Please Let Multiplayer Games Tell Great Stories | Spot On

[@rahmed71]

A lot more from Tam and Lucy please, the conversations are so well thought out and grounded.

[@spacecowboy7193]

Hey, Tell Tam he did a great job with that interview. He asked good questions and got a lot of answers. Saw a lot of content creators say the same about it.

[@young__blacksmith]

We ❤ Tam (& Lucy)

[@veryirishdude]

The real problem is FOMO (fear of missing out) because as someone who played destiny 2, but not from launch, I just completely missed out of the Red Crusade. If you tell story through multi-player, then there will be content that ends up getting phased out every time there is an update, and that's going to end up excluding big chunks of player base because I don't want to watch hours of KZbin recaps for the story of something i paid full price for. This is a bad practice and should be called such.

[@David050298]

That’s the main reason I decided against getting into Destiny. Knowing I can’t get the “full story” within the game was enough to dissuade me.

[@wedemboys420]

Yeah, these guys seems to like destiny alot but it's just not that enjoyable of an experience. "Casual" gamer or not, it doesn't have to be esports level but you do have to be the type who invests a lot of consistent time into only one game.....honestly that sounds alot like an esports player.

[@ionseven]

Microtransactions destroyed the industry. It's clear the dramatic drop in high quality output and everything pivoting to Game-ified shop scams happened when microtransactions were made more popular at the end of Gen 7 (not just horse armor which was one of many tests).

[@mace8704]

@@wedemboys420 I don’t even know if it’s just casual gamers. I like to hop around to different games and I’ve got a huge back catalogue of games I want to finish. There appears to be this expectation from developers creating live service games that I’ll be playing mostly their game with my limited free time for months/years to come

[@nlmaster9811]

Destiny’s gameplay is absolutely horrific anyway.

This show and The Kurt Locker are really making me enjoy this channel a lot more. Keep em coming, guys! Great work!

[@dingus2k]

this series is excellent! tan and are lucy are so natural as pals just talking games but there’s also great points and issues brought up in the content. cheers!

[@dingus2k]

glad to hear this from lucy who i know still loves ow. im so torn on the state of this game and it feels like blizzard continue to sink lower and lower…

[@LazarheaD]

The only thing that could get me back to the game and it's gone...

[@xxMordredxxx]

Loving this series,Lucy and Tam are awesome! Keep it up!

[@depoant]

4:15 "Thou must live, die, and know" cutscene in endwalker flashback...and here we go cry again

[@ChrisLT]

Agreed, Blizzard games have such an opportunity to jump into other genres or media to expand their world. Overwatch is one of those that I had no idea even had lore, until a bunch of summary videos hit around OW2. In conclusion, still bitter about Starcraft: Ghost because I want to see an Ultralisk from the ground.

[@deshaunfortune912]

Overwatch fighting game! And an animated series would be great.

[@FlutterSwag]

HOPE YOU LIKE WAITING 5 MORE YEARS

[@neighborofthedevil]

I've never played Overwatch but I can still name (or at least describe) several of the original characters because they were such a huge part of pop culture at that time. For me, it was never quite enough to get me to play the game as I didn't have a team of friends to hop on with but I'm sure it pushed a lot of people to pick it up. With Overwatch 2, I haven't seen anything to do with any of the new characters and there is zero reason for me to start playing that game. 100% agree that transmedia with the examples of Arkane, CP Edgerunners, The Witcher show even, are the way to go with these sorts of worlds and IP

[@Natsocenis]

I cant forgive Yoshi P for what he did with ff16, but ff14 has an incredible story, i think about it all thr time, and i haven't played it since endwalker launched

[@gustavom.4885]

Blizzard ultimately canceled the 2 in Overwatch 2.

[@retrosean199]

Star Wars The Old Republic made the mistake of drip-feeding new story content and many people (myself included) just gave up on it

[@JohnnyMRey]

Great job you two.... been watching your videos for the past few weeks and you're both spot on with trending issues in today's gaming industry,

[@DaringDan]

I really love this new show. Cheers.

[@shrineguard2778]

Makes one realize how important narrative elements are, even for 'pure' multiplayer games. The most popular multiplayer games today have some sort of backstory for the world, the characters, the seasonal changes. Not to say that the games that just focus on the multiplayer aspects (like maybe Counter Strike or PUBG) aren't successful, but I think people tire of just good mechanics and need some form of story to keep them engaged. All the more reason why Blizzard should get the OW narrative right. Great video as always. Really enjoying the new slate of videos that Gamespot's been putting out :)

[@godspeedthe13th]

Didn't blizzard absorb Vicarious Visions who helped make Destiny 1 to destiny 2 forsaken and also make the tony hawk remaster games?? Why isn't blizzard using their vast experience on making high quality pve games for the ow2 single player mode??? Why just give up??

[@MaasdamMike]

My copium ran dry for this game. All hope is lost. RIP. Looking forward to Embark’s games.

[@CaytonicCox]

I'm bummed. I would've liked to see an overwatch that was more story based.

[@nataliep6385]

I really hate that they removed general chat, when waiting in the lobby... So now I have to go on some internet forum to find people to play with? Also that they removed the voting cards by the end of matches.. + When one team wins, you can't even write GG in chat, because it's disabled the same moment a team wins and Play Of the Game comes. - It's a multiplayer game.. But blizzard somehows manages to remove most of all the social aspects to it? WHY?

[@Tigerpaw4000]

I've never played Overwatch (either one...not really into the genre of game in general) but I agree that there is enormous story potential with that franchise. I've watched a bunch of the character-focused shorts and found them very well done, not just because of the quality of animation but there are always teases about the larger world around the characters. The very first intro cinematic for the game showed a pair of brothers walking through a museum showcasing the history of the world where Overwatch takes place...yet it's ironic that Blizzard has really failed to invest in a product where the story is a focus. It's sad that Overwatch is being handled this way - it was Blizzard's first new IP in decades and have really dropped the ball on this one, as well as let down their die hard fans and perhaps scared off potential new ones.

[@focabox5594]

Some of the best RPG games out there actually have co-op: neverwinter nights, divinity, Solasta, Baldurs Gate... Non RPG games: Halo, Gears, Diablo, etc

[@robertkitchen3487]

Hi, enjoy the show. Any chance this can be also distributed as a podcast? Unless I'm mistaken, I'm not able to subscribe to playlist within youtube so I don't get any alerts when you post a new episode Anyways, great show as always

[@TMV420]

I don't think the length of these episodes could be submitted as podcasts but I'm not certain of that

[@bradroyer2210]

Glad I’m not the only one upset over no story elements

[@jeckek9936]

This is gaming journalism of old that I remember watching on a lazy sunday. More of this and these two hosts please. All game. No drama.

[@ShaunLevett]

I wonder if any of the lack of Overwatch content was also affected by the Microsoft purchase. Some of the higher ups deciding not to bother as they wanted to grab as much cash on the way out as they could.

[@WilliamSung86]

These are great

[@mellonious87]

Love the show 😁

[@pbjent]

Isn't the canceled Overwatch 2 story content a false advertisement?

[@SquidGangRiseUp]

While I don't disagree with the points your making, and it would probably be profitable for Blizzard to heed them, I can't help but feel a little franchise fatigue. Even with IPs I like, when I see the groups that own and make them endlessly beating their one good dead horse to make "Franchise: The Beat 'Em Up", "Franchise: The Cartoon Miniseries", "Franchise: The Cereal Brand", etc. I can't help but feel exhausted. It's like the Spaceballs bit about merchandizing but mindlessly loyal consumers are the punchline. I can't help but wish they'd have the guts to try and make a new IP from the ground up that could be the *next* Overwatch, but I should probably be sooner wishing for a consumer base that would actually be receptive enough of new IPs for that to be a preferable alternative lol

[@fromsoftserve]

Lucy and Tam are the best.

[@FlavourFool]

I want an Arc System Works Overwatch fighting game! Maybe even have it like Marvel vs Capcom: 3v3 with each side made up of one character from each category...

[@Gryphanii]

Was going to say, if they don't mention Warframe that they should check it out, can't wait to see where the story goes next

[@unchartedrocks1]

Overwatch can use the Arcane treatment & get adapted to a kickass tv show. I’m sure it wouldn’t be hard to get the original cast either.

[@mekman4]

Games have ballooned into this unsustainable bloat. Disney does this with cinematic universes, e-sports as you mentioned and of course the live service game. Middle men and stock holders chase so many dragons, and thus fail the audience, the product and the brand, routinely. If they can show a number ticking a little bit up during a trend it may make them seem _current_ to other share holders while nothing is really getting accomplished. I’m playing Tears of the Kingdom currently and I get PTSD from the tedium of anything that is neither the sky or the underground. Things are more interesting but it’s over-world still feels impenetrable. That might not be the case for real, but it’s a hard feeling to shake. Games would benefit from being smaller. I think a third dip into this Hyrule would start to see finishing returns if players have _to power through_ the next Zelda, as well. We have a lot of gaming choices. Meanwhile, I don’t know who to spray water on the statue and if I look it up online, I didn’t really _figure it out._ You _don’t_ need a big game to tell a story and you don’t need sprawling moments of just nothing only to to lose track of what you were looking for. Breath of the Wild _was a mistake._ Great Stuff, as always! Edit: if the third in this Breath do the Wild series ended up on this current Switch, I’d buy it to complete the set, if it wound up on the next machine, _I’d slip out of the compulsory investment into this tedium._ I like Nintendo but they cannot and should not bully me into _doing nothing._ It wouldn’t take will a third time to avoid their thrall, boredom undoes their grip. There should be a patch. Edit: I think they should just add updates or amiibos that just drop lots of shiny (even impervious) useful weapons and content into the game, anywhere and at anytime you wish. Something that allows you to engage with it as a game, _as you wish, a true toy box, that lets you break its rules, as you do as a child._ Fortnite, Rolblox and Minecraft are time sinks aimed at kids, don’t sell Tears of the Kingdom to _working adults in its current state._ Don’t discourage your audience. They’re on your side. Work with me Nintendo!

[@brainfreeze10]

I wish I could understand the uproar, but Overwatch's PvE has always been atrocious imo. I had extremely little faith this new stuff was ever going to be any different in the first place. I'm glad they're doubling down on PvP and competitive stuff, personally.

[@TheBeatlesFan86]

The dream team is back!!!!

[@ExUSSailor]

There's no money in storytelling, and, art. Game publishers DO NOT CARE what gamers want, they only care what their shareholders want. Capitalism is the death of art.

[@john_hunter_]

I think an Overwatch show would be cool. They already have the CG models ready for something like that.

[@noulo973]

The story isn't bad in my opinion but its the disconnect between the gameplay and the world. For example, Overwatch story has robots and bad guys with the heroes trying to stop them but the game is just a push or defend hero shooter. When there is such a huge gap between the story and gameplay, i would rather just watch the cutscenes on youtube or read wiki.

[@rythmikeffect]

Yes pleeeease😄👏👏

[@easylight6412]

Storytelling in video games is like salad at McDonald’s.

[@ApZodd]

I’ll take a movie franchise at this point

[@Nandini-v2b]

Good morning, SIR

[@RJ_____________]

such a good video, in my opinion

[@mohammadashikurrahman7530]

Rainbow six siege, for a multiplayer game has the best story/narrative systems out of all the other mp games. Kinda surprised you missed r6s here, like how do you not even mention such a classic/popular game.

[@itsdeonlol]

They should have just kept it at OW1 instead "OW2", because Blizzard couldn't deliver on what they promised us...

[@RiskyFriskyHandle]

Ladies and Gentlemen… I give you… Tam & Lucy, The Pickle Ticklers!

[@HULKHOGAN1]

Let all features be unlocked for those who pay full price. Micro transactions should be for free-to-players.

[@kevingame3198]

Well valorant has interesting world building and fortnite has a story but you have to search the internet

[@Konuvis]

I'm so over Overwatch it's not even funny. I played it a bunch a bunch when it came out but let's be honest, we've been wanting Blizzard to make animated series of all their IPs for decades at this point!

[@ionseven]

Nothing will change as long as microtransactions are excused. More like Game-ified Shops than actual games now. And we sure do know what shareholders want in these scams now, if the last 2 gens have proven anything.

[@ThadDePadua9928]

That Diamond Dogs patch. ;-;

[@jonahbogacki3017]

Good multiplayer stories? Not including MMOs, I never heard of or experienced any good multiplayer stories.

[@goji3908]

**Laughs in TF2**

[@andrewbrummett3371]

Rip overwatch

[@ilyasergeevich7621]

Please pray for Grand Theft Auto 6 out and rain in Novocherkassk city

[@jonahbogacki3017]

Overwatch has lore and a story? Since when?

[@doiranmajorsr.4069]

Stop making everything multiplayer 1st of all

[@SHADOSTRYKR]

Blizzard seems utterly lost, low hopes for D4

[@youbutstronger1453]

multiplayer games that are only "multiplayer" to push microtransactions need to f**king die, the marketplace is so oversaturated with them, while well developed single player games like Hogwarts Legacy make billions 🤙 I'm showing my age abit probably but I remember when games used to have dope campaigns and cheats and gaming used to be about fun, not microtransactions. Anything with a multiplayer focus above the main game/story is a red flag for me anyway.

[@franciscobarria2322]

Winton wouldn't treat me like that

[@thatRyzzle]

Pervs be like: I only heard Lucy say the word SOCKS thihi

[@ailia32]

Wow story xd

[@RobVespa]

To be fair, Overwatch 2 doesn't exist.

[@MIKlLLA]

Overwatch players get what they deserve 😂

[@fortresstraining]

Anyone know if lucy has an only fans?

[@lordeowstheking]

Their whole segment is based on who is the most annoying and whiny. The woman is winning at this point.

[@jedikye]

Proceeds to never give a good example. Auxiliary content isn't exactly a story by the game.

[@matisvegli1995]

Noone care this

[@KohlKovet]

Could have just played BATTLEBORN But blizzard fan boys...