Richard Dawkins Refutes “Christian Science”

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The Poetry of Reality with Richard Dawkins

The Poetry of Reality with Richard Dawkins

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@scottblack7182
@scottblack7182 Ай бұрын
I admire Dawkins ability to endure such dishonesty and blatant ignorance in order to teach us how NOT to think. This man deserves our respect..and sympathy.
@starfishsystems
@starfishsystems Ай бұрын
​@matthewphilip1977 Do you know that you have a reading comprehension deficit?
@waletoriola2519
@waletoriola2519 Ай бұрын
​@matthewphilip19773
@peterhughes8699
@peterhughes8699 Ай бұрын
The term "Christian Science" is an oxymoron used by people who don't understand what science is
@Reno_Slim
@Reno_Slim Ай бұрын
It's functionally equivalent to saying "not science".
@ThermaL-ty7bw
@ThermaL-ty7bw Ай бұрын
@@Reno_Slim it's ... Omni-science ...
@FollowJesusChristfirst
@FollowJesusChristfirst Ай бұрын
@@ThermaL-ty7bw Evolution...1 million years in the past morphing creatures.....1 million years in the future morphing creatures.......Just need two now and no creatures turning into new creatures anywhere....Ha Ha Ha what a scam...some one has to take Dawkins for a walk to the Zoo.....so when they get down to the last one...Dawkins can tell them don't worry it will evolve into a new creature....Just 1 million years mate....wake up John Safran vs God proved demons real God real a real Atheist puts his money where his mouth is....he's a stone cutter anti-Christ.Like Darwin.
@billgross176
@billgross176 27 күн бұрын
Right beside Military Intelligence, and Postal Worker.
@christopher_ecclestone
@christopher_ecclestone 22 күн бұрын
Or Christianity.
@AFMMD-q8
@AFMMD-q8 Ай бұрын
“I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world.” -Richard Dawkins
@SaerdnaOoOoo
@SaerdnaOoOoo Ай бұрын
On thwe other hand religious people have a major habit of fabricating bullshit.
@starfishsystems
@starfishsystems Ай бұрын
​@matthewphilip1977 It sounds very much like MY primary reason. What's the problem?
@1inchPunchBowl
@1inchPunchBowl Ай бұрын
@matthewphilip1977 Spit it out. What are you suggesting on behalf of somebody else then?
@rodmartin-nl8ns
@rodmartin-nl8ns 29 күн бұрын
Twisted!!!!
@drgeoffangel5422
@drgeoffangel5422 28 күн бұрын
I am not against religion, I am against the charlatans that peddle it for their own devious machinations!
@nellwhiteside3042
@nellwhiteside3042 Ай бұрын
Religion is a wonderful way of keeping common people quiet. - Napoleon
@traditionalist6601
@traditionalist6601 Ай бұрын
Napoleon had a huge conversion to Catholicism in prison. You should read his letter from prison.
@joannasimmonds3706
@joannasimmonds3706 9 күн бұрын
If only they would be quiet
@sliglusamelius8578
@sliglusamelius8578 9 күн бұрын
Napoleon became a faithful Catholic in prison in exile. Read his letter where he discusses his conversion at length..
@sliglusamelius8578
@sliglusamelius8578 9 күн бұрын
@@joannasimmonds3706 If only atheists would be quiet.
@ianb9028
@ianb9028 6 күн бұрын
@@sliglusamelius8578 we will be quiet when religions are honest.
@stuartbarker9373
@stuartbarker9373 Ай бұрын
Sorry, but this is one of Richard's interviews that I can only tolerate for about 10 minutes. I've no idea how he has the self-control to spend so much time with idiots without shouting at them.
@kascally
@kascally Ай бұрын
He aims, I think, to test the full range of cognitive dissonances in the interviewee’s world system. How can someone preserve one set of beliefs, while simultaneously claiming to adhere to a set of principles about education and truth seeking that entirely conflicts with those beliefs.
@scottblack7182
@scottblack7182 Ай бұрын
Get the stupid talking long enough and even their followers will stop listening. That's why. He keeps them going long enough to choke on their own foot but for all to see.
@nem447
@nem447 Ай бұрын
For exposure to promote his book.
@DavidStewart-nn4ow
@DavidStewart-nn4ow Ай бұрын
He knows his argument, it correct, no point arguing with someone that is unequivocally wrong
@DavidStewart-nn4ow
@DavidStewart-nn4ow Ай бұрын
Truth and belief can be so separate but also so true, there is ur own truth then the truth that people actually learn things , religion is lazy it’s putting the hard shit that life throws at us and making up a story to be better it’s quite obvious how stupid it is
@marthas8108
@marthas8108 Ай бұрын
Those poor children, being exposed to propaganda every single day. I had that myself and it took decades to start to fix the damage. Good for RD for stepping up.
@lauralee9694
@lauralee9694 9 күн бұрын
And the parents are paying a pretty penny to ensure it.
@PaulSkuta
@PaulSkuta Ай бұрын
All the aggression thinly disguised as grinning and laughing, diverting his squinted eyes up or down as his mind struggles to contort an answer to a straightforward question while Prof. Dawkins remains open-faced, eyes directed at the object of his inquiry. You can almost see the defensive force field this man emits around himself. These are his only weapons to combat facts and reality. How terrified he would be without their protection. How tiresome small minds can be.
@petersinclair3997
@petersinclair3997 Ай бұрын
Paul, Dawkins most often debates Science vs Christianity. A much deduced debate model. Isn’t the existence or non existence of God the real debate? Here, shouldn’t the locos of ontology and epistemology regarding the existence or non existence of A god or gods sit on a higher philosophical plane than the religions? I am an atheist, yet, I would like to see Dawkins (and other scientists) debate a deity. Pls see my separate post. Thanks.
@traditionalist6601
@traditionalist6601 Ай бұрын
The man admits that the end of Christianity will be a bad thing for the world..
@ALavin-en1kr
@ALavin-en1kr Ай бұрын
“How terrified small minds can be”. A clear case of projection. Atheists can claim science when they can explain Consciousness (the ‘hard problem’ for philosophers); is it fundamental and Mind; is it elemental and does it emerge with quantum events. They know a little about the elements and posit them to be fundamental to reality. We should all be in awe of the elements and forces if they are responsible for consciousness; what will the elements come up with next? Will electricity or some other force give us an A.I. that will make us slaves and rule the world? These are the fears of atheistic philosophers. Meanwhile trans humanism is talked of; human brains embedded with technology. We will see about that, communism was bad enough, we will resist any atheistic ideology that arises to fill a void; it too will bite the dust where it belongs.
@scottblack7182
@scottblack7182 Ай бұрын
​@@petersinclair3997wth did that have to do with anything Paul said? 😑
@scottblack7182
@scottblack7182 Ай бұрын
I agree , his body language screams dishonesty. I always tell ppl to pay extra close attention to the way a person looks while they talk. When you feel cringe it's the red flag of red flags . The more complex you make your arguments the less credibility they have in reality. If you can't explain your points to a young child in a few short sentences they can easily understand then you are either lying or you don't have a clue what you're trying to say.
@rogernichols1124
@rogernichols1124 Ай бұрын
Such calm patience, Richard, in the face of such stubborn stupidity!
@toddcott9510
@toddcott9510 Ай бұрын
I love the way people talk about Jesus, as if they know all about him. You may as well say you know everything about Robbin Hood. It's just a story from a book .
@majajackson777
@majajackson777 Ай бұрын
You're right, it's nuts! Imagine grounding your life on Lord of the Rings or some other fantasy. It's completely irrational and stupid.
@TerryWoodsNZ
@TerryWoodsNZ Ай бұрын
Didn't non-christians write about him too? Tacitus maybe?
@reefhog
@reefhog Ай бұрын
@@TerryWoodsNZNot during his supposed lifetime.
@rodmartin-nl8ns
@rodmartin-nl8ns Ай бұрын
@toddcott9510 Read the bible, and you will know all about him !!! A great man Robin Hood, another great man, stole from the rich and gave to the poor !!! TWO GREATS!!!!!!!!!!
@starfishsystems
@starfishsystems Ай бұрын
​@matthewphilip1977 No, there isn't a consensus at all on the matter. The closest you'll get is an acknowledgement that there could have been one or more people who actually existed which inspired the biblical stories.
@Masstoenergy
@Masstoenergy Ай бұрын
I think Richard is the most pleasant person on the planet right now.
@MrPeterschmit
@MrPeterschmit Ай бұрын
I couldn't agree more. And to think: He's an African ape. How wonderfully awesome is that,?
@mikenelson48
@mikenelson48 Ай бұрын
He had much more patience with this gentleman than I would have.
@Masstoenergy
@Masstoenergy Ай бұрын
@@mikenelson48 I have had similar conversations with people who believe in a god. I lost my temper a few times, it's hard not to, but I always got to the point where the other side got left with no arguments. I wish I had Richard's wisdom.
@daleneparole1502
@daleneparole1502 Ай бұрын
​@@mikenelson48, Have you listen to Dawkins and Wendy Wright ?
@rodmartin-nl8ns
@rodmartin-nl8ns Ай бұрын
@Masstoenergy what are you saying? No one on this earth is pleasant, REALLY !!!!
@majajackson777
@majajackson777 Ай бұрын
I admire his enormous patience. I'm 10 minutes in and I'm already shouting at the screen. -.-
@FlandiddlyandersFRS
@FlandiddlyandersFRS 27 күн бұрын
_"I regard religion as a disease born of fear and a source of untold misery to the human species"_ - Bertrand Russell
@Indie9999
@Indie9999 Ай бұрын
Religion, giving people hope in a world messed up by religion. It's time to move on now isn't it? Can we grow up now? Stop believing in fairy stories? It's so pathetic that religion has the power that it does, pathetic and depressing.
@s1sters118
@s1sters118 Ай бұрын
Richard is always such a polite person....... A shame because sometimes "bollox" is exactly what needs to be said in some of these conversations
@geosmith3436
@geosmith3436 Ай бұрын
It’s sad that these religious people didn’t evolve properly.
@chimaobibarnabas
@chimaobibarnabas Ай бұрын
Bro it's mostly about upbringing, environment. It's hard not to be religious in a 3rd world country, or worse a war torn one. I don't blame them.
@1inchPunchBowl
@1inchPunchBowl Ай бұрын
@matthewphilip1977 Okay how about 'grew up'
@dylanjones268
@dylanjones268 21 күн бұрын
Evolution is not a goal. The religious have evolved precisely to fit their environments.
@shininio
@shininio Ай бұрын
I don’t have the patience Richard has with dimwits. I had to stop
@nobodyreally2144
@nobodyreally2144 Ай бұрын
Same. I made it 12 minutes in.
@daleneparole1502
@daleneparole1502 Ай бұрын
​@@nobodyreally2144, Have yall listen to the interview with Wendy Wright ?
@rodmartin-nl8ns
@rodmartin-nl8ns Ай бұрын
Yer Richard and dimwits go together Richard knows it all!!!! One question: How did we get here ??? If you can't answer that, CHRISTIANITY looks very good !!!!
@daleneparole1502
@daleneparole1502 Ай бұрын
@@rodmartin-nl8ns, you're in Denial. "rod"... You have to be much smarter than what you're making yourself out to be.... break Free of you're Brainwashed thoughts and Think for yourself
@MagicMike-n6u
@MagicMike-n6u Ай бұрын
​@@rodmartin-nl8ns maybe investigate before pontificating a conclusion!
@Brin-zu2fz
@Brin-zu2fz 27 күн бұрын
Not only cannot understand what science is but cant even describe what his version of Christianity is, but has the gall to teach it to kids.
@paulhayes3444
@paulhayes3444 Ай бұрын
Why does it fill me with concern the Christian having a foster daughter, I'd choose Dawkins on moral grounds any day if the week.
@mariabelli6169
@mariabelli6169 29 күн бұрын
Great respect for Dr. Dawkins, self-control is something I admire the most about him. Unbreakable human being. He's more spiritual and moral than a lot of religious and Christians I know Great work!!!
@VitoDRF
@VitoDRF Ай бұрын
The fact that not everyone empathetically cares, including many devout Christians, is a strong suggestion that we dont derive our morals from any god.
@roquefortfiles
@roquefortfiles Ай бұрын
I always say to Christians. What does a man who lived 2000 years ago have to do with your life today? It has absolutely no physical impact on your life. None. Zero.
@iainrae6159
@iainrae6159 Ай бұрын
My granny thinks religious folks are a bit mad.
@FlandiddlyandersFRS
@FlandiddlyandersFRS 27 күн бұрын
I love your granny.
@russianaloha4576
@russianaloha4576 18 күн бұрын
Granny knows best
@verdi12323
@verdi12323 Ай бұрын
I don't know why Richard wastes his valuable time on 'Flatearthers' like that
@cs1983
@cs1983 Ай бұрын
I think he doesn't anymore. This was filmed for a TV program like 20 years ago.
@Durzo1259
@Durzo1259 Ай бұрын
But the purpose is to show the audience arguments that they themselves may use, or have heard from their friends, and show them how those arguments crumble under scrutiny.
@emon2689
@emon2689 Ай бұрын
It's for the audience, not for the flatearther
@Durzo1259
@Durzo1259 Ай бұрын
@@emon2689 That's how I should have put it; much more concise.
@repolarrepolar9833
@repolarrepolar9833 Ай бұрын
Open conversations like this is omportant. One day you might also discuss with a guy like that.
@zeroeffort1572
@zeroeffort1572 Ай бұрын
It's so annoying that, in 2024, people can reach adulthood believing this religious tripe
@horizonsfluidline
@horizonsfluidline Ай бұрын
How did you manage to get through this interview Dr Dawkins?
@jackiedouglas4483
@jackiedouglas4483 Ай бұрын
Loved the long shot. Thank you Richard for your grace and patience.
@candyquahogmarshmallow8257
@candyquahogmarshmallow8257 Ай бұрын
That was a great interview. Great back and forth on some issues but there was always an underlying feeling of passive-aggressiveness from the 'holy' man.
@orlandovanzego2875
@orlandovanzego2875 21 күн бұрын
Wow, this guy is nuts, and he is teaching kids.
@stephenkeaney5248
@stephenkeaney5248 Ай бұрын
That guy has some dark secrets Scary, truly scary.
@scatton61
@scatton61 Ай бұрын
Constant interruption is not only rude but a sign of being defensive. IMHO if you believe that Noah's Ark actually happened you show your true colours.
@karenseale9372
@karenseale9372 Ай бұрын
I loved seeing you in Austin. Thank you so much.
@marcsteenbergen3254
@marcsteenbergen3254 Ай бұрын
Cool i will be in Cambridge and Amsterdam.
@reefhog
@reefhog Ай бұрын
I’ve never been to Austin, you’re thinking of someone else.
@deanervik
@deanervik 29 күн бұрын
Equating morality to religion always makes me laugh. Those poor unfortunate children
@nem447
@nem447 Ай бұрын
'Faith' is merely fear dressed up as virtue.
@1inchPunchBowl
@1inchPunchBowl Ай бұрын
It's the best weapon in the snake oil salesman's arsenal.
@PatrickSmith
@PatrickSmith Ай бұрын
Richard does this to show how religious people think.
@fxfinder1944
@fxfinder1944 Ай бұрын
Or don't...
@morbidmanmusic
@morbidmanmusic 20 күн бұрын
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@horizonsfluidline
@horizonsfluidline Ай бұрын
Frightening truly astonishing,especially what this guest said about morality! Made my blood run cold !
@VaughanMcCue
@VaughanMcCue Ай бұрын
The guest continued the discussion in a civil manner and that has to be a mighty plus for this session.
@jackthebassman1
@jackthebassman1 Ай бұрын
@VaughanMcCue while he adopted an air of imagined superiority? Oh no!
@VaughanMcCue
@VaughanMcCue Ай бұрын
@@jackthebassman1 It is a façade because he does not appear dim-wit, and his organisation's policy might demand the pretence.
@jackthebassman1
@jackthebassman1 Ай бұрын
@@VaughanMcCue it's clearly how he presents himself, somehow considers himself to be superior and mocking of professor Dawkins.
@annina134
@annina134 Ай бұрын
I can't understand how really religious minds work. They are so brainwashed and close minded.
@gsmith2093
@gsmith2093 Ай бұрын
I appreciate how mr. Dawkins is very willing to engage with people who think differently. He genuinely seems curious about their thought process. He is very well read and knowledgeable about religion and science especially. He is also a great interviewer.
@miv_cleric
@miv_cleric Ай бұрын
The guy spent the entire interview smiling. He was smiling at sentences that were not comical. So it must be the case that it was a self-soothing mechanism to cope with stress and fear.
@morbidmanmusic
@morbidmanmusic 20 күн бұрын
It is just his face.
@miv_cleric
@miv_cleric 18 күн бұрын
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@peterhay7697
@peterhay7697 20 күн бұрын
What a twerp. How could Dawkins be so patient?
@davidwing288
@davidwing288 Ай бұрын
When I listen to guys like whoever this guy Dawkins is interviewing, I am left wondering how a human capable of learning to read and write can be so unbelievably obtuse.
@Dagestanidude
@Dagestanidude Ай бұрын
Maybe you wouldn't be wondering if you were a bit less selfish and selfcentered
@akiblue
@akiblue Ай бұрын
It makes me so angry when I hear the argument for morality being something like : "if there is no god to stop me from raping a child, why wouldn't I? if I could get away with it without being punished" These people don't hear how immoral that statement is and it scares me that they exist.
@T4275585
@T4275585 Ай бұрын
Never argue with fools. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain
@normalperson3997
@normalperson3997 29 күн бұрын
I am an atheist, 74 years old, and, as far as I can remember, I have never raped anyone. I have no idea what has held me back. 😂
@PippaPeerless
@PippaPeerless Ай бұрын
Thank you very much for your contributions to science Mr. Dawkins. You helped me get on the right path some years ago, and I've never looked back! 🍰
@OptimisticHominid
@OptimisticHominid Ай бұрын
I wouldn't want any of my children going to a school that is teaching such drivel.
@ralphsimpson5230
@ralphsimpson5230 Ай бұрын
I was at two boarding schools from the age of 8 years. I was an Atheist then and thank goodness I still am.
@Contessa6363
@Contessa6363 Ай бұрын
I have never been able to wrap my mind around people that can't handle fact based research and evidence.
@juaneduardoherrera8027
@juaneduardoherrera8027 Ай бұрын
His smile gives me the creeps.
@rickb.4168
@rickb.4168 Ай бұрын
This first guy is in charge of a school.........unbelievable
@JesusGarcia-bu7tf
@JesusGarcia-bu7tf Ай бұрын
I think Richard Dawkins ability to endure this torturous conversation was in the service of allowing many others to see just how delusional religion makes people.
@FlandiddlyandersFRS
@FlandiddlyandersFRS 27 күн бұрын
Love your name. It could become famous.
@JesusGarcia-bu7tf
@JesusGarcia-bu7tf 27 күн бұрын
@@FlandiddlyandersFRS thanks. I might just start a new religion. Seems like there’s still an audience for it. lol
@fredfish4316
@fredfish4316 29 күн бұрын
Excellent video again. Poor soul. His "christian" indoctrination has been profoundly effective. He nearly gets it, but he lacks courage and he is scared. He doesn't want to escape because he can't face up to the damage he has done to children.
@Chris-dk3ep
@Chris-dk3ep Ай бұрын
I hope to *** that this man will never ever educate my children. The level of ignorance is stunning and I need to congratulate RD for staying so graceful in the face of ignorance.
@steelcowboy2751
@steelcowboy2751 Ай бұрын
This guy is nuts. Deep down, he’s clearly a victim of the manmade teachings of religion: he believes humans are all naturally flawed, evil, sinners, however you want to define it; hence he desires to believe his personal flaws can be forgiven by some other power. It’s this self-loathing that religion fosters which is the opposite of how humans should want to live. On one hand, this guy acknowledges that the majority of people are religious but then admits that all people are flawed and do bad things. However, in his world view, all people can do as many bad things as they want but they can be forgiven if they then accept god; this ideology only perpetuates bad actors because it allows people to act immorally their whole life then repent. This means bad actors will be greater in number then if everyone lived by a moral code from the beginning and acknowledging that your can’t be relieved of your bad actions.
@Dagestanidude
@Dagestanidude Ай бұрын
No, you dont get it
@steelcowboy2751
@steelcowboy2751 Ай бұрын
@@Dagestanidude what don’t I get?
@carguy99
@carguy99 Ай бұрын
I look forward to seeing him in Vancouver. It will be a great evening I'm sure...
@ApprendreSansNecessite
@ApprendreSansNecessite Ай бұрын
I've got a lot of respect for Richard Dawkins who managed to stay intelligent throughout his career, because every time I think about religion I feel in a very tangible way that my IQ is regressing. The quality of the argumentation is so low that if I spend too much time swimming in these waters I end up lowering my standards and it can be tough to get back to thinking about more complex problems.
@tonyduncan9852
@tonyduncan9852 Ай бұрын
It maybe only a temporary lowering, If your mind remains open, and your experience is still increased. Stay open and rational. They are moral principles.
@medievalladybird394
@medievalladybird394 Ай бұрын
"There are such things as established facts and they don't care how you feel about them." (Francis Collins)
@MikkoRantalainen
@MikkoRantalainen Ай бұрын
Whole whole discussion was basically "don't interrupt your opponent while he's doing a mistake". The more Adrian Hawkes gets to say in this discussion, the weaker his arguments appear.
@PaulGilbert-o5o
@PaulGilbert-o5o 26 күн бұрын
When he said "like Galileo for example" and the religious guy didn't get the joke.. I nearly pissed myself!
@wayneharrison
@wayneharrison Ай бұрын
I don't think GOD is afraid of my questions? So talking to your self, is the pathway to GOD? Religion, One Oh One: Self delusion, is a necessary requirement. 🤦‍♂
@Durzo1259
@Durzo1259 Ай бұрын
You've just made the circular argument that it's absurd to say talking to God leads to God because God doesn't exist, therefor you're only talking to yourself, so how could that lead to God? This is a logical fallacy called "Begging the Question": when an argument's premises assume the truth of the conclusion.
@wayneharrison
@wayneharrison Ай бұрын
@Durzo1259 You missed the premise of my comment? Talking to an imaginary friend/God is akin to talking to oneself. Meaning, there is no evidence of a God. That's why it's called "faith," believing in something in the absence of evidence. Show me some tangible evidence, please.... apart from a book that says so. 🙄
@preferredpronoun3689
@preferredpronoun3689 Ай бұрын
@@wayneharrison Why is talking to yourself through an imaginary intermediate equated to no evidence of god? That sounds like all the personal evidence you need of your god.
@wayneharrison
@wayneharrison Ай бұрын
@@preferredpronoun3689 More like the end result of a childhood indoctrination, in being taught to believe in a specific type of personal God, while rejecting other different faith based God/Gods. This, in itself, does not mean that one's "chosen" personal God existence at all. I would think? 🤔
@preferredpronoun3689
@preferredpronoun3689 Ай бұрын
@@wayneharrison Doesn't have to be indoctrination as much as education of your parents religion/mythology although which tends to be exclusionary.
@RCHeli1
@RCHeli1 Ай бұрын
The word ' enjoy' is doing some heavy lifting here, but yes, good job at trying to reach this unchangeable fellow.
@davidpayne8413
@davidpayne8413 Ай бұрын
@ 22:59 - Hitchens would say "Religion poisons everything"
@rexpayne7836
@rexpayne7836 Ай бұрын
He would turn this guy back to sucking his thumb. 🇦🇺😊 Great name.
@jasonantigua6825
@jasonantigua6825 Ай бұрын
Cricket?
@jasonantigua6825
@jasonantigua6825 Ай бұрын
Cricket?
@JHBrandt
@JHBrandt Ай бұрын
Your work has certainly changed my life, my friend. Thank you!
@tomgardner7496
@tomgardner7496 Ай бұрын
Dawkins is a better man then I, how can he stand there a suffer such a fool as Hawkes?
@arifsaleem5467
@arifsaleem5467 26 күн бұрын
How many brave listeners endured the whole 40.16 agonizing minutes? Richard without doubt is one of the most patient person in the world.
@rosch99
@rosch99 Ай бұрын
Dawkins is a deep thinker so I wonder how he was able keep up a conversation with one of the dullest and drab minds for a whole 40 minutes.
@cjktoo
@cjktoo 25 күн бұрын
I had a 1969 Model 99 and Saab apparently liked the free wheeling so much they carried it over to that vehicle.
@RobertDavidStevenson-l6f
@RobertDavidStevenson-l6f Ай бұрын
It terrifies me that the guest is an educator.
@Durzo1259
@Durzo1259 Ай бұрын
The #1 argument I always here is "you can't objectively prove moral standards, so without God, there is no objective basis for a moral framework." Well if that's true, then God's law isn't objective either, it's authoritative. If you're acknowledging that morality *cannot* be objective, then God can't have objective reasons for it either, which makes his moral code an arbitrary whim enforced through power. If God does have objective reasons for his moral code, then you're acknowledging that there is a logical basis for morality, so what exactly puts such logic out of human reach?
@mazklassa9338
@mazklassa9338 Ай бұрын
Maybe it's out of human reach because of the inherent complexity of the moral landscape and our capacity to understand it fully??
@IFYOUWANTITGOGETIT
@IFYOUWANTITGOGETIT Ай бұрын
Religion is emotional cope. Morals arise from consequences. The consequences aren’t always immediately realized, which is why religion was invented. The problem is that religion was invented by people thousands of years ago with a primitive understanding of the world and long term consequences. All religions contain truthiness to varying degrees but they are fundamentally flawed at their foundations because they aren’t adaptable to new knowledge of nature and long term consequences. The most adaptable religion will survive the longest. Christianity has made a good effort to adapt with its multitudes of denominations but it’s starting to die out.
@jordandthornburg
@jordandthornburg Ай бұрын
Morals don’t arise from consequences. That is self evidently false. Atheism seems more likely to be cope. We don’t like someone having authority over us so we just pretend he doesn’t exist. I could make the exact argument about you.
@Papagajidomitas
@Papagajidomitas Ай бұрын
@@jordandthornburgThe more social (bigger the group) a creature is, the more social and more moral AKA favor the team - instead of the self, if the behaver is accountable. It is an adaptation and true for all kinds of creatures. Also the amygdala (fear detection part of the brain) is smaller compare to other species. I used the word creature, because Darwin wrote, there are really no such thing as species, there are versions of creatures at the moment. It’s genetically true, however I know we can categorize them about for example (at the moment) who can breed with whom.
@jordandthornburg
@jordandthornburg Ай бұрын
@@Papagajidomitas you have some typos and it’s hard to understand your comment fully.
@Papagajidomitas
@Papagajidomitas Ай бұрын
@@jordandthornburg thanks! Edited, I’m still learning the language
@jordandthornburg
@jordandthornburg Ай бұрын
@@Papagajidomitas ok thanks. What exactly are you arguing? (What language is yours also?)
@JacquesieKwaakie
@JacquesieKwaakie Ай бұрын
Richard Dawkins can teach us all a little something about patience!
@davidpayne8413
@davidpayne8413 Ай бұрын
@ 30:34 - Show me that English exercise, because I don't believe you! show me!
@petersinclair3997
@petersinclair3997 Ай бұрын
Did sound suspect.
@glenncurry3041
@glenncurry3041 Ай бұрын
"The world is mainly religious based" "The world is a frightening place" and he lacks the mental plasticity to make the obvious correlation.
@undercoveragent9889
@undercoveragent9889 Ай бұрын
Yes, the lack of self-awareness in this disgusting creature is quite stunning. I made a similar observation myself when he spoke of how the word of God is written on every heart. It kinda explains the r4pe and child-abuse, doesn't it? lol
@OptimisticHominid
@OptimisticHominid Ай бұрын
If I walked around talking to "Dave", someone I believe lives all around us, but no one can see him, and I tell people we must live by a document that I say Dave wrote, and that I felt compelled to force Dave's words into the minds of other peoples' children, people would think I was suffering from a mental illness. I would be put on medical leave, given medications, be required to attend therapy sessions, and likely lose my job; and rightly so.
@Dave-lp7eu
@Dave-lp7eu Ай бұрын
Spread the word
@bazpearce9993
@bazpearce9993 Ай бұрын
Dave's not here man.
@simotazoa
@simotazoa Ай бұрын
Dave!! 😂😂👍
@TheMan-WithNoName
@TheMan-WithNoName Ай бұрын
It's the biggest and best long con ever pulled off and it's still going today. Conceived in a time when the world was a MUCH smaller place regarding things such as population and known lands. People also had a lack of understanding of the natural world all around them. Bear in mind people living in those times thought the sky could fall on their head. All in all a much easier audience to convince of a magical all seeing being. I do find myself perplexed at the people of today with unlimited knowledge about ANYTHING you wish to know at your fingertips still buying into it. I know familial and societal influence at a young age come into play but still I find myself thinking "why?". Maybe I'm missing something?
@noname-ll2vk
@noname-ll2vk Ай бұрын
It's so pervasive across the followers of the 3 mideastern cults that I have to assume it's a genetic weakness that roughly followed the spread of agriculture. Which was introduced with agriculture as humans were able to start detaching themselves from active evolutionary processes and instead adapted to a high carbohydrate diet tending towards monocultures. If you roughly take their word for it, when they say humans are corrupt this may be actually true. But not all, just that branch. This also suggests Freud's notion of a death instinct, which makes no biological sense for a healthy species, might actually be pointing to this core corruption. It's quite striking that this is not nearly as prevalent in Asia, where nothing like book based monotheistic cults exist.
@deusdedit9-
@deusdedit9- Ай бұрын
I'm afraid of the world because bad things have happened to me. This man is afraid of the world because he knows his own depravity. He needs to believe in God due to his flawed thinking in that everybody is just like him, and a God is needed to maintain order, and keep him safe from others he wrongly believes are just as depraved as he is.
@deusdedit9-
@deusdedit9- Ай бұрын
Projecting your own depravity onto the collective is not a good reason to believe in God, and if anything only highlights a necessity out of the weakness of the self to think outside of (arguably) primitive formatting. We have big brains and have the choice in which to use them. That not everyone does is not a good reason not to. But back to the main point; mental weakness isn't proof for God.
@anthonybaxter2930
@anthonybaxter2930 Ай бұрын
Thinking is a skill that very few of us have mastered.
@speedingatheist
@speedingatheist Ай бұрын
He thinks that the story about Noah's Arc might be history. That's all I need to know about his 'science'.
@ZenWaveFunction
@ZenWaveFunction Ай бұрын
There’s no way to fused religious myth/lores with science.
@matthartley1346
@matthartley1346 28 күн бұрын
New TV series idea 💡 David Brent (Ricky Gervais) leaves the office and gets a new job as Headteacher of a Christian School
@pifflepockle
@pifflepockle 25 күн бұрын
I’m sold 😂
@uwewirringa6533
@uwewirringa6533 Ай бұрын
All these discussions remind of the pericycle theory which should prove that the earth is im the centre of the universe. In those days the facts were clearly observed but nevertheless the church tinkered one pericycle after the other just to make the theory superficially work instead of admitting no the earth revolves around the sun. Meanwhile the christian morality is set to be the only measure to prevent us to harm each other. Many philosophers have shown that there is an apriori morality in humans (Freud, Kant to name just two).
@murph8411
@murph8411 29 күн бұрын
I can’t believe this Christian tried to use the counter that he thinks you’d find very few atheists in war against the prison population being mainly religious. Does he think going to war is necessarily a good thing?
@PClanner
@PClanner Ай бұрын
Grief - I find his general outlook very frustrating - wanting to confuse the supernatural with the scientifically proven.
@petersinclair3997
@petersinclair3997 Ай бұрын
One religion’s beliefs in the supernatural with those matters, for now, scientifically confirmed.
@mjowsey
@mjowsey Ай бұрын
15:00 The Christian shows that his core is utterly rotten.
@randomuser4933
@randomuser4933 Ай бұрын
What’s up with this guy smiling and laughing at everything?
@WierdDane
@WierdDane 23 күн бұрын
"thank god" we have Richard Dawkins to put reality in our heads, thank you sir!
@eddys.3524
@eddys.3524 Ай бұрын
Well... quite an interesting Idea... Comparing how (crappy) the world is and stating that Religions are in the majority... Isn't that an indication of how crooked Religion is? #Lawyermode
@christopherwall444
@christopherwall444 Ай бұрын
He said 'ignoble'...I've never heard the word included in a sentence...
@AFMMD-q8
@AFMMD-q8 Ай бұрын
“I call christianity the one great curse, the one great intrinsic depravity, the one immortal blemish on the human race.” -Friedrich Nietzsche
@margaretmcdowell7052
@margaretmcdowell7052 Ай бұрын
Agreed,but I would say religion as a whole.
@reefhog
@reefhog Ай бұрын
@@margaretmcdowell7052Depends on the religion. There are humanist religions that are nothing like Christianity and Islam. Religions that don’t worship any gods.
@Dagestanidude
@Dagestanidude Ай бұрын
Quoting the guy who ended up drinking his own urine
@planetfocus911
@planetfocus911 Ай бұрын
Life is part of a cycle with no end and an unstoppable process: "in the end we all break down into our building blocks, into molecules and finally into atoms. Those same atoms form the basis for the creation of something new. Whatever you become, your existence is infinite". I saw this in a Dutch museum. All mystery is easily cleared up with the wonderful tool that science is. No need at all to confuse young minds with religion. When we let go of idealistic thoughts and stop opposing reality, action becomes simple, kind and fearless.
@eddsroom69edds
@eddsroom69edds Ай бұрын
All religious people do good deeds or don't do bad deeds because they either want something in return or fear something, whereas an atheist does these things merely because they want to do something good or not do something bad (good = good for society/ bad = bad for society.....before anyone asks how we know what's good or bad)
@kerrybock766
@kerrybock766 26 күн бұрын
Religious thinking and expression is so painful and convoluted and forced. Parsing and quibbling and mincing and vaguery. Really sketchy and slippery and nebulous and circular and utterly derivative. Stultifying as well. I cannot stand it.
@matthewlavagna6080
@matthewlavagna6080 Ай бұрын
You can't derive science from mythology.
@matthewlavagna6080
@matthewlavagna6080 Ай бұрын
@matthewphilip1977 Haven't you ever heard of science fiction?
@matthewlavagna6080
@matthewlavagna6080 Ай бұрын
@matthewphilip1977 What's your point?
@matthewlavagna6080
@matthewlavagna6080 Ай бұрын
@matthewphilip1977 My point is that you can't get a scientific understanding of the world from religion.
@matthewlavagna6080
@matthewlavagna6080 Ай бұрын
@matthewphilip1977 Because unlike science, religion isn't based upon evidence or reason. It's based upon faith, tradition and authority. None of these things are a pathway to truth or an understanding of reality.
@JasmineBrownOttawa
@JasmineBrownOttawa 4 күн бұрын
I went to a school with the ACE curriculum. Please, run the other way. Here are a few things it taught me: to memorize answers to pass tests. To prioritize rote acceptance over critical thinking. To not ask questions about math (I still don't really understand fractions). To not do a science lab, or an essay, or a group project until I went to a "real" school in grade 12. To not understand science until I took some rudimentary classes in university. To think about school as a system of authority and punishment, rather than a place to foster learning and thinking for oneself. To realize a whole sector of post-secondary study was not possible (pretty much all of STEM) unless took high school over again. I think I lied about my self-directed goals and homework every day for about 7 years.
@zapkvr
@zapkvr Ай бұрын
Also, 15:11 be afraid. Be very afraid
@SR-ry6hs
@SR-ry6hs Ай бұрын
Theists are f'n scary. Their idea of morality is so messed up, so wrong it's hard to even get them somewhat headed back towards reality. Jeez these indoctrinated people. And they are teaching our children.
@bikelawbloke
@bikelawbloke Ай бұрын
I hadn't realised Professor Dawkins had launched a load of merch and I was so hoping to see a t-shirt with my favourite quote from him - "Science is interesting - and if you don't agree, you can fuck off!" Superbly done.
@mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311
@mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311 Ай бұрын
About 6 minutes in, Richard asks him about Noah's Ark - specifically "what's that got to do with a science lesson?" He immediately replies with - and I quote "well, I suppose that depends on your opinion....." I'm a bit surprised Richard didn't immediately pull him up on such a glaring error - that's ok precisely the point of science - it doesn't depend on your opinion - AT ALL. So really that belied he was on the defensive from the outset. I also found the charm offensive offputting -- the constant fake laugh got embarrassing. I don't know how Richard has the patience to deal with this shit tbh.....
@petersinclair3997
@petersinclair3997 Ай бұрын
True. On the other hand, anthropology and sociology better describe the “why” for existence of religions better than texts against the hard sciences. Science doesn’t disprove the existence of God, rather the claims of the religions. I am an atheist, yet feel we see the wrong parties to this other debates. Deism is an interesting construct and, elsewhere, I have quoted Newton on the topic.
@joris-zuphert
@joris-zuphert Ай бұрын
As a “scientist” a christian scientist for that matter the man has a bad form of confirmation bias. At no moment in this debate he allowed to question his own point of view. And that is what is the issue, a point of view is not science. Morale is not sience. Faith is not sience. Gervais set it best by saying that it is very peculiar that your truth as a believer system is dependent on where you are born. ….
@QUIGS102
@QUIGS102 Ай бұрын
Richard, don't waste your time. Talk to you cat. The cat may understand you.
@utahjag
@utahjag Ай бұрын
Apologists can only hold out so long. They will eventually (depending on intelligence) discover empathy is much more true and likely to be the reason for morality than any Bronze age or other book. The problem is that new religions, beliefs and followers are born into religion every day and they have to make their own path through religion to the other side, empathy, before they can accept reality.
@reefhog
@reefhog Ай бұрын
What Bronze Age book have you ever seen ? The bible was written many centuries after the beginning of the Iron Age.
@davidpayne8413
@davidpayne8413 Ай бұрын
I find it very hard to believe his anecdotal story at 20:27.
@kingdiabertus
@kingdiabertus Ай бұрын
Oh there's a couple questions that could be clipped awfully 🤣
@yaakovbressler-k3e
@yaakovbressler-k3e Ай бұрын
I'm with Richard on many of his points, but why does everyone have to curse this guy out? He seems like a real sweetheart who only means well.
@stanthedonkey
@stanthedonkey Ай бұрын
Does he mean well, or does he just think he means well?
@yaakovbressler-k3e
@yaakovbressler-k3e Ай бұрын
@@stanthedonkey I listen to the guy speak for almost an hour and I can't imagine that he has ulterior motives.
@stanthedonkey
@stanthedonkey Ай бұрын
@@yaakovbressler-k3e I've also listened to the guy speak for a similar amount of time. Here's the thing: in order to have an ulterior motive, you need to understand your position and that of the group you are attempting to apply an ulterior motive to - your ulterior motive, in this case, would be to convert, and you would possibly do this by presenting reasonable arguments, either directly or maybe a bit hidden. This guy has a single perspective and has repeatedly said that everything is connected and you can't separate the church from science as they are the same thing. So, if you are going to adopt this view, which he has, you are hardly going to be in a position to develop any form of ulterior motive as you are not actually trying to drive any agenda. He is not trying to change the views of others as he believes that his perspective is fundamentally correct and that their views are not. He's just not bothered, and his laughy, jokey, jovial manner disguises (a little) the fact that most of his responses were formulated around a strategy of deflection and distraction - and just remember, he doesn't rape people because he thinks god is watching!
@landsgevaer
@landsgevaer Ай бұрын
The guys that flew airplanes into the twin towers in their minds meant well. Meaning well does not suffice, sorry.
@billscannell93
@billscannell93 Ай бұрын
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