Pogačar CLOBBERS Vingegaard on Summit Finish

[@nilsvahlenkamp9107]

What an effort by Nils Politt. He is doing so much work for UAE. Not only on this Stage.

[@christianb.1028]

It's insane. He's basically always on the front. I hope he gets to do something for himself at some point in this tour.

[@CharlesOffdensen]

They should have an award for the hardest-working cyclist. They should name it the Politt award.

[@misterxya8465]

Na its not the first and not the last machine on the flat for a guy in yellow. He is fabulous no doubt.​@CharlesOffdensen

[@PelicanIslandLabs]

The biggest knucklehead is the guy tossing chips into the face of Pogi and Vini.

[@or9481]

Grrrrr.

[@ghtaboma]

Lardass chip thrower should be arrested!

[@swazi5]

Absolute jackass

[@bazadam6635]

Isn't this guy going to be arrested or something?

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Exactly 😱🦋

[@adamkuenzel1878]

Marc Soler is riding smart and for his team. Not too many “Solerisms” lately.

[@TalleyrandsPuppet]

UAE is doing a great job of managing Soler. They give him one simple assignment and he gets it done.

[@roberthotter7008]

He got an important part of rhe team.

[@charlestoddsullivanforpres6628]

They have to start arresting fans that interfere with the riders. No fines, no citations - prison time. It's just ridiculous.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Today was worse than the lady with her sign that took done the whole peloton a few years back I think because at least she didn’t mean to it. She just didn’t realize how fast and how wide the peloton of riders are. That guy today did it on purpose. 👊🦋

[@kristianclemensen9107]

He did get arrested few minutes later. A french police officer was there to witness it. His friend said in a interview that he was drunk, but thats no excuse!

[@stephenmagee3766]

Not "a fan" fans do not behave this way

[@Sy-es4zi]

He was drunk that means he's allowed to do whatever he wants​@@kristianclemensen9107

[@birdofprey108]

He spent night in jail and going to face charges.

[@tonycrabtree3416]

When crossing the finish line, Tadej looked like he ended a good saturday club ride whilst Jonas looked like death warmed over.

[@out_spocken]

Winning makes the pain seem less. Doesn't mean he didn't sink lots of energy. And not suggesting it didn't hurt Jonas too or more. Just that winning can change the demeanor of a rider

[@abikeesclerosada]

I agree 100%

[@shema02]

@@out_spocken go watch “le super planche de belle filles " stage where pogacar won in front of Jonas on the gravel climb in tdf 2022 You can see he was completely cooked unlike today (also on another stage where there was a steep rise in the final climb where he outsprinted Jonas too where he was even more completely cooked)

[@SweetLike]

Victor Campanaerts is the only guy in the peloton who always looks like he’s having fun, even if he’s drilling it. He just loves racing that much

[@erichgerber251]

Him and Jonas Abrahamsen

[@SweetLike]

@@erichgerber251 truth! Although abrahamson feels like a bull in a China shop- just rampaging every mile he can. It’s admirable. I was sad that a lot of my favorites aren’t doing the tour this year, but these two make it exciting.

[@jakefr5150]

All I know is that Victor Campenaerts is the man. That’s all that matters.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

😂🦋👊

[@MrBradfordchild]

But he’s not ‘your’ man!

[@robbchastain3036]

I like that Tadej is attacking and making his rivals answer the bell. And I like that Jonas and Remco are putting up a fight and forcing Tadej to earn his wins and GC lead. Thanks, Chris, for telling us the story of each stage after you've kicked back on the Chesterfield with your snacks and notebook. 😀

[@willavinou1507]

Remco doing better than most expected, and at least trying to sit on Jonas' wheel; the kid's getting smarter too!✊️😂🦋

[@swisstopia]

The two things that I’m most surprised about: Remco’s improvement as a climber, and Jonas’ recovery from injuries. 🦋👊

[@aciesunga5652]

Few stages ago Remco was saying Jonas has no b*lls, now he has no choice but to sit behind his wheels in the mountain stages

[@tonyg3091]

@@aciesunga5652And your point is? Because nobody expected him to be that close.

[@African_Ambition]

I don't understand your point. Remco was always expected to be dropped on the mountain stages and his aim was top 5. It's his first TDF so I'm not sure why you keep focusing on something he said when he was attacking on his terrain@@aciesunga5652

[@GOlone9597]

Remco shrinking his balls rn

[@davids1033]

I hope the chips guy gets arrested.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Exactly. 🤔🦋👍

[@PMP5240-e3i]

I saw one article that they are seeking legal action against him.. what ever that means. over there.

[@todd.goslin6190]

So many experts were so wrong after Wednesday's stage. Now everyone is scrambling back to team Pogačar.

[@erichgerber251]

So much about these experts …

[@gurraglad]

it is almost like they can't read the future

[@Nowayfrrrrrrr]

⁠​⁠@@gurragladIt’s almost like they’re jumping to conclusions too quickly pretending like they know the future.

[@gurraglad]

@@Nowayfrrrrrrr lol imagine if sport commentators aren't allowed to make guesses

[@Nowayfrrrrrrr]

@@gurraglad Sure, they are allowed to make guesses for whoever listens to these self-proclaimed experts. I’m talking about those who jumped to conclusions about a three week grand tour because someone lost a sprint after a mountain stage.

[@willavinou1507]

Finally, strength AND 'smarts' from UAE!🙏 Pogi masterclass, and it's his to lose now; honestly don't see Vingo getting that much stronger for the remainder, nor does he have the team to help him~

[@swisstopia]

Pogi will put at least another minute on Jonas, before the last TT. The battle is for second place. 🦋👊🇨🇭

[@mattpotter8725]

I'm not sure we can say this yet. It was a masterclass today, but how much energy did UAE, Pog included, expend getting 40 more seconds? We'll know more after tomorrow's stage. If Pog gets more time then I think you're right, but I think Vingegaard will go on the attack, if he can, and if Pog can stay with him and jump him on the final climb again then I think he's got it in the bag. It only takes one stage for a rider to crack and lose a lot of time and whilst I don't expect this to happen to Pog we've seen it before and even seen him crack even whilst ahead in this race so we just don't know. I wouldn't count your chickens!!! There's a lot of racing still to go before Nice.

[@leyu138]

@@mattpotter8725just look at that face of Vinngo at the finish line. I think he is tired.

[@lionscircle4700]

@@mattpotter8725 I think the times when Johan's has beat out Tadej, the bonk has been an issue. If Tadej just rides Johan's back wheel all the way up the last climb, the tour will look out of Visma Lease a bikes hands. Tomorrow is the day, if Johans doesn't have it tomorrow to pull away, lack of conditioning will catch up last week and we will begin to see Johan fade from 2nd to 3rd place in the TT. Lots of questions for tomorrow, enjoying this year's race. Shame about Primoz. Probably be back for Tour de Espana.

[@JoselitoMayores]

Not happy to beat a man from ICU ..the tour is in the 2nd half still many things or surprises to come..

[@CycoWarriorx]

Pogi launched that attack with a vengeance… he’s been on a mission this entire TdF… 🍻

[@tonyg3091]

He is incredibly competitive guy and he hates losing and he always gets his revenge.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

💪🦋👊

[@Chiller11]

Great analysis again. This has been an exciting Tour so far. Glad I found this channel to give a knowledgeable analysis of racing tactics and the mysterious workings of the peloton.

[@johnkolacz6231]

Miss Roglic already. His participation would be the only thing that could've made today better. Post crash Vingegaard is amazing. So is Evenepoel. Mr. V always gets his nutrition correct, no bonk. Pogacar got the teammates right today. Will he stay fueled up tomorrow and in the Alps?

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Time will tell. 👊🦋🔥🇫🇷

[@McGregis]

Lets see what happens, sugar overload 4 sure. Visma will not burn UAE today till the final climb. One day before day off...Pogacar can probably go all out, but bonk is a threat on long climbs. It also depends on temperatures today. Too hot and Vingegard could do some time. Cold water and sugar strategy 😅

[@MarkBaldone]

He did in fact not bonk 😹

[@McGregis]

@@MarkBaldone right ? 💪💪

[@dizyaster7700]

Pogi said, that he put special effort in training for long climbs this season.

[@jerrychicken967]

Just heard the chap with the crisps was arrested and he'll be charged. Not sure what the penalty is for throwing crisps these days??

[@jjashik7]

Nils Politt is Die Deutsche Traktor

[@counselor5286]

German tractor no doubt --super diesel model

[@tonyg3091]

Nils Politt is the mountain version of Tim Declerq. He goes at the front of the peloton, the peloton goes F*CK! 😂😂

[@FoxyFox9186]

Der!

[@DavidStacey-tx7on]

How is this channel on got 86k subs???? Best race breakdown period

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

👊🦋

[@alaefarmestatesllc]

Needs some video clips. Not just pictures

[@DavidStacey-tx7on]

@@alaefarmestatesllc copyright

[@Mike01129]

@@alaefarmestatesllc Could be a copyright thing that is not worth paying the rights to.

[@alaefarmestatesllc]

@@Mike01129 rights aren’t that expensive. Every other channel does video clips. He makes enough off of this channel to easily afford the rights

[@nt78stonewobble]

In 1997 my family and I followed the tour around in a camper van. Regarding sports and France, it was an amazing experience. Regarding spending 3 weeks in a small space with people you don't necessarily mix with (slightly extended family), it was a... challenge. :D There was actually a picture in the local news papers of my mothers hand trying to hand water to Riis the day he cracked on alpe d'huez. Our experience with fans are that, by far, most people behave quite well. Not unlike concerts... most people behave well, but there's always a few knuckle heads. Now we had our great local French wine, in the evenings, after the stage, but we did notice eg. some fresh young boys from our own country, who had just jumped in any old car and driven there (we doubted they had more than 1 or 2 sets of clothes with), who started on the alcohol quite early. As far as we could see, even they mostly behaved, yelled louder than most, but behaved. On the other hand, we also saw eg. a French lady steal the free kids toys from the advertisement caravan out of the hands of Spanish fan... much to his consternation. And I will never understand why people keep stepping closer to the riders on mountain stages. If everybody stayed at the side of the road, everybody would be able to see. Human group nature I guess... but that's probably just a reflex by most people. But throwing things at people is just inexcusable.

[@adamcurpier]

Good stuff Chris, will be interesting tomorrow! Looking forward what Visma can do ... just seems UAE is too strong. Pogi, so strong!

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

👊🦋🔥

[@qingyuhu]

What a awesome stage! One of the best TDF ever!

[@methylmike]

Did i just hear, " *my man* victor campenaerts"??

[@methylmike]

😂

[@camozot]

It's been a thing for a while haha

[@travisla1217]

New around here? It’s become a classic Hornerism 😂

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Just once or twice 😂🦋👊

[@swisstopia]

Merci, team Horner! 👊🇨🇭🦋

[@stolirosa]

AWESOME analysis!! This stage was 🔥🔥🔥

[@VKMore-o5c]

Kudos Chris, the shoulder's the way you fight to maintain a position or keep from being pushed into the barriers. Amateur as I am, but I was taught and used this technique many times on the track and on the lead-up to a sprint... esp when someone wants to move you out of someone's wheel...

[@jjashik7]

Correction : the two monster climbs were HC (hors catégorie, or above classification), not cat 1 as you stated. I suspect you were thinking correctly (as in top category), but given that there are cat 1 climbs, I think it was worth pointing out. Thanks for the analysis Chris.

[@fatman1198]

Do you step out of the shower to take a piss?

[@RainCityRoadie]

Great content my man Chris!

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

👊🦋😂

[@cebuanongXtaiwan]

Lesson to all of the GC teams, you should care for anyone.. When Adam Yates attacked, Visma and Soudal doesn't care. Few minutes later, Tadej attacked and bridges to Yates for recovery. We've already seen that glimpse before. Like for example 2022 Giro when Hindley attacks Carapaz for a few hundred meters and bridges to Kamna who was part of the breakaway and waited in the right moment. When Hindley finally on his teammates wheel, Kamna hammered it down and Carapaz cracked.

[@bihlygoat]

“My only motivation for not screwing up is I have to hear about it from five different people.” (Office Space, or could be Abrahamson today 😊)

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Hehehe. And Jonas thought it was over after Alberto Bettiol yelled at him. Only to hear he made it on T🦋E also. 😱😂🦋👊

[@yelapa999]

I thought the exact opposite about the Canpios kerfuffle. Your expanded take on the incident is case in point as to why I watch. Thanks.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

👊🦋

[@01FozzyS]

Pogi and his team with some good tactics today! Chip guy,get lost! lol

At 11:45 Soler(ism) is the one who taps Politt, not Sivakov, although Pavel takes it later from Marc

[@h20s8804]

I wonder if Campenaerts knows that he is Chris Horner's man?

[@lorendieu9806]

Marc soler was looking very good today! Glad to see it. Good call.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Yes 🦋👊

[@tonyg3091]

@@lorendieu9806 The Solerism is strong with that one! 😂 He is turning into a world-class team player. Wonder if they will award him with sending him to the Vuelta with Adam Yates and Almeida-to chase some glory for themselves.

[@lorendieu9806]

@@tonyg3091 He is definatly going. Well if not sick or such. He has been on fine form and perhaps they are all inspired by the chance to win it all. Hopfully he will have some chances at a state in the Vuelta, and with the others for the win as well. Good times for my Catalan friend.

[@tonyg3091]

@@lorendieu9806 Yeah, I hope he will shine at the Vuelta. One of my favorite riders-batshit crazy at times, love him

[@PMP5240-e3i]

More chaos tomorrow with the uphill start and a Hellacious Stage and Bastille Day

[@claytonmuller21]

I assume it will be very hard to beat a smart and on form Pogi without the likes of Sepp and climbing WVA. Let’s see if Jonas can bring some time back tomorrow, otherwise it will be hard to get the 2 minutes back, because Pogi is on fire

[@cristianhadar3265]

Yeah, and I assume it's hard to beat Jonas without an all star team around Pogi. That goes the other way around, doesn't it?

[@simoncbr900rr]

Jumbo had 2 leaders the last 2 years that could win so Pogi was having to cover 2 potential attackers that could win. That would kill anyone

[@cristianhadar3265]

That was only true for 22 when Roglic was there. Sepp Kuss never had any GC ambitious, same like Yates and Almeida, they are up in contention but really only super domestiques.

[@Nowayfrrrrrrr]

@@simoncbr900rrWhich rider besides Jonas was able to win the Tour last year?

[@claytonmuller21]

@@cristianhadar3265 yes I was being specific about this tour, in which Pogacar has a strong team and Jonas doesn’t.

[@phacharawut]

Go Pogi. Go Remco.

[@desertgamers6065]

That was a fun Episode Chris, I enjoyed that one. Your coming into your form. Thanks

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

👊🦋

[@hazarddavid6987]

As usual, good analysis boss....you made my day... Keep up the good work...❤❤from KL Msia

[@lightw1thoutheat]

Not sure how accurate they are, but the folks that estimate power numbers show this as Tadej’s best climb ever and also very good numbers for Jonas (which matches Jonas saying he was very happy with his numbers). If that’s accurate, I think this means that with the stronger team and finally seeming to be a bit more smart tactically, unless he bonks, Tadej will extend his lead into Nice. Tomorrow will be a huge day given that it’s going to be a longer climb and hotter-which have typically been more suited Jonas. Can’t wait!

[@jackspeed650]

It leaked from Visma that Jonas has even bigger numbers this year than last year,

[@DusanCeferin]

​@@jackspeed650 Chances are this is all smoke and mirrors just like the yesterday's stage VLAB radio message about how the pace set by UAE suits Jonas just fine. It seems in both cases that these bits of information are totally unnecessary, redundant and forced. Namely, had the the Jonas numbers really been that great, every/any smart tactitian would have kept them secret and confidently and patiently wait for the race to play out. By the same token, had the pace set by UAE really suited Jonas, you can be pretty sure they would have not announced it on the radio and that they would have just prayed that UAE keeps doing their thing. There are other bits of psychological warfare waged by VLAB sprinkled all over the information space (like Jonas' moderately upbeat post stage statements, lack of reliable information about Jonas' real health condition regarding the april crash and that totally ridiiculous tactics van idea), just to confuse evrybody and stop focusing on what really matters. All these bits make one think VLAB are forced to resort to these kinds of means because they lack what it takes to achieve their objective.

[@hernanhernandez3861]

Matteo is like another racer this year. Never would have thought he would be pacing JV in the final kilometers in a mountain stage in the TdF.

[@srikrishnamurthy]

That was a tactical attack. It is Pogacar's Tour to lose-easier to defend than gain time

[@flexkikr]

Sometimes you gotta race like a knucklehead to win a stage/tour just like Tadej been wasting energy from the last 2-3 stages 😂😅

[@srikrishnamurthy]

@@flexkikr That's true-a classic way to bonk later on. He did mention in one of his interviews that hopefully he doesn't bonk. Pogi is folllowing his Vingegaard blueprint from last year who went all in the first few stages to gain time

[@joerenner8334]

​@@srikrishnamurthyExcept this year Pog has a stronger team than Jonas.

[@srikrishnamurthy]

@@joerenner8334 That's true. Absence of Kuss and Kruijswijk is hurting Visma the most

[@bozidarsicel3884]

What hurts Anchovy the most is Tadej's strength and joy of riding for fun.

[@Mgoblagulkablong]

The weather is on Pogs side, all his bad days I remember were in heat and contrary to what the media tell you it's NOT hot currently, only 20°C on yesterdays stage (probably even less on the summit).

[@wesleydeng71]

After stage 11, I read someone here that said Tadej would never try to attack again. 🤣

[@gnosis6452]

When Adam attacked, Visma Radio said "We dont care about Adam" but Jorgenson in front pulling Pog..🤦

[@hoogabooga9736]

yes.....why? Everyone knew Pogacar was going to attack and I'm thinking Jorgenson's job is to bridge Vino to him when he does.....

[@gnosis6452]

@@hoogabooga9736 he cant bridge because he was in the front already eating wind.. when pog attacked, Jorgenson did not help jonas bridge to pog. 🤦

[@samlin8089]

i agree. why did visma have to put jorgensen in the front at that time?

[@Phlakaton88]

Visma and Jonas should have gone with Yates. They didn’t have the legs. So Tadej sensed it and jumped on it. My theory.

[@AlexAtterbury]

I came here just to ask this, or find an answer - why does Visma need Jorgensen to chase Yates? Why not just let him go?

[@JamesSpooner-p9z]

Awesome analysis! Thanks.

[@stevenappelget3564]

Knucklehead count: 4 Chips fan earned about a million knuckleheads.

[@jackspeed650]

"..double, triple, quadruple knucklehead " :)

[@MontrealMike]

Thanks for keeping count daily. Perhaps the "quadruple knucklehead" could've counted for 4 knuckleheads, but it's the scorekeeper's (i.e. your) decision.

[@mjcohnmd]

Also go back to stage 12 where Cav was relegated. The reason Cav had to swerve off his line was similarly because an Arkéa lead out rider was again inattentively peeling away nearly taking out Cav in full sprint the same way an Arkéa rider today took out the Lotto rider. I don’t think it was malicious but to me it was lackadaisical and negligent. And in both cases, it seems to me that the victim got penalized.

[@painterQjensen]

Sending up a teammate to jump to is a classic, and pogi clearly has the power to create a gap even to vingegaard.

[@bsidhom]

They had a westerly wind (i.e., tailwind) going up the relatively steep Tourmalet, which partly explains why neither group could get much of a draft benefit. I wouldn’t fault anybody for this. You still seem to be unconvinced of Pogacar’s form, which is somewhat surprising to me. Guess we’ll see in Nice. 🙂 I’d say the only real knucklehead today was the chip thrower.

[@baffinsansterre]

You can close the book, we have a tdf winner. We see why Jonas need a Simon Yates in his team.

[@tonyg3091]

Pig doesn’t have one either. Simon Yates I mean. 😂

[@paulflory3532]

Exactly why VIsma had Sepp Kuss on their team originally.

[@gahbahjj]

I'll add my support for you to do a quick vid on the next stage & tactics the teams can make the best use of their people. if utube gives you revenues for your posts - all the better for you and us. i always watch you for analysis after the hilites - thanks

[@luizmcmesquita]

I still don't know why UAE isn't letting Visma pull. Last year, Visma (Jumbo, back then) had the yellow jersey and let UEA pull and just kept on their wheel, and it worked. This year, UAE have the jersey but they're still pulling. Don't understand.

[@tonyg3091]

@@luizmcmesquita UAE are moving at the exact tempo that suits Pog, no more no less. And this tempo is one that kills Visma riders one by one until only Jorgenson and Jonas remain. And then Pog kills them. This is in a nutshell.

[@natebusch2266]

Something about that stage reminds me of the time I was in the early breakaway of the 2001 Saturn cycling classic and I got got by a counter attack move that included Chris Horner. Chris Horner attacked at the bottom of Guanella pass and destroyed me and everyone else in that group. Then I got caught and passed by the John Vaughters group near the last part of the climb… yup being in the early break is cool for fun and publicity til you get caught and then not so much …

[@eljeferaider]

UAE is just the stronger team this year. Today they were just hammering the front

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Yep. But the back to back mountain stages are coming. So there’s hope still for Jonas. He’s lighter so that may make the difference. Maybe 😜🦋🤞👊⛰️

[@DavidStacey-tx7on]

@@ChrisHornerCycling first few mountains in week 1 they and Pog seem to be testing Jonas and where he is at, once they realised this tuff kid is in good shape they are racing more defensive and smart. My take on it

[@gideonmthembu8693]

Pogy remains a moster and it's now looking certain he is bagging both grand tours. Remco still has balls and doing way better than expected. As for man of the tour Ving, he is amazing. This rider is coming from a life threatening crash with a recovery of less than a 100 days. He is giving us the entertainment far better than what we saw at the giro where Pogy toyed with everyone. He has to be careful and a calculating Pogy here or else he would be smoked up. Nice 🦋 CH.😊

[@roberthotter7008]

True All of them are great and to be admired for one or the other reason hope to see Vingegaard back on steeper climbs as he is the Mr. 1 climber in the bunch . But there can be onl, one BOSS, SirTadej, the best Cyclist of the last 30 years ( at least) imho

[@fraserjudd9483]

Thanks for the analysis Chris. I went for a gravel ride today with a pair of your Bontrager shoes I got in bend 8 years ago! Good stuff for us Knuckleheads.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Hope you enjoyed your ride. 👊🦋👞

[@SWells679]

Chris, i gotcha with the use of sprinters / trains using shoulders to make room & such. But, c'mon. I don't believe Van Gils tried to wreck, but that was an over the top kinda shoulder check.

[@MarkKanaster-ev6pq]

Beat Lance record up the climb by two minutes

[@DavidStacey-tx7on]

💉💉💊💊

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

💨🔥🦋👍

[@tonyg3091]

@@MarkKanaster-ev6pq Lance had a physique of a triathlete. Pog is a living statue of road cyclist.

[@ericvonhellens8822]

Top 10, 9th. The Solerism did good today. I remember in 1986, Andy attacked and after a few k, Greg went after him, caught him and left him to win the stage and get yellow. 👍🏻

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

👊🦋

[@ZBicyclist]

Phil and Roll kept saying how good Sean Quinn was doing up the Tourmalet, probably just because he's American. I can understand Quinn taking all the EF turns, but a breakaway where nobody else rotates through with dozens of km to go is doomed.

[@hoogabooga9736]

they're paying him for those awful TDF diary videos.

[@TheGotoGeek]

Politt is starting to look like Declercq.

[@mumblerapkilla5406]

Politt makes Declerq look like the toy tractor my brother liked to ride when he was 4

[@todd.goslin6190]

I had to feel for Dovy Day Go Du!

[@johntrumbull2910]

Wasn’t Vinegaatd able to match Pogacar accelerations last year? I seem to remember Pog appearing a bit frustrated to see Vin on his wheel. The point being, Vin performance is impressive but not the same. It takes a long time for the body to heal

[@jerrychicken967]

Just heard Pog beat LA's climb record of Le Pla d'Adet by 2 minutes?? Ooh! Naughty Naughty! ;)

[@Michael00000001]

Shoulder at sprint: you're looking to the wrong pictures. You need to watch the camera from behind. He overtook at a place where there was not space enough to overtake and it was a dangerous turn. I don't think they fined him for the shoulder check.

[@themusette5894]

That guy is Pringles Roglic. Ok, I'll close the door behind me.

[@tonypapay]

Great race! Had to turn Peacock off post race as those commentators were tongue tied.

[@PMP5240-e3i]

TJ so pissed his boys got brought back.. haha.. cant figure out why they have such a bias guy on the show... I cant watch it either

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

🦚🦋🤣👊

[@VeloWeaponry]

Peacock coverage is horrible.

[@mracer8]

@@VeloWeaponry just watch the race! you don't have to listen to before the race bahbah! the video feed is worldwide feed! so it won't be any more or less horrible then the rest of the world!

[@dorseykindler9544]

@@VeloWeaponryIt really is

[@fishandfloral]

Why aren’t the organizers placing barriers on the steepest parts of the climbs, where throngs of fans generally act like a**holes, blocking the roadway, touching the riders and tossing stuff at them? It happens every single mountain stage.

[@gerthenriksen8818]

Thanks. Would it have been different if Kuss had been there today?

[@tonilauge5786]

Vingegaard and subscribers miss Primoz 😷

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Yep. Primoz may have helped with that chase. 🥲🦋

[@Maestrodeluniverso]

Chris, what would be the Visma strategy? What would be the UAE estrategy to protect Pogacar?

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Visma only real strategy would be to hope Jonas gets a tad better. Then anything could happen as we saw last year. There is small hope that Pogi’s legs fade after such a long time being at the top. Covid is around and could hit anyone. But visma do not have a two rider option in the race, so they cannot put any real pressure on UAE unless Jonas level goes up or Pogi’s goes down. But with only a 1:57 lead Pogi, certainly any change in fitness could make that happen very quickly still. 🤔🦋🔥👍

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Round #2. Let’s see how the big climbs go and see if Jonas’ lighter weight helps him to bridge the gap in fitness to Pogi. The important thing for now is that Jonas always stays with Pogi and does not try to win the race tomorrow or on the next couple of mountain stages, unless Jonas feels the legs have improved greatly. So Visma strategy is to wait patiently and hope time helps Jonas improve. 👊🦋🤔

[@mracer8]

I am not Chris and Visma don't have enough mountain goat to do damage to UAE unless I am mistaken! just keep Pogi safe and fuel and this thing is a done deal! I have yet to see Jonas make a attack in 14 days of racing so is hard to believe they can put the hurt in with the team they have left! maybe tomorrow Jonas can do a 197km solo breakaway and win by 8 min!! just like Floyd Landis did back in 2006 with that 120km ride! hahahha!!!

[@stevesims-d6c]

@@ChrisHornerCycling what if Jonas had latched onto Yates before Pogi made his move?

[@noternunstoned]

Pog is showing JV's weakness, his lack of training time, oh well, next year.

[@flexkikr]

Jonas should’ve stopped too and stand next to Tadej while having a nature break! 😅

[@mracer8]

He did, but he is standing right behind Tadej :P

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

😜🦋

[@counselor5286]

yes you were right CH power trumps strategy.

[@ranisharoni75]

Can Pogacar break Pantani's 98 record today up to Plateau de Beille?

[@stuartroberts6272]

8% faster than previous best times? Was it Aero sock, a tail wind, pedaling at a higher cadence or shorter cranks

[@pfeifencarl]

Thanks for calling out the Chips-Guy. Knucklehead for sure. What about Bengalos (red smoke) right on the track? Apart from riders risk of loss of orientation and crashing into spectators - with riders going all out up the mountain, they do not breath air, they drink it - pulling that crap deep into their lungs. Ticks me off no end. What do you think? Overreaction on my part?

[@sianb1260]

Had to check when you said "bonking" as it meant something else to me. Luckily urban dictionary confirmed your definition 🚴😂

[@mattpotter8725]

Chris, i was waiting patiently here in the UK for your analysis of the stage because watching this i thought, like you, perfectly executed plan on the final climb by UAE, but there's still a nagging thought in the back of my head that says was this necessary, and we'll only know after tomorrow's stage if this was wise. Now it's perfectly possible that it was the best way to go and Pog either rides tempo tomorrow, or even does the same thing again, but surely he's burnt some matches today by doing this and he, and his super domestiques, may pay for this effort tomorrow? Great analysis as usual but i was hoping to hear some thoughts on what Visma could have done to try to combat this. Maybe there wasn't anything, as you say this Visma team ain't the same one as last year, maybe Jorgenson just doesn't have it in his legs, but i felt he needed to go all in to bring back Yates, even if it meant his team leader being left exposed later up the climb, but all Visma riders drop away so this happens anyway the moment the peace is increased. I have to say I've been very disappointed with Jorgenson. I know it's easy to criticise and he's young and maybe it's too much to expect for him to perform consistently day in day out in a 3 week race like the Tour, but after his form in the Dauphiné i expected more. I wonder if Pog (and UAE in general) lured Visma into a false sense of security by saying they didn't need to attack today, but unlike the stage a few days ago where Pog attacked on an earlier climb only to be brought back and ultimately beaten by Jonas he went on the final climb where i think he knew he wouldn't get into the same difficulties, there was just no time to be able to respond and once it flattened off towards the top Pog could time trial his way to the line taking even more time. Is there any way to combat this? Thinking a bit more if Jorgenson didn't have the legs couldn't Vingegaard have put in a burst before Pog attacked? Sure Pog gets on his wheel but it just looked far too easy for Adam Yates to sprint away and then for Pog to do the same minutes later.

[@eljeferaider]

I really thought healey had it but pogatron blew up 🆙 the race😮‍💨

[@djexidor4670]

My man!

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Camp 👊🦋😜

[@mokasusa]

Hey Cris...you think you could hold Pogs wheel there?

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Nope 🥲🦋💪

[@joehopfield]

If the shoulder goes into the elbow, they'll crash every time.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

True that. 😱🦋

[@craighamley3669]

Damned right... That's why camping out at the tightest corner before the prime line in Cat 3-5 crits is so popular with the spectators 🙄

[@petedog9581]

UAE works as a team better w/o Ayuso. He was reluctant to take his turn pulling for Tadej.

[@henkmogillo7352]

When Almeida was playing with his computer what he put on the screen? 3 sec power and map?

[@RichHarvey-j5o]

Just a quick question where’s Jullian Alepheliep (yeah I know I butchered the spelling)? Just curious. Thanks.

[@mamar20000]

Stage 15: I can't believe Pogacar is not doping. The superiority on the other top riders is so big that it doesn't seem human. Chris, do you care to comment? Best

[@debasishnayak8610]

I think that's with jonas as well

[@stuartwalker6786]

The rider most dangerous to Pogacar on GC is Pogacar! Unless he starts NOW riding 'defensively' In terms of stop trying to put more time into the other 2 (bonus seconds at the finish apart) he increases his chances of sabotaging his own TDF win!, there is NO WAY he should lose 2 mins if he follows JV and RE wheels and allow them to absorb ALL the stress of trying to find a way to get that time back. He can repeat the tactic in todays stage of shooting AY or even JA (a bit more difficult given his position and sure to result in a reaction from at least CR/Ineos) off the front on the last climb and then leave it to the other teams to pull it back and sit on them (not bridging), let them do all the work and hopefully Yates stays away for another win for UAE or if brought back, Pogacar will be the fresher, save energy for that massive last week, possibly gain bonus seconds or at the very worst doesn't lose time. ALSO....They should Identify the idiot who threw Cheesy Wotsits into Pogacar's face and out him!! They don't belong anywhere near a bike race!

[@nigelstead8424]

He leads by 1.57 atm I think. Pogi won his first TDF by overturning Roglic’s lead of 1.56 on the TT. His lead is not decisive and it would be risky for him to simply try and defend it with so far to go and a big TT at the end. Besides he is at his best when he tries to win races.

[@mracer8]

Wow, how negative racing can you get! if you can't gain time but only ride so defensively even with the strongest team, the fastest rider in the mountain! maybe you shouldn't bother with racing!! nobody tell Pogi to go Kamikaze and do a 80km breakaway! but keeping the pace high and attack close to the finish shouldn't be a issue or risk as long as UAE keep a rider near by with pocket full of GEL and Drink for Pogi!! You can not go into the final tt stage with just a 1-2 min advantage where a bike issue or small mishaps will ruined your whole year of preparation!!

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

I can’t wait to see if the back to back climbing helps out Jonas any. Jonas is lighter but pogi is flying. Yes pogi has to not let big balls over ride smart defensive riding. And Yep. Throw that chip guy out. 🤔👊🦋😱

[@tonycrabtree3416]

@@mracer8Jonas did ride defensively for two straight tour victories.

[@tonyg3091]

@@nigelstead8424Correct. He needs to enter the last stage with about 3 minutes on Jonas AND Remco (very important) so he can feel a winner. 2 minutes is not enough so I guess they will repeat the same tactics over and over-grind Visma on the climbs until only Jonas is left and then attack in the last km-try to put 15-20 seconds in him every mountain stage/ But we will see of course, this situation is still very unpredictable

[@GuntherL1]

Zero credibility. Armstrong and Bruyneel should be allowed to return to cycling. This is much, much worse.

[@jerrychicken967]

Any ideas on the form of Pog and Jonus? Last year Pog started to fail in the last week of the Tour so is it always that a good rider can ride themselves in? Will Jonus start to crack? I hope not as I like a close race :)

[@morganconey4814]

Potentially if Roglic was still in the race he might have responded to Yates attack... So many what ifs 🤔

[@rvangeles]

The best defense is offense a chess strategy put to use by Tadej.

[@dankerman321]

The problem with breakaway groups is that there are always baggage slowing the group down... those riders are knuckleheads.

[@sanastela]

I like how Tadej had a Richard Mille watch on. I think Adam Yates also had one on this stage. What is the cost of that watch? 250k? 😱😅

[@alessandrobardini6885]

The knucklehead with the chips was wearing the breton flag, so probably a Gaudu's fan. This "football like" behavior should stay out of cycling

[@IvoRilovic]

The stage probably decided the Tour, Pogačar had record time, 6.7 w/kg, 2 min faster than Lance. Video title: Knucklehead spectator

[@johnhermens5002]

Can we get a video detailing the history of 'MamanVictaCampanaerts' and Chris?

[@robinbeckford]

Police will be under huge pressure to identify and find that idiot. When the cameras focussed on Sean Quinn, I kept thinking that he looks like a younger Romain Bardet. Victor C never disappoints; he seems to be getting better as he gets older!

[@robanderson9565]

you reap what you sow