Integra Type S vs Camaro SS 1LE vs CT4-V Blackwing - Head to Head Review!

Before I bought my Integra Type S, I strongly considered the Camaro SS 1LE and CT4-V Blackwing as my dual purpose daily driver and track car. A month later, let's see if I bought the wrong car...
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[@nosenugg3ts626]

LOL you red flagged the CT4-V's decent V6 sound....but did not point out the more lackluster 4 cylinder turbo sound from the Integra......

[@jimmyk7527]

Good point on sound alone the Acura sounds are not good. Im sure its a good car but for the extra money the Cadillac BW is a better buy

[@jeremyjune7002]

Just a little bias 😂

[@nosenugg3ts626]

@@jeremyjune7002 How dare he.....lol that aggressive V6 and the pops on the BlackWing are awesome compared to that Integra Type S.

[@westsideskateshop564]

The Blackwing will absolutely pack that Integra’s lunch any day of the week. How is this even a comparable car lol!?

[@nosenugg3ts626]

@westsideskateshop564 haha for real though 💯.

[@brandonhodnett5420]

So both the Cadi and the 1LE will absolutely merc that Integra in any metric imaginable as the platform and power trains are in vastly superior ball parks but I appreciate you putting this review together. I feel your conclusions are biased and contradict anything well known auto reviews say but I get it, you bought what appeals to you. Thanks for the content.

[@backnu]

Very biased. I have friends like him. They will praise anything Japanese/Asian, but anything else other than exotic, he will crap on. They always say "heavy and large" for domestic. He will find reasons to knock everything Domestic. The American car could be superior in every way and he will still find a reason to knock it. I mean, look at his cars and what he purchases. They all think the same. Bias.

[@Marbind]

Biased how? He says it very clearly. The SS 1LE is a hell of a car. Great value per performance but if you need more space the SS 1LE isn't the right car. Your next choice will be the Integra. Offers excellent performance, especially in the turns for a little more than the Camaro. You must pay more if you still want power similar to the Camaro plus more space.

[@lionary]

@@Marbind Japanese car haters it seems (they are the "biased" ones)

[@kevintran963]

@@backnu I actually think Zygrene is pretty objective. However, you do have a point. I grew up in Orange County California and the JDM dck riding is real. They all assume domestics are just heavy and can't handle no matter how many official laptimes you show them. They'll drool over a clapped out S2k, but see a Zr1 as another basic Vette. The term "JDM kid" exists for a reason.

[@backnu]

@@kevintran963 he's okay. I've seen worse. It's one of those things that he is disconnected from reality. Everything to him needs to weigh about 3000-3200 lbs, but that's not realistic. Not in a car that makes real HP. He's used to these front wheel drive cars barely making 300 HP and less. When it comes to power, the brakes have to be upgraded, the clutches😕, axles, transmission. All of that adds weight. And he'd be quick to point out that Porsche and Ferraris are light weight, but they also use a lot of exotic materials, aluminum, and carbon, which would drastically increase the prices of normal cars like Mustangs to 100k+. And lets be real, line an S2000 or a Civic Type R beside a Mustang GT at a stoplight and tell me how many bus-lengths his beloved Hondas would be left behind. And I know he runs his car and track, but it's a momentum track - made for lighter cars and carrying speed. It's made for light cars. There's only really one curve where it's low speed. Everything else is momentum based. It's a farce if anything. He's a JDM and he will always be biased. There's no way around it.

[@Razboinik88]

This is the most biased and uninformed comparison I've seen. How come youre so obsessed with how "bad" the blackwing sounds but you dont mention the awful vacuum cleaner noise of the integra? You'd have to be insane to say the integras brakes and transmission feel anywhere near as close as the other two.

[@hammiechavez5991]

He didn’t even put it in v mode

[@GeronimoBiggles]

I've always wanted a manual Camaro with better visibility and daily drivable. The CT4 BW was the perfect car for me and i bought it at MSRP no problem. Can't say the same about Honda dealerships as they are the worst to deal with in terms of markups and annoying sales managers. Refuse to pay 60k for a 4 banger integra (which you did not make any comments about the engine noise on that lol). Also I've driven both the SS and the CT4 and CT5 Blackwing versions and I don't see any issues with the noise of the V6 sounds absolutely great to me.

[@sonnyzhao2309]

just one thing, why are you tring to buy acura from honda

[@GeronimoBiggles]

@@sonnyzhao2309 oh yes how foolish of me, I forgot the Acura Integra type S has no markup. Only Honda does markups...Thank you Confucius.

[@kjcl90]

​@GeronimoBiggles it's kinda true tho...here in the DMV there aren't dealerships doing markups...

[@racer247]

​@GeronimoBiggles 2-5K ADM on the ITS plus accessories in most cases. My biggest problem with his review is saying the ITS's interior is better than the CT4's. With the totally fake Carbon Fiber looking dash and really bad front seats. You have to downgrade your steering wheel and pay more to get it heated. Make it make sense. Between Honda and Acura I gave up with the silly games, like starting at 15K ADM so when you get it down to 4K they try to make it up on your trade, Honda. Or charging 8K for 2-3K worth of "accessories " plus 2-5K ADM, Acura. smh

[@GeronimoBiggles]

@@racer247 yeah I really don't think anything is better on the Type S over the CT4 besides being lighter weight and subjectively the appearance which is completely an opinion and not a fact. Literally every other category it gets crushed by the Blackwing for realistically the same price after dealer markups. And that ugly economy car tablet screen on the Acura that sticks up all the way looks so tacky for a luxury car. When people are bringing up Honda reliability and saving maintenance money on $50k plus turbo charged sports cars with premium fuel they really are just reaching for validation. The Cadillac comes with a factory 6 year 70k mile drivetrain warranty on the Blackwing I really don't think it gets much better than that for these types of cars.

[@THATMOFODIRT]

SS 1LE and a beater Camry for a daily together for the price of an ITS

[@levelup3426]

Someone actually has a brain

[@FL50ssp]

@@levelup3426 Unfortunately in rare supply these days. So many sheep herders on utube with lots of biased beliefs. And plenty of sheep waiting to eat up whatever their favorite talking head tells them to. Then pivot and spread it as lore.

[@kirks06G35]

YOU MADE THE WRONG CHOICE AND THIS VIDEO WAS YOU TRYING TO JUSTIFY NOT BUYING THE CT4-V BLACKWING.

[@bradleyjordan9418]

I own a 23 CT4V Blackwing with a manual 6 speed and I can tell you there is no way that integra compares or competes. The integra looks nice but it's not in the same league. The CT4V Blackwing competes with the M2 and even M3 in some aspects.

[@layne4376]

@@bradleyjordan9418 100%. I have an M340 and this Blackwing is priced the same with M3 overall performance. Not to mention on Car and Driver's Lightning Lap the Caddy is 10 seconds quicker....per lap than the Integra.

[@SongwritingLPT2023]

I have a 22 4 blackwing. It’s the best hp sedan in the world. I had a ZR1 and the Blackwing though not as brutish is reminiscent of that kind of feel and personality.

[@PhoHmooAmerica]

Don’t listen to them haters. Great review keep it up

[@1LElife]

exactly, it’s all about preference. when shopping for my 1LE these other two weren’t even on my radar, but that’s my preference: big V8, RWD, M6, track suspension, and all the modern amenities ✅

[@FrankP7]

Ct4 v bw has no lift shift, didn’t look like you took advantage of it

[@joshuawoodruff7280]

That was my thought too, what a waste

[@wheeljack1227]

Camaro SS 1LE is the best one in my opinion. The CT4-V Blackwing is awesome and I want one to park next to my Regal, Camaro, & Sierra. Its just a bit expensive. The Integra is awesome and I love it more than the CTR. The ITS is very nice and compares well with 330i, Giulia, & G70. At $50,000 it strikes me as overpriced, especially when for the same money, I can buy a SS 1LE or used ATS-V and match M3/M4/Giulia QV performance.

[@Anonymint-vj7bt]

More and more expensive to meet noose-tightening emission standards. Not the case for a vehicle model 7 years old. They can not price these performance models to sell like hotcakes because they would have to pay fines to the EPA. Our government is ruining everything. By 2026ish, you will only be able to buy a mass produced ICEV with a lawnmower engine. Of course recent accelerated price inflation in general is a major factor.

[@Marbind]

Used anything can be better 🤷‍♂

[@phoshzl]

My 18 SS 1LE weighs 3568 w/half tank, not sure why a lot of people say 3800, not even close, my old 5th gen SS wasn't even 3800. I daily mine and absolutely love it. Best car I have ever driven. I don't even feel a need to modify it.

[@backnu]

It's because he's bias. My 1le weighed 3696. Some said as low as 3680. But everything American he will add more weight and say it's heavy. The American car would beat it in every metric, but he will say the JDM car is better. There's no logic in hate. He's a reviewer, but he is definitely bias. And I don't know where he can get a Camaro for 35-40k unless it's super used. My 2SS 1le was 52k. That's some more shade he's throwing.

[@SasnarDash]

That’s interesting, where did you take it to get your exact curb weight?

[@phoshzl]

@@SasnarDash Our local time attack group has an annual dyno day that I attend every year and they have proform race scales so you can see each corner's weight along with weight distribution % of your car.

[@1LElife]

I also daily my ‘18 1LE and there aren’t many cars under $100K that can compete

[@Jack-fr9bk]

​@@1LElifers3

[@st4xor]

Holy shit, have you been stalking my search history 🤔🤔🤔 This comparison set is spot-on 👍👍

[@driver_mod_fc1]

Srsly, I was thinking the same thing...

[@robertriccobene3106]

Integras alot slower then both chevys

[@4673962]

He purposely forgot to mention the sound of the 4 banger, yet ragged on the sound of the cts. Look at him bounce all over the place in the Acura. He even said the seats were more comfortable in the other 2. So he's bouncing all over the place in the worst seats of the three. He also had understeer, torque steer and a way bouncy ride in the Acura. I didn't even finish the vid. He was just praising the Acura with all the blatant obvious problems with it. So bias.

[@Marbind]

Bias? You are leaving out the money and space factor pal. I don't know if you saw the review but what I saw was a guy that loves the Camaro and the Blackwing but needs more space without breaking the bank. For that reason, he prefers the Integra. You can't add more space to the camaro. That is fact. The Blackwing cost more. That is another fact. The integra isn't as fast in the straight line but is pretty close in the turns, offers great interior space without breaking the bank. Another fact.

[@4673962]

@@Marbind yes, BIAS!!!

[@BLUPRINT1LE]

Great comparison video! What amazes me is that the SS 1LE is a 7 year old car and it still competes with cars above its weight class. If i had to choose, The SS 1LE fits the dual purpose category due to how well it is for the HP/Handling alone but the Blackwing/ITS just edges it out due to its practicality. The ITS reminds me of a widebody Civic Type R. If i had to choose between all three based on MSRP the ITS would be last because both GM cars are on the alpha platform which makes it hard to beat and offer better HP for value

[@Anonymint-vj7bt]

More and more expensive to meet noose-tightening emission standards. Not the case for a vehicle model 7 years old. They can not price these performance models to sell like hotcakes because they would have to pay fines to the EPA. Our government is ruining everything. By 2026ish, you will only be able to buy a mass produced ICEV with a lawnmower engine. Of course recent accelerated price inflation in general is a major factor.

[@layne4376]

I look at the Caddy as the more practical, luxurious, Camaro SS 1LE.

[@tommyistommy]

6th gen 1le has the same gearing as all the other lt1 powered models (lt1, 1ss, 2ss, 1le). It's the best driving car for the dollar, it's been that way since new. It's sad to see the car suffer the same fate as the 4th gen f body did; it was killed off for slow sales despite being the best driving car in its class and per dollar. It's pretty hilarious, the 4th gen and 6th gen camaro reviews read almost exactly the same. Complaints about visibility, build quality and annoyances in daily driving (small trunk opening on 6th gen, huge doors on 4th gen...poor visibility on both)...but despite that, it's been the performance choice since 2016. Just like the 4th gen was since it debuted until it was killed. I grew up driving Hondas and Toyotas, I really wanted to like the type R and ITS. I had civics, crxs, del sols, s2ks, accord coupes and my personal favorite honda, a 4th gen prelude. I also have had every generation mr2, many supras, fx16s, alltracs....so I'm not against Japanese cars at all. With that being said, I am massively let down by the type R and ITS. For the price, they are nowhere near good enough. You can get a 240i for less...you can get a 1le for less...it's just not a compelling package. 320hp and fwd...what year is it? STIs and Evos were 30k and made 300hp with AWD 20 years ago. If you really love fwd, cobalt SS turbos made the same power and track performance in 2008. I just am not impressed with the performance for the money. The turn in and grip is amazing but it's at the limit of fwd. Imagine if the ITS had sh AWD.... I get it, it's more refined and practical. But again, if I wanted that, I could get a b58 BMW for the same money. Or hell I could buy a used Camaro AND a new civic to daily for the same price. Great comparison though, your videos are awesome to see back to back driving of cars enthusiasts actually compare. The mainstream auto media misses the mark and this is a valid and relevant comparison to true enthusiasts

[@copperkeyracing6167]

Agree with you on all points. Also a diehard Honda fan (owned 9 honda/Acuras myself), and also agree that 20years after the EVO and STi first hit America, Honda is just finally catching up (but still no AWD)... and for how much??? Over twice the amount from the 4th gen RSX Type-S to the new 5th gen Int-S. No thanks. That's ridiculous. I'll just go buy a Cobalt SS, Mazdaspeed3, or Caliber SRT4, which had the same exact formula 10years prior to the CTR. The 1st gen Mazdaspeed3 is extremely reliable to boot. Had mine for 12years and still on stock turbo, stock engine, easy 300whp with just intake and wheels. With over 200k miles, only huge maintenance/repair costs have been AC compressor, clutch, the serpentine belt tensioner, and eats through tires easily being FWD and 300whp. I think $2k in repairs/maintenance in 12years, plus $3k in tires. Tires! Ouch! Expensive car! Lol! That's $250/yr in tires! Edit: I forgot Carbon cleaning has run me $7-8 every 5k miles, so about $300.

[@tommyistommy]

@@copperkeyracing6167 yeah it's sad, I've owned everything and my favorites were always hot Japanese compacts. The ms3 is awesome, besides the torque steer lol. But yes, all those vehicles performed just as well as the modern counterparts and didn't cost nearly as much. I think all the manufacturers know what we want and and like...they just reserve it for the high dollar cars. Take Honda for example, the civic SI has had 200hp since George Bush was in office. They give it the 1.5t because they know you really want at least a 2.0t. And if you're a Honda guy, you might just pay 50k for a car that performs like a 20 yo sport compact with fwd.

[@copperkeyracing6167]

@@tommyistommy Even more pts I agree with. I tell people all the time, on the Civic Si. 2006 Civic Si, 200hp. 2024 Civic Si, 200hp. 2004 Mustang GT 260hp, 2024 Mustang GT 450hp. The RSX-S would compete head to head against the Mustang GT back in day, when 200hp fwd was really no different than 260whp rwd, since launching from a stop had no issues with low power. 600lbs less weight and 60hp less in the RSX-S put the two cars dead even stock or modded. Then the 300hp but heavier Mustang GT came out for 05, no problem, it got 250lbs heavier too, and the mod potential dropped. Stock vs stock, Mustang was faster, but full boltons, still competing with RSX, and the new 8th gen Si... 6 years later, 2011, it was game over, since Honda did not up the hp on the Civic Si, while the Mustang gained 112hp! and just 100lbs! Imports lost to the competition that very year, and continue to, to this very day. 13years later. The Civic Type-R should be at 400hp, and the integra Type-S should be where it's at at 320hp but about $15k less. Speaking of, and I forgot to mention before, the TLX AWD Type-S V6 twin turbo is just $1500 more than the Integra Type-S. Might as well buy the upgrade for just $1500 more. Lastly, did I mention, and I'm sure you know, that Miatas have always been considered slow in a straight line? Well, the current Civic Si is just as slow as the current Miata, both slow... the Miata has just kept up with the times, and got quicker, but the Si has not. Lets hope it's like 2005 all over again, and the civic si at 160hp (200hp today), and then the next year gets bumped to Integra/RSX Type-S power 200hp (320hp today)... and the Civic Type-R gets bumper to 400hp with AWD... but I seriously doubt that will happen. To me, Toyota is winning this game against Honda. 300hp, AWD, and $38k with dealer markup on the GR Corolla. Only chance I'd look back at Honda is if they made the changes I mentioned.

[@tommyistommy]

@@copperkeyracing6167 yeah I've stated a very similar argument many times. Actually a current Miata will SMOKE a Si in a straight line. It's a full second quicker in the 1/4, and it's a Miata! I had a 95 prelude h22a and it was definitely quicker than a 4.6 mustang. Very similar power to a rsx s and 8th gen. I completely agree that the 9th gen was the beginning of the end. Integrated exhaust manifold, strut suspension instead of double wishbones and the worst part- economy VTEC from a CRV instead of intake/exhaust VTEC. The GR Corolla is priced a lot better and it's OK in my eyes. It's not tempting enough to buy but I understand the appeal. The wrx is an even better value but it's a Subaru so it's going to have tons of issues with reliability and build quality. I think manufacturers have thrown in the towel on sport compacts unfortunately. The GR Corolla is cool and all but man compared to the Yaris it's pretty lame. And I hear that rear diff gets hot after a couple canyon runs or laps at the track. That being said, it's the only sport compact id buy!

[@k9gamerz145]

Bro should be comparing ITS to corolla GR, CTR, and elantra N

[@weltonmurray6744]

The engineers at cadillac is definitely on to something I have a Ats-v and it is awesome! The power curve and tq is great and I don't know what you are talking about mine Handel's beautifully! The camaro and the cadillac is on the same Alpha platform

[@AP1GO9K]

Thank you so much for reviewing the 1LE again in your comparison. One of my favorite cars ever doesn't get the love it deserves. I used run with GT350's on track for $25k cheaper lol

[@danielmembrillo6472]

I had a 1LE, now have a GT350. They are just as fast, 1LE is bargain of the century. Voodoo sounds better though ;-) (also less reliable!)

[@jmmch3358]

The only thing that I didn't liked after test driving a Shelby GT350 on the street was that below 4000 RPM there wasn't any power. No torque. Compared to my 5th gen Camaro ZL1, my Corvette C7 Z51, and my 6th gen Camaro SS, their torque is always present.

[@danielmembrillo6472]

@@jmmch3358 You have to ring the Voodoos neck. I love that about it. To get any power gotta let the motor sing. Best part of the car IMO. The 6.2 in my 1LE was great, but lacked on the sound/theater department.

[@jad4ca]

@@danielmembrillo6472 It’s really cool that you’ve owned both of those cars. I’ve always like both of them. And cool to hear that the 1LE can hang with the GT350 fairly well as a discount option. The Voodoo certainly sounds the business.

[@danielmembrillo6472]

@@jad4ca I love the noises it makes. Very unique and the overrun at 7500 RPM sounds pure racecar. But yeah, 1LEs have no problem hanging with them. GT350 will pull on a long straight but thats about it. Such a competent car for the money. pre-covid you could find barely used 1LEs under 40k.

[@MLeeder53]

I really enjoyed this. I love odd but similar comparisons like this. having owed a 1le, fl5 type r, and also hopped for a ct4V BW myself I think id go back to a 1LE in a heartbeat. currently have a mach 1 handling pack and I think the Camaro is just so much bang for the buck! I work at an Acura dealer and the type S is fantastic. I think it looks and feels more special than the fl5 type r.

[@daboxer181]

Ct4 is the best looking and performance car of the bunch

[@j.peanutbutter9084]

You spent the test comparing the BW just to the 1LE in regards to its performance but hardly ever made reference to it vs the ITS. The BW isn't as raw a performance vehicle as the 1LE but it's certainly on another level in comparison to the ITS. You complained about the steering feel of the BW and the engine noise. Both are significantly better than the ITS. I've never heard anyone claim the BW's steering was numb. Short of Porsche, I think Cadillac has the best steering feel right now. And I don't understand the engine noise comment. It's not a snarling V8 but it's very good for a turbo 6. Either way, it's better than the exhaust sound of the ITS. You made a great choice in the ITS. It's a wonderful car. But you shouldn't have to diminish another car to prop yours. It's an odd approach to diminish the BW as a "less focused" sports sedan by comparing it only to the 1LE, and omitting how it feels compared to the ITS. A significant majority of people driving the ITS and the BW back to back are going to enjoy the BW more. Even on canyon drives, and especially at the track. It has a better engine, suspension, steering feel, chassis, sound and brakes. That's not a knock against the ITS. Again, it's a GREAT car. It's just odd you complain about aspects of the BW that are better than the ITS. To each his own. Still enjoyed the comparison.

[@Driven4fun]

The difference you feel in steering feel between the 6gen and the 4BW is probably due to the tires, Supercar3 have a stiffer sidewall, I own a 4BW and when you put some good 200TW rubber its a much more connected experience.

[@saltyfloridaman7163]

I track my CT5-V Blackwing and use Cup 2 tires and I also have a GM performance intake option and it has a 10 speed auto. 4 months ago we took a trip to Willow Springs to meet up with my cousin and his family for a track weekend and my fastest lap was a 1:26.141. I've been a hobby track rat for 10 years now and the car just tickles me every time I get in. Cup 2s are a night and day difference on the track and really improve mechanical grip

[@Driven4fun]

@@saltyfloridaman7163 great minds think alike, Iive owned many BMWs and been hobby tracking for 7 years like you and am astounded at the Blackwing cars, it feels like they were made for ppl like us. I have desposits put at a few dealers for a 5BW, should get an allocation for 2024 or 2025. Can't wait!

[@saltyfloridaman7163]

@Driven4fun I bought mine in Emerald Frost exterior, white interior, carbon seats, carbon fiber pack 1 and 2, carbon ceramic brakes, GM performance intake (+14whp), and the dealer had bronze painted magnesium alloy prototype wheels that were originally planned for the car that reduced 24lbs of unsprung mass, which was canceled due to manufacturing delays. I'm the 2nd owner and the previous owner was close friends with the dealership and got ahold of the wheels by reaching out to GM. I ended up paying $118,200 and it was a steal for the price. Only 1,400 miles on the car

[@Reginald_Harrison]

The Acura here is like bringing a wet noodle to a sword fight.

[@keithmorton9591]

The dealer regional market price adjustments at the acura retailers are absolutely deplorable. The useless and pricey carbon fiber added by dealers to the these vehicles even further increases the vehicle price. Due to the limited availability it is likely mark ups will remain the same. At 60K plus it is poor value. The Camaro and the Cadillac represent better value with great thrills and drivability ,

[@blkwng81]

This guys opinion is biased. He thinks the integra type s is the best. Put them all on a track and lets seperate facts from feelings. He doesnt even know how to use the ptm modes in the cadillac

[@FL50ssp]

@blkwng81 Here you go... and you are correct, very biased and trying to justify his purchase with this click bait comparison. C&D VIR Grand Course results 2023 Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing, 2:54.6

[@tri3pleagent]

1. BW. 2. Camaro . . . . 3. Acura...distant 3rd in this type of comparison.

[@akotr3mor]

There are a lot better actual luxury performance cars at the similar price point that aren't based on a Civic that perform better, and don't have that pesky torque steer

[@rootsmanuva82]

I'm not sure why magazines complain about the CT4-V's "cheap" interior so much. Is it as nice as an Audi S4 or M3? No. But it still looks premium with great ergonomics and thoughtful high-end details. An example of a GREAT drivers car with a dreadful interior is the Toyota GR Corolla. That hideous interior would be enough to keep me from buying one. The CT4-V's interior wouldn't sway me away one bit.

[@OnkyoGrady]

We ended up with a CT4 BW and in large part it was the longitudinal engine "real sports car" feel that made the difference. We need backseat for the gremlins, so the camara/mustang/86 etc.. were ruled out. We were also replacing a GTI, and almost all the options were direct competitors with similar layouts. Pretty much all the current manuals are "hot" versions of C segment passenger cars in other words, and they all feel kind of same-y once you start hopping segments to look at other options. Except for the ct4/5 BW's and the M3/5 that is. There's literally nothing in-between that has a manual and a back seat, and both of us straight up preferred the feel of the Cadillac to the M3. Finding out that it would cost so much less definitely didn't hurt either. I don't hate transverse cars, my family whip is a sportwagen 4-mo manual that I love to death, but even with a great suspension, light rims and summer tires a fwd based car still shows it's "bic disposable lighter" roots when compared to other (more expensive to assemble) engine layouts.

[@k9gamerz145]

Do you still have your BW? How's the back seat for car seats etc? Looking at either the Camaro and the BW!

[@OnkyoGrady]

​@k9gamerz145 I gotta be honest, it's not a great backseat. My wife and I are both over 6'2" though, so definitely a test fit situation. I don't think either of us could sit in front of a rear facing seat and drive this car, but again, that would probably take a true 3 row suv or an exec class sedan for us.

[@k9gamerz145]

@@OnkyoGrady y'all are tall lol. I'm only 6ft. Wife is 5 6 so we might be okay. I need to go check one out in person.

[@OnkyoGrady]

@@k9gamerz145 at least you can probably just check any ct4, though keep in mind you'll be speccing the bucket seats on the bw (only must do aside from manual) which are thinner than the regular ones. Tbh our issue isn't really height, it's legs, so maybe it's actually fine. Wife's inseam is a 38.

[@k9gamerz145]

@@OnkyoGrady all legs no torso? 😂 Just playing. Yeah only things I plan on getting is the bucket seats, painted calipers, and maybe different wheels and obviously the manual!!

[@ramanapixelxl7572]

Having driven other 1les I think the track alignment probably explains the steering differences between the Camaro and the blackwing. This has actually made me consider changing to the track alignment on my blackwing at my first oil change. 😊

[@FATmenDRIVEtrucks]

Recommend track alignment, diff fluid, oil change, and high temp brake fluid at 1000 miles then ready for track use

[@James-wg8mn]

The track alignment makes a big difference. Have you driven the blackwings at the V-academy? Those have track alignment and they definitely feel different from street alignment. I'm sure the tires will wear out differently too.

[@jmmch3358]

Yes in track alignment for only street usage it would completely destroy the front tires, I noticed that on a previous Corvette C7 Z51 that I owned, expensive Michelin tires completely destroyed. Not worth it if you don't track your car.

[@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921]

Driving a car in track alignment on public roads in the Summertime is a BIG MISTAKE for your tires folks.

[@FL50ssp]

@@jmmch3358 I've had the Chevy track alignment on my SS 1LE since it was delivered. And after 12k miles ( ~8k of those on track) I have had zero issues with my tires being "completely destroyed". It sounds like your alignment shop didn't do a thorough job with alignment specs.

[@EluciaDeLuteIma]

The Acura is outclassed and doesn't belong in this comparison.

[@revnation_auto]

I paid $43,400 out the door for my 2024 1SS 6MT. There’s no comparison for the money.

[@germanengineering204]

I have the RS3 on order, so i would say that is another great option in this price range! Really well rounded, and that 5 cylinder sound track!

[@SilverScarletSpider]

Audi RS3 Lexus IS500 BMW M240i X-Drive AWD so many great options at the $50,000+ price range!

[@germanengineering204]

@@SilverScarletSpider Current owner of a M240i xdrive, and yes its a great value!

[@iiroyalty2519]

​@@SilverScarletSpiderhe doesnt want to be associated with bmw fans like you anymore

[@ras22273]

​@@SilverScarletSpider Brand loyalists are so weird 🤨

[@germanengineering204]

@@SilverScarletSpider You seemed to be cool in your first comment, but it's apparent that's not the case! I'm going to keep the bimmer as well buddy!

[@copperkeyracing6167]

You forgot to include the Acura with a similar engine to the blackwing (twin turbo V6), and with AWD, and only $1600 more than the Integra Type-S... and that's the glorious, but not so special either, TLX Type-S. If the Integra Type-S wins this comparison, then the TLX Type-S completely annihilates this comparison... but we all know that TLX Type-S is also outclassed. Try again Acura. You combined the failing TSX with the failing TL, and came out with the TLX. What will you do next? Actually have a winner with combining the TLX with Integra? Will it be the ILX? No. RLX? No. Integralex Type-S? Maybe then, you will have a winner. Stop ruining the winning formulas! You had a great Integra/RSX, you had a great TL, and you had a great TSX. You keep messing it all up!!!

[@jimwillingham8052]

Hilarious. The Acura is not even in the same class as the Blackwing as far as being a driver's car. The Acura does have a nice interior and is better than the Blackwing's base interior.

[@jayczyzyk9707]

Nice reveiw the ct4v will leave the Acura the dust on a wide long highway

[@motormusique]

The CT4-V engine sound gets unfairly judged all the time just because its CT5-V and Camaro V8 brothers exist. For me Integra would be last place - I'm sure it's great on track but I don't think FWD 4 cylinder is ultimately very fun on the street, based on when I drove a Type R.

[@daboxer181]

I'll take the caddy over both

[@Alanvictoryoung]

I love the Camaro but whoa where is the road! I’m not sure I can live with the visibility out the cockpit. I was more interested in the GR Corolla because of snow in winter but you have made me more intrigued with the Honda twins than I ever imagined! Thx

[@joeracer302]

On track you can most likely pretty quickly get used to the limited visibility, everyone is going in the same direction (hopefully lol) and there isn’t a lot of merging going on unless racing wheel to wheel, even then a little rubbin is just racin ;), but on the street driving in traffic the limited sight will always suck. I’ve always wanted to own a Camaro, I’ve had friends with them, always fun and good on track, but I go for a cruise on the street and it’s instant “nope” for me. I have a 911 now, and I love the visibility in the car, but at a lower price for a daily I did look at the GR 86, and the good visibility in that car is a major pro to me. Likewise, the bad visibility in the Supra makes it a nope for me. I’d go with the GR 86 or Corolla any day, great cars to drive on the street.

[@mikemccormick6128]

I think the Type S would do great in the Winter with high sidewall snow tires.The high sidewall is important though for better clearance in snow.

[@Highlander1432]

I have a 6th gen Camaro and the visibility is definitely an issue. I've had it for 6 years and still get stressed out in high traffic situations

[@gabrielflores1149]

I got a ZL1 convertible, perfect visibility.

[@JDSFLA]

Don't ignore the Hyundai Elantra N. It may be the car the fits your needs the best. I don't own one, but reviews have praised its combination of performance and versatility, and it cost less than the GR Corolla for which, I believe, dealers are asking more than list price.

[@blkwng81]

The ct4v blackwing exhaust sounds like a porshe.

[@mikemorrow5315]

Lol, this could be an Integra going against a Ferrari. The type S would be close, NOT.

[@dreagle1fly]

Ss 1LE for 35 to 4o grand???? Where?

[@augustortiz]

500-700 lbs of weight difference is enough to sway me from the Cadillac. For daily usability, the Camaro (although awesome in general) is just discarded because of the visibility and interior. I'd take the Type S in that scenario. For weekend toy use, the Camaro is the winner, no contest.

[@tedwilliams1918]

In the Camaro's favor is cooled seats, heated steering wheel, a great sounding Bose sound system and honestly the visibility thing is completely overblown. It's not as good as the other 2 cars, but I adjusted immediately to it and never feel like I can't see out of the car. It's close to a non-issue at least from my experience. What you're left with is an incredibly fun car. All 3 of these cars are amazing.

[@augustortiz]

@@tedwilliams1918 Can't disagree, they are all amazing. I drove a 6th gen RS (V6) 1LE and I had visibility issues on the rear quarter panels and locating the fenders but the car felt amazing in corners and overall its much better than the s550 stangs in general. If it were me id just go straight for a vette though, maybe a c6.

[@kpatt2006]

The integra type S looks cool, but it's overpriced and the least bang for your buck. Acura should have included all the luxury features you mentioned at the very least if they wanted it at that price point.

[@leonardzaffino3066]

I think you’re crazy bro I drove both cars you can’t compare to Cadillac to that piece of crap

[@ALE5six1]

If price shopping 50k-60k cars, curious why u didnt consider the ZL1 over the SS?

[@derekb5749]

I had a 17 1LE and its still one of my favorite cars. The front end feel of that car is amazing.

[@Sideways_Singh]

Definitely made the wrong choice, fwd vs rwd no comparison

[@pkonyoutube]

Lol, nobody believing you like the Acura better! 😂😂😂

[@g4do]

You worked harder in the Acura than you did in the other 2 cars . Your bias is obvious. The other 2 cars were better .

[@patrickkelly4213]

Integra has objectively worse interior build quality than camaro or cadillac.

[@haredr6511]

I watched this only for the humor and cringy bias, and it did not disappoint. Seriously, comparing a Japanese econobox with lipstick, against 2 cars that were quite literally, bred for the race track? Of course you made a mistake! You just couldn’t afford the CT4 or a newer Camaro. The shocking part is that anyone in their right mind would pay $51k for what’s just a Honda Civic with some trim bits. 😂

[@30hours51]

holds nurburgring record and this guy owns a nsx? so he isnt broke and the integra is probably more track bred than the other two

[@haredr6511]

@@30hours51 how many true race cars are FWD architecture? None? (Mic drop) Japanese econobox with lipstick. 🙂

[@30hours51]

@@haredr6511how many true race cars weigh 3800lb?

[@haredr6511]

@@30hours51 CT4-V BW, CT5-V BW, M3, M4, RS5, Camaro ZL1, Alpha Giulia, etc. All cars designed ground-up for track duty, and all commonly raced. Zero FWD. For anyone that understands even the most basic elements of vehicle dynamics and powertrain function, FWD is nothing more than a way to make a car lighter, cheaper, and more economical, all at the expense of performance and aesthetics.

[@30hours51]

@@haredr6511sure, but civic type R is a developed from the ground up fwd track car that has solid lap records all over the road and is willing to challenge it's awd and rwd competitions... and win. Also, most cars you listed for $10-30k more expensive than a civic type R, at a price level of a M3/M4 I am getting a Cayman S instantly. It's not about what wheel drive, it's about how it makes you feel, Type R is certainly more fun than half the car you listed, but thats just me. Also you should watch old touring car races where there's fwd vs rwd, you talk shit about fwd, u just never seen or driven one properly. Also I am unbiased, I only owned rwd cars

[@psI6]

They're all great cars in their own right. However, with prices of the CT4-VBW getting into the high 40's in the used car market. The ITS isn't even an option anymore.

[@danziger69]

The Acura is way out of its league here. Plus $52K for a 4 cylinder...pass. For a daily, a non-1LE SS would be the way to go. Now if you can afford a CT5-V Blackwing...that's the way to go.

[@danziger69]

Torque steer and no engine sound for the Acura and you have to keep it above 3500rpm? Doesn't even rev as high as the Camaro? I hate to say it as you do good reviews, but you made the wrong choice.

[@backnu]

3696 is what the Camaro 1le weights. You say 3800. A 2024 Nismo Z weighs more. 3704. You seem SO bias for domestic cars. Like almost all of them you say they are heavier than they are. Like if it's not a Civic or Acura, you say the car weighs more than it does. Interesting that you're so bias.

[@Ben-bg2eg]

2017 Camaro SS 1LE weighs 3747 lbs

[@taurussho86]

Why on good earth are you comparing that Integra to the others? You are not cross shipping with that and those two.

[@Boomsz123]

If $ were no object I’m picking the Cadillac… if it were my choice based on all perimeters not sure how you can pick against the Camaro. Last gen Camaros are almost perfect cars

[@mr.t0fu]

Just an FYI, the Camaro is not on a Eagle Supersport, or whatever you called it. It's on the supercar 3, which is up there in the super 200 tw category. The Cadillac was on the PS4S, that's going to make a big difference in steering feel, handling, grip, etc.

[@optronix]

That explains a lot.

[@ChristianC-gy1ym]

He said eagle f1 supersport, but I'm sure he meant supercar. which is the same tire as you mentioned and he just misspoke

[@mr.t0fu]

@@ChristianC-gy1ym ok ... The point is the PS4S and SC3 are in completely different categories of tires, which, as I said, will make a big difference in steering, handling, etc. There's also an eagle supersport tire which is more comparable to the PS4S, so I'm not sure he just "misspoke"

[@ChristianC-gy1ym]

@mr.t0fu oh I am sure he did. also to your point I'm not saying that's wrong. but when people review cars they review them as equipped from the factory. you don't see Carwow going out there to put the same tires on all cars before racing them? Or C&D do the same before comparing laptimes. We just have to take it with a grain of salt and compensate the difference in the mind's eye. I just see little value in pointing out the differences in tires they come with even if you're right.

[@mr.t0fu]

@@ChristianC-gy1ym lol ok, I'm glad you are sure about what he meant. There is a point to pointing it out as some replied "that explains a lot". If someone is going to judge the handling and feeling of the cars and not point out a huge difference in tires, which is the only thing connecting the car to the road, that's a big miss in my opinion. Also have seen plenty of reviewers judge cars based on the same tire. i.e. Chris Harris. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

[@FL50ssp]

Yes, you did.

[@layne4376]

Type Slooooowwwww

[@pan4632]

the GOAT of comparisons man, keep it up! I could sense the weight difference between the ITS and the others through the video, it appeared to dive into corners so effortlessly. but the GMs still punch above their class for sure.

[@benbrown5913]

The ITS lost me as soon as you had torque steer.

[@copperkeyracing6167]

I bought my RSX-S brand new over 22years ago, and still have it. The dealership experience was absolutely the worst I have EVER experienced. I almost walked away because of it, but I had been waiting for the 4th gen for about 5 years, so I went ahead. I will never go back, though. The post sale dealership experience was 10 times worse. What I know now, I would never do it again. Regardless, the problem with the integras from before and the integra now, is that the price of the top performance model (GSR or Type-S), was just 15% more than the base model, and compared to the Type-R they sacrificed handling, braking, exterior body enhacements, and extreme hp/torque (8% less power) with the tradeoff of a better interior, more comfortable ride, electronics, and a mandatory sunroof. The car was then 20% cheaper than Type-R, and you could always modify it up to the Type-R level of performance with Type-R parts. Today, it's backward. It's higher or equal performance than the Type-R, has more hp&torque, it's mandatory NO sunroof, costs 61% more than the base model, and costs 14% more than the Type-R. WAAAIIITTTT!!!! WHHAAATTTT!!! This is insane! The Type-R was already pushing the envelope for how much an FWD 4cyl performance car should cost, and now this pushed it higher!!! The Int-S is more than twice the cost of the 4th gen Type-S ($23,170new vs $50,800new). I have owned a total of 6 RSX-S (red, white, blue, silver, and 2 other reds), the original I bought I still own, and I have a turbo'ed one I still own also. I will never buy an Integra Type-S as it's too expensive for what you get, and I also believe the Type-R is too expensive for what you get (used mazdaspeed3s have the same exact recipe, 10years older, and go for 1/4th the price). At that price, it better be RWD, or AWD. GR Corolla has my vote, and it's $17k cheaper with AWD. I could buy a new GR Corolla and two used good condition RSX-Ss for the price of an Int-S.

[@crunchtimeeats347]

I don’t know how many would include the Camaro in this mix. It’s a coupe. People shopping for performance 4 door cars have some very specific needs, including family hauling. 4 seat and 4 door is a must. Camaro goes up against the likes of Supra.

[@Dolby109]

The CT4-V blackwing and Camaro should be pretty comparable. While they have different engines the power is similar enough and the chassis is the same, suspension similar. I do with the 4VB had the LT1 engine or LT2 instead of the TT V6. While the V6 tunes better the LT1/2 sounds better and would just make the car be more fun. While the ITS handles well, I think these have in most ways, and both will accelerate much better.

[@jh9363]

lmmfao Type S interior is a joke compared to the Blackwing pleather vs leather

[@copperkeyracing6167]

Sounds like you're trying to say that the Camaro is the better car, but you already bought the Int-S so you are just going to say you got what you paid for and the Camaro is a bargain, vs you got ripped off and the Camaro you get what you paid for. Fact is, there are better cars for the money, used or new. Especially in the used market. You aren't getting anything more special by buying new.

[@daboxer181]

Ct4 is the best car of that bunch by far. Best on track , best daily . Best looking imo

[@robertvandeveer1846]

It looks like you were bouncing around a lot more in the ITS compared to the other 2 GM products. Is that the weight difference or the Magna ride? I’ve seen the same pogoing in CTR videos though.

[@blackwng]

idk my shit feels boosty as hell when I start to roll through the gears, not laggy but boosty tho

[@dr_tate]

You look like your bouncing around more in the integra.

[@gabrielflores1149]

I have a ZL1, this should be interesting! It’s a convertible 6-speed, will put on a rollbar to take it to the track. 650hp is too much for the street.

[@Highlander1432]

I have a 16 SS with more power than a ZL1 Sway bars and good tires make a world of difference!

[@germanengineering204]

Loved seeing this very interesting comparison! You're doing some great reviews that helps with car purchasing decisions!👍

[@JDSFLA]

I very much appreciate this review because I currently own a 2017 Chevrolet SS (with the manual trans) and I am considering the Type S and the CT4-V Blackwing. My SS would certainly fit the needs of someone needing more practicality than the Camaro, and have much the same sound and handling characteristics of the Camaro, as the engine/trans/suspension are the same (the SS 6.2 is slightly detuned with 415 hp.). I love my SS, but at some point I will need a replacement and drivers cars with manuals are disappearing. The Blackwing can be difficult to find at list price - at least last year all the dealers I spoke to wanted more. So I have been thinking more favorably of the Type S and it ticks all my boxes except I know I would really miss that V8 sound for which there is NO substitute.

[@BadBackOz]

Don't do it. I passed on a brand new 2016 SS when they had the 20-25 percent cash back sale and still regret it. They are sought after and fairly simple so should be reliable for a long time. I think they will always command a premium.

[@danziger69]

Keep the SS. Totally upgradable and has probably already bottomed out on depreciation.

[@JDSFLA]

I pretty much have come to the same conclusion. Only thing that would change my mind is if I make a financial killing somehow that would justify getting the Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing. @@danziger69

[@georgejin1764]

Amazing! I’ve been cross shopping these cars too! I currently have a 2016 VW GTI MT. I’ve never seen another review have the same exact taste as me!! Bravo 🎉

[@jmmch3358]

In 2016 Motor trend compared BMW M4 VS the Camaro SS, and the performance winner was the 6th gen Camaro. They commented that the V8 on the Camaro was way better than the V6 Biturbo of the Cadillac ATS-V. Also Road and Track compared a '19 BMW M2 Competition VS a Camaro SS1LE, and the winner was the Camaro.

[@tomslawsky4111]

Not sure about that, as my ATS V picked up ~8.5 mph trap speed in the quarter with a tune only, or about 100 HP. Honestly I would give that up for a factory LT1, LT2 though.

[@layne4376]

Uhm, the Blackwing is vastly superior to the ATS-V from 2016.

[@tomslawsky4111]

@@layne4376 It's the same motor. And the single biggest BW improvement is the new PS4's. But the Blackwing is also 100 pounds heavier than the ATSV, making the BW actually ~1-2 MPH slower than the V in the quarter mile.

[@layne4376]

@@tomslawsky4111 The Blackwing destoys the ATSV on Car and Driver's Lightning Lap due to the superior suspension tuning, braking, steering, etc. 1-2 mph in the quarter mile and 5+ seconds quicker per lap. Which means in a 5 lap race, the ATSV would be an enternity behind. Who gives a shit about 1 mph in the quarter when the BW outperforms everywhere else. Which is what I said. By the way, I raced an ATSV the other day and destroyed it in my M340 (stock).

[@tomslawsky4111]

@@layne4376 90% of the improvement is due to better tires. Period. Hard stop. And you don’t care about quarter-mile trap speed yet you had to brag about beating another car in a drag race driving your car in a trim that actually doesn’t exist. Funny guy.

[@babayegajaeger7082]

A 6.2 is not a small block.

[@teamap78]

I want a CT5 black wing but then I woke up 😢

[@jev2867]

I think it is important when talking about the price to include the mark-ups and what exactly you paid. MSRP should no longer be the end all when talking about pricing. At $62k? for the type-S, the Blackwing is a much better proposition at $65k. Unless of course GM dealerships are marking those up as well. Honda and Toyota had been atrocious at Mark-ups across their model line-up. Much more so with something like the ITS and Type-R.

[@chrisewry4225]

GM markups are not a thing on these cars. I have seen plenty of them at MSRP. And with these not moving, just like the ATSV, they end up going for under MSRP after a year or so.

[@FL50ssp]

@@chrisewry4225 Sadly.

[@nickcivic21]

I own a tlx type S and i love Acura but WTH!! You can compare those

[@copperkeyracing6167]

Exactly. The TLX Type-S is only $1600 more than the Integra Type-S (when you include markups). That makes absolutely no sense. Might as well pay a bit more for the better car with AWD and a twin turbo v6.

[@Linknelson]

Love that 1LE, but good luck finding a 1LE under 40k with under 15k miles or hard use

[@tedwilliams1918]

True, I just picked up a 2021 2SS 1LE with 2,300 miles for $49K. It's such a fun car.

[@iiroyalty2519]

Bought my 2019 2ss 1le in late march with 15k for 39k

[@al151]

@@iiroyalty25192019 is a different story because of the black front bumper.

[@iiroyalty2519]

@@al151 it's not that bad plus if you can always update it

[@pompano_jedi172]

Ct4v bw> ss1le> type s

[@jdub6515]

Granted this review was a year ago, but how is a $53k sports car only has 320hp, 310 tq, FWD, >5 sec to 60, and is considered better than a BW or 1LE. My '16 Focus RS has more power, AWD, and still worth the MSRP I paid for it in '16 ~$35k. Probably a lot more fun too. I wouldn't (personally) go for the Integra. Both the BW and 1LE are great cars depending on the type of driver. If I had to choose, I would choose a BW over the 1LE just because I prefer having a reasonable backseat and good visibility (through the windows). I live near Dallas, TX now and you have to be extremely aware of the other drivers here. They are terrible...and I'm from Chicago! Looking at getting a BW in the near future before they are gone forever.

[@pjbiggleswerth8903]

Uhhhhhh interesting comparison i guess?

[@karomatjohn254]

About the steering on ct4 you can change it on the settings cause I noticed you put the steering on low

[@davec3568]

The Camaro is just a tiny bit under 3700 lbs. CT4V is 200 more and CT5V is 500 lbs more. SS 1LE is the car to get, and can be modified w/ heads, cam and sus to keep up with a ZL1 1LE for $20k or so, no supercharger to deal with. I'm fine with stock power and got it for $39.5k brand new, great deal!

[@FL50ssp]

Agree.

[@tomslawsky4111]

The caddy has the same brakes, rear end, mag ride and nearly same suspension as the 1Le. But you can get to 500+ rear wheel horsepower with a tune only.

[@timothybracken1728]

Congrats on the new car man, I'd choose the type s too !

[@joeracer302]

If resale and reliability matter at all to you, then the Integra is the best choice. If cheap trackable performance is the only goal, cost of consumables and unscheduled repairs matter not, then the Camaro is the best choice. I suppose if you want a manual RWD sedan the choices are few and far between and the Cadillac is probably going to be a cheap pickup on the slightly used market, just go ahead and lube up to prepare for repair costs.

[@ramanapixelxl7572]

I honestly think in terms of resale value the Camaro might have the integra beat. Look at old Chevrolet ss for example. Once discontinued gm cars shoot up in value.

[@germanengineering204]

I would think the Acura, caddy or Camaro would hold their value all equally well!

[@robertf9521]

My Elantra puts 40g smile everyday ! Yes I caved and paid mark up and even then I pushed the budget to the limit so whatever you decide on affordability reigns king. aftermarket’s mods are out there with 400 hp capabilities

[@tedwilliams1918]

I'm not going to shit on any of these cars, they're all amazing. But the Camaro is built like a tank from my experience and from what i've read. I think it will hold up for a long long time. The jury is out on high boost 4 or 6 cylinder motors. Maybe the Acura can endure track duty year after year with no issues, but if I had to bet my own money; the V8 will outlive the other 2.

[@hongkong322]

that duckw as going for a ride

[@tomslawsky4111]

Man, the Cadillac can't get a fair review anywhere LOL. So, you canyon carve compare the Blackwing with stock alignment vs. the Camaro with a track alignment and conclude that the Blackwing is 80-85% of the Camaro's performance. In other words, you stack the deck for the Camaro, then conclude that the Camaro is marginally better. How about this: in stock form, the Blackwing tied the Camaro 1Le in the lightning lap, they both hit 0-60 around the same time and both are low to mid 12's at ~117 mph in the quarter. The fact that the Caddy is ~250# heavier indicates that its 472 HP is mildly underrated, too. The difference in "Stock form" between the cars is negligible, even though the Caddy has 275's out back. It's hard to find an honest, unbiased car review. The magazines are even worse. BTW, I love both cars, owned a Z28, drove a 1Le and now own an ATSV.

[@billshoe22191]

Definitely made the wrong choice. $60k (for non-KZbin/influencer buyers) for a fwd Civic is nuts

[@gw4886]

His money, his choice, its a part of being an adult, buy what YOU want, not what others want. Not everyone wants fastest car for the money, as an adult you have consider other priorities.

[@jev2867]

​@@gw4886He is giving his opinion about the premise of the video. Did he make the right choice? And I agree, he made the wrong choice. For what he paid ($62k,) he could've gotten the Black wing for a bit more. Not only is the Blackwing faster, it is also a capable track car. Also, knowing Zygrene, he will be doing handling mods anyways.

[@GeronimoBiggles]

@@jev2867 i got my blackwing built for exactly 62k. You dont really need any extra options from the base model IMO.. Most of them are cosmetic/gimmicky upgrades.

[@SuperBooboo02]

have a blackwing, wouldnt even have considered a front drive lackluster Acura...

[@gn6311]

Def the Cadillac

[@daboxer181]

The ct4 is the most track capable car of the bunch. You had clear bias towards the car you bought..... Sure the integra suspension is better then the magnitude and sure the sound is better too...yeah freakin right! You're off your rocker. Ct4bw is the best car of the 3 .

[@geraldgates6059]

Ok I'm definitely " Pro-Merica " 🇺🇸 Strong ✌🏽 💪🏽 Muscle Performance Sports Cars , case and point☝🏽 !!! Over 98% of all JDM Sports-Cars across the 🌎 Planet Earth, because JDM Cars are fun too drive , which I do own one of , it's a 2008 Subaru Forester XT Sports Turbo Edition with the STi front splitter and everything included 😅, make no mistakes about it right here people ☝🏽! , I've also owned 3-three brand-new Camaro's all V8 Motors " RS- Z28 & earlier version 1le / Manuel Transmission and Automatics☝🏽, I've also owned a Cadillac as well other cars such as a WS6 Manuel Transmission Firebird Formula 💪🏽 😊fun cars, a Buick Reagal , a Mimi-Van 😂for my 3- Daughters Safety 💖 love my kids , a Ford Ranger P/U and I can honestly say that my Subie stays broken down all of the times even right now !!! 😠 😡 weak-ass JDM Cars thumbs down 👎🏽, People enjoy your lives keep driving always everywhere 😀, I'm currently Shopping around this week for another Brand New 2024 Chevrolet Camaro 6-Speed Manuel w/Panther Badges on it !!! 👌🏽 💪🏽, to sum it up here 🗣 the Cadillac Blackwing is head & Shoulders above the other two cars in this silly ass comparison video , this Acura dude is just blowing 🚭 smoke about his own weak-ass JDM Sports-Cars ✌🏽 😂 Remember ☝🏽 I own a very unique JDM Sports-Car as well 😢!! Buy a 2024 Chevrolet Camaro Panther Badges on it enjoy your lives

[@k9gamerz145]

I dont like the dash in the camaro. So bulky. Other than that i really like that car. Im literally shopping between the camaro and the ct4v BW. But the camaro is more affordable! I like the v8 and the Ttv6 even though camaro sounds better. Oh decisions...

[@markcobero943]

I had a RSX Type S back in the day. I can’t justify paying $50k for a turbo 4 banger making only 300. IMO it’s a great car but not for that price.

[@haroldjones12]

very biased towards the ct4v lol, i’m only guessing he did that cs the integra is his personal car? seemed like every corner he had sum false about the ct4v

[@singular9]

IMO, There is no replacement for displacement, and there is no alternative to RWD. I have a K20C...its fine. Mine is tuned up to 25 PSI and 370lbft. But in FWD...its so traction limited and so limiting to drive. Its "shocking" that it puts any power down at all, but still its HALF the power to the wheels compared to the other two, so you are balancing it out. The BRZ/86 is 100hp away from decimating any car on the road, and if rumors are true and its getting the GR Corolla's 1.6 turbo, I don't think there will be anything as fun as that for the foreseeable future.

[@Vosovogalsyncope]

They put a 1.6 in a BRZ and that will be the first car I've ever ordered.

[@zacharypoccia5024]

Instead of the Camaro, try the SS sedan. Overall I’d get the Acura for my girl and I’ll take the cadi

[@grahmdoughty]

I could see myself getting an ITS even though I think it’s $5K too expensive and I dislike the seats. It does check a lot of boxes. Hopefully you can drive a latest-gen RS3 at some point. I have an ‘23 and expected to like it but I’ve been really impressed.

[@xmunitrader]

what u mean you have a 23 what? Im really hoping for a latest gen RS3 similar comparison

[@grahmdoughty]

@@xmunitrader I have a 2023 RS3 but don't have experience driving many of these other cars, so a comparison would be cool

[@germanengineering204]

How long did it take to get yours? I've already been waiting about a year for mine in the US 🇺🇸

[@grahmdoughty]

@@germanengineering204 over a year, also in the US. It's worth the wait

[@germanengineering204]

@@grahmdoughty Thank you for getting back to me! I will continue to wait!👍

[@RICHCREWSPLASHSET]

your so bias jump in this car with less everythng and go woohhooo what about the sound you was just complaining about in the cadillac what about the snappy smh now when you jump in your car you forgot about those you complained about

[@Ryan-cp4rh]

These are always extremely subjective. The chassis on the BW is second to none which is why a lot of track goers would opt for the BW over something like the new G80 M3. He kept comparing the CT4 to the Camaro. Is he not aware of the CT5 BW? I had all 3 of these cars as well as the M3 and the IS500 on my list of cars to buy and ended up going with the CT4 BW. Dude is trying to justify his purchase the whole way 😂

[@k9gamerz145]

Would you still recommend the BW over the Camaro? I'm torn on the two. I know I can snag a Camaro for less but I actually like the turbo 6 and the more BMW vibe of the Caddy over the muscle. Both look fun. 😐

[@FL50ssp]

@@k9gamerz145 You can't go wrong with either of these. SS 1LE is an awesome sports car and really delivers a performance first experience vs CT4 BW. By the way, I own a 2109 SS 1LE and 2019 ATS-V cpe. And yes BW is updated with Alpha II and interior...etc, but general characteristics are very similar. That said, if you want performance and luxury with refinement at a reasonable price the CT4 BW is without peer. Anyone that tells you the interior is crap...etc. Is trying to justify the ~15k to +40k price difference they paid for less overall performance. Sort of like this guy here with his ITS is better than SS 1LE and BW. Sure it is buddy.

[@k9gamerz145]

@@FL50ssp thanks! Yes I'm currently on an allocation list for a yellow ct4v blackwing. Pretty excited. Mine MSRP for 67k. I just got the upgraded seats, steering wheel, and yellow paint. Hopefully they don't try to mark it up when I order it. I prefer the Caddy for the sedan look and luxury. But, the SS 1le is probably the best performance per dollar out there! I cant justify dropping 50k+ on a four banger. Nothing wrong with them but they shouldn't be that expensive.

[@FL50ssp]

@@k9gamerz145 Congrats and you picked the better car... ITS doesn't belong here and is not a BW competitor.

[@Ryan-cp4rh]

@@k9gamerz145Caddy hands down as a daily and a track car. Really want to go faster in a straight line? Get a JB4.