QUADRANT SHOWER TRAY INSTALL - Waste pipe and tray install Part 1

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[@chloethegreybuild8655]

‘Ooooh. Watch those muskles go’ I absolutely love this guy

[@plumberparts]

Chloe Thegreybuild ha! Thanks Chloe. Glad to have helped!

[@brianhenderson2560]

what a brilliant genius who is fond of both plumbing and cracking

[@bobbiecool]

Most installers and DIYers don’t have the luxury of being able to get to the underside where there’s no ceiling underneath the bathroom. Like to see a vid showing how to install a tray from in side the bathroom only.

[@yensabi]

You should always bed those low profile shower trays on a wet sand / cement base as they are never 100% flat on the bottom and save yourself the headache of having to rip it out and fit a new one when it cracks......😂

[@slasher663]

Really love your videos mate! I have been a plumber parts fan from the beginning and love how you have taken it to the next level! Best videos on KZbin! Can’t wait for the double sided toilet install! Hold tight

[@aidanclaffey4878]

Genius work, so informative and a good laugh also.⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@tbs4liiife]

That slipknot shot cracked me up 🤣🤣🤣

[@steveroberts7936]

Hiya wot are the regs for drilling through joints for waste pipes if joints run in the wrong direction to shower flow thanks in advance

[@fasilbd8]

Awsum mate. What a funny guy. 6inch lmfao

[@V_Dubya]

Another excellent video. Please please show us how to do it when the ceiling isn't open below... Should I just use a flexible connector underneath to make it easier to join into the old pipe?

[@incorrect1844]

Pissing myself watching this 😂😂😂

[@Rondjrocket]

Thanks for the great videos, I just fitted a Coram shower tray and the instructions say using sealant on the underside of the tray will invalidate the warranty any idea why?

[@spikes2023]

Bradley cooper is now a plumber lol

[@davelaye7003]

i love black swan. that foamy ball is great for getting the fittings nicely glued. problem is, its too easy to knock it over

[@spencebespokedreams]

Can you show how to fit a riser shower tray and maybe a full bathroom fitout

[@jasonkerr8377]

Great video mate it’s getting close to 100k hope you get it soon mate you defo deserve it

[@antsmith8588]

Advice please.... Our bathroom is fully tiled floor to ceiling..... We have a quadrant shower base 800mm x 800m. The base is one with adjustable legs etc... Now all the videos i see show the base fitted and then tiled to the base afterwards..... How do make sure the edge of the shower does not leak when i install it ! The base fits nicely into the corner... So do i lay a 2 beads of silicone around the edge top edge and bottom edge of the shower base and then push it into the corner and then go around the top edge of the tray and silicone to the wall.......

[@undercrackers56]

I never realised, but the amount of "bum crack" displayed by builders and plumbers is governed by BS EN 806-4:201, part 6.3.6 Cracks and Erections.

[@llamedosr7843]

I only watch for the bum crack, I wasn't disappointed

[@WinstonTL]

I'm not interested in the plumbing, I think he is so hot.

[@johnsmith2016119]

Do any of his other videos have bum crack

[@stuartdoughty6580]

noticed you routed waste through joists. was this 42mm waste? If so, what size were your joists because i beleive regs only permit 1/8th to 1/4 of joist depth. For my joists (190mm) i'd only be able to use 30mm pipes) and so wont be able to run my pipes through my joists.

[@stuffoflardohfortheloveof]

Enjoyed this BUT......not sure I’d have the nuts to simply rely on just silicon to seal between the glass and the tray......I’m glad I’ve seen you do it as I’d have probably talked myself out of a glass screen like that even though really wanting it. Don’t suppose there’s an alternative sealer..?? 👍

[@darrengough2770]

Been a fan for a while and as DIY'er your advice has been vital at times! One question about Shower trap.... @ 9:17 you mention modifying the shower trap, what was this regarding? Reason why I ask is I have a high flow trap in my ensuite (24 litres per minute) but it tends to struggle with full flow from the shower (and I cant reduce the flow due to it being a push button mixer). just wondering if it was related to your mod? Are there any known cheeky mods to the insert of the trap to allow more flow through?

[@whitefields5595]

As the shower trap is above the garage, drill a weep hole through the plasterboard ceiling so if it ever does leak, you will notice it asap.

[@AMMO1981]

Love your videos! Im trying to replace/rip out the shower drain in my bathroom. It's a drain that was fitted into the tiled floor ( walk in shower style)!but now I'm looking to fit a shower tray and a new waste. How do I remove the old drain. Pls help

[@Gixer750pilot]

Awesome my next job . Dreading taking up the sheets to see which way the joist run

[@lizzyfloppet]

Hi , love the videos you do , is it ok to glue the shower trays ? different things I read say yes and no ?

[@MrJokerh61]

Top man thanks for all your help and advice 👍

[@DavidGarside]

Hi. I'm just about to order an 800 x 800 shower enclosed from my local Wickes. It can be bought with a shower tray too, but ask if I want a 765mm or an 800mm... Why and when would I need a smaller tray than the enclosure ?. I will be buying a riser kit too. Thank you.

[@zeroeffort1572]

I assume if you dont have access under the flooring to connect the waste first, then lay the tray down on top of the trap and screw on the waste top down

[@johnking5275]

Great videos. You skip quickly over the floor being level. How do you level a floor whch isn't quite plumb? Also, before I start to fit my shower, which plastic pipe is best.

[@matthewlynam2537]

I remember when I was installing a shower tray on site. First I had a nightmare getting it in because the walls were so close😂, then I was doing up the mini legs the shower tray had. Was wondering why it kept going down. Then lifted it up to look at the back legs and they have sunken into the floor 😂😂. That was my first day on site.

[@dw8750]

If the outlet angle is off to one side does it matter so much ? So not directly down to 6 o’clock, more like 4 / 5 o’clock?

[@cag9284]

Hi, what's the best plastic pipe cutter , up to 40mm I've had some shocking one's and all of them crap., I'm getting the hump now, what do you suggest?? Cheers.

[@andrewfletcher5845]

been told we can't drill holes in joists... not legel anymore. Is that correct?

[@richardpike9881]

What options do you have to fit this type of waste if you don’t have access from below?

[@netcalibur]

about to ask the same question.

[@M6JKW]

Great video mate thanks for posting 👍

[@kevincurley5065]

Is there a particular silicon to use on that rubber seal or does any type work?

[@atommachine]

Got to bed my 1600 x 800 on a mortar base on Tuesday as floors out, canny wait ...only put it down the once thats for sure! it says do not use silicon on this tray to bed or warranty not gonna play play. Nice job there on your en suite .

[@DMC888]

atommachine that’s exactly what I want to avoid doing. Can you buy a 1600 x 800 base that doesn’t need to sit on mortar?

[@atommachine]

Get it right on a even floor to start with and a uniform spread of CT1 you could do it with my base but the floor is uneven so has to be mortar .

[@TonnerProductions]

Help! Do you always need to put a mortar layer down under a shower tray? Installing one in an upstairs bathroom on a ply floor. Many thanks in advance!

[@acestu]

How do you manage to thread rigid solvent weld pipe through the joists ?

[@johnadams1976]

Can you do one for if you don't have access to the outside from downstairs

[@jimsters1234]

great job. what camera do you use for these videos and is it the same one you use for walking around and talking to the camera? thanks

[@stevetowell6797]

Great vid ! What’s your opinions of Mcalpine flexi pipes with shower trays ..cheers steve

[@adamdecoratinglancashire9309]

thank you, you help me

[@glynnhancock9546]

What make of silicone did you use? What profile edge did you use on the glass screen between shower tray? Looking forward to see the next video.

[@alanrother8477]

What is all the silver gaffer tape for in the garage ceiling? is there something between the upstairs floor and the joists?

[@abscomm]

2:36 "I'll leave a link to..." no link left. Tut tut!

[@plumberparts]

I’ll pop it in on Monday night....

[@Matt-ve2xx]

Did you bond this to the floor?

[@tobywilliams7438]

Hi, I really enjoy your videos... I'm looking for some advice on how to start out in plumbing (I live in England). I currently work as a gardener, but really want to learn a trade. I'm 33 is that too old to start plumbing? What courses and places do you suggest to learn the basics? Getting an apprenticeship as an adult, is that possible? Thanks for help Best

[@Mozzer209]

What hole cutter are you using there James, mines due for replacement?

[@mattq5474]

Do you put plasterboard/aquaboard over the shower tray or butt the shower tray up against it? great videos!

[@ratchriat1716]

Loved the video

[@oneloveonelifeman]

What are the connectors you use for the gray 15mm plastic pipe??

[@peterhanlon5303]

How do you install the shower base if you cannot get underneath it from downstairs?

[@Crazyoldman84]

I recently installed my own shower tray I just propped up the tray with a block of wood then connected up the waste trap to flexible pipe. Then just drop the tray down. You don't even need to stick the tray down, they are very heavy and have silicon around the edges plus the shower screen fixed on top. If look up fitting free standing baths you will find they do it the way I explained hope this helps.

[@johncanty-diggins8082]

hi great site even i understand want to instal a shower cubicle how do i get services ready cheers johnny boy :)

[@SteveWigham]

Some serious camera stuff there PP. I genuinely thought you got a mate to hold an iPhone or something! lol

[@menotyou5065]

Great video - thanks. I'm about to fit a stone resin shower tray 700mm x 1400mm & the instructions say to bed in 5mm sand/cement. It's going on 22mm moisture resistant chipboard which is all level. Do i need the sand/cement or can I use sealant/adhesive like you have done? I can't see the need for the sand/cement - the tray's pretty heavy & isn't likely to move at all. If you think it's OK to use sealant/adhesive - what type do you recommend? Thanks

[@anthonymclean9743]

Always use mortar to bed it's not to stick the tray as such buts it to fill all the void underneath because the trays can crack..

[@Sickindian5]

6:30 what does that silver tape do under floor boards??

[@garylawton7254]

When putting trays on floorboards that are slightly uneven what's the solution.... Strengthen with ply or similar and level with shims?

[@rossboyer8879]

A good bit of ply to take the weight(if possible remove floorboards and screw to joists) and prevent movement

[@garylawton7254]

@@rossboyer8879 putting ply onto joists is better than ply over the floorboards then? Cheers for your reply ross

[@garylawton7254]

9mm or even 12mm mate?

[@rossboyer8879]

@@garylawton7254 the best floor would be the 18mm interlocking green boards.Not the loft boards but moisture resistant ones

[@garylawton7254]

@@rossboyer8879 so you wouldn't put it over the floorboards just ply straight over joists every time mate? Thanks

[@mufuliramark]

I’ve got a 1700 x 800 tray to lay and am in doubt about just using CT 1 to lay it with because the instructions say it needs to be laid in a sand/cement base. There are arguments for both methods but I’m stuck. It wasn’t a cheap tray, so to replace it is not something I want to do.

[@K-carbon]

Bed it down in mortar mix or tile mix done it with both 1000s of times both work great for me

[@relobmit]

Shouldn't the basin be on a separate waste to the stack and ideally be using swept bends for the 90s? Also regs. state max 3m run unvented for a 40mm pipe. Depends on the shower flow I guess.

[@tomg3131]

Timothy Boler yes but after 3 meters you up size the pipe to a 50mm waste

[@plumberparts]

Whole run is under 3 meters anyway!

[@markdavies794]

What was your adaptation of the flat bottle trap? My plumber does not rate them but I think that is cos they seem to clog up if a shower user has long hair (well my shower trap does).

[@dantheman8905]

Mark Davies I've used a few in properties I'm contracted to maintain as well. The oldest one so far is 4 years old and no problems at all. Also very easy to declog of any built up hair. Pricey though... and unnecessary for a job like this.

[@markdavies794]

Daniel, yeah easy to clean but something I hate doing!

[@relobmit]

I think some people cut 10mm off the bottom of the top cover trap tube to increase the flow rate (although this decreases the seal height).

[@Gixer750pilot]

So did this gurgle in the end ?

[@gkuk10]

Hi Great job Can I ask whats the gaffer tape on the joists for ?

[@royharrison5694]

gkuk10 nn

[@k.r.lionheart6460]

Base should set on cement

[@deanhaylock133]

I didn't know Ian poulter was a plumber?good vid though

[@seandey56]

What is the small blue tool called?

[@joeb6915]

Another brilliant video funny and informative as a plumber myself it’s nice to see. Got my fingers crossed on the competition on instagram. I love the product

[@richardgarner6457]

3760 without my tape breaking 😝👊

[@robroyratty9111]

love your vids would say though your joists have to many holes for cables bit of a week point

[@jamesfry5149]

Nice vid ! When's the next plumbing disasters 😉 Hold tight !💧💧💪💪

[@jaycarmona333]

my guy has his whole ass out

[@casaMariaPT]

7:50 to get to the shower tray

[@atapplumbinginquiriesandre3557]

What tool was that you used to cut out floor ?

[@DMC888]

Tommy Emmet a multitool

[@atapplumbinginquiriesandre3557]

iplanet77 thanks!

[@ayazmahmood8970]

WELDEN JOB ✌️ 👌

[@jennifercampbell7722]

Don’t you need a p trap on waste line?

[@vikingofengland]

A mirror would be no good for me to do my hair, because I have two willies, so need both hands.

[@simonmartin4599]

Set your video playback speed to 2x from 23:00 onward for superhuman lolz

[@wilcoleman9742]

Those joist aint got much strength left in them

[@mtvoss7595]

Talk about cheating working underneath 😂😂😂😂

[@RhysTAGOMOTOFouracre]

i received a lot of desync

[@25zerotwo]

With that glass wall they'll be no more having a cheeky word with yourself.. You'll be caught red handed.

[@loafersheffield]

6"s!!! Mines a foot, but I don't use it....as a rule!

[@northbouy2625]

I know It's been a year, but this comment 😂👌

[@stephensomersify]

missed the cable!

[@karljoensen]

the bog

[@jimmcgahon6961]

bad job connecting basin and shower waste on the same line

[@BABYCHAOS26]

Jim Mc gahon Well I wouldn't say it was a bad job, yes it's best to have individual waste pipes but sometimes you're restricted and have no other option. It's only a bad job if it's done wrong. Why do they manufacture tees and reducers if it's such bad practice?

[@jimmcgahon6961]

would it be good practice to install a Hepvo trap to prevent gurgling when water is being discharged

[@tommyftw4996]

No gurgling will not happen if he has the correct fall. Plus he can always use anti vac traps

[@D_pawson]

Vomit Man if you have a blockage between that tee and soil stack and empty your bath or basin the water will pump back up through the shower waste and flood your house

[@BABYCHAOS26]

D P you would notice a blockage well before it got bad enough to cause any problem (shower waste running away slowly) that's why you maintain your waste pipes and drains, if you neglect them that's when problems occur. As I stated in previous comment, it's only a bad job if done wrong. Having adequate fall prevents blockages as it's self cleansing and carries waste products away, leaving pipe clear. The only blockages that will occur is at the traps which are designed to be taken apart and cleared.

[@vinparaffin6082]

I take it you've got very small hands !!

[@joshuafortune4420]

7:26

[@briannelhams7322]

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[@philipbennett2183]

Just calm down, you seem to be really pumped ........ cant follow some of your info.

[@woodbine66]

Is it just me, or does 'Times With James' sound like a male escort service? :-)

[@Yann10232]

Talk a lot, takes forever before you get to the point. Blah blah blah blah blah. And forever blah blah.

[@kindofalycan1332]

This guy demonstrates just about every wrong thing with you can do with a shower install.

[@doloresmyatt9737]

toilet humour uhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! stopped watching.

[@Gixer750pilot]

dolores myatt stopped watching but left a message before you left . You are watching a tradesman working in a bathroom , what kind of humour do you expect ? 🚽

[@plumberparts]

Delores my bum smells. Sorry....but I guess you stopped reading this comment!

[@BABYCHAOS26]

dolores myatt if you're after serious instructional plumbing tutorials check out the American videos you can find on KZbin, they'll send you to sleep in no time. If you're after entertaining instructional plumbing tutorials, this is the place. Bum bum poo poo for now!

[@Gixer750pilot]

Vomit Man botty botty two handed tackle holding for the win

[@500stiv]

This guy is so annoying I can't watch

[@plumberparts]

🥰

[@alexandermcnally6308]

to much talking, sorry.

[@stanleyhindle6308]

The bloke is too annoying!! Stopped watching the Video .

[@plumberparts]

Thanks Stanley. Enjoy the rest of your Sunday. 😂😂😂