Playing the new update

[@danielderjaj]

1) Got in the game 2) Got in DP battle 3) Saw the health bug (which resets your character health if you either switch him back in or transform him in the last 60 seconds of the match) 4) Hopped on singles 5) Saw no vanish war, no insta spark spam. 6) Had actually fun in singles.

[@c0wboys4life]

@@danielderjaj Keep on my mind vanish wars are always inevitable…Anybody that’s good enough will adjust to the timing for real. The plus tho is that even through that it won’t last so long anymore since it consumes more ki but now the back and forth feels more satisfying like it’s supposed to be nobody is getting through them so easily like in pre patch

[@ernestobarragan3210]

Singles was always the most fun way to play, because tere isn't too much room for cheesy tactics in 1 vs 1

[@the_lifeoftimbo]

@@c0wboys4lifeyea I didn’t know they had INCREASED the ki used during vanish wars and ended up feeling like I was getting cooked everytime I got knocked away.

[@danielderjaj]

@@ernestobarragan3210 I have to disagree with that based on my pre-patch experience on singles. Singles WAS the most cheesy mode out of the 2. Players with insta spark could just use it and start spamming ki blast stunning you and then hitting you with their ultimate, just to enter sparking mode again and finish the game. Now with vanish wars regenerating less skill points, and ki blasts having a certain delay, you can now play with any character, throw hands and win.

[@neiflowkeycold]

@@danielderjajyeah nah i agree, singles was definitely more cheesy than dp battle imo, i js wanted to use trunks n throw hands but kept getting worked by insta sparking gogeta 4 users

[@samwildstein2092]

Yeah, I don't really understand punishing aggressive players for initiating exchanges by nerfing z-burst. People already played overly defensive, and it feels like even with the other changes there are more players content to sit back and never approach.

[@alwuhugaming]

Very frustrating and I’m not really enjoying the update. I just gotta adapt and learn

[@TheClutchUDF]

This was broken paired with androids, infinite ability to get hunt down

[@TheWindBlack]

Even with the new dash in?

[@ProfessionalYouTubeWatcher]

Its because they wanted to nerf ki blast into z burst dash and buff quick dash

[@Rxfi_17]

look like it’s time to use the instant transmion characters, i feel like gt goku is now rlly good now

[@coltonross215]

His smile and optimism.. gone. The nerf to Z burst dash is crap

[@prizeinside]

Z burst dash being nerfed just enables the same losers who spam instant spark as their main strategy. Honestly, I’m very disappointed with my first impressions of this patch

[@alwuhugaming]

Same

[@kvskenny8910]

with zburst dashing being nerfed so hard i think instant transmission is gonna play a big part in the upcoming meta

[@Striker2097]

Only for knocking away and getting behind your enemy yeah. But rn it's probably at its worse

[@alexferrier5732]

Yeah I have had success punishing insta spark attempts from afar with my instant transmision now, I could do it before patch too, but before the patch I always had 1 ki bar so I prefered to do Z burst, now I prefer to use two stocks

[@lazysamurai4348]

Me and a friend were playing last night and every time I used time skip he just held perception and was already looking at me when I was supposed to appear behind him idk if that’s intended but it makes instant transmission worthless his lock never went off

[@alexferrier5732]

@@lazysamurai4348 Yeah the CPU was doing this against my Blue Gogeta insta transmisión too I thought it was the CPU just being gdlk, but nah, it is that easy to counter. Thats why I don't use transmition in neutral and only use it to stop people from insta sparking from afar and from getting someone's back after a smash or grab like I used to do with Z burst, this way it is guaranteed to land.

[@whitehairedbadass3475]

Yo can do the same thing against z burst dash anyway. If you couldn't do anything it would be too strong. Just don't be predictable.

[@MrShredGuy00]

I really just don't get why z burst dash was touched. It felt very much dbz to rush in at each other, learn different ways to throw people off, stop the broly cheesers who just spam insta spark or just charge up. I definitely agree with the other comments about instant transmission being the new meta. Just wish they would have hit on rage quitting instead of making a different aspect of the game worse.

[@manmenboy]

Nothing good about 1 mechanic being significantly better than all options. Z-burst was op as previously implemented.

[@MeowLesty]

They nerf Yajirobe and then turn everyone into Yajirobe with that full heal glitch. The masterplan

[@Deductive_]

I don’t like the changes at all, it’s not that I can’t adapt, it’s just enabling the cheesy playstyle even more. A lot of berserk kale showing up, and even broly will be viable since it’s more difficult to play aggressively against them and they can sit there and charge for an ultimate or unblockble super. I don’t know maybe I’m ranting, but I’m not feeling this update at all. Keep up the videos homie

[@alwuhugaming]

100% agreed. Im not enjoying the update

[@krs1297]

​@@alwuhugamingyeah cause you play DP

[@Coolest_Name]

Having just grinded ranked for hours rn, I'd say the update gutted alot of cheese actually, though I'm playing singles

[@Deductive_]

I feel you bro I dropped from top 50 to 100 because of cheesy players. Can’t have excuses though I have to adapt. For now I’ll stop playing for a while. GL on your next games

[@huk2617]

Eh, broly's alt is so asl now

[@noevargas1097]

I like how quick vanishing wars are done now. Felt like they disrupted gameplay flow.

[@thekillaboy8817]

Nah bro according to the Internet “That’s how they fight in the series”. I don’t remember a single episode of them vanishing for 2 minutes straight but nah it’s lore accurate

[@hyperionloader]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5bLp2Btobt-lcksi=HTePuUFz4te0hrYU That's the scene that I remember using it the most

[@emanchi8403]

I think they should revert the z-burst dash nerf and fix the hp bug then the game will be better than ever

[@alwuhugaming]

I 100% agree

[@brandonaguilera5713]

The nerf to Z burst dash now benefits characters with full charge and instant spark. Especially full charge since it’s 2 skill points. But even with the nerf to instant spark, once you use it, youll have ki advantage and will be easier to keep up pressure. On the flip side, it’ll be harder to stop instant spark because of that extra ki cost.

[@ringzy]

The update has me stressed tf out. The swap glitch has this game kinda unplayable

[@caseyjefferson_]

Yeah that’s crazy stuff, imma wait until it’s fixed.

[@ringzy]

​@@caseyjefferson_they HAVE to fix this asap. Within the next day or 2. Alan is probably 100% correct in that they have no quality control because how do professional software developers not notice such a blatant bug?

[@c0wboys4life]

@@ringzy It will get fixed they got a major Bandai tournament going on with this game it might even be a emergency patch happening sooner than we think and might be a ghost patch

[@LeelosAdventure]

@@c0wboys4lifenext tournament match is January 19th. If the devs wait that long to fix a game breaking glitch, then this game will have at most like 200 active players. This game should’ve been released on Christmas, they gave us an unfinished game

[@c0wboys4life]

@@LeelosAdventure It’s crazy to think that they will take that long it fix it. I simple said it will be fixed before the tournament and with the outcry for it to be fixed thats going on online it might become a emergency patch for them to get to

[@wokhz2k81]

The charged attack concept seemed like a good idea to me but im really hating how combos feel rn. Keeps making me do random charged attacks when I don’t want to and if I slow down the mashing of square to try avoid that then the combos just drop. That with the dash costing 2 bars is really annoying

[@michaelgarza2569]

The new dash closes the distance just as well. I personally think 2 bars for dashing BEHIND your opponent makes sense

[@imnotblindbutiloveblindfol8449]

It does to an extent but it kills combat potential and slows it down because now there’s less combo variety since you can’t do the resets as often. Game’s already heavily defensive. Nerfing z dash will just make it worse imo

[@huk2617]

it absolutely does not

[@alwuhugaming]

It closes the distance but the opponent can just disengage very easily and quickly

[@Hoxsfan206]

The new dash closes the distance SIGNIFICANTLY slower than the Z-burst, it’s not even close

[@michaelgarza2569]

@@Hoxsfan206 ya I tested it some more I was wrong

[@lorenzobortolani5286]

just had the pleasure to play some patched matches during my lunch break today, since in Europe the patch is already out. I gotta say i can see why they made z burst dash cost two ki bars, think it mainly is because androids' loop was very strong and it's now more difficult to do, and androids could loop you till you lost one character if you didn't have an explosive wave or super countered the right amount of times to gain ki advantage, which can become difficult since androids regenerate their ki. And it also gives you a reason to try different approach mechanics. Side step isn't as powerful as I thought it would've become, because ki blast can still interrupt it, the invincibility frames are not a lot, to the point i didn't notice the difference. Vanish wars tho, that was a big big change, now it takes twice or 3 times the ki it needed to do 1 vanish, very good, and the time becomes faster and faster with each vanish just like damage reduces more and more as you hit longer combos. It's more engaging now and more difficult to pull off and finally revenge counter, since skill points now are more difficult to farm, but not impossible, keeping the pressure high and staying in the engagement isn't always necessary to keep the opponent in the match without activating instant spark. Example: faced teen gohan today, he went ss2 on me, and by the time he got to four skill points he knocked me away like 4 times and i still managed to come close to him again each time, and throw hands, forcing him to use explosive wave at red health, and he has 5 skill points max so he couldn't activate it after, and if he brought a red health character back after the health regen nerf for the background characters that means i'll kill him as soon as he comes in. As you said in the patches' video I thouth as well that some mechanichs should have stayed the way they were, but after trying it on practice i saw they made a good patch. Btw the last thing, switching becomes more important with less health recovery, as you said, but it also makes matches end for squad wipe more often than timeout, so i'm satisfied with that too. I made an entire yap fest in your comment section but i hope you'll read this and tell me if you agree or disagree with me. Keep up with the amazing content. Sorry for spamming this message but I’d really like your opinion on this

[@BKChanSaga6767]

I know exactly what you mean,not everything is perfect but the vanish war change is good and the health recovery nerf for background characters basically changing the whole strategy for DP battles to squad wiling is also a very welcoming strategy

[@lavanda1605]

This is the objective truth. Anyone who disagrees just likes spamming dragon dash.

[@alwuhugaming]

I think a better change to z burst dashing would’ve been to just have the character burst forwards and be in front of the opponent. Androids still have the potential to do the loops the most out of every character in the game. With how passive the gameplay can be, androids can now sit back, pester you with ki blasts, as they regen ki and then eventually use those loops when they finally choose to engage. The switch mechanic right now feels like it doesn’t function properly so I don’t have much to say on that.

[@LokiBeckonswow]

z burst dash needs to go back to 1 ki bar, don't know why they did this - lots of improvements from this patch which is dope af but z burst dash needs to be 1 bar

[@MasterYoda3169]

@@LokiBeckonswow bro frfr man I can’t deal idk why now mfkas bout be playin like turtles 🐢

[@Cozyboy_5]

Kinda happy to see dragon dash combos. And they made rush chains have rush momentum similar to bt3.

[@requiemthethethe]

I'm so glad they made vanish wars faster. The update isn’t perfect (still no ragequit penalty / fix, glitches) but I'm grateful it’s happened at all.

[@zack6314]

Did they really not fix the rage quit penalty?

[@nickrossi4298]

This is exactly why they had to nerf z burst dash. One of the biggest, cheapest, most used tactics in the game was to zoom behind and give back shots that only have one counter, the most skillful counter in the game to pull off. And you just made a half hour video missing it. Now it has to be used sparingly. There are other approach options they just aren’t as easy. Nobody enjoys being on the other end of an infinite combo loop. I do think perception needs a slight nerf (consume more ki?) to match though.

[@imnotblindbutiloveblindfol8449]

3 counters. Super counter, side stepping, ki blasts and blocking. It was bad choice to nerf z burst it kills aggression in a game that’s already slow paced and carried by defense.

[@alwuhugaming]

Yeah I miss z burst dashing cuz it helped prevent the even MORE cheap tactic of playing passive and avoiding combat with ki blasts lol.

[@nickrossi4298]

Those counter the dash but once they have initiated a combo to the back you only have super counter. At least that I have managed. I will admit I mostly play singles and haven’t run into much running away. Dragon dash deflects ki blasts though? So you can still just dash through them. I’m trying to have fun playing dragon ball man and constantly playing around z burst dash was lame. I’m glad such a valuable tool now has some noticeable cost.

[@nickrossi4298]

@ thank you for the videos

[@zooterno1]

Can't help but agree with all these points Played another Z-rank who just stood there and charged and instant sparked, never engaged the whole game; I thought damn ok. I play very aggressive, always z bursting. Now its such a high risk to even touch z burst because if I get super countered, now im at a huge ki disadvantage

[@narutauxlyrad3008]

You can use the new Dash to close the distance. Just don’t start punching as soon as you get close. Cancel, side step and look for an opening. And with the fix on vanish wars. Ki advantage is no longer too strong when you are up close.

[@lavanda1605]

Mhm

[@RosuVT]

Unironically this patch a great step in the right direction IS WHAT ID SAY If the freaking mega heal bug didnt exists. Also the new dash should be much faster.

[@alemetal99]

I tried a few hours the new update. Z burst dash was a big part of my game because i tend to Play aggressively but now it just feels weird. We gotta adapt but i don't think it will be Easy. I really liked the fact that i could always extended my combos but now it's way harder than before

[@Low-RankGamer]

Was watching you go against President Rose in his live stream early this morning. Was a good watch and was pretty cool realizing he was playing against you. Some people in the chat noticed and called you out. Bro was saying he could beat you if he also had 5 characters. People were saying he didnt have a chance 🤣 he changed his team up and was hoping to match up with you again to prove chat wrong

[@HiveXbeezy]

Fax bro I was watching too

[@midas2252]

So Rose lost? No rematch?

[@saturoskicks9397]

2 matches , rose lost twice to time out

[@Low-RankGamer]

@midas2252 I can't remember tbh. I caught the end of a match and then when starting the new match he paired up with the Ahwulu a second time, and that time they didn't run the sets

[@milboxr9772]

He's not wrong though lol its near impossible to beat a 5 man with 2 characters with only the 300 seconds they give in ranked

[@JoselitoBurrito]

Also, for the sake of DP meta, I'd like to make the winner however damaged mosr of the enemy team instead of based on health. That would make it waay more aggressive and would encourage stronger teams instead of weak 5 character meta. Not much variation since there's not many 1, 2, and 3 DP characters so it's only a 2 character rotation...

[@alwuhugaming]

They changed the win condition of time out. Idk what determines the winner, but it’s no longer whoever has more characters.

[@gundamuser]

I feel like instaspark is still pretty easy to get especially since z burst dash utilizes more ki. Maybe im trippin

[@alwuhugaming]

Nope you’re right. It’s exactly what I said yesterday in my patch analysis. I knew all different ways to stop people from using insta spark and they nerfed all those ways

[@imnotblindbutiloveblindfol8449]

Guess I’ll have to learn those two reset techs you used. From watching this gameplay I’ve noticed my play style won’t change drastically I’ll just need to think smarter when approaching. Will slow the pace down a tad but I’ll adjust for sure.

[@JoselitoBurrito]

I like most of the update but the 2 ki bars for Z-burst dash. I agree 1 was low, but 2 is too much. 1 & 1/2 feels like a happy medium. Like you said. Androids are the absolute meta right now.

[@schiffer2258]

very sad to see... cant believe they somehow made the game worse when they have a full list made by the community explaining what needs to be changed. and why change the z burst dash? who tf was complaining about z burst dash being 1 ki bar never heard anyone have a problem with that. the time outs are the worst part of this game imo(and rage quitting ofc still cant believe people dont get punished for that) a lot of the times i would run 2-3 character teams with majin vegeta and just self explode whenever i see someone trying to stall, like get a life bro how pathetic are you to wanna win without learning how to play the game so badly that you wont even engage the whole fun of a fighting game is the fighting, go play survival horror if you wanna run, ppl so down bad for ranked points in a game with no ranked rewards is crazy. and the devs must not give a single fuck considering they dont even play their own game and they release updates meant to ''fix'' it and instead add game breaking bugs like your health fully recovering after a switch. really wanted to get on the new update and have fun now id rather not play at all...

[@Hoxsfan206]

I have no idea why they nerfed the z-burst so heavily. I never saw anyone complain about it so they themselves must’ve decided that’s not the way they wanted people to approach in sparking zero. Like even a nerf to 1 and a half ki bars would be fine but two whole bars is insane!

[@vChesterr]

I think it’s because of android 19 and Gero, spamming grab in a loop

[@huk2617]

@@vChesterr anyone complaining about the grab loop has a skill issue im not gonna lie, it's so easy to react to

[@vChesterr]

@@huk2617 Still toxic playstyle, Whether it's easy to react or not, it's a fighting game, not a up and down dashing or grabbing simulator

[@Hoxsfan206]

@@vChesterr I think that would be a bad reason to completely nerf a mechanic that affects every character. They already nerfed those Androids outside of the burst dash in other significant ways including nerfing their grabs into the ground so it’s hard to see the logic there.

[@screenwriterdave]

I bet they're listening and they'll eventually revert the Z-burst back. Not sure why it got nerfed in the first place. I guess they just wanted to make ki more expensive in general?

[@zkatom3773]

I want to say that the patch has been actually very good, except for the z burst dash change, I need to get used to it now, vanish wars feel actually more skillful to time it faster and faster, and I feel like ki management is more important than ever, I already decided to play Vegeta scouter because his ki charging is fast, like Turles, considering also using Turles in my main team. There is unfortunately only one damn problem... wtf is that health bug man? 💀anyways, I will be playing singles for now I guess, singles btw is also better now imo, I see diversity and less instant sparking spam. Also, I think the revenge counter perception was really stupid, why I spend 2 sp, and my opp potentially gonna spend only 1 against me? 💀

[@huk2617]

Also, they didn't fix item glitch did they? Crazy that it was happening in finals and it wasn't fixed (at least i don't think it was). Also, im ngl it's lame that they do a lot of "buffed x slightly" instead of giving raw numbers, like me personally it'd be way nicer if instead of SSJ4 Goku's buff being "increased" they said "Buffed from 25% -> 50% Attack" or whatever

[@dsglaws]

Characters that heal are now wayyyyy better now that z burst dash is nerfed. Metal Cooler is now Meta😤

[@huk2617]

Gotta agree metal cooler goes even crazier now. Only bad thing is his sidestep is the worst (ki blast) since the update also buffed sidestepping

[@vChesterr]

The Z burst dash nerf was absolutely not necessary, literally no one complained about this

[@ernestobarragan3210]

This is what i feared of this patch. They wanted to buff the more passive gameplay, with people throwing thing from afar, like in other arena fighters (although for me Sparking Zero isn't an arena fighter)

[@brysonrockafellow]

I felt like there was already enough counter play for aggressive play styles and z burst dashing (super counter, side step z-burst dash, perception, ki blast, etc) so it’s weird they even saw this as a mechanic that needed a nerf. I understand that for some it can be annoying to go against a high pressure player but is this really the better alternative? IMO this made the gameplay worse overall.

[@alwuhugaming]

Agreed

[@1Zoink]

It doesn’t matter they made insta spark 1 more dp because u can’t even rush up to them to prevent them from getting it off without spending 2 ki bars if u even have it

[@imnotblindbutiloveblindfol8449]

Bingo. You can still ki blast but sometimes z dashing behind someone is a better strat than shooting a ki blast.

[@chamop15]

I think videl is still viable for the combo potential but no afterimage strike as a defensive option does hurt

[@nathan4553]

afterimage is still a very much viable skill in the game, you just gotta be wary of perception

[@Saydeez]

I was trying to find someone who talks about the update. And no one explains things the way you do alwuhu. FIRE UPLOAD LETS GOOOOO Also don’t you think full power skill is gonna become meta?

[@pranavkalyan.s4659]

Glazing is crzy

[@lavanda1605]

It’s always been Meta scrubs just used the dumber skills.

[@rhett3185]

I think Z-Burst dash was the only major miss in this update. There was no reason to nerf it other than to showcase and offer the alternative of the High Speed Dragon Dash, which just isn’t the same nor good enough to make up for the advantages of Z-Burst Dash. Everything else I’m ‘mostly’ okay with, even happy with but that one change to Z-Burst Dash is just not good, it doesn’t feel good either.

[@christopherpalmer7837]

They need to change z burst dash back to normal

[@dankheadscopes9315]

Amen

[@thenoodle7074]

It was never a issue

[@lavanda1605]

Hard disagree.

[@DerriousGamez]

Definitely disagree

[@Eddoe2real]

Yea enabling people to play way too passively it’s like they fix one thing ruined another everything else it’s pretty much fine I just feel as tho they should change the z burst dash back no need to punish aggressive players especially which all the super armor metas running around

[@morgancongedo4107]

A "work around" for the z burst dash nerf is that after the knockbacks attacks instead of z burst press circle to throw them on the ground and then use the new mecchanic to approach them quickly continuing the combo It's not as good but better than nothing Circle->L2+X(hold) Ps: if Z burst was 1,5 bar it would have been fine but 2 is really too much

[@atagon1]

Reeeeaaaaaally not a fan of the z burst dash change. Thought it wouldn't feel as bad as it does when I read the patch notes. Also my main team uses 18, Pan, and Videl... The update gave my 18 stronger hands but at what cost... RIP AIS 😔😔😔

[@atagon1]

Oh also day 9 of asking for a Pan spotlight I guess

[@FredSavageRavage]

AIS was straight cancer tho

[@adampannu97]

Bandai should just hire you bro.

[@JimmyJimbo23q]

I really hope they emergency fix the bug it’s a huge problem, and by the way I really think base gogeta is gonna be meta in dp battles when you transform to blue his stardust barrier is 1 skill point and he melts low dp characters obviously

[@IamJay02]

Super counters will be harder to do in a vanish war. If you land one, they vanish again and again and theyll keep getting faster. So i think its a bit more difficult to get a super counter if theyre stuck in z vanish assaults.

[@yoipgiol4047]

If they do 2 super counter then they will have 1 ki bar advantage

[@hodjr0]

This game just became even more of a resource manager. Give them a few more patches and they'll introduce a top down camera and structure building.

[@mildhotpeppers]

Skill issue

[@imnotblindbutiloveblindfol8449]

The nerfs to dragon dash and buff to revenge counter will make DP so damn annoying now with stalling playstyles. I haven’t played yet I’m on my way home now but I can tell this is gonna be a miserable experience lol. I’m happy with all the changes besides the dragon dash and revenge counter one. The dragon dash change really only affects good players.

[@milboxr9772]

​@@imnotblindbutiloveblindfol8449what revenge counter buff? If anything they nerfed it making perception cost 1 to counter revenge counter now instead of 2?

[@imnotblindbutiloveblindfol8449]

@ Revenge counter now costs 1 point instead of 2 unless I read it wrong

[@milboxr9772]

@@imnotblindbutiloveblindfol8449 no it doesn't it still costs 2 if anything they nerfed it, the Perception Counter when you perception a revenge counter now costs 1 skill stock instead of 2

[@wilhelmthegreat]

havent played the update yet but i will say that your fights are a lot funner to watch now

[@MikuCobraCole]

I don't really like the z burst dash change and steps are crazy, they didn't need to add so much i-frames lol Ps: I posted a combo reset using ki ascend/descend, hope it helps, check it out dude

[@alwuhugaming]

@@MikuCobraCole yeah I agree. The steps have too many i frames now and I really don’t like how I can’t approach

[@danielderjaj]

@@MikuCobraCole That' s actually pretty smart, never thought of it as a reset tool instead of an only flanking/fleeing tool

[@FlaZozo14]

Now I think characters like Turles will real benefit from the reduced skill stock required for buffs + his insanely fast ki charging

[@FlaZozo14]

The current state of the game is really broken with the "newly added" health glitch, so I'm gonna take a few days off, play Indiana Jones and read some books

[@FlaZozo14]

I'm very frustrated because I was at top #116 Brazil dp and striving for the top #50, learning new things every day and all, anyway... We might as well play singles

[@gordyhayward1186]

the cinimatic camera kind of cool

[@SeanxWick]

Z rank Android 17 here and I agree with you on some things but others not so much. I believe the Z burst taking 2 ki bars is a nerf for androids in the sense that it forces us to play much less aggressively as we cannot continuously dashing behind to keep pressure. That’s what made androids so good was that we could keep pressure basically infinitely. Now it’s much more risky and punishable to dash behind especially with the wild sense meta and guess what now i just lost 2 ki bars. The passive play does not benefit an aggressive android. It only benefits a passive one.

[@Tim_TheDude]

Just me or after steps into normal attack the combo sometimes just ends after 3 hits? Since the patch my combos are fucked

[@alwuhugaming]

Yup same

[@neiflowkeycold]

ive honestly been enjoying the game sm more after switching to dp battles it feels like a breath of fresh air, but with that glitch im not even gonna attempt dp gotta go back to the singles grind

[@prodextendo9677]

Rip pre patch z-dash. Gone but not forgotten. Also that heal the bug is hilarious I was wondering why everybody was transforming in dp 😂. Still didn’t save them tho

[@narutauxlyrad3008]

That Android 17 Combo was actually crazy. It had ton of resets so you couldn’t keep track but it did 17K dmg 😳

[@hudson2228]

With the vanish changes and the charge attack timing changes, hand to hand looks faster and smoother. I haven’t played it yet but it’s nicer to watch imo That glitch needs to be patched ASAP. If they wait too long, it will appear to the community that they don’t care enough. The optics will be terrible unless they put out an emergency patch.

[@alexferrier5732]

I have had mixed experiences with the patch so far. Positive: .-Vanish wars gone. .-AIS buried .-Insta spark less prominent (but still viable, needed to have a longer activation time imo) .-Slower beams means easier to dodge unblockable supers. .-Buff skills got buffed (give more dmg and cost less). .-Trunks vanish step cheese is gone. .-RIP Giants (nobody will miss them .-No more Android dash stall cheese. Negative: .-Z burst dash nerf was totally uncalled for, like, seriosly who complained about it? Nobody, this felt random af. .-Revenge counter nerf also uncalled for, wasnt even strong to begin with. .-New combo mechanic where the further you are in a combo the faster you can charge a smash, this tends to make you drop combos cause it can come out accidentally if you happen to hold a rush hit for like 0.2 seconds more, gotta let go of the button real fast now, combos feel clunkier somehow. .-Super counter unchanged, needed a lock out mechanic. .-Health regen bug in DP (will likely get hotfixed anyways tho). .- Rage quitting still running rampant and no word from the devs on this. Overall the game is more a positive experience than before for sure, Im just salty about the Z burst nerf, I gotta main Insta transmission or full power charge chars now to stop people from insta sparking uncontested. Game still has ways to go, dont let the devs get confortable with it, they did good now for the most part, but game still needs more changes (and revert some changes)

[@christopherpalmer7837]

I also heard dp battles are buggy people are making teams over 15 dp

[@huk2617]

the "new" dash is so trash, it's literally just the regular dragon dash but 25% faster. not even close to a replacement for z-burst dash, feels bad to use too

[@koureyb7613]

W video! I was “run the set” it was my first game on the new patch so it was REALLLY weird for me on top of some lag from my pc. I gotta get in ur lobby’s and get some work in for sure💪🏽

[@alwuhugaming]

GG man. I don’t blame you for the playstyle… the devs really made it awkward for any of us to approach and fight lol

[@koureyb7613]

@ yea the change with the dragon dash is gonna be hard to adjust to. It’s damn near 3 ki bars just to approach, how do you feel about regular dragon dashing to ur opponent?

[@alwuhugaming]

@ not a fan either cuz you showed me it’s not useful haha. The amount of times you were able to just disengage after I approached made me stop. It’s very easy to disengage now

[@thickdynamic4669]

I messed around wtih super Zarbon this morning and high tension is amazing now. Only costs 2 skill points and still gices the 2 ki bars along with the buffed buff

[@Angeloss1213]

The z burst dash nerf is actually great. It was way too easy for every charachter to just launch the enemy away and then use the z burst dash to start another combo from the back. The only way to escape this was to do a lot of super counters until you had more ki than your opponent. This was a big problem fighting against androids with passive ki gain. Also z burst dash was pretty much the only option to close the distance when being far away. The new dash mechanic is great to get closer and start the approach. You can still pressure the opponent after you launch them by slamming them into the ground or using the circle or B button follow up. The z butst dash loop was a boring and too easy mechanic, now it costs a lot more so that it's not possible to repeat it forever.

[@lavanda1605]

This^. Finally someone said it. Z burst dashing was busyed

[@nathan4553]

exactly! it is a mechanic that requires almost no skill, no reason not to do it, leading to repetitive matches, now you actually need to think of what to do with your ki

[@Angeloss1213]

@nathan4553 I agree, it was boring to do and very hard to escape since the enemy increases his ki while attacking. Now you need to actually finish the combo and think how to follow up depending on your resources.

[@Dredabeast95]

Would you consider yourself a passive style player?

[@Angeloss1213]

@Dredabeast95 not at all, but the z burst dash loop felt like a cheap way to be aggressive. I like to make long combos by resetting using different methods to follow up (like launching the enemy at the right height and using the O or A button to make the enemy stop on the ground and start a new combo or using the up triangle and stopping the combo). The problem is that the z burst dash loop still was the most efficient way to deal damage but it's repetitive and too easy to do. It didn't even felt aggressive since it's such a mindless thing to do. You're rewarded for doing the easiest thing in the game and for not using different options.

[@AverageDBFan]

I was not going to touch the game until you analyzed the update first hand and I’m glad you did early

[@shooper3472]

No point in supers anymore because everything is too expensive unless you use instant sparking

[@goondo23]

idk wether i like this update or not ima have to watch ur vids for reference

[@SScoRPio96]

will you do a video analysing the new mechanics with videos comparing before/after??

[@LeelosAdventure]

They improved every aspect of the game and then broke the health switch system in dp. So disappointed in the devs

[@ryanghraizi5431]

My opponent always gets full health when swapped out but never for me, it’s actually game breaking they need to fix it ASAP

[@dizzenios1716]

Bandai doesn't usually have much quality control, it's one of the reasons why most of their games just decay pretty quickly and last by being held in a dlc lifeline. So I wouldn't be putting too much hope on an emergency patch any time soon either. Only reason y can think of them nerfing the z-burst dash was less out of a spite for agression but rather, because they saw it as a consistent strategy people would rely on. Mind you, if there was really more to do at a range, it wouldn't be much of an issue, but a lot of the times there's not. I think it's a huge L more so considering we never got a proper nerf on super counters.

[@JuliusRoweEka]

Gohan literally has full power, use that more to z burst dash

[@wichiewamirez5599]

I feel like they nerfed aggressive combo gameplay. They just want people to charge ki and spam supers. Idk

[@BoseAsante]

I think its the opposite now lol, you needa know to actually play

[@wichiewamirez5599]

@ what do you mean? The z burst dash nerf has made approaching so difficult. So knowing how to play is what? Playing passively and running away and charging? I don’t know what you mean by knowing how to actually play

[@pklifeupa7064]

Goku Black and Perfect Cell stocks going up.

[@platinumpenguin1]

I havent played the update yet, but as an Android 18 player i initially thought she was going to be mega nerfed, but nowIi see that is the opposite 😂

[@davidtrezeguet1467]

There is another bug. When I was playing today, the dp match finished I had 4 characters still alive and the oponent was playing 2 character team (ultra instict sign goku + ss kefla)- I still lost. I feel like the input delay got even worse (on ps5) - the game is borderline unplayable even with the controller plugged in. (I live in Europe and I've got 1 gb fiber optic internet connection) Everyone's just stalling holding perception and sidestepping and when you perform the z burst dash, you're basically always in a disadvantage. They did nothing with the rage quitting, you still can't even report them. Great job namco lol I wish I bought this game on a blu-ray so I could sell it

[@Filet_Mignon22]

Maybe it's not a bug but a new way to win? Like whoever did the most damage gets the W over who ever has more characters.

[@davidtrezeguet1467]

@ they would've said something

[@Filet_Mignon22]

@@davidtrezeguet1467 why assume that? They never even announced how to win dp battles in the first place if I'm not mistaken.

[@davidtrezeguet1467]

@@Filet_Mignon22 you've got to be trolling

[@InSayain]

Input delay with 1gb fiber optic? Bro has lag on the sticks😂 I don’t think it’s the game homie

[@Eric-fs9qq]

Do goku ssj4 amalysis

[@c0wboys4life]

Luckily I enjoy singles more cuz team battles just waste so much time in a match the time will pass you by if you zone out playing this game. I doubt I’ll play too many DP matches till they fix it but patch is ac start in the right direction

[@darky9751]

The new meta will probably be androids dominating the play

[@brandonaguilera5713]

Any character with full charge and instant spark will be op because having ki advantage is even more important now

[@Bamsokleen]

Please do a Uub character spotlight. He’s my favorite character cuz he’s the only black one fr😂

[@TuskyBaby]

When they said they increased Z-Burst Dash Ki cost I NEVER thought they would flat-out double it. Actual "what were they thinking?" moment for sure.

[@AnthonyQuinnJr-nr8ep]

Can I get some android 16 gameplay. He’s all I use😂

[@alwuhugaming]

Literally uploading a video playing him HAHAH. Gonna take another 10 mins to process. Spotlight on him soon too

[@ChristianSedaTalks]

Full Power Charge and transformations that refill ki might be meta to finish characters off

[@narutauxlyrad3008]

It always been meta. Low sweep into Full power charge into Masenko or Broly transformation into « It’s time for a blood bath 😂 »

[@jt-mx4on]

Same with instant transmission and health regeneration

[@matteomontalbano2236]

Alan what do you think about the switching mechanic? It seems like we now regain 5000 Health

[@InSayain]

I think you mean 50k😂 the glitch nullifies the update

[@matteomontalbano2236]

@InSayain Hahaha I meant the regular health recovery. I'm well aware of the glitch it's killing DP, absolutely unplayable

[@rikiponcho]

they apparently fixed trunks bug

[@commenter178]

I didnt like how Z burst was spammed to get in (i used it also) but 2 bars is too much haha maybe make the foward dragon dash i think its called (R2 + X on PS5) even faster

[@wildcardlife]

I'm A4, just won against an S1. Love the new update, the game is much more fair and a bit slower, it allows to add variety and strategy in more depth in my oppinion. This is great !

[@TheClutchUDF]

i didnt believe you when you thought Z Burst Dash was gonna be 2 Ki bars, thought that was too much, I bet they'll nerf it back to 1 bar and a half

[@gayal.c5026]

Thx again for quality ~ Could we have a "super janemba" spotlight ?

[@shariflewis9644]

My favorite streamer your content is simple but still fun, all the extra bs other people do is annoying so thank you

[@shoking2677]

Gotanks and Vegito look like they might be strong picks this patch. They're 7 dp so they can fight brolys, and they have full ki regen skills to keep up z-bursts.

[@LordCartmanGaming]

I used to be good at vanish wars, now I barely manage to vanish once. It's frustrating

[@adegboyegathompson8796]

I thought I was the only one, I'm trying to practice it before I go back to ranked and I'll get to the second vanish maybe twice in a 5 minute span of CPU training

[@LordCartmanGaming]

Like I appreciate no majority of matches being vanish wars, but it just feels incredibly off. But maybe I had a bad day today.

[@huk2617]

@@LordCartmanGaming It's pretty similar to before on the first wave but on the second you have to hit rb a bit before when you would before. try pressing it faster instead of delaying like before.

[@luffysmile9618]

Love your videos bro

[@eugenekrabs8031]

They take 2 months for an update while the game is super broken and felt underdeveloped in some ways and then the update has a glitch that makes dp unplayable. Bandai just doesn't give a f bro it's crazy

[@Filet_Mignon22]

Out of curiosity what was super broken about it?

[@eugenekrabs8031]

@Filet_Mignon22 instant sparking mode, unblockable ults, ki blast spam, android 19 and dr gero, dr wheelo, unblockable dash for giants, lock on mode afterimage strike,timer in dp so all you have to do is just stall and there's probably other things I'm forgetting right now. Another problem with the game is that there's literally nothing to do I reached Z rank in both dp and singles and I don't fell like there's anything else I can do right now the game just needs some more game modes like 2v2 or something.

[@Filet_Mignon22]

@eugenekrabs8031 most of those aren't "super broken" that's just gimmicks characters have that make them strong. I thought you meant it actually started off in a broken state. The only things I would say are broken that actually needed to be fixed was giant super dash and no penalty on ragequit

[@eugenekrabs8031]

@Filet_Mignon22 most of the things i mentioned got nerfed or fixed because they were trash but it should be like that since the beginning.

[@Filet_Mignon22]

@eugenekrabs8031 im aware they were strong mechanics that needed tuning thanks for clarifying. I just said that we have a difference in opinion on what is "super broken" and what isn't . I just thought you meant actually game breaking bugs and stuff like the health bar glitch currently out and the no penalties on rage quits.

[@soundcloudo5007]

I’m loving the update singles been a lot of fun and you can still play aggressive

[@Chiraqtown1]

The singles meta is full charge power but I like the update a lot gotta lab it up once I hit Z rank ill be on DP battles. Turtles have explosion wave and all his skill points r 2 points 🐐

[@chinguirrisguiano]

Day 8 of asking you to do Dabura. Someday it will happen 🙏 I haven't played the new patch yet but it looks... strange? Not necessarily bad, but not very good either. It messed some things and fixed others as far as I can tell

[@kevinmagnus7293]

Post 12 on my teen Goku coming soon. I have very varied feeling on this update but I do feel like the lower characters just aren’t as fun to play in a lot of instances

[@CynicalL3NS]

@alwuhu I hope you see this bc I have 2 questions: 1) *do you plan to start super countering vanish wars more than before this patch?* and 2) *what character and skill needs buffed the most?*

[@MonkeyDCaleb]

Man that really does suck. Being an aggressive player like myself when I run to these kind of people I'm not going to run it back anymore. I think this strategy is fair when there's a balance between teams. I use DBS Goku Vegeta and Broly and I thought someone who used the freezer family against me. He tried to stall out and bait me, But I won all three matches in a row. If he had four or five characters instead of three he would have beaten me. I also realize, to beat this kind of strategy you need a character who has a five or four start.. And it goes into an eight or higher DP character. Once the bug is fixed where they heal at the end that's a good strategy.

[@InSayain]

Tbh your team kinda makes me gag.. I get it but only 3?

[@MonkeyDCaleb]

@InSayain Yes. Three characters is more fair and balanced for DP. (It's not three Everytime, S ranks and Z ranks got me using 4 to 5) But 3 team is what makes the game fun.