Pointless kpop opinions y’all always throw around

Some kpop stans can't stop talking about certain opinions without realizing they make no sense.
In this video we'll take a look at some of these opinions and why they are absolutely pointless.
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Intro song: TXT - Thursday’s child has far to go (instrumental)
Outro song: IVE - Dear Cupid (instrumental)
Timestamps:
0:00 intro
0:31 pointless opinion 1
1:15 pointless opinion 2
1:55 pointless opinion 3
2:36 pointless opinion 4
3:03 pointless opinion 5
3:33 pointless opinion 6
4:33 pointless opinion 7
5:05 pointless opinion 8
5:42 pointless opinion 9
6:27 outro

[@baby.blue_b]

tbh some raps on certain songs are not properly associated with the song itself or it doesn't fit sometimes, but they are necessary. there are idols whose job is to rap y'all

[@Lyssa3Lynn]

For me I feel like some groups just shouldn’t have rappers. I don’t think “rapper” should be a necessary position in every group if the raps are constantly ill-fitting in a song and bring its quality down, or none of the members are even particularly good in rap. Example being RV, I think their songs excluding raps are better in most cases, and despite Irene being “main rapper” she’s much more suited towards vocals/dance.

[@baby.blue_b]

@@Lyssa3Lynn Yes I agree a lot. It really isn't a necessary position to begin with since not all songs need raps, but more on vocals and ofc, choreography.

[@dinoman4655]

@Lyssa Lynn. I completely agree with you. GFriend never had a rapper and they made it work. I also feel like in some cases, there are idols who ended up getting rap positions, not because they are particularly good or have a passion for rap, but rather it was the only position available to them, and it really shows sometimes... Yes, most group's have rappers, but it's not a necessity in every single song especially if the group's/ song's concept does not suit it. Like you'll be hearing the hardest bars dropped on ballad song and it does not fit

[@ruum9]

@dino man Also I feel like rapper is just sometimes given to idols who can't particularly sing or dance just for the sake of giving them a position

[@zakuraoni1116]

People really be saying 'no hate' and then proceed to say the most toxic and offensive things And then end it with " well that's my opinion "...🙄

[@nuvwaa6074]

Lmao fr

[@pinkystinkr]

Fr it’s “I’m not racist but-“‘s sister

[@K1TTYBR4T]

@@pinkystinkrreminds me of that time some ktuber told ningning from aespa to go back to china because she’s “untalented”

[@missluna___]

1. "No hate though" and their opinion is nothing but hate. Yeah, sure Jan. 2. Sexy concepts as a debut just rub me the wrong way considering how young idols are debuting now. 3. Dear god stop commenting on other people's bodies, people. 4. Raps are necessary. They can be poorly placed within songs but they're still necessary. 5. Everyone's taste is different and I don't understand why more people don't understand this. It's weird. 6. There are toxic stans literally everywhere and people need to stop acting like it's a localized thing to one particular area. 7. "Underrated" after Mamamoo just came back and completely obliterated their own records. Like... make that make sense. 8. People trying to say that a group "fell off" is just strange to me. It's not like one comeback that didn't land exactly perfect is going to toss a group into nugudom. 9. Aaaaaand finally, Blackpink are at the mercy of their company like almost every other idol in the industry and they likely have no control over when they have comebacks or how often. K-pop stans need to relax.

[@BaemonFan]

For 5th I will just like to say I also said I didn't like sneakers or dice But I didn't meant it as a fact like "this song is not listenable and no one can like it" I said it in a way that I know people have different opinions and one of those opinion is mine which is I don't like it And I am sure most of the people say it in the same way. And why do I even bother to mention such a thing? Becuz I want my fav to release better music And let them have idea that some didn't like it I mean if people are gonna appreciate every freaking beat thier fav release than music won't matter anymore and they kpop will be filled with random noises

[@gfredsbable]

Isn't 8 what literally happened to weeekly

[@missluna___]

@@gfredsbable I mean Jiyoon also left during that time so they had sort of a double-whammy between having a comeback that didn't go over well and then losing a member. I'm hoping that they go back to the old concept.

[@arijeanz]

being able to separate your feelings from reality is a thing some stans gotta learn. sometimes you can say you just don't vibe with a group or song and not have to make up justifications for it. the idea that whatever you're critiquing has to have some inherent fault for you to feel ok abt not reacting positively to it is... concerning.

[@kath9088]

I 100% agree on the BLACKPINK opinion (and all the rest, surprisingly!) - I think the stans have said the girls are being mistreated for so long they want a new narrative and I really can't blame them... You're right though, what do we know? None of us know them personally

[@kath9088]

But I disagree with the comment of 'if it was anyone else you would scream mistreatment' because this IS an issue unique to BLACKPINK in terms of a global stage, all the other top groups put out music at a decent or sometimes too fast rate and then BP barely comeback ever

[@pratyushpavansaikia8161]

About sexy concept we're not saying we're looking for a sexy minor. No, that's not what we're suggesting. Yes, there were times where idols were exploited but not all of them. I mean look at sistar, they're known for their sexy concepts but they didn't start it until Dasom became an adult. And looking the way Hyolyn is still doing it even after starting her own agency shows that they used to do it because they were into it. That's what we mean when we say we want sexy concepts. Sexy doesn't always mean derogatory, it can be empowering too

[@baby.blue_b]

the third one is so true, so like are you saying they were ugly before they gained weight? people should stop commenting on someone's body unless its actually a health concern.

[@angelicacortes898]

There are raps that downgrade the quality of a song, so I disagree that raps are never unnecessary. Why add a piece of bad writing that doesn't fit the rest of the song? That's unnecessary. People accept whatever crap they get as long as they feel the line distribution was fair. Rap wouldn't be unnecessary if it actually upgraded the song.

[@ruum9]

Music wise it can be unnecessary but they meant that it had to be done because the rapper in the group needs to get lines. There are some rappers that can't sing well so they can only have rap lines and that's what makes a song messy. Imo that's why I think the position of the rapper in kpop should stop being a requirement.

[@our_honeymoon712]

oh my god i agree with number seven to bits. i saw someone say that itzy was underrated, that cherry bullet was nugu. i have another pointless opinion, “ you can’t defend and idol since you don’t know them so have to believe the victim. “ well guess what? you don’t know the victim either.

[@Welchs-Fruit-Snacks]

THISSSSS

[@Lana-pk5go]

There is no such thing as an ugly idol. Being good-looking is literally part of their job description. Now, a particular idol's good looks may not be to a particular person's taste, but that does not cancel out said idol's good looks. All idols are good looking. No hate, though. XD

[@lmaostfu9094]

About 02:40, if we’re talking about the quality of the song here, yes, I see no problem in that. A problem in the kpop community (not a big one, there are much more serious and problematic stuff in this community) is that kpop stans tend to put fairness above quality.

[@BaemonFan]

I agree with u And I will just like to say I also said I didn't like sneakers or dice But I didn't meant it as a fact like "this song is not listenable and no one can like it" I said it in a way that I know people have different opinions and one of those opinion is mine which is I don't like it And I am sure most of the people say it in the same way. And why do I even bother to mention such a thing? Becuz I want my fav to release better music And let them have idea that some didn't like it I mean if people are gonna appreciate every freaking beat thier fav release than music won't matter anymore and they kpop will be filled with random noises

[@onalenna2383]

soft 4 taeng is officially my fav ktuber always spill nothing but fax

[@Yoest.1]

The 3rd opinion is true , kpop stans need to stop commenting on idols bodies . Its weird that they assume that their happier and healthier because they gained weight. And to add on the 5th opinion I find it weird when people write these long essays on why they didn’t like a song and why others shouldn’t like it , what happened to if you don’t like a song then skip it and move on with your day 😂 International kpop stans like to act like saints but let’s be real we just as toxic as knetz we just don’t want to take accountability so we rather just blame knetz

[@kkeurichim]

Istg this isn't even the worst part, I saw groups of people chatting in the comments of twitter saying how "underrated" blackpink's vocals are.

[@nazkh]

Seventeen…….underrated……..???????????? They must be living under a rock

[@itsaki7195]

always coming through with good content

[@arijeanz]

the "dreamcatcher is underrated" opinion in particular annoys me because dreamcatcher aren't underrated, they're simply niche. not everyone likes pop rock/pop punk. unless there is some sort of radical polar shift in popular music taste in the next week, dreamcatcher will never be hugely popular as long as they keep their sound, and idk why their fans can't accept that.

[@soft4taeng]

Exactly, they are niche and most kpop fans know about them anyway, not to mention they always get many views whenever they come back, so it's pretty ridiculous calling them underrated when there are groups out there that struggle to reach 1 million views. They still have a pretty good following and a solid fanbase even if their sound is not for everyone....

[@arijeanz]

on your 4th opinion: i think the reason this opinion is so prevalent is bc rapping rarely works in kpop, and hence people want groups without rappers. most kpop rappers aren't realllllly passable rappers either. the idea of the "all rounder group" or "all rounder idol" was popular in late 3rd gen to now, but now people are getting tired of it. we don't need groups where they sing and rap and dance. we don't need people that can do everything. what's the point of doing some many things if you can't nail any of them. it's better to be specialized at only one thing than try to include rappers and raps in your group because you want to make it "balanced"

[@markigirl2757]

I agree but I definitely think it’s bc they debuted idols not talented enough in singing bc their visuals or other factors is what the company wanted to sell so they have them in charge of rap so they at least get lines

[@arijeanz]

@@markigirl2757 yup this is a very common thing a lot of the time. they'll take the "visual member" and make them a rapper with few lines so it doesn't look like they're there just to look pretty

[@jasoninthea.m7471]

People ask for the sexy concept back, but they don't know that so many nugu & popular sexy concept girl group songs released between 2011-2020, and there's so many songs. People should just look up on the many old sexy concept songs of disbanded girl groups, so that they can at least appreciate old sexy concepts, so they don't have to say *Bring Back Sexy Concepts*

[@wenrock5546]

Blackpink one actually makes like the saying "actions speak more than words" would apply to that since the way they been performing and I'm pretty sure they cannot leave until their contract is up so jist because they might've had passion before doesn't mean they have it now things change they don't just stay the same all the time

[@stanloona2860]

Alright you ate with this one💅🏾💅🏾

[@sihyeoning]

"the rappers can't sing so you can't say the rap was unnecessary" well maybe the companies should stop hiring untalented people just because they're good-looking and then make them rappers because they suck at singing... the songs are overflowing with unfitting rap verses and it's almost never executed well so yeah. i would rather the "rappers" get no lines than ruin the song structure

[@lukewelder3092]

And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. Great job I’m with you

[@arijeanz]

opinion 5: songs CAN be objectively-ish bad. yes musical enjoyment is subjective, but music, like many other arts, has parameters for what is considered good and what isn't. overprocessing, bad mixing, lack of cohesion in either production or lyrics, the overuse of gimmicks/trends, etc these are all things that can and often do make music bad. now you can enjoy a bad song and don't let anyone stop you from doing it! but yes songs can be bad. i disagree w u there

[@soft4taeng]

i absolutely agree with you, i mean, a song can objectively have a bad mixing and can even objectively sound cheap and unfinished, however you can't just say it's an objectively bad song because music taste is always subjective

[@sur_un_nuage]

about the rap parts like maybe the song needed a better rap with a different delivery but ofc the rap is needed for the rapper to have lines

[@jabaekhun3608]

I feel I agree with most of the things you said great video but I feel the whole k fans and I fan it’s something that’s sorta true it’s just we have bad fans but I feel they have a little more if anyone is curious I’ll explain more

[@BaemonFan]

Ok I will just like to say I also said I didn't like sneakers or dice But I didn't meant it as a fact like "this song is not listenable and no one can like it" I said it in a way that I know people have different opinions and one of those opinion is mine which is I don't like it And I am sure most of the people say it in the same way. And why do I even bother to mention such a thing? Becuz I want my fav to release better music And let them have idea that some didn't like it I mean if people are gonna appreciate every freaking beat thier fav release than music won't matter anymore and they kpop will be filled with random noises.

[@soft4taeng]

If you simply dislike a song you should be free to express your opinion, but unfortunately there are so many people that act as if you had a horrible taste just because you happen to enjoy a song. There's a big difference in saying "i didn't like this song" and saying "this song was terrible"

[@kpopnimation]

@@soft4taeng I fully support anyone who hates and rips apart songs. I don't care about people being hateful unless it's directed towards another human.

[@sofia-qo8gx]

ate

[@yirensdiorperfume5190]

for opinion #4, yes I would prefer for an idol to have no lines and to just be a backup dancer if that means I can fully enjoy a song without worrying abt having to skip their horrific rap

[@markigirl2757]

Uhhh then what would be the point of debuting lol

[@ohbooyourselves]

@@markigirl2757 Literally anything else than being a wanna-be Tupac 😂

[@narutotrickzxtv3D]

I think there are some exceptions to the fact that Korean Stan’s are a little more toxic and I guess you can just blame that on cultural differences, but I’ve seen Korean stans really be over the top to the point it’s kind of annoying and it’s not even just about dating rumors, like an idol yawns during an interview I can guarantee you Korean stans would be pissed and call the idol disrespectful I’ve seen it, where as western stans I feel can sympathize more and understand that despite the perfect fantasy surrounding an idol that they are in fact human, like what they would consider a scandal in Korean is kids stuff or non existent here in the west, and I think that’s what creates this toxic vs non toxic fan behavior conversation.

[@ruum9]

Ur so right, I don't think kstans are the devils child and international stans are the good ones, but I've certainly seen kstans nitpick on random things an idol did much more than international stans

[@Sour-Rosy]

Ikr specially the rap part

[@ruum9]

I personally dislike sexy concepts in kpop because if they aren't directed by the idols themselves then they usually come from an ill intention. It 9/10 times isn't about being confident and exploring your sexuality but instead is for men to thirst at and results in a lot of toxic discussions where the idols are talked about like objects and are only loved for their bodies, and as you said the idols can be exploited and harrassed from performing in this concept. That's why I only trust groups like (G)I-DLE with this concept because they know what they're doing.

[@soft4taeng]

Yeah it would be much better if idols were in control when it comes to sexy concept, otherwise it's just an excuse for the company to objectify them, even against their own will

[@vim2339]

I agree with alll you ate ❤

[@schmeterling]

2:36 ahaha that's me!! I just don't like rap, so I would like if there was no rapper position.

[@strawberrypinkpvssy]

you always slay

[@jushiksdaughter296]

3,4 and 5 makes total sense.

[@Noname-uw6rg]

Seventeen isn't underrated. They just forgettable, at least in my country🥲 Agree about the fell off. Those song maybe not people's choices but that not means they're fell of just because one of that.

[@seoktyu]

nah cus i saw a short that said i hate nmixx dice (no hate!) girly what

[@pinkystinkr]

Spoke nothing but facts as always

[@Kiran-kira]

9. then there's literally somi who hasn't had a comeback in a little too long 💀💀

[@susjsjsjjsjshssnehhshehe1359]

ummm didnt you say on your new video that Antfrangile was the worst some in 2022

[@sasha_brausaot]

This one was lit

[@Everythingz127]

For number 5, since you said music taste is subjective, it then means that saying a song is "good" should then follow the same logic as a song is "bad". Or you meant that for only for those who find a song bad ?

[@soft4taeng]

They obviously follow the same logic, i can say a song is good and someone else might find it terrible

[@user-tv4mn2co8d]

raps... some are unnecessary but that is just because the lyrics and flow are not fitting in the song. i think some raps can be changed to a more smoother line. they say opinions like this because they think in that way. the fans think that the rap was unnecessary because it did sound unnecessary. i feel like some raps should've been made more carefully. mostly when the idol whose rapping doesn't quite fit the vibe of the rap. give the member a fitting line that best matches their concept and flow. that will make the rap much better.

[@carolwfsch]

i agree with the sexy concept one

[@ohbooyourselves]

#4 yes most of these "Rappers" need to retire

[@jaymercado1198]

This tea..

[@cookinglikeachefima5starm]

Okay but why did I agree with all of themm

[@kosmobound]

fax no printer

[@euphoricxiu]

unpopular opinion : we should credit lee sooman for introducing kpop to the world

[@sarahjyun2044]

U are the same person who called anti fragile hot garbage and the worst comeback this year but we are not allowed to say sticker an actual bad song the worst song to ever exist lol

[@soft4taeng]

you're allowed to express your opinions on a song, just like i did for anti fragile, but it doesn't make sense saying a song is OBJECTIVELY bad because music taste is subjective, in fact i only said anti fragile was bad for me, as an opinion, not as a fact