PLUMBING DISASTER JOE HOMEOWNER STRIKES AGAIN

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[@hamtramckchronicles]

Without seeing how everything was tied together to the stack in the basement, I would not have made any repairs up top. Just my advice- ALWAYS observe how the ENTIRE drain line is running before you make any decisions about how to repair it.

[@craigoman123]

I have been a plumber for over 25 years AND i was taught as an apprentice that there is no hope in plumbing. you make sure it's right.

[@dks13827]

I always have hope !!!!

[@stevedentremont3037]

That’s a real shit show mama!!!

[@Doomzdayxx]

lol

[@dtaylor5493]

Just starts yankin the fuckin ceiling outta the basement. Love it!

[@jimcervantes5659]

Kind of a dick move though.

[@gregsmith7391]

Think anyone would notice down there? 🤣

[@RockoRocko-rz7kx]

It’s good enough for this neighbourhood

[@MrDmadness]

That tied in line is intended to be a vent for the fixture... the reason it's gurgling is because it's filling the vent, you tied into a vent did not run enough water to properly test it cause 8t wouldn't have npbeen enough to fill the pipe and trap and raise to the level of the sink ( likely this happened that evening ) respectfully intended but I think you missed this one.

[@alejandroc7357]

He also should have atleast left the sink running. Gone outside and look in the cleanout to see if water was running.

[@JB-sx9gs]

I envy how you can be so brutally honest with your customers lol

[@rabbitbreed1]

It's called being Bostonian not honest..lol

[@TheTechGuider]

When He said this is terrible I started dying lol

[@TheTechGuider]

When He said this is terrible I started dying lol

[@joshdiehl8737]

I am fron NJ. Its called being from the Northeast. Brutal honesty

[@Samson484]

It’s called make your customer think it’s a terrible situation so you can con them out of more money. Then it just becomes ingrained

[@1957mrbill]

I wouldn't be surprised if you got a call back on that one someday.

[@stocharron2753]

Ya ever notice he uses sch 40 glue traps with those bs plugs at the bottom instead of sch 40 threaded traps , just like he pulles out his blow torch to sweet on a supply valve under a tight vanity instead of the compression style , just saying lol fn Steve & molloy the boss

[@onemorething100]

Me EITHER!!! Just connects a drain to an unknown pipe? Who the fuck does that??

[@richardordonez8331]

@@onemorething100 and tears the ceiling tile.

[@kenc.9067]

Unglued PVC fittings: I'll never forget the call I had where the homeowner's sewer line backed up, and the un-glued PVC fittings in the basement, for the kitchen sink drain line, separated, and flooded the basement with sewage. That was a literal sh**-show. Worst part was they were pack rats, so a junk removal company had to throw most of the basement contents into a 30-yard dumpster before I could deal with the plumbing issues.

[@WinnfieldCustoms]

holy shit mama !

[@keithmarlowe5569]

The hoarders show underestimates the number of hoarders. Basements like laberynths of junk, cardboard boxes stacked on counters like they just moved in but lived there 6 years.

[@loganjohnson2912]

@@WinnfieldCustoms , lol.

[@guydesnoyers8417]

I feel much better about my own repairs now. Thanks!! Merry Christmas!

[@cp-ln6qr]

"I hope this doesn't bite me in the ass". The job or the dog?

[@DDunc1020]

Ooof good one

[@jo6520]

Another great adventure with Steve the man who does it all! Have a good day

[@OnusBones]

While the cleanout makes me think the pipe coming out of the wall is a drain, for it to be loose means there's no way I'd use it before finding out exactly where it goes and how it is connected; but that's just me, and I'm a DIY, not licensed.

[@MrDmadness]

I'm ticketed and I wouldn't change it either. 8 have a small endoscope for tracking lines

[@onemorething100]

That was pretty fucking risky. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night not know where that thing drains to.

[@ghost2coast296]

like maybe a drain for a dishwasher? right next to the hot water line going through the same hole.

[@tmar23]

@@ghost2coast296 Nope the drain for a dishwasher is right on the tailpiece where it should be.

[@Dmgolfer22]

Yeah most of the water would go straight down into that pipe in the floor the way it was hooked up.

[@davidrichman8468]

Another happy homeowner repair, just stuck it together and didn't care 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ralphh.2200]

I have seen disasters by home owners plenty of times but even more by plumbers and contractors.

[@seanthiar]

Yes, that is right, because as a homeowner you do it for yourself and have to live with the shit/ see it everyday and a plumber/contractor just install it and does never have to live with it. If something is not right and inconvenient to live with they just ignore it, because they do not have to live with it.

[@ceedaddy]

The pipe coming out of the wall was probably a vent pipe and the pipe going out the bottom was the actual drain...

[@easystreet123]

That's what I was thinking, but why the clean-out on a vent pipe? I never cared for, do it yourself unorthodox plumbing techniques. It just adds a extra layer of complications to a problem you are trying solve.

[@aaronbaraiya3692]

My thoughts as well

[@danwittels5542]

That's about the craziest drain line I've ever seen, good fix 😀

[@d.ricc6421]

Water test time, the one in the wall might be a vent or old plugged up drain and they fed a new one up thru the floor? Whatever it is, the one in the wall wobbles like hell like it's not attached

[@jimdeck8670]

Oh here we go! Super tradesman and his KZbin advice.

[@MrDmadness]

@@jimdeck8670 ive been a red seal plumber my entire life and his comment here is I fact a good one. I believe Steve hooked up to the individual vent, as was common to individual vent fixture at the time house traps were approved. This drain was connected to a vent, you can see the gurgling in the "test" .msteve does excellent work usually, but this one's a bit off imo not tested sufficiently.. that was a vent, I'd bet on it

[@d.ricc6421]

@@MrDmadness thank you MRDMADNESS, This guy has nothing good to say on Steve's channel, mocks him, etc, I hoped the community sets him straight.

[@onemorething100]

Couldn't agree more.

[@pmdoit]

He keeps saying he's doing it right but he doesn't know what he's doing 😆

[@donaldgaudette4252]

your a good man Steve... how some people keep their homes is incredible

[@KevinDaley98]

You’re*

[@VR-ym8ys]

I think the drain is now connected to the vent and the water drains somewhere into the house. Whatever that pipe is apparently drains into the vertical pipe. Nobody should connect a drain to a pipe he has no idea where it's going. Not a good job.

[@ghost2coast296]

you can see the dishwasher to the left of the sink at 1:37. I think he drained the sink into the dishwasher lmao

[@RangerCaptain11A]

all the bubbles coming up out the sink drain makes me wonder. . .

[@rpurdy4821]

Doesn't that mean the pipes are not vented?

[@steverone7623]

@@rpurdy4821 most cars yes because the pipe is struggling for air Disclaimer I’m just a carpenter

[@RangerCaptain11A]

@@rpurdy4821 thats my thought - that 'drain line' is likely a wet vent from another drain.

[@dock_yard1149]

If it were me, once the loose down pipe was cut away, I’d have thrown a hose down each pipe for 5 minutes and seen f anything backed up on me

[@Vipedog1]

As you looked down the stairs I was saying to myself "don't go down there Steve". A real shit show. She musta been shrugging her shoulders to every question you asked cuz I didn't hear a lot of clear answers to the questions. This one coulda went sideways real fast if leatherface was down there.

[@repro7780]

All those pipes were loose as a goose, mama!

[@marks.4388]

Hello Steve ! Thanks for another homeowner's handy work!

[@picklerix6162]

It looks like somebody “flipped” that house.

[@rpurdy4821]

I think I would sue the house inspector if she bought that dump that way. Talk about a shit show mama. Woah! 😳

[@mitchvankesteren6771]

Of course you would! I’m assuming your American

[@boggy7665]

My home inspector spent more time telling me "If you want to sue me,... I have no liability" and whatnot, than answering my questions when I asked. I decided that I'd bring my own inspection checklist & do it myself if I ever buy another house.

[@Astinsan]

House inspections don’t uncover everything.. also.. not every buyer gets one.. then there is the fact that home inspectors are reporters and not the cause of the improper plumbing. Normally when a inspector sees meddling with any of the plumbing they will t er ll you to get a plumber to figure out how bad it is. The pex supply pipes told me and anyone else that the plumbing is suspect. I guarantee she was told he didn’t like what was seen but there was so much that was done wrong that no specifics were outlined.

[@markprescott6477]

@@Astinsan yes in many states home inspections are not required, and in the ones that are, an "inspection" is not a pass or fail, it simply points out issues to serve as negotiation between purchaser and buyer on the sale price. I am in Virginia so only time we have pass or fail inspection is for FHA, FDA loans etc, where septic / well inspections are required to pass. All other sales are "as is".

[@leeb.7188]

Most home inspectors are a joke. They’re getting paid no matter what and don’t really care. A mandatory home inspection is just another junk fee. If you want a real inspector, you have to hire your own.

[@ncooty]

The cultural differences are hilarious. That accent is the only thing that'd keep this fella from being thrown out of a house in the south. "He's not from around here, bless his heart." :)

[@bririce1959]

Steve it's Brian from New Jersey you helped me out with my bio fuel pump couple of weeks ago just wanted to let you know I really feel for you I used to work for a moving company where people's homes cleanliness was compromised really put you in a difficult position I know you deal with it everyday you do a good job.

[@nyang015]

This is one of those situations where you think it's gonna be simple and easy until you look at.

[@tylerpickersgill]

You dont even check were the plumbing goes before you connect it thats odd. I would never connect to a line that a shady handyman did without checking.

[@godbluffvdgg]

You're a good man for tackling a mess like that...

[@moocowdad]

never ceases to amaze me how people wont clean up, dirty toilets, leave clothes and garbage all over would it kill ya to be human?? sheesh

[@ggme4682]

Amen brother!

[@yambo59]

How did he arbitrarily determine which one was a drain or vent or what-??

[@NackDSP]

No kidding. He sent the drain water down the pipe it had never gone down before without looking where it went. That's why I do my own work.

[@gregsmith7391]

Did we miss seeing him flip a coin? I think he sent the water down a vent.

[@Brad1237202]

Love your channel Steven! The guys at the hospital get a good laugh from every video!

[@dock_yard1149]

Isn't that wobbly pipe a Vent, possibly? OK you said that eventually... But I'm thinking that now there's no more Vent on the line, and draining the sink gurgles up air bubbes. Wonder what will happen if the sink is full of water. No vent won't help draining a full sink. But she doesn't use the basket strainer so I guess the sink won't be filled up ever. "Good enough for this neighborhood" is spot on. Hope you don't get called back.

[@KrazyKuul111]

I think the sink in my apt doesnt have a vent (i could be wrong), but it has this black add on vent right after the p trap that looks like a small car oil filter (cast-vent brand, looks like an Oatey 39012). Maybe would have been a good idea to install one in this case. Id have been scared as hell to use that wobbly line that wasnt draining much water to begin with.

[@lonewolf744]

Hey buddy yea, We don't glue our plumbing,, We just slide it together, and drain it through the vent. Arrright ten.

[@jimsongworld8224]

Must be new type of push to connect fitting

[@Fireship1]

Good enough for this neighborhood indeed!

[@themayorofairconditioning2868]

Great job, thanks for the video

[@dosgos]

Ain't no Taj Majal !

[@tonym6920]

Hey Steve and Miss Molly! Workin’ again y’all. 👍👍

[@michelgrenier1878]

What a contrast in your area , You go from homes with 7 central AC's to poverty homes like this one .

[@catstevens5890]

How do people live like that, my god.

[@peoplesambassadordm8279]

That sink originally flowed in the floor... there is absolutely NO way that sink could flow to the left in that wall... as u met it , it looks like that Other pipe on the left flows into the main waste pipe running through the floor...secondly a thorough investigation of where the pipes are distributed and or sourced has to be done before making changes... In the end u condemned the floor and diverted ur waste water to the left in that wall.. but water cant flow uphill.. the cleanout looks higher than the TEE on the main indicating whatever in that wall is flowing into that main floor pipe... but anyway that's all from me ..I'd investigate properly before making changes

[@Garth2011]

Makes sense now that you draw attention to the clean out feature that was there. Either way, the entire drain plan is crap from the day it got put in there.

[@shemp308]

I would never make a living. This is one I would run away from.

[@ChrisG0]

Why it's not that hard and it's clean.

[@Doomzdayxx]

Meh. Steve's had much worse than this. Hell, I even have and i'm merely a DIYer

[@damianr1658]

The more screwed up it is the better. Feels good to know you did it right and way cleaner.

[@brikkijim]

I like how he just rips ceiling tile down without asking., lol

[@Soturi4k]

To be fair that place is fucked lol

[@gregsmith7391]

To be fair no one will notice down there.

[@porky7753]

Steven, great job slinging that Oatey juice around.

[@FattyFPV]

Only Oatey in this totey!

[@d.ricc6421]

If by chance you get called back steve pls video the job, I'm not sure if I would have chose any one of those pipes without further testing them. The water in the sink did not flow proper like the vent was cut out. The water was flowing in the vertical pipe when you got there, so I would have connected a trap to that pipe instead of the mama in the wall that did the watoosi.

[@brianwood4483]

And it gurgled cos there’s no vent!

[@richardordonez8331]

The clean out was a distraction. The installer maybe felt a fixture trap was redundant. The pipe in the wall might be on a revent. The poor drainage now is because the the pipe is back falling

[@geraldreilly8323]

Steve were in the USA are you based I'm a retired plumber and heating engineer from Scotland love your videos your just an honest tradesmen earning your corn but not bull shiting your customers you sound like a new Yoker apologize if I'm wrong I'm from Glasgow Scotland love your videos but remember it ain't easy being cheezy

[@ig_foobar]

Not all homeowners. I do all of my own plumbing and I have never messed up a job like that. Furthermore, I have seen plenty of "professional" plumbers just slap a fernco on it and walk away.

[@R-11034]

Absolutely agree - have just replaced a bathroom for my daughter which was installed by a so-called plumber. Every single waste joint was held together with silicone and was falling apart! There was no indication at any point in this video that the previous homeowner had done the work anyway!

[@keithmarlowe5569]

How bout a fernco cut in half and hose clamped over a hole in galvanized pipe. That's really "putting band aide on it".

[@keithmarlowe5569]

@@seanmcnally1132 The time I saw it, it was a blind veteran's house. Some people aint got no upbringing.

[@KevinDaley98]

@@keithmarlowe5569 ain’t got lol no education either it seems

[@allthecolors6900]

"i guess its good enough for this neighborhood..." Bro you are too funny. Lol

[@chatrkat]

Oh my Lord, that’s one of those you walk into, then very quickly walk back out of.

[@richardordonez8331]

The clean out wye was a distraction. The previous guy probably felt a fixture o-trap wasn't necessary because of the whole house trap. So where did it drain too? Did he convert a vent into a back falling wet vent?

[@buckdharma1029]

I would have bailed on that mess.

[@buckdharma1029]

@@kingpins9 True enough.

[@MrTiger0002]

I don't understand whoever did the work. All PVC on old house... means someone redid the work... so why the heck not do it the right way and tuck the drain in the wall... not to the bottom of the cabinet?

[@f.demascio1857]

A solvent welded trap in a kitchen sink cabinet? Why? I guess the c/o there makes it manageable. I would rather use tubular in an accessible space like that. Maybe the local jurisdiction requires it?

[@jojoglemond]

That is one of the finest plumbing jobs I have ever seen! No cement, no traps! Good to go!

[@mikebolger763]

Never a dull moment mama!

[@zigman1976]

“You want me to put it back the way it was and glue it?” Why do the sink drain wrong once when it can be done wrong twice.

[@williamjeffrey1222]

Number one rule to good management . Always inspect what you except . Steve I would have tested each piping system individually first . To find the correct piping system to correct with the Pee-trap problem . Even if I had to work with unglued parts to determine which piping was needing the correction the issue . By running water through it first while plugging off one of the water lines . To find the correct flow . I feel you assumed the piping with the cleanout was the correct GUESS . To me I think you chose by the look and not by a better inspection . Still yet,.. One miss is not make a strike- out . It may only become a back-up-an-regroup situation . Personally, your sight is the best trouble shooting example vid on youtube . Thanks again.

[@KevinDaley98]

Coming from a plumber?

[@KevinDaley98]

It’s not pee* trap btw

[@kdmq]

I thought the line going in the wall was just a vent, but if it was the sink would have backed up. So I really don't know why this guy would have put the line through the floor like that.

[@johnjacop]

2:22 “I found it like that, I swear” lol

[@DHxJarsyl]

I do my own work too...but generally I use PVC cement, lol. I also try to avoid random forks in the plumbing that don't go anywhere, I aint trying to make the water get lost in a maze.

[@oldironsfury]

Hey come to Maine. Owned three houses in Maine and one in Connecticut. I loved our home in Connecticut (build quality) Up here in Maine I love the life but man I’m not impressed with homes build quality. You can see a lot of beer and self proclaimed Bob Villas worked on these homes 😌😂

[@jdub976]

You know what they say...that glue takes way to long to use just slap it together. That was awesome.

[@KevinDaley98]

too* long

[@nenaxen]

12:56I looks like it's missing air vent when we see all air escaping over the sink drain. Needs to add ventless air drain valve at least to fix it.

[@dennisvolpini7117]

Love your adventures Steve, you really get into some prize situations. I've used a sawzall for 40 years, there's a trick to it, but i do deburr, use a utility knife. Don't think I'd have had the courage to just fix an unglued PVC "trap" without finding out where it all ends up.

[@highwolf8022]

That drain has no vent, I could tell by the way it bubbled when the water drained slowly down. Shit show is right. Sometimes you can’t fix stupid, all you is make stupid a little less stupid! I love your channel Steve.

[@niels1236]

Without homeowners trying to do things on their own, we would have a lot less work. So homeowners keep watching these KZbin videos and call us when you need the work done right the first time.God bless

[@NickyVEE89]

This dude has saved me probably thousands of dollars. I bought my house 4 years ago I have cleaned and serviced my furnace, replaced electrodes, nozzle, and tank filter, the pump filter, pressure tank, replaced all of my shut offs and some piping , all my faucets , just replaced my toilet that had a cast iron flange with lead and drain pipe that was a half inch above the floor, replaced the guts in the other one, replaced the resin in my water softner and cleaned it (thing looks brand new) and a lot of other things. The previous homeowner took care of his shit, a lot of it is/was 20 years old or older. I guess I wouldnt call it common sense, but ya dont gotta be a rockettintologist to do alot of these things. I have called an electrician once who actually re wired my basment right, and a (professional company) to come out and waterproof my basement . I got water in my basement a month ago. Sadly these days half the professionals suck, no body takes pride in anything anymore. And this is why if I can do something myself I am going to try. Because these days its a 50/50 chance whether its going to be a job done right the first time. And if I think and feel confident I can do it myself and save 500 dollars, I'm going to do that. Because I probably will do it better than 50% of the (professionals) out there today

[@axljames6596]

@@NickyVEE89 👍🏻

[@ggme4682]

@@NickyVEE89 Spot, spot spot ON brother!!

[@supporterofeverythingyouli6255]

Asking a homeowner what to do, is a sign you don't know what's going on yourself...🤣

[@tombregman2875]

Quite possibly the smartest thing that a Biden supporter has ever said! I would NEVER let this "plumber" into my house - this Steve guy is a disaster looking for a place to happen! (Let's Go Brandon!)

[@supporterofeverythingyouli6255]

@@tombregman2875 Were you a Trump guy when it wasn't cool?

[@tombregman2875]

@@supporterofeverythingyouli6255 I like a lot of the policies that Trump implemented. I believe that the current administration is a disaster. I am not a believer in "woke" culture. A "Trump guy"? No, I would not say that I am a Trump guy. I have been a registered Libertarian for more than 30 years. I appreciate a good idea, a good policy, without regard for the political affiliation of the idea's source. FYI, I voted for Obama the first time he ran. As you can imagine, I was hugely disappointed. :~)

[@rabbitbreed1]

Honestly what did you expect in New Bedford. I'm surprised it didn't just flow into a 5gal with a hose.

[@ggme4682]

Hahaha being from MA this made me laugh

[@bassthunder819]

...hilarious..."this is terrible'....lmao

[@garylawrence7547]

Classis Steve…”good enough for this neighborhood “!

[@livingaboard]

That didn't look like it was draining very well bubbling up at the end there

[@fitzdawg821]

I wouldn’t risk my license... either she lets you open the walls bit and that ceiling, or I’d walk away.

[@tinydancer7426]

Right.

[@jaautre7482]

Is the primer clear as well?? I’m so used to the purple

[@donnierobertson3088]

Nice job and video like always ( Steven )

[@rustyshakleford5230]

The venting on that kitchen drain is just as good as the supply lines coming off the meter. Only quality in this condo.

[@drem5315]

The dog won't attack you , much, next level mama.

[@brianrobertson1211]

That was some mighty fine DYI plumbing. Why, they don't have plumbing like that in McMaynerberry. I tell you what.

[@johnpasterczyk6034]

Put a little more CHOOCH on it momma---the baby dog is a workin' ya'll---2/15/2023

[@davidlyons7238]

At 2: 08 the door in the basement is hung upside down. Some people just need to use the phone and a check book. :

[@ggme4682]

Wow good job, I'm very impressed you caught that!

[@carlmasi1063]

Real good job i love your video

[@petero2693]

Neighbor wanted a hand rail for aging mom... told her no studs must hold 200 pounds or so to be code.. I refused to do it...she said just do it.. customers are there own worst enemy..she also used a gutter downspout for her dryer vent???? Not me some other contractor did it????

[@WeatherNut27]

That ain't no Taj Mahal for sure. What a shit show.

[@hothmobile100]

Wow, that PEX pipe going to the flloor with a meter where you walk and could kick it or break it... Geez... Who the hell designed this place?

[@ggme4682]

Haha yeah it's just flappin' in the breeze

[@justtruth8310]

Hallarioius Steve!! Im Bill self employed Plumber up n Brockton probably same age been in business for 32 years now. We think the same you and I. Some of your videos are really funny. Im with you on the free estimates, forget about it, no free estimates from me. Julian Plumbing Brockton!

[@wayne6438]

Enjoyed the video

[@Rainman75]

Hey guy, you dropped the ball on that one. You know what I mean. bada bing...

[@amirdieselx64]

Definitely no taj mahal there, must be a backorder on pvc glue lol

[@jamilrasheed]

Where did that other straight down line run to?.... Just curious

[@Scott-eo7lj]

Why was the tee in the drain position if it was a vent? I'm thinking that was a drain for another fixture in the home. I know the clean out was facing the wrong way but since it was compression fittings after the clean out it could be taken apart easily to unclog and that's why they faced the clean out in the opposite direction. No need for a clean out on a vent, plus if it were a vent it's traveling horizontally well before the flood level of the structure. It all doesn't make sense. I would have glued it up exactly as it was. You could have off set it before the tee to fit in a ptrap.

[@bones007able]

No glued joints on the plumbing ?... and they bought the house that way? home inspectors are a option in Mass? that blue pex supply line right in the middle of the walkway is up to code?

[@gmzx3]

I'm a Joe homeowner but would never do anything like that. When I get into a more involved project (for me) like a rotted out bathtub drain (above a finished garage ceiling) or a rusted out bathroom trap, I go to the plumbing supply place. They have a better selection and often higher quality parts than the big box store, Most valuable to me is they listen to me and have knowledge and offer proper solutions. Prices are not that much more, if at all and their help is priceless.

[@DabblelyDiddly]

Enjoy it while it lasts. those places that actually help homeowners too are getting very rare. cant find one where i am if your not a contractor they treat you like ABSOLUTE TRASH

[@mrobvious5892]

@@DabblelyDiddly when I installed my own hot water boiler system, the hvac suppliers treated me like an orphaned bastard child trying to be seated at a country club’s 50th anniversary luncheon!🥴

[@DabblelyDiddly]

@@mrobvious5892 Yep. I went to one to buy a toilet like an absolute rube. Got hosed for 179 dollars when I could have went to HD and got the SAME SHIT for 120. sometimes I never learn.

[@RustyShacklefordPocketSand]

Wow!

[@philhart9800]

Clear primer is not up to code in Minnesota, inspector expects to see purple primer on All joints

[@losferwords100]

Hell, a DIY'er could've done a better job. At least they watch a few KZbin videos and do a little research before they attempt something like this. Whoever did this didn't have the slightest clue what he was doing. At least it provides some quality entertainment.

[@FredD63]

I’d have to look into the pipe going into the wall it seemed really loose I was thinking it maybe the vent and not the waste pipe … now water is running uphill

[@jorgeguzman9592]

He screwed himself doing it the correct way

[@jamesoestrike2517]

Hi! You don’t use primer before cement on your PVC fittings?

[@tonystout1545]

What the?! That is the scabbiest pipe fitting job I have ever seen! Was a home inspector even involved before the lady bought that house? If so, its time for legal action.

[@pantherplatform]

Scabies!

[@Qingeaton]

I would have had no way of knowing where either of those pipes went, and couldn't have done anything until I did know.

[@loganjohnson2912]

Good enough for this neighborhood was an apt comment.