspang42]

I’m thinking the duskmourn set might be like a cronenberg kinda vide which is also kinda phyrexian so idk

[@MetaLibanez1]

Bro's im literally skilling in OSRS listening to the pod hahahaha. Love your work.

[@jkatttt]

Wizards we need a RuneScape Secret Lair ASAP!!!

[@CasuallyAvg]

Man the Assasins Creed UB is a prime opportunity to reprint the Mirran(?) swords. Exciting for casual commander, not so much CEDH

[@tinyromansoldier9113]

On the topic of other plains discovering gunpowder and advancing technology. To go with Cam's comment about tanks, Rocket Launcher is already a card...

[@OmegaSCP]

for the creature type of cowboys in Outlaws at thunder Junction, maybe rebels comeback?

[@eklipze0348]

Hoping if the cowboy type appears its something like outlaw. Would be awesome to build an Outlaw tribal

[@LyndseyLuvs]

Assassin's Creed also had a race of "God like" people who exist in equipment now. We could see a return to "flip equipment" like Dowsing Dagger from Ixalan.

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Wow what game is that from? I never got to that or never paid too close attention

[@LyndseyLuvs]

It's from the whole series actually. The "pieces of Eden" were used in a variety of manners and perplexed humans as the technology to invent them was of a lost civilization that ruled over humanity. It's what the Templars seek the entire time so they may wield god-like power and why Assassins oppose them. @@PlaytoWinMTG

[@LyndseyLuvs]

Swords, staves, orbs to ponder!!!

[@danielgamboa6130]

21:06 first time I think I recall Cam say first chain food sliver by its correct name before

[@xXCigarXx]

First chain food sliver!

[@GreenNightlight]

The long segment names remind me of 2000s emo and hard-core song titles ❤🤘

[@Magickingdom364]

How does it work keep putting your commander to the and bring Mothman back multiple times

[@Player24eatpoop]

I hope we get a card for the unluckiest planeswalker in duskmourn, it seems like a good place for him to be show up for the first time. A big scary house that he can’t find his way out of because he doesn’t realize that the house is the whole plane

[@flitterbyes]

Leatherface secret lair was all i needed to hear today

[@Eiyaa90]

I need that metal Majin Buu shirt.. for reasons

[@timhellum5587]

I don’t know how cedh it is but I put food chain and squee in my faldorn dread wolf herald deck.

[@kamilwhaley-kalaora4839]

I’m telling y’all you have GOT to try liesa shroud of dusk as a Cedh stax deck. It is some of the best life total pressuring out there and unlike winota IS black so you get sheoldred and bowmasters, plus you can run the vito+exquisite blood combo and your commander is never going to cost more than 5

[@adamallen5691]

I'm fully expecting more bikes instead of horses in Thunder Junction. A return to Desert's could be quite cool. If we got more desert support a bit like snow could Hazezon, Shaper of Sand see CEDH play?

[@damo9961]

If we got 20 new dual color deserts that came into play untapped :P It was played in a tournament but it was ridiculously outclassed

[@Ryan-rt5bl]

The moment I saw people run unwinding clock for ToR i knew it was a matter of time till seedborne came back

[@adcarrion96ac]

One wish I have is a Mk set we got SF and brought some good cards and I believe Mk can translate well my only scare for that sadly is ninjas will get another buff

[@TCVxPRIDE]

Spell Snare is the counter 2 CMC card. Feel it's much better than Stern Scolding

[@MrPhantomPC]

I’m personally so hyped for the Candy Crush expansion in spring of 2025 and the Summer Secret Lair series on Microsoft Office.

[@linus437]

would build a clippit deck

[@WindexChugger]

Segment idea: banlist review!

[@jackharries9057]

Do you think fiery covenant and toxic deluge will see more play

[@darkskinnedtraveler]

ok, cool predictions. but where do i get the kid buu shirt?

[@Sharp2792]

Can confirm you feel like the overpowered anime protagonist when you have a Seedborn and One Ring at the same time

[@magicalgirlanime]

My favourite place, War Chester Shire

[@skullkrusher-dx4kg]

Guys be forgetting kamigawa took a scifi turn. Motorcycles and mechs.

[@THEDEADSULLY]

That RuneScape comment from Dylan was unexpected but super based. Typing this while playing OSRS :D

[@HPWolfgang]

I think serra Ascendant is exceptional. 1 mana bug dumb that demands removal. It's a great Lightning rod for removal and not a big deal to lose. I gained 6-18 life and baited removal. Win win win

[@joshbailey7775]

Duskmourne creepily similar to Bloodblorne.

[@MattViviani]

Stern scolding hasn’t disappointed me yet. The “it doesn’t counter ad naus” doesn’t hold up, I cut Deadly Rollick for it. That doesn’t counter Naus either, but Scolding hits Abolisher.

[@brendanrogers9830]

Dylan’s shirt is so cool

[@Demon_of_Razgriz]

There are quite a few MK characters that utilize firearms. Cassie Cage, Sonya Cage and Erron Black (this guy is about as cowboy as you get). That's not including the crossover characters they've had in the last few games.

[@VeilofDeathMTG]

The Wise Mothman gets a shoutout - I celebrate :D

[@Halospartan151]

I hope that banding comes back in outlaws of thunder junction

[@papabear5506]

Maybe someone can tell me here.. when was the very first cEDH tourny?

[@ImpossibleKirk]

Runescape Universes Beyond? You know The Wild Old Man and Bob the Cat will be busted!

[@dondariohabibi5118]

When dylan said Runescape!!!! That would be the only Universe beyond i would support

[@ColorsAreACrutch]

I'll be showing what Ob Nix can do at Mox Masters next weekend 😈, I still don't think its as good as Kinnan, but time to play a different two color deck

[@linus437]

RIP 15% win rate

[@hulloclayton6685]

Oh wow just realised that obeka counters the mothman win. Just end the turn in the upkeep before your precombat main phase and then watch the mothman player die. Would make that matchup pretty interesting.

[@everetttimewarp782]

killer klowns from outer space shout out, I cant believe it make it happen wizards. Best movie ever.

[@SteelDevilReal]

I'm Roma, i'm really waiting for horses in cEDH :)

[@evilagram]

Realistically, horses would have reconfigure, which may not fit flavorwise, but would make sense mechanically. So probably a renamed version of reconfigure.

[@aar7149]

I stayed on delay for three years now never regretted ever I saved the table more than once being able to stop creature combos

[@maxwelllebreux5198]

Where did you get the Majin buu shirt?

[@mimiklureaegis9906]

Little do our hosts know we DO have a gun in MtG…THE TOMMY GUN!!! (Arcsplitter.).

[@CH3WI3B]

Heyo. Potentially really dumb question. I’m part of the PTW’s Patreon but I’m only using the app version. How do I get access to the discord? Would appreciate any info, thanks!

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

The link is in the welcome email. If you can find us message us on Patreon

[@FizzarolliJ]

I'm convinced that Stifle/Trickbind should be good in Low Color Blue decks. I am not coping, I think it's relevant.

[@rwb392]

So if they’re bringing horses and cowboys in Thunder Junction… are they bringing back Horsemanship?

[@GreatGamerRyo]

can we get a top ten ranking of the new podcast structures?

[@samuelbeall439]

"Legit fuckin tanks!" - Cam, LOL, great predictions, I feel like all of these are coming true; if you're looking for facts, check out Play to Win people! Great episode! 🥰

[@Saint0fPain]

I love bloodbraid elf. My first standard deck was a Jund deck during that time. Don't know if I have ever had a deck I liked as much sense... Wish I could find a commander deck that made me feel that old Boomer Jund feeling...