Me: Been playing TS2 with cc and mods for years. Cindy: Do you want to know how to install cc and mods for TS2? Me: You bet I do
@hithere63362 жыл бұрын
How do you install lots and Sims?
@marcosmencaramartin40613 жыл бұрын
completely out of context but i really think you’re one of the best simmers out there!! you’re always helping other people enjoy more and more this franchise. it really honors you as a person🥺
@PleasantSims3 жыл бұрын
Aww, thank you so much Marcos! That's so kind of you to say!
@thesims2university3 жыл бұрын
yes! she always engages with her community!
@aaliyahharrison609 Жыл бұрын
I tried your method Pleasant Sims nothing worked for me I don’t know what to do now
@arnaugis24843 жыл бұрын
last time i was this early the sims 2 was available on origin
@PleasantSims3 жыл бұрын
😆 😆 😆
@sabirahnova3 жыл бұрын
OUCH
@hjnhjm27483 жыл бұрын
is it not? i still have it on origin
@arnaugis24843 жыл бұрын
@@hjnhjm2748 it is if you got it a couple of years ago, but EA has made it so that there are no means for new players to get it
@hjnhjm27483 жыл бұрын
@@arnaugis2484 okay thank you
@alenaw96023 жыл бұрын
Cindy all professional pronouncing "cache" :D
@PleasantSims3 жыл бұрын
I didn't want to get harassed in the comments for the next 30 years. LOL. But you know in my head I was saying cash-ay. 😆
@luke_miint3 жыл бұрын
Remember to delete your cash-ay on the Terlit
@hunnicinnabunni26723 жыл бұрын
You have no idea how handy and extremely detailed this video is for me. I’ve been playing since I was 12 and always struggled installing CC, Im 22 years old so you making this video is super thoughtful and helpful!! Thank you😭😭
@PleasantSims3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@marielledelaine3 жыл бұрын
I love that the modders are active still! Or again? Or new modders checking it out due to all the hype? Y'all are saints.
@champagne67633 жыл бұрын
I wish EA wasn’t weird and just put sims 2 ultimate edition back on origin 😔
@aleebee59113 жыл бұрын
The 20th anniversary is in 2024.. here’s hoping maybe they bring it back or something 🥺😭
@fraisier37103 жыл бұрын
Well u can download it on igg games :)
@nene38573 жыл бұрын
And put the community site back up!
@infinitedezi3 жыл бұрын
@@aleebee5911 you can download it on old games
@aleebee59113 жыл бұрын
@@infinitedezi I honestly am a such a burn out because like a week after I made this comment I realized that I apparently do have the ultimate collection? I bought double deluxe back in 2012 and I don’t remember doing the code thing for ultimate collection in ‘14 but apparently I did 🧍🏼♀️😩😂
@PlaystationSimmer3 жыл бұрын
> When you already know how to mod the game but you watch anyways for Cindy
@NeoDarkling3 жыл бұрын
One of the best take-aways from this video: Keep your CC ORGANIZED! When I started modding TS3 (I played TS2 vanilla until after I started adding CC to my TS3 game) I downloaded tons of CC...and then just dumped it all into my Mods folder, no sub-folders at all. Needless to say when I finally started to cull the content I didn't like or want, I was greeted by an unholy freaking mess! Lesson learned. Now my sub-folders have sub-folders--the OCD is real! 😂 I even keep a folder in my computer with images of every piece of CC I have, meticulously labeled and organized in folders, so I also have a visual record of what everything I have. How the heck am I supposed to remember what "Kalypso_Ophelia-VP.package" is!?! Great video!
@lord_neytan3 жыл бұрын
This is perfect for us moderators to just link it. It's amazing how much I link your tutorials for others. You just get the perfect topics to cover 🤗
@PleasantSims3 жыл бұрын
Aww, thank you Neytan!! I hope this will be a good resource for the future!
@safehaven98753 жыл бұрын
I agree neytan. This will make our jobs easier if anyone asks
@MusicLiveOn3 жыл бұрын
You should make an "answering sims 2 questions you've always had" and try to answer as many as you can. Some of us may have very specific doubts that don't really relate to a specific thing, but are still wondering??
@PleasantSims3 жыл бұрын
That's a good idea!
@mossy94023 жыл бұрын
Me: Someone who has downloaded and installed cc and mods for years Also me: I'm still going to watch this :') lmaoo great video for beginners, very nice of you!
@SelemaTatsuhiko3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t played the Sims 2 in like 10 years and I found myself missing it recently. I used to be big in the CC scene but I was also young and stupid so your videos are not only a beautiful refresher but also incredibly helpful. I find myself learning so much and your approach is very straightforward that it’s reassuring and comforting. I couldn’t have found your channel at a better time!
@rachelsmith77133 жыл бұрын
I feel like you have the perfect timing. Thanks to me binge watching your videos, I *creatively* downloaded the Sims 2 Ultimate Collection and was literally just trying to find out how to install mods and CC
@EmblaDK3 жыл бұрын
Creatively 😂😂
@stephaniemarsingill19812 жыл бұрын
omg same! like word for word same lol
@electricaquarius3383 жыл бұрын
I've been modding the sims 2 since 2007 but I'm still gonna watch this anyway
@dylan_18842 жыл бұрын
As a guy who has been trying to play the sims 2 again for many years, this vid is extremely helpful! Thanks girl 💕
@graysonkp3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, this was back when EA didn't literally build mods into the game. I guess they realised that 70% of simmers mod their games.
@melaniegreenwald24523 жыл бұрын
OMG THIS VIDEO WOULDVE BEEN SO HELPFUL TWO DAYS AGO🤣 When I saw this pop up, I smiled so much! I just redownloaded the Sims2 and put in CC! I was so confused and had to use so many old forums to figure out how to convert my files and download CC! I hope everyone can benefit from this straight forward, amazing tutorial and not struggle like I did just yesterday☺️
@meeshafountain99133 жыл бұрын
i dont play ts2, nor do i even own the game, but i find myself watching all of your videos while doing homework because your voice makes great background noise and they're entertaining without me having to dedicate myself fully to the video, love your channel!
@loonaboop27203 жыл бұрын
I just went on a CC shopping spree today for the sims 2, great timing xD
@krystinaiandolo25403 жыл бұрын
Girl where were you fifteen years ago when i was trying to figure this out. You’re a life saver I swear!! Love your content
@dianas75492 жыл бұрын
I love that you suggest people who are new with cc and don't feel too comfortable to just stick to recolors for existing items in the game just to get a feel of how cc and downloading works. I also love that you mentioned the different types of cc. The recolors for existing items, recolors for items that were made, separate cc themselves and even mentioned that some cc replaces existing items and how to check on your cc and ways you can remove them, but explained the safer way to removes cc. You were very thorough and very clear. Some short years back I was trying to install cc onto my sims 2 and the videos I watched didn't really explain much, it basically left me messing up my game to where I had to wipe the sims folder completely just to get rid of the problems without mods. I'm still not sure if I want to install cc, since I'm not really a cc fan I love the game's original content. But if I do finally decide to give it one more shot, I am most definitely going to use this video to help me.
@duartsy3 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe this timing, you uploaded this right after I started installing the sims 2 again! Thank you so much I didn’t really understood how lacking the sims 4 was until I realized how exited I was to play the sims 2 again
@JazzGaming263 жыл бұрын
Very straightforward and to the point. Once I figured out how to add cc it's hard to stop
@ytaaalx3195 Жыл бұрын
Same
@noelleholiday78893 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I was thinking about how to put custom material in my game and then I see that your video just came out. I am very lucky that my favorite youtuber simmer uploaded a video about this
@PleasantSims3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@mingus_catalog3 жыл бұрын
Watching this quickly turned into me trying not to giggle for 20min because you had a file called wet short bold fart in your downloads
@yerawizard32803 жыл бұрын
Me watching this knowing full well how to download stuff, but still enjoying myself and nodding along 👁👄👁
@catdadfurlife96062 жыл бұрын
Hey, I know you probably won't see this, but I've been a huge fan of yours for years. I'm FINALLY using your videos to get my *creatively* downloaded Sims game to work. Thank you so much. You're a huge inspiration and a fantastic human being.
@AuriaAmethyst420103 жыл бұрын
Cindy ohmygod you don’t know how much you just changed my life with the application for changing names of things en masse. Sweet baby Jesus. Not even my sims games, cos I have only like five mods rn, but my JOB, girl. I do document management and nobody ever like trained me they just threw me at it and I manage so many databases and they’re always giving me new ones (old ones, really, really old ones) and being like hey clean this up so its usable and I have spent HOURS changing file names and never knew this existed. I have only just started watching your sims content but you have gained a forever loyal fan for revolutionizing my entire professional life just now
@patricias4fun3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this video. I actually never even knew sims 2 had cc/mods until after I discovered that it was a thing when I played sims 4. This is an extremely useful and helpful video and I appreciate you taking the time to make it.
@Niagat1893 жыл бұрын
I've been playing the Sims 2 for so many years but never used any custom content out of fear i'll ruin my game completely and break my computer and last week i watched this video and i understand EVERYTHING! The way you explained everything is so good, i'm downloading and using all the stuff i want and everything works! Before that i was playing and thinking "oh i wish i had this and that in my game (like fancy dresses and hair and some furniture and decorations)" and now i can actually go and download it, i'm amazed incredibly! Thank you so much for making such a useful video, i love your content
@prinzessinnenundraben8023 жыл бұрын
Cindy: Tell me what other beginner questions you want answered - Me: How to install mods in The Sims 3? Cindy: - about The Sims 2.
@missydiabolical76963 жыл бұрын
Another reason not to directly delete an object from your game catalogue: It will delete the base item mesh, but not the recolour files, so you'll have recolours in your downloads folder taking up space and doing nothing. We call these files 'orphans' and there are tools you can use to detect them, but to save the hassle later it's best practice to note down the name of the object while in game, then find it and it's corresponding recolours in your downloads folder and delete them manually. Great video Cindy, as always :)
@SimsADilly3 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial! What about a SimPE tutorial? I know a lot of people are struggling with it :)
@orionvk3 жыл бұрын
Oh yes please on this! I’ve never been able to get my head around it
@sims2003 жыл бұрын
YES! I need it.
@david-km5fw3 жыл бұрын
Me still trying to buy the Sims 2 without getting scammed 👁👄👁
@jewelgomez26483 жыл бұрын
Don’t buy an account on eBay they change the password after a couple of months it’s awful all my progress is gone
@AbiRose5393 жыл бұрын
@@Laneical you should change the password on it, most of the time the origin password is the same as the e-mail password
@Laneical3 жыл бұрын
@@AbiRose539 don’t worry i have changed the password!!
@AbiRose5393 жыл бұрын
@@Laneical make sure you change the e-mail password too so that they don't change the origin password via the e-mail
@promptolover3 жыл бұрын
honestly you should just pirate it at this point, its abandonware so its not even illegal
@oddieshow3 жыл бұрын
This is crazy! I was just thinking about getting some mods for my ts2 while watching random legacy with Goody Woody! Literally twins! 😂 Love you Cindi! Ps. I miss Trashy 😭
@aspirationfailure61003 жыл бұрын
Trashy is stuck in sims 4 😭
@oddieshow3 жыл бұрын
@@aspirationfailure6100 and in our hearts. Real Icon.
@PleasantSims3 жыл бұрын
Lol! Thank you for watching! Don't worry, we'll get trashy back someday.
@rebelnili3 жыл бұрын
I watched a bunch of juno birch sims 2 content, so I looked up some tutorials for the game and found you. To my suprise I discovered that I own the complete collection on origins, so with the help of your videos, Im gonna start playing the game after 15 years
@PleasantSims3 жыл бұрын
That's awesome! You're gonna have so much fun!
@ummmjared3 жыл бұрын
Yes please make a more detailed video on default replacements! I got the new hair system you recommended in your making Sims 2 look better video, and that was pretty easy to install cause it was all in one file, but I have no idea how to go about replacing all the clothes individually lol
@FallenAngelHiroko3 жыл бұрын
You're awesome! I never could figure out how to do it through Sims 2. You're one of the best simmers and reignited my love for the series and help keeps it alive.
@MsCastle19963 жыл бұрын
HERE FOR THIIIIS! It's been over a decade since I played the Sims 2 and I've completely forgotten how to mod the game so this is REALLY helpful. Thank you so much! ❤❤
@hurremsultana70023 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else remember the now defunct CC site "All About Style?" I can't even play TS2 anymore because I'm on a Mac, but gee, do I miss their plethora of historic Sims 2 CC.
@sillyface12 жыл бұрын
Hey! i know this comment was made a year ago, but if you haven't looked already, an official Super Collection of TS2 is up on the app store for 30$ last time i checked! You can still install Mods/CC on it, it's just a bit more tedious in my opinion. The Super Collection has a few expansions and stuff, but not everything unfortunately.
@galaxygamer86943 жыл бұрын
Try maybe how to install cc worlds since I don’t know how to
@michaelstevick77593 жыл бұрын
I love MTS. It's been my go to since 2009. :)
@procastination_is_my_passi4182 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! I stopped playing Sims 4 because it was so boring and I decided to go back to the og and buy Sims 2
@abelzcz3 жыл бұрын
Omg, back in the days, when I started playing the sims 2 the custom content didn't appear in the game, I had no idea why. One day my friend randomly changed the lowercase d of the downloads folder to uppercase and suddenly everything appeared in the game. Our minds were blown! 😂
@Ari180_RE2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your guides! I've been revisiting them since trying to do default replacements again along with adding cc to my game. I've been having trouble with them showing up but I'm hoping I can solve the issue. Thank you again Cindy!
@WindowsXPFrog3 жыл бұрын
I already know how to download and install mods but I’m just commenting for the algorithm 👍
@PleasantSims3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@flamingo29463 жыл бұрын
Really nice video, Cindy. I'm not new to custom content, but there where a few things that confused me still, such as the difference between new objects, objects that need meshes found in other pages/websites, etc., so that was very useful to me. I would also be interested in a video on default replacements and mod organization. Just mentioning it in case you're gauging whether people would be interested in that.
@shellyfixesupacamper53993 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I put custom content into the Sims 2 when I was a teenager playing it back in the day and couldn't remember how I had done it!
@todrire28222 жыл бұрын
I'm recently started playing the sims 2 again and its mostly the face, if you chose a different preset for the lips changes their whole jaw even if I like the jaw. plus I need more hair options! You're a blessing!! thank you for this!!
@Itzaric Жыл бұрын
The first tutorial I found for sims 2 mods was so technical it almost scared me away but I thought "surely there has to be an easier way" and thank goodness there was. I'd modded sims 3 & 4 before and it's just the same.
@duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa Жыл бұрын
Such a pretty pfp! I love FE and Sims too
@Cryssallis3 жыл бұрын
I've been downloading cc since like 2007 but you bet I'm gonna watch the whole video anyways
@beata20153 жыл бұрын
I just recently retried Sims 2. I find your mod videos very useful. I always welcome more tips tho! Still struggling with my organisation 😂
@lynniepi3 жыл бұрын
I was able to get back into TS2 last year thanks to all of your helpful resources! I was previously too nervous to try mods but you do such a great job explaining things. Thank you for all the work you do! 💙
@diamondinthesky47712 жыл бұрын
I'm watching this after messing up my game via insane download binge to learn what not to do this time XD Should've discovered this video sooner
@alycegallagher58873 жыл бұрын
I needed this video. I had installed 7zip, but my stupid ass couldn’t figure out how to move the files. Now thanks to Cindy I have the mods I’ve been wanting to use for ages. I want to build a statue in her honour.
@monicagirard34863 жыл бұрын
Hello Cindy! Thank you so much for answering my question about the "yellow triangles." I thought there was something wrong. So relieved that there isn't. I am looking forward to more beginners' videos. You are outstanding at what you do. :-)
@dnatelier2 жыл бұрын
the lovely switch that i have to watch a tutorial of how to get custom content in the sims 2 while i literally create mods for the sims 4, it makes no sense haha. thank you for making the tutorial!
@abbewinter92493 жыл бұрын
Me, literally playing modded TS2 when I see the notification: Oh! Tutorials! Teach me your ways oh wise one.
@BellaDovah3 жыл бұрын
Me sat here watching this, knowing just as much if not more about modding Sims 2, but just loving your content so much I don't wanna miss a vid
@JayaS253 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say that I discovered your channel recently and I've been binge-watching your Pleasantview LP and I'm really enjoying it :)
@reavanante21603 жыл бұрын
I've forgotten so much. I used to make custom colors, eyes, and stuff. I had more stuff thatn I remember, but a lot has happened. I was building my own restaurants and librarys, downtown areas, etc. I'm glad I picked it up again.
@ladyalesiel42093 жыл бұрын
Man I was just thinking about this! Your psychic I swear
@angelaroseneder79803 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this, Cindy! I never installed custom content until I saw this video. My sister had some but not me. I got some of the hairs from the beta version
@hanab.4753 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your video about CC organization! I'm always looking for ways to improve that, especially how to organize my mods.
@kerrykent93253 жыл бұрын
Yesterday I set up vanilla ts2 ultimate collection, today I dive into mods. Godspeed.
@rawrsims82432 жыл бұрын
Omg you literally just saved my life with this video tysm!
@aspirationfailure61003 жыл бұрын
This will definitely help new players with sims 2! 👏
@PleasantSims3 жыл бұрын
I hope so!
@luc83602 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I can't wait to get back to playing the sims 2. I DID have to stop at around 3 min in to cry laugh at the wet fart MP3. Thank you for that too!
@kevinzerpa91023 жыл бұрын
Thanks Cindy!! I was waiting for this, you are the best!!❤️❤️
@PleasantSims3 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@sosofia2723 жыл бұрын
im always binging ur mods list cus its sooooo good and ur website is so useful! thanks for everything cindy!
@noiz17623 жыл бұрын
still good to watch even tho ive been downloading cc for years lol this would be SUPER helpful for someone whos never done it before tho 😳 love how helpful you are all the time on your channel
@pinkcherryangel3 жыл бұрын
i was just searching all of youtube & google for this.. thank you!
@PleasantSims3 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@crisottotav98093 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! I always get jumbled when reinstalling the sims on a new machine - especially with the compatibility issues, and this helped me remember all the steps I was missing!
@koolisims3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I wouldn't get into a habit of using the in game delete button. Sometimes it can delete just a recolor and not the mesh itself, and for some inexperienced people it might cause messy experience with their Downloads folder. I think it could be cool to cover compressing files, since a lot of older CC is not compressed, therefore is bigger in filesize. Also, it might be good to make a video about the difference between slaved/repo'd and standalone, I myself get a lot of questions about it in regards to some of my recolors that are available for more than one age group. Also, maybe there could be an explanation of different "clothing kind" like top only, bottom only shoes, as well as using separates for different categories (with changing it in SimPE) etc - although that is more advanced I guess, not really for beginners. Great video Cindy, I think it will be useful to many many people, I really missed your Sims 2 guides!
@RanmaChanАй бұрын
Hello, have you using Sony Vages Pro. ? If ever you made the video on Fiona x Rumpel as couple and the characters are in the same screen together?💖💖
@lolahamburger79773 жыл бұрын
I know that you’re my fave KZbinr when I watch this even though I already know how to do this lol
@waretaSL3 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes i am ready for this
@PleasantSims3 жыл бұрын
I hope it helps! Thank you for watching!
@Ash-kw8ns3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I’d love to see a new sims 2 let’s play from you. The way you play is so entertaining.
@alyssapersinger59113 жыл бұрын
Yay! I’m so excited to try this out. I used to use cc yearsssssss ago but that’s when I was a kid and had plenty of time to mess around with it so this was a great refresher to get started again!! Thank you!
@lautarocony3 жыл бұрын
I dont even have the sims 2 but you explain so well that I have to watch it
@felizjueves02 жыл бұрын
is it okay to not download 7-Zip if I already have winrar to extract the files? would that work instead?
@ryukook Жыл бұрын
yes it does work!!
@helenadoyle33983 жыл бұрын
Omg thank you! I have been trying to find out how to download cc on the sims 2 for ages!
@PandoricaLost3 жыл бұрын
Omg, thank you for this! Your videos have made me want to play again and I definitely need a refresher. 😁
@Deanhughes5707 Жыл бұрын
I put the mods in the downloads file and when I start the game, nothing pops up about custom content added. And none of the mods are working.
@itszafta Жыл бұрын
Same for me.. did you find any solution since ? So maybe you can help me
@Deanhughes5707 Жыл бұрын
@itszafta nah sorry, I've given up. Sims 2 isn't as great as remembered. Maybe they'll update it one day.
@itszafta Жыл бұрын
@@Deanhughes5707 i found the solution.. i just used "sims2pack installer" but thanks
@ProfessorChocolateCake4 ай бұрын
@@itszafta That doesn't work either because it just says "Sowwy but this program cannot install .package files".
@Deanhughes57072 ай бұрын
@@ProfessorChocolateCake I guess you didn't find a way to do this?
@mariiakras323 жыл бұрын
Wet_short_bold_fart is the mood
@PleasantSims3 жыл бұрын
😆 😆 😆
@ughlylysenchantments20 күн бұрын
This is exactly what I was looking for and your website is amazing.
@jeileen18963 жыл бұрын
So one's gonna talk about that wet fart file at 3:36 SLFKGJLFSGLS
@yellowcatmonkey Жыл бұрын
tysm 💖discovering the sims 2 anew with your immense help 🌻✨
@TallTapper3 жыл бұрын
gamer moment when searching for "essential CC" i saw your list, some of them are rather interesting i just need to stop procastinating so i can play Sims 2 again the save i backed up in my OneDrive is probably corrupted, i'll probably start a new one, maybe just export the custom music but don't know if that would corrupt more
@srdjangavrilovic32323 жыл бұрын
Watching this even tho i downloaded and put 5GB of S2 CC in game today 😂 My best advice for people new to CC is read what the creators wrote about CC. Very often i missed downloading a mesh or when i didn't have UC I downloaded CC I have no packs for so yeah downloading and sorting CC takes hours,days,weeks. Also to aii new ppl in CC world... welcome to the addition 😊 Be prepared to deal with it 😂
@kristinkirtz84723 жыл бұрын
This was such a useful video. I have a pretty basic understanding of how Sims 2 mods work already but still enjoyed this. Thank you! Would you be willing to do a more advanced video about how to find mods that conflict with each other? That is my big struggle right now.
@marielledelaine3 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh the nostalgia, thank you for your videos!
@PleasantSims3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! 💙
@jessali_3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so so much!!! I've been wanting CC (and mods I guess too, though they've always kinda scared me) for such a long time, but I never knew where to start and all the tutorials were confusing to me. I know, I'm such a noob haha. So thank you for this super simple overview and explanation. I can't wait to try it out!! I will have to do all the downloading on another PC though because the one on which I play The Sims 2 doesn't have internet access. I hope it's possible to put CC and mods into the game from external drives? Well, I'll know soon enough. :)
@PleasantSims3 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can download on one computer and transfer to another. Will be no problem!
@jessali_3 жыл бұрын
@@PleasantSims IT WORKED!! I'm so hyped!! 🎉 🎉
@freshZK3 жыл бұрын
GURL. You literally explained everything perfectly. Thank you
@Jphaddad_3 жыл бұрын
That’s very useful for new beginners in CC but essential to remind people of specific details to this process! I have this thought: a video about sims 2 corruption?? Neighborhoods/sims/mods.... things to Not do to avoid corruption and so on. I have always known about it but never knew what these things might be or what it might lead to
@itscyberqueen133 жыл бұрын
OMG I asked for this video! Thank you for listening to my needs! Your channel is so great! Thank you.
@jesusalvarez98573 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, i'm kinda new in the Sims 2, and this was super helpful 💗
@PleasantSims3 жыл бұрын
You're so welcome!
@donotryon93893 жыл бұрын
Love your work! So passionate! Best channel on KZbin !
@donotryon93893 жыл бұрын
Although some vids, like this one, I just let run so you get the view :)
@Bryan_Dizz3 жыл бұрын
*me watching with my 3gb cc folder* : interesting...