The Weird History of Pokeballs

[@ClaireZhasa]

At this point I'm convinced that the Kurt balls are intentionally programmed wrong

[@FEVB]

It has to be a running joke at GF lmao😂

[@thecrispymaster]

Kurt's just not very good at what he does, clearly.

[@tylertichoc7330]

They are absolutely messing with us at this point. When it comes to the glitches they actually can't get it right. So they make them obscenely rare. But if it means that we have more instances of Pokéballs acting like the Hisui balls in future legends games, I guess that at least makes up for it somewhat in a different way.

[@tylertichoc7330]

​@@FEVBRight behind the guy who FUCKING HATES FLAREON AND REGIGAS! 😆💢

[@CalicoCrack]

almost like the balls made by some random guy you just met are counterfeit. thats what i always thought

[@sonicrunn3r895]

Love the idea that Kurt balls are just consistently either bad or faulty

[@Turtle-Soup]

As annoying as it is, there’s definitely some humour in them almost always be the ones with issues

[@velo_GG]

a lot of catching mechanics gen 1-4 simply do not function as intended. for example great balls are better than ultra in RBY.

[@velo_GG]

lyra has in-depth videos on the topic if anyone interested:D

[@Turtle-Soup]

Lyra’s videos are great, I also recommend them!

[@RickWhitechest]

Well, they ARE handmade! It's kinda funny to imagine Kurt's craftsmanship has either always been lacking, or he's just phoning them in, and nobody has noticed enough to call him out on it.

[@bestwaifu3852]

It's insane to me that there's 3 balls dedicated to water types and none for any other type yet (aside from net being for bug too). They really gotta start making balls that are good for catching other types. Or even give some of the existing balls a secondary effect, like the moonball could be good on dark types and the duskball could be good on ghost, etc. I just think it'd be great to have balls that match the pokemon types and dont know why they haven't done this yet.

[@Turtle-Soup]

I agree. I could understand one pokeball dedicated to water type Pokémon due to there being so many, but 3 is definitely overkill. Really like the idea of giving balls like the moon ball getting repurposed, could even have like the fast ball work well against electric types, it already has a lightning bolt on it

[@UltimatePhantasm]

Shiny Umbreon should be required by law to be caught with a Moon Ball

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

Well it's less Water Types, and moreso the mechanics of surfing, diving, and fishing. But yeah there definitely should be more Type bases balls. Also weird we never got a Sun Ball to match the Moon Ball, which should both work under the moon and sun respectively.

[@coltonmartin5057]

I like the dive ball aesthetic. So I use that to catch non water types and pokemon not in water. Just for fun!

[@officersoulknight6321]

I would make moon ball good against not just Pokemon that evolve with a moon stone, but any space-oriented pokemon

[@Ocarinist_Drew]

My favorite is probably the Premier Ball just because it's kind of a status symbol. It's like, yeah, I could have used an Ultra Ball, but instead I decided to use a more expensive ball with a worse catch rate, just because it looks nice.

[@Turtle-Soup]

I am also a pretty big fan of the premier ball, being my ball of choice when I shiny hunt mythicals in bdsp

[@KeiranTrick]

Aren't Premier balls literally free

[@Diwasho]

This is what people who always keep asking for a feature that lets you swap the existing ball attached to a Pokémon for any other of their choice don't understand. Doing that would literally ruin the whole point of unique ball designs, especially Premium and Cherish.

[@Ocarinist_Drew]

@@KeiranTrick Not really. They cost at least 2000 pokedollars (or whatever the currency is). Sure the they come with 10 regular balls but I don't care about those. I just want the Premier Balls.

[@timotheatae]

​@@DiwashoThey can put limitations on it, it's not like any of us can actually GET Cherish ball items! It would be reasonable to also put restrictions in place like "no moving to a less effective ball", if they're that concerned.

[@crestofhonor2349]

So there isn't a single pokemon game where all the pokeballs function as intended

[@MarioMastar]

I guess pokemon Legends Arceus is the only one as yeah Gen 1 had broken the great and ultra balls due to some weird mechanics with the calculation.

[@KaitouKaiju]

Almost all the games have some bug that directly contradicts in game text

[@PlatonicDIVA]

Gen 5

[@slimestudios9748]

since an SV update fixed the Lure Ball i think they all function there?

[@nickbeilschmidt411]

At this point I'm convinced nobody making the games actually knows how to program

[@KaibaKid_]

I think the Lotto of Blueberry Academy succeeds where the Cramomatic failed: making a commodity of gambling with it.

[@Turtle-Soup]

They really nailed it too. The rush of seeing the pause and zoom in waiting to see if it'll be the 2x bonus or the ball lotto is something else

[@JodiGeo]

Cramomatic was just honestly, too slow to use

[@meias.]

3:40 i love how they accidentally made all pokemon gay (or, yk, at least attracted to the same sex)

[@timotheatae]

Honestly I think the love ball has fallen off for... Obvious reasons. If they bring it back as anything but a post game pretty ball bonus, they'll have to give it an element of randomness.

[@MarioMastar]

Friends of mine used to joke about same gender pokemon using "Sweet kiss" or "Lovely Kiss". There is "Charm" but it only works on opposite gender pokemon. (however not in Pokemon Masters EX where it works on any pokemon but given the nature of the game, it makes sense why they wouldn't do that. Mina would be useless against most female trainers and Grimsley)

[@atpyro7920]

Kurt was quite progressive for 1999

[@petergriscom3431]

Reminds me of that one episode of the Pokemon anime where a scientist is trying to build a machine that can make Attract work on same-sex Pokemon.

[@TheRedSmarty]

26:43 They actually fixed the Lure Ball in Scarlet/Violet in an update at some point.

[@Turtle-Soup]

Oh that is really good to hear! I didn’t come across it being fixed in my research, but I’m glad they fixed it!

[@jesuisunstroopwafel]

Better late than never.

[@shawnskinner4422]

​@@Turtle-Souphey what about the all gold pokeball that james gets his gold magikarp in episode "shipwreck"

[@dimetrodon2250]

@@shawnskinner4422that was just a regular Pokeball painted gold as part of the scam

[@DrDunsparce]

@@shawnskinner4422that was revealed to be a painted normal pokeball in the same episode

[@paneth8466]

The cool thing about Scarlet/Violet is that when you use them in a den they have a 100% catch rate meaning the Beast Ball is useable.

[@Turtle-Soup]

Yeah! Really glad they made the change for raids having guaranteed catches, was really annoying getting only the one chance with the max raids.

[@bewearstar9462]

I didn't know that so I just used my beast ball on teragaphos because it was a 100% catch rate due to the story

[@MarioMastar]

@@bewearstar9462Hehe I used my Master ball just to flex and cause I really never use the master ball for anything else. I guess call it a flex on Kieran but I didn't actually think about that when I did it until now. XD XD XD Nah I love Kieran. His story was really interesting. Nice to finally see a mean rival have a redemption arc IN GAME rather than in a different game (Pokemon Masters EX finally shows Silver's but RIP Bede who's still a narc and doesn't learn his lesson much... )

[@confusedbuddy]

I caught walking wake in the beast ball

[@gupdoo3]

@@bewearstar9462 I used a friend ball on Ogerpon bc the colors match

[@MollyOKami]

If you think about it, Pokémon GO! _is_ the final Safari Zone.

[@MarioMastar]

and the only one that actually was fun to play and not a horrible RNG fest.

[@smellystinker4837]

​@@MarioMastarit's still fun :)

[@chaossin7425]

Luxury ball, woooo! Such style, plus the flex of being stubborn enough to use it to catch everything.

[@DomTheCivilian]

Meeeeee ✨

[@UltimatePhantasm]

I love how Horizons reveals that the inside of a Luxury Ball looks just a classy as the outside when a Pokemon is inside it XD

[@Predated2]

I only use the luxury ball for pokemon I intend to breed with or pokemon I tend to use in battle a lot. Its really nice to have a guaranteed easy friendship with the friendship based focus band/full heal mechanic. The friendball does something similar, but less effective (you reach max friendship faster with luxury balls, even though friendballs give you a 200 point head start), and is a pain to collect. Other than that, yeah, im definitely stubborn. Luckily not so stubborn to complete my pokedex with luxury balls, im using the "lazy" quick ball for that one.

[@miimiiandco]

@Predated2 I did some testing in S/V a while ago, and it seems the friendship boost from the Friend Ball doesn't work on Pokemon hatched from eggs, which is annoying. Checked on Bulbapedia and yeah, doesn't work for Pokemon hatched from eggs. Luxury Balls works on bred Pokemon, though.

[@MarioMastar]

I catch my favorite raid pokemon in those. Feels like a nice way to show I love them since it's the most expensive at 3000 pokedollars.

[@Bombercules]

love ball is 8x only against wild pokemon of the same gender AND species as they active pokemon in gen II, with it switching to opposite gender as intended in HG/SS

[@icecontrol1]

Should have been called the Gay Ball in Gen 2, still hilarious how they messed up half of them

[@Pyronaut_]

I feel like an interesting change could be to make it also give the bonus if the Pokémon is infatuated, similar to how the Dream Ball gives the bonus for sleep.

[@MarioMastar]

That bugged me when I first read it and thought "Wow the love ball will make filling the dex SO much easier!" and then I read the "Same species" part and binned it. At least the ball looks really nice for catching pokemon like Salazzle, too bad they're practically post game. I do like the strange ball though. it just looks cool with that teal green.

[@dimetrodon2250]

So does that mean that the bonus even affects genderless Pokemon of the same species?

[@warpedwhimsical]

Anyone else catch basically everything in gen 4 in a dusk ball cause they stayed up all night playing? I know I can’t be the only one

[@Turtle-Soup]

I may have been guilty of this a bit in my youth, to tell the truth

[@miimiiandco]

I'd imagine they're really good in Moon and Ultra Moon too.

[@zombierobot5747]

That's how it became my favorite 😆

[@nverburg]

Smart

[@Chaletica]

Me too lmao

[@MollyOKami]

The best ball? There is no competition. It's the Luxury Ball!

[@Asidders]

I imagine it stinks of like old metal. 🤢

[@EightViolett]

I just wish we could transfer Pokémon to different balls after the fact, so you didn't have to decide between aesthetics and efficiency when catching.

[@MarioMastar]

Yeah, hopefully in later games. the only way to really change the ball they're in now is to breed two non-ditto pokemon where one has the ball you want, but that's assuming they can breed and have a gender. If they're genderless or unbreedable (Legendary) you're out of luck.

[@NadiaDelcatty-pg6fs]

Your descriptions of the Pokeball appearances are great for low vision and blind people, great video. Looking forward to the Pokeballs they’ll have in Legends A-Z

[@timotheatae]

Ugh I am so weirdly excited for the mechanics of PLZA

[@SunshineCasy]

I hope that the Hisui balls properly display in Legends Z-A and beyond. I can sort of understand using the Strange Ball for now since the art for the Hisui Balls might not have been finished during SV's development, but I hope they remember to fix it. They should know how cool it is to have a unique, antique Pokeball on some of your Pokemon, instead of a placeholder.

[@Accidental.Creation]

Quickball gang, rise up!

[@Shadowonwater]

let's gooooooo

[@peshomighty5051]

Premier ball. Great on shinies extra 30x percent catchrate. catching wild reshirams and i kove free money

[@davidmaximus6709]

​@@peshomighty5051 Just looked it up. I did not realize Premier balls actually let you catch full odd shinies automatically. Glad to know they have a use

[@300kyuubi]

Awww yeah! Quick ball gang!

[@shinesoul7472]

To complete The Dexs. Plus Shinys to not risk them fainting themselves

[@neo_b]

i hope we get the park ball back, we’re severely lacking a mainly yellow pokeball option

[@Roman6ixv3]

glad u made this , pokeballs were always a small fascination of mine in the games with the cherish one being my all time favorite

[@Shadowonwater]

my favorite is the Quick Ball, it's just so handy

[@Turtle-Soup]

It definitely is handy, a good chunk of my living dex happens to be caught in them!

[@bruhmphrey]

I think the multiples of 10 premier ball purchase gift has been modified in recent games to grant you multiple premier balls at once

[@vgmaster02]

Yes. Once that update happened, it's been a mainstay going forward. Which is why it's fun when I buy hundreds of quick balls and repeat balls and they throw in a couple dozen premiere balls for free XD

[@Neko_Necromancer]

Yes, he says that in the video once he gets to the game that makes that change

[@milesmartin9624]

Apriballs had their existence justified when they came back in HGSS and could be used for style rather than their actual catching benefits.

[@WhoElseButZane]

Im having the weirdest mandella effect. I played gen 3 more than any other game and i couldve sworn dusk and quick balls were available in gen 3

[@jackfrost3686]

I could see quick ball but Ruby and sapphire didn’t have a day and night cycle so the dusk ball would do nothing

[@Turtle-Soup]

For a long while I thought the quick and timer balls came out in the same gen given how well they pair mechanically. The Gen 3 and 4 balls, for the most part, blend together pretty well.

[@HesGotaGun505]

@@jackfrost3686dusk ball also gets the bonus in caves and dungeons

[@DemonClaw-cj6nq]

I thought there was a day/night cycle to obtain espeon and umbreon. The game just doesn’t visually change in the overworld. Also there were still caves of course

[@thekeepr]

@@jackfrost3686it would work in caves

[@stapuft]

"deck-el" What the flying fuck?

[@pokeperson1000]

Samson’s weird old pokéball is one that sticks out in memory

[@dimetrodon2250]

Especially since it seems even more cumbersome and difficult to use than the Ancient balls (and unless Professor Oak is well over 100 years old, it really doesn’t add up, unless Pokeball technology somehow got worse)

[@Lahiss]

@@dimetrodon2250 kid Oak's old ball is just a movie only thing. Safe to say that Ye Olde Balls in Legends series have retconned away that old design from the franchise.

[@KingTaltia]

"Everyone has their own favorite, for me, I don't like balls with protrusions" Meanwhile for me; my signature pokemon is a Shiny Smeargle in a Beast Ball, because I'm a masochist!

[@1800renzo]

Back in my day we crafted our own Poke Balls

[@mbii7667]

Back in the Hisui days

[@billie-ve_in_yourself6464]

I feel crazy, I always thought Premier ball had a high catch rate for shiny Pokémon. Even though it doesn’t, it still feels cool to catch a discolored Pokémon in a discolored pokeball.

[@amberhernandez]

I remember seeing images of Poké balls inspiring a craze of mine, where I would design Poké balls of my own, draw them, give them unique (if niche) effects, and meticulously store the pages in a binder to send to Game Freak. Dad made me save up my own money for postage, and I did actually get to mail it, but I never heard back or got a return. I can't even remember what little Amber thought was good Poké ball design, but I hope whatever concoctions were in there inspired someone at the company, hahaha!

[@davidhodes9896]

good video, consistent audio quality, good topic, and just in depth enough

[@British_Rogue]

The very first time I used a Master Ball, it was against a damaged Level 34 Onix in Mt. Silver. I had no idea it was intended for legendaries.

[@amberhernandez]

Level 24 Fearow on Cycling Road here 😭

[@AzureFlute]

Great video! I am a fan of how in depth you went, and I agree, the Ball is one of the most important parts of Pokémon and deserves more love

[@godminnette2]

I'm surprised you didn't make at least slight reference to Ball Capsules and Seals in generation 4!

[@Turtle-Soup]

I can’t believe I forgot them! They are one of my favourite little additions in the series and I completely forgot about them! Just leaves room for a video in the future I guess!

[@Nehu_22]

My favorite pokeballs are the Dusk and Netball, not only because of how they look, but the effects when the pokemon comes out (specially the the Duskball)

[@Turtle-Soup]

Yeah the dusk ball animation is a really good one!

[@MarioMastar]

Given my favorite pokemon type is Dark type (as are my favorite character trainers in the game), Dusk is my favorite too.

[@GreyGlade]

never really stopped to consider how many new pokèball variations there have been, great vid!!

[@NEET_201]

i think it was important to mention that prior to gen 3 we didn't have actual images of the pokeballs so balls that didn't make a return in later generations didn't have an official design, aka the original park ball, and the one shown was the anime version, which doesn't always translates to the games, for example the anime Safari Ball, season 1, being a simple green top with a white bottom and a s on top of the "power" button compare to its camo in-game counter part

[@emilysiegert5481]

It's a bit basic, but I've always loved the Ultra Ball. The black and yellow design just looks so sleek and classy. And it's just such a solid workhorse ball having best catch rate of the original big three. I actually got a tattoo of an Ultra Ball wreathed in flowers on my shoulder the day I hit level 40 in Pokemon Go. I scheduled it specifically so I could be sitting in the chair getting inked while I leveled up.

[@bevstarrunner9472]

OMG dude straight out forgot about the smoke ball..... 😮

[@randomuploaderguy]

pronouncing "decal" as "deckle" and not "dee-cal" gives me major Trailer Park Boys vibes. "Check out these sick decnals, Bubs!"

[@Subatomicfish]

24:27 I had always hoped early on that the heavy ball line would use the better multiplier in battle, but I figured it wouldn’t considering they’ll have spotted you except maybe the first turn of battle if you caught them off guard, but I’m glad to know they’re just always awesome! If only they weren’t hard to throw accurately on Basculegion

[@Turtle-Soup]

Yeah, I learned that when researching for this video, and was quite happy when I read it! Also I hope that if legends Z-A has a water mount, they make it a bit easier to control, especially when trying to catch stuff!

[@Subatomicfish]

@@Turtle-Soup yeah I’m pretty sure they kinda just goofed on how the throwing animations work when on Basculegion. The camera snaps back to where you’re facing immediately even if the throwing animation hasn’t finished, I think that’s the main thing. And if they wanted to do the bullet time as well as in botw then they’d make it so the balls fly the same speed in and out of bullet time (so faster in bullettime in-universe) and make it so you don’t instantly get taken out of bullet time so you have a chance to throw multiple balls more consistently.

[@GSS1Sirius]

The Beast Ball is my favorite.

[@excalibur493]

It's an amazing ball. I saved one for Terapagos, and it was such a good fit!

[@GSS1Sirius]

@@excalibur493 I captured Eternatus, my favorite poké, in one.

[@incandescence5547]

I love the sci-fi look of it, it's amazing

[@ThePhl4ever]

At least in the last few generations the number of premier balls you receive is based on the number of sets of 10. If you were to buy 99 pokeballs all at once you receive 9 premier balls.

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

And if you bought 90 without the 9?

[@shrimpshufflr7745]

They addressed this

[@miimiiandco]

The extreme rarity of the apriballs has allowed many collectors to attempt to collect as many Pokemon in as many apriballs as possible. Beast Balls and Dream Balls are usually counted as an apriball too. I think that's really cool, personally, keep an eye out for these "aprimon" in Wonder Trade!

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

Nah forced scarcity is dumb, though at this point they should just let you customize your Poke Balls

[@Turtle-Soup]

Personally I feel like most Pokémon being in certain balls shouldn’t be something to try to collect. I believe that it takes something that should be about something that has meaning to you and instead turns it into more of a trophy

[@miimiiandco]

@@Turtle-Soup I've seen other people against aprimon collecting as well - now that I think about it, aprimon collecting seems like a rather devisive aspect of Pokemon, actually.

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

@@miimiiandco They should just let you switch Poke Balls if nothing else, just have it destroy the original Poke Ball you used so people can't do it willy-nilly or use it to exploit the Master Ball, which you shouldn't be able to do anything with.

[@iquemedia]

I used to be a "pokeballs only" trainer (big flex having hard to catch pokemon in them) but then when I stopped taking the game so seriously I switched up to an ~aesthetic over everything~ trainer now all my mon match the balls they are in and it's really cute :) (also catching pokemon in beast balls who are not ultra beasts is the biggest mf flex)

[@Turtle-Soup]

I also used to be one, but slowly have been opening up to using others. I still catch all my legendaries in pokeballs tho, don’t think I’ll ever move on from that

[@theknightwithabadpictotall7639]

In my opinion it's just satisfying to have everything in a normal Poké Ball, so I usually only use them apart from when I can't (safari zone and bug catching contest) I don't do that in Pokémon Go tho, I use all sorts of balls to catch Pokémon in that game The one time I didn't use a Poké Ball was catching Giratina in Platinum, I tried so damn hard but I got impatient and just chucked the Master Ball at it I'll likely use Beast Balls when I play gen 7 tho because it wouldn't feel right to catch UBs in Poké Balls

[@miimiiandco]

That's what I do too. It's really fun seeing all the different Pokeballs at the healing machines/Pokemon Centers.

[@Hyuduro]

Me using Beast Balls for the Living Dex when applicable: "You underestimate how much time I'm willing to do this."

[@luoxuanxuan6754]

Love the video, surprised you didnt mention the pokeball seals from gen 4, I love those

[@Turtle-Soup]

Oh I totally should have! I love the ball seals, and really should’ve included them!

[@dezarla]

@@Turtle-Soup I was going to mention them too! I was really disappointed when they didn't come back in gen 5.

[@excalibur493]

​@@dezarlaSame, but at the same time, I'm not surprised. The letter ones are easily... abused.

[@MarcoBeSomething]

@@Turtle-Soupthat’s easy to miss with the scale of this video. Props for scaling what could’ve easily been multiple videos into one big video, that being said the seals can easily be a follow up video.

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

​@@excalibur493...then why not drop JUST the letters?

[@pablodelgado7919]

My favorites has to be some of the Kurt Balls like the Moon Ball, Fast Ball, Heavy Ball and Level Ball. As for Pokéballs available normally in Marts, the Luxury Ball, Premier Ball and Dusk Ball are my top favorites, both in terms of design and how they look when you either sent your Pokémon out or when you try to catch them.

[@Interesting_Failure]

The Fast Ball was meant to be specialized for catching the new roaming legendaries, I'd assume. Kind of as a thing where to catch these elusive legendaries you find apricorns and get custom-made balls just for the purpose...I could see it working. Y'know, if the ball itself did.

[@BlueDavrial]

It's crazy to me that the Quick Ball, already one of the best balls in the game out the gate due to its massive modifier and not being limited to specific pokemon, got a *buff* the following generation. 4x was big enough and they buffed it to *5* ???

[@Diwasho]

I wonder if Kurt's balls are always messed up on purpose. Well, maybe not originally in gen 2, but they have to be trolling with every iteration afterwards, right? It's like they're telling you to only trust Sylph Co. and big corpos to provide a reliable product for money instead of getting dubious and potentially faulty knockoffs from your local enthusiast ball makers for free.

[@completetechheads]

I always felt like the Gold, Silver and "Crystal" colors on the gen 4 pal park balls was a hint at the upcoming gen 2 remakes but it's probably just a coincidence :P

[@Cherry_coke_pop]

Also there’s the moon ball in gen 2 which may have been a slight hint towards crystal

[@Turtle-Soup]

Wouldn’t surprise if it was, given how they’ve hinted towards other games

[@enoyna1001]

​@@Cherry_coke_poplol how is that a connection?

[@7792pnaurfr]

Why?

[@completetechheads]

@@7792pnaurfr Well being at the end of the game, this was more the cherry on top of all the other references and hints we got like the Gyarados news report etc etc

[@predclown2012]

Another great video! The history of the Kurt Balls is crazy and its so strange how many mistakes happen with them even to this day!

[@Turtle-Soup]

Thanks! Part of me finds it funny that that specific set of balls always seem to be the trouble makers.

[@ArmundJay]

i try as hard as possible to catch/breed all my shinies in Premier balls; i just think it looks nice. other than that, my favorite ball has always been the Luxury ball.. the black, red, and gold is just *chef's kiss*

[@SigismundsWrath]

I'm similar: Pokemon with hidden abilities get premier balls, shinies get luxury balls, everything else goes in standard pokeballs 👍

[@SweetTaleTeller]

They updated the Parkballs game Art Work for Scarlet and Violet for SOME REASON so I’m kinda wondering if they are going to make it a useable ball at some point… because why make the icon… I know it exists I have the image in my PC and its a Scarlet Sprite so…. Why

[@samuellaakso7012]

The next thing they could do is to introduce more balls that give advantages for different types. We basically have 3(!) different balls to help catching Water-types. So what gives, where are other type-specific balls?

[@33pandagamer]

You can also find them randomly on the ground.

[@shrimpshufflr7745]

Find what?

[@Bones1220]

Pokeballs are a fashion statement

[@thelilartzy]

I like the way you says pokeball, it scratches a part of my brain in ways I cannot explain!!

[@GunnarWahl]

Me looking at my entire Pokédex in quickballs. I think this one might be my favorite

[@Sumguyinavan_]

How many people were personally victimized trying to use the Fast Balls on the legendary dogs in Gold/Silver? Not that I KNEW I was being screwed over when I was 14, since I just learned about this today.

[@thewritegrump]

This is the first time I've seen your channel, and I'm on board! This was a fascinating breakdown full of interesting information, with there being even some things that I didn't know about. I know your bio says you're not exclusively a Pokemon channel, but I'll definitely be looking forward to more Pokemon videos if you feel like making them! Until then, I'll go check out your other Pokemon videos. :^)

[@Turtle-Soup]

Thanks! The bio is more a disclaimer as I like making a wide variety of stuff, however I’m having a lot of fun with the Pokémon videos so they are definitely sticking around for the foreseeable future

[@kennethlastinger5116]

Shit, the algorithm has detected my hyperfixation on Pokémon! how did this happen!? *types vigorously feeding the algorith more Pokémon*

[@SpeedOfTheEarth]

In german, french and apparently korean it's also the Hyperball, in fact the Ultraball is the Beast Ball in english from gen7 afaik.

[@M_Alexander]

I love the Premier Ball. The white with a red stripe is so clean

[@tritone2276]

I like to think Kurt was secretly a con man, hence why half of the balls dont even work right, and a good chunk even then would only work on a few pokemon.

[@brianhull2407]

Excluding the Master Ball, Poké Ball (sort of), Sport Ball/Park Ball, Friend Ball, Lure Ball, and Heavy Ball (except in Crystal), every Poké Ball introduced in Gens I & II worked very oddly in the Gens they were introduced. In Gen I, because of how the catch formula worked (very oddly), nonvolatile status conditions (sleep, freeze, paralysis, poison, and burn) increased the catch rate of Pokémon by a flat amount based on the Poké Ball used and status condition (for sleeping or frozen Pokémon, it’s 25 out of 256 for Poké Balls, 25 out of 201 for Great Balls, and 25 out of 151 for Ultra Balls and Safari Balls; for the others, it’s 12 out of 256 for Poké Balls, 12 out of 201 for Great Balls, and 12 out of 151 for Ultra Balls and Safari Balls) rather than multiplicatively like in later generations. This causes Ultra Balls and Safari Balls to significantly overperform for Pokémon with low catch rates and status conditions or low HP (especially status conditions) but greatly underperform for perfectly healthy Pokémon and Pokémon with high catch rates, while the Great Ball vastly overperforms for Pokémon with high catch rates and against healthy Pokémon with low catch rates. (This means that the Safari Ball, which only in Gen I is coded to work like an Ultra Ball instead of a Great Ball, is the worst Poké Ball to use against the Pokémon in the Safari Zone as you cannot inflict status conditions or lower HP in the Safari Zone… but that’s the only Poké Ball you _can_ use in the Safari Zone, and that’s the only place Safari Balls can typically be used, which is a major reason why the Safari Zone is so terrible in those games.) In Gen II, in addition to the fact that paralysis, poison, and burn don’t affect the catch rate at all due to another error, several of the Apricorn Balls are improperly coded. The Fast Ball is supposed to have a 4× chance against Pokémon with a chance to flee, but due to a bug, it only does against the first three of them in the table: Magnemite, Grimer (why does _this_ Pokémon have a chance to flee, anyways?), and Tangela. The Level Ball works better against Pokémon with a lower level than yours, and it does, but due to an error, it ignores all other factors like HP and status conditions. The Love Ball is supposed to have an 8× multiplier when used on Pokémon of the same species but opposite gender of your current Pokémon, but it instead has an 8× multiplier when used on Pokémon of the same species and the _same_ gender as your current Pokémon, the exact opposite of how it’s supposed to work! The Heavy Ball works properly in Gold and Silver and for most Pokémon in Crystal, having increased odds against heavy Pokémon and reduced odds against lighter Pokémon (and it’s a flat increase or decrease, though intentionally so in this case). However, in Crystal, if used specifically against Kadabra, Tauros, and Subflora, instead of using their weights, the game looks at junk data instead that makes them appear to have massive weights, causing the Heavy Ball to work way better than it should on them. Finally, the Moon Ball is supposed to have a 4× multiplier when used on Pokémon that evolve by Moon Stone (which, in Gen II, would be Clefairy, Jigglypuff, Nidorina, and Nidorino), but because they changed the index numbers for several items (including the Moon Stone) when going from Gen I to Gen II but did not update the reference used for the Moon Ball’s code, it instead has a 4× multiplier only when used on Pokémon which evolve with a *Burn Heal* (which would be none of them). Of the new Balls in Gen II, only the Park/Sport Ball (which was basically just a fancy-looking Great Ball for use in (and only in) Bug-Catching Contests), Lure Ball (3× multiplier while fishing), and Friend Ball (1× multiplier (same as a regular Poké Ball), but sets the caught Pokémon’s friendship to 200 instead of the usual 70) work exactly as intended in all three Gen II games. (That said, the Lure Ball did have an error in Scarlet and Violet, which caused it to always have a 1× multiplier instead of the boosted 4× multiplier on Pokémon in or on water it was supposed to.) The Master Ball has also always worked exactly as intended, skipping all other checks and just guaranteeing the capture every single time. All of these would be fixed in later gens, but it is still crazy how broken they all were when first introduced.

[@Idkwhyimhere456]

4:36 honestly I think a Pokemon that evolves after being burned/frozen/paralayzed and then healed would be a cool concept, gaining the type it recovers from

[@kid14346]

One of my favorite Pokeball designs is from the early days of the franchise where the pokeballs were sort of see through so you can see the pokemon inside of it like the Gachapon capsules the game was designed after. This only appeared in some artwork or manga, but it honestly just looks so neat.

[@Xylus.]

Someone once told me that the master ball looked like it had Wario's speedo stretched over it, and now I can't unsee it, and now you all have to suffer that same fate with me.

[@dragnridr05]

I really want the Cherish ball as a regular pokeball, or even have a pokeball customization option in future games, so we can pick the look of the pokeball.

[@vexatiousfae7090]

Personally I really like the design of the luxury Ball.

[@magaz]

Take a shot every time he says “pokeball”

[@BlueBotBlues]

You know they're putting more effort in rn to ensure every pokeball is available in the game than they are ensuring every Pokémon is in the game lmao

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

Well tbf one of those is a WAY smaller task lol

[@WindowsXPFrog]

I remember being a kid playing gen 2 and realising that Kurt’s pokeballs didn’t seem to work like they said it did.

[@thestone8187]

Subbed and am going through the vids now. You’re pretty good at this

[@Toby0895]

I loved the video, Thanks for sharing my same feeling with the pokeballs

[@CabinetGremlin]

I think it's worth noting that since only the female pokemon can pass down its ball when bred, you couldn't get any of the newly introduced pokemon in newer balls since the female always decides the species of the baby. Ditto is the only case when this is bypassed, letting the male pass down its ball and species (which still isn't helpful in getting Kalos/Alola mons in Kurtballs)

[@Predated2]

What? You can get the male ball in standard breeding nowadays unless you breed cross species.

[@CabinetGremlin]

@@Predated2 whoops yeah, I was implying cross-species breeding. guess I didn't imply hard enough lol. the point is, you can't get a species in a ball that you can't already catch it in through breeding, which is a surprisingly common misconception

[@SargeWolf010]

Great Ball was originally called Super ball...

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

Customizable Poke Balls need to be a thing in the future

[@Turtle-Soup]

Ball seals are probably the closest we’ll get to that. Really wish that feature stuck around, was always a big fan of them.

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

@@Turtle-Soup Why not both? Seals were for the ignition animation, but we should be able to customize the outward appearance of the Ball too, that way we don't have to do all this breeding for Poke Balls, and they could throw in some of the anime designs and a few new ones too. Imagine having a black and blue Premier Ball, or a Poke Ball covered in lightning bolts or stars or stripes? Or with hearts on it? I imagine you probably wouldn't be able to customize the Master Ball/Park Ball/Strange Ball/Cherish Ball but the rest would be fair game.

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

@@Turtle-Soup It's cuz of Masuda's weird philosophy of keeping some features in one game only. Hopefully that stops with the new games now that he's not the main director anymore

[@dragnridr05]

The only design I would use is the Cherish Ball design but not in red, but purple.

[@T4N7]

Visually I love the Dusk Ball the most even tho the Master Ball is my fav colours. But mechanically I probably used the Net Ball the most other than standard Pokéballs or the Ultra Balls

[@EmmyPupcake]

Premier Ball is my favorite, there's just something about the minimalist aesthetic that I really love.

[@CrimsonThorne]

I've had consistently good luck with legendries when using the heal ball so it's become my favorite

[@Makkushimu]

The crafting your own PokeBalls was probably lifted from the Minecraft Pokemon mod lol

[@1004hp]

my favorite ball has to be either the love ball or the moon ball solely on how pretty the particle effects look when you send out a pokemon. a couple other favs would be the dream call and the heal ball.

[@sneauxday7002]

i LOVE the outrage at apricorn balls

[@korrinthian]

I love the luxury Ball visually, but my fave is the Quick ball. Really helpful for end game collecting and breeding.

[@joltsterk4673]

Minor note: The Dream Ball is the ball that all Pokemon caught in Dream Radar will be in upon transfer to BW2.

[@machinat3636]

I have a habit of using premier balls early game for low encounter rate pokemon to make em extra special, this is to say I've caught many a ralts and a few abra in em over my various replays of gens 3 and 4

[@NikkiNighteye]

Net Ball is so underrated, absolutely my favourite Pokeball

[@7792pnaurfr]

How is it underrated?

[@remlezar4439]

un-obtaina-ball

[@kingawsume]

Premier ball for me. Minimalism is my favorite design language, and "all white with only a stripe of red" is about as minimal as you can make a Pokeball.

[@lescobar195]

Moon balls should've had an increased chance of catching pokemon at night.

[@eduardog3000]

I'm sure I'm not the only one that color coordinates the balls with the pokemon in them. Umbreon and the Ultra Ball go so perfectly together. Uxie, Azelf, and Mespirit fit pretty well with the Ultra, Poke, and Great balls respectively which is pleasing (other than their order in the pokedex being different from the order of the balls they match).

[@LinkAlmeida]

Ball names INT vs JP (many share names) Poké Ball - Monster Ball Great Ball - Super Ball Ultra Ball - Hyper Ball Master Ball Safari Ball Fast Ball - Speed Ball Level Ball Lure Ball Heavy Ball Love Ball - Lovey-Dovey Ball Friend Ball Moon Ball Sport Ball - Compé Ball (Park Ball in GEN2 INT) Net Ball Dive Ball Nest Ball Repeat Ball Timer Ball Luxury Ball - Gorgeous Ball Premier Ball Dusk Ball - Dark Ball Heal Ball Quick Ball Cherish Ball - Precious Ball Park Ball Dream Ball Beast Ball - Ultra Ball Strange Ball Feather Ball Wing Ball Jet Ball Leaden Ball - Megaton Ball Gigaton Ball Origin Ball

[@alex_zetsu]

Awww I was hoping this video would be a story of Pokeball lore in-universe

[@Arcadia_warlic]

The Bug Catching contest balls described in the video are from the anime and manga. In the games it never had a full design until Generation IV. The Love Ball's glitch is actually 8x specifically only against the same species and gender, not just gender.

[@Turtle-Soup]

Yeah, it was quite a grey area type of situation when it came to that one. However due to it being included in the games, and especially since it was changed from being called the park ball to the sport ball, figured it was best to talk about it, and took the design from the other mediums of the franchise, as describing it as just some non detailed ball wouldn’t be as good or interesting content wise. As per my research, the love ball always works exclusively for wild Pokémon that are the same species as your active Pokémon

[@gusty7153]

fast ball existed specifically for the three mobile legendaries that always tried to flee

[@StrAnGErous420]

Mildly insane after hearing "poke•ball" and "poke•mon" a hundred times.

[@hanss6983]

17:32 and you know what else is massive? LOWWW TAPER FADEEE