Pokémon Forms are Weird

[@Missiletainn]

Burmy's type doesn't change with it's form, it is always Mono Bug, it only affects the type it becomes when it evolves.

[@Turtle-Soup]

You’re right, I foolishly assumed it applied to both, and didn’t double check.

[@bigsalmon7973]

​@@Turtle-Soup don't feel bad i up until very recently also assumed burny got the other typings. I wanna say I was playing legends arceus when I found this out.

[@Burmy_The_Wormy]

@Turtle-Soup calling my kind "weird" is the reason mankind will CRUMBLE!

[@TrueVerdeth]

poor spinda, forgotten with all its 4,2m forms (patterns)

[@Fliteska]

Isn't it 4.2b?

[@TrueVerdeth]

@@Fliteska yeah you are right, my bad

[@barmanitan]

Adef would never

[@Faniwa828]

I feel like the main reason they haven't been in a game since Gen 8 was because of BDSP messing up their patterns.

[@olidblak2598]

duuude first thing i thought of after gen 4 started

[@Bluethymestrategy]

I don't know if anyone has added this footnote, but Wishiwashi's ability does not activate if it lower than level 20. That's why the Totem Wishiwashi in SM is level 20!

[@ObsidianSnake12]

That explains a lot lmao

[@mertensiam3384]

Oohhh that makes sense

[@JasperDStar]

Didn't know that... never used Wishiwashi before

[@SandwitchZebra]

Believe it or not, Partner Pikachu and Eevee are actually considered forms in the data (they have separate internal index numbers from the regular species like other permanent forms). The main difference is that they obviously can’t evolve, but they also have higher base stats, different models (both are more detailed, especially Eevee, and they are different sizes), and Eevee even has a different gender ratio (Eevee’s gender difference was also exclusive to Partner Eevee before Gen VIII gave it to every Eevee). Not even considering all the unique partner stuff they can do. To be fair, though, it’s more of a trivia bit than an actual Pokemon form, especially since these forms will never leave their games and you have to dig into code to even find this out.

[@Turtle-Soup]

I can’t recall if I ever knew this at one point, so thank you for sharing this!

[@jonnycomstock7958]

Arent the dress up pikachus also forms and genesect

[@jvbon646]

They still count as Alt Forms, just the same way Greninja only got access to Torrent/Protean, while Battle Bond is exclusive to a different Form of Greninja

[@Faniwa828]

​@@jonnycomstock7958Yeah. They have different tails

[@ionlycreatedthissothatican6859]

​@@Turtle-SoupYou also forgot Contest Pikachu which all has different looks and a new move

[@daicebomb]

I still wish a sand Castform appeared. I know its not a standard weather like rain, hail, sun. But I still think its close enough to weather to exist in a video game.

[@Turtle-Soup]

Always felt weird that there wasn’t a form for sandstorms

[@Br0oham]

It would make sense especially considering since its introduction generation, Weather Ball has a rock type version in Sandstorm

[@MarshallLeeA]

If they can make Alolan Exeggutor a dragon type for being based on dragon fruit, they can make a sandstorm Castform because it has the word "storm" in it!

[@aodhanmonaghan1268]

​@MarshallLeeA Though I've always wanted Sandstorm Castform, going by English translations of things isn't usually useful. What often happens with Pokémon, especially pre gen 7, was they made the game primarily for a Japanese audience, Japanese cultural stories and norms and idioms etc. Later when these are translated to an English, it..... doesn't go so well. A number of Abilities boost things like bomb or wind Abilities, based on Japanese names of moves. Meaning that some moves without that name in English are included, and with that name are excluded. It's why we have female Mr Mime (Japanese didn't say it was male only), its why non-water Hoppip etc learn splash (badly translated from Hop in Japanese). It's also why Wynaut convos aren't as funny (imagine Wobbuffet instead called Beakoz) Why not Because Why not Because etc

[@braidonsaelens5174]

@@aodhanmonaghan1268My personal favorite example of this is Population Bomb being a cutting move.

[@doosty786]

Pardon me if I missed it in the video, but Xerneas has two forms. Active Form is used while in battle and switches to Neutral Form when not in battle. All Active Form does is change it's silver details to gold (horns, knee armor things), as well as light up the RGBs.

[@Turtle-Soup]

You’re right, I totally missed xerneas. It’s just one of those weirdly niche things you tend to forget when you focus more on the collecting than the battling part of the series.

[@dimetrodon2250]

I feel like Neutral form only exists to make it look less interesting in Pokemon Amie/Refresh. Also why does it even count as a different form? The Urshifus have a different stance outside of battle that makes them look identical, the Typhlosion line's flames only pop out in battle, Honedge and Doublade unsheath in battle, and the Wigglett line.... become aroused... in battle. Why arent those separate forms? What about Activated Zekrom, Reshiram, or B/W Kyurem? Or Zenith Marshadow? Or Radiant Sunne/Full Moone Solgaleo and Lunala? Or Behemoth Blade/Bash Zacian/Zamazeta? Why don't those count as official alt forms but the RGB Deer in Power Save mode is considered to be its own form?

[@mertensiam3384]

​@@dimetrodon2250 Urshifu, Solgaleo, Lunala, Marshadow, Zamazenta and Zacian are animations, they aren't considered different forms in the game's code. The same with Reshiram and Zekrom. Fused Kyurem I think is a different form...? But Xerneas IS a different form. It follows the same logic as other battle-only aesthetic changes not dependant on the animation.

[@jvbon646]

​@@dimetrodon2250 Even outside battle, Urshifu don't look the same. Their fur is different depending on their Form. As for Xerneas, yeah, RGB-on form being recognized as an Alt Form different from the RGB-off is just stupid. It's more like a state were it powers up, similar to the Tao Trio's Overdrive Form, Radiant Sunne and Full Moone. Those other "Forms" were recognized as such in the websites, promos, and such, so either they should all get in the Dex or Xerneas's should get chopped out. But then again, Dex has been consistently been getting worse each Gen so it's not like it matter much. Just a matter of time before they delete it out of new gamea so as to force you to use HOME's NatDex insteas

[@madnessarcade7447]

4:39 “ the queen of alternate forms” Spinda: am I a joke to u

[@someonehavinganidentitycrisis]

Human beings

[@whatamidoinghere9775]

You missed Genesect! The drive that it's holding is shown on its sprite/model and changes the type of techno blast, so they do count as different forms. Specifically, it has its burn, shock, douse, and chill drive forms, alongside its normal form.

[@Turtle-Soup]

I did! Surprised I didn’t think of it when doing arceus and silvally.

[@JohnJohnson100]

Funny thing is in the video when you said comment your favorite forms down below I remembered Genesect drive forms exist and yet didn’t notice you miss them lol

[@Missiletainn]

Cherrim's stats changing with it's forms is ONLY in Legends arceus, in all other games it is in, it is purely an aesthetic representation of it's ability activating, which raise Attack and Special **Defense** (you said Special Attack in the video) of both Cherrim and its ally if in a double battle via an invisible buff.

[@l.t.c3847]

Cherrim seems so strange. It’s almost like it was designed specifically as a Groupon partner in a single restricted format (helps cover the water weakness, patches up its lower bulk stat, super charges it’s already sky high attack while having good support moves), about a decade and a half before that was ever a thing. Groudon was the only drought setter in gen 4, and almost all of the other mons that want sun up are SPECIAL attackers, genuinely what were they cooking with that thing?

[@jolkert]

​@@l.t.c3847 i mean drought isn't the only way to set sun lol. sunny day is right there

[@TrevorJuve]

Some notes: Furfrou actually can keep its special trim while boxed and maintain it indefinitely in one way. Any Furfrou caught in Pokemon Go that has its trim changed in Pokemon Go and is then sent to Pokemon Home will maintain whatever trim it was transferred in! No clue if it still expires over time while not boxed though, but while in Home it will maintain that form. While not usable by the player, there is also Eternal Flower Floette. If Arceus and Silvally count as form changes, then Genesect's different drives may count as well. Otherwise, it's as others said. Spinda, Xerneas, Spiky-Eared Pichu, etc. Honorable mentions go to shinies, regional forms, regional "technically different Pokemon", and Paradox Pokemon, which are all things that probably count but are definitely not what this video is meant to be about.

[@Turtle-Soup]

Yeah, really hoping legends z-a allows us to get our own furfrou forms so I can swap the ones I have out with ones with my own OT And you’re absolutely right with genesect, totally should’ve added it!

[@traviskeene91]

Squirtle living his best life having an adventure in the background 😭

[@kevinaguirre3666]

Zygarde is a weird case because it technically has 7 forms, if you count the Core and Cells, (8 if you count the anime second core). Since 10% and 50% have to use the Zygarde Cube to change abilities internally Zygarde has 5 usable forms, 10% Aura Break, 10% Power Construct, 50% Aura Break, 50% Power Construct and Complete.

[@croma3375]

Exactly. Together with Mothim, Scatterbug, Spewpa, Greninja and Rockruff, Zygarde is in the indistinguishable forms group.

[@kevinaguirre3666]

@@croma3375 Should Wurmple, Tandemaus, Dunsparce and Toxel count as invisible, it's not like their evolutions could be chosen.

[@croma3375]

@@kevinaguirre3666 i don't think so, in the data they have just one form: their evolution is based on their personality value (Wurmple, Dunsparce, Tandemaus), or on the nature, in Toxel's case. For this reason they don't need separate forms. Good question though, it's like they got their evolution already decided in their DNA, too.

[@ShayTheValiant]

Ah yes, Cornerstone Mask Ogerpon, a Grass and "Stone" type.

[@Turtle-Soup]

I can’t believe I made that blunder! Might be my first time calling it the stone type lmao

[@Nameless_mixes]

Everyone’s listing off different mons that were forgotten and I’m just wondering if Combee should count since only the female one can evolve into Vespiquen? Overall, great job! I know there was a LOT to cover here and some things were either missed or not 100% accurate. But hey, I think it means you have the opportunity at a later date to remake this vid with all the corrections! My advice would be to try and go in dex order ‘cause even thinking about it right now, there’s also Eternatus and potentially Kecleon if you consider the purple version as a different form. But anyways, great job and keep it up!

[@thedancingsousa]

No love for spinda?

[@Faniwa828]

Fun fact: Coincidentally, due to a glitch, in Gen 2, only the "I" and "V" forms of Unown could naturally be Shiny.

[@DogOfWar64]

Castform should have got a rock sandstorm form

[@pokehunterhd]

4:39 those yellow eyes are staring into my soul.

[@voliol8070]

Nice video overview! I appreciate that you mentioned some internal formes that the player might not immediately recognize as such. It's a nice touch! Oh and has anyone mentioned Cosplay Pikachu from ORAS yet?

[@homestuck_official]

2:40 And there's also the deleted form that's still present in the code, the eternal flower form

[@homestuck_official]

4:05 And there's also the shiny, which is its own color scheme with no variations of its own

[@homestuck_official]

Damn you didn't say anything of note this was just a recap of the forms. I'm not necessarily against it but you should change the title

[@kodyfulton7641]

Do more of these. Im doing a full living dex with all forms and it helps so much watching these videos to give me new motivation

[@Turtle-Soup]

I’m glad they can be of service!

[@RCJones560]

Fun fact, if I remember correctly, due to Gen 2's programming, the form of unown actually does affect the shiny rates of each letter. Sometimes it makes it much easier, and other times it can actually make itmuch harder

[@robertlupa8273]

IIRC the only letters that can be shiny are I and V.

[@YOM2_UB]

In Gen 2, only I and V are possible to appear shiny (fittingly, with how shininess was determined). It's Gen 3 that gets particularly wonky. First off, the form is determined by 8 bits of the personality value (forming a number between 0 and 255), which is not evenly divisible by 28. Regardless of being shiny or not, in Gen 3 the A, B, C, and D forms have a 10/256 chance to appear, while the other 24 forms have a 9/256 chance to appear. No matter what, the chance that a random Unown is shiny in Gen 3 is 1/8192, but the weirdness comes in with the odds of a shiny being a particular form. There are four categories to consider, depending on your Trainer ID and Secret ID, in particular depending on if the 9th and 10th bits match or differ between the two IDs. A, B, C, D : 4/64 if both bits match, 2/64 in all other categories E, F, G, H, Y, Z, !, ? : 3/64 if only the 10th bits match, 2/64 in all other categories I, J, K, L, U, V, W, X : 1/64 if both bits match, 2/64 if neither bits match, 3/64 in both other categories M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T : 1/64 in only the 10th bits match, 2/64 if only the 9th bits match, 3/64 in both other categories Using Bayes' Theorem and the above information, the odds of a particular form being shiny in each ID category are: A, B, C, D : 1/5120 if both bits match, 1/10240 in all other categories E, F, G, H, Y, Z, !, ? : 1/6144 if only the 10th bits match, 1/9216 in all other categories I, J, K, L, U, V, W, X : 1/18432 if both bits match, 1/9216 if neither match, and 1/6144 in both other categories M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T : 1/18432 if only the 10th bits match, 1/9216 if only the 9th bits match, and 1/6144 in both other categories

[@robertlupa8273]

@@YOM2_UB So if you're really unlucky, about half the letters can have way worse odds than usual.

[@adamholt929]

The gen 9 box legendaries also have 2 forms

[@Turtle-Soup]

Darn, I totally forgot about them! Surprised given how much time I’ve spent with them

[@nullanix]

technically 5 but they're not considered forms in the game files

[@slapchop1604]

Sun and moon also has some goofy ahh cosmetic battle only forms akin to xerneas in the forms of solgaleo's radiant sun and lunala's full moon forms which happens during their signature attacks as well as marshadow's zenith form when I believe it attacks at all.

[@belodie]

I believe Ogerpon's Terrastalised formes count separately, rather than as just tera'd versions of her regular formes, due to her getting a new ability in this state (Embody Aspect - apparently each forme has a unique ability with the same name)

[@laggianput]

Shoutouts to the fact that dusk form lycanroc (and by extension, own tempo rockruff) and battle bond greninja being considered their own form in the code, seemingly to dissuade hacking (pro tip, change the hex 0x1d to 09 or higher to get it to work, i know from experience)

[@kayla_eevee]

This is so helpful! For some reason, I decided I wanted to completely rearrange the National Pokédex in an order that keeps evolutionary lines intact and only includes forms available in the base games. So Cosplay Pikachu and its 5 forms get entries but the 8 "Pikachu in a Cap" forms don't since those were only ever available as event distributions. One of the hardest decisions has been which forms to give unique numbers and which to drop. I'm trying to give each unique Dex entry its own number (so Megas, Gigantamax forms, and regional variants would get their own individual entries) but even that leads to some frustrating inconsistencies. Silvally, Arceus, Alcremie, and Vivillon are my biggest points of contention right now. Silvally has 2 different Dex entries (one for the Normal form and another for all other forms) but Arceus only has one, despite having just as many alternate forms. Meanwhile, Alcremie, while technically having 63 possible combinations of flavor and sweet, only has Dex entries for each of the flavors and even then, the difference is only 1 or 2 words. Same with Vivillon and its 20 forms. So do I give each of them their own number or should they all share a number with a letter to distinguish them? And on a mostly unrelated note, this whole project has led me to despise Victini. It belongs at the end of the generation with all the other Mythicals and Legendaries, not up before the starters! I ended up booting it to the very end of the Gen V Dex out of pure spite instead of just putting it after Samurott.

[@FleurXedas]

Spikey eared pichu? Bloodmoon ursaluna?

[@Turtle-Soup]

Spiky eared pichu is a whole weird can of beans, definitely should’ve been here tho. Same with bloodmoon, honestly just forgot about it.

[@DanielisAwesome52]

Oricorio would've been better as a permanent Form, they lack literally any coverage moves of their form's type besides Revelation Dance so having set forms and different learnsets would've been much better in the long run.

[@Turtle-Soup]

I agree, I find them being able to change form really weird. The possibilities, like you brought up, if they were hard separated would really help them stand out more!

[@alphie1765]

Xerneas says hi (it has the worst form change)

[@VerdantRange]

You said Cramorant's form with Pikachu in its mouth is "Gouging form". However, it's actually its "Gorging" form.

[@Turtle-Soup]

Whoops, I totally just misread that and didn’t catch it lmao

[@indigo...]

idk if this counts as a form, but the pokedex says Lokix has a 'showdown mode' that it uses

[@dimetrodon2250]

You missed: Partner Pikachu/Eevee, Cosplay Pikachu, the Cap Pikachus, Spiky Eared Pichu, Dada Zarude, Neutral mode Xerneas, the elemental Drives for Genesect, Ogerpon's unique Terastal forms (not listed in Pokemon HOME for some reason unlike Terapagos), the thousands of possible Spinda forms, and the Totem Pokemon you get as rewards for the sticker hunt in USUM. If you wanted to include Pokemon the player can battle but not obtain, there are: the special Ghost Marrowack from RBY/FRLG/LGPLGE, the Smeargle with a bow tie in Pokestar Studios, the Totem Hakkamo-o from the Sun and Moon demo (its not even a sticker reward), Eternamax Eternatus (I guess you covered it under the footnote for Megas/Primals/G-Max), the shadowy Giratina in BDSP, and the Starmobiles. There is also the Eternal Flower Floette who's sprite was spotted in a datamine in Pokemon HOME a while back. If you want to include non-Pokemon that you can battle, there are the Ghost Illusions from before you get the Silph Scope in the Kanto games, and the Pokestar Studios Green-Screen props that become the Special Effects. There's also Shadow Lugia and the non-transferrable costume/event Pokemon in Pokemon Go.

[@barmanitan]

Saying thousands of Spindas is technically correct but slightly underselling it haha

[@cecijayx]

i know full well i did not hear “baile style” pronounced like “bale style”

[@Turtle-Soup]

I looked up how to pronounce it and that’s was what the result was. This singular form is my only proper interaction with the word.

[@cecijayx]

@@Turtle-Soup ohh okay. yeah “baile” is the spanish word for dance and baile style oricorio is based on flamanco style dancing. it’s pronounced “bye-leh”

[@Turtle-Soup]

Interesting! Thanks for letting me know, if I ever have to talk about oricorio again, I’ll be able to do so even more properly.

[@MontgomeryGator2]

How DARE you forget Dada Zarude

[@chahinebourenane6291]

Haha true XD

[@gibsonreid9929]

I feel like the pokemon contest pikachu from oras should've been on the list unless I missed it some how

[@Turtle-Soup]

Yeah, in hindsight I should’ve added cosplay pikachu, alongside the likes of the ash hat pikachu.

[@AdeptCharon]

"The differences between East Sea and West Sea Gastrodon are solely visual" Actually, East Sea Gastrodon enjoys rain, while West Sea Gastrodon is racist and eats sand for nourishment (this is a joke, but also a real reference to the Legends:Arceus Dex entries)

[@MinMaxist]

Idk if this counts as forms or not but excluding Spinda hurt my soul, just a little bit.

[@Turtle-Soup]

Going by all these comments, I’ve done a grave disservice to spinda. I will have to make it up to them in one way or another.

[@hamburgerbroz6439]

@@Turtle-Soup Spinda pattern comprehensive tierlist 😁👍

[@guillotine1930]

You pronouncing Oricorios Baile form as “bail” is killing me lmao

[@CaptainObliviousV]

My favorite of the permanent forms is probably the Tauros breeds, not because they’re awesome (though they are), but because their introduction brings a lot of potential for future regional variants. I figured regional evolutions would be the extent of their iterations of the concept, but I’m definitely glad to be proven wrong; convergent species are also a nice little sister concept that I quite enjoy as well. In regards to anything missed, Ogerpon has different forms when terastalized. The masks grow bigger and gain an energy-like plumage. Its ability also changes to Embody Aspect, which grants it a different stat boost depending on the specific mask: Grass/Speed, Fire/Attack, Water/Sp.Def, Rock/Defense.

[@Turtle-Soup]

Yeah I love paldean tauros! Think it’s a great evolution of the regional concept! Also, completely forgot about the terastalized forms for ogerpon, which is a little embarrassing after remembering the forms of terapagos

[@ChampionTyson-wl2yk]

am i the only one who questioned why miltank and Tauros used to be always grouped in the alola dex as the same species but miltank is nowhere to be seen in gen 9? ​@@Turtle-Soup

[@scorchite]

This might be outside the scope of the video, but shadow Lugia and Primal Dialga are two alternate forms that appear in spin-offs. There might be more, but those are the two I can think of off the top of my head.

[@Turtle-Soup]

I thought about primal dialga, but decided against it due to factors such as being spin off only I’ll most likely be talking about shadow lugia in another video sooner than later

[@LoyalistViral]

Why mention the fact Squakabilly can have different abilities based on the colour but not name the abilities

[@Turtle-Soup]

Unfortunately, that’s just one of those things I happen to overlook when in the scripting process and then don’t catch in the editing. You’re right though, I absolutely should’ve named the abilities.

[@kamensentai9286]

A Pokédex entry says there are rare 3 headed Weezing out there too

[@whitefox411-gamer7]

Xerneas has a literal in battle and out of battle form. Out of battle its horns points are all blue, and in battle each horny point is a different color.

[@thekoifishcoyote8762]

Ogrepon also has a different tera type from each mask, and they also boost different stats.

[@StaraptorEagle]

Silvally and Sensu Oricorio are my favourite Pokémon forms!

[@hipstersephiroth3722]

Thank you being so kind all mighty loving God help me and these people become more like u

[@jamesrobson8308]

Castform is great I love it

[@pathetixstudioz2609]

Misread the thumbnail as weed forms

[@NotlostMoon]

Personally totem Wishiwashi is my favorite totem pokemon thematically, because Wishiwashi schoolform is an innately big threat. Some of the other totems seemed a bit silly to me when I played it.

[@bigsalmon7973]

This is very niche, so i don't blame you at all for not includung it, but pichu has a unique form in pokemon heartgold / soul silver, that being the spikey eared pichu. It cannont evolve and from what i know is just aesthetic. It's most recent appearance was a costume alt in super smash bros ultimate. (That may be it's only other appearance 😆) Also kind of off topic, coming from your last video i can tell you've been working on, and audibly improved at talking a bit slower like so many (me included) commented, on the pokeball video. So just wanted you to know, we can tell and you're getting better 👍.

[@Turtle-Soup]

Yeah, spiky eared pichu is a really special one, and it just slipped past when gathering my list of forms. And thank you for the kind words!

[@bigsalmon7973]

@@Turtle-Soup of course man. I can see you're trying to grow the channel so wanna help with like motivation and such

[@xuqy1337]

Spinda? 😢

[@Turtle-Soup]

I should’ve added a footnote for spinda, probably alongside the gender variations. Completely forgot about it as my main basis for the forms is from constructing my living dex, and spinda is exempt from that due to the sheer impossibility.

[@alexdelaney962]

Love the shade you threw at fan form rotom

[@molamola9723]

I dunno if anyone mentioned this but you missed the Partner Cap Pikachu forms from USUM and the Cosplay Pikachu forms from ORAS.

[@dylandalessio593]

Koraidon and miraidon actually have different forms whether it’s in its bike form or on two legs/using leg jets (koraidon has limited build and apex build and miraidon has low power mode and ultimate mode)

[@cynthiasoolihua2410]

another great video Big blast!

[@Turtle-Soup]

Thank you!

[@ionlycreatedthissothatican6859]

You forgot Contest Pikachu which all has different looks and a new move

[@macblackledge6121]

Does Ursaluna count with it's Blood Moon form?

[@Turtle-Soup]

It totally does! I completely forgot about blood moon form existed, to be completely honest

[@watermarkthehero9289]

My favorite Pokemon with different forms is Oricorio.

[@DestinyHeroShademan]

Regional variants are technically a permanent form change

[@Bludvarg]

And then there's Xerneas and its pointless inactive form. Just why

[@Turtle-Soup]

So pointless I continually forget it exists a majority of the time lmao.

[@madnessarcade7447]

I find it odd that gastrodon doesn’t have a North Sea and south sea form

[@plazmurr]

8:47 Cherrim and it's allies get an attack and Sp. Def boost, not Sp. Atk

[@TreFKennedy]

Black Kyurem for the W

[@FantasticMoist]

What about the spikey eared pichu?

[@EwanMacDonald-gk1hp]

When/if ever do you think the non permanent forms will be available in HOME?

[@dereksavage420]

Erm actually you forgot the pokéstar studio smeargle from pokemon black and white 2

[@RockyThe3rd]

Would you consider blood moon ursaluna in this?

[@Turtle-Soup]

I would, I just genuinely forgot about it, embarrassingly enough!

[@RockyThe3rd]

@@Turtle-Soup :0 shame but understandable XD great breakdown btw

[@florianstuder3128]

very good video

[@Turtle-Soup]

Thank you!

[@ggnobob9]

Sick video

[@xboxpro360]

did you mention shiny forms at all?

[@Turtle-Soup]

I did not, shiny alcremie does make an appearance though!

[@jessst3r926]

What About The Tera Forms Of Each Ogerpon? If It Counts For The Turtle It Should Count For The Best Girl

[@MikeandTheMistakes]

Toxtricity is my #1

[@maganhassan2627]

Ash greninja unfortunately removed as of gen 9

[@meta4knight]

What’s the deal with xerneas having a battle mode/forme

[@ElPikminMaster]

What a coincidence. I was talking to my Discord group about 100% Pokemon HOME) earlier this morning about Pokemon forms.

[@sonicover]

If you wan't to be thecnicall all pokemon have permanent different forms: Their shiny forms. Also if the origin forms of the matter trio are moentioned, both Primal Kyogre and Groudon should be mentioned. And Spinda. Spinda it's a beast of its own

[@Turtle-Soup]

If you wanted to be technical, I guess you could say the shinies count. For the primal reversions, I mention it in the footnote alongside the megas as I personally view them as glorified megas, more or less. Thinking they should’ve been mentioned proper is totally valid though. And for spinda, it is indeed a beast of its own, and a total nightmare for collectors like me.

[@madnessarcade7447]

Are you counting evolved forms as separate forms

[@2shy2guy52]

Is that a nose or mouth on flabebe

[@meta4knight]

I tried I put celebi in s/v and it wouldn’t let me

[@Turtle-Soup]

Does the celebi happen to be from GO? If it is, I believe you’d need to obtain a celebi from somewhere other than GO and deposit it first.

[@croma3375]

Celebi can't reach Paldea, it's not in the data.

[@meta4knight]

@@croma3375 I saw it in the video but that might have been swsh gameplay

[@croma3375]

@@meta4knight Indeed it was.

[@matheusbuonani]

You forgot cosplay Pikachu

[@reasanka8667]

you forgot Uno and all its form

[@brutalnobody5240]

Honestly forgot 5:46 even existed

[@CrestFallenManx]

Great video. You kinda talk fast and sometimes the transition from pokemon to pokemon can be a bit jarring.

[@Turtle-Soup]

Thanks! And yeah, it’s all been a learning process with the speed at which I talk and how I edit, hope to get a bit better at it each time

[@kawaii801]

What about Pokémon weird forms yay or nay?

[@Faniwa828]

Wow. You mentioned Dialga's Origin form but not it's superior Primal form?? Smh (/j)

[@timaeustanis359]

18:18 Oreecoreeo 💀💀💀💀💀

[@OgerponIsACutie]

you pronounce it like oreyecoreyeo or something?

[@BrawlMrtis]

Dundunsparce is 1/25

[@raleo7466]

Nice video! Isn't Darmanitan a form pokemon too with it's zen mode?

[@barmanitan]

It's in the video at 8:50 It's always funny talking about Darmanitan for me haha

[@Toby0895]

KZbin wont let me sub lol

[@BlueDavrial]

Good video. Very comprehensive, good work. You pronounce some pokemon names wrong tho. Most are fine and can be just differences in dialect, but Oricorio was notably significantly off. You pronounced it "Or-e-co-rio", the ending being the part that's most off. It's actually pronounced "Or-e-core-io" Unrelated, god i hate Calirex. Such a lazy design. Why does it just mount other pokemon why is that considered one pokemon. And its base design is dumb to boot.

[@Turtle-Soup]

Thank you! For the pronunciations, I haven’t really partaken in parts of the franchise that has actual voice acting since the Gen 5 era, so they ultimately end up being just how I’ve interpreted it from reading or have picked up from others.

[@codm22712]

Hello

[@Turtle-Soup]

Hi!

[@notimestwo]

You forgot Cherrim 😭 they have different forms per weather or if it’s day or night

[@Hazel776FE]

Ogerpon so cute :)

[@graytiamat]

Ogerpon has a gender. She's 100% female.

[@Hazel776FE]

@@graytiamat WHAT this is news to me I apologize for my stupidity I saw legendary pokemon and thought genderless I am an idiot forgive me

[@Turtle-Soup]

I agree! Really love how they handled her character and story in the teal mask!

[@croma3375]

​@@graytiamat *It's female.

[@graytiamat]

@@croma3375 I'll repeat my statement. Ogerpon is one of several legendaries that actually has an in-game assigned gender, joining the likes of Latias (female), Latios (male), Heatran (50/50), Cresselia (female), and possibly some others that I'm missing. The original comment, before being edited, was about liking that people refer to Ogerpon with female pronouns because the original commenter didn't realize that Ogerpon was one of the legendaries with a gender.

[@waitwhat9939]

Bro slow down

[@TamboFields7822]

You just need to speed up

[@jordantatata155]

Tauros isnt version exlusive just 1 is more common in one version than the other

[@essurio]

I always forget that Ogrepon is a girl, and that the ”Loyal” Three are boys.

[@angelic428]

Vivillon? Viveon is crazy, there’s some L’s in there bro 😭

[@plazmurr]

Both are silent

[@barmanitan]

It comes from the French for butterfly papillon which is also pretty much like papeon (also also my dog is a papillon haha, named for their ears)