NEW 2024 Mathews Lift 33 Bow Review With MFJJ!!!!

[@Nick-im3ym]

I think you do a better job testing these bows than anyone else out there. Don’t listen to all the haters. The majority appreciate your hard work. Thank you

[@jakemaynard1513]

You are the only one I truly trust when it comes to reviews! Love your products, love your honesty and absolutely love your content.

[@davehedge5044]

You were up early MFJJ!!🤣 I'm also noticing a theme - when you are reviewing bows you wear a T-Shirt of another (aka rival) manufacturer. Nice way to show your impartiality. Keep up the great work.

[@wademoulton5109]

Brought my lift 33 home last night. Granite fade to black. Thank you for all your bow reviews

[@huntsimple9527]

I finally found a left handed 33 in stock and was able to shoot it a bit. I decided to pick it up, spend some time with it, and wanted to report out my real world findings. To be honest, I was very skeptical about this bow when I first saw the release of it. When I first inspected one in person, my skepticism grew. You can literally grab the cam and bend it around in all directions (of course with the bow at brace) as the limbs are so skinny they just flex like crazy. I was worried about that from a durability standpoint. I was also worried about the cams being very, very skeletonized. They seem like they would be easy to bend, etc. Those were some initial observations before I got to shoot one. I got to shoot one and my first reaction was 1) the draw cycle is very linear, just stiff 2) there is no valley (even at 85%) 3) the vibe/shock after the shot is more than the Phase 4 and 4) the riser length adds to stability significantly 5) something different in the grip where your thumb fits is improved. I shot it with both C and D draw length mods and landed on taking it home with the C mod. I bought the bow and took it home (we do our own set up and tuning at home)...... Set up was easy. With a center shot rest we had a perfect bullet hole with ZERO top hat changes or any other changes. The Match strings are an improvement over the Zebra, not sure how much of an improvement but they are better. They are thinner and they did settle very quickly and my peep locked in. So I just started shooting it for a few days. The bow has a very clean shot cycle, very clean release. With it all set up, the vibe/shock was mostly gone. I got used to the draw cycle being stiff. I never did like the lack of a valley. My style of shooting my hinge is to relax/elongate the palm of my hand and that style does not work well with a bow with no valley. As I shot it, I realized the C mod was making me feel a bit long. I was not stable at full draw and could feel being a bit overextended. My shop still had the D mods, so I switched to them and now I was too short, feeling scrunched up. When I am scrunched up, I have hand torque. For me, having the draw length perfect is a huge issue, as I finally found out how well I shoot when my draw length is spot on. It matters hugely! So, sadly, I am caught between a D and C on this new Mathews cam and not comfortable at either. Note on the previous Mathews cam the D mod worked well for me). Yes, could I twist strings and/or remove the grip and/or fiddle with D loop length or even my release neck length (different releases) - yes I could do all of that to try and get the Lift 33 to fit my draw length. Since I have other bows I shoot well, I did not want to put that level of effort into the Lift, so I sold it/traded it. As long as Mathews runs this newest cam with the 1/2" draw length limits, I am probably out of luck with Mathews. Conclusion, while I can't speak to the long term durability of the bow/cams, if your draw length fits one of the draw mods and if you are OK with no valley, this bow could be a great choice for you. Thank you.

[@hall0341]

Thanks for typing tgat out. Are you able to compare the vibration to the VXR? I have no frame of reference beyond that

[@huntsimple9527]

@@hall0341 I had a VXR 31.5. I would say the LIFT is more dead than the VXR. V3X, Phase 4, LIFT..........all very dead in reality.

[@dougmeade9412]

Yep, worth the upgrade from the V3x. Thanks for an honest eval. I shot the 33 this morning and the weight loss is very noticeable when you pick it up. Smoother draw cycle than my V3x 33 too.

[@cozycare1655]

Totally. The second I held a 33 at my local shop, it was wayyyy lighter than my V3X 29 lol. And the LIFT 33 had both stabs on them. Drew it back and the 70# mod felt like pulling a 60#. It's a totally new bow, from the riser, cams, and even the string/cable lol.

[@the_atomic_punk487]

@@cozycare1655I’m thinking of making the switch from my v3x 29, shooting the 33 next week

[@WendellAbigania]

@@the_atomic_punk487nice! I’m still waiting for my LIFT 33” to get to my pro shop. Taking a while to get here. I may as well wait for the 2025 Mathews 😂🤣😂

[@scottschmeling7622]

Another great review, great to hear that it comes with quality strings!! Thank you

[@xcmandan]

MFJJ, you have totally started a movement in the companies to show up or shut up with their products. Dare I say you are our voice?! Keep up the great work and shouting from the rooftop for us. Saying want more from the companies and their products for the price.

[@wademoulton5109]

Amazing information. As of now, this will be my next bow. Thank you for another amazing video.

[@GodsMostAutistic]

Just picked up my lift 33 yesterday. I’m in love with it

[@jeffcrooks7305]

18 fps slower than advertised and still gives them a “4” 🤔. Was the Alpha X on 80%? Love the reviews but let’s keep it on unbiased testing.

[@outdooraddictionwv5299]

Yup. Reflex measured 2" on the lift 29 and was brushed off but bashed another brand for it being 2", didn't switch another brands let off to see if it mattered. Enjoy the vids but definitely biased towards mathews

[@brentbandy3566]

Mathews does it again! I’m still shooting a Traverse (best shooting bow I’ve ever put in my hands). Looking forward to checking this out and possibly making a purchase 👀 Love the review!

[@TheRhagley01]

Same here.

[@MikeJones-vb1me]

I'm so glad you're talking about the actual features in these reviews now, instead of just checking factory specs..

[@benjaminbrock3054]

Thank you for helping me buy a bow. Best reviews!

[@Rbunton1987]

Great review! I’m a Mathews fan but the 343 ibo is crazy. Mathews should just be honest. Most consumers would rather see the accurate number upfront instead of buying and being surprised it’s 20 fps slow.

[@2ndAveScents]

Just so you know, the bow is not rated IBO it’s rated ATA which is a completely different spec. Also, it says up to 343 which means maxed out at the 31 1/2 inch draw

[@diegodeluna4364]

Ibo is with 80lb limbs

[@shorthairdude417]

Website says Ibo this year.

[@stevie9361]

An naked string

[@asrcpp223]

I have a question regarding maxing out the cam and the opposite. For example take a bow with a cam that's 28.5 - 32.5. At max you are getting speed but a rougher draw, at minimum are you getting better stability but more of a slug? Is that correct? and when choosing a bow/cam should you look for a happy medium?

[@derekbonser-xk7bz]

It is the best bow on the market right now hands down. The only other bow that even sniffs it is the Hoyt.

[@torreyintahoe]

Great review. Definitely the best bow on the market by a long shot.

[@joshuamonteith6901]

These reviews definitely get me wanting new gear so in that regard, they’re great and super informative. Thanks always for the quick, precise information homies!

[@tylerbream8127]

Love the Hoyt Matthews t shirt mismatches you’ve been doing….but deep down it’s so clear you’re a Matthews guy!

[@rshoff14]

Dude, your reviews are great. No bs

[@dboots1421]

Always thorough and impressive review. Thank you for doing what you do!

[@codymayrer5059]

Thank you for the video MFJJ, always enjoy seeing the new equipment and your reviews! Wish I could trade in my V3X 33 for one.

[@Rikcey]

What I'd really like to see in next year's reviews is Axle to axle length and string angle at full draw. (at 28" since that's about the happy medium for draw lengths out there) But I guess 30" is easier to do and be consistent with. Should be really telling if a bow fits or not.

[@brettwelch8368]

i kept refreshing youtube to see MFJJ's review!

[@Nails__27]

Goddamnit same

[@Chad.Maness]

Same

[@Chad.Maness]

PJ did a good review too

[@Angel.Custodio]

Ditto lol

[@alexleon1468]

Same

[@GunnersGoods]

The best product or person always has the most haters. I got a fully loaded phase 4 33 after trading my carbon one. Best decision yet. I’d be buying the lift if i could find one used!

[@NMBowhntr]

Impressive bow. What a set of features. Just wish their accessories were less expensive…

[@Sapper_Rage]

I love your reviews!!! You would be the real MVP if you could do the same speed tests you're already doing but with the maxed out draw length and 80 lbs draw weight. You're the perfect person to do this as you run the shop.

[@Twistedoff2]

Great video. I watched the 29.5 also and both seem like top contenders. I'm in the market and looking at the Phase 4 and the Lift to see where I can get the best bow for myself. Next step is going into the archery shop and shooting them. Thanks for all the effort and honest content you put into these videos.

[@jasonnull2248]

Great review as always. Thanks MFJJ and crew.

[@joebrittfishingandwildlife]

The Lift 33 is 100% worth the upgrade especially if you are in a v3 or older model bow. I love shooting it at the pro shop. I’m not overly crazy about the 29.5 but I’ve never liked the shorter bows. 33 has always been the sweet spot for me. It’s an awesome bow Mathew’s definitely takes the cake 2024! Great review btw appreciate all your time into doing reviews.

[@Shawnbo812]

Yeah, That score for speed is a little too lenient, you don’t do it for anybody else don’t do it for Matthews. Keep up the good work bud

[@rogerhook8002]

I use to shoot a Matthews bow and did so for many years. One of the things I really enjoyed was a small profile and light weight. Interesting to see a move it that direction.

[@stacyhardin611]

Great customer service by Mathews….. they are replacing mine and my sons bows that have the limb issues!!

[@randyweaver3456]

Another outstanding and comprehensive review! As has been mentioned numerous times, yours are the only reviews that I trust to be honest and objective. I'm not a Mathews fanboy, nor am I a hater. Since the days of the Monster series, they've always felt top-heavy to me and I still believe the Switchback is one of the best bows ever made.

[@ronconte4292]

Best bow reviews on the internet. Kudos!

[@RUMXHAM]

The Mathews shirt during the Hoyt review and now the Hoyt shirt during the Mathews review. I love it so much 🤣

[@royleerobinson5]

I just got back from my local shop and shot it. And I like that cam better than my v3x 33. I shot it the new hoyt and a ss34 all in a row and the draw and back wall are more to my liking on the new lift. But the lift has a pretty good twang in the riser. The ss34 I shot was just a jump with no twang if that makes sense. If I wasn’t into tinkering I would have stuck with Mathews. But bowtech fits my tendencies to tinker.

[@shadowJSP]

You did a hoyt review wearing a mathews shirt now doing a mathews review wearing a hoyt shirt. Love it 😂

[@batt3687]

Was coming here to say this... nothing like wearing a Hoyt shirt during a Mathews review 😂

[@shadowJSP]

@@batt3687 exact ha ha the new alphaX 33 lookkkss fireeee

[@dennisdallege2628]

People don’t even care that it’s 20 slow. Still going to run out and buy it, then pretend it’s really a 343 bow.

[@vfonte218]

Great review! Always look forward to them!

[@dallinwilliams5633]

I love how you put the Hoyt shirt on for this one, and wore the Mathews shirt for the Hoyt review...... no discrimination here hahaha

[@tategerald5188]

I would say the speed loss is in the LCA scale. Most read about 3-4 lbs over. Maybe check it on another scale?

[@neilbolan8768]

Looks like an awesome bow!! Thank you for another great review.

[@marshallhaslett8717]

Fantastic reviews. Change to a 10 scale next year and have a chart printed so it’s easier for us to see.

[@robertwilliamson6958]

This is the bow I’ve been waiting for since the halon with Mathews. I look at many people, and many bows, and it just doesn’t seem like much has changed in a drastic enough manner since the halon (for me-mr budget minded guy), to spend that kind of $ on a new bow that’s only a couple of things different from the last 3-4. Now that bow right there is substantially different enough, and feature ridden enough, I’ve say a halon, I might take a good look at it.

[@grantprice6803]

I really like the black accessories on the solids

[@jons7e]

The most thorough reviews on YT. Looks like Mathews addressed all of the things the keyboard warriors cry about when it comes to their bows. Def an impressive release and when you compare it to the carbon price tags, it's a bargain. Do the engage stand legs still work with this bow?

[@WolfinWolvesClothing713]

Yea, but they didn't. The only things people btch about are the cams, and grip. They changed the cams. That's about all.

[@frank3722]

MFJJ, Thank you for lots of good information. I enjoy your review. The only thing I wish you would do is change your scoring to a quantitative method instead of a qualitative one. As for weight, I do not care what it is made of as long as it hits a certain range. Not sure anyone cares what it is made from when they take a shot. Also, I would rather you review the bow once your stabilizer bars are on it. Doesn’t do much good if the savings in weight just require heavier or longer bars. Vibration scores should be smaller gets a bigger score. If what you say is true, that would be one reason to buy a longer bow. The scores should reflect this or at least allow someone to say hey this is a section the shorter is better and these are reasons the longer is better and decide which criteria to select. Would be cool to see drawforce curves to go along with your comments on smoothness and draw sensations. It helps us to experience what you feel by what we see. Thanks again for the great reviews and I look forware to future ones

[@DoubleMiddleOutdoors]

I will be curious to see the speed once they get the 80% mods.

[@frankthetank9741]

Been waiting for this review 🔥

[@kevinpratt7484]

According to Lancaster Archery’s review, Mathews is doing a IBO rating on their speed which 80#, 400grn arrow and the max draw length of cam. As opposed to the speed test Lancaster did which they said was ATA speed rating which they said is 70#, 350 grn at 30”. That’s why your speed test is off 12-13 feet per second.

[@darrind8697]

At a 30" draw would you take this over the Bowtech Core SR ????? or which between the two ??

[@jsienesi]

How are they to tune in regarding putting in a press? Do you need special attachment for the press because of the limb attachment

[@patmaples5096]

Thank you Josh. For every inch of draw length, is there a consistent reduction in speed? at a 28.5 DL, what speeds could you expect?

[@joncox2682]

Martin Bows used to do the fade colors and I really liked it

[@steverichardson9133]

Great review as always. Might be time to upgrade my Mathews.

[@Rikcey]

Hoyt Nitrum 34 2015! was 4.2, and had an honest 330 FPS, which is about what the 33 does (70# 30" 350gn) Bow technology truly is stagnant.

[@neonomad6078]

I have an Xpedition Denali, under 4 lbs, 345 IBO (claimed).

[@danmoreno425]

Love your reviews I’m coming up there next year 🤙🏽keep up the great videos

[@wademoulton5109]

Finally, I went to the bow shop today. I have it narrowed to the lift 33 and the revolt x 80, both 31" draw at 80 lb. Does anyone have the pros and cons for either? Thank you.

[@josephacker5716]

When you shoot a lot what are you looking for when you see wear? When would you see wear on a bow that wears poorly/fast?

[@sticks7971]

i think people hate on mathews because .... 1. mathews marketing is the best. 2. they are always getting beat by guys shooting mathews.

[@michaelfrye6584]

may you please do a comp with hoyt pse bowtech 30" or less ATA? I am wanting to switch from what I have but would love a good comp. Thank you.

[@justinrodabaugh3746]

Come on now, speed isn’t close… if it was any other brand you’d be deducting major points and wouldn’t bring up the speed to specs ratios… I get it, you don’t want to piss Mathew’s off but I don’t think you’re being completely unbiased… keep up the Best Bow Reviews on the internet! I really appreciate all the time and effort you put into these videos and I do consider your opinions when it comes to bows/ accessories

[@jakeroberts9307]

I think it’s more than it’s getting the speeds it is for its size and specs, more so than it being accurate to what’s advertised. Does it hit the 343 number? No. Is it still very fast for its dimensions? Yes

[@PhotoBob]

Same for the vibration.

[@seniorvendetta96]

​@@jakeroberts9307bowtech core sr is about the same spec with far more faster speed with less vibration

[@joshstevens9528]

@@jakeroberts9307 It's not though lol

[@Silva_2238]

💯

[@joshuaearle673]

Josh, I might argue that the IBO was tested at 80#. We all know that the heavier weight will IBO slightly higher, maybe 3 feet per second? Add 5 grains of weight for the nock point and D-loop lets say 1-2 fps. Then add another 4 fps for an 80% LO module. So, 3+1+4=8 fps you could add when accounting for the discrepancy in speed. I think with the 350 grain arrow you got like 326? Add 8 fps to that and you would be at 334 fps. That is within your 10 point range of leniency. I am excited about this bow for sure. As always, nice review. You do good work man, thank you.

[@gfoster3434]

Don't they determine IBO without fletchings as well?

[@joshuaearle673]

@@gfoster3434 Not sure. Either way, the measurable difference at that distance would probably be less than 1fps.

[@michaelblock4279]

You would think Mathews would leave the metal riser, but they continue to innovate with something. Coming back with the McPherson series "like" Monster cams is interesting on this platform. Good review!

[@mikef3855]

Still using and loving my VXR. No need to upgrade.

[@working_to_hunt]

Can you give us a short draw length speed test? Somewhere between 25-27?

[@andrewfernandez8330]

Thank goodness MFJJ takes in trade ins on their Mathews. Cant wait to pick one up

[@AbBowhunter]

I am still loving shooting my Mathews Vertix. It is so smooth and quiet, and accurate as can be. My only gripe about it is that I wish the draw cycle was a tad less harsh at the start. Otherwise it’s been a joy, definitely the best now I have ever owned. I would like to move back to a slightly longer ATA so this will more than likely be the ticket for me. But I’m probably still keeping the Vertix…

[@deaddryftdad]

You measured ATA, Matthews uses IBO. You should have led with that. Pulled 80 with no minimum DL and a 400 grain arrow

[@podiumarcher3447]

Watch ata vs Ibo video

[@stacyhardin611]

My LIFT33 has turned out to be somewhat disappointing because I ABSOLUTELY LOVE HOW IT SHOOTS…….. I made the comment earlier about my limbs being replaced 4 times and Mathews (SCHEELS The Colony TX) replaced my bow. Only to have the limbs on that bow splinter also. Those limbs were replaced on Monday and today (Wednesday) my limbs splintered again! Nothing out of the ordinary here; 31.5/72/85….. 29.5”/472 grain Sirius Gemini arrows w/ 50 grain podium titanium half out and 125 grain field point.

[@aaronbuehler1270]

Wondering what difference in string angle there is between Phase 4 29" and Lift 29.5. That would be a solid video and you could explain a lot about string angle. I had to adjust my V3X 29 a quarter inch longer than normal to get nose to touch.

[@MilesofBeard]

i notice a hoyt shirt when testing Mathews and a mathews shirt when testing a hoyt. very unbiased of you

[@ronsgarage2057]

Interested to see what it shoots for speed with limb bolts maxed out like it came…

[@gfoster3434]

Worth the upgrade from a VXR 31.5? fyi...I'm a 31" draw length and shoot 70# if that matters.

[@PUcmw11]

You mentioned the draw cycle is better without the cam maxed out. For someone pulling 70lbs, would this bow benefit from the 80lb turned down to 70?

[@Angel.Custodio]

Now that all of the reviews are out, I think this is the fastest 33 ata other then the Core SR. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm curious to see what's the bow from 32-34 ata with the best linear draw and speed compromise

[@drewmalcovsky9068]

What ended up being your go to setup for this year?

[@williamreick2669]

JJ, your my new go to channel after a long work day. Put your review of this on before watching my buddies over at TheHuntingPublic

[@hunterman600cc]

New sub. You're thorough but not dry. I've been trying to justify a new bow for years, but 20fps and less vibration doesn't justify $1k+. Guess I'll just keep doing string/ cable every few years.

[@clayton1379]

How do I know for sure my Riser is Warped on a Diamond Edge sb-1! My arrow rest is all the way to the left, my sight is all the way to the right, and I'm still shooting to the right.

[@DarenHoffer]

Mathews measures IBO which is 80lbs plus or minus 2 lbs at maximum draw length and a 400 grain arrow. Not ATA which is 70 lbs plus or minus 2lbs at 30 inch draw length

[@DarenHoffer]

I forgot 350 grains for AtA

[@Orr_s]

Would you say if im at 29.5” draw length and i shot the 29.5 ata model it would still be much nicer on the draw cycle even just half in off the max setting, instead of maxed at 30 like you stated here?

[@Silva_2238]

RX8 Ultra was 11 fps off and got a 3/5..

[@Doober560]

He’s obviously biased for Mathew’s and Bowtech. Always has been

[@Angel.Custodio]

I would love to know what you thought about the draw cycler difference between the SR and the new Mathews 33. Speeds seem the same.

[@johnjordan9945]

I wonder if the angle of the limbs at draw will make the let off % add more speed than a normal bows mod change. Would like to see the speed test re done with 80% mods to confirm the speed for sure.

[@lucasnett366]

For longer draw lengths, 31 and up, how does this stack up against the Hoyt Highline? Saw your unboxing video but couldn't find the follow up/second one you mentioned. How does it measure up on the vibration, and shooting heavy arrows 650 or so? Thanks

[@christian_U81]

Says 2023 i the heading ;) great review as always

[@matthewkyle6939]

About time lol, been waiting all morning

[@nbond1980s]

Yes Mathews makes a solid product. It can't be denied. I think you are trying to make a fair system of reviews. But it detracts from that when you make excuses for a bow like you did here. You added an imaginary 4 fps to it because of a mod that isn't even available yet. You said the draw length was off but it's ok because it's better than last year's model. I don't think you are a Mathews schill. But you definitely threw them a softball. I just watched the Hoyt review and you weren't as forgiving for things. FYI I'm not a Hoyt fanboy either. I shoot a Bowtech and love it.

[@tylerball2902]

Just ordered my Lift 33 yesterday…never had a bow that was bridgelock compatible. Is it worth mounting the site that way? Or go the normal route with an X frame mounting system.

[@mikeftball44]

Just add sound please. I think it’s a big factor when comparing with the bows speeds. Thanks

[@ferrodog5000]

Come on the Ethos has a longer brace height, had a shorter draw length on the measurement and came in within 10ft of published (faster than this 33 inch bow)and you gave it a 3 on speed. Give the slower MATHEWS a 4, with shorter brace, longer draw, and slower speeds. Looks like total fanboy bias in my opinion. Should have been a 2 or even a 1 on speed.

[@Doober560]

💯 maybe Mathew’s will pay for another hunting trip for him though.

[@bearhug72]

Fade to black, huh? Go back to 2015 and look at the Martin Lithium Pro. Same scheme but fades from light camo to dark (almost black) camo What a novel idea Mathews...lol

[@stevenwashburn3694]

Ok just an idea. Can I buy the lift cams and put them on my phase four to accomplish the same thing?

[@kellenpucher2849]

I am really excited about this bow! I've previously owned a PSE with the EC cams (loved), and a Hoyt RX-7 Ultra (also loved) - but this year Mathews has convinced me to try a new brand. To get a bow with good speeds, great riser geometry and specs, and which is compatible with their engage limb system? Sold!

[@Jbob37]

IBO speed is measured by shooting a bow with an 80-pound draw weight (+/- 2 pounds), maximized draw length, and a 400-grain arrow. Bow was shot with @30" 70# 12 more pounds +1 1/2 draw length would make a considerable difference.

[@richardganz9318]

Are they using the TOP HAT system still to tune the cams ?

[@johnjordan9945]

Yes still the same top hats. He covers that in the 29.5 video.

[@drewmckinnis-mcnall9453]

is 27 inch draw length too short to shoot this bow? i have been told 27 inches is too short to get "efficiency" out of the cams.

[@Goody2525]

I noticed they used IBO instead of ATA for speed….so they probably used 80lbs at 31.5” to get their speed…so comparing it to other brands this is probably 338 ata

[@tehype765]

its the same speed as last year Phase 4 33 check out his speed video from last year.

[@Bowhunterohio]

ATA means axel to axel. That’s what the size is which is 33”. IBO is always the speed of the bow. Nothing has ever changed. It’s this way with all the bows no matter what brand. ATA would never mean the speed of the bow. IBO is always used when talking speed.

[@Bowhunterohio]

By the way when it comes to IBO speeds all bow manufactures use the same type of testing which is 70 lbs draw, I think 30” draw length and a 350 grain arrow. This is what all manufactures use for their speed testing.

[@jonanderson4755]

​@Bowhunterohio wrong. ATA (Archery Trade Association) speeds are measured at 70lbs, 30" with a 350gr arrow. IBO is measured at 30", with an arrow measuring 5gr per lb, up to 82 lbs. ATA is a more realistic measurement.

[@jasonbarnes3188]

@@jonanderson4755 this is correct. Ohio bow hunter has no idea what he is talking about. ATA has there standard for measuring speed. Ibo has there’s. All these arm chair professionals putting in there .2 cents is hilarious.