How the CT4V Blackwing is Changing the Game

[@rdollie1]

Great review 👍

[@PointShiftDrive]

Thank you for watching! much appreciated

[@RusstyGX]

I love mine. Its been the best kept secret in its class! People are learning more about them now though. lol . GM really did do a great job with these!

[@PointShiftDrive]

I agree! I can’t tell you how many times I have been on the configurator just window shopping. Never thought I would do that for a caddy.

[@michaelschneider1365]

I so regret a countyman. I had a chance to get a ct4 v sport. and passed it for a jcw. it’s amazing the jcw but this might beat a m228i grand coup or bmw 330i with an m package

[@PointShiftDrive]

@@michaelschneider1365 this is 💯 faster than all of those cars and drives way better. This thing is a beast

[@George0674]

The word is definitely getting out. Just twice this week I had two people ask if my ATSV was a Blackwing. Shame the ATSV didn't sell more. I have one of 125 built for 2019 (1 of 4 in Wave Metallic Blue with the 6 speed). I guess everyone bought M3\M4s instead (I was one of them in 2015). Aside from the interior, I like the ATSV more. Keeping my eyes peeled for a 4BW since it seems to address my few gripes with the ATSV, like real buttons instead of the annoying CUE touch controls. I also love the two tone grey/black interior.

[@michaelschneider1365]

@@George0674 hopefully the slight redesign and interior don’t make it to pricey. right now the ct4, sport and v and blackwing are the perfect price beats bmw and others. so hopefully stays that way. I want one when my lease is up in 2025

[@ellisdaniels6837]

Well, I’m going to test drive one today. Thank you for the video.

[@PointShiftDrive]

Good Luck 👍

[@Ryan-cp4rh]

I love watching these reviewers enjoy driving this car as much as I do. You can really hit the throttle on the highway and get quickly to 100mph and not feel a thing. It feels like you are gliding on the pavement.

[@soarabove337]

A year later & still want to say: I enjoyed this vid. Picked up my 24 BW last week & can’t wait to get past the break-in period.

[@clubracer6]

I’ve watched dozens of reviews on this car and this one is up there as one of the best. Well done! Your last point is my favorite point in that I love that it flies below the radar. Those who know, know and for those that don’t, I am happy for them to think I’m driving some tarted up rental car.

[@PointShiftDrive]

Thanks for the compliment. And yes, its an amazing car.

[@LawrenceBarber-q7e]

Thanks so much for your review! I have a 2023 CT4-V Blackwing that I love, and your really explained everything so perfectly.

[@AugustusMcMillan]

this is one of the best reviews for this car.

[@PointShiftDrive]

Thanks! 🙏

[@Bigpete327]

What an amazing, beautiful American hot rod !!

[@PointShiftDrive]

That car left a real impression on me. I have been on the configurator once a day. It’s an awesome 🚗

[@aesir0784]

@@PointShiftDrive Did you ever end up ordering one? - Curious! - I'm headed to the NY Safety Track in western NY in August. Cannot wait to see what it can do on a negative camber bike track! lmao - should be a damn good time.

[@vinsetta]

As an owner of a 23 BW I so wish GM would inform the media who does reviews that carbon fiber 1 and 2 packages are not available on any 23 versions unless it’s a IMSA edition. Supplier problems. Every review says get carbon fiber. Good review though

[@PointShiftDrive]

Yes shortages may apply and effect builds. But that can change day to day. Also they still have both carbon options on the configurator. So doubt it’s totally off the table. Thanks for watching and congrats on an awesome car!

[@thesteeners]

100% only supplier issues so they could push the 15000$ in stickers on those packages lmao they are obscenely priced, luckily i picked up on of the last 22s with carbon on it for 2500$ off msrp 😊

[@kaiichinose9590]

The ISMA addition is a Rio off and ugly as sin with those stickers and awful color mirror options. Love the ct4 bw but that isma gotta is not worth it.

[@JoshHookerJoshhook123]

@@kaiichinose9590you must be referring to the Watkins glen edition blue one. The Sebring and road Atlanta or gorgeous.

[@JoshHookerJoshhook123]

You could’ve gotten a 23 non special edition with cf1 or 2

[@scottandrews4822]

Awesome video! I LOVE my 2023 CT4-V BLACKWING!!!

[@PointShiftDrive]

Thank you! Glad you liked it. I hope you check out my up coming CT5 V video as well

[@scottandrews4822]

@@PointShiftDrive Awesome. I will watch it. I would love to have a CT5-V BW, but the $25K+_ price difference is just too much for me :)

[@PointShiftDrive]

@@scottandrews4822 the nonBW is still so much car

[@scottandrews4822]

@@PointShiftDrive True, but I have the CT4-V BLACKWING, so at least I'm in the BW family 😀

[@scottandrews4822]

I love my CT4-V BLACKWING. Great review! I don't have any issues with the steering or transmission. One thing to note: the later '23 model card have the Blackwing plaque under the V on the rear. GM ran out on thr earlier cars, and your test model, but people can call Cadillac Care and get one for FREE. Just give them your VIN number. I did that with mine and it looks better. I had the dealer install it so that it would be straight, but good instructions are included. Way to go GM! You've made a car that I'd equal to the BMW M3 and is superior to it in a few ways. Good job!!!

[@PointShiftDrive]

I might like the CT4V BW more than the 5

[@nickandrew05]

i just bought a 23 ct4 BW it didnt come with the badge and when i called to get it they said the program ended so you have to pay for it sadly.

[@PointShiftDrive]

@@nickandrew05 congratulations on a great car choice regardless! 🚗🏁

[@Ryan-cp4rh]

Dude thank you! I’m getting mine tomorrow and noticed that it was missing the black wing plaque!😊

[@jamescook7051]

Fantastic cars. I have it’s predecessor the ATS-V which is like the “OG” Blackwing that did not get the attention it deserved. Actually the ATSV is a little faster as well. And these twin turbo cars with a tune are on a whole other level!! Mine runs low 11s in the 1/4 mile with tune only on 93 pump gas.

[@PointShiftDrive]

GM did a really nice job on these chassis and power trains. This is one of those cars I still want to own someday myself after testing because of how much I enjoyed it.

[@fonhollohan2908]

I think Cadillac did a great job! with these blackwings, I hear what your saying though with your gripes about it's design features but overall I agree they nailed it with the ct4 and ct5 BlackWing compared to the previous discontinued models xls, sts, ats. When Cadillac really messed up and folks just stop buying Cadillac's all together but they made an incredible comeback with these BlackWings they really really did.

[@PointShiftDrive]

I love the CTV4 BW. Just buy it in a manual.

[@dtuna42]

Great review, awesome car. I just don’t understand the prices of the track editions, they offer a couple visual enhancements, but no performance upgrades at all.

[@PointShiftDrive]

Which enhancements are you referring to? If you mean the CF aero pieces, those aren’t just for looks.

[@wayneyadams]

The old Cadillac CTS was the first car in the world to have the 3.6 liter V-6 direct injection engine as well as the magnetic ride control suspension. 14:30 I have the older CTS and I constantly scratch mine up on parking bumpers, and a few years ago it actually tore loose and was dragging the ground.

[@PointShiftDrive]

But it looks soo good!

[@wayneyadams]

@@PointShiftDrive Yes it does, if I can just remember to stop short of the parking bumpers. LOL

[@bencarey243]

I just traded my 2008 cts with same engine 16 years old for a 2023 blackwing!

[@wayneyadams]

@@bencarey243 I found one that had everyting I wanted, but the dealer was going to add a dealer surcharge becaus it is a limited edition. Actually, I will not drive the Blackwing because everything is computer controlled, even the brakes. When you apply the brakes there is a sensor that send information to a computer that brakes the car while simultaneously applying resistance, so it feels like you are connected to the brakes. There is supposed to be a backup in case the computer loses its mind, but I don't trust it. Even worse, the emergency brake is also computer controlled so in a catastrophic computer failure you have nothing. The accelerator is computer controlled, the suspension, and there are all sorts of driving aids that take over if you try what the computer thinks is a dangerous maneuver. You are driving a car, other than sitting it, you are playing a computer game, where even the engine sounds in the cabin are computer generated and piped through your speakers. I'm old school from the late sixties and early seventies when people actually drove cars, and if you screwed up, you suffered the consequences, not like today's wimps who have to be protected from everything.

[@benoitgiroux1779]

getting mine this Friday

[@PointShiftDrive]

I bet the wait is killing you

[@dougmaverick3287]

My friend it's a real shame that you didn't get the Cadillac with the proper manual transmission to test drive.

[@PointShiftDrive]

I didn’t have a choice. But I’m sure it’s great

[@tappietaps]

Whats the song in the intro? Super chill.

[@bradleyjordan9418]

I love my 23. I have the TR-6060 6 speed and it pulls hard in every gear. This car is so much fun to drive and the rev match makes the downshifts sound awesome. No lift shift and launch control standard. Definitely a true sleeper.

[@PointShiftDrive]

Congrats on the ride!

[@alexpaic2984]

Not one single person that buys this car gives an absolute shit about the back seat. Like literally I drive this car daily I don’t even look at the back seat. I don’t recall opening the back door ever in 3 months of owning the car. I probably did when I bought it but other than that.

[@PointShiftDrive]

You sir... are NOT a dad. Congrats on the car.

[@alexpaic2984]

@@PointShiftDrive thank you. Appreciate it.

[@michaelschneider1365]

I need a back seat for my son. this car seems better then a 330i

[@PointShiftDrive]

@@michaelschneider1365 back seat is decent for kids. Not great for adults though but okay.

[@michaelschneider1365]

@@PointShiftDrive is this or the v sport lower version better then a 330i. I had an option to get a ct4 sport and passed and got a new countryman instead and I sort of regret it. but hopefully in late 2024 early 2025 i’m top choice considering ct4 v or ct4 sport if it’s better then a bmw 330i or m228i grand coupe.

[@scottandrews4822]

Great photography and music choice!

[@karizmasonya]

Great review. Great car.

[@PointShiftDrive]

Thanks! 👍

[@Bucketheadland1]

Great video 👊💪🏁

[@markjoppru8015]

Great one - thanks for the review

[@PointShiftDrive]

Thanks for watching.

[@Crawltopia]

Can't wait to get one! Great video!

[@PointShiftDrive]

You are a lucky man! Thanks for watching!

[@loopba]

For the same price, would you take the Guilia QV or CT4VBW?

[@PointShiftDrive]

Hmmm 🤔 That’s a really tough decision. I think I have an answer though. Id take the Giulia if both cars are auto. Id take the 4BW if it’s a stick.

[@XXLpinut]

Is it still possible to place an order for this car? This looks like a dream car!!!

[@PointShiftDrive]

I’m sure.

[@k9gamerz145]

Waiting on an allocation for a yellow one with a stick!! Looking forward to the pure driver engagement!

[@PointShiftDrive]

I’m excited for you! That’s awesome!

[@tlschmidt71]

Also, it is assembled in Michigan.

[@nickpsaros9853]

I think this is a gem

[@PointShiftDrive]

Yup. USA

[@francisschmidt9683]

Great review

[@wojtekp3212]

Is the rear smaller than an integra type s? Great review!

[@PointShiftDrive]

Yes. The rear is tight.

[@bigredracingdog466]

I'm looking at one right now that has been on the dealer's lot for months. The price has come down below MSRP recently, but not to where it makes me want to buy it. I'm also looking at a Stingray and dealers are offering all kinds of discounts on those.

[@PointShiftDrive]

@@bigredracingdog466 do you need to people haul or no? That should give you your answer

[@bigredracingdog466]

@@PointShiftDrive I don't, but I do take some long trips and it seems like the CT4-V would be a better road trip car. I may end up with the Stingray simply because it's a better deal.

[@PointShiftDrive]

@@bigredracingdog466 buy the car that fits your use case and lifestyle. if you buy a car based on a "deal" you will eventually regret it.

[@thaiblkman904]

Yeah my girls are little so they fit in the back perfect

[@fivediggy]

Very nice presentation, I'm going to pick mine in a few days. I disagree with the notion to explain how special this vehicle is. It's like jewelry if you don't know, ya don't know

[@PointShiftDrive]

Excited for you. It’s a great car. It’s one of the only press cars I was sad to give back

[@austinpowers1999]

V in Roman Numerals is actually equivalent to 5

[@PointShiftDrive]

🤯

[@Turner-S]

The V in the name doesn’t mean that but u r correct

[@Ghanshyam00000]

I was wondering why I didn't clear this car's information this Blackwing is awesome great 472 hp this is a huge amount of hp and torque could you tell me exactly the difference between the BMW m3 That car looks great very similar hp and torque price is a lot of discrepancies however I like this car, especially front grille this is a fantastic review thanks

[@PointShiftDrive]

Glad you liked it!

[@fzr1000981]

The M3 puts down over 500 on a dyno, BW is about 415 (but runs lower boost with smaller turbos)

[@PointShiftDrive]

@@fzr1000981 the non competition M3 is RWD and a better direct comparison. The M3 weighs more as well. But I believe the M3 is more tunable with tons of aftermarket support.

[@fzr1000981]

@@PointShiftDrive too bad Cadillac didn't fit larger turbos from factory to make it a better tuner car...boost capacity is limited stock

[@scottandrews4822]

​@@fzr1000981Isn't 472 HP enough? The auto actually does 0-60 in 3.6s with the manual being .2-.3 sex slower...

[@michaelschneider1365]

Is a ct4 v regular sport good also because that’s a 47,000 car vs this which is almost 60 plus

[@PointShiftDrive]

It’s excellent. But the question is what are you gonna use it for?

[@michaelschneider1365]

@@PointShiftDrivei’m using it for everyday basis driving. I have such buyers remorse should have gotten a ct4 sport in dark grey in october but went for a countryman and now I have to wait till 2024/2025 when my lease is up. but I think i’m definitely getting ct4 sport or v instead of a jcw or bmw 330i.

[@scottandrews4822]

@@michaelschneider1365 Get the Blackwing if you can, even if you have to wait longer and save mnore $$ over the CT4-V (non BW). You won't be sorry. Otherwise, the "regular" CT4-V is a great vehicle too!

[@michaelschneider1365]

@@scottandrews4822 that’s what I plans to do. ct4 v ordering and hopefully a good lease deal around 500 or so a month with minimal down like 3,000

[@itsavlife]

Good review, I disagree a bit about the transmission though. Coming from the previous gen ATS-V 8Speed...the 10 speed is magnificent. Shifts as past as a PDK on the upshift....downshifts could be a touch faster. Agree on the sunroof. I am 5'11 and track my car a ton....I have to lean the seat back more so than I want...but still less than the ATS-V. Closed face helmet helps.

[@PointShiftDrive]

It’s a pretty decent transmission. But I think it could be even better some more programming

[@loopba]

Agree the 10-speed is not good, and obviously that person is biased based on their V sponsored channel. ZF in the Giulia QV so much better, as an example.

[@weltonmurray6744]

Get the carbon fiber package I have the Ats-v with it it's awesome even the front splitter yes it's low and you must be careful with it.

[@PointShiftDrive]

CF as a factory option is extremely limited or no longer available. Thank goodness for the aftermarket

[@JamesAMG]

Did you call that a CTS-V 4 Blackwing? Lol (1:20). I also noticed some of the scenes of the exterior were of a CT5. Oh well, all minor technicalities I guess haha.

[@PointShiftDrive]

Sorry bout that. Sometimes it’s easy to slip up. I’ll work on that. Thanks for watching

[@tomslawsky4111]

There is only 1 area where GM really dropped the ball on this car: they significantly detuned the motor, so its performance didn't encroach on the CT5V BW. As a result, the car is a bit slower in acceleration than the base BMW M3 and it gets completely smacked down by the M3 competition in the quarter mile. It's not like the potential isn't there as My ATS-V manual picked up 6-7 mph in the quarter (draggy timed), or ~100 rear wheel horsepower, with only a tune a short throw shifter (stock exhaust). OK, GM also dropped the ball by not offering an LT2 V8 version of this car, too. That would have made it perfect, and I'd bet most buyers would forgive 0.5 seconds vs the Beemer in the quarter mile to have an LT2 in this car! Just my 2 cents.

[@PointShiftDrive]

Maybe the next generation BWs will have an edge.

[@ILoveTinfoilHats]

What do you mean detuned? It's got like an atmosphere of boost stock. You're telling me this thing can handle 20 PSI no problems? I know the block is good for it, but what about the transmission, internals, etc?

[@ericn3221]

Great review, but torque is not foot pounds. I know it's nitpicking, but for a reviewer it's important.

[@PointShiftDrive]

You are right. I should have just said pounds feet or nm. Either way thanks for catching that!

[@daboxer181]

Why would you complain that the car is not shifting fast when it's in comfirt mode? You don't want to be just cruising and have fast aggressive shifts . You want it to shift fast and aggressive when you're driving fast and aggressive. That's one of the complaints many people have with dial clutch cars. Which is why BMW uses the Zf8 in many cars. But you're driving a dual-clutch at slow speeds it shifts aggressive and jerky .

[@PointShiftDrive]

First off it’s not really a complaint it’s just an observation. Second of all my observation is actually true in all modes. I think in general the transmission is fine but it’s not a stand out feature. I think the way to buy this car is in manual form

[@daboxer181]

@@PointShiftDrive I appreciate the reply. I personally cannot drive manual in my city anymore . So I'd want the auto. Have you driven a zf8 transmission and if so how does this transmission stack up?

[@PointShiftDrive]

@@daboxer181 The GM 10 speed is good... but I almost feel like its too many gears. I prefer the ZF8. but it actually matters less about the number of gears and more about the way the transmissions are programmed. you just have to drive one to see if you like it or not. its pretty subjective. I recommend driving a G80 M3. that will tell you what you need to know.

[@daboxer181]

@@PointShiftDrive the amount of gears don't matter to me because I won't be using gears 7-10 when driving it aggressively. I just want to know if it's fast and snappy like a zf8 which I know is a fantastic fast auto . I just can't drive standard anymore . Too much traffic in my city. I want to chill most of the time and play F1 driver when I want to have fun.

[@PointShiftDrive]

@@daboxer181 I think you will love it. Go drive one

[@jeremyjune7002]

The carbon fiber package 1 & 2 shortage is probably gonna hurt sales, i know im not buy one without the carbon fiber packages. Waiting until the shortage is over to order one.

[@PointShiftDrive]

I agree. If one with FULL CF was available, id be hard pressed to pass on it. But without CF, id wait.

[@carlbeveridge384]

I agree. I ordered a 2022 in August ‘21 and had to wait until October ‘22 to get mine with both CF packages. I could have gotten it sooner but I’m thrilled I waited. In 2023, Track package cars are the only ones getting CF.

[@George0674]

Same boat here. There's one near me I like that has everything I want aside from the CF. Although I just learned Tapout Tuning makes replicas of the OEM carbon stuff. Only drawback is there are reinforcements for the dive planes on the OEM bumper that aren't present if you don't get the Carbon pkg from the factory, and those pieces aren't available separately.

[@the_track_enthusiast]

I don’t see how they price it as much as a ZL1. I love it but I see why you never see them

[@PointShiftDrive]

I think the Camero is a different buyer all together.

[@saganworshipper6062]

You never see them because there is simply not many of them in existence. Here's the 2022 production numbers. CT5-V BW Automatic: 925 Manual: 739 CT4-V BW Automatic: 1,127 Manual: 664

[@PointShiftDrive]

@@saganworshipper6062 it’s a very good point. I think your best shot at seeing these driving around might be in the Midwest.

[@scottandrews4822]

Hi, great video. Most people say that the top speed is 179 MPH, not 189 MPH. Kind of academic at that point :)

[@PointShiftDrive]

Thanks for watching... According to Cadillac, its >189 www.cadillac.com/sedans/ct4-v-blackwing

[@scottandrews4822]

Agreed with the reviewer. The top speed is 189 mph, not 179 mph. Somehow, thus rumor got started that it's 179 mph but it's not true. I have seen it noted as 179 in a few spots. But really, for 99.9% of the drivers of these cars, it's academic anyway.

[@scottandrews4822]

@PointShiftDrive Correct, it is 189. I was trying to say that somehow a rumor got started that it's 179, and for most people, the 10 mph difference is academic, as they will never get to either figure. I just didn't say it very well 😀

[@KingCast65]

Too bad GM didn't go all out for my SAAB Viggen 20 years ago right. Never sell that car though but one day I would love to snatch up one of these in a manual hell yes. Fuck Europe these days give me something different.

[@PointShiftDrive]

These are great cars and yes different.

[@southerncomfort1339]

Damn GM 3.6 litres twin turbo's n only 472hp! Come On Man!! The M3 n M4 has more HP from a 3.0 engine!! Give the car 515hp it still won't put quick your precious VETTE!!

[@RobTheNthusiast]

They do this for reliability reasons, also you’re talking about a V6 vs an inline 6

[@thomasferrarojr.9772]

​@KonaNthusiast Being a V6 has nothing to do with it having less power. Inline engines are simply inherently smoother and more balanced. And even that's not true anymore with counterbalance shafts. It's actually easier to get more power out of the V6 configuration.

[@craigloomis20]

50k ish to spend. This car, Gt350, Zl1 or TLX Type S

[@PointShiftDrive]

Blackwing in manual FTW

[@scottandrews4822]

It's CT4V BLACKWING not CT**S** 4 BLACKWING 😂, but otherwise great video!!

[@blackwng]

I’d take that thing to 189 all day on public roads lol

[@PointShiftDrive]

Why not? 🤣

[@brianmiller1977]

Bro, you lost me when you said that was the most ferocious 6cyl.... G80CompXD will absolutely smash a CTV4 and CTV5, Ive driven all of them and they both fall short when compared to the BMW's S58 G80 Comp XD... Last summer when I was in the market for a new car, im not a brand loyalist so I test drove almost every one of these: C8, Hellcat Charger, GT500, ZL1, Blackwing 4 & 5, RS3, RS5, RS7, GTR With all factors considered: OEM Performance Performance Ceiling Tuning gains with basic mods Performance Versatility(Drag, Roll, & Backroads) Practicality Drive-ability Real World Cost( ie not the fake MSRP, but how much dealers was actually listing them for) G80 Comp XD outperforms every single one of those listed above on the street from a dig... GT500 has the better roll but dealers were selling them for $145k, GTR $230k, C8 are slower then they should be for a two seater sports car, the only car that comes close(in all areas) was the RS3, but you have to spend another $15k-$20k in mods or so, and dealers had $12k-$17k markups on them.. With $4k of mods the G80 Comp XD is a 9 second 1/4 mile all weather all season highly practical performance daily driver. One minute I can have both kids comfortably in their backseats with groceries in the spacious trunk, and the next minute Im gapping C8 vettes... I would say its the greatest high performance daily driver every built. My decision was mainly based on performance metrics, and while some of those cars have a higher ceiling, many are only good on a prepped surface and in optimal conditions. For the platform you receive, and how easy it is to make them a 9 second car, all factors considered there wasnt much that really competes with it.. I was not at all impressed with either of the Blackwings OEM performance. I did however like the ZL1. Chevy did a great job with that platform, it hooks very well on the street for RWD and it handles extremely well... Dealers also did not have a markup on them, so for the $$ super high value. As they are easily tuned for 9 seconds too. I dont believe there are any CT4 hitting 9 seconds currently, even with Tap Out tuning packages hitting 700WHP with turbo upgrades. S58's can hit 720WHP & 700lbs with just downpipes, drop in air filters, and a custom E50 tune. No turbo upgrades required... I sided with the G80CXD and I love it more every time my hands touch the steering wheel. Again, Im not some BMW fanboy, this is my first BMW, but the quality and performance of this car has certainly made me to be a supporter of their brand. I test drove both Blackwings and I loved the design of the cars, but when it came to performance they both left me wanting a little more..

[@PointShiftDrive]

I own a G80 M3 manual. I love it. But that CT4V is no slouch. To that point, it felt very much one of the fastest V6s I have ever driven. But a V versus an I versus an H all have different characteristics. Point is, the Caddy is great. Especially at the price point. Congrats on your G8X

[@Z06ified]

Uh, a what?

[@foobird02]

Looking at the BW because my RS3 order delay and pricing

[@clubracer6]

@@PointShiftDriveI’m a bit torn between the CT4V BW vs the M3. I’ve had 20 something BMW’s and recently sold my F80 manual. I’m not a fan of the G80 nose and dashboard. I also like the Caddy for something different, but the G80 has a bigger back seat and I like the infotainment better. Would love the CT5V BW, but not sure I want to spend that much, plus the crappy MPG. What are the pros of your M3 vs this BW? I have to get a manual! So really these are my only 3 options for a RWD manual.

[@PointShiftDrive]

@@clubracer6 Well... you are facing the challenge many drive enthusiasts are also contemplating... Here are the facts: the CT4VBW has smaller rear seats. It overall feels a bit cramped but cozy. Do you need a roomy rear seat? I dunno. The press car I had wasnt a manual but I have heard the manual is good in the BW. but... id say the manual in the G80 is good too. BTW, I totally get your thinking when you are trying hard to look outside BMW. I have had so many BMWs its almost mundane to me now. BUT, and its a big BUT.... The G80, regardless of how it looks, DRIVES great. AMAZING actually. And yes, I do mean the RWD stick. I love how it behaves. its predicable and fast. its composed and eager. The G80s inline 6 is... freaking amazing too. reliable, tunable, and actually pretty economical when you need it to be. I just dont have anything bad to say about the entire car. Sure, the looks are a bit subjective... but at this point I think most people are over the issues with the grills. Jason Camisa did a video on the G80 M3 relatively recently where he was very impressed by the M3s driving dynamics and characteristics... You just cant go wrong. AND... yes, if you just want to do something new, the Caddy (either one) wont disappoint you. The CT5VBM has a large rear... and btw, I think will go up in value (being the last V8 Manual sedan GM makes... so maybe that matters to you.... maybe it doesnt. but its should be a factor. A g80 will just depreciate for another 10 years. then start to bounce back. Remember, BMW is going away with the manuals too. So to have a M3 in a manual AND RWD AND ICE configuration.... that will be desirable in the coming years. I guess buy for what satisfies your needs today. What happens in the future, is anyones guess. BUT you will enjoy any of these 3 choices.

[@anthonysciabarrasi2611]

"cadillac cts-v 4 blackwing" yeah ur entire review is invalid

[@PointShiftDrive]

Whats your perspective? id love to see your review. send me a link

[@biggygaming]

CTSV Blackwing???? Thumbs down I'm out

[@PointShiftDrive]

Totally! ✌️

[@scottandrews4822]

No there is NO S IN THE NAME. It's either CT4-V BLACKWING OR CT5-V BLACKWING. People calling it a CTS anything are mistaken...

[@mamajudah7269]

Hi, kind of disappointing, Cadillac suppose to be quiet, like riding down the road on a sound proof sofa. The person thought of this, to have sports Lamborghini vibes, not a good idea. Thanks.

[@PointShiftDrive]

There are plenty of other Caddies that do what you are describing. The Blackwing series is about performance.

[@tj8994]

yeah, thats called tour mode.

[@scottandrews4822]

Cadillac has changed. They're now targeting BMW, Mercedes, and Audi performance models and are giving the Germans notice with the Blackwibg series.

[@aesir0784]

The 10 speed? I dunno - I truly love it - I will drag race it. Because, well, yes.

[@PointShiftDrive]

No reason you can’t! Enjoy it. Amazing car for sure

[@scottandrews4822]

For drag racing or 0-60, the auto is the better choice. No one can shift as fast as it can. Plus, thee are more steps between the gears, since it is a 10 speed auto vs a 6 speed manual.