Players Caught Cheating In Smash Bros Tournaments

[@lorddelta1805]

Broke: wait for Sakurai to buff your character. Woke: buff the character yourself.

[@plapin3538]

“I'm Gonna Do What's Called a Pro Gamer Move.”

[@jonathantruong7069]

"Fine, I'll do it myself."

[@Star_Taro]

Lol

[@darksyde0418]

Patience is a sin

[@rouge-ish324]

i would if i could

[@ThePigKnight]

Switching controllers mid game is such an anime move.

[@smerriebak3452]

* Last surprise intesifies *

[@vali6025]

smerriebak r6 You’ll never see it coming!

[@bobby45825]

I'm trying to figure out how it's cheating though. Just because they might play differently isn't, in my mind, a good enough reason. The same players could just switch gears and play like each other without switching controllers and nobody would say a thing.

[@jackson-md2gh]

*Jotaro theme plays*

[@Futuristic271]

@@bobby45825 it's mostly a problem when one player is out of stocks and they switch controllers to get the last stock. That isn't really fair

[@vish5942]

pichu: *heals self* everyone: yo that might be cheatin idk

[@AdfasSSBM]

Pichu hurts self Pikachu doesn't hurt self Raichu heals self

[@9Coronas]

pichu: uses falcon punch everyone: i guess i forgot he could do that, hmmmm

[@2350CST]

Pichu: has final smash, something that didn’t exist in melee Everyone: Damn, Pichu kinda broken

[@stevenflores7405]

Pichu: *regen stocks* Everyone: "Pichu is not the worse character after all".

[@randomname2437]

666 likes

[@DawnofRoxas101]

I thought we were talking about Ultimate because I legitimately forgot Pichu was in Melee

[@mryup6100]

@schmool schmooter B O O M E R !

[@TheRealmDrifter]

Pee Chew

[@MIGU3L2K]

Everyone is here, ‘member?

[@bleachigo990]

schmool schmooter it’z spulld vurjen.

[@jakehawthorn7920]

@Warukuma aside from the tag how is this misleading

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

"Cheaters never win" Yeah, it's because they get disqualified.

[@shinobu153]

Nah it's because only the bad cheaters get caught. If the cheater is skilled you'll never even know they were cheating.

[@elishajfranco]

shinobu153 true

[@ImFeja]

@@shinobu153 Yea look at csgo pros. Most are legit, but there's so many cheaters in the pro scene. *Cough Cough* Word.exe *Cough*

[@matthewcuriel991]

Life is different ... cheaters tend to get further and get more and do nothing deserving of what they are given. And furthermore do nothing meaningful with their newly acquired fortunes. They dont win though ... they just become the biggest losers in life. They dont know what to do with the prize they are granted and end up being miserable and dont go out with grace. Which is good because cheaters are fucking lame and likely deserve their punishments 😎👌. Life is an everyone lose scenario which is actually kinda hilarious but ultimately sad at the same time.

[@bugsterlincapoop7900]

@@shinobu153 Pokemon competitive pros allow us to introduce ourselves

[@TheBigKaiju]

The creator of Doki-Doki literature Club used to be an intense Smash Bros player. Some things you just never expect to hear in a sentence

[@settler3093]

Even more interesting, he was a Link main and pushed a pretty good amount of his meta

[@hibernate44]

He created UCF

[@tonynieves7206]

Yeah i played versus him at san japan this year. He plays link i beat him.

[@tonynieves7206]

@@kitmin1534 he beat one of my friends who beat me and he won the small tourney. His link is pretty nice. Id say hes okay.

[@happycamperds9917]

He also makes MM2 Kaizo levels.

[@mageferago]

I’m just waiting for Raid Shadow Legends to sponsor a smash tournament

[@UltimaKeyMaster]

Thank god it's something different. @_@

[@alula563]

Would probably get more money than the prize pool

[@FGZPYR]

now that would be kinda epic

[@salamandress]

Seriously, how do they have so much money for ads?? They're fucking everywhere.

[@Tibasu]

@@salamandress It's a good game and a gacha game, which runs events that are sometimes focused on people who spend tons of money on gacha games, like summon rush events, rewarding people who summon the most champs, extra points if they're epic or legendary, within a 2 day time frame. Look up Darth Microtransaction, a youtuber/streamer who is very vocal about how much he spent on Raid. He's said many times he spent over 8k+ at this point and he's not even in the top spenders

[@UltimaKeyMaster]

"This video is sponsored by-" *sigh* Go on...say it... "Kritikal Reboot." ..............Oh it's not Raid. Okay.

[@oceanwavesandcocaine1129]

UltimaKeyMaster still as bad

[@UltimaKeyMaster]

@@oceanwavesandcocaine1129 It's visual variety than the same thing 50 thousand times at least.

[@ryry..]

Kritika*

[@yuridied6102]

I got a raid shadow legends ad when he said kritikal reboot

[@peanits333]

"Oh. Those moves are supposed be in there and whatnot and that guy should shutup" -Nintendo

[@Reoko77]

They really said that. I should know. My dog works for Nintendo.

[@somedumb4450]

Reoko WaIt ReAlLy?

[@small_SHOT]

Aren’t dogs supposed to work for Nintendo? Isn’t that normal?

[@somedumb4450]

ding dong no.

[@small_SHOT]

@Stupid Jojo fan huh

[@FallenHeartBeat]

"Pichu kid" as the region came to know him as, was actually a really close friend of mine. it was only until after I moved out of the region that he started using his own modded version of the game to beat people. Something to know about him was that he suffered really bad depression and other mental things that I dont want to talk about publicly. He wasn't a bad kid, but he thought melee was like the only thing he had going for him. The funny thing was that he was actually getting really good with fox but not at the level that he could beat people who were on the PR. Anyways, if you were wondering, he would always suggest that people played on his setup because he claimed "hey I want to record our set so that I can upload it to youtube or study my vods and most people would agree with it. this is how he got away with getting onto his own cheated version of the game. And he was beating alot of people. but he never cheated against the number one in the region (being 4% a puff main who remained at the top for years of NEOH) because he knew that, in his own words "noone would believe that I could beat him with pichu". Kind of crazy stuff man, I believe he also gave back (was forced to) alot of the money that he won from these local tournaments as well as recieved a lifetime ban

[@snuggie1849]

If thats what happened thats crazy

[@Kevin-vn4oq]

Sad how depression can be used as an excuse for being a dickhead

[@Kool212]

@@Kevin-vn4oq Not really, it just explains how he got to that point. Untreated mental illness is a serious problem.

[@TheGabbia]

@@Kevin-vn4oq sad how still to this day people doesn't understand That depression is a mental illness and not just sadness...

[@Reoko77]

Huh. I wonder whatever happened to that kid and whats he doing nowadays.

[@nobodygoodfr9556]

Dan Salvato, creator of Doki Doki Literature Club, was once a Melee youtuber. What a timeline.

[@ahontucan4808]

Corpse Senpai He used to work on Project M

[@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034]

@@ahontucan4808 what a fucking timeline

[@earltan7067]

Imagine Monika was released as the 6th DLC

[@Nightcaat]

He has made: * Mods for Melee * Mods for Brawl * Mods for Twitch * Doki Doki Literature Club! What the heck.

[@mubbsyspeedruns]

@@Nightcaat Don't forget he made frankerfacez too, probably the largest emote addon for twitch.

[@mrevilducky]

Come round the campfire children Listen to Grandpa Zero tell Smash stories from ye olden days If we're lucky maybe he'll rave dance at the end

[@zethyr8833]

Petition to make Zero a uni professor for Smash History 200

[@dannydanggang1675]

@@zethyr8833 petition for an actual smash bros school for all ages

[@lordlarac]

@@dannydanggang1675 that would be so cool, learning strategy and tech and u would do English tests on the different keywords

[@darkyz8538]

The poor children

[@tunok3874]

maybe if you're lucky he'll touch you

[@KamonXV]

A skilled hacker can beat any melee community

[@Pmu_Sh0wd0wn]

But what if the melee community plays roy ?

[@Lion_chir]

A skilled Roy can beat any hacker

[@karisasani7006]

@@Lion_chir Unless the hacker removes their characters hitbox

[@dylanfagle3409]

@@karisasani7006 or their own hurtbox

[@tanderk1059]

Oh Hey! A skilled hacker is rare and basically nothing can beat them, depending on the hacks they use.

[@truecreation8803]

Sakurai: *doesn't buff character* Hacker: Fine, I'll do it myself

[@marijnvdkant2]

Damn bro been losing alot of weight man keep it up man Nice video btw

[@avibenhaim3905]

marijn kant right?

[@marijnvdkant2]

@@avibenhaim3905 right what?

[@avibenhaim3905]

marijn kant he’s been losing weight, I was agreeing

[@ShebbaYoung]

he needs to shave though

[@avibenhaim3905]

Shebba yea ok that’s fair

[@jordanlutz8307]

Zero out here cheating on Raid Shadow Legends.

[@wakkaseta8351]

*"Overall the Melee community is very accepting and trusting"* Well that article's credibility just sank like a rock.

[@demarkus4566]

Lol, are they in a parallel universe, because melee players are probably the most toxic at of all the smash community's, and there not accepting of new comers, like hbox, honestly that part of the article is a lie.

[@astraycat6668]

Melee Community: “Wavedashing is illegal!” Nintendo: *”Working as intended.”*

[@Kanethedragon]

Melee Samus with Super Wavedashing and elongated grab: “I can’t believe it’s not cheating”. Much like Ishuzoku Reviewers: “I cant believe it’s not hentai.”

[@Bacchus325]

The closest I've had to playing against a cheater is this Zelda main who insisted we play local multiplayer for our set instead of just pairing his joy-cons. So we had to play with input lag that he was used to but I had to adjust to. So I camped his ass out.

[@fredhuang6436]

Next video: *INFANT CHEATS AND WINS EVO*

[@markomanx]

I mean, there was a child that beat Ken at Evo once....

[@MilkFroze]

If there's anything JoJo has taught me, it's that it's not cheating if you don't get caught. Be big bræn

YES YES YES

[@grilldtoazt330]

Ok D'arby

[@devilguysadboi5587]

The wise words of a gambler

[@Reoko77]

*Oh my god...* Faceplam

[@nathanb5579]

👎

[@Walker-ie8dm]

Thumbnail: Pichu Player cheats by changing game files Me: *You don't need to do that you're playing Pichu* Melee: *tears paper* Are you sure about that?

[@MrBlueSky1293]

I look forward to the day Zero says “Today’s episode is sponsored by Nintendo! WHOOO”

[@user-vp4zt1cf3d]

I was expecting the sponsor to be Raid Shadow Legends lmao

[@pixelarticuno1636]

That or Nord VPN.

[@StickMaster500]

This dude’s trying to make Ultimate Pichu into a real thing

[@DirtDude117]

Zero, just wanted to say I haven't watched yours or any Smash videos in awhile but you look a lot healthier and I just wanted to give you props for it

[@maplesyruppppp]

The problem: Pichu is a low tier in Melee. The solution: Buff Pichu yourself.

[@Daionor]

The whole pound thing, like, it's not really his fault that he couldn't pay the winners, he got screwed over by external factors.

[@nox5237]

The man who made a game that featured one of the characters editing the game files made a video on a melee player cheating by editing the game files. Nice.

[@bloodofphantoms]

indeed

[@sir_smilesalot7589]

Honestly, mad props for this guy being so secretive and putting in so much effort to make this work. Ik its shitty that he did this for money most of the time, but the fact he did so much to make this work is kind of hilarious.

[@sir_smilesalot7589]

@@wowftw120 i wanna meet this guy, he seems like a legend.

[@hydroidprime_2897]

@@sir_smilesalot7589 he's still active in some melee discords, actually. He's in the Forbidden Character R&D and Melee Pichu servers. He's reformed and is a way better person now.

[@sir_smilesalot7589]

@@hydroidprime_2897 wow that really makes my day, thank you for telling me!

[@theinktician]

@@sir_smilesalot7589 who chaos? He's not exactly hiding. Just changed his tag

[@chromberries7329]

Justin Cichy lmao maybe he should've put his skills to use. could make a lot being able to do that kind of shit.

[@issasecretbuddy]

honestly, swapping controllers in doubles should be a valid move as long as you're not bumping or interfering with your oponent. it's too sick not to

[@Home_Rowed]

The files they were comparing were ISO files, meaning it's a copy of the disc, with one of them being a modified copy. So that's how they likely used it to cheat, rather than the memory card mod, they probably loaded the ISO via SD or USB on the Wii. A memory card mod might also be possible, but it's more limited in what it can do and in terms of file size, I think it's also more complex to develop.

[@JohannesBee]

6:54 "Overall, the Melee community is very accepting and trusting" Hold up

[@vertsang5424]

that's true tho, it's really kind and helpful to new players, people let you sleep in their home etc... sure there is salt about Hbox,leffen,salem,others. some disgusting moments for some players etc... but overall it's good

[@flob.1276]

Well now we know for sure they're anything but accepting

[@screweduptx512]

"Overall the Melee community is very accepting and trusting" Yea lemme call bullshit

[@AwkCrafty]

HungryBox be like.

[@prismaticpaul]

Zero talking about smash while Shantae music is playing in the background. This is what peak performance looks like.

[@ethanhethcoat3144]

Proof that Melee is an unbalanced mess: “Pichu winnin’? Yep, hacks, no doubt about it.”

[@IronicHavoc]

Every game has one really bad character. And in the case of melee that was kind of the intention for Pichu. Regardless I guarantee there is an equivalently bad character in pretty much every smash game - none of them are THAT balanced. Also did you watch the video? No one caught this guy for a while even though there was footage uploaded online - they eventually noticed specific move differences to find out he was cheating. It wasn't simply the fact he was winning with Pichi.

[@jdrmanmusiqking]

Lol Melee white knight clowns like yourself are sensitive idiots. Dude cant make one innocuous joke about your god without melee filth getting up in arms. Son, melee is the most unbalanced smash in existence even moreso than Smash 4. Like your god i mean game all you want just keep it 100% is all

[@steeltype2031]

well, you know, pichu sucks in its own game as well lul

[@PoorStargazer]

You're an unbalanced mess

[@King_Kitsune]

@@IronicHavoc Bowser in Melee sucked too. He couldn't do crap in competitive. I'm glad how far he's come since that game

[@davidvkimball]

07:54 yooooooo that's me!!!

[@Jlaubster]

not gunna lie back in highschool me and my buds played a lot, i mean a lot of project M. I had one friend who didn't like to play as much because he wasn't as good as everyone else. So to get him to play more thats what I did. I modded his character yoshi and just made everythign about yoshi slightly better. My other friends were raging and were so mad because he was beating all of them in 1v1s it was kinda amazing

[@ruben.worthington2249]

Can't say I approve of it, but mad, mad props to helping a brother out about that. As that kid who wouldn't play because they're not as good, (and someone who likes to see how games work in general) having someone change that for me behind the scenes would be so sweet. And great work actually making that work out with the copy.

[@CallumTheCalamity]

Thankfully they added this to ultimate

[@sum11111]

I hope you told him beforehand. No feeling is worse than suddenly doing well and then realizing it's because you had an advantage like that

[@Jlaubster]

@@sum11111 oh ya he was definitely in on it.

[@rodet1331]

you are a good person man bless you

[@Celestatiune]

The controller switch being banned surprises me given how averse Smash has been to banning anything. You can only do it (for free) between stocks and you need to limit your picks to what both players can play

[@seriouslyleah3987]

Honestly when you're far in a tournament its not worth it to cheat at that point

[@stormycd392]

Or ever really.

[@Thelowestofthelowtiers]

Hear me out for a sec: I hate the fact the dude cheated and I'm glad he got caught. Still,I wish there could be a universal patch to the game to buff some of the low tier/unviable characters in the game. Wouldn't it be fun to see the shake up in Melee by making those characters viable and see new players join the fray? Nothing against the Gods,but I want to see something new for once,but that's just me. Can't wait to get yelled at by a Melee player after I post this.

[@DarkLink1996.]

The EU version of the game actually had some balance chances IIRC

[@user-qt8yh5np8b]

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[@7PlayingWithFire7]

I agree 100%. Make Link viable!

[@frogchip6484]

@@7PlayingWithFire7 Young Link is viable as a Jigglypuff counter, if that helps.

[@PoorStargazer]

There are melee mods that give low and mid tiers a fighting chance

[@nahtatrolI]

What was impressive is not how he modded the game, not how he covered it up so well, but the fact he took time to learn Pichu.

[@PichusBlueberryPies]

In my opinion, people should at least try the character, even if they aren’t for their play style.

[@fernank017]

How is it planks fault that the melee players literally broke the rules of the hotel.

[@vertsang5424]

because he is the one who organised it that way. he invited many players and only gave them a few rooms for all of them. that's on him (of course without it, the tournament could not exist)

[@fernank017]

@@vertsang5424 Disagree. People were cheaping out. There were many unused rooms - which is why he couldn't fill the quota.

[@ChimpRevolution]

@@vertsang5424 wait did he book the rooms or did the smash players boom the rooms and decided they would stuff 20 people there.

[@vertsang5424]

@@ChimpRevolution well, the one who book the rooms has to pay so planks should be the one who did it

[@fernank017]

Vibeguy1052 the smash players had to use the hotel rooms. They had to meet a minimum quota to use the venue. The TO was charged extra because the smash players shared rooms instead of filling them.

[@camokazi1313]

Now I can say it without guilt: Zero looks like morning breath in human form.

[@Ocara115]

What about Mike Haze?

[@canogaparque818]

What he do?

[@themondegod4014]

While you touch your glasses "Well I guess I will have to use my undercard *touches glasses* I will switch controllers"

[@enygmaenigmatic8156]

The acreaming or the controller issue

[@kazukid8027]

Ocara115 or the droid attack on the Wookiee’s? Sorry I just watched rise of sky walker and I’m in a Star Wars mood lol.

[@BasementSkeleton97]

@@canogaparque818 During a Brawl money match against Hylian(who played ice climbers), Mike would scream in his face everytime he got grabbed to make Hylian drop his chain grab combos. Mike then proceeds to WIN the money match

[@v_0k4l]

"The Melee community is very accepting and trusting" Also smash community: disses hungrybox for playing jigglypuff

[@squid-boy4178]

LOL imagine expertly and secretly buffing a character in in a game with a secret cheat code type thing to win a prize pool of like 80$

[@j2dragon109]

Squid-Boy It probably didn’t take much work tbh.

[@menacing_egg2732]

J2Dragon yea but still, only $80? Kinda stupid ngl

[@j2dragon109]

Menacing_egg273 It definitely takes less effort then training until you’re good enough to win.

[@abomiyeti7440]

Menacing_egg273 pretty sure he did it more for the brag rights he would get more so than the money

[@moepop9997]

The image shown that was "hard evidence" is a checksum, since the two strings of values are different it means that the files are different.

[@d.j6578]

I thought ZeRo would of mentioned that one tournament in smash 4 when the launch rate was at 0.9 for some reason

[@JustMatchmaking]

Well that wasn't necessarily cheating, it was just a dumb screwup.

[@Nkodtb]

*Raid Shadow Legends leaves the chat.*

[@Karolfornia]

State of survival is the realshit

[@ryry..]

*Kritika joins the chat*

[@S1lv3r1]

When I heard "today's video is sponsored by" I just about had a heart attack because I thought Raid shadow legends had gotten its greedy hands on you.

[@afterlyte7293]

Just a cool little fact, the MD5 Checksum value is like a unique ID for the file, meaning that the files being different shows that changes were made to it. The MD5 algorithm is also known to have extreme security vulnerabilities which probably contributed to them being able to change the game files

[@alexanderminde7709]

When Sakurai doesn't buff your character Melee player: fine I'll do it myself

[@UltimaKeyMaster]

*Pichu slowly walked into the room...*

[@chrisscout17]

Oh no.....

[@SporadicV2]

Fun Fact I learned recently about Sayori’s death. She didn’t hang herself properly so she was left to asphyxiate. Her survival instincts kicked in and she clawed at the rope. If you look at the picture of her suicide her fingers are bloody because she tried to free herself.

[@kindajustvibin]

Ganondorf screamed DORIYAH and killed pichu

[@mvb-vampire6391]

I personally main Pichu due to my love of the character. Guess I gotta start getting into competitive melee now. Good Video Zer0. You’ve inspired me to get off my lazy butt and do things outside of being a viewer.

[@plapin3538]

VampDotEXE - Welcome to smash competitive scene, how tough are you? >> How tough am I? I main pichu in smash bros. >>Yeah, so? >>In Melee... >>Right this way.

[@takehirotaniguchi6271]

Don't do that to yourself. It's not worth it.

[@snuggie1849]

Of course you main pichu killua, u use lightning nen lol

[@Tom-jw7ii]

“poor man’s poor man’s fox”

[@plapin3538]

Modify with the same code they used for prepatched pichu in ultimate.

[@-mazio-9440]

This is seriously annoying me, what’s the background music at 6:03, I’ve completely forgotten, I think it’s Shantae but I cannot remember for the love of me

[@emperorhoopa]

Yeh it’s from Half Genie Hero :3

[@bladewolfvii6383]

Rainbow is right

[@conquerorkarma3087]

Mermaid Falls

[@-mazio-9440]

Alright thanks

[@georgeheld1901]

Plot twist: ZeRo has been cheating this whole time

[@AscendedBeyond]

Splitting is something that happens in Magic all the time in local stores. The stakes are alot smaller though its like 1st is like 5-6 booster packs and 2nd is like 2 packs you can split it 4-4 or 3-3 depending on the payout.

[@emnersonn]

Yeah

[@kuru-chan6644]

It's actually okay to split even at high level magic as long as it's done in a certain way, like at a grand prix or even in the last swiss round of the pro tour

[@theWONDERofWiiU]

I don't understand why people would split though. What's the benefit to the person who came in 1st? They would lose out on some money/packs/etc when they could just win and take the whole first prize.

[@AscendedBeyond]

@@theWONDERofWiiU theres a multitude of reasons but you usually offer or are offered before you actually play the match. So if it's a friend or the prize disparity is large you essentially pool the first and second prize together and split it in half. All your really doing is minimizing prize loss and bad feelings. You can take the risk and refuse the split but if you lose you end up with alot less.

[@kuru-chan6644]

@@theWONDERofWiiU Adding on to this, personally when it's locals I look around the room and get an idea of what everyone is playing, I offer to split/accept a split if I believe I'm unfavored

[@XxILikePie03]

"...And then the guy shut up" Those guys didn't watch any anime. Friends are rivals so beat them at your competition.

[@randomvids5225]

Why does zero's mustache look like two dogs kissing?

[@dizzyheads]

Thanks Now I can't unsee it

[@jonathanrobinson8926]

Oops

[@masterofadapting]

Because he entrapped the souls of two dogs, and forced them into his mustache to eternally live in torment.

[@thatspoonybard8013]

DAMMIT

[@jonaherazo7326]

@extreme depression your name makes that comment 10 times better

[@Kenrog2]

Zero: Here are some players cheating in smash bro’s tournaments Also Zero: Cheating in online tournament with piranha plant

[@Home_Rowed]

Also I checked Dan Salvato's video, and this was 3 years ago, wow.

[@ph1lny3]

Genesis 2 was also rife with some shade: When I was there, the then PR'd Brawl Pika player in my region (Brick) got screwed over in pools because M2K sandbagged against a smasher named Sade, which almost eliminated Brick. M2K picked Ganon and basically let Sade win. On top of that, one of the TOs for Genesis 2 almost ran off with the entire prize pool of money (a melee Sheik player who coincidentally moved to my region after his ban). The other TOs caught him though, and he got banned.

[@bleuu9554]

Finally, a sponsor that isn”t Raid Shadow Legends!

[@justinp9170]

It's a decent game, but it runs along that Pay2Win line way too close for my liking. I'd still recommend to try it out though

[@hydroidprime_2897]

The culprit of this whole incident has reformed and is a way better person now. He is still regularly active in some Melee discords, one of which I'm a moderator in. He's also been unbanned from his local tournaments.

[@maxipack2345]

Rat mains are rats

[@Mini-vc7ut]

100%

[@darksyde0418]

@PixelLightShow *Laughs in Meta knight and ice climbers main*

[@jadetealaaron2003]

Yoshi Mains are funny. But most people kinda hate them :'(

[@darksyde0418]

@@jadetealaaron2003 I love Yoshi mains. No homo

[@plapin3538]

AaronBoi 16 - Yoshi mains put in milk before the cereal.

[@beleemoi4433]

That wasnt just any wikipedia page, it was a smashwiki page that I helped contribute to

[@Raichukage]

ZeRo needs a Head & Shoulders sponsorship

[@nicodemuslee]

Jessie Jurado aye chillllllllll u dont gotta do him like dat

[@Raichukage]

i.i.i.i IV relax

[@nicodemuslee]

Jessie Jurado u relax

[@nicodemuslee]

Jessie Jurado bitch

[@Raichukage]

i.i.i.i IV triggered much? You’re saltier than ZeRo’s shirt

[@woodledoodle7961]

When you make your Preferred Rules give you an advantage

[@jen1447]

“Cheater!” - Wario Bros

[@hanezutchins2786]

"You're lousy!"~Waluigi (Mario Party 6)

[@shrilleth]

The fact that it would be so easy to do... Like, just increase the knockback a tiny bit, decrease the lag by 1 or 2 frames, maybe even mess with the RNG of moves like Misfire or Turnip Pull, increasing the chance by a 1 or 2%. Project M as well, there’s no stopping that with PM.

[@kjellenproductions7349]

Didn't Leffen consider playing Pichu at one point? Is this slandering?

[@Mobeku]

In ultimate

[@stygiann]

Zero, todos los días veo tus vídeos mientras trabajo. Muchas gracias wn. Por favor no dejes de subir entre semanas o no tendré a nadie a quien ver. :(

[@JoseELeon]

I just came here after 10 months, man.... it feels wierd

[@unidentified4122]

This is probably the first time I've seen a game ad and I'm genuinely interested in it, thanks zero!

[@bugsterlincapoop7900]

Assigning the cheat in player 4 already kinda gave it away lol if it was in player 2 maybe it wouldn't have been too obvious

[@chromberries7329]

Bugster Lincapoop yeah u kind of right

[@Fiddleron]

"This is part of the game code or something"... Dude, it's a hash function comparing his modded ISO, and the retail melee ISO. They are obviously not the same hash, so there is a modification present.

[@Bongobongobongobongo]

Anyone else watching old videos to remember the good times? No, just me? Ok :'(

[@PotatoTheProgrammer]

Idea to get *others* banned: instead of buffing yourself, buff your opponent You might lose, but honestly getting them banned is a waaaay better reward in my opinion because they cant play in tournaments anymore

[@-mazio-9440]

Oh how the mighty have fallen, and I’m not referring to the video, I’m referring to you ZeRo

[@mysterymeat6460]

Saw this title and was like, "Oh, I remember reading about that."

[@justwamit9570]

Bruh a sponsor that actually made me want to check it out... that’s the first

[@Nmac-]

I mean What limits would people NOT go for money.

[@Omar-cw5gg]

Outro song?

[@chaz8230]

Mor Ardain~ Roaming the Wastes

[@pilot9266]

your mum B)

[@tyronewannasit7189]

danganronpa v3 scrum debate

[@AsakuraEX]

Ribbit _ _ Seriously thought it was Xenoblade Music? Didn’t watch the video I see

[@torchytopfrag]

Narukami鳴上 it is xenoblade

[@belmontzar]

It is super cool that the guy from the one tournament was eventually able to give the players their owed money.

[@brokenbranches8412]

When you’re so bad you have to hack to win

[@videogameadventure]

Lol! Right! I guess that dude suck big time. 😂

[@YangyChaddyDad]

You're not wrong but it's pichu

[@yehoshuas.6917]

Uh...most people aren't in the 1%. Tournaments are specifically catered to gatherings of the best players. But yeah, a fake win just doesn't sound fun.

[@heroofwinds1251]

Or just don't play

[@jdizzle4522]

J Puff phichu is good and ultimate

[@Tredenix]

I kinda want to see a side doubles tournament where the players swap controllers now, maybe couple it with stage morph or something

[@HowardAltEisen]

I wish the controller swapping in doubles wasn't banned. That sounds like a super legit strat tbqh

[@yowza9638]

I was legit just about to make a joke about how the Blue Goggles alt was the best alt and was the true source of the rogue Pichu's power. Then 6:00 happened...

[@Snowballsage]

Wait, the maker of ddlc plays smash?!

[@contemplation_jpg]

Yeah, he's also a yoshi's story speedrunner!

[@ameersher]

His team made project m

[@vish5942]

he made multiple mods for melee and brawl that you probably know like project m he had a part in that i'm not sure how big but he worked on pm as well as silly melee if i'm correct

[@LolLol-wl8kf]

I was seriously surprised by this lol

[@runterranger7398]

yeah toby fox also played melee way back then apparently.

[@usern4metak3ns]

I've always wondered about this topic because there's very little to no protection against cheating at smash tournaments. Like the thing that made me think is at most tournaments you can bring your own controller. Which could be modified or be able to inject code into the console. Also you're allowed to bring your own beverages which could be laced with stimulants or something. So you could have players high on coke and stuff like that who basically had bullet time during tournaments. There's no real regulation against these possibilities and I just want to know which players would do this.

[@zenthergaming8147]

Nice sponsorship ✌️

[@floofzykitty5072]

Also, according to steam reviews, it's a pretty decent game.

[@mctrapster]

@SpoobyHD whenever someone gets sponsored by raid shadow legends you can see their soul die a little

[@kingkhalil0015]

The mods are basically equivalent to performance enhancing drugs in professional sports

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

People have used performance enhancing drugs/substances in E-sports though. Not just digital changes. Players would take amphetamines. ADHD medication (and other stimulants) because that stuff normally makes people without ADHD super hyper and aware. It can become addictive and dangerous though. But it was a problem specifically in the CS:GO scene because players would be able to react quicker and more accurately by taking a drug. A young 17ish year old player on drugs would be able to react and shoot in like half the time a 25 year old player could if they didn't take drugs.

[@simanolastname2399]

Video starts at 0:43

[@BugzyHamster]

Tyyy

[@nathanb5579]

Im not a big smash fan at all, but for some reason i love your videos. Maybe it's because it's a community i never knew anything about and the way you package and present it makes it interesting and fun to learn about for an outsider. Appeciate that 👍

[@ceejay607]

I love how it’s specified that it’s a Pichu player

[@im_Spade_]

Lol I love the DJ Nintendo/The Moon strategy 😂

[@UniversaIs713]

no ally and captainzack talk?

[@girlfriendgamer4562]

oooh what happened between them?

[@Atlos769]

@@girlfriendgamer4562 match rigging

[@hoesmad3054]

@@girlfriendgamer4562 Oh god... it's better if you don't know.

[@Atlos769]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4PXnYKwqp2caZo

[@girlfriendgamer4562]

@@hoesmad3054 Oh man, I read up on it. I went from "so what?" to "WHAT THE HELL?!" so fast.

[@PineappleBoiii]

One of my friends was in an Ultimate tourney the other day, and lost to a cheater. His opponent turned on some kind of handicap when he went to the washroom, so a Power Geyser from Terry didn't kill at 110%. Wasn't caught.

[@derodainfamous]

Oof