2023 Cadillac CT4 V Blackwing vs Toyota GR Supra vs Nissan Z, RWD Battle! Drag and Roll Race.

[@SamCarLegion]

Sorry guys missed this one: Nissan Z CW - 3507 lbs

[@Jr_5646]

Dude in the Z can shift

[@purito84]

I thought the same thing, really well done

[@garyiglesias]

yup i noticed it too . can barely tell when he shifted and the other dude you can see it clearly when he does .

[@misaelc376]

Fr the sam guy cant drive to save his life 😂

[@shaneducholke364]

The Z had the no lift shift so it is just moving thr stick as fast as you The Z has a no lift shift so that saves a ton of time. Not saying he isn't good, just had an advantage, just like shifting the gates with the car off in neutral, you can be super quick and smooth

[@mufasalord]

@@shaneducholke364 unless I’m mistaken the black wing also has no lift shift from the factory. I’d definitely say the driver in the Z was just good at rowing the gears

[@SlateBlue_VQ]

The difference in the roll race between the Z and V was a driver mod. Someone who knows how to shift vs someone who doesn’t. He said “that’s not possible. I think he jumped a little bit” . That’s called knowing how to drive 😂

[@SlateBlue_VQ]

Also the black wing is gm’s top of the line v. wait for the nismo Z

[@vigorosoPIMPJr]

They should get the automatic.

[@sinappanis]

Regardless it shows just how much american car's are overrated whereas most of the rest of the world either accurately rates them or underrates them. Hence why the BMW, I mean Supra, is so quick.

[@keanuphillip7725]

That’s what I’m saying, and the black wing was ahead of the z both times.

[@joeblack7262]

@@sinappanis damn y’all love having our nuts in y’all mouths. Overrated who even rated that high. Y’all be making stuff up as y’all go. So much hate and envy til want us to do some bs

[@godzilla7391]

Dude in Z rocking back and forth helped push his car for the win. 😅

[@johnnycage5513]

head movement gives you 20 horsepower didn't u know?

[@Illicit_Therapy]

@@johnnycage5513 😭😭😭

[@greg1288]

Dude in the Z was on point with every shift…Sam was just a little slower Supra’s gearbox is just a little better than the other two👍👌

[@TampaDE5]

The gear box is not better, the driver is. The supra is lighter however.

[@Spiritcr1jsher]

The gear box is actually worse , driver mod in the Z

[@Splentaur]

@@TampaDE5 According to pretty much every Supra vs Z comparison on YT, it is.

[@EzComEzG0]

Not even close..You can check that buy watching other vs. video's with decent drivers

[@kevinshorr1226]

I have the 2023 ct4-v blackwing the gearbox is amazing plus you can no lift shift I don’t think you can in the other 2… like they said it came down to the drivers is all.

[@godzilla7391]

I feel like whatever car Sam is in thats the car that will lose. 😆 😅

[@Striker50_]

Especially if it's a manual it's painful to watch

[@xxthehuskycaboosexx]

Supra is gonna win, calling it now

[@chrism869]

it did, but i would take the ct4 blackwing, better car overall

[@peterbennett4124]

​@chrism869 Better car to be in the shop constantly lol

[@2012WrxSti]

had mine for 35k miles, never seen any shops

[@peterbennett4124]

@2012WrxSti 35,000 miles that's barely broken in usually problems start at 70-80k miles.

[@peterbennett4124]

@2012WrxSti Bet you the first thing to go will be the Tranny. Don't we wish all of them will go.

[@stephanemallet169]

I'll take the cadillac, thank you!

[@Luckimee]

@@stephanemallet169 same

[@BigDave855]

i have one, with a 10 speed, the result is opposite for me. always out front by a few cars.

[@THE_A.RAVEN1]

⁠@@BigDave855 same lol, I have hurt some feelings in my 4BW

[@dougmaverick3287]

​@@BigDave855 Unfortunately you got the wrong transmission mate. The 6 speed manual is the way to go for the best driving experience.

[@BigDave855]

@@dougmaverick3287 I agree, but my automatic 10 speed is faster, and the result is opposite for me.

[@ATSVRuss]

Blackwing is faster than both cars in every aspect, goes to show how much a driver mod is needed..

[@Striker50_]

For real

[@nickandrew05]

U sir are 1000% right . I raced a Supra last night in my 4bw and even tho i beat him it was only about a cars length. I also have a JB4 tuner in mine

[@John.Christopher]

yet sam calls his fans stupid for suggesting such

[@Luckimee]

Really? Wow. I'm learning so much about this car. I was so stuck on the little SUV but this is next level

[@Unxpekted]

that Z is so sexy. Tune and bolt ons and it’s burning everything

[@johnnyx9659]

Z won something? Say it ain't so. 🙂 I'm actually happy to see a win finally.

[@germanengineering204]

I had high hopes for the Z when it came out, but it loses constantly, and also doesn't get the best reviews when compared to the Supra!

[@MLProductions.1]

​@@germanengineering204all it needs is a tire mod

[@shad3128]

​@Hellcat818 the tires kill it, otherwise still a great car. Without the sports package the open diff sucks too

[@roboticvenom1935]

​@@shad3128so.. it's shite? With the sport package the price becomes the same as the supra.. where the supra is the faster better driving car.. ESPECIALLY on the track lol. Way better engine in the supra too

[@roboticvenom1935]

​@@MLProductions.1no it doesn't.. the supra is just better which renders the Z pointless

[@kirks06G35]

Thanks for the video, I have an electric blue CT4 V BW everyone is surprised it's a 6 speed manual and I love it I can drive with my family and it has a good size trunk it's a great mix of luxery and performance.

[@SamCarLegion]

Good choice!

[@Arun999]

The Supra and the Z are sexy vehicles. Just wish they could be made with a targa top.

[@roboticvenom1935]

Targa top makes it ugly and adds mega weight

[@Arun999]

@@roboticvenom1935 targas are not ugly at all what targas you know are ugly? the only one i think of that is modern is the Lambo Murci with its toupee looking top

[@Tender_vigilante]

That shit is ugly nah

[@scottyd0530]

Every time I see a MkV Supra race, I love it even more. Those things are absurdly quick.

[@SlickSniper3]

They're fantastic on the circuit, the supra rules. I like all 3 Cars for sure. The caddy is such a good sedan.

[@SchafdoggGTO]

They are definitely nice BMWs for sure.

[@scottyd0530]

@@SchafdoggGTO How original. I definitely haven't heard that one before.

[@retrocompaq5212]

@@scottyd0530 toyota builds garbage and they had to pay someone else to make a decent car, still way too slow for a flagship sports car, you gotta face the thruth

[@scottyd0530]

@@retrocompaq5212 Here's your truth. Do your research before you blatantly make an ass of yourself on the internet. If you hate the car, that's fine. No one is gonna care, but you're allowed your opinion. Face the truth.

[@c.rodriguez7976]

The more I see the Supra in action, the more I like it.

[@07wrxtr1]

I just can’t get over it’s use of ovals on the front - They should have done some more sharp angles instead.. wonder if any aftermarket front bumpers are out there?

[@behindthebuild8016]

They perform well but the interior sucks

[@MizzouRah78]

​@@behindthebuild8016How so?

[@behindthebuild8016]

Design, quality, space plus u can’t see out your door windows you just see head liner

[@MizzouRah78]

@behindthebuild8016 Be specific. Also, the height of the window has nothing to do with "the interior," and it would dramatically change the look.

[@anthonyb2426]

Not that it would have drastically changed the outcomes, but the no lift shift makes a distinct sound when activated. If you let off the gas just a little it won't work. The Topher does a review, check out the 15:30ish mark of his video to see what I mean Also, from a 30 roll the caddy should be in 1st gear. It can get to 50 in first, supra and Z second is best, top out under 40 in first.

[@roboticvenom1935]

The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH.. The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder.. Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is.

[@anthonyb2426]

@@roboticvenom1935 yeah to me it just highlights that all 3 of these are pretty close and it becomes a driver's race. So start in the suboptimal gear from a roll in the BW and even the Z will take you

[@DizzyMan24]

​@@roboticvenom1935You mean 12.8 at 112 for the manual and 12.3 at 116 for auto, right?

[@chilli1695]

@@roboticvenom1935 Finally someone with a brain in this comment section

[@roboticvenom1935]

@@DizzyMan24 car and driver tested 2023 Z at 12.7 for automatic

[@wackit6756]

It sounds like the Supra driver was shifting too soon, didn’t sound close to redline in each gear. What are your requirements for these races in terms of how high to rev? Is it up to each driver?

[@VaunShiz]

Yea I noticed that to , they need a camera pointed at the gauges in the races

[@retsehcnamdetinu1672]

Exactly, premature shifting all way thru

[@thatr34monster49]

I can’t believe you brought the CT4 BW for another race! I love these videos. Keep em coming 🎉

[@biggygaming]

Too bad he makes the car look bad every time he drives it

[@Boogieman_1989Garbage]

@@biggygamingit is bad 😅😅#Garbage car 🚘

[@chilli1695]

@@Boogieman_1989Garbage Best car in the video actually.

[@UAE111]

B58 will say bye bye 😅😅😅

[@reynaldorivera743]

Sam great manual shootout .Man that Supra is quick with that B58

[@SamCarLegion]

Sure is

[@skip741x3]

getting 3.9 with the manual is crazy fast! even the Z with its auto isnt gonna get much better than the low 4's

[@sircefiro]

Good stuff Sam, you know we love manual days. I don't think the z jumped the first roll and he possibly hesitated a bit on the second to be sure, all 3 cars getting it right look a good match up, love a quick sedan.

[@nickbb1920]

After this and the M3 video, I'm convinced the BW is getting the short end of the stick, and I'll openly say I don't drive manual but I know enough and have read enough between these 2 videos to conclude that the bw driver doesn't get all of that tranny, which makes me question if no lift shift was used or not, seems like a lot of power cuts out in between shifts, after constant feedback, why not switch drivers??? I can totally see the B58 beating the bw in a quarter mile run, but there's no way you can convince me that the Z is faster then the BW from a dig, regardless I'd put big money on the bw in a top end race with out a question, top end and around track is where the BW shines

[@nallis01]

S U P R A FTW!

[@motormusique]

Would be so hard to pick between the Supra and Blackwing...they are both so amazing. Blackwing is a total rarity in this world as a manual sports sedan, whereas the Supra looks so sexy. I want both.

[@SamCarLegion]

I would have a Z and a Blackwing

[@motormusique]

@@SamCarLegion Interesting. I find some reviewers prefer the Supra because it's faster and agile but some like the Z because it feels more analogue

[@SamCarLegion]

@@motormusique i find the zupra too claustrophobic and I can buy an M2 used for the same money with +2 seats

[@shad3128]

​@motormusique the supra is pretty ugly compared to both other cars. Also for the money the m2 is better looking and the performance is right there.

[@GeronimoBiggles]

unless you live on a racetrack i agree with Sam, you can't see a thing out of the stupid supra and having 4 doors is so much more practical. I've been in all 3 cars and own the ct4 for the same reasons. My next choice would've been the Z for the cool retro look and analog feel.

[@Bungle]

I have a Blackwing and they’re faster if you shift around 6,100 RPM instead of taking them up to redline. The car tells you the optimal point to shift with a little green, yellow, red animation in the tachometer if you pay attention to it. I suspect the host of these videos doesn’t know that and that’s why his car always underperforms.

[@roboticvenom1935]

The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH.. The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder.. Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is.

[@dylanantenberg5561]

Agreed😭the Z sucks and the blackwing is better in every way then any of these handling wise the Supra might be decent just because of how light it is but engine in the blackwing has a lot more character I got to drive one and it was a lot of fun guy in blackwing does not know how to shift either and you can see it in the video in between them other people in dif cars know how to

[@vectorcruzusa]

@@roboticvenom1935 you really need to stop copy and pasting your comment. I've seen it at least 4 times already

[@vigorosoPIMPJr]

@@vectorcruzusaeither way he’s still right

[@Reginald_Harrison]

Yeah, it makes peak power at 5,750rpm no need to take it all the way up to 6,500rpm. 6.1k looks like the sweet spot

[@avirgilio71]

M340i is a much better comparison to the BW Caddy IMO

[@thatr34monster49]

Yes auto m340i xdrive vs bw ct4 manual. Do you guys pull these ideas from your posterior? 😂

[@Offensively-normal]

So dam entertaining. 5:30am on a Sunday morning.i got one eye open watching drag races. Still taking BW. These days I'm built a little more for comfort than speed.

[@SamCarLegion]

Right on!

[@brandonpittman5243]

Supra was just waking up at 90mph

[@gucciserg8093]

Supra is a Beauty of a car that’s for damn sure!

[@LearningFast]

If all 3 are stock and all 3 are manual then the Supra should win. If any one of them are automatic and the others are manual then the automatic should win. Should be a really interesting race no matter what.

[@robbypitas620]

Not on paper no, but Toyota and BMW are lying about the amount of power the supra makes to the crank. It makes that to the wheels

[@marklinley815]

B58 again for the win in my book. Hands down. MKV all day for me.

[@avirgilio71]

No argument here

[@francishernandez9064]

blackwing has no lift shift and yet he shifts it like if its a 1950s truck

[@joshuajovancarmonacruz7255]

I was just going to mention the same thing!

[@purito84]

I would love to be able to grab that same colored GR Supra with the stick shift but black interior. Man it looks great

[@roboticvenom1935]

Why would you want a black interior.. that gets more hot.. more claustrophobic feeling and FAR more boring and cheaper looking. Absolutely mindless, you get tired of it too. A red or nice brown interior? Nope

[@racer247]

Manual cars make the driver way more important in the outcome of races. So the outcome could be closer than expected, but on paper the Supra should win pretty easily 🤔

[@hau5muzeek]

manual transmissions also make said cars slower than theyd be if equipped with an auto trans like the ZF8. the biggest gripe people had with the traditional sludhboxes was that it delivered a super delayed response to driver input and could never find the right gear quickly enough. that isnt the case anymore

[@racer247]

@hau5muzeek Facts, but these purest keep the " so much more fun to drive " nonsense up. When just about every exotic car over 200K doesn't even have a manual option besides the GT3.

[@hau5muzeek]

@@racer247 hahahahaha, true as fuck. i just don’t understand why people cant just spec it with what kind of trans theyd prefer (pros/cons to both) and move past it, its like some shitty vibe that they refuse to let die, personally i like to have FUN when im out there and couldnt give a rats ass about a fews clowns and their petty dick measuring contests

[@sharodbell]

That’s because it is more fun. What the hell are you on about? 😒

[@01gtbdaily30]

@@racer247incorrect , most super cars and hyper cars have a manual transmission but it’s no longer a lazy stick and clutch . Now they have instant gear changes with paddles. You can still do all of the things the “save the manuals” guys scream about but now you can keep both hands on the wheel and no lift shift .

[@jonmcclane7433]

Thanks again Sam for the great content. Cheers from Indiana.

[@SamCarLegion]

My pleasure!

[@РусланЯрулин-ж8е]

everything seems to be not bad with the caddy - moderate weight, sufficient working volume, solid declared power and torque. But he doesn’t go, dog, he doesn’t go, even if you crack!

[@halow4]

I think the CT4 did ok considering its hundreds of pounds heavier then both cars but I think between the supra being underrated by at least 40hp and those cars being 2 door cs the caddy a 4door it was just a lil too much for it. A better matchup would be the Stinger GT vs CT4v vs Dodge charger 392

[@brolyvi1211]

All said cars are auto against the ct4. Manual vs manual

[@VaunShiz]

It's the same weight and same power as a base M3 , and I have a feeling it would get gapped by the M3

[@drivescene6747]

@@VaunShizit would absolutely get gapped by an M3, badly

[@roboticvenom1935]

The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH.. The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder.. Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is.

[@roboticvenom1935]

​@@drivescene6747M3 does cost more and has inferior driving dynamics.

[@bigneutron77]

Supra proving everyday that it’s the best affordable sport car out there.

[@SamCarLegion]

70k is a bit of a stretch for affordability but I get your point

[@cosmic_gate476]

​@@SamCarLegion Let's be real we are way poorer than Americans. Supra is a normal car to them.

[@brandonpittman5243]

@@cosmic_gate476no it isn’t I’m American and 70k is too much for me I just don’t see the worth.

[@DezNutzBich]

​​​@@cosmic_gate476let's also be honest, if you're paying 70k usd for a Supra, you're a god damn dumbass (not you but in general). Used low miled supras go for 50k-60k....

[@AnthonyParrilloRI]

​@@cosmic_gate476I'm an American and I'm being real, all these sports car are too expensive nowadays. Also I don't know how it is in canada, but the markups are real brutal down here. Hello from America!

[@Vita_In_Macchina]

Another nice one! Thanks Sam! I'm biased with GM, but like the Supra also. -Vita In Macchina

[@HOVIK750]

Did he leave the Cadillac in rain mode?

[@nickdaplummaman]

Need to see that caddy with a driver that knows how to drive. How does the car have flatfoot shifting and you’re not using it….That Z driver has crazy driver mod

[@jrod6236]

You should be using the no lift shifting feature in the Cadillac.

[@moviehaven8906]

Great drag race as always, a rolling race between the Toyota GR supra and the Nissan Z would have added more flavour.

[@VaunShiz]

Always gotta love how he gets gapped in a short roll race "not far" "not by much" 😂🤦‍♂️ make that race a half mile and see the gap

[@SlateBlue_VQ]

That dude is something irritating. He said “both the Z and Supra have a weight advantage I’m heavier” but fails to note the 100hp advantage 😂

[@Sidewinder5]

​@@SlateBlue_VQ😅😅😅

[@TampaDE5]

​@@SlateBlue_VQcheck the dynos. They're only about 35ish whp difference, oh then make both cars autos ....

[@VaunShiz]

​@@TampaDE5Watch the lighting laps of the Supra vs the Black wing on vir , the manual Supra traps higher on the back straight than the auto Black wing

[@FedeJ2023]

Greetings from Argentina we love your channel ✌️🇦🇷

[@1laimmiss]

Supra the king

[@cajunotaku3256]

That Blackwing is badass.

[@RestoHorses1]

Bro you can't drive. In the roll races you are starting in the wrong gear to high drop down and stop making these cars look bad please

[@mikeyB71188]

My thoughts exactly

[@dougmaverick3287]

Sam if money were no object, which car would you choose as a 4 door sports car with a proper manual transmission. The CT4-V Blackwing or the Integra Type-S and why?

[@SamCarLegion]

The CT4 for me with a child is useless - very small interior. If you are single the BW is the way to go because it’s way more fun and way faster. Type S is an absolute beauty and super fun to drive, inexpensive to maintain and certainly very spacious. As a daily the car is amazing. For the BW you can get the Type S and a Mustang GT / Camaro V8 slightly used, this would be my combo:)

[@dougmaverick3287]

@SamCarLegion Thanks Sam. Since I already own a 2019 Mazda MX-5 Miata RF manual I can skip on getting the second car and pocket the money. I'm not a big fan of high horsepower fwd cars, can't stand the horrible wheel hop you often get on hard acceleration. It's a shame the Integra Type-S isn't offered in awd. So if you don't need the room you said that the CT4-V BlackWing is the more fun, engaging car to drive?

[@SamCarLegion]

BW is a lot of fun and the 6MT Tremec is better than an M3 for me. Down the road when I can have space for more cars 🤣 I will buy a CT4 BW 6mt. Amazing machine.

[@brianlazare7661]

You can’t shift at all. Test the A10 BW.

[@marcusturner5291]

Nice video keep up the good work SAM

[@SamCarLegion]

Thanks!

[@jeffreyxiong205]

Supra wins, z for the best car to buy, blackwing is just there.

[@slash11lipo]

Slower shifting was the 4BW problem.

[@mohalesydneylebea9388]

B58 of the Supra BMW M340i should easily get a W

[@jaimatic23]

Huhhh ? Not even the same B58 lol

[@carguy...]

​@@jaimatic23yes it is

[@jaimatic23]

@@carguy... the b58 in the supra is not in any other bmw vehicle, the B58B30C & B58B3001 are r&d & tuned motors and transmission by gazoo racing team

[@carguy...]

@@jaimatic23 it is almost exactly the same??? Same power and tq......I should know!!

[@pinkipipe]

I haven’t seen yet the race and already know who will 🏆

[@20VGT]

USA : 472 HP you get 378 HP Japan : 400 HP you get 440HP

[@frankcastle1578]

Germany 389 you get 449

[@bobstarr]

Japan you get what they say, mostly, but the germans say what you get for wheel hp.

[@2seep]

@@bobstarrfor Japan you don’t get what they say it’s a bit understated. The Nissan z has 400hp but in reality it has 372whp which equates to 437bhp

[@ph00ny1]

Not even remotely true. Even the automatic CT4-V BW are hitting 420s at the wheel on a dyno. It looks like this needs a proper driver mod to really ring it out considering C&D hit 0-60 in 4 flat in their manual ct4-v BW review

[@aireskylinetm8480]

@@frankcastle1578Koreans: u get 365hp u get 450hp

[@lawrencehayden753]

The Supra makes more hp than what is listed

[@TheBreakfastLover]

Typical BMW

[@jeremycrookshanks8420]

Great to see these cars race caddy for the win

[@cavaseno]

B58!

[@2yoked70]

Supra is king 👑

[@diegomjangos4904]

Sam has to learn to flat foot shift. That’s the reason the Z pulled so hard between shifts. But yeah good races

[@ms8742]

As much as I want to like the CT4 V, American Muscle in general is just slower than it should be based on HP/Torque. Same for Mustang.

[@ATSVRuss]

No, other brands just under rate their cars

[@ricardosimon1975]

At least the nissan is full jdm no bmw engine and parts in it as the supra. What was toyota thinking????

[@ghnalm7819]

GR Supra 👍🏻💪🏻💪🏻🫶🏻

[@backtoshallabal6662]

Sam curious on your opinion but who would win in a Drag and Roll a 2023 Stock GLI or a 2023 Stock 330i?

[@brandonpittman5243]

They better not say anything about the tires on the z . I’m sick of hearing how bad the tires are

[@DezNutzBich]

A-facking-men!!

[@ericcleland817]

The Supra's shifting seems in my opinion to be just a small bit quicker than the Cadillacs. Im not saying it was the driver, but watching the drag races, the cadallic would lose incrimental amounts of distance on the Supra during the shifting, and only while shifting. I would enjoy seeing these vehicles drag race again, but next time with different transmissions. I think that is only fair to compare on that level as well because of how close the vehicles are in both horse power, as well as weight. Yes the Supra does have the advantage in curb weight, but I dont think that a few hundred pounds would decide the winner of the drag races. I enjoyed this video none the less, and look forward to seeing more videos like this.

[@briansimpson5664]

The Supra all day every day... Each Time the guy let up at the end. He was no where near the redline

[@jesuscabral5898]

Dude does not know how to drive. The black wing has rev matching no lift capability

[@elstaywinning5735]

Can you get a audi S6 up here? Would like to how is speed and power matches up against other cars

[@mmahtnart8986]

Race one. A two door verses a four door. Easy to guess who wins. The amount of time and distance you lose controlling the two-way microphone is huge.

[@85CEKR]

Something happened with the z vs the caddy drag race, near the beginning the caddy all of the sudden jumps more than a car length ahead, I'm suprised they didn't redo that race

[@roboticvenom1935]

The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH.. The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder.. Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is.

[@ralphsmallblock4367]

@@roboticvenom1935 Sorry but not a fair comparison especially to a sports car vs a sedan

[@kabco99]

Blackwing stock GM calibration has babysitting. Check Tapout tuning, once the tune is straightened up these things are way quicker..

[@dr_tate]

Great video 🤙🤙

[@mehrdadmehrsam3643]

Very good race tank you🎉 but must try to better change shift with cadi ,lose many power beetween change gear .❤❤

[@deancm9302]

Very close with the Z on the second roll race because you started out half a car length ahead of him.

[@DM72513]

Dude in the Z was giving the Blackwing like half a car length before each roll race.

[@chilli1695]

those were defiantly driver diff. races I'm afraid. No offense to sam.... but the guy cant drive 😅 The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH..

[@ZillaFullBoost]

This is going to be good. Team Z 🤘🏽

[@Justaeuropeanman]

You already know that Z is gonna get dragged

[@davothegreat9990]

Z needs to be modded more than the Supra to win.

[@ZillaFullBoost]

@@Justaeuropeanman good thing it didn’t get dragged 💁🏽‍♂️

[@ZillaFullBoost]

@@davothegreat9990 it’s really a drivers race between the Z and Supra in stock form

[@Justaeuropeanman]

@@ZillaFullBoost never raced the Supra did it 💁🏻‍♂️

[@saved1777]

The caddy is more practical having rear seats nd it has great power impressive 👏

[@masonmisenheimer275]

Ct4 I pick all day it's a luxury sedan the others are 2 door sports cars lighter and meant to race.. Cadillac Impressed me more and it's about the same price and more practical than the others. W Cadillac

[@joshuapark5466]

I don’t get how the ctv4 is losing vs these cars with like 70 more hp? Is it because of weight difference? Can someone explain.

[@nickbb1920]

The B58s are no joke (Supra engine) and they're under rated from their true hp numbers, they actually make over 380 whp, which is more then the advertised 380 crank hp, and at 500 less lbs it should do what it did from the dig, but the V losing to the Z is just living proof that its the driver, and I don't think the V driver was utilizing the no lift shift, which results in the V losing boost and power in between shifts, it's actually quite visually noticeable from the out side of car camera view, I'd be willing to put good money on the V in every race from a 50-60 mph roll, assuming the driver is using no lift shift or better yet, the 10 speed

[@tracewaybos]

This is going to be interesting IF all are manual. Going to be close between CT4 & Supra.

[@cosmic_gate476]

Z turned out to be faster than the blackwing even with those trash bridgestone tires lol

[@mm8436]

I honestly want to see the Z vs Supra on the same tires

[@AlienCreatureThing]

@@mm8436the Supra gaps the Z almost every time

[@cosmic_gate476]

@@mm8436 Watch Savagegeese video he did a comparison with same tires. Supra still wins due to lower weight, better suspension and a bit more torque. Not by a huge amount but a clear win forsure.

[@cosmic_gate476]

@@AlienCreatureThing You can tell who's a teenager when they use the word "gap" unironically 😆

[@jaxz4gto]

Weight to Power CT4V 3851lbs/472 Hp = 8.15 lbs per 1 hp Z 3507 lbs /400 Hp = 8.77 lbs per 1 hp Supra 3343 lbs/ 382 hp = 8.75 lbs per 1hp (BMW > 382 hp) Advantage CT4 weight to power

[@yootoobed]

Great vid - on the roll, the Z killed it - impressive - go Z.

[@nickbb1920]

It would also be real interesting to see the same cars but with the automatic transmissions, seems like that would level the playing field as you'll leave it to the cars to do the talking instead of the drivers

[@mynock250]

Great vid, I think thats the first race Ive ever seen the Z win.

[@mareo187]

Let me guess the Blackwing is gonna be 2nd or possibly be a close 2nd, and the supra is gonna be 1st. The Z however based on reviews and the speed of the car it's possibly gonna be placed in 3rd.

[@VaunShiz]

Z is faster than the blackwing

[@roboticvenom1935]

​@@VaunShizThe CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH.. The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder.. Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is. The Z is not faster then the Blackwing. And that's a fact. It's close though

[@Soravia]

Drag race without using same tire models is useless. At least invest in tires to make the video relevant.

[@SamCarLegion]

Yes because I can just money out of my a** to make that happen. Wtf are you smoking?

[@vuexiong854]

Caddy tried to be luxurious, but failed. Tried to be fast but also failed.

[@roboticvenom1935]

The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH.. The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder.. Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is.

[@lucienpetrus3851]

Now folks again that's a Supra watch and learn nuff said Cape Town South Africa 🌍♥️

[@benlecluyse]

Insane cars !! ❤❤

[@Bimmer_Bill]

The blackwing is barely on the level of an m340i and the b58 is the better platform. The only reason to choose the blackwing is the manual, which frankly is a bmw fail because the powerband of the b58 is much more suited than the s58

[@roboticvenom1935]

The manual in the Blackwing is incredible. Also keep in mind the CT4 V Blackwing has superior driving dynamics to the M3 as it has better road feel and steering(something BMW has struggled with for a decade now). If you take the Blackwing down some canyon roads.. you'll have more fun vs an M3.. just the unfortunate truth about it. In many other scenarios the m3 may be a better place to be though

[@Bimmer_Bill]

@@roboticvenom1935 what a load of bollocks! That’s what everyone resorts to when their car is slower… oh the dynamics, oh the feel, oh the connectivity, oh it’s more fun…all subjective! 🤣 Here’s what’s not subjective. That piece of 💩generic motors granny hauler isn’t in the same zip code performance wise as the G80! Stick with the cheaper price angle and the manual option, it’s really all you got.

[@nickbb1920]

Debatable, the B58 is no joke I'll give it credit there, but as far as a track car goes and top end performance you gotta go with the BW all day, I will say though the m340i is a far better bang for your buck if you're ok with sacrificing exhaust note and track capabilities

[@Bimmer_Bill]

@@nickbb1920 how many times must I say it the m340i is not in the same class it’s a second tier bmw. It’s purpose is aimed more for commute far less for the track. That’s the m3’s job and the fairer comparison which if you compare the gold standard test of track performance the Nurburgring the m3 xDrive is faster and on a drag strip the chicken wing isn’t even in the same zip code. The problem with the Cadillac is not it’s chassis it’s that v6 doesn’t even stack up to the b58 let alone s58 and that’s a fact. Both the b58 and s58 are better engines. So for commuter the m340i is the winner and for the track and strip the m3 comp xDrive is also the winner the Cadillac is for people who want a stick and can’t afford the extra $10k that the m3 comp xDrive cost. But that extra $10k not only buys you more performance it buys you better build quality, technology, and fit/finish.

[@roboticvenom1935]

@@nickbb1920 track means having fun. The ct4 v blackwing is MORE fun to drive. It's a less sterile and more agile experience. Reviewers concur Winner winner chicken dinner A s class 580 is far faster then a Miata both around a track and in a straight line. But is it more fun to drive? Fuck no. Set the priorities

[@cavaseno]

The Supra is such a good car

[@thebigsolarz4014]

Hi Sam I don't know if you'll ever see this comment but if you do can you do the Elantra n vs the trd ?

[@MizzouRah78]

Sam is the worst at estimating how much he loses by. Supra got him by 2 whole cars in the first and was still pulling on him when they crossed the line. "You got me by maybe 1/2 a car". 😂 Also, you had a supra and a Z at the same track and you don't race them? Not cool.

[@thatr34monster49]

Yes because it’s easy for you to see with his 4 camera angle, but he is able to do the same while driving? You don’t drag race much do you? Finish watching your playdoh videos

[@MizzouRah78]

@thatr34monster49 It doesn't take 4 camera angles to know. I've done enough street racing to know that 2 entire car lengths doesn't look like "1/2 a car". If you can't tell the difference, then it's you who doesn't race much.

[@EntaiIIe]

I had a new Z with the 6mt and now have a CT4 BW with the 6mt. the Z is 'easier' to drive fast so the results are not surprising to me. with the BW, you really have to understand the gearing (long, tall gears) and the powerband (if you take it to redline, you're losing power, need to shift around 6k). you can also take advantage of no lift shift to not lose power between shifts. someone brand new to the car is not going to be able to extract it all on the first go like this, you need a little seat time before you understand the car.

[@retrocompaq5212]

tall gears are good for everyday use tho, going over 2k rpm in 6th gear at 60mph is completely stupid and annoying

[@sunburn8640]

Better tires on that end? As in the Z? As in Bridgestone? Over Michellin PS4S? Really? Well, I must know, what Bridgestones does the Z have? In my experience, you’re going to be hard pressed to beat the Michelin PS4S unless you are talking a Cup 2 or street radial. What tire exactly does the Z have?

[@wesleywalls7582]

The CT4-V Blackwing is not a drag strip monster…good thing it excels in absolutely everything else.

[@VaunShiz]

Well the Z and the supra aren't drag cars either

[@wesleywalls7582]

@@VaunShiz just a figure of speech to denote that the powertrain isn’t the strength of the CT4…the B58 in the Supra is certainly a monster regarding output.

[@roboticvenom1935]

The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH.. The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder.. Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is.

[@crxtodd16]

Huh. Interesting. After seeing the results I initially thought that GM must be overrating their HP numbers - but I looked up some dyno sheets on the CT4-V Blackwing and it's pretty consistently putting out more than 400whp. I suppose it's just not able to really put all its power to the ground, thus getting beat by other cars that put out less power...? Thanks for the race!!

[@Theredeemedchild2]

It weighs a good amount more though

[@crxtodd16]

@@Theredeemedchild2 That's a good point.

[@GeronimoBiggles]

yes at least 300 lbs more than the other two.. but i own the ct4 BW and love it it's the best car out of the bunch to live with day to day and good visibility unlike the supra which you can barely see out of.

[@ericinfante1885]

Besides weight, at least with the supra, it's been known to have more power than rated for both 2 port 2020 models and even more for the 6 port models on dynos. About 380s whp for 2020 and 400whp for the 6 ports

[@ericinfante1885]

​@GeronimoBiggles dang bro nonway the supra got poor visibility? Ur killing me man lol. I always love 4 door sports cars, I love the sleeper vibe and practicality of them. My top 3 were always the CTS-V, Chevy ss, and Lexus ISF. Never wanted coupes but only 3 coupes really call my name Imani that's the corvette C7 ZR1, Chevy camaro ZL1, and the supra. I hate coupes other than those. Supra out of them all really is my #1 for money to performance and looks. I wish they make a 4 door version in a lexus suit because I gave up on the isf coming back but also the older isf are insanely pricey

[@latino914]

Two car icons and a malibu 😮

[@roboticvenom1935]

The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH.. The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder.. Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is.