Ogerpon should be an honorable mention since all of her forms are good in single (all three legal forms have good viability) and vgc (usually seen in reg F+G and win world once)
@x_bell1142Ай бұрын
Ogerpon Hearthflame is banned to Ubers and remember, I am excluding any Pokémon in the Uber tier. It absolutely is good in both singles and doubles, but for legendary Pokémon, I only wanted to talk about 2 of them
@benisama1688Ай бұрын
@@x_bell1142 He said all 3 legal forms which include Wellspring (Water), Cornerstone (Rock) and Teal (Grass) All 3 of them have (varying) success in Gen 9 OU, with Wellspring being the best one by far. Iirc, wellspring is also the best in VGC
@x_bell1142Ай бұрын
@@benisama1688 Is it better than Landorus Therian and Raging Bolt though? For legendary and paradox Pokémon, I only wanted to include the two that I felt were the best.
@attilaszanto2275Ай бұрын
Supreme Overlord only checks for currently fainted allies, not times allies fainted, like with Last Respects.
@CharlieTurnipАй бұрын
Well since last respect does not only check for currently ko'd allies, and does stack up with each revived then knocked out ally, your statement crumbles
@KoobyKarasuАй бұрын
Half correct. Supreme Overlord only counts how many Pokemon are currently fainted in the party at the time of switch in. Last Respects counts how many times allies have fainted total in the current battle, and will also count Pokemon that have been revived and fainted again, up to 100 times for a total of 5050 bp if you reach the limit.
@x_bell1142Ай бұрын
Correct, I was totally mixing up those two
@zanyludicoloАй бұрын
Great video! I would also consider Dragapult to be on this list because of its great versatility and use with chien pao before this current format
@Wesker1984Ай бұрын
Magearna in the one VGC format she was allowed in lol. Which brings us to the companion video that features legendaries and mythicals etc, including Ubers (Magearna was OU in gen 7 despite being tested, was banned to Ubers in gen 8). We now have Ubers UU for a reason.
@alessandro1885Ай бұрын
It was not a VGC ruleset, since there was no Championship, It was Just a battlespot doubles format
@BiggestChungus21Ай бұрын
Rest talk and curse? Dondozo’s living in gen 2, despite being introduced in the latter gens
@MasonsWorldOfficialАй бұрын
Remember that one time when Charizard was in Gen 8 OU before Heatran while being in VGC a couple times?
@NethauraАй бұрын
Normal raikou: trash Raikou, but l o n g: OP
@cullenhutchison6528Ай бұрын
Are any Pokémon either good in VGC and bad in Smogon doubles or vice versa? I guess it might depend on the VGC regulation.
@NathanSahadeoАй бұрын
I look at the fire cat well not be saying it’s names has really fallen off .Thank you GOD!🎉
@Orc_20002 ай бұрын
Hey, that's me! I don't even play competitive, yet I still find your videos quite interesting
@shau_20Ай бұрын
Great vid!!🫶🏻
@x_bell1142Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@frozen9152Ай бұрын
Great video as always
@x_bell1142Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@BiggestChungus21Ай бұрын
Gamefreak love the raid battle so much they made a raid boss pokemon. Lol
@zemufinman1639Ай бұрын
2:10 Can smeargle not sketch it? Ive never seen anyone use that and im sure in not the first person to think of it
@x_bell1142Ай бұрын
Smeargle cannot sketch Revival Blessing
@kingdratonix1926Ай бұрын
What about pokemon good in singles and doubles but played completely differently
@vojtech_ledvinka2 ай бұрын
I still think, that raging bolt is better than Landorus-T, but otherwise great video!
@vj6078Ай бұрын
I also agree but, I'm curious to know why lando is decreasing in usage/meta standing the lack of strong ice types (At least in ou) would make me think it would be stronger, but it seems its not true
@QR14_MasahiyaАй бұрын
@@vj6078 in singles it was getting outclassed by great tusk. meanwhile, in doubles people usually prefer the incarnate form, cuz of sandsear storm + sheer force combo
@QR14_MasahiyaАй бұрын
@@vj6078although he is rising because adapting to beat his counter like dozo and tusk with his spa set
@QR14_MasahiyaАй бұрын
@@vj6078i'm sorry what i mean is has to compete with tusk and gliscor
@oscen335Ай бұрын
@@QR14_Masahiyalando-T is about equal viability to tusk rn
@leaffinite2001Ай бұрын
Does raging bolt really use leftovers in doubles? I thought doubles rarely used leftovers at all
@RuralSquirrelJurorАй бұрын
Niceru
@Hoysoy4141Ай бұрын
Alright where's torkoal
@yusheitslv100Ай бұрын
Good in both. Without restricted mons/below ubers, it's the best sun setter and is the cornerstone of sun room (sun trick room)
@Hoysoy4141Ай бұрын
@@yusheitslv100 ik, just saying its missing from here
@nstar6412Ай бұрын
Same for Per
@x_bell1142Ай бұрын
I specifically wanted to focus on Pokémon that are in the OU tier of Smogon which Torkoal is not
@grimmylockedАй бұрын
Weird to not discuss the non-restricted pokemon in Ubers.
@x_bell1142Ай бұрын
I didn't want to discuss them because them being banned to Ubers but not banned in VGC has more to do with the difference in rule sets, rather than them being overwhelmingly powerful, which I did not want to be the focus of this video.
@Just_V5104Ай бұрын
Vgc bans mons based on their status (legendary, mythical, etc) which isn't the definition for actual power. Smoogon is a little more accurate about power scaling
@yusheitslv100Ай бұрын
U mean monsthatgot banned to ubers or have seen high usage in ubers but not limited to being used in ubers?
@hfwiaupi894Ай бұрын
Hatterene?
@x_bell1142Ай бұрын
Hatterene is definitely good too!
@BiggestChungus21Ай бұрын
You mean madam “can never function outside of trick room”.
@shinycharrogerАй бұрын
Sucker punch doesn't always go first any +1 priority can make it fail
@unbearable505Ай бұрын
But sucker punch has +3 priority. Do priority moves just make it fail? That'd be news to me.
@shinycharrogerАй бұрын
@@unbearable505 it doesn't go on showdown and test it yourself
@alessandro1885Ай бұрын
@@unbearable505sucker punch has +1 and therefore fails if any faster mon uses a priority
@sloshy2412Ай бұрын
I feel like dragonite really shouldn't be on this list because dragonite has never been good before gen 9 because it relies a lot on tera normal instead i would say pult since its been a lot better over multiple generations, still great video though!
@LAIDDN24Ай бұрын
agreed
@GravityIsFallingАй бұрын
Thoughts on this: 0:30
@bananaspice1967Ай бұрын
The monke
@x_bell1142Ай бұрын
monke
@GravityIsFallingАй бұрын
11:30 I thought you weren’t going to talk about restricted legendaries?
@bclxprssАй бұрын
Restricted Legendary is a specific category of legendary pokemon consisting of the cover legends of games and dlc (minus Suicune, Urshifu, and Ogrepon plus Eternatus, Zygarde, and Mewtwo). They typically have 670+ base stats and are designed to be much stronger than most pokemon
@jamesrutley1009Ай бұрын
Raging Bolt isn't a legendary pokemon and iirc wasn't ever restricted
@RibombasticАй бұрын
I've seen some people refer to it as a second restricted legendary in reg G before, but that was just a joke. The only restricted paradox Pokemon are Koraidon and Miraidon (which are treated as restricted legendaries in gameplay).
@GravityIsFallingАй бұрын
@@Ribombastic Do you know what else was a joke?
@jordanandjohnathanpollak6536Ай бұрын
136 yoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
@forspookable1812Ай бұрын
Wait so does Tatsugiri also faint when Dondozo does?
@EdrianPagaran-mw6weАй бұрын
I battled against one, but the tatsugiri didn't actually fainst when dondozo dies
@michaelkarim57Ай бұрын
No, unless the Tatsugiri is taking damage from a passive effect like poison/sand, it cannot be hit and will still be on the field after Dondozo faints.
@yusheitslv100Ай бұрын
No.
@user-rn7wf7ry4sАй бұрын
lando
@x_bell1142Ай бұрын
What about it?
@KanderUdonАй бұрын
Nice
@Whirler98Ай бұрын
I personally think Empoleon makes a good addition to this list as well! It's coverage has been useful for a long time, it's very versatile in movesets, and has seen plenty of usage in both Game modes for over a decade!
@tlb31mАй бұрын
Paradox and Ultra beasts aren’t legendary’s with the exception of a few
@meraak120 күн бұрын
"Rillaboom" is not a pokemon, hope this helps
@bootortleАй бұрын
I think singles should have item clause idk why it doesn't have it Almost every official format has had it, back to GSC
@oscen335Ай бұрын
Item clause isn't the problem for singles, and makes hazards a lot better due to ghold blocking removal, and ghold really isn't banworthy ever since DLC1. Limiting teams to 1 boots/lefties just limits defensive options. A booster energy ban would be better than item clause, and even then, most teams really only have 1 booster mon so it doesn't even violate item clause
@leaffinite2001Ай бұрын
Surely there are better arguments than "every official format has it."
@brenoborba5433Ай бұрын
Rillaboom its too strong, it shouldnt have grassy glide and fake out
@michaelkarim57Ай бұрын
It’s very strong, but most meta’s are hostile to mono grass attackers. So it’ll often have to work in spite of bad matchups.
@guilhermeredtfoxАй бұрын
Hey! Nice video! I'm Guilherme, a thumbnail designer, I'd love to chat, do you have any social media where we can connect? Thanks!
@x_bell1142Ай бұрын
I am not really looking for a thumbnail designer at the moment, but if you want to contact me, I have a business email in my user about page
@leaffinite2001Ай бұрын
Does raging bolt really use leftovers in doubles? I thought doubles rarely used leftovers at all
@juliii1801Ай бұрын
who told you that lol But yeah Raging Bolt has used leftovers, but in the last format (Reg G) it was not too good due to the lack of a reliable electric type stab Leftovers Raging runs Calm Mind, Protect, Thunderclap and Dragon Pulse, so it can be easily walled by Fairy types that stall Tclap
@leaffinite2001Ай бұрын
@maximilianohermosilla2544 idk i just assumed ten turn games didnt see enough value from leftovers for them to be worthwhile. I was vaguely aware they were niche but i thought lack of chip and doubling for kills would make them harder to justify
@leaffinite2001Ай бұрын
Does raging bolt really use leftovers in doubles? I thought doubles rarely used leftovers at all
@eesev2017Ай бұрын
leftovers is very common in vgc, just not as common as singles . like my vgc team doesn’t have it anywhere but many do
@EggscellentTreeАй бұрын
Also vgc has item clause which limits you to 1 leftovers per team.