POLICE Are Now Using E-BIKES... But Why?

In this video I discuss a number of reasons why I think the police are now starting to use surron ultra bee's in some of the big UK cities.
After seeing videos of Police forces now using these E-Bikes it left me with a number of questions and in this video I talk about the answers that I could think of.
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[@HowieMP1522]

US special forces are starting to use Surrons as well. I wouldn't be surprised if the SAS started using them as well.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

They’re such good vehicles for so many reasons that it wouldn’t surprise me if they did either!! They can only progress from here too, looking forward to what the future brings with the surron and other e bikes! 🔋⚡️

[@therealavolpe]

Ukranian spec ops use them

[@Rxndomjay]

@@mattfrancisofficialfunny police is using those when stealth bombers has already been deemed better and faster and more powerful

[@user-pq4by2rq9y]

@@therealavolpe Ukranians have their own domestic version, the Eleek Atom, it comes with pedals for range.

[@user-pq4by2rq9y]

@@mattfrancisofficial They have good reasons to use them. You are giving them the ability to traverse much longer distances for not that much weight and without a need of a dedicated fuel supply (or roads). Surrons are already quiet but belt driven ones are about as quiet as a hub motor.

[@FlyingFun.]

As for gangs pinching bikes when you are out and about, I think the canal path is one of the worst places to ride for that, A few kids had their bikes stolen and got a beating on the canal path around here, the other week I was riding my ebike on it and a bunch of teen lads stood in my way asking for the time, I shook my head and went full speed at them and they got out of the way but I know what would have happened if Id stopped, If they had stood their ground it would have been messy though but I figured Id get hurt either way so just went for it.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

That sounds awful!! I definitely see your point, fortunately i dont live in an area where this would be a problem.

[@EMTBonsai]

Yeah it's shit man I just got my first emtb im scared to go out on it just because of this!

[@martinphilip8998]

It’s disheartening to hear about the gangs using these. I lived in England when it was Mods “against” Rockers. They weren’t out to commit property crimes, just out dress each other.

[@russellzauner]

There are plenty of US gangs using them. It was only logical to assume that there would be rapid adoption for those who want to be less noticeable but still have good travel speeds; the fast sneak.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Its a shame but was inevitable that they would with the advantage it would give them, pro’s and cons to everything 🤷🏻‍♂️🔋⚡️

[@the.communist]

Life is now tougher than in the 60s

[@publicenemy33]

The UK is done out 😂 knives get pulled on you wanting your bike, cars knock you off your bike and then ontop of all that you have to get away from the police 😂

[@WH05DAT]

@@publicenemy33 told no lie

[@Sur-Ron]

I've had my road legal for 2 years. I ride around London and in that time I've only been stopped once (about a month ago) and that was because they thought I had fake plates and assumed I would have just run. They only wanted to check out the bike and check I was legit. They told me they were getting them to target the gangs that are using them to rob people in the city (people nicking watches etc). My insurance ran out last week and not planning to renue it, I'll probably sell the Sur-Ron soon or keep it just to do some off-roading on my days off. I just got a GSX R125 coz I'll get more use out of it then I would the Sur-Ron coz of the range and the fact that I can't really use it in the rain. Also I can't leave it anywhere!!! Ever! It'll just get stolen.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Yeah making it road legal is the best way and I’m surprised you only got pulled over once! Thats good going. You can use the surron in the rain it will handle it just fine. A GSX R125 sounds a lot cooler and i bet thats a beast of a ride! Definitely pro’s and cons to each bike though. Ride safe and enjoy!🔋⚡️

[@kevindarkstar]

These things always have the negative of range, which a 125 which is capable of doing over 100 miles per gallon, which open up a lot more riding range and a 3 minutes fill up 😉

[@saudade2745]

May I ask what was the cost of the insurance?

[@Sur-Ron]

@@saudade2745 £800 fully comprehensive for the year. With only 1 years no claims.

[@jimbossimrigs7961]

I think what we need to start seeing is far more content where we can legitimately take our Surron/eBike (perhaps intially in the back of our cars), get it out and have a blast around (private land/permission given/welcoming/places that authorise/allow it). There has to be loads of places in the UK that enable this. Lets start seeing some 'allowed eRide locations'.. Image if there was a UK wide map of areas. I would happily even pay a couple of quid each time for parking If had a blast. Much like the popularity of pedal power MTB locations.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Very good suggestion and there will be content like this to surface on the channel soon! Hoping to visit some tracks that have E-Bike sessions specifically and hopefully visit some outdoor trails made specifically for these types of bike!! Watch this space 💯🔋⚡️

[@stephenrobbins9901]

We were asking for off road areas to ride in the 70's ,not going to happen unfortunately

[@pikachus5m166]

Just like the Light Bees, the Ultras will have modding kits for more power, and just like police sleeper vehicles, their Surrons get modded.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

I guess potentially and maybe more so in the future but most of these kits are aftermarket kits and for the time being i dont think they are deemed “safe” enough for the authorities to be using on their own vehicles… will have to see if any information is released on this in the future!

[@leopoldstotch3524]

That canal route you’ve got looks like a nice little ride 👌

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Thanks man yeah it’s ideal!! Lovely spot when its dry and sunny. A nightmare and scary when it’s raining and muddy😂🔋⚡️

[@martinphilip8998]

I had the same thought when he came across the red boat.

[@sharpshooter012345]

Here in Canada they started doing that this year.. police riding ebikes everywhere in the parks etc.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

I think another year or so and it will be a standard for many police!

[@ChrisxStyleZ]

not in ontario...yet

[@allemander]

#policestate

[@micbite]

It's illegal to ride a surron on British roads unless you are the police using them to chase one. It's a big scam

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Basically yep😂

[@LifeofBrad1]

Surrons are e-motorcycles, not e-bikes. Don't get the two muddled up. The mainstream media do that enough.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

E-bike… E-motorcycle…. Same thing, still just a bike at the end of the day🤷🏻‍♂️😁🔋⚡️

[@LifeofBrad1]

@@mattfrancisofficial Nope. One can be propelled using pedals. The other can't. But if you want to carry on (wrongly) believing they're the same thing, then whatever.

[@user-pq4by2rq9y]

@@LifeofBrad1 There are pedal kits for surrons, does that turn it into a ebike?

[@LifeofBrad1]

@@user-pq4by2rq9y They're just there for show, so no.

[@neilbradley5011]

@@mattfrancisofficial So, with your logic a EAPC is the same as a Kawasaki Z1 900?????

[@Account8195]

if you cant beat them join them

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Precisely

[@PBK.london]

Are they buying them or using confiscated ones 🤔

[@mattfrancisofficial]

I’d have a guess at buying them as Surron do make specific police models of the bike, i dont think they are aloud to use impounded vehicles for their own use either. However it would definitely save them a few quid!

[@NasdaqManiac]

Honestly it's smart for them to use them in crowded city's when they need quicker light to light and side trail maneuverability. Not saying I'd EVER run from the police on my sur ron but I'll still say for sure it's no competition in the city and suburbs 🤫🚔

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Yeah it’s definitely smart for them to use them. It will have its pro’s and cons though as everything I suppose 💯🔋⚡️

[@andrewtaylor2525]

So the police can have derestricted ebikes with a working throttle, but if an average Joe like me has to have the full potential of my bike, which I bought and paid for restricted and a disabled throttle making it virtually pointless owning an ebike that is double standard and unfair the law and restrictions on ebikes in the uk needs to change!😡😡

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Yeh thats about right mate. The laws definitely should change but i do see the point in there being some restrictions in place still.

[@andrewtaylor2525]

@@mattfrancisofficial they can at least let us have the throttle and up the speed limit to 20 mph that is far more reasonable. 👍

[@scottyelder8351]

The police have to fight fire with fire there's no other way to fight criminals who have upgraded their own kit .

[@mattfrancisofficial]

You’re not wrong at all!

[@knoxieman]

Yup exactly, get a skilled ex Moto rider on the same bike but with a lot more power and range and most Surron riders are not going to get away, also many have poorly maintained and unreliable bikes that won't probably take a sustained pursuit over rough terrain, round here they use petrol bikes for pursuit and boy the cops on those bikes can really ride, gets the adrenaline going a good chase.

[@damianfrancak6993]

Surrons are more expensive to fill up. Surron - 2€ to full charge 2x per day = 4€ per day = 20€ per work week Gas supermoto - 2€ for 1l = 5l = 10€ per fill One full tank lasts about 7-10 days, around 1€ per day

[@mattfrancisofficial]

I cant see a tank lasting a rider 7-10 days if used every day for 8-12 hour shifts. In my opinion electric would definitely be cheaper.

[@damianfrancak6993]

@@mattfrancisofficial If they are using a 50 or a 125 cc bike and if they don't have them running when they aren't using them, then it is possible.

[@rcasper1809]

Someone with some common sense.. fair play..

[@rcasper1809]

@@mattfrancisofficial I cant see a battery lasting riding 8-12 hrs a day.. you would have to charge 3- 4 times a day. the battery would deteriorate very quickly... and could catch fire while charging not like a motor bike..

[@maalikserebryakov]

@@rcasper1809 plus charging takes ages too. The risk of catching fire is not that big, can be mitigated with tech. Still the main benefit is silent movement.

[@mraidymaddful]

As a motorcycle biker for nearly fifty years I would suggest that if you get your bikes road legal, you're less likely to get stopped by the PIGGS. I owned my last bike for just short of 20 years, till it got stolen last year. I only got stopped once during that time for speeding (36 in a 30). And once more because the PIGG was lost. I gave him completely wrong directions so he would have got more lost, LMAO. Served him right for being an idiot.............

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Hahahaha fair play

[@Swooshta-zs3yp]

I think it isn’t gonna change much mate, they have the ability to catch us from the sky. Drones,helps, etc. this is just for city use, maybe street use too but definitely not on trails. They won’t get far they don’t like being out their comfort zone many of them, they would have to be really wanting you or your bike. If it’s everyday use in streets your chances of keeping the bike are low. Just keep to the trails and fields fellas f* em

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Fair points!! Trails and fields are definitely the best bet for keeping your bike safe. Just a shame there isn’t many specific locations to properly have fun on the surrons, saying that they are endless fun in most areas regardless!

[@matox01tekk]

imagine you get government contract while making e-bikes, good one for Surron, but it makes sense the amount of agility you gain to get around the city is incomparable to normal motorbikes you might lose the top speed but that's about it

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Yeah precisely

[@davidwhitworth4577]

I think everything said in this video is spot on, you're more likely to get chased and possibly arrested in towns now the police are on surrons

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Thanks man, i though it was all relevant and useful information to share! 💯🔋⚡️

[@cabbynate]

From my American point of view I feel they are going this way to ditch the gas powered motorcycle. Sure, they will chase illegal dikes but I don't think that is the main purpose to getting them. They will be getting them here in American soon I suspect.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Yeah for sure man! Definitely using them for the environmental benefits (touchy subject for some people lol) Like i said in the video i can see all the lolice bikes being electric in the next few years!

[@phisit8813]

We should petition to have 15.5 mph capped on Police e-bikes.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

😂😂 quite a good idea!

[@scottyogoncloud9142]

That was a really good video. Keep it up do more videos you’re good at it

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Thanks man! I appreciate that! Plenty more to come🔋⚡️

[@simonpe3trie102]

Think it’s a good thing they should make the registration process easier Quick sidenote, you don’t honestly think the police will be using stock bikes with no upgrades do you . I can guarantee you now they will not be .. 😊

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Yeah good point! The road legal versions come registered most the time anyway. I honestly dont think they will be using upgraded surrons. Any upgrades are after market and i dont think that would meet the criteria of a safe and reliable vehicle for the police to use🤷🏻‍♂️

[@simonpe3trie102]

@@mattfrancisofficial going off the police cars and other vehicles that have been stage three remapped as a minimum has before suspension and brake upgrades . So can’t imagine to be riding stock. Bikes not to mention they wouldn’t be able to keep up or catch with most of the riders who are much more skilled than them. !

[@braydenkoop4541]

The police where I'm from they don't mind me riding on the road with my surron the only time I was pulled over was bc they were trying to figure out what it was gas or electric

[@mattfrancisofficial]

That’s awesome!! Im guessing you’re from US? Its such a different story in the UK, anyone who doesn’t ride a surron or want one absolutely hates them! 😂🔋⚡️

[@braydenkoop4541]

​@mattfrancisofficial I think the reason why people don't like surrons is bc some of the riders don't have respect and they do Sketchy stuff on them. I'm from Canada in a small town and my surron I can get registered if i really wanted to

[@S.Trades]

An exhaust pipe is something of a giveaway.

[@josephgeorgeejr7039]

Maintenance is a big reason also, no spark plugs, no oil changes, carburetors an so on! They would save enough 1 year pay for the bikes

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Yeah very true, so much less maintenance than an engine bike for sure!

[@kevindarkstar]

No modern bike has a carb, but I get ya point 😊

[@je7647]

Was here when you had a few subs. congrats on the growth

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Thank you! Greatly appreciate it mate. One of the original subscribers 💯 always respect for you!!

[@badabing8884]

The question is why they are allowed to be sold? It’s not like those who buy them are only going to ride them on private land only with the permission of the landowner. The other question is what do you do when you crash and injure/kill someone else on one those things? Just ride off? No responsibility for the consequences of your actions. There’s a reason why riders should have CBT and number plates on them. I had a run in with one last year who decided to ride his in a pedestrian only zone (pedestrians and cyclists only ) of my local town centre. Was riding it at more than 30mph and terrified shoppers going about in their Sunday morning. I Managed to dodge him whilst cycling and he smashed right into a tree breaking his arm and leg. No helmet, just a balaclava, no number plate or insurance. Said he was 19. Whilst he was being attended to his mate comes along and rides off with the Surron, no doubt so when the rider does recover he can ride it again another day.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Why do they sell cars/motorcycles far more powerful and with higher speeds than the law states? If they were to stop the sale of these bikes then they would have to stop selling any vehicles capable of going over the highest speed limit in the UK which is 70mph! It’s just not reasonable is it. As for hitting/killing someone, that comes down to the rider not the bike. If they decide to run that is on them not the surron! What about if i hit someone on a bicycle and badly injured or killed them (which is still very possible). You cant blame the bike for that can you! Again, like mentioned, that comes down to the rider being a bell end. The bike didn’t make him do that and those are the people that ruin it for the standard users who just want to enjoy their bike and life. Again, same with cars, people speed around above the speed limit and cause chaos on false number plates so no way of actually tracking the driver. Shall we ban all vehicles until this can be solved? Is that what you are saying?? I’ve seen horses throw off riders injuring them to the point they are in critical condition in hospital. Shall we also ban horse riding too? A family member of mine broke their leg by simply walking down an icy street and slipped. Are we then going to ban walking to avoid this? In my opinion you sound like a right snowflake and if everyone had to live your way life would be even more miserable and fun deprived than it already is. Everything is based on circumstance, you can’t just ban a product because a small minority can’t behave themselves whilst using it or because other humans dont agree with it. We have to share this earth together which means putting up with things we dont want to. Thats life. Welcome to it.

[@user-pq4by2rq9y]

In reality it is probably that they can ride the surron around pedestrian spaces. Normal motorcycles are just too loud. A nice bonus is that anyone can drive a surron, I need a special license where I am from if I want to drive a motorcycle. Also, patrolling on a surron is much, much cheaper.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Yeah i would say so, it will have its advantages for them using the surron! 🔋⚡️

[@FlyingFun.]

Was inevitable , police bikes will probably be upgraded too, they wont want slow bikes. What IS on my mind is are they allowed to ride illegally to follow you off road? This would go back to whether or not they should do high speed pursuits for fear of causing accidents that would not have happened if they just did not chase... I'm up in yorkshire and ride ebikes but am aware of the rules etc and stay away from roads anyway because cars are dangerous around 15mph bikes, a sur ron would be safer on the road keeping up with traffic but then is illegal off road, its a problem, I like to do days out on the bike and that requires both on and off road, A bike that is legal on the road and can keep up with traffic and be allowed off road in 15mph mode with pedal assist would be infinitely more useful to me, it would literally replace all other transport for my need ( IF security wasnt and issue of course.)

[@canturgan]

Indicators aren't required but if you have them they must work.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

I see

[@13Maxfire]

this guy is a British surronster lool defo can see where the inspo comes from

[@mattfrancisofficial]

😂 I cant even deny it, he’s a big inspiration of mine! I’ll happily take the title of the british surronster💯🔋⚡️

[@user-jr2vy2el6f]

This is why I modded my 20'' Wheel Argos folding e bike 60 v 5000w but looks like an old grannies bike with panniers and front basket. Low key sleeper bike!

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Haha not a bad choice! Makes it a lot more rideable in public locations 🔋⚡️

[@Whydoibother943]

The saying if you cant beat them, join them springs to mind.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Precisely

[@Mikeyteves1]

True for the majority, but I doubt a Surron will catch a Solar eClipse though.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Aha no i think the Solar bikes are built prepared for this type of situation. I’m yet to see how a 72v surron holds up against the solar eclipse though… thats a video for the future for sure!

[@ThePrivateRusty]

I ride hard enduro with a few MET Police boys.Dont underestimate some of those bobbies on bikes skills,there pretty good and they are out there practicing as much as the rest of us.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

I bet some of them are very skilled riders! More so than the youth who ride round London on mopeds and stolen bikes. Luckily MET police dont police my area so i’m safe from those riders… for now😂

[@robredz]

Motorcycle Police riders tend to have a broader outlook, they will likely enjoy a Surron after hauling a BMW about. When I rode a BMW bike only time I was pulled over the officer was more interested in what I thought of the bike, A cop on a Surron might well be as well disposed towards legal riders with tips on how to keep it safe and avoiding getting it nicked.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Yeah fair points man, just a shame every cop isn’t a motorcycle cop😂🔋⚡️

[@robredz]

@mattfrancisofficial ​ yes some are clueless as to actual rules. which is why they messup and snatch legally used bikes. was at hing with street legal buggies a while back

[@russellzauner]

The same reason they use automatic weapons - to remove advantages.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Precisely

[@knoxieman]

Majority of cops only have semi auto, tactical squads have a few full autos, I bet they've never used full auto in a real police situation here though, the Police are not bound by the Geneva convention so they could in theory also use dumbed bullets, poisonous bullets etc, none of these tactics are going to be brought down on kids riding Surrons unless your a drug dealer maybe.

[@darrylphillips6301]

Man i feel bad for the people ocer in Europe, the states can try all they want but in big cities like Chicago where i live unrestricted bikes with throttle speeds of 32 mph and more are all over the place and literally never have any problems regardless of the class. As long as your not an asshole on it ur fine for most part. Cant imagine going under 750 watts thats crazy out there. Like 250 watts aint shit man

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Yeah it sucks over here for the regulations and how strict they are on them! Typical of British people to be like this especially 👎🏻🔋⚡️

[@cycologist7069]

Only a matter of time before things change. Federally, E-bikes (class 3) cannot go over 28 with pedal assist and not over 20 with throttle. Anything beyond that is considers and actual motorcycle. Obviously there are work arounds but again only a matter of time before there's a crack down.

[@thenutt1870]

great,,, so now i dont just have local karens to worry about, but soon to be surron police force hunting me down on the trails.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Yeah not ideal is it. They’re such fun sponges!

[@Thy20020]

It wouldn’t surprise me if the police has upgraded there sur rons with a better battery

[@mattfrancisofficial]

I highly doubt it, it would have to be an aftermarket battery which probably wouldn’t keep the bike in line with safety regulations 🤷🏻‍♂️🔋⚡️

[@christian_coulson]

if you can't beat them, join them!

[@mattfrancisofficial]

😂🔋⚡️

[@johnw65]

From the Law Enforcement point of view, they're cheap, fast, stealthy, and able to patrol far more than cars or horses!

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Yeah precisely!

[@theceo678yearsago5]

I never seen a fed on a surron yet

[@mattfrancisofficial]

😂🔋⚡️

[@indianna5649]

A bar through the front wheel. Oh what fun to watch.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

😂😂😂

[@treeman101]

you could have little bike stations dotted around cities where police can have horde of bikes and chargers and stuff

[@mattfrancisofficial]

😂😂

[@rroge5]

would the police put one on the roof of a police car? so that a officer in pursuit of a criminal could stop the car and just pull it off and continue the chase?

[@mattfrancisofficial]

I’d love to see that! Always a potential 😂

[@jcc777]

Because they are efficient and agile forms of transportation that can easily be w ridden in places that other vehicles would have a difficult time going. Just the fuel savings alone would save government tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars a year if they were used nationwide.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Agreed!

[@rambleron5720]

It just makes sense.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

💯🔋⚡️

[@Spacezee110]

They have been using them in Ukraine since the start of the war. And im not surprised that the police are using these now

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Thats crazy, i’ve not seen them used for that but makes sense that they would. Like i said in the video give it a few years and all police will have some form of electric bike🥲🔋⚡️

[@Spacezee110]

@@mattfrancisofficial they were on the talaria website as military stings. Full camo paintwork and stiffer suspension

[@gowithbazza]

It's ever electric or water and a lot of vehicle manufacturers are moving towards water rather than electric

[@mattfrancisofficial]

That’s interesting! I’ve never seen a water powered vehicle? Id buy one if they were available though!

[@gowithbazza]

@@mattfrancisofficial you should look these things up I first heard about it over 15 years ago a Jamaican running his car on water but of course use simple minded people will be told it's impossible or to difficult or even dangerous a lectrical minded friend showed me how possible it was with a little know how but of course those in power would have no power to control those running there vehicles on water kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaXEfWStp5Vqicksi=k3ea4i6Gj8vWKfDy

[@gowithbazza]

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[@gowithbazza]

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[@fontanasurron]

and now it comes down to rider skill XD

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Correct

[@user-xg1gl9el1f]

imma become an officer then

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Thats one way to get to ride an ultra bee aha! I like it!

[@silkut_online_2037]

Jeez... and to think these things are illegal in most places... and now the cops are able to utilize them.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

It’s normally the way… as other comments are saying “if you cant beat them, join them”

[@bluelightblits7833]

big up my footage being used

[@tharpeaddy]

Oil change’s gasoline fill ups Don’t only get expensive but time consuming I haven’t been to a gas station in months Oil doesn’t exist in my world just grease lol

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Yeah it all plays part doesn’t it!! Lmao same here, grease and lube and charging my battery😂🔋⚡️

[@davidmoore9385]

Let's hope they are registered and the police have motorcycle license.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

I’m sure they will, they would have to follow the rules by the book even on surrons.

[@yourname-dp8xw]

I would love for the Police to ride these e bikes. They will never catch me on my bike ever again if that happens. And I ain't talking about a R1 as well just a measly derby 125 will easily outpace these and give the police 0 chance of catching anyone who is faster than a ebike user. So any cars and motorcycles will ALWAYS get away as soon as you ain't stuck in traffic

[@mattfrancisofficial]

You’re not wrong mate. I doubt that was their full intention on taking on these surrons but does give them an advantage in other aspects of catching criminals

[@lilvegasbasc-se7en-0-duece67]

And they will most likely will have a contract with suppliers so they are getting the bikes half priced damn near.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Yeh you’re not wrong. They get all the best deals😒

[@Joe_HamRadioGuy]

Sucks out in the UK theres so many restrictions on riding ebikes, In some areas here if them bikes arn't gps they would get stolen right out from under the rider including the police.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Yeah buddy it’s a different game out here, people are too concerned about the dangers of others having fun and enjoying themselves aha. I already see lots of these bikes being taken on a daily occasion its a big shame! 👎🏻🔋⚡️

[@cycologist7069]

The Surron isn't' really an e-bike but rather an motorcycle. The UK has pretty much the same restrictions as the rest of Europe and in reality it doesn't suck at all. It keeps actual e-bikes legal to ride in all the same areas and paths as conventional bikes and anything beyond that (like the Surron) as a motorcycle to be used where motorcycles are legal. It's a win win for everyone.

[@cherylphelan2422]

Probably because they look like so much fun.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

True

[@seanbirss1816]

Well they must have plenty that they have confiscated to slap som hi-vis on😅

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Ahaha you’re not wrong! More cost saving😂

[@goingoutotheparty1]

Pretend to pedal

[@mattfrancisofficial]

It’s a technique i have used in the past😂🔋⚡️

[@Ukmongoose3]

Me too

[@demontongue9893]

So the police are allowed to break the law but we can't....I see

[@mattfrancisofficial]

One rule for one, no rules for the other 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@aishalotter9995]

Do as I say not as I do !!!

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Precisely

[@blairsmith8096]

are the police bikes unrestricted ??

[@mattfrancisofficial]

I presume they’ll just be a standard battery that the ultra bee comes with. I doubt they would want to use aftermarket batteries and definitely wouldn’t be bypassing any batteries

[@OwenJoseph-tp8ym]

The phone snatching is rife in London, police have no choice but have faster bikes to catch them. Hopefully they'll have a gadget to knock out the power soon 😉

[@davidt1621]

After what I've seen over the last month, I've one relevant word to use, and I can barely believe it myself: Katanas.

[@ttvk9283]

Will the police still try and nick your bike if it’s road legal ?

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Not if its road legal, fully up to standard and the rider is insured with a licence etc. There would be no reason for them to be able to if its up to standard💯🔋⚡️

[@electriceheads369]

good info and video mate ⚡

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Thanks man! Appreciate the feedback!💯🔋⚡️

[@fraserthomson5766]

It's indicative of how broken current and corrupt UK laws are. At least canal towpaths are off limits to these Surons, which is a sweet getaway in theory..

[@mattfrancisofficial]

💯🔋⚡️

[@-matt-matt-]

,, Police vehicles are exempt from road tax and MOT ✌️,,

[@mattfrancisofficial]

I did think so!

[@fud1376]

I'm suprised it took them so long...Ha !!

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Me too in a way, will be the new norm for sure!

[@baoff666z]

use both hands more often instead of waving it about hahah

[@mattfrancisofficial]

😂😂👋🏻

[@kavanobrien6547]

How much are these bikes ? Where are they sold ?

[@mattfrancisofficial]

£4000/5000 brand new. Sold at motorcycle dealers across the UK!

[@kavanobrien6547]

@@mattfrancisofficial wow that’s a lot of money for me, carry on walking then, thanks for reply, take care.

[@kaykunz]

Moped thieves are still at large.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

They very much are! I don’t think these surrons were intended to help with moped thieves but every little helps!

[@Hots1469]

Do I need driver license or something like that for a talaria 2022?

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Yes to ride on the road you will

[@Zevose]

Ultra bees have a lot more power than light bees so you were wrong about saying police bikes will have the same power as people on surrons even at low charge they will be faster than a fully charged light bee

[@mattfrancisofficial]

More power but heavier bike, same top speed, less manoeuvring ability. There are pro’s and cons to both.

[@thepurplecat5975]

I am 100% in favour of e-bikes and e-scooters I just wish they were all forced to be registered, riders take CBT and have insurance. Why? Accountability. Seen e-scoot riders damaging parked cars and just ride off no care given that they just caused some poor innocent person thousands of pounds in damage.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Thats a fair point but at that stage its all down to who is riding it and their experience. I definitely dont agree with them hitting cars and not leaving a note or telling the owner.

[@editzbywalt]

I’ll be a cop if I get to ride on a surron 😂

[@mattfrancisofficial]

😂 it would be hard not to have fun working on one of those things! 💯🔋💯

[@Jackscaf]

Hi mate I'm 6 ft tall would you recommend a surron or talaria.cheers

[@mattfrancisofficial]

So from what i know, Surrons have more options for making the bike taller such as the seat riser kit, frame extender kit and peg drop brackets. However i do think standard Talaria’s are slightly taller than the surrons but don’t quote me on it. I’m 6ft as well and feel like the standard surron size is still absolutely fine for people our height. It comes down to which bike you prefer over all and then adjustments can be made further down the line if needed🔋⚡️

[@buddybleeyes]

Honestly im glad, with how much motorcycles were getting nicked a few years back, and then now loads of my mates being threated with knives for their surrons. Something has to be done about the crime around them :/ I've been lucky when my 800cc motorcycle nearly got pinched my neighbour had scared them off.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Yeh very true, hopefully it makes a difference

[@petersmith9470]

Look forward to the dayglo lycra, I'll would be surprised if a police officer actually turned up too.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Lol

[@ErikMm5]

do you think the agility of an upgraded LBX could keep up with a likely stock police spec ultra bee?

[@mattfrancisofficial]

I do yeah main reason being that an upgraded LBX would push a lot more power, be lighter and more manoeuvrable. I believe the police surrons will still be stock and the stock ultra bee’s top speed is the same as LBX anyway🔋⚡️

[@Dubelectroify]

​@mattfrancisofficial where do you get that? Storm and ultra bee an both do 70mph standard lbx can only do 50

[@Dubelectroify]

Even with an upgrade no chance it's gonna do an extra 20 mph

[@ErikMm5]

@@Dubelectroify You're right, In a straight line not a chance. However if the light bee was hoping curbs and taking sidewalks, and the police are trying to ride on the road and be civil about the chase it could be closer.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

I’ve watched many videos on the ultra bee and it’s been proven its the same top speed as a Light Bee! Google it… it says top soeed for ultra is 55mph which in reality is 50mph

[@MrDAV991]

They aren’t vehicles a vehicle is something used in commerce now they are showing number plates. What’s coming next for e bikes tax insurance mot now it’s looking pricey. They next have to convince you all to take tests. Registration makes you the registered keeper not the owner so driver be aware 🙂

[@mattfrancisofficial]

👍🏻

[@Jbmc65]

How can they register Surrons? Do they come with a registration number now?

[@mattfrancisofficial]

If you purchase a road legal version then yes they can be road registered. Even the off road ones can be registered for a daytime MOT in the UK. Just a pricey option for riding plus they’re not the safest bikes to be riding on the road due to speed and size etc 💯⚡️

[@leemorgan7118]

Its Easy Then, Dont Want To Get Caught? Get Road Legal And Register It. U Won't Have Any Issues

[@mattfrancisofficial]

If you intend to ride on public roads, yes, 100%

[@Ben-ze5jm]

Fortunatly for us tax payers they do use vehicles over 3 years old, under cover cars are a perfect example as many are well over 5 years old (ones I've seen)

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Im yet to see this!

[@bugsy742]

So where is the cash gunna come from for us all to buy a leccy car when the laws change?

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Very good question! They can’t just expect everyone to suddenly convert to electric. But when they do surrons and talaria’s will be everywhere 😂🔋⚡️

[@bugsy742]

@@mattfrancisofficial I mean it could bring the price right down 😃✊ I’d be happy with that 🤣🤝

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

They aren't gonna force you to stop using your petrol vehicle. The law will just be that brand new vehicles sold will have to be electric. I highly doubt they'll make the 2030 target anyway it's more like 2040 because the charging network is nowhere near good enough.

[@bugsy742]

@@JudeTheKZbinPoopersubscribe yeah I know buddy I just as just venting 👍🤝

[@G4RY1159]

Utility cartels all got new super SUPERMEGAYachts on order when everything goes E' - What power and control they will have, the world is rapidly heading in a direction that is truly FK'd up. Cashless means every purchase such as these bikes could be very easily traced, same with E-Cars, be no need for speed cameras as the car itself will report the driver automatically AND what with cashless ''in the future'' possibly even just deduct the fine fee automatically. But I'm convinced there will be zero need for any speed cameras as the cars software will be enough, and the car will be able to do 40mph in a 30 etc as the fine revenue is always welcome. I doubt I'll be around to see it all but it's clear the way things are heading.

[@cyberlizardcouk]

there is a technical error in the video. CBT is only valid for 2 years and then must be renewed or a full motorcycle test must be taken. you cannot ride indefinitely on a CBT which is a great shame.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

I’m aware of this.

[@cyberlizardcouk]

I do think two years is a bit rubbish though. five years would be much more useful. @@mattfrancisofficial

[@catow465]

now the police are even easier to evade :)

[@mattfrancisofficial]

😂😂 In ways you’re absolutely right💯🔋⚡️

[@catow465]

@@mattfrancisofficial i mean, if you are just on a normal dirt bike then yeah.

[@BURP39R]

Wait a minute, you aren't the Yank in the bike helmet!!

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Aha no i’m the Brit in the bike helmet… 😂🔋⚡️

[@BURP39R]

@@mattfrancisofficial ha ha fair play. I shall asume you're a giant thief! Play on!

[@Darkhorse1978-c6w]

ive had 4 chases from the police on my escooter since the laws came into effect, hit the schemes ,stay off the long straights and i always try and double back the way i came when out of sight so they cant cut me off.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Useful tactics 👌🏻🔋⚡️

[@therealavolpe]

Pride comes before a fall, guys

[@knoxieman]

Yup the double back is a brilliant tactic, I've been riding electric scooters and bikes for over 25 years, best way to not get noticed is to be sensible, that's why so many ppl get bother because they are too much fun to be sensible on 😂

[@therealavolpe]

Advising people how to evade the police is going to get you in trouble..

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Not necessarily advise, i don’t advise anyone does this and the information is out there for everyone anyway. ⚡️

[@therealavolpe]

@@mattfrancisofficial Advising people to mod their bikes, to outrun and evade police investigating criminality is going to get you in trouble, is what I mean..

[@stephenrobbins9901]

British police vehicles are mot exempt

[@mattfrancisofficial]

I did try to make that point!

[@stephenrobbins9901]

Yeah, most people aren't aware of it tho,not being funny just a comment 🙂

[@aussiemtb]

Really nice video!!

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Thanks man! Appreciate it💯🔋⚡️

[@aussiemtb]

@@mattfrancisofficial no worries mate

[@bozzy7946]

I thought these were illegal for street use and only for off road. Another pot meets the kettle for the powers that be.

[@mattfrancisofficial]

They do make road legal versions that can be registered and the police bikes will be road legal but you’re right. They’re frowned upon on by police but yet they ride them🤷🏻‍♂️

[@dorsets9295]

having blue lights on your car is also illegal unless youre EMS. Want to cry about that aswell?

[@bozzy7946]

@@dorsets9295 projecting much

[@dorsets9295]

@@bozzy7946 just saying pal. If ur phone gets stolen by someone on a moped would you prefer the police to be able to follow and catch them or not??

[@bozzy7946]

@@dorsets9295 they could call you the wicker man with all that straw. I'd rather avoid calling them and figure it out myself if possible

[@ChrisxStyleZ]

i wonder what controller theyll use....if they even use it lol

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Lol, standard controller I’d presume, the stock bike will be all they need for a start

[@Lee-ic2yn]

You think theyre buying them?

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Well i doubt the Surron company is handing them out for free…

[@jawaidmohammad2100]

Hello am from UK but live in Aus can U ride these bikes on Rd legally. Am over dirtbikes get into so much trouble the noise. Look like alot off fun.🎉🎉🎉

[@mattfrancisofficial]

Not sure about Aus but they can be ridden legally as a road registered bike! They’re brilliant fun for off road use as well. Like you say noise is normally a problem but it’s never a problem on this bike!💯🔋⚡️