Pokemon Evolution Methods are Weird

[@mattguy1773]

I can’t wait for in gen 10 we need to faint 205 tynamo and then do the Konami code 50 times to evolve something

[@user-AADZ]

But why Tynamo specifically? is it because it kind of sounds like Konami?

[@twobladedswordsandmauls2120]

Honestly, a Pokémon that evolves when you input the Konami Code actually sounds like something The Pokémon Company might do.

[@moonmoon4537]

@@twobladedswordsandmauls2120alternate form porygon?

[@Joe-cd1tr]

Don’t forget you have to complete the Pokédex as well

[@tomforge614]

​@@moonmoon4537To be fair, it's surprising we didn't see the devs play around with Porygon branched evolution more, when you realize it was based off game development (Polygons and the like). Like imagine evolving it into something 8-bit or like an entire RPG party.

[@andrewchapman2039]

Shoutout to Maushold, which doesn't require anything unusual to evolve, but it bypasses the evolution interface entirely. You'll look away for a minute and suddenly your Tandemaus has children.

[@molamola9723]

They would’ve had to change the age ratings if they showed tandemaus’ evolution animation

[@getsouped]

genuinely was so funny to go on a picnic only to find out my two mice procreated in my pocket

[@TheRedSmarty]

​@@molamola9723 The Evolution animation still plays if they were on the field on the end of battle.

[@jcnot9712]

I feel like this is what they were going for with Shedinja too

[@omegaXjammur]

Can't wait evolve my Pokémon through max friendship while holding an enigma berry during a rainstorm on a Friday night with an Arceus on my team that knows ancient power with 1pp left.

[@RuyVuusen]

_Congratulations! Your Magicarp evolved into a Slugcarp!_

[@HunterAnsorge-ok9jk]

Is there something wrong with how I did it?

[@omegaXjammur]

@@HunterAnsorge-ok9jk depends, did you turn your console upside down when your Pokémon leveled up?

[@HunterAnsorge-ok9jk]

@@omegaXjammur i even flipped it inside out and now it won’t turn back on

[@omegaXjammur]

@@HunterAnsorge-ok9jk Turning it inside out still counts. Now you have to bring the console to a third-party repair service licensed by The Pokemon Company. The repair service installs a mystery gift code with a held item to give to your pokemon.

[@therethan-family1234]

Fun fact. Even in games where there aren't contests, contest stats still exist in the background. Example: If you catch a feebas in Generation 3 or 4 and give it the necessary beauty stat, you can transfer it to Generation 5 and it still evolves by level up.

[@Turtle-Soup]

Yes! The amount of data that a single Pokémon holds onto even when it won’t be accesible/visible in the game it’s sent to is kinda insane.

[@TheLordofMetroids]

Also if you max out a Pokemon's "sheen," in R/S/E then transfer it all the way up to BD/SP, it won't be able to eat any poffins, somehow that shit is remembered through 6 freaking games (including OR/AS which got rid of sheen)

[@Frank_Erz]

Fun fact: Lickitung can learn Rollout in Emerald via a Tutor. Obviously it can't evolve, but Rollout was not the right choice for Lickitung's evolution.

[@1080ike]

It also learns Rollout via TM in Gen II! Though that's not the most egregious movepool issue for Lickitung: this monster, with lick in the name, couldn't learn the move Lick (a Gen I move) until GSC.

[@soulare]

Lickilicky look so dapper. It's hard to imagine he got to evolve by learning to roll on dirt for multiple times 😂

[@awesomeschwab]

Fun fact: the link cable item was actually introduced all the way back in the original Red Rescue team and Blue Rescue team mystery dungeon games!

[@Vampirewerewolf1]

And if you want to go even farther than that, it was also in Pokémon Pinball!

[@charziz6693]

I fucking love galarian yamask because the lore reason why it evolves there is that you're sacrificing the Yamask's human soul in Stonehenge like a druid so an evil spirit can move in and replace it. The soul has the be weak so it loses to the spirit that's why it has to take damage beforehand.

[@saxor96]

And yet the Azure Flute event was too complicated.

[@munchrai6396]

Wait, that was supposed to be Stonehenge? Talk about an underwhelming depiction.

[@charziz6693]

@@munchrai6396 The real Stonehenge is in Kalos. It's Geosenge, the place the Ultimate Weapon is.

[@ferringsylveon219]

Same here for Basculegion too

[@LegendStormcrow]

​@@munchrai6396Stonehenge in real life is kind of disappointing.

[@cynthiasoolihua2410]

Can't wait to have to lose to the Elite 4 60 times (in a row), then using the Let's Go feature have my Pokemon drop off a minimum 20 ft drop, then clip into a wall (intentional design) in order to get a 50% chance to evolve it into its 2nd, not final, stage

[@miimiiandco]

Inkay evolving through being held upside down is such a funny gimmick. My main complaint is that it only works from level 30. onwards.

[@StarLightGem]

i think a level 2 Malamar would be a bit wierd 😅

[@Turtle-Soup]

Yeah I really like it, and malamar’s design being the elements of inkay’s design but upside down at least tries to give a level of in game hinting on how to evolve, and is a nice attempt at making it not needing a search up online.

[@SkulkOfRoses]

I hate it, it worked fine on the 3DS but with the switch you *need* to be in handheld mode with the joycons on which, for anyone who has drift that makes the damn things unusable, is a pain in the ass

[@WhiteRaven696]

The only evolution method I truly hate is trade evolutions. I don’t have friends. 😤

[@twobladedswordsandmauls2120]

Clearly, Nintendo hates them too. They haven't introduced a new one in over a decade, and the only one in SV on release was Gengar (which was obtainable through an in-game trade and tera raids).

[@WhiteRaven696]

@@twobladedswordsandmauls2120 They just need to re-introduce the Link Cable from Legends Arceus. Use it on trade evolutions like a stone, and they can even use it in tandem with evolution items like the Reaper Cloth and Protector and stuff. The only one I can’t think of a workaround for are Shelmet and Karrablast.

[@lesserknown5138]

​@twobladedswordsandmauls2120 Technically, Palafin only being available through multiplayer is no different than trade evolution.

[@pn2294]

You can always just let the person keep your Pokémon

[@turntheswitchoff8259]

I had to use the GTS method to trade with myself for my Sun/Ultra Sun Pokedex. It's a pain in the ass, and now with Nintendo online shutting down for the 3DS if I wanna complete anything from Gens 4, 5, and 6 I can't.

[@Fyrbolt200]

You can collect more than 999 gimmighoul coins, you just have to go collect them from an NPC after you've spent them and made space.

[@Turtle-Soup]

I had absolutely no idea about this! Crazy how when you think that you know all that you need to know, there’s still stuff to learn!

[@jeanief.6036]

Yep, he's over in Medali, tucked away in a corner by a couple of food stands.

[@KingTaltia]

I personally love the ones that sound like schoolyard rumors, like Alchremie, because it really draws from the game's roots.

[@pineapplebison5069]

Gimmighoul? More like gimmi-a-break!

[@matthewkuscienko4616]

It took me the whole playthrough of the main story (this being before we got the dlc for the game) to get enough coins to evolve it. Come to think of it, this reminds me of how Crabrawler evolves at the end of the game in Sun and Moon, except that Gholdengo is a more worthwhile prize in my opinion

[@madnessarcade7447]

It’s fun and it fits the lore

[@LoudWaffle]

I looooove Gholdengo and its evolution method.

[@eliasrosas2310]

gimmighoul? more like gimmick-ghoul

[@mcsmileycorp]

Shout out to tandemaus evolving offscreen.

[@dradel2050]

I love Alcremie's. I know collecting them all is a pain, but you were never supposed to collect every Alcremie, you're supposed to have your own personalised Alcremie.

[@TheAzulmagia]

I get the feeling that the person who came up with the Regi side quest is behind some of these evolution methods.

[@AGuyNamedZach]

For Pawmo, Bramblin, and Rellor, they all have the added necessity of all needing to be outside of their Poke Balls in order to evolve after the requirements for the Let's Go feature have been met.

[@madnessarcade7447]

Their lore makes sense

[@rufflet7075]

I love how you progressively get angrier the more evolutions you cover

[@EffinChat]

Shout out to Wurmple for evolving into one of 2 diverging paths with no discernable way of guessing which will appear

[@MapleLunii]

Porygon is definitely the most annoying held item trade, cause you need both the Up-Grade and Dubious Disc :')

[@Turtle-Soup]

For sure! Forever thankful for legend arceus and being able to still send Gen 9 Pokémon to it for when it comes to completing the origin dexes in home!

[@DariusKetchum2010]

But it is the only Pokemon you can get fully evolved at level 1.

[@agungpermana9224]

​@@DariusKetchum2010 And also Budew

[@Richard-ec8xy]

​@@agungpermana9224naw budew would have to be at least level 2

[@armoredanteater609]

​@DariusKetchum2010 any two stage mon w a stone evolution can be level 1. Like any eeveelution, sunkern, petilil, musharna, etc

[@crystalizedfae]

I'm glad I'm not the only one fascinated by the weird variety of evolution methods

[@Swagpion]

Yup

[@typemasters2871]

I hate the “1 item for 1 Pokemon”, it’s like being given locks and being told “oh, you need the [pokemon] key to evolve [pokemon]”. Ideally either the number of Pokemon specific evolution items is decreased or what Pokemon evolve from pre-existing Pokemon evolution items should increase. With Scarlet and Violet having an option to Use or Hold for almost all bag items, held evolution items should be able to be used like other evolution items (similar to Legends Arceus) and all Pokemon evolution items (besides evolution stones) should be able to be held and have an effect either in-battle or on the overworld. As for some other methods that annoy me, this is how I would change them Tyrogue, which stat is higher determines it’s evolution (Attack = Hitmonlee, Defence = Hitmonchan, Speed = Hitmontop) Eevee to Sylveon, use Shiny Stone Sliggoo, can evolve if the weather is raining in battle Inkay, learn the move Topsy-Turvy G-Yamask, this NEEDS to change but the best ideas I have are either Dusk Stone or Peat Block Gimmighoul, if Pokemon materials get removed then I can imagine the method being replaced with an item evolution (“ancient coins” with the sprite showing a pile of coins)

[@browserjunior4707]

I feel that for the Tyrouge one it could be changed to evolving by learning specific moves. Any punch move gives you Hitmonchan, any kick move gives you Hitmonlee, and moves that aren’t considered kick/punch moves give you Top. Feels more consistent and fitting.

[@toumabyakuya]

*"I hate the “1 item for 1 Pokemon”, it’s like being given locks and being told “oh, you need the [pokemon] key to evolve [pokemon]”."* And what's the problem with that? Maybe your lack of patience is the problem here?. *"Ideally either the number of Pokemon specific evolution items is decreased or what Pokemon evolve from pre-existing Pokemon evolution items should increase."* And lore attached to said evolution methods? No, thanks. *"Tyrogue, which stat is higher determines it’s evolution (Attack = Hitmonlee, Defence = Hitmonchan, Speed = Hitmontop)"* Okay, I agree with this one. *"Eevee to Sylveon, use Shiny Stone"* It would lose its meaning at that point. Sylveon is supposed to be a reward for tightening your bond with an Eevee. *"Sliggoo, can evolve if the weather is raining in battle"* Agree with this one as well. *"Inkay, learn the move Topsy-Turvy"* A perfect middle ground. *"G-Yamask, this NEEDS to change but the best ideas I have are either Dusk Stone or Peat Block"* Sorry, but no. This would turn said evolution method into a nothing-burger. Besides, Yamask is not that hard to evolve, it receiving 49 points of damage without fainting would happen naturally. *"Gimmighoul, if Pokemon materials get removed then I can imagine the method being replaced with an item evolution (“ancient coins” with the sprite showing a pile of coins)"* *If* They get removed, otherwise there's no point in changing it.

[@typemasters2871]

@@toumabyakuya -The problem with “1 item for 1 Pokemon” is that you end up with similar items (Metal Coat and Metal Alloy are both metallic objects, Duraludon could have evolved using Metal Coat and it would have the same lore implications) and it leaves loads of potential on the table (imagine Munchlax getting different evolutions depending on what type of food items you use on it, Normal/Fairy if you give it a Sweet Dream or Normal/Grass if given a Syrupy Apple) -“Sylveon is supposed to be a reward for tightening your bond with an eevee”, fair enough but unfortunately with how Sylveon’s evolution overlaps with Umbreon and Espeon, there sometimes ends up a situation where someone who tries getting an Umbreon or Espeon ends up with a Sylveon because they forgot to remove all fairy type attacks from the list of currently known moves -G-Yamask I think needs to change because it’s the combination of needing to loose X amount of HP AND have a location based evolution, if it was one or the other then it would be fine but having both is too convoluted -With Gimmighoul it’s current evolution method is fine, people just find the obtaining of the coins to be the annoying part. Plus this suggestion was more “this is likely what would happen IF Pokemon materials are removed/not present”

[@toumabyakuya]

@@typemasters2871 *"The problem with “1 item for 1 Pokemon” is that you end up with similar items (Metal Coat and Metal Alloy are both metallic objects, Duraludon could have evolved using Metal Coat and it would have the same lore implications)"* I still fail to see the problem. Yeah, there are various items that have basically the same function, so what? Is not like we have finite space in the bag. *"and it leaves loads of potential on the table (imagine Munchlax getting different evolutions depending on what type of food items you use on it, Normal/Fairy if you give it a Sweet Dream or Normal/Grass if given a Syrupy Apple)"* Sounds more to me that the real "problem" is with them not taking the opportunity to create this easy evolutions instead than with the item itself. *"but unfortunately with how Sylveon’s evolution overlaps with Umbreon and Espeon, there sometimes ends up a situation where someone who tries getting an Umbreon or Espeon ends up with a Sylveon because they forgot to remove all fairy type attacks from the list of currently known moves"* You could always just stop the evolution from happening. Besides, I do not agree that the best solution to prevent this from happening would be to cut away lore by modifying how a Pokemon evolves. *"G-Yamask I think needs to change because it’s the combination of needing to loose X amount of HP AND have a location based evolution, if it was one or the other then it would be fine but having both is too convoluted"* I still fail to see the problem here. To me it sounds like you are just too lazy and don't care at all if lore is cut. *"people just find the obtaining of the coins to be the annoying part."* Then maybe they should stop being lazy. If they can grind levels, they can get the coins.

[@browserjunior4707]

@@toumabyakuya Issue with Coin Grinding is that it’s slow and tedious and level grinding as a whole has been removed as we now have EXP candies. While you **can** just hunt every Chest Gimmighoul down in the map, that’ll take forever and you’ll have to deal with the standard drops of 25/50 coins until you get those rare 100/200/300 coin drops. You’d also need to do Item Drop Power Level 3 ghost to make it faster but again all that work for an evolution I do think it’s tedious. As for everything else you said I agree. Sylveon should stay as is as I think realistically it makes sense that it is a friendship evo + fairy move. As for G-Yamask I think just having dedicated ominous spots on the field would be a good work around, like how they did with the Mossy Rock and Icy rock for Gen 4-7 (and technically 8). As for Metal Coat, the reason they didn’t make it an evo item either is cause they realized that most people do not like Trade Evolutions anymore. We haven’t had a new trade evolution Pokémon since Gen 6, the most recent one we gotten is technically Alolan-Golem. Metal Alloy works perfectly here since now it could potentially be used in future games for Scizor/Steelix rather than the Metal Coat, which honestly doesn’t even make much sense to be an evolution item considering.

[@djarian_alpharadical]

Actually, after collecting 999 Gimmighoul coins, any coins you pick up after that are stored by a guy in the town where Larry is. He’s in between a bunch of buildings. I had about 430 in reserves when I first found him.

[@CardinalTreehouse]

Great video, very good and in-depth content! If I can make a suggestion for future videos, look at adding a bit more of a pause between narration parts. There are times when the flow feels unnaturally fast and sections kind of run together. There was also the part where you showed the sinistra evos and showed the second one for less than a second, I was hoping to see it more! Again, great job though! I especially liked how you showed that the location based evolutions were directly replaced by their respective stones!

[@eduardog3000]

I love some of the unique mechanics, as long as they aren’t too complex. Turn Inkay upside down to evolve it? That’s cool. Actually I just did that today in Go, I was happy to see the method hadn’t been changed. I love Mantyke’s evolution, but I didn’t realize they removed Remoraid from Manatine’s sprite in the very same games, that’s pretty dumb. Shelmut and Karrablast might be a pain, but it’s pretty cool the ways it ties the two Pokémon together and makes their evolutions’ designs reflect that too. Milcery’s evolution by spin is cute, though they went a little overboard with the forms, which don’t even really reflect their specific requirements other than the sweet, and don’t make any difference for a shiny.

[@eduardog3000]

Actually one annoying thing about Milcery’s evolution is that Alcremie’s body is swirled, *but always in the same direction* despite direction of spin being a big part of determining its form.

[@mrtylersquared]

@@eduardog3000I never noticed the swirl direction but yea, that should have been reflected in the evo method!

[@munchrai6396]

Totally agree, the ones you listed are definitely my favorites. The only evolution methods I take issue with is Galarian Yanmask because the location leaves practically no impression and Steenee because no one in their right mind would expect it to evolve with something as mundane as Stomp when they could've used its signature move. I like Farfetch'd's and Basculin's evolution methods a lot, but it's a real bummer that it doesn't contribute more to their playstyles

[@ZenoDLC]

While "Linking Cable" is introduced in Legends Arceus, there is a "Link Cable" item all the way since a GBA game

[@tkayube]

Technically it was introduced in Pokemon Pinball for GBC

[@TheFunfighter]

Good video. Just some of the cuts were a bit too fast. The Pokemon at 7:30 vanished immediately. My favourite evolutions are probably location based ones. With the right environment design, it gives the area a mysterious landmark, and it's not particularly annoying to deal with.

[@howdytherestranger2139]

Gotta agree. I get pretty excited and talk without breaths when it comes to Pokémon, but I found myself thinking “pause and breathe my guy!!!” lol

[@nathanblackburn1193]

I feel like trade evolutions should be available in the wild but only in the late game, that way if you have someone to trade with you can get them early but if you don't you can still get them just much later.

[@Turtle-Soup]

More recent entries have certainly been pretty generous in having fully evolved trade evolution Pokémon in the wild, which I definitely appreciated in terms of dex completion.

[@wolfekupo5651]

they actually are in SwSh and SV although SV is Tera Raids only

[@pn2294]

That’s horrible. Why even have the evolution by that point?

[@nathanblackburn1193]

@@pn2294 That makes no sense?

[@pn2294]

@@nathanblackburn1193 If you could just start with the fully evolved form, why bother with the lower level ones?

[@ng_reed]

I love the theory that all these weird evolution mon always evolved via their respective methods, people in the pokemon universe just hadn't thought of or discovered them yet. Makes a lot more sense why certain mon gain evolution stages in later generations that way.

[@howdytherestranger2139]

I didn’t know about alcremie because I’ve only just been able to buy and start playing Violet, but that’s such a silly evolution method that I can’t wait to try it lol. Friendship evolutions are my favorite in games like HGSS where your Pokémon follow you, it really makes it feel just that touch more interactive. Like, “yeah, you’ve gone all over the over world with me AND you’re stronger for it? You go funky lil dude!”

[@katherinerichardson2273]

one of the reasons I've never had a full Pokedex is because of trade evolutions and game exclusive Pokemon

[@madnessarcade7447]

Pancham’s evolution is based on the bad influence trope

[@Sizzyl]

Friendship evolutions are a great method, really makes you feel attached to your pokemon and that they leveled up with you along your journey instead of just hitting the same level as other people's pokemon.

[@pmsherndon]

I can't wait for gen 10 to introduce an evolution method where I have to hold the Azure Flute and- wait sorry, that would be too confusing

[@1000-THR]

i just obtained the azure flute in bdsp, wonder what i can evolve with it

[@pabloddux]

I like evolutions that feel like a schoolyard story, and I'm also happy that Pokémon is adding events like Meloetta's in SV, which I was able to do by following the clues right before its release on Twitter.

[@shearman360]

I remember when sword and shield first released and people were spreading misinfo that the toxtricity form depends on if you're playing in docked or handheld mode

[@greninjamariokartpokemonfan]

Imagine if there were four other Pokemon that evolved via raising their Coolness, Cuteness, Cleverness, and Toughness conditions respectively, similar to how Feebas evolves with its Beauty condition.

[@ExcelHedge]

One thing I love about the Switch games Trade evolutions are catchable (SWSH, SV) or can be evolved without trading. (PLA)

[@AlienSnowflake]

As a kid i remembered why my lv 91 kadabra wasnt evolving coz back then no internet to help us :x

[@nidohime6233]

For a long time evolution by learning a move wasn't good either, because most of the time they had to learn by going to the Move Reminder (and those aren't cheap) since there where set to learn at level 1, or learn it as a Egg move by breeding.

[@Turtle-Soup]

Yeah the moves can be pretty unintuitive. However I do like the case of ancient power. Having to relearn a move that’s said to be ancient to evolve into an ancient looking creature feels like a fun lore way of doing it

[@DetectiveBarricade]

IIRC, only Piloswine was like that. Ones like Yanma and Aipom learned the move they needed as they leveled up.

[@GamingEelektross]

There is an NPC in Medali who will not only give you Gimmighoul coins, but also store the excess ones you pick up past 999.

[@Sai1523]

I got my Alcremie on accident. My brother was showing me that you could spin in this game and I tried it. Just then the evolution started and we just looked at each other and started laughing. I had it holding a sweet I had randomly gotten earlier.

[@arininquotes8396]

I wouldn't mind the Gimmighoul one AS much if the 999 coins weren't consumed so you could use them to get multiple without having to restart the hunt.

[@TheSalamanderMenace4]

Runerigus and Malamar are the most egregious of these wacky evos.

[@lukeblack8146]

Tandemaus evolves when reaching level 25 and it wasn't in a battle. It also skips the evolution screen and has 2 forms, 1 of which has a 1% chance of occuring.

[@miimiiandco]

Makes for a funny moment.

[@Turtle-Soup]

Tandemaus and dudunsparce 1/100 evolutions are definitely ones I should’ve covered in the video! Probably repressed them due to how long it took me to get them, as the rng wasn’t being kind. Tabdemaus skipping the evolution screen is definitely a fun little thing!

[@TyzulaShipper183]

It wouldn't be so egregious to me if these methods were more explicitly explained in game. Evolution is such a core mechanic, so it shouldn't be gated by your willingness to Google search every pokemon imo. even evo stones kinda bother me since you have to already have to item in your bag to know which is your pokemon can use it

[@Turtle-Soup]

I agree, there’s many places/characters they have that could help detail some of the odder ones so you don’t have to take yourself out of the game for just an evolution

[@1snivy10]

The Link Cable was an evolution item in the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon series first!

[@relicy]

there is an NPC in medali that holds on to your excess gimmieghoul coins and gives them to you when you've made more room in your inventory.

[@megablaster00]

great video, but damn bro take a breath, wanted to see more of the images bc I didn't play the new pokemon but you changed topics so fast I couldn't even pause in some of them (the tea ghost one)

[@JericoLeslie]

Fuck trade evolutions

[@lasercraft32]

I want them to go through and add more evolutions using the items that only evolve one Pokemon. Make use of those items more instead of adding _more and MORE_ single-use evolution items like the Peat Rock, Black Augurite, and the Metal Alloy.

[@BigSteve1997]

The most annoying thing about any of the special evolutions is that the game never tells you that's how it works so I always have to go online to figure out if I can even evolve the pokemon and then I don't end up using some cool pokemon because I can't trade with people or I don't have an item

[@AJMixup]

COOL IDEA EVOLUTIONS!!!: - Scream into your system, scaring your Pokemon into evolving - For an alt evolution, crash your game during it's regular evolution. - Talk to exactly 4 NPCs ONLY during your run, any more and your pokemon devolves - Catch/move your pokemon to a specific pokeball

[@safin8101]

Cant wait to commit vehicular manslaughter to evolve my Pokémon in generation 15, Pokémon Car and Pokémon Boat

[@mbii7667]

Just wait for the third version, Pokémon Plane

[@olivebranches8246]

Pokemon Planes, Pokemon Trains, and Pokemon Automobiles

[@natetheg379]

I have an idea/solution to the Gimmigoul problem: For any Pokemon you don't use in battle, give them a Gimmigoul coin as a held item. When you come across a wild Pokemon you wouldn't normally care about, catch it anyway! It could be useful for this. This should increase your storage for the coins, and I'm pretty sure the boxes can hold about 960 Pokemon total, and with more of them never being used than being used, that's almost enough to hold coins for two evolutions, the first 999 just being in the bag!

[@queencepha]

What's interesting about Feebas is that it's Beauty evolution is still applicable in all the games that don't have contests! So if you max out a Feebas's beauty in gen 3 and then transfer it up all the way, it will evolve by leveling up in the newest games

[@fortello7219]

Just a pet peeve of mine but, Galarian Farfatch'd is not very RNG dependent. Holding a Leek alone gives a 50% crit chance, but it also learns Focus Energy and False Swipe by TM which means it can effortlessly land 3 crits in 4 turns against any non-ghost type pokemon in the wild.

[@vamp97]

Never forget that evil npc in gen 4 who gave her trade haunter an everstone

[@mihoyminoy3649]

Never forget the heartbreak from the npc in gen 2 who trades you an onix with no metal coat

[@AzureFlute]

I like having a lot of different evolution items but some of them definitely feel a bit... much... like I agree on Duraludon, no idea why it didn't just use the Metal Coat

[@ratburn4830]

I think a lot of the crazy evolution methods are pretty cool because they feel like side quests. The ones I really don't like are the ones like finizen where it feels like theres gonna be a point in te where you just won't be able to evolve it in that game when they inevitability shut down switch servers.

[@Turtle-Soup]

That’s a really good point! I think union circles can at least be down locally, and I believe palafin can appear in raids, but yeah, losing online would only just massively increase the difficulty of evolving one if you don’t have multiple consoles/ nearby friends that play

[@marcoasturias8520]

Wait, isn't there a proximity connection? Does that one requires internet too?

[@lilharm]

a neat fakemon drawing challenge I thought of was to make another Pokemon for unique evolution methods ie: another Pokemon that evolves after landing 3 crits in a battle, or traveling through a stone gate after losing 49 hp or for unique items like the Galarica Cuff and Wreath, or the Dragon Scale

[@jaidentrettin]

There is a person in a town that will hold extra coins if you already reached the max of 999, so you can still collect more coins if you are even at max. Can’t remember the town name but if you look up guides on how to farm the coins the guides usually will say the guy and town he’s in.

[@rex_melynas]

The gimmigoul found are not consumed, so you only need to hunt 999 coins once

[@matthewkuscienko4616]

They technically are consumed, but there's also an npc that will hold onto your Gimmighoul coins once they are used to evolve one, which at least means you're not forced to collect that many again. Clearly, the developers realized how frustrating this would be, and so created the aforementioned npc to make it less of a headache. But it's still a pain to collect enough coins necessary to evolve it, even if you only need to technically do it once

[@DetectiveBarricade]

The 999 coins needed to evolve Gimmighoul are consumed, but you can continue to collect Gimmighoul Coins even after you've hit that number. They'll just be held by an NPC in Medali until you've used up or tossed the ones in your bag.

[@dropfish3109]

... no?

[@gochogames1360]

One of my biggest flexes is that when I evolved a tyrouge, I didn’t really care what it turned into, I would’ve been fine with any so I didn’t train it in any specific stat and when it finally evolved I got a hitmontop

[@pageclayton6850]

Funnily enough, I've been duped by the same evolution method on 3 separate occasions. In gen 6, I had an amaura until the league In gen 8, I had a snom until the league Both require levelling up, with high friendship, at night.

[@WiGgYof09]

When I first played X and Y I wanted to evolve Eevee into a Sylveon, which evolves via friendship. What I didn't know was that as I was training it and getting close to Sylveon, I had entered the area near a moss rock, leveled Eevee up, and thought it was evolving into Sylveon. Nope, Leafeon instead. It was a neat surprise, but a bit disappointing too.

[@FRAPPEFIZZYY]

im pretty sure you actually CAN horde Gimmighoul coins for extra evolutions! you can continue to collect coins after hitting 999, and a character in medali will claim to have “found” coins, which i believe do actually line up with how many you’ve collected since hitting the maximum!

[@Minezum]

18:41 just a correction/tip, you can hoard for multiple evolutions. The coins that you would have gotten once maxed out are given to a guy in Medali. It's a worker dressed with a reflectior jacket saying the coins keep popping out. If you talk to him after using the coins, he will give the ones that you didn't get before.

[@WannaComment2]

I want them to add more Pokemon with hyper-specific secret evolution requirements and never tell the players that they even exist. I imagine an evil dark type Pokemon that has some weak fairy type move at level 1, which evolves into a secret fairy type version if it uses that move after level 60. But the kicker is that you can't catch that Pokemon at a low enough level in the wild, so you wouldn't even know it has that move at level 1. So you have to breed one and level it up without ever unlearning the move. Then there are some sinister dark type moves that you aren't allowed to let him learn along the way. The third move it learns is own of them, so you have to teach two TMs before then to make sure it doesn't have room for it.

[@funnyperson4027]

Ngl as a kid in gen 4 hunting down those trade evolution items made them feel all the more impactful when you were finally able to evolve that pokemon

[@r.a.fgattaiguy845]

It´s kinda weird that fans complain modern games are too easy and robotic (even though they have always been) but when GF introduces and interesting/complex evolution method to change things up those same fans complain it´s too complex

[@DankBoyy00]

The friendship evolution, while not my favourite, reminds me of the Pokémon anime.

[@jeremyranger4260]

friendship evolution became really easy since the addition of pokémon amie. Each gen since 6 has an easy way of boosting friendship via grooming/cooking with your pokémon.

[@thesuperthingymabob8209]

Swadloon and chansey are also second stage happiness evo mons like golbat. Chansey is probably less relevant for a normal playthrough but I've used sewaddle in the same way I've used zubat and had it Evolve soon after reaching its mid stage

[@transgirlgeology2464]

Wake up babe new turtle soup banger

[@ironmuro]

11:50 You know after I saw how the evolutions where changed in XD it just made me question why they don't just make you need a Sun Stone and or Moon Stone. Since they changed Gleaceon and Leafeon to need a Ice Stone and Leaf stone respectively, I feel like it would just keep that stone evolution theme Eevee has with its Gen 1 Evolutions. I don't think there is a pre existing stone that perfectly works for Sylveon though... maybe Shiny Stone? It evolves a couple fairy types already.

[@Turtle-Soup]

I’ve had conversations before where I’ve argued they should switch those evos to those exact stones. If they were to make the change, would even lead into a prime opportunity for evos that use the dusk and dawn stones.

[@化けの花]

as much as i love inkay, as a squid enthusiast myself, and think its evolution method is very silly, it annoys me that i always have to get my friends to evolve my inkay for me, since you can't evolve inkay if you have a pro controller connected to the console while flipping it upside-down for whatever reason. my joycons are broken so i can't use them and even turning off my pro controller as i level it up doesn't work unfortunately :( also this just made me remember i currently have an unevolved shiny inkay and now i'm gonna need to get my friends to evolve this one too.......

[@user-yb6bb1lc3k]

Really enjoyed the video, just wanted to add a little input - keeping the screen blurred for a while when not showing any items is a bit disengaging. Not trying to be negative, the information was entertaining.

[@AllegedlyHuman]

Actually, I have gotten less than 50 coins from Gimmighoul chests on numerous occasions, but I have also gotten 100 coins from roamers several times too, so I guess it all evens out. Still a pain in the ass though x) Great video as always!

[@Turtle-Soup]

Thanks! And I guess when making this video I was just being a little hopeful in that it wasn’t as much of a pain as it really is!

[@AllegedlyHuman]

@@Turtle-Soup for what it's worth, the roaming ones can respawn several times a day. It's not guaranteed, of course, but if you obsessively memorise their hiding spots, you can rack them up pretty quickly? I think I got enough coins for an evolution in 3 days at the height of my obsession lol

[@sonictrainer]

IIRC, isn't the Link Cable also an item in the Mystery Dungeon games?

[@wbw911]

yes it is a consumable item that could be found in dungeons

[@GCatlord]

Fucked up and evil evolution idea: a regional evolution that can only be done with a different region's regional form of a pokemon. (like if you brought an alolan vulpix to johto and it evolved into a fully new pokemon, despite kantonian vulpix already living there)

[@MosukaDreamer]

Technically they've already done that since Blueberry academy is in the Unova region.

[@LionelRGuy]

Just so you know for the future, there's actually a guy in one of the towns in SV (I forget which one, don't have time to look it up) who holds on to any excess Gholdengo Coins you pick up after 999. It doesn't make up for the nightmare, but it helps for evolving a 2nd or 3rd one down the road.

[@GravityBouncer]

can’t wait to collect shards for a new evo item that can only be found between gym badge 5 and 6 and is completely locked out once i progress for the new regional fairy type Dragonite evo

[@MotorcycleCheetah]

Personally, I just hope we get more Applin Evolutions. Hopefully one based on an Apple Tree and one based on an Apple Fritter~

[@ethanbrenna9798]

I want the next Kanto remake to have a missingno-inspired line where you've gotta talk to the catching instructor and fly to cinnabar to evolve it.

[@pellet1167]

I'm doing a Fighting type only Nuzzlocke in Shield right now and caught 3 Tyrogues as my starter Pokemon and was surprised that I ended up w a Hitmonlee-Chan- and Top before I even got to the first gym

[@MissInformer]

Im surprised vivillion didnt get a mention here. It has around a dozen different forms, and in pokemon GO, you have to be freinds with players from different countries, recieve gifts from them, and pin thost postcards to you postcard book in game, and you have to do it several times for each specific region before you get an encounter with a region specific scatterbug, which then has to be evolved with a total of 125 candies to actually get the vivillion that looks different.

[@douglasfreer]

Sometimes it makes you wonder how some people figured these methods out, like the specific amount of damage ones, without coordinating with others

[@sonicrunn3r895]

I think out of all the methods in the series, my least favourite has to be the location based ones. Still insane that in Sun and Moon, you had to lug around a charjabug for 80% of the game for it to evolve (and they actually addressed this in USUM by making an area on Ula'Ula also work for the evolution)

[@ToxicAtom]

I'd like to take this moment to remind you that at +3 crit chance, crits become guaranteed. Easiest way to do this is holding a Leek, which gives +2, use a crit-boosted move, which will usually be +1.

[@Mike_Ka-Chowski]

You can hear the Gimmighouls, though. Their cry is very distinct

[@djcantskate3883]

The bisharp into kingambit is pretty cool it’s like the top tier bisharp hold the leader’s crest and it only gets to be a king among them when you defeat 3 of them

[@neo_b]

hopefully Pokemon Legends Z-A continues the ability to evolve trade/trade-item evolutions like in Arceus, PLA almost covered all the ones from the first 4 generations (except Seaking, Slowking, Politoed, Huntail, Gorebyss, Milotic), coincidentally them and the rest of the trade/trade-item evolutions from Gen 5+ are in the Kalos Pokedex, so finger crossed!!

[@Turtle-Soup]

It is indeed one of my biggest hopes for Z-A! I use legends arceus as a trade evolution machine whenever I can when I’m having to fill out a Pokédex!

[@KestrelDC]

Trade evolutions drive me nuts but I’ve found some of them spawn wildly in some games and also transferring them from Go is a great work around. That doesn’t help for Finizen to Paladin, though, but I was able to get that one by using local instead of online with a friend so that’s a nice memory, especially since it was the last entry to complete the base game SV Dex and that’s also the first Dex I’ve actually completed and I completed it in both games!

[@maxhax367]

Fun fact I saw somewhere. Mamoswine line can't learn Ancient power aside from egg move. So they couldn't evolve by themselves in the beginning. Barboach or dunsparce (not sure which one ATM) is like the only Pokémon in same egg group. So technically all mamoswines are descendants of that Pokémon.

[@mingphung632]

I wanna see a evolution method where the method is voice activated. By saying a phrase or just a sound can trigger a Pokemon evolution.

[@prismaticmaniac2084]

I think the reason duraludon doesn't evolve with the metal coat is because the metal coat is used to evolve pokemon that were not previously steel types (scyther and Onix for example)

[@LimeLoaf]

That makes sense because it coats them in metal

[@Turtle-Soup]

That’s a very fair assessment!

[@dragonninja3655]

I'm pretty sure link cables were in the mystery dungeons games too.

[@pimpingporygon7157]

Fun fact: in the code of home and scarlet and violet, the metal alloy (used to evolve duraladon) also evolves meltan into melmetal

[@STikER326]

That's a lie.

[@jdvred9210]

Me when misinformation

[@maganhassan2627]

Wasn't this misinformation spread by lewtwo?

[@pimpingporygon7157]

@@STikER326 Anubis recently found the code for it. He's a big hacker for Pokemon games

[@levelseven9726]

Great video! If they’re going to keep doing complex evolution methods, I don’t have a problem with it as long as they give some kind of hint in game. It’s kind of like solving a puzzle, I don’t want to have to look up a guide, it kinda takes me out of the experience.

[@dimetrodon2250]

Legends Arceus at least had their new methods hinted at with some of the dex requirements. Although that was also the game where they streamlined a lot of evolutions

[@Turtle-Soup]

Big time! Karrablast/shelmet and Inkay for example have their evolutions’ designs hint towards their methods, which is nice. I haven’t checked in a long time, but it’d be nice if say the Pokémon labs or maybe libraries had books you could read that hinted/detailed some of the more complicated ones like galarian yamask, so while it’s still looking them up in a way, it’s still a way that keeps you immersed.