Playing the bad guy is hard

Being the bad guy is harder than it sounds
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[@JoeBob79569]

Rowan: _"I tried being a bad guy, couldn't do it."_ Also Rowan, living vicariously through Ben: _"let's go kill his son."_

[@epicstyle1000]

Rowan knows the quest rewards are better for being good, plus bad rep makes things expensive

[@LyrictheFilthyCasual]

Yeah when Roawn said he couldn't do it, i said "A LIKELY STORY ROWAN, IF THAT IS YOUR REAL NAME"

[@ashleycardenas9689]

@@LyrictheFilthyCasual 😂😂😂 couldn’t have said it better myself lol

[@CalvinJary]

Then you meet people in real life who are WAY more evil than this and they take delight and pleasure in it.

[@micahphilson]

If Rowan says he couldn't pull off being the bad guy, that's a good sign you should listen!

[@4wheal]

Greg being disappointed is the worst emotional damage you can receive

[@gigajesus5047]

And then he snap!

[@onosemestefano9958]

Right???

[@Daemonik]

Greg took the Stephen He's Dad's Masterclass in Emotional Damage! If Ben tries to steal from Greg again, it will be time for the slipper to send him to Jesus!

[@DestroyerGillard]

Ye

[@DestroyerGillard]

YOU BETTER NOT MENTION HOW MANY LIKES YOU HAVE

[@iambatsmurfette7194]

Plot twist - Rowan never actually gave up playing as the bad guy. In fact, he's currently excelling at it

[@michaellang6627]

he's pulling a Palpatine.

[@milktea484]

this must be the prelude of how they became the muggers.

[@le9038]

success from suffering

[@max-abobea]

He beat the fisherman

[@MaxwellAntenor01]

Man!! It’s the Best plot! Hahahaha

[@RyuzakiHirokai]

Ben: I've always been the good guy Also Ben: Killing NPC for armor, leaving ten children to starve, always skipping dialogue, attempting to kill Baelin...

[@alexgutierrez2783]

ah haaaa, that is future Ben after he became desensitized

[@alexgutierrez2783]

this is an origin story

[@RW77777777]

always skipping dialogue!?!?!

[@dwex39]

and killed a lot of puppi i mean vermin

[@scarletrose8766]

So is this how he ends up being a mugger?

[@baldmonkk]

Gregs disappointment hits right through your soul. And Rowan enjoying Ben's misery and encouraging to do the evil deed adds so much to the video.

[@formdusktilldeath]

He hit him with the mother of all mother lines:”I’m not mad, just… disappointed…” Ah it hurts!!!

[@flashrogue4376]

Achievement unlocked: Greg will remember this.

[@Krarilotus]

The smiling on Rowans face throughout the whole encounters, it looks so real :D

[@worldiefeard8396]

Plot twist, Rowan already mastered the Bad guy path, he just lied about it at the start (Isn't that what a bad guy would do?)

[@Teampegleg]

@@worldiefeard8396 He is so evil that it bugged out and shows positive alignment.

[@RockZerr]

i love rowans character. he acts so neutral and harmless at first just wanting to help his mate playing his role a little but ends up being a manipulative psychopath

[@usmh]

Oh, he's just teaching his buddy a tough lesson.

[@HummelJaeger]

Or, Rowan never stopped playing the bad guy and is doing one of the bad guy quest lines. :-)

[@GuardianGamerX]

Chaotic neutrality

[@rileymclaughlin4831]

Subsequent steps: report the murder to the Guard, wait for bounty to be posted, PvP, collect reward. No one else knows who the killer was, so no competition.

[@jordanfelt5978]

I don't think so my guy. I feel like he was egging him on a little bit to make him feel horrible about it on purpose. After all, the lessons that you learn the most from are the hard learned ones.

[@gardenshed6043]

I like how stealing from Greg caused the same amount of morality loss as murder.

[@ASalazarMX]

Because Greg will remmeber that. The father won't because he's dead ha ha.

[@adamb89]

Well I mean in Skyrim the bounty for murder is the same as the price of a horse, so...

[@Duchess_Van_Hoof]

Ever played Fallout 3? Steal a fork by accident, or murder someone? Eh, what'd the difference.

[@CodeguruX]

Why didn't he go buy that guy's kid? It could have been a hot daughter to murder. I mean rape. What's the fun part about evil choices again? Oh yeah, the rape.

[@OnyxCyanide]

Please Greg just call the guards... Just don't look at me like that anymore... 😭

[@ArmoredxTiger]

That older gentleman played his part so well! I felt so bad for his character when he said my son will have no one left. 😭

[@ricebeansrockroll882]

Same

[@ameyskulkarni]

Isn't he Rowan's father in the playtech videos?

[@joshx420]

​@ameyskulkarni yeah he plays the part of rowans dad in the bored series

[@SukiMaRa5226]

Bro same,I literally almost cried

[@ENCLAVEDivisionX]

It's ok. There going for his son right now 😂

[@jase_allen]

I love how much Rowan is enjoying Ben's misery. He's found a way to act like a bad guy without having to play an official bad guy.

[@Gadzinisko]

Bad guy by proxy.

[@alioop3306]

The true villain is always a puppet master.

[@tomsule]

I would love to see this approach in games .)

[@obitusbam1885]

Also better for his rep. Prices will go crazy high after that.

[@matluoma9195]

A bad guy enabler…

[@Accurize2]

Hamish sure was quick to choose to sell a child to solve his everyday problem…. He’s truly mastered the bad guy character!

[@chunkymunkey9182]

Im starting to wonder...Hamish keeps having children...sells for gold...repeats...im seeing a problematic situation here lol🤣

[@MyName-Jeff]

@@chunkymunkey9182 where you see a problematic situation, others see a market opportunity

[@Ryuchitoran]

@@MyName-Jeff Exactly. He's just taking advantage of a renewable resource.

[@jarrod752]

After a few episodes back, Aren't they all _Bodger's_ to begin with?

[@Under-Kaoz]

​@@MyName-Jeff like this isn't even a joke. That's how a lot of the world still seems the benefit of having children and prior to 150-200 years ago that's how even most of the west even seen em.

[@MariuigiKhed]

I like how Rowan is "Yeah, being the bad guy isn't all that fun" yet he's having the time of his life by forcing Ben into evildoing

[@darwinxavier3516]

Sometimes it's more fun to be an enabler.

[@Krocxigor]

It is easy to be evil when YOU do NOT get the faction hits.

[@aratros2766]

I read "evolving" at first lol

[@jenniferhanses]

Ah, but you see, Rowan is actually trying to be the good guy by guiding Ben to see how awful his actions are. No guilt, only fun in emotionally torturing a human being for the good of humanity.

[@williamorizetti8427]

Nah Rowan is secretly a demon lord he's been planting the seed for months to get Ben to commit acts of crime

[@Vmar98]

That "I forgive you" actually hit me like a truck

[@AlexandreLucianoCarneiroPerusi]

It remembers me of someone... Oh, It's Jesus. He suffered because of Our sin, and then He is still willing to forgive, do you beleive Him?

[@Vulkanius95]

Same Bro 😢

[@elcuentahistorias6781]

​@@AlexandreLucianoCarneiroPerusi nah I don't feel like having an imaginary friend I'm too old for that

[@AlluringLuna]

​@@AlexandreLucianoCarneiroPerusi Nah lol

[@TheDeppertLasseVogt]

They just HAD to find the nicest, sweetest man for that last bit to be the victim, hadn't they? Watching that was heartbreaking.

[@rdiv]

It would be super easy to be a bad guy in the game for a person that~ Skip skip skip skip. From their skipping in-game dialogue sketches. lol . . . . From an aspect, someone that skips in-game dialogue is already very "bad guy" or evil, because he clearly throws all the effort + money the game developers went through to type and voice over(hire voice actors) for the said dialogue. lol

[@shrujanamsyama9940]

@@rdiv If you skip, how would you know what quest you have to do? For example, how would you know that the last NPC had a reward if you didn't hear that he will reward you?

[@adrianking7067]

Man be the bad guy is easy free stuff yea!!!!!

[@aka-47k]

@@shrujanamsyama9940 the guy that skips all the dialogue is the guy that plays the 3rd twink and did the story alrd fully 2 times so he alrd knows everything each convo each quest ect.

[@adambarclay5950]

Why till the midget giant?

[@WastingSanityGR]

Rowan was clearly more eager to encourage bad guy activities then Ben was to do them.

[@Neer3D]

The real bad guy.

[@anna_in_aotearoa3166]

It's double-dosing schadenfreude - Rowan enjoying both the suffering of the victims AND how much Ben wasn't having fun! 😅

[@FaultAndDakranon]

@@anna_in_aotearoa3166 It's the deeper meaning of the title. Rowan is the bad guy all along (directed by MNight Shame-Alan)

[@Tezca-Coatl]

The plot THICKENS!

[@Dargoneth]

Sure, lay back and eating popcorn is always easier

[@Oblivious.Amnesia]

"Yay! Bad guy! Pretty fun, right?" "Did you wanna go kill his son?" Those lines were delivered with such cheer that I'm not sure if I should be laughing or afraid.

[@VivaLaDirtLeague]

Be afraid. Be very afraid. Rowan is coming for you

[@Kaliel213]

bro rowan is coming after you, you gonna become a red shirt💀

[@damyr]

@@VivaLaDirtLeague I'd be afraid of Rowan in the "Bored" series... which you guys totally neglected since you've become, let's just call it, financially solvent.

[@phoenix0153]

@@VivaLaDirtLeague Don't you tempt with with a good time!

[@Rayvah]

That was my favorite part 😂

[@demoonmunkay]

Me; “I’m gonna do an evil play through.” Also me 15 minutes later; “being bad is not nice. I want people to like me.”

[@charlottehenthorn]

Same! I bought overlord and couldn't even finish it. All those enslaved people were making me sad 😢

[@verti3213]

It's nothing more than herd mentality.

[@zelp8254]

Very much the same, lol! I just can’t do that to even digital people, let alone real. Hell, I like to max out charisma/dialogue stats in games so I can get around a conflict without a fight, usually by talking something through.

[@lordfrostwind3151]

Not everyone made it as fun as Bioware, Renegade interrupts are glorious. Even I drew the line at Bioshock, can't be evil to kids, even in videogames.

[@TeenPerspektiva]

​@@verti3213you sound kinda insane with that. Do you also believe there is no such thing as good or bad?

[@Anvilshock]

Ben is so evil, he didn't even loot the guy, making his death even more pointless and purposeless. So proud of him.

[@LootFragg]

Lol. Loots the gold from the corpse, some morality restored.

[@rafaelvenzmirabel404]

Dude he's on auto loot

[@gilgameshcraos1260]

lol joke's on you, rowan looted the guy instead because he lied and actually is an evil character atm, he's just mastered his craft and is committing crimes through ben

[@Redhotquagmire]

​@@gilgameshcraos1260holy shit.. Giga-Evil Chad!!

[@marcelogurgeldasilva4130]

You should read Crime & Punishment... :)

[@TheDemigans]

I love how he’s saying it was too hard for him, but he guides someone else in evil like a pro with a smile.

[@velorama-tkkn]

That's because he was lying...

[@cmdrdestr0id915]

He never mentioned whether it was from a moral or gameplay perspective

[@TheDemigans]

@@cmdrdestr0id915 he seems to be well aware of how to use gameplay to get money off of people, and what restrictions there are or aren’t…

[@josephperez2004]

It funny when bad things happen to someone else, is my guess for the mentality.

[@orrthehunter]

@@cmdrdestr0id915 probably gameplay perspective since by killing certain NPCs he may have lost a lot of access for certain things that will make the game more easier or atleast more quests that require certain characters to be alive.

[@danawhite9823]

That guy that lost his son... He just looked like the nicest guy ever. Perfect casting.

[@robpegler6545]

His name's John Leigh. Veteran NZ actor, been doing TV and movies for decades (including one of the LotR films). I laughed when I saw it was him, because it IS perfect casting. If you need the audience to instantly like and sympathize with a character, you literally couldn't ask for anyone better.

[@danawhite9823]

@@robpegler6545 I just wanted to hug the poor guy. :D

[@onbushshifting4000]

His last line was so perfect too

[@CaseyWalters-vh2tj]

"Do you want to go kill his son?" Great line to end it

[@joesretrostuff]

@@robpegler6545Ooo where’s he in LotR?

[@matthiashornke1051]

Rowan, claims he can't play as a badguy. Also Rowan, enjoys tormenting the shit out of Ben.

[@ShiningDarknes]

Well, yeah I mean it isn’t his game he’s ruining. Watching others make shit decisions is fun sometime, especially if you had done your research beforehand on what to do to be a bad guy only to find you don’t like the things it makes you feel from doing it. Vicarious evil is the best way to experience evil.

[@YumLemmingKebabs]

Rowan couldn't be the bad guy himself but traumatizing his friend by encouraging them to do it is a whole other story.😂

[@kalanivernon7273]

And this is how Rowan got to be a bad guy while maintaining a heroic character.... Being a sociopath and enthusiastically enjoying your friend's suffering IRL is much more rewarding as a bad guy am I right? lol

[@TheOrian34]

Being the bad guy means not showing you are, so rowan managed it perfectly.

[@KabelkowyJoe]

@@TheOrian34 That makes sense, Ben cried, for Rowan it was like "oh dont be a baby" just smile it saved you time, and move on

[@KabelkowyJoe]

@@TheOrian34 Although Ben would be bit better for that role "just kill him, like a normal person, it's much faster" and that could become episode 1 for entire series, showing long term consequences and that actually it's not easy and it's grose, you wont make friends you work alone basically

[@Arendelft]

That old man's acting was top notch and Ben's reactions to the consequences to each of his bad deeds hit me in the feels... Being the bad guy sucks worse than vampires!

[@alexj1989]

I love the last, “I forgive you.” 😭

[@daringwolverin]

He did a great job 😂loved his "I forgive you" at the end too

[@ramzabeoulve5825]

"Old Guy" throwing shade at Greg. JK

[@Dargoneth]

I like it in Red Dead There are so many NPC aggressions there where people dont even let you ride by. I always lasso these jerks, put them on my horse and throw them into the next river.. Or lay them on train tracks.. or pull them over the ground at full gallop so they scream

[@Grabthar191]

A lot of the walk-ons they have in these skits seem to be really talented actors.

[@FrozenHare]

I love that Ben was so distraught with remorse that he didn't have the presence of mind to actually grab the reward off the old man 🍻

[@Brunosius]

I was thinking the same thing

[@acehangman617]

'+10 gold'

[@ragnarokaeon8242]

So rude. Now instead of killing him for the money, he just killed him for shits and giggles (Rowan's).

[@skyhighgh0st]

This hurts man, this really stings. As the saying goes, "There's a difference between a fool pretending to be bad, and the face of true evil. It only takes on action to tell which of these truths defines a man's character." Ben is a fool pretending to be bad, while Rowan is the face of true evil in this current scenario.

[@lordoflethargy2448]

You are saying the guy stealing, robbing and murdering an innocent for no real reason is just pretending to be bad?

[@Covid--xs3yk]

​@@lordoflethargy2448I think it's the intent that matters. Being evil for the sake of being evil and feeling bad about it isn't really as menacing as being evil for your own gain and not caring whatsoever

[@lordoflethargy2448]

@Covid--xs3yk I have to disagree strongly. To the person that is being hurt, the one who's bleeding and the ones who are tearing over him, the result, which is their death, is most hurtful. The reason behind the act is secondary.

[@SavathunSussyImpostor]

It’s just a skit about video games guys

[@minderbart1]

@@lordoflethargy2448 it really depends on which school of thought you follow here. but in this case i would argue that yes he is pretending to be bad and is doing bad acts because of that. he isn't doing it for no reason he's doing it because he thinks it's what he's supposed to do as a bad guy while also being remorseful. meanwhile the other guy is seemingly doing bad things for fun or at the very least because doesn't really care.

[@DanteYewToob]

Rowan is living out his secret dream of being a shoulder devil. Lmao He’s even got the red cape!

[@savageraccoon787]

Hahaha

[@moosedawg71]

LOL, I thought the EXACT same thing!

[@Midrealm_DM]

I was expecting a morality bar for Rowan at the end that showed he was evil all along

[@Cluesman]

that way he gets the fun without the reputation penalties

[@DlolFace]

Rowan torturing Ben by being supportive on Ben being a bad guy is amusing

[@futuriafantasia7642]

Yep, didn't know how to call it. Torturing, exactly! And he's the one having fun here😅

[@sleepinggiant4062]

And also being bad guy.

[@murray821]

Next level bad guy, sociopath 😂

[@christophersparkman]

Soooo funny!

[@TeargasHorse]

At least he didn't have to destroy an infestation... of puppies.

[@zero_chevalier]

Rowan being all supportive while egging Ben's evil streak is really a win-win. No one can say that Rowan doesn't support his friend's dream. He even enjoys it.

[@mar.s6516]

Seems it depends on dream! 😜

[@theinquisitor7191]

Rowan is the true evil fo sho.

[@rocketlaunchingshotgunguy4377]

Me doing an Evil run on any infamous game

[@MrDifferentusername]

Guess who is really the bad guy there...

[@BlissfulBluebell]

A great parallel to "what are we?" "MUGGERS!" 🤣 Rowan is such a bad influence

[@gecko2.617]

Rowan being the supreme bad guy, without making it too obvious. Coaxing Ben into a henchman and making him do all the bad deeds while Rowan has fun watching chaos ensue and misery thrive... yep, definitely a villain right there :D

[@HororKodStudio]

The father's acting after they accepted the quest was absolutely incredible. "My poor son" hit me hard.

[@tmilke1]

Go and kill the son first, then drag his body back to the father for extra "evilness". THEN kill the father

[@foxdenfinds]

@@tmilke1 glad to see there are still people without a soul :D like me :D i would do the same XD

[@MohamedSci]

He couldve come back wearing the sons armour again too

[@rosaynes7257]

@@tmilke1😱

[@RustyDust101]

​@@MohamedSciNope, do a Hannibal Lecter and wear the son's face.

[@doctorspectator8063]

That “I forgive you” at the end was absolutely brutal

[@aureliuszeta3037]

Total devastation - the pain! The second hand guilt and horror felt too real 😭

[@Andlekin]

The little "I forgive you." at the end was perfect. Packing as many emotional punches into a few seconds are you could.

[@Raynsideways]

I love how none of the NPCs got mad or called the guards. They're all just disappointed in him.

[@Meushell]

2:13 I didn’t notice before. When Greg is shaking his head on the background, his explanation point moves. That’s really detailed.

[@Kneecaptain]

greg being disappointed is the equivalent to getting yelled at by the fun teacher

[@raven4k998]

you thought it was fun to be evil it's more fun then being Greg the cry baby who cries over having killed an innocent npc🤣

[@purename4417]

Boys why only 403 likes??? Give him more

[@Kneecaptain]

@@purename4417 shut

[@Kneecaptain]

420 likes hehe

[@crazyworld54321]

ahuh ahuh aHUH ahuh

[@serdash6548]

The actor they have portraying the guy that lost his son has such a golden energy to him. Dude was incredible to watch perform.

[@theonewhofcks7650]

we need more of THAT guy

[@Living4Memes]

True bro. I like him performing very much. First time I saw him playing O'Driscoll in the rdr series. Like it as much

[@anandian]

He has also played a role in LOTR. Remember the guy who collects the weapons from the fellowship, but lets Gandalf keep his staff, outside the castle gate in Rohan?

[@serdash6548]

@@anandian Oh that's sick! Thanks for the fun fact

[@TheDrizzle404]

It's always hard to be the villain by yourself, but it's super easy to push your friend into it.

[@anna_in_aotearoa3166]

Oof. A joke but also a chillingly true comment re. how terrifyingly effective peer pressure & mob violence can be at making people do really messed-up sh*t... 😬

[@-the_emperor-1660]

@@anna_in_aotearoa3166 There is no evil where there is conviction.

[@brolygito]

I usually prefer being the good guy with a few misdeeds here and there. It's difficult for me to play a full bad guy character.

[@MotorcycleCheetah]

Playing a “Villain” with a set of rules and hard fast goals is more fun than just being a blood thirsty merciless “Bad Guy”.

[@BoopBobBeep]

Good good let the hate flow through you!

[@CCgivemeawedgy]

Damn, Palpatine and Anakin sure look and sound different than what I remember.

[@evngprimrose_]

That "Greg will remember this" is enough to make me go back and start again 🤣

[@anthonydeadman]

That TellTale pressure man.

[@wind-born2581]

I would.

[@spectralevolution]

the old man forgiving him before dying was beautiful

[@JustCharlsV]

Honestly this is a good representation of how it feels like trying to be bad in a video game. Props

[@leonfa259]

I don't mind randomly raiding, pillaging, stealing, kidnapping, slaughtering and eating every NPC I come across. But having to deal with everyone attacking you is pretty annoying.

[@henrytawnn8694]

I feel that way, too. I was playing Assassin's Creed Valhalla, and I get that I'm a viking and I have to raid villages for supplies, but when my NPC allies charge in and start throwing torches and burning the poor villager's houses down for no reason, I feel bad. I just want their stuff, I don't need to burn their houses down, too.

[@thatboyakira4202]

Except if the character for some reason is evil in the most funny way possible.

[@AsherWolfson]

Kind of why I don't play PayDay games any more.

[@luckydannumber2]

You meant a good representation of how the character is feeling while you are doing these actions.

[@Valkyreon]

This is so true. Everytime I do a 2nd playthrough of any RPG as the "bad guy", I have to take breaks for mental health because I'm disgusted by myself. 🤣

[@charlottehenthorn]

I understand but even worse I couldn't even get through overlord😂 by the way halovar is that you? If not You just have the same profile pic as a guy I play DND with

[@Valkyreon]

@@charlottehenthorn Nope, not halovar, sorry ;)

[@Psilomuscimol]

Wait till the 12th time playing

[@Valkyreon]

@@Psilomuscimol Of course, after a few playthroughs you're dead inside and then do whatever you like, maybe even discover choices that are even darker. It's just... that first time as the villain kind of hurts. 😅

[@M.Datura]

I find it strange that people always think that to be "bad" you have to do everything bad you possibly can (and that's how the games are often set up), but that's not what people do. People do things for power, for control, for personal vindication, and when games allows amoral choices to give you more power overall than moral ones, they usually make people at large feel bad about the games as a whole. Often stories and games of heroics have to sort of twist things to ensure that what makes the "hero" stronger isn't amoral, as frankly, half the time it's at the very least considered unsociable by quite a few.

[@LoreanGlaymore]

The actor who played the father was...extraordinary. That was some brilliant acting.

[@Hivedragon]

I know, hope to see more of him in future skids.

[@deadsparta6600]

He's John Leigh and he played Háma from Lotr

[@Elliotd1234]

@@Hivedragon He's dead though

[@Gloomshimmer]

@@deadsparta6600 fck me youre right......i know he dont looks like father o driscoll.

[@Insan1tyW0lf]

​@@Elliotd1234 happens all the time. Don't worry, he'll live.

[@EmeraldFatalis]

I love the amount of sheer joy Rowan is getting watching Ben's suffering from these deeds.

[@givensurname1296]

Making Rowan the bad guy....

[@riotson]

Agreed! Had that sort of "Told you so" feel, without saying it, while really getting into helping Ben be the bad guy lol.

[@martianinvader3828]

Rowan is a brilliantly evil puppet master. Also, I liked his character in this video.

[@TheMightyMurse1917]

Plot twist: this is Rowan's Hard Mode playthrough as the villain, in which he's tasked with creating an army of bad guys from the ground up. The first murder is always the hardest, after that it tapers down.

[@oblivicus8644]

Rowan is the bad guy no doubt about it muhahaha

[@KathrynB621]

“Greg will remember this.” This is more emotional damage than disappointing your parents lol.

[@eonice5197]

It's the look on his face face, let's be honest here

[@崔莱]

which punishment is more sever? > death by guards > Greg's *disappointment*

[@KathrynB621]

@@eonice5197 Yes haha!

[@KathrynB621]

@@崔莱 Greg’s disappointment. At least a guard’s death is swift haha! For the peace of the kingdom!

[@TheLed2012]

I relate to this sketch so much. No matter how many times I play a game, I always go the good route. The closest I can get to being evil is being a punisher esque good doer.

[@charlottehenthorn]

Nothing wrong with that, just means you have a large a amount of empathy. And have such a strong imagination that games feel real to you. I'm the same

[@ВікторКушнір-й8о]

​@@charlottehenthornno, it doesn't necessarily mean that. I am empathic as fuck towards real people but this is a game, Jesus. You're meant to role play.

[@dwelfusius]

Same, it's nearly impossible for me to do it.I'm going to try and play dark urge in BG3 because I want to see the story but aaaargh it will be gut wrenching (if I can even keep it up -.-)

[@tommerker8063]

@@ВікторКушнір-й8о it's more telling of what kind of story one enjoys.

[@Psilomuscimol]

If you can cheese kill npcs without losing karma I do it

[@tangymustard8540]

Rowan acting more like the bad guy than ben is hilarious 😂😂😂

[@HalfbreedTrini]

He’s a good guy helping his friend achieve his goal. The best kind of friend

[@jeffsorrows]

I was waiting for Rowan to finish the skit with "Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise?"

[@cannabeastie]

Felt appropriate

[@liszarezo3658]

@@jeffsorrows "Good, good, kill this merchant and go on the dark side".

[@mefcalols4446]

The intrusive thoughts

[@FaultAndDakranon]

Rowan helping Ben live out his dream of being the bad guy is so amusing to me.

[@dylanmcshane9976]

Pft they could sneeze at the same time and youd worship them

[@vapx0075]

@@dylanmcshane9976 Yeah probs, lol

[@mattstanford9673]

If anybody would know...lmfao.

[@FaultAndDakranon]

@@dylanmcshane9976 Do you know how hard it is to coordinate sneezes?! Of course I'd worship them!!!

[@dylanmcshane9976]

@@FaultAndDakranon uhg lol celebrity worship is so repulsive. How do you have a soul or individuality with feeling like that?

[@Eluarelon]

I lol'd so much. Ben's not only being a natural at being the bad guy, he's also a natural at pretending being a good guy with difficulties playing a bad guy. And Rowan being a really bad guy by instigating him to all his misdeeds made it even more awesome.

[@rythinpain]

Well Rowan did say he tried it before and didn't like it, so I'm guessing its more of a "I suffered through this, so you can too" sorta deal

[@SugR]

The father made me really shed a tear, the facial expressions and hand gestures and the way of saying is supremely underrated. It would have made me feel less bad if he respawned in the end but well... 😢

[@levhudson4893]

That "I forgive you" would have me rethinking my actual real life choices lol

[@markechevarria2696]

Whoever this new NPC actor is, man he killed it. Such a great skit guys. Thanks as always for such juicy content!

[@l.m.l8598]

Yea, I remember seeing him in a few other skits. He’s such a good actor.

[@RealElequist]

The last one? Dude that's John Leigh. He was in Lord of the Rings

[@theangler1922]

@@RealElequist No it wasn't. It was Robert Downey Jr. He was in Tropic Thunder.

[@steveg6199]

Agreed. Great acting from that dude!

[@VivaLaDirtLeague]

John Leigh, he was in a couple of our Red Dead skits. And yes he was in LOTR as well

[@magicalpj]

Greg shaking his head in disappointment in the background as he kept the gold was perfect 😂😂😂

[@TheGeneralSoundwave]

Great catch! I missed that the first time around

[@generalrendar7290]

4:00 I love how it's the same actors who play the muggers!

[@marcokonnecke877]

Whoever played the last NPC was great! Love his voice and the way he talks. Hope we see him again ^^

[@Big_Double_The_Bear]

@@TheCoolCucumber Wow!

[@robertnett9793]

@@TheCoolCucumber I guess it's neigh impossible to recruit actors / extras in NZ without getting somebody who was in LOTR :D

[@Geravind_Meowung]

"Hope we see him again" ...what's his respawn time?

[@JoeDM28]

Yes, even if he just comes on every now and then. Please don't take him away from us now.

[@theunknownreturns]

He was really good

[@professeurmythologeek7695]

God, Greg pulled out the famous " i'm not angry, just disappointed " card ! Can't win against that !

[@zereon]

@@ajitadonismanilal9105 nice flex now go touch grass

[@hyro3292]

@Ajit Adonis Manilal Yeaah of course it wouldn't work on you. You are such a baddie.

[@1217BC]

I love Rowan slowly revealing himself to be Ben's shoulder devil

[@molybdaen11]

He just taught him that it's not wise to act against his nature.

[@MrHappyface]

They should have added a scene where Rowan continues to encourage & insist that Ben do more & more horrible crimes, until a bounty is declared on Ben, & then Rowan immediately maim Ben & deliver him for the bounty reward. The whole town then praise Rowan's heroics for capturing the "evil villian", but after the celebration Rowan immediately starts encouraging Bethany to create an evil character.

[@1217BC]

@@MrHappyface This!

[@webenbanu]

I have the same problem! Our D&D characters are all pirates for the campaign we're playing now, and we're the nicest pirates ever lol.

[@jameskelly6039]

Rowan’s “yay! Bad guy” while Ben weeps absolutely kills me. Just not in the same way Ben kills that poor guy…

[@techpriest6962]

4:22

[@hadarc01]

They are so dedicated to the Bad Guy role, they didnt even loot the body. Im impressed!

[@raven4k998]

I don't care he has to sell his children🤣

[@andrewj1754]

@@raven4k998 To be fair, he does let his children play outside haunted caves and the like - its not as though he looks after them all that well. Perhaps who he sells them to, will actually give them a good home!

[@KabelkowyJoe]

To me this skit was bit dissapointment, one time only, convincing but one time only, could become series of examples, you basically work alone, Ben should be bad and Rowan was "okey let's try"

[@raven4k998]

@@KabelkowyJoe when I play a bad guy I just kill everything that moves no crying cause they are just npc's which is why I am a much better villain then he is🤣

[@KabelkowyJoe]

@@raven4k998 it's saves time, skip, skip, die, die, loot, move forward, but there is so much more, good sides and problems with bad reputation, more enemies to say at least

[@Tomer-oy1hj]

4:15 this "I forgive you" makes it 10 times worse, it is the best revenge this guy could have had against this adventurer

[@raven4k998]

you want to go kill his son?🤣

[@umayyah3475]

It was actually intended by the developers to put the reward on the guy. Once you kill him, you fail the quest, “a boy in the woods”, and unlock a secret boss by the end of the game called “vengeful son”. Albeit a child; he is possessed by all the Fallen Dark Lords, giving him immense power and a plethora of Special attacks. The fanbase are still struggling to beat the first phase.

[@raven4k998]

@@umayyah3475 I just love the crying over it when it's just an npc no one cares at the end of the day if you kill him🤣

[@aliddda328]

Npc I forgive you Me yeah yeah just go to heaven or something

[@AlexandreLucianoCarneiroPerusi]

It remembers me of someone... Oh, It's Jesus. He suffered because of Our sin, and then He is still willing to forgive, do you beleive Him?

[@AnimeGecko]

Rowan doing the "Yey bad guy!, Pretty fun right? " is like your conscience messin' with you. I'm felling the chills especially how he made that face sayin it😂

[@VoiceNerd]

The "save my son" NPC guy was fantastic. Excellent acting! Good stuff

[@royrieder2113]

His voice was good enough to make me think he might be a VA

[@joshuablade6974]

@@TheCoolCucumberOh you mean the idiot that chose to lay on the ground and scream before getting nommed by a Warg instead of defending himself? -_-

[@MxGxREBEN]

I was hoping he'd be on again for more videos in the future, but bad guy Ben killed him. Way to go, Ben.

[@sentar_dv]

​@@MxGxREBEN it's fine, NPC's are respawning in MMO's. So hopefully we'll se him again. :)

[@royrieder2113]

@@TheCoolCucumber wow! Thanks for letting me knoe

[@ashleycardenas9689]

At the part where Rowan suggests killing the guy and just taking the reward I couldn’t help but think, “well, we’re muggers aren’t we? And muggers mug people” 😂

[@legionarybooks13]

That was my first thought. When Rowan hypothetically asked how else they could get the gold off the man, I thought, "Let's mug 'em!" 😆

[@museinthemachinery5691]

This could be their origin story LOL.

[@ladyriethegoldendelmo5441]

@@museinthemachinery5691 so do u think he becomes a mugger therefore becomes an npc forever lol xd

[@masterofoblivion7963]

Mugger 1 "Oy, what are?" Mugger 2 " Well, we're muggers" Mugger 1 "And what do muggers do?" Mugger 2 "Well, they mug people" Mugger 1 "So" Both muggers "let's go mug 'em!"

[@dernwine]

@@ladyriethegoldendelmo5441 It's like the episode where Ben accidentally becomes an NPC.

[@MAJICB0B]

For someone who "couldn't do it", Rowan seems pretty enthusiastic about the whole thing.

[@GoblinRaccoon]

There’s a distance between doing it yourself and seeing someone else suffer the consequences

[@jetdonovan2869]

This morality coming from the guy who plays a character who LITERALLY climbs into people's bodies to explode them from the inside out is top notch!

[@JCArules13]

What?

[@deaconstjohn4842]

@@JCArules13 it's a reference from their D&D campaign videos (not the skits, the actual campaign)

[@creativecritters6791]

Can we have the father character in more videos and also make sure nothing bad ever happens to him in said videos, please? He's clearly an absolute saint and genuinely amazing and adorable!

[@falconswiss5217]

Agreed.

[@riotson]

Agreed! He just has that face that would be great in other stints!

[@anzelmasmatutis2500]

..but.. he was just killed... RIP..

[@LedionZogaj]

​@@riotson ye

[@craigmurrayauthor]

be a lot funnier to have that sweet older guy always getting killed, even accidentally, he could be the Agrajag of the series

[@rollin340]

I love have Rowan is enjoying this. He can see his friend suffer, and see another evil playthrough without the guilt of being the one doing it!

[@nukenade4623]

instead being the real evil person. the enabler

[@formdusktilldeath]

Second hand depravity is the best depravity

[@Gunnerg33]

Rowan was enjoying maybe a little too much...

[@benjaminthibieroz4155]

Rowan, the ultimate vilain

[@matt4796]

Rowan is really embracing the part.

[@Daniel_pjw]

I'm starting to get the feeling that Rowan never failed becoming the bad guy. He was just "lying" because he's a bad guy

[@tomatodamashi]

Are you referring to the actor or the character he's portraying?

[@FaultAndDakranon]

@@tomatodamashi yes.

[@MistahJay7]

@@tomatodamashi -_-

[@TrimutiusToo]

He is just experienced... He knows that you don't want to just do all the bad guy stuff possible, you need to do it only when it matters...

[@NightLancerX]

@@tomatodamashi Both=\ Probably... I know that by now *every* one of them was in some sort of "bad" role but only Rowan feels genuine about it(not saying that acting of other was bad - no, it was great, but summing up overall impression from all videos I reached such conclusion to myself).

[@LootFragg]

I think the hardest part in playing the bad guy for me is denying side quests. "Adventurer! I am in dire need of help!" "HELP YOURSELF! I AIN'T GOT TIME FOR MERCY!" ... ... _Spends the next hours and days pondering what the quest would have been._

[@Samudra2049]

Greg still staring at them from the distance actually hits hard😢

[@JuMiKu]

Greg will remember this. You feel your sins crawling down your back. Rowan respect +20.

[@frankkummer6419]

Haha, didn't even notice that myself. :D

[@tams2369]

​@@JuMiKu that's exactly my thoughts😂 Greg will remember this.

[@lautarotoloza7583]

Really puts things in perspective. Like, if this is how NPC's react, imagine how twisted the active evil players are.

[@Leviathis_Krade]

yeah like that player who kicks the dog every day he logs in

[@heloxiii8894]

In the Sims 3 or 4 I created an old man who bosses his ass off to raise a little child only for him to get inheritance about when he becomes an adult. Then with this kid i dated 3 girls at the same time and had sex with one of them while the two others were also in the room. Then had to comfort them in order to pull this stunt on the three of them. Then i got really bored and dropped out the game (plus i had three babies now so not interesting anymore) That's how sick (far) I went

[@TheDurid1]

There is a creepy pasta about a tortured Sims clown who would not be erased and haunted the player across multiple reboots of the game for years.

[@michaelperkola391]

​@@heloxiii8894 I don't understand Sims, but my friend told me his wife would get a new family member for the income then put that NPC in a room with no exit and let them die. She would listen to them beg for food and water for quite a while before they died! 😬

[@NightLancerX]

@@michaelperkola391 X_X I wonder what(and how) "income" was out of that. Is game really that trashy that it just plainly adds +% of money regardless of whether npcs are actually working or not? (But that's just a sidequestion ofc)

[@viken3368]

This perfectly encapsulates trying to be the bad guy. And the disappointed looks of everyone is heartbreaking

[@Aredel]

Man, this was my Pathfinder WotR experience in a nutshell

[@Starscreamious]

It's a lot easier in a trash game like Skyrim. All you have to do is steal one bit of food and the whole town tries to kill you.

[@williamruiz4571]

​@@AredelCool evil transformation but you have to be a shitty person to literally good NPCs.

[@Demon-.]

@@Starscreamious I wouldn't call it trash but yeah.... Hit a chicken and all of Skyrim will come for your soul 🤣

[@zjoee]

Every time I have tried to do a Renegade run through Mass Effect 2, I can't make it past the first few Renegade options before I feel bad and go back to Paragon haha.

[@rolgolding]

Man, that “I forgive you” at the end, really touched me.

[@grandejersey8779]

That last bit where Rowan is jolly like and says "well you're a bad guy :D c'mon let's go kill his son" and Ben being emotionally devastated breaks me every time xD

[@leonellgaming2954]

146 likes and no replies? Let me fix that

[@propanenightmare69]

Agreed, we all need that one friend that makes you stick to your decision and basically mocks you while participating until you break

[@ericjohnson6675]

Kill his son? Get more money selling the kid into slavery. Like that other NPC dad said he had to do.

[@ttvkyberwolf6659]

The way Rowan was just egging him on the whole time trying to see how far he’d go was great. You could tell he was enjoying seeing how far Ben would go before admitting he can’t handle it😂

[@diniiantares]

"I see you really thought it through and don't want to be a bad guy anymore...Welp, sucks to be you, I liked blood!"

[@dravem]

Rowan is the top bad guy even when he is the good guy of the party XD

[@Voronore]

I honestly thought he was egging Ben on so that the guard would come, and then Rowan could loot the father. SUBTLE bad guy > overt bad guy?

[@jaisummons2304]

What a cool friend sounds like my drinking buddies

[@tctc4413]

o yea he's his evil sempai / the final boss , Ben is more of a mid boss

[@BobHerzog1962]

For claiming he couldn't stand to play the bad guy, Magsol seems to have an incredible amount of joy watching his friend suffering through trying it out.

[@BobHerzog1962]

@M̳̿͟͞W̳̿͟͞G̳̿͟͞C̳̿͟͞O̳̿͟͞T̳̿͟͞A̳̿͟͞H̳̿͟͞ oh I know Schadenfreude. After all we invented the word for it. Still kind of hypocritical.

[@SliverRogue2012]

Well, so does anyone who liked this video (me included)

[@rwager17]

​@M̳̿͟͞W̳̿͟͞G̳̿͟͞C̳̿͟͞O̳̿͟͞T̳̿͟͞A̳̿͟͞H̳̿͟͞ epicaricacy would be the English word for it

[@reuvenpolonskiy2544]

There are people like this. They are the bad guys but dont aknowlage it, otherwise they could not be the bad guy.

[@Mr.Fulton]

UNDERTALE. No further explanation needed

[@lkuhhdsfgasdgvdadfg]

that old guys acting was on point. i really felt it in his words.

[@kadincaldwell1052]

I can almost see this as the origin story for Ben's mugger. The real reason why the mugger is so incompetent is that he actually doesn't want to be the bad guy, but he's committed to the role

[@ScottStyx]

I was just thinking the same thing, lmao

[@drustan17]

It kinda works perfectly seeing that Rowan is always the one kinda "forcing" Ben to steal. To the point of him not being able to resist the "What do mugger do?"

[@lidge1994]

@@drustan17 Ohh, and maybe at some point they got trapped somewhere that made em go insane and all they know is they like being bad guys and they're not very good at it, but their good side comes out sometimes, like the last video, where they tried to help Hamish, who Ben stole from here.

[@ilyakats54]

I love the concept

[@kimberlycaycee3064]

This is genuinely relatable, even if it was an accident. Especially if it’s a character that you like. “What have I done?” The guilt is real

[@masterplokoon8803]

I tried to do an evil playthrough in Kingdom Come Deliverance. I couldn't bring myself to do anything bad to nice npcs, I can only be ruthless against bandits, Cumans and evil people. In the quest to steal the quarrymen's wages I replaced the money with the same amount from my own pocket.

[@chadst0r]

i have tried being bad in games like the old Kotor 1 and 2, i suck at being bad apparently

[@axhen]

yeah worst thing i can do is lawfule evil. In most of my plays i can't even take something lying in someone's house without feeling guilty but one day maybe, i'll be able to play a bad guy (but like, not oo bad too, like slightlty raising the taxes or stuff)

[@daerdevvyl4314]

I tried playing Naughty Bear. But killing cute little teddy bears as they whimper and try to crawl away was too much for me.

[@evedael]

@@chadst0r Oddly enough, the only games i can be truly evil in are the starwars games, I had no qualms about getting Zalbaar to kill mission or killing the boss in Manaan. I usually prefer playing good or neutral characters in most games but i always find the morality systems in starwars games to be funny so i make it a point to be as evil as i can in at least one playthrough but i try to remain neutral in most others. Something about sith choices in kotor and swtor being so over the top evil that they are downright hilarious while the good choices make absoutely no sense half the time and there being no nuance to them makes it pretty easy to be evil in these games.

[@LostBoy1920]

Rowan starts off just daring Ben, almost as if to dissuade him from being a bad guy, but come the end credits Rowan is living vicariously through Ben 😂

[@raven4k998]

can I live vicariously through you as you kill people?🤣

[@markdavejosol8085]

Rowan is doing all that to prove his point that being a bad guy is harder than Ben thinks.

[@physeter_de595]

I got the impressiong, that actually Rowan is the bad guy here... 😆

[@sploofmcsterra4786]

I think Rowan is just enjoying Ben's pain that he himself experienced

[@sffoto1969]

Rowan kills without loosing morality points! Win.

[@Yutah1981]

god, this father character is so relentlessly likable, he's hitting you like a truck. betraying his trust felt just like it should

[@mattriley2532]

Loved this episode. Greg disappointed, Ben sobbing by the end, and Rowan merrily leading his friend through a moral awakening 😆

[@jimmyfrench4722]

We’ll later learn that IRL Rowan had been dropping hints for Ben to try being a bad guy for days just for the fun of tormenting him…because we know the real Rowan.

[@Koloradus96]

This episode is actually more psychologically critical than the other episodes. Well written.

[@TheSolarCobalt]

No lie, Ben is seriously an amazing actor. The conflict of trying to be bad while battling the good is a struggle you can really see on his face and hear in his voice. I need to see him in a movie.

[@dr.jasepain5944]

It is a "striggle" indeed

[@achanwahn]

​@@dr.jasepain5944 🙃☺️

[@TheSolarCobalt]

@@dr.jasepain5944 NOOOOOO XD

[@bradeki2997]

I'm playing Baldur's Gate 3 now, and my "evil" run quickly became a "kinda sketchy about personal belongings left in barrels, undaunted by books with ominous, strangely skin-like covers, and fond of dark clothing, but saves helpless people more often than not. For a price. Sometimes." run.

[@valteth]

Rowan had definitely done an evil playthrough with how gleeful he is guiding ben through this one

[@thomasbecker9676]

The twist is, he's still on his evil playthrough.

[@BigHudd1]

Hamish saying "Oh... Okay." The face he makes... Pure gold. Hamish always hits different

[@maddragonqueen_]

Rowan's grin while Ben is breaking down is perfection 😂😂 And yeah this is the exact reason I can never make bad guy choices in games lol

[@tylerbessinger6796]

Then theres me who cheerfully runs through whiterun murdering

[@maximchirkin1992]

"I forgive you" just hurts

[@zura8879]

Rowan: "being a bad guy is actually hard" Also Rowan with a smile "You need to kill him for the gold :D" I think the real bad guy was Rowan all along!

[@HorizonOfHope]

"Let's go kill his son!" was gold.

[@martinfiedler4317]

You notice that only now? 😉

[@justemy2516]

plot twist: rowan never abandoned the idea of an evil playthrough but was waiting for ben to recruit him everyone knows the real bad guys always have someone do the job for them

[@hotdognl70]

@@justemy2516 And that is the right conclusion.

[@Anthony54762]

Rowan was just trying to help.

[@curtishsiung5979]

2:12 Love Greg just shaking his head constantly watching everything unfold

[@Spacemongerr]

Haha! Didn't notice, thanks for this comment

[@redt3788]

I just love how guilty Ben is every time he does something bad

[@dannyjack659]

Heh as technology get better in games you see more better face and body acting from NPCS so it can trigger your guilt more.

[@redt3788]

@@dannyjack659 totally understandable considering that happens to me a lot when I do something bad in video games

[@raymondgabriel5724]

I just love how happy Rowan is to see Ben suffer in joyous I-told-you-so facials

[@Suzuki_Hiakura]

Being the bad guy in games is nearly impossible if your good imo... I played a skyrim playthrough being bad, but eventually started doing good things in a more chaotic neutral kind of sense... it is difficult to be bad :(

[@CalvinJary]

Then you meet people in real life who are WAY more evil than this and they take delight and pleasure in it.

[@slyngn7847]

Can we just take a moment to appreciate Greg shaking his head in disappointment here at 2:11? It's a really nice level of detail that he was watching Ben's evil interaction with other NPCs.

[@solego5504]

I love that the two muggers, in a slightly different context, are having such a hard time being muggers.

[@ClaustroPasta]

this seems like it is the origin story

[@alanshand829]

@@ClaustroPasta thats what i thought when Rowan said he'd have the reward on him, was expecting "Let's mug 'im!"

[@eikonicprime]

He really dropped that "I'm not mad... I'm just disappointed" right off the bat. I could feel my conscience scream.

[@homesteadgamer1257]

lmao saaaame. Greg's disappointment is the ultimate punishment.

[@thatboyakira4202]

It's just like that feeling when you comment about someone that... "Yeah, I wonder how that hot chic is." "Luci? She hasn't been here for a while, huh?" "Your sis is comin' or what, dude?" "She died." "Oh." *Awkward silence*

[@censoreduser]

The fact that Ben doesn’t actually have much of a bad skit character this time (shocking right?), but is a literal bad guy in the game, is hilarious

[@kalingbf5362]

Or... maybe it's the character origin?

[@Housenflou]

You could say it's...outrageous even.

[@hashamkhan8789]

Let's go mug em

[@justahobbiest]

They absolutely should add this style of immediate karma to more RPGs

[@florendilhobbit2099]

I Love how Rowan is first like "well I couldn't bear being the bad guys" and then proceeds to talk Ben into all the evil stuff he wouldn't have thought about. "A'ight, let's go kill his son"

[@baffleit586]

"Come on, let's go kill his son", that took me off guard, brilliant, had me laughing hysterically

[@ianyoder2537]

Rowan is the bigger villain here. Dude can see his friend suffering, and encourages him to continue.

[@justanotherdad9193]

Rowan is ALWAYS the villain. Especially Baelin, that sketchy imp.

[@wobblysauce]

As long as your char isn’t affected, it is great to watch another wreck there’s

[@lukeari9890]

Yeah but this is a lvl 1 char, he's showing Ben that he won't enjoy this playstyle before he gets too committed

[@chrispettie1989]

No thats a true friend

[@cymond]

He's guiding him to an inevitable realization

[@SilentPrayerCG]

Reminded me about that meme: When people say videogames make you violent, but you're too scared to click the rude dialogue option, because you don't want to hurt the NPC's feelings