Police Interrogation Of Obsessive and Manipulative Behavior

[@RedTreeCrime]

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[@kendalldad]

Love your channel. Keep up the great work!

[@Andy-xl9gz]

You're doing a great job

[@kendalldad]

@@dibbute4057 A KZbin channel with approx 100k subscribers who doesn't post videos, only links. Makes perfect sense 🙄

[@cherieovrebo9790]

Your videos are great! However, there were a few mistakes in your telling of the crime. The knife used was stolen by Gypsy at Walmart. Also. she was not into BDSM on her own, Nick liked it and she made up personalities and went along with it because he was.

[@ericamichelle672]

I'm excited for new ones. I'm a new follower and I've binged all that you have posted. Thanks!!

[@The89delta]

One of the most compelling stories because the real monster in the tale, was the homicide victim.

[@winstonchurchill571]

Totally agree with you

[@WakeyWakeyEggsandBakey]

Exactly. Although gypsy really did do a pretty twisted thing with hoe dhe tried to frame Nicholas as the murderer and not only that but a rapist. But yes, let's face it, none of it would've happened if deedee had allowed gypsy to simply leave like a grown up. Sad sad case.

[@brookemckinley5709]

She did it all to herself

[@jeanettebird2739]

The victim shouldn’t have been murdered but locked away for life for the brutality she caused her daughter for many years , that poor girl was physically and mentally destroyed . Very sad story even though doesn’t justify the murder .

[@WakeyWakeyEggsandBakey]

@@brookemckinley5709 who did it to herself? It isn't clear which woman you're referring to and your comment really could apply to either. Thanks, all the best from Kerry in England ❤

[@sandibaker5298]

“Not fair to Gypsy”?!? What about that poor boy?! Gypsy totally took advantage of his naïveté & vulnerability and manipulated him into doing what she wanted done but didn’t have the guts to do. No way should he be in prison for the rest of his life!

[@apriltatro2396]

I totally agree and she's out of prison now telling her story making all kinds of $ she's married & this poor guy is in prison for life

[@Trolldaddy5]

​@@apriltatro2396and it's supposed to be illegal to profit from crimes.

[@ToniWhatsnext]

She's evil.

[@philricke8372]

Beatin it 9 hours straight!! That's determination on a whole different level!

[@louieberg2942]

No wonder he had stamina

[@LadySenu]

Chasing that McNut

[@tradeladder146]

Friction Burns for sure, LOL.

[@pambeforethestorm9784]

💀💀🤣🤣

[@teshomacalkins3257]

What in the Viagra is going on 😂

[@ahmadhamaoui7857]

I really feel bad for the dude. He should’ve never been interrogated without a lawyer present.

[@suzannestone798]

agreed, he needed to have someone there because he is not mentally sound

[@reginagilby1101]

That’s exactly right

[@pambeforethestorm9784]

Absolutely 💯 💯

[@cassandrahughes2897]

They knew that from jump and used that to their advantage . Likely also knowing his parents wouldn't come for them bc they were tired of caring for their own son and gladly let it all happen .

[@joedennehy386]

Agreed but he would have been convicted just the same

[@Lindsey0007]

Usually this story is told from Gypsy’s pov but I really like how you did it from Nick’s side.

[@tugbankert6581]

Shut up, Troll!

[@terryhorowitz7076]

Me too

[@P9rkour90]

Where can I find that side? This is the first time ever hearing about this case

[@kimgreen4311]

@@P9rkour90 On Hulu also, a 5 part docudrama called The Act is about this whole case. It's bizarre

[@kaylamcnutt7243]

Makes me feel ignorant, been watchin these for four years. Damn i miss stuff...

[@richardcarson3596]

the only person to preface a statement with "honestly," and is actually being honest

[@modestmeeshka]

I thought the same thing 😂

[@JustMe911]

😅

[@mattvachon2198]

Nobody: The detective: "You see, a lie is like a snowball that's filled with pencils and rigged to explode, and only YOU can stop forest fires with this eraser. You understand, don't you?"

[@kathrinen3834]

Genuinely had a good laugh over that one. Cheers man! 😂

[@F1obsessedchica]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@danielwggudan2]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Nightman221k]

Crazy analogies, but I gotta give the interrogator credit for how his strategy of interrupting Gypsy before she can formulate an elaborate lie or start her crocodile tears routine. Gypsy looked so frustrated when he’d stop before she can tell her sob story cause it crashed her train of thought.

[@Julia-uh4li]

God, that analogy stuff drove me so nutty that I had to up the playback speed to 2Xs just to get through it quick. Excellent comment 👏🤣👏🤣

[@teddyjackson1902]

The way this interrogation was handled was suspect and unethical imo. Telling a young man with special needs that he has to prove his love by getting his gf out of trouble is pretty outrageous.

[@forpetessake3532]

i agree - he's a child in mind and a child MUST HAVE AN APPOINTED ATTY

[@wvrjl]

That's what police do. They ARE unethical. They train that way. And it's wrong.

[@FastCashClass]

I said the same, they used the only thing this man ever wanted & needed in life & turned it against him to get a conviction all while knowing he has a child like mind & is mentally ill. Everybody manipulated this man , his real family, Gypsy, & the police then left him to hold the bag

[@SmallAndSoft]

@@forpetessake3532 spoken like a real fortnite attorney lol so lazy you cant even spell the damn word correctly 🤣

[@shadygirlxoxo]

It’s absolutely disgusting! Gypsy learned how to manipulate from the very best (& most evil). But her haste to blame Nicolas & leave his ass in the dust, while he would have literally died for her, this whole situation is so sad! I don’t get why Nick got a life sentence while Gypsy got like 10 years🤷🏽‍♀️. Typically, the mastermind in solicited murder usually receives longer or, at least, equal sentences as the actual “trigger man” does. The fact that he’s of low IQ & has mental defects makes this circumstance so much more of a miscarriage of justice. I felt so sorry for Gypsy until she tossed Nick under the bus, laughing inside while fake crying on the outside!

[@taylor3101]

Investigator: "you already had something to eat? What did you have?" Nick: "well they're called ham sandwiches. I believe they're served with mayonnaise." 😂 This is going to be a good one

[@JustMe911]

😂

[@PaNaMaMa1981]

I watched a documentary and watched the movie to this. Although killing a person is not right, Gypsy's mother put her thru an ongoing hell. She turned a perfect healthy child into this "terminally ill' child most of her life. DD subjected Gypsy to unnecessary therapies, operations, medications, and mental/emotional abuse. DD robbed Gypsy of her life and in turn provided Gypsy with a neverending hell. DD also accepted major donations of money, trips, etc due to Gpsy's "terminal illnesses". DD victimized Gypsy and so many others. She is not some innocent victim.

[@ScoutsPatterson]

While DD was an absolute POS, Gypsy fully participated in her Mom’s endless schemes. She loved the free house, free cash and free Disney trips. She wasn’t victimized, she was a co-grifter. She claims she “wouldn’t be believed” if she told police, all she would’ve had to do was call them, jump out of the wheel chair and run circles around it. Pretty sure they’d believe her then. Plus her Dad and stepmom would’ve believed her, but she didn’t even make an attempt. She should’ve gotten the life sentence, she’s the one that used an autistic boy to do her bidding then throw him under the bus immediately.

[@rachellelove963]

...and the $4000 they "stole" from DD, was money acquired by false claims she made AND child support from Gypsy's father. That woman should be in hell for what she did to her child.

[@tubester4567]

@@ScoutsPatterson I agree. She was an adult and could have left. There is much more video than was shown here, other youtube channels have the long version. She completely threw Nick under the bus. She said he locked her in the bathroom while he killed her mother then dragged her into the bedroom and raped her. In reality she went in there to shave her legs in preparation of sex which was her "reward" for Nick killing her mother.

[@WakeyWakeyEggsandBakey]

@@ScoutsPatterson hmm, I don't think it can be said that gypsy wasn't victimised. She 100% was victimised. However, when she became an adult she can no longer be considered 100% victim when it comes to using her manipulative skills to recruit a poor unsuspecting and extremely vulnerable person like Nicholas in order to escape her prison. It is possible to be both victim and co-conspirator. Gypsy was abused horrifically and knew no other way of living other than manipulating in order to survive. That is the level she would have been brainwashed by her abuser - that if she didn't go along with it, she would for example have been told that she would go to prison, or lose her mother to prison, be homeless... or... etc. She didn't have any outside influences to help her out of this situation because everyone believed her to be sick. There's extreme codependency and no doubt extreme Stockholm syndrome. Personally I think deedee had it coming and by that I'm not saying they should have killed her but that she really ought to have realised that when gypsy grew up she wouldn't want to live that way any longer and if she wasn't allowed to leave, she would create an escape plan. Deedee was imo the most evil person in the case. So it's crazy to say she wasn't victimised. But the moment she became the manipulator of Nicholas in order to murder her abuser she then became the perpetrator of abuse.imo. I think the justice system really dropped the ball in this case. I don't think either of them should've got a life sentence. Both should've got the 10 years - gypsy because of the horrific abuse she suffered, and Nicholas because of his learning difficulties, obsessive tendencies and how he was used and manipulated by gypsy. She is a real piece of doodoo for how she tried to frame it as him raping her etc. Sick. I do.love seeing her get taken down a peg or two when she realises the investigator isn't buying her bs. She simply doesn't know what to do with that and her squirming is joyous to me. If you haven't already, you should watch the entire full length interviews which are available on KZbin.

[@cooldudenibb]

@@ScoutsPatterson idk man, if you are raised from birth being told that you’re terminally ill with one thing or another, and your mom moves you any time any doctors get suspicious, and your mom makes sure you don’t have contact with any relatives, the I don’t think she’s as culpable in the schemes as you think. Deedee also lied to her about her age so she believed she was younger than she was. She was completely under her mothers thumb and I think in an abusive situation with this severity she couldn’t possibly be very complicit in these grifts I think they should both be held equally accountable. I’m sad that didn’t turn out to be what happened

[@Jennifer-iz4qq]

This is one case that I felt no sympathy for the murdered victim. She put her daughter through unbelievable torture and pain, mentally, physically, and emotionally. I also felt bad for the bf for getting entangled in the whole mess and for not having the mental capacity to understand a better way to handle it. Gypsy got a reasonable sentence. The bf did not.

[@purplebutterfly7257]

Well when it came to the killing of the mother just let me say “you reap what you sow”

[@a.N.....]

Amen brother

[@cassier3544]

My thoughts exactly! Well said !

[@jborrego2406]

Yea bad ppl should be murder an ppl that do it don’t go to jail . So how do we pick , u beat ur kids wife husband , ur just a asshole hole

[@glenpolen5562]

I feel sorry for that rotten mother for many reasons, but the main reason is that she missed out on having a fantastic life with her wonderful daughter. Its her loss. No body deserves to Die, but i can see why idiots and foolish people do it. I just started watching thi video. I read jennifers comment, and i agree. I read that the boyfriend got little prison time, or was it NONE? what about the daughter? She better have gotton alot of yrs in prison for planning and participating, etc etc. But he should get more, if he did the killing. Thanks

[@holfwaley3973]

I cannot believe that Nicholas is still in prison and likely won't ever get out, but Gypsy is about to be free. I am seriously fuming about this.

[@holfwaley3973]

@Jim Rex and she manipulated an autistic boy with sex into murdering her own mother!!! The real victim is Nicholas.

[@Rekeza]

@Jim Rex the point is she's getting out when she orchestrated the whole thing, she should've been sentenced to life

[@33greenleaf]

It’s almost like planning something is not the same as carrying out the plan 🤔

[@rodman0088]

Female privilege, I tell my wife all of the time that most are okay with it. People love to see men serve lots of time but hate when women get convicted at all. I don't think that men are over-charged or convicted but women almost literally get away with murder most of the time.

[@holfwaley3973]

@@33greenleaf she planned to manipulate her autistic boyfriend into murdering her mother, something most normal men would do for a girl if they found out the mother was torturing her like she was. People need to realize that Nicholas is autistic, was diagnosed long before the murder and Gypsy is not. She's much more capable of rational thought and she absolutely knew that boy was the perfect target for her plan. Today Gypsy Rose enjoys a free life, with a job and a husband, planning to have kids soon. While Nicholas Godejohn is being abused both mentally and physically by other inmates and the state simply refuses to do much about it, because why? Because he pulled the trigger, after Gypsy Rose assembled a gun for him, loaded it, cocked it and aimed it? Definitely seems like Justice to me. PS. Gypsy does not talk to Nicholas. She hasn't contacted him for "many years" now and does not plan on it. She has completely abandoned her "hero" after completing her evil scheme. She even fully admits that she is responsible for his situation, but does not feel any guilt because he's the one who did the actual murder... yea, ok.

[@_Pyroon_]

Effectively he has the mental ability of like a young teen whereas gypsy has an adult comprehension even if she has other mental issues. You basically have an adult convincing a child to kill someone and getting a much lighter sentence when he has so much potential for reform.

[@gthktty666]

as if it all wasn't sad enough, I read somewhere that Gypsy is really enjoying being in prison because she has more fun and freedom than she's ever experienced before.

[@TheIntrovert83]

WTF 🤦

[@ReenieG1UK]

Absolutely her life started in prison…Her life with her mother was the real prison for her…

[@OG-Capo---]

Crazy

[@lisettevanmil]

How sad 😔

[@shadygirlxoxo]

She actually said that to Dr Phil

[@lesleymoir3265]

I'm sorry but the detective questioning Gypsy was really aggravating me with the snowball and pencil analogies 😭 He really wouldn't let those go would he...

[@coltonmapoles6599]

Whenever a cop says "We got everything" they know they ain't got enough 🤣🤣🤣

[@user-jy2sj4ed4i]

Haha RIGHT! Otherwise they wouldn't be lyin.

[@lhdnp1980]

Otherwise you would be locked up already!

[@magickaldust1213]

I've never heard this story in "reverse" like this, thank you for the extra effort, man!

[@amandaburks1177]

I’ve seen this story on other forums, and I have to say besides the fake tears out of Gypsy during this interrogation, no one cried about the death of that TERRIBLE woman that was her mother. Ugh, I feel really bad for Nick and for Gypsy. Both of them were so screwed up and had zero mental health care…. Now they’re in jail, which we all know is not rehabilitation. This story can be summed up in 3 words: Strange, sad, and scary.

[@BillPinkNye]

Good ol America.

[@SapienSafari]

Entertaining

[@serialshagster6651]

One of the most child like, revealing thing this dude says during the interview happens around 5:48...The detective asks him what kind of relationship does he have with Gypsy and he replies, "Its...one of those committed ones." It just shows his child like demeanor and his innocence shines through. Now, I am not saying he shouldn't be punished for murder. I am saying he should have been shown some sort of leniency due to his extreme vulnerability! After all, Gypsy walks away with only ten years due to the abuse she suffered at the hands of her mother. Had this young man not come along when he did, her mother would have surely killed her in some way. In the documentary about this case, DeeDee parents say that she got what she had coming to her because she was evil! If that doesn't say it all, I don't know what will...

[@stephaniehensley1763]

They also flushed her ashes down the toilet.

[@greekspeare9526]

He had me at "they call it a ham sandwich."

[@sheenbee2215]

@@greekspeare9526 your comment had me cackling 😂

[@adamburdt8794]

Interrogator: Are you tired? Him: I've been awake the entire time. Weird response

[@SoCalJellybean]

Yes! They both deserved very light sentences, in my opinion… the REAL perpetrator (DeeDee) got the ultimate sentence she deserved! When your own parents want nothing to do with you, and don’t grieve when you die?! Well, that says everything, doesn’t it?

[@rebelwithoutaclue9387]

This is one of the most tragic cases I’ve ever encountered! In addition to the sad circumstances my son is autistic and is very similar to this boy. Fortunately he has myself, my wife, his siblings and a few very dedicated professionals who can see past the abnormal behaviour and social awkwardness to the sweet, compassionate, curious and enthusiastic soul he truly is!

[@oneil4252]

My Son also is on the spectrum, I had him later in life. Knowing him has completely changed who I am. I am a much better person now. My heart truly goes out to Nicholas, his honesty I feel it in my heart. NO! He doesn't belong in prison.

[@davidhuncho6665]

“If you truly lover her, you wouldn’t lie” can’t say that to just anyone this detective spotted his impairment. He didn’t know he needed a lawyer or when to ask for one.

[@stasha121]

This is sad all the way around. That poor young lady likely has more freedom in prison than she ever did in her mother's care.

[@deezynutz4742]

She did, I saw her do an interview a year or two after getting locked up, she looked healthy and happy, but VERY shifty. It looked like she prob runs the block in there, super calculated and deceitful and just all around manipulative. I also think she's out of jail or about to be out of jail, she didn't get that long of a sentence if my memory serves me. Seeing as she was taught nothing but deceit and manipulation I can't blame her though, she's just doing what she knows best.

[@danielburgstrom689]

Why do u say that she "Likely" has more freedom now? Both you and I know that she does only because Gipsy herself said so.

[@noelalexisshaw-nas-noz5142]

Well 2 Wrongs don't make a right...I feel for Gypsy on one hand and then on the other...Knowing she put that Pain and Hatred into possibly (years) of planning and Manipulated another into doing such a Horrific Act is abhorrent, She doesn't deserve to ever be Free...There are far more people out there that have suffered and continue to suffer as a Victim of Munchausens by proxy that don't Commit Murder, but hey who are we to be judge jury and executioner...That comes Upon Death...Much Love and Peace 🤜🏼❤🤛🏿

[@idkausername4035]

@@noelalexisshaw-nas-noz5142 Sadly she will most likely be out in two years with her fiancé

[@thetruthwillsetyoufree9209]

@@noelalexisshaw-nas-noz5142 classic passive aggressive answer

[@Alllblack636]

The fact this woman is free and already manipulating people is wild

[@jenniferwilliams3986]

She’s showing everyone her true colors . I had second hand embarrassment over her “ Chad “ clip 🤣 and she hopes her mom is proud of her accomplishments from her Mother’s Day tribute 💀🤣 all she’s showing is that her mother taught her to be a good manipulator and liar

[@huskitaloves8654]

This case has always been so sad for me. She deserved better. He was so vulnerable. Urgh. Just so complex and so much damage.

[@meganlangreck2488]

Indeed. They are doing their detective thing now, and upholding the law now, but where was the law when Gypsy's mom was doing those things to her.

[@ScoutsPatterson]

@@meganlangreck2488 While DD was an absolute POS, Gypsy fully participated in her Mom’s endless schemes. She loved the free house, free cash and free Disney trips. She wasn’t victimized, she was a co-grifter. She claims she “wouldn’t be believed” if she told police, all she would’ve had to do was call them, jump out of the wheel chair and run circles around it. Pretty sure they’d believe her then. Plus her Dad and stepmom would’ve believed her, but she didn’t even make an attempt. She should’ve gotten the life sentence, she’s the one that used an autistic boy to do her bidding then throw him under the bus immediately.

[@FlyGuyKai23]

@@ScoutsPatterson stop copying pasting this bs. We know what happen was bad to DD, however, trying to run away, teeth missing and having to stay in a wheel chair. Not glamorous. Being raised by that type of person, your whole life can be damaging.

[@dollinterrupted]

@@ScoutsPatterson that makes no sense. Deedee had Munchausen by Proxy. She was abusing Gypsy since before Gypsy could even talk. Assuming a child is enjoying and complicit in the abuse their parent is inflicting on them is disturbing and vile.

[@zimmer879]

Should not be legal for police to interrogate someone with obvious cognitive disabilities without a lawyer present. Watching this was very frustrating

[@shadygirlxoxo]

100% agree! They took advantage of that boy, who clearly had an IQ of a minor. That was really frustrating & devastating to watch, as much as that lady interrogator “buttered him up,” it was clear as day that he wasn’t able to understand what was happening, he didn’t have the cognitive abilities to understand his Miranda rights.

[@hensonlaura]

If only people never faked that.

[@kianajohnson8722]

It does feel extremely wrong but when you think about it how many other interrogations have we watched with people who don’t have any disability’s, get sucked in by these interrogators. I just wish everyone knew, it’s okay to ask for a lawyer regardless of whatever the situation may be. In the end justice was served ig

[@vaekkriinhart4347]

I agree with u, but where is the line? Just how smart do u have to be before u don't need a lawyer present? And there's no fkng way this kid should've been sentenced to life in prison. It's absurd. He needs help, not life in prison

[@sweetbeard]

Cry harder for someone that stabbed a woman to death

[@GloryBlaze1]

If I didn't know any better, I would've believed her first story. Also, I really love the fact that that manipulative little girl was masterfully manipulated by the detective.

[@tulli9864]

I’ve seen this story so many times focusing on Gypsy and what she was going through, but there was always so little focus on Nicholas. This video is so important to see what he went through too, and to see what Gypsy’s trauma turned her into. Nicholas is so rarely shown as a victim and this video is so important.

[@_bluephoenix_]

Ive always been torn by this case. As otherd have said, if Gypsy had killed her mother it may well have been ruled justifiable homicide. She was raised to believe manipulation = love. You have to make people show their love by doing things that arent normal. He was not (in my opinion) of sound mind to be interrogated without representation or even charged with murder as he is clearly of diminished mental acuity. He was vulnerable and felt he was doing what needed to be done to earn Gypsy's love and them to be together. Is it all justified and right? No. They should be punished however, neither of them are mentally stable enough to understand the ramifications nor were in a position to ask for help before the act or during interrogation. This case is just sad and highlights how many people failed them both. From those close to them and medical professionals alike.

[@pambeforethestorm9784]

Thank you, this comment hits the nail right on the head 💯

[@Nightman221k]

She mentioned in the documentary how Tangled was her favorite Disney movie and talked about when Eugene cut Rapunzel’s hair and killed Gothel. Gypsy wanted to live out her fantasy of a fairytale. It was her idea of being the princess she saw herself as.

[@buttercxpdraws8101]

They both deserve help and a chance at life.

[@gorilla3]

@@buttercxpdraws8101 no they don’t

[@electrickrain]

Its deeper than that with him. He WANTED to kill someone. Even talked about raping the mother's dead corpse. Research the case. He's sick.

[@dharmallars]

The thing about this whole case that really chills me is that this all probably started the very day gypsy was born if not sooner. Her mother was relishing in the attention from being at the hospital while she was born and there’s no way in hell she didn’t think to herself that she’d do anything to get back in that position again while sitting in that hospital bed holding her newborn baby.

[@Joshua-sp6gg]

I've never really felt for a murderer the way I feel for this guy.

[@a.N.....]

Pussy can be quite the persuader huh

[@cynthiacromwell8002]

I dont understand how professional doctors are scammed by that freaky looking mother. To just carry out these procedures on gypsy for conditions that did not even exist?? Wtf???? Nobody picked up on anything also i know truth can be stranger than fiction. I know gypsy was a victim too but she the monster her mother created. She was at a motel with him making recordings calling eachother pet names. Then she abandoned him afterwards. Nomore 🎥 n attention. Shes inlove n engaged. Just wowww i guarantee she not intouch with him ever. Imean its been years now though. Im sure its all easier said than done. She was a master manipulator. Paid a small price n i hope hes not rotting. The system chews peopleup.

[@matthewanthony4606]

@@cynthiacromwell8002 yeah, This story doesn’t add up

[@Mr.Veridical]

@@cynthiacromwell8002 Seriously. Wouldn't the docs do tests beforehand and find that she didn't have this huge list of ailments? Complete fail on their part....but hospitals are run as businesses now, so money is the only thing that matters to them. Truth be damned.

[@lubabe9969]

Right?! That detective should lose her job for not explaining he needs a lawyer, she makes all detectives look trashy

[@thebusinesswoman23]

What a tangled web this story is. I've seen many documentaries about this case but hadn't seen the actual interrogation of Nicholas before. I am so conflicted about his sentencing because I'm not sure how competent he is mentally. I feel like mental health treatment would help him much more than simply prison. He is easily manipulated. Gypsy went thru years of abuse. Neither are totally innocent , obviously. It's a perfect storm. Sad story all around.

[@Bexks]

In the Uk where I live he wouldn’t of been able to be interrogated without a “responsible adult” with him, even with legal counsel there as he’s on the spectrum. His sentence is totally unfair as he doesn’t fully understand the ramifications of what he’s done.

[@iamNatashiaB]

Yea, I feel that not only was he manipulated by Gypsy, but the detectives as well. One conversation with this young man, and you would know he has some sort of deficiency. I don’t agree with his sentence. Nor do I agree with Gypsy’s. They were 2 children playing “adult”.

[@jediping]

I would mind neither sentence if they shared it-10 for him or 30 for her. He does know murder was wrong, but you could argue her manipulation makes him less culpable. You could also argue her forethought and planning and denial of responsibility makes her as guilty of first degree as him. I can’t help but feel the prosecutor was swayed by her tears more than he should have been.

[@Blake1720]

He should have been convicted to life in an institution rather than prison

[@allisonjames2923]

He’s able to make decisions independently enough to live on his own without needing an adult guardian. He knew that murder was wrong & felt guilty afterwards. His vulnerability was his attachment disorder & obsession with Gypsy, not his autism. He’s competent enough to choose to be a murderer & to tell Gypsy to cover her ears & stay in the bathroom because he knew it would be brutal & painful. If the victim was an innocent good person & Gypsy just wanted to be free of her & have access to the money she had, how would that change your perspective?

[@Princesskeywest]

The Grammy absolutely sent me. I’ve seen a lot of media coverage factual and dramatized about this case- and at no point did I fully grasp how intelligent Gypsy actually is. She really did “learn [manipulation] from the best.” Absolutely insane. Even at that I still feel so much sympathy for her and the ordeal she had to endure her entire life. Not saying it’s right, but I truly can see why she did what she did. The saddest part of all of this to me is the fact a lovesick, deeply mentally unstable bystander just by chance happened to get involved in this situation. Not that he is innocent or justified either, especially hearing his prior charge. But both of these individuals needed help so badly. The entire situation is so sickening and devastating.

[@dirkaminimo4836]

How does somebody lock the bathroom from the outside?

[@lawlaw4109]

Except a Grammy is for music and an academy award (Oscar) is for acting lol. Oopsie

[@shygirlflygirl]

This case makes me so angry. The amount of time she got, compared to the amount of time Nick got is crazy. Yes, she was a victim of her mother, but Nick became a victim of Gypsy. They should have both gotten the same amount of time. Anybody could see that Nick was not mentally healthy. He wouldn't have even tried to cover up the crime. She planned everything from beginning to end and yet he is the only one in jail for the rest of his life. The sentence should have been increased for Gypsy.

[@awkwardautistic]

Obviously he was proven to be competent...he knew what he was doing. Autistic people can commit some horrible crimes just like anyone else.

[@shygirlflygirl]

@@awkwardautistic Judging by your username, I'm assuming you're making an assumption about my view of autistic people. I wasn't talking about him being autistic; I was speaking on his disposition. It looks like he didn't see he'd done anything wrong which to me says he has a couple of screws loose. Yes, the court did see him competent enough to stand trial and clearly he is capable of committing a terrible crime, but in his case he's pretty much being punished like he acted alone. Gypsy literally put the knife in his hand, so like I said, in my opinion, they should have gotten the same sentence or at the least, Gypsy should have gotten a bit more time than she did.

[@alvashie1510]

finally, someone said it ! Imo I really think Gypsy is more evil and manipulative. Just watching one of the interviews, where she pretends to not know her mom is dead is just gross

[@shygirlflygirl]

@@alvashie1510 yeah, I hardly ever see this kind of comment on any of the videos I've seen about Gypsy, so it's a pretty unpopular opinion, but I'm okay with that lol. She didn't deserve the abuse her mom subjected her to, but she shouldn't be getting a slap on the wrist for facilitating a murder either.

[@missyrahrah6991]

Agree. Completely 100%. Gypsy is SOOOO manipulative.

[@meglea7065]

Everyone was a victim and a perpetrator. Mental health is so important folks.

[@pambeforethestorm9784]

Well said 💯💯

[@duMaurier15]

That is why people with mental health problems needs to be monitored or locked up.. Mental Health is not an excuse to be a disruptive person to society but unfortunately with the radical left in politics the mentally ill are having their ways.

[@NannupTiger]

@@duMaurier15 - I agree with this statement 100%

[@attentiondeficitsquirrel7660]

@@duMaurier15 revolving door policies.

[@cactuscallie5090]

SO well said!

[@Unhyphenated]

It's really concerning that police would interrogate a clearly mentally challenged young man without automatically brining a lawyer in. I believe it reasonabke to say that Nicolas was not capable of throwing out his rights.

[@Ilove2teach52]

As a teacher, I have seen some of these behaviors. They have to be addressed early in a child’s life. I’m wondering if his family tried to get him help! The Mother is the classic case of Munchausen by Proxy. Gypsy never had a chance in hell with her Mother.

[@awkwardautistic]

What behaviors?

[@TheLeadSled]

It is a sad story of that there is no doubt. I had a friend whom I went to Elementary School and Middle School with, in October 1987 he took a shotgun and killed both his parents, I knew him so well and with some people you just never see these things coming. Btw I just found out he just got parole which shocked me, I know 1987 was a long time ago but his crime was brutal and there's people that get life on one murder, I don't know what I'll say to him when I run in to him because this is a small town and I'm sure I'll see him at the market or the mall etc...

[@Ilove2teach52]

@@TheLeadSled oh wow. That is absolutely horrific and sad all at the same time. Sometimes children say things and we take it as child’s play or acting. A lot of the time there is a lot of truth in there with some exaggeration. It all has to be addressed. That could be the difference of life vs death. Good luck to you.

[@robg8203]

@@awkwardautistic yes, I'd like to know what behaviors/signs you could spot to stop a child from continuing down a bad path.

[@g.r.bilyeu4226]

All that highly specialized training you received "As a teacher"... LMMFAO!

[@chelscara]

It’s an awful chain reaction of abuse. Gypsy’s mom abused her to the point she thought this was how she could escape. Nick was manipulated by Gypsy to do something awful he never would have done. While it’s good the only physical harm that happened ended up being done to the mom (ya reap what ya sow), Nick’s life didn’t deserve to be thrown into this hurricane.

[@allisonjames2923]

Would he really never have done this if she hadn’t manipulated him though? If he was in love with someone who was being physically abused, even if she never manipulated him, just confided in him as a friend & was attracted to him, don’t you think that he would have murdered the abuser so he could be with her? It’s not about his autism since he’s not that significantly impaired in his thinking. It’s more about his attachment disorder & the lengths he would go to, to be with a girl who would love him the way he was desperate for someone to. Someone who would masturbate publicly for 9 hours has serious boundary issues to start with

[@mrclean1202]

That’s why you never get in a relationship with women Master manipulators they are

[@Gwentheferret]

NO! She deserved first degree murder charges! She arranged everything. She manipulated him into doing it. Her treatment at the hand of her mom is irrelevant! SHE RUINED HIS LIFE! Gypsy deserved the SAME PUNISHMENT!

[@foots-qt4pk]

The police should have provided this man an attorney before questioning. This is SO wrong.

[@Buffalo_billi]

The police don’t care about civil rights or whether or not he has the right representation

[@charrknado]

Not their job

[@kiaharper7172]

​@@charrknado second that

[@Nahnah111]

Even the interrogator at the beginning is speaking to him like he’s a child…his situation makes me absolutely sick.

[@MrThankman360]

Well, dude did say “it’s called a ham sandwich...”

[@624radicalham]

@@MrThankman360 and sometimes it comes with mayonnaise

[@sm3296]

Right from the moment she walked in to the room she did. This is awful to see.

[@kylespratt4072]

than asking if he ejaculated like wtf

[@MrEvanNoyes]

@@MrThankman360 That’s a special thing he created, ok?

[@holfwaley3973]

I'd heard of this story before but never once heard about Nicholas Godejohn, which is a tragedy. I am honestly feeling anger towards Gypsy, especially knowing in a few short years she will be walking free and Nick will be behind bars until he's an old man.

[@TheBestMovieAlive]

behind bars until he's old? No, Nick will die in prison and this manipulative girl will be free in 10yrs. How the hell did she get 2nd degree murder after she planned to murder her mother and then manipulated an autistic guy to commit it. She got off easy.

[@ambereleasexo]

EXACTLY.

[@Eyewonder3210]

There's something else that should be contemplated here. A sick mother who went to such horrible extremes with a child, was going to be faced with that child growing up and walking away, exposing her. There was no way out of that. I believe she would have killed gypsy and soaked up all the sympathy for losing her sick child. It really was the only way out for the mother. Think about it.

[@patriciacurtis349]

absolutely agree

[@79Bobola]

100 percent agree. She destroyed her life.

[@mellowyello1478]

There are no innocent people in this case, but Nicholas was probably the only true victim

[@beeeeeeeee7951]

@@mellowyello1478 omg thank you. I really don’t perceive gypsy as a victim victim. Unpopular opinion

[@endearmentthedoe1191]

It really wasn’t the only way out, though. And I don’t look at her as a full on victim, at all.

[@raybishop85]

I remember reading about this murder when it first happened, seeing the interrogation put an even more twisted light on it. Thank you so much, please keep these great videos coming

[@victoriadelaney1123]

There are so many docs on here about it. And where she is now...it's a good deep dive.

[@user-jy2sj4ed4i]

@@victoriadelaney1123 which docs do you recommend?

[@victoriadelaney1123]

@@user-jy2sj4ed4i mommy dead & dearest….

[@GrabEmByThePlushie]

Thanks for covering the guy. It seems to me like everyone focuses on Gypsy Rose.

[@Diego_Covre]

I find it extremely unfair that Nick got life in prison while Gypsy only got 10 years. She was looking for a vulnerable man to manipulate. She was the one who orchestrated everything, if she just never found Nick, she would have just found someone else to do it.

[@danielwggudan2]

A) he should be in an institution not prison, he’s clearly not ok mentally, and b) while I agree she should get the life also, I’m sorry but mom got the karma she had been asking for for years, cause she had been torturing her own child her whole life. I don’t feel bad for dee dee in the least. Zero

[@jediping]

Very much agree. I think she manipulated things for that, too. He clearly was not on the best path, but I don’t know if he would have gone as fully into it if he hadn’t met her.

[@optimusprimer4392]

But hey women need rights to and equality LOL

[@vladimirsolovyov666]

Well Gypsy was abused and tortured all her life and conspired to have her abuser murdered so she could escape that situation. While Nick killed a person he didn't know (he said himself he only later found out what kind of person dd was) just to have intercourse with a girl he met online. But I can understand why you guys identify more with Nick....

[@jediping]

@@vladimirsolovyov666 I never said I identify more with him than her. But he clearly has a lower IQ and was treated badly by the justice system, which manipulated him as easily as Gypsy did. I have sympathy for him trying to live in a society not willing to help him, just as I have sympathy for her having been the victim of such a parent. But Gypsy could have just run away, or even done the deed herself and likely faced no more and maybe even less punishment than she did. But she wanted to get off if at all possible, so she manipulated Nick. He loved her with an unhealthy obsession that clearly he had nobody to help him temper and control. He thought he was protecting her, and as others have pointed out, it’s probable Deedee would eventually have tried to kill Gypsy, so there’s an element of defense that I get. I just don’t get why the same mitigating circumstances in her case didn’t apply to his, nor why the aggravating circumstances in his didn’t apply to her. It was premeditated, it was Gypsy’s plan, and Nick was her weapon. But he clearly has a lower mental capacity and other neurodivergent issues and she was being abused. So why the disparity in sentences?

[@NORTAH85]

There’s no way he should’ve been interviewed without counsel!

[@kel3678]

Well they needed the truth and they got it.

[@FlyGuyKai23]

@@kel3678 DO NOT TALK TO LAW ENFORCEMENT!!

[@pambeforethestorm9784]

@@FlyGuyKai23 Exactly 💯 like Ever!!!

[@Richard_Nickerson]

No one should

[@rootpt]

If the victim was someone in your family, sunddenly you would understand why they behave like that.

[@YayMiko]

How did they get approved for surgery to fix problems that didn’t exist?? Was there ever a point where the docs opened her up and said “wait a minute… this girl is fine!”

[@N3Rd32]

Because in America it's all about money not health.

[@gilpintracy]

@@N3Rd32 That is truly sad, but absolutely true..

[@modestmeeshka]

If I remember correctly, they had been told that by numerous doctors but then you just keep getting "second opinions" until someone just wants to make that sweet sweet money

[@kenya1067]

I seriously wondered that. But she kept changing doctors and lying all the time so idk if she was fabricating forms or not. In the hulu series she stole a doctor's prescription pad. So she may have been doing something like that but that still doesn't explain away how the doctors were operating and not noticing nothing was wrong. But idk. Maybe some surgeries are placebos 😮 no idk. Because if she was a kid idk really this is a good question. I wish some of the doctors came forward.

[@louisacapell]

If you shop around for long enough you'll find a doctor that will do just about anything. And then once you get that fake diagnosis from one doctor you can take it to a more reputable Doctor who will see it, and believe it, and then continue to prescribe treatment. And then once you've got that you can tell your kid to fake certain symptoms or you can make the kid sick yourself, and then they'll see that along with the prior diagnosis and give you more diagnoses and once you got a whole bunch of them then doctors will just believe what you tell them!!

[@Hunter-qv1ye]

Before even being told her mom was dead she told the detective “my mother HAD a laptop” pretty much a giveaway right there

[@ExtraterrestrialExcrement]

Ooooh,Well Spotted. 😃

[@Hollywood42081]

Well maybe the laptop broke and she didn't have one anymore. Not a giveaway

[@adamburdt8794]

If I was to quote you I may say. "Hunter HAD a good point when saying (she used past tense)." Doesn't mean you are dead. However, I agree with you

[@pambeforethestorm9784]

Great point! 💯 although it could have meant something else too but you spotted what a lot of us missed

[@socore4659]

This is the kind of thinking that gets people wrongly convicted. Detectives get things like this in their heads and get tunnel vision.

[@tonyportillo694]

He killed somebody, yes he does need to be in jail. But man he needed someone in his corner helping him through everything. There’s gotta be a thing where if a person isn’t at a certain IQ level or any mental disability, they have to be automatically assigned a lawyer.

[@DMR1010]

Or an appropriate adult like the uk. This would NEVER happen here, it’s utterly despicable….

[@pambeforethestorm9784]

@@DMR1010 Agreed. America is one of the worst countries in a lot of ways....he never should have been seen without a lawyer present due to his mental state. So many people failed not only her, but especially him

[@Jenger420]

Look up the story how in FL an undercover female officer started a relationship with a young man with autism, convinced him that she was in love with him, to go out and find her pot, only to arrest him. Police are disgusting

[@DMR1010]

@@pambeforethestorm9784 completely agree, they disgust me!

[@DMR1010]

@@Jenger420 that is utterly despicable, shame on them. Their system needs a full reboot

[@profpurewater]

"it's called a ham sandwich, they also offer it with mayonnaise." ,..........Wow sounds exotic

[@TheLeadSled]

I have to say, I have watched a myriad of these types of channels, some good some not so good, but I will give you props. You do a fantastic job, as someone that has a small channel myself I know what you do is an insane amount of work, so from an old combat veteran I want to say good job, keep up the good work

[@DystortdSacrifice]

This happened where I live. The house is by the zoo. Gypsy was taught manipulative behavior, what else would she know? Either way, Nick is so obviously on the spectrum. He should be in a hospital, not prison. Also I totally believe he could be reintegrated into society with no problems.

[@jediping]

I don’t know if I agree on that last part. He could I feel easily fall into the same trap without someone watching over him. I want to think he would be fine, but it seems to me he doesn’t necessarily know enough to keep himself out of the same kind of trouble. And we do a terrible job if helping ex-cons reintegrate.

[@Nightman221k]

If he had a caretaker to stop him from being manipulated and taken advantage of he wouldn’t be a danger to anyone.

[@user-jy2sj4ed4i]

No problems but spanking it for 9 hrs in public

[@johnnysworld2845]

Yeah until someone else manipulates him to kill again.

[@herokillerinc]

Uuhhhh, NO. Heavily on the Spectrum, mind warped by porn and BDSM ideation, highly manipulable, masturbating for hours in public, and a murderer... NOPE. NADA. ZIP. The humane thing would be to put him down, both for societies' sake and his own.

[@shewho333]

Jeez this detective, knowing he’s obviously vulnerable, is EVERY BIT as manipulative and wrong as anyone in this story. How could they even use this?

[@battlekitten4188]

Thank you for telling his side. I saw this too. He would have never done this if it had been for her. And she is going free

[@annemarietaube6335]

When ur fed lies your whole life by the person you look to for guidance & care, that's all you know. She was held prisoner for 18 years. They are both victims.

[@a.N.....]

Who cares she handled it all wrong. We judge people by how they get up from falling down not the fall.

[@gorilla3]

She shouldn’t have manipulated someone to kill her mom. Dumb bitches do dumb things

[@robertsmith3672]

50 lashes for every. Ok.

[@forpetessake3532]

@@a.N..... that mentality isn't suitable in the case of cold blooded murder

[@a.N.....]

@@forpetessake3532 good people dont in turn manipulate others.

[@ConstantCompanion]

I know a girl like this. All the way down to the baby voice. She's exactly the same way. She'll cook up the story so fast it'll make your head spin.

[@KenKaniffFromConnecticut]

Detective: So what was sex like for you both? Nicholas: Well, it was 100% consensual.

[@bradenspringer]

Always a good answer.

[@KrystieNichole]

Not exactly understanding why she needed the in-depth details regarding their sex life. Am I missing the relevance?

[@LaurenWoz421]

@@KrystieNichole eh I think it was to drive the point home in court on just how twisted they acted immediately after the murder. But yeah, details like that are really necessary.. just “they had sex after murdering her mother” would be enough to make a point in Court.

[@scottj4641]

@@KrystieNichole I assumed it was in case Gypsy as well as pinning Nick with murder also tried to pin him with rape. Update as I continue listening: That's exactly what she does.

[@gbresaleking]

That's how I describe my sex life as well when asked

[@kathrinen3834]

Ooookay. Hold on there. She starts going off on this train about how Gypsy has revealed everything and then she starts listing the most generic bullshit. She told us what happened! She told us that her mom was killed, how you met and that clean up happened. 🤦🏼‍♀️ I’ve never heard that part of his interrogation and it bothers me intensely that there wasn’t a lawyer there. He did it, obviously, but tricking someone clearly vulnerable is a shitty way to go about things.

[@a.N.....]

Hey if you're too dumb to give up your co-conspirator that also turned on you than that's par for the course. Are you mad that cops lie?

[@cruisinguy6024]

In the US cops are allowed to lie during interrogation - and you have to directly invoke your constitutional rights. An example of this is you’re not getting a lawyer unless you specifically say something along the lines of “I want an attorney and will not answer any questions without them present. “ It’s pretty messed up. Cops prey on this.

[@RachelRichards]

I don't think it's wrong at all. The truth is the truth, and he was the best way to get it. Gypsy was ruined by her mother, and thus became a monster. She deserved to be destroyed by the same man she manipulated.

[@shaunmm2k]

Gypsy claimed rape, what a manipulative itch. She orchestrated the whole thing and her betrayal of her vulnerable boyfriend was complete. Her 10 year sentence is an injustice.

[@jo4210]

Obviously he deserves punishment for killing someone, but I cannot help but feel soooo bad for Nicholas. He genuinely seems like a sweet, loving guy who would do anything for the girl he loves. I feel like if he hadn’t met gypsy but met someone else who he had the same love for who didn’t have such a troubled past to the point of asking him to murder for them, he’d probably be so happy and free right now.

[@MrDeelightful]

I've always been really torn on these types of cases. As a product of a pretty messed up home I have a lot of sympathy for kids who kill their parents because even prison is better than home. Where Gypsy crossed a really big line was involving someone else, I can't have much sympathy for someone who totally threw their partner under the bus once he wasn't useful anymore. Medical abuse is the stuff of nightmares but that's pretty cruel and calculating stuff there.

[@DerrisDerrison]

Agreed, with his mental health problems he was very easy to manipulate, Gypsy certainly suffered under her mum but there's no doubt about her using him, I feel like their sentences shod be equal but the fact he's got life while she received a very light sentence seems very unfair especially considering she was the instigator.

[@jo4210]

@@MrDeelightful that’s exactly how I feel. Like, I do feel so bad for what her mom put her through. She was mentally abused and I would definitely consider the unnecessary medical care to be physical abuse because it was ruining her brain and body. But I can’t help but lose all respect for her when she sits in the interrogation room and does the exact same shit she killed her mom over. If she had just been forward from the jump about why she did what she did, it would be a lot easier to forgive. But Nicholas didn’t deserve to be dragged into that. He just wanted affection and to protect her in return.

[@MrDeelightful]

He never would have killed anyone in his whole life if she hadn't manipulated and strong-armed him into a murder plot, I'm sure of it. He may have done the actual act but Gypsy made it the only possible option.

[@algorerhythm3578]

I feel like McDonald's workers subjected to his nine hour knife wielding masturbation session would disagree with you.

[@Blackatchaproduction]

Dude on the spectrum got played hard. Kinda feel bad for him

[@XViTNg]

Eh. Nowadays doctors diagnose every young person with anxiety depression bi polar and on the spectrum I’m pretty sure he knew what was up.

[@paul44foster]

I feel really bad for him.

[@ksiglobalunited]

He should not be free, but neither should she. It’s insane that he is serving a life sentence, and she is out free literally capitalizing off of murder, and selling the story for money and fame. She knew what she was doing, and she manipulated him because she knew that she could. It’s so obvious when you watch her interrogation, and even her interviews. She tries to manipulate everyone she talks to into feeling sorry for her, and blaming Nick for the entire things. Even after getting sentenced to prison for the crime, she still blames it on him. She literally said in an interview “I wish he would’ve been more responsible” and “I didn’t hold a gun to his head and make him do it”. She should be serving a life sentence as well. Just think about it, she committed murder and now has millions of followers from the crime! It’s literally insane.

[@sluggy6074]

When the interrogator told her that her mom was dead and kept trying to get her attention while she was crying telling her to look at the pencil I was half expecting him to go "You see this pencil? Basically this is your mom" *breaks pencil in half*

[@thetoaster6413]

Oh, I've heard about this case of Munchausens by Proxy, but I never knew the other side of the story from the perspective of the boyfriend. Thanks so much for bringing this to light and for summarizing the interrogation videos.

[@ReiRei992]

And she's out now. While this guy is going to spend the rest of his life in jail.

[@krissyhansen902]

I hate this case. My son has autism and to know how easily they can be influenced just has my blood pressure up and I'm going to say it....Nick was a victim and I do not believe he deserves to in prison for life. Nope. That girl knew what she was doing. She was trained by the best, her mother. She knew what to do and she got away with murder. She could have gotten away yrs ago from her Mom, she didn't say a word. She stayed and played along. Now this young man has lost his life to her as well. To say it's disgusting, is an understatement.

[@PeteRockChronicles]

Same here. My little dude is so sweet, and he just believes in good. I get worried about him being duped by others. I'm doing my best to teach him to be independent, to really what people do, and to not just listen to what they say they do.

[@sabaanadeem6294]

My brother is 16 with autism and i worry about him being influenced like this . Its a harsh world

[@H_A_L_7]

@@sabaanadeem6294 Be there for him and don’t let strangers near him until you’re confident they have good intentions. That girl used the poor boy. She’s as screwed up as her mum.

[@TreasureHuntingNana]

I agree with your statements about Nick.... but don't forget Gypsy was raised/trained to be what she become.. her mother abused her and stole 19 years of her life.... niether should be in jail, and it should be put down to justice served on the mother...

[@onba7726]

I mostly agree with you expect for the part about Gypsy being able to speak up. The girl was basically tortured her whole life and regardless of how evil she either was or wasn't, if she thought speaking alone would of saved her she would of done it. She also saw first hand her mother manipulate (from her perspective) the entire world to get tons of money and even a free house. I think she used Nick too and took notes from her mother but if you watch a Gypsy focused video you can understand why she would think it was her only why out. I also think there wasn't a way for this girl to have turned out a good person under her mother. That woman basically never let the girl leave her side.

[@treepotato9273]

Gypsy is 100% a horror movie character. The name, the cutesy baby voice, her background, the way she plays everyone around her, it really takes me a lot of mental reshuffling to accept that this is a real situation with real people.

[@louisbarningham]

Her voice is so anoyying! agh

[@josephgilbert9800]

Agreed. A manufactured type of evil. So naked and alien from "nature". a human manufactured evil. so strange.

[@meghangriffin8634]

I was thinking the same thing. Like this is so unbelievable. It’s insane how far people will go.

[@CasperInkyMagoo]

Baby voice is almost always an indicator of childhood trauma. They stop progressing their speech at the age they were traumatized.

[@oafishblowfish8951]

Reality is usually much more twisted than fiction, which is a fact few people appreciate.

[@jaja-cg9yd]

Gypsy is terrifying. It'll be interesting to see what she gets up to when she's released from prison.

[@SmittenKitten.]

How the hell did they allow Godejohn to be interrogated without someone there? That detective understood that this kid didn't have the capacity to truly understand what he was saying/doing (in the bigger picture, that is) during the interrogation, yet she pushed on.

[@Apostletrendy]

Because it’s not about what’s ethical, it’s about the results. Loads are detectives are lazy bums who would rather have a coerced confession than no confession at all. In this case they prayed on his disability and used his low intelligence against him. He did the crime, the issue is that his awareness about the crime he was committing and the manipulation behind it, It’s a terrible case all around.

[@mellowyello1478]

Its as if you should never trust the police, ever.

[@SmittenKitten.]

@@Apostletrendy I understand he did the crime, and he should have consequences for that, but the sleazy practices of these detectives makes my skin crawl.

[@SmittenKitten.]

@@mellowyello1478 Hahaha!!

[@Catsss1017]

I have always always felt so sorry for him. I believe he truly felt that he was saving her and he did. I wish they would have sentenced him to a hospital untill he got better. I don’t believe he is a danger to society at all.

[@jessisamess8]

You have the perfect voice for your content ! I love it ♥️ keep up the great work

[@jamestrebillcock4718]

Red Tree crime groupies

[@blindingskies]

Oof.

[@LynaGalliara]

Agree, it makes such a difference, some channels don't have the voice and I just quit on them without giving them a chance, however unfair that is, however much other effort they may have put into their content, narration seems to play such a crucial role when watching true crime.

[@ramonaagachi]

Thank you for making justice in this case. Brilliant!

[@justinbrandt8415]

The fact that the interrogator speaks to him like he's 10 years old speaks volumes. Gives me Brendan Dassey vibes

[@prospectingron2.013]

For a 3rd grader, she has a very good vocabulary...sickening

[@AD-HVAC]

His confession should have been thrown out. Her manipulation of his simple mind is kind of sick. “If you love her then you wouldn’t want her to be in trouble without you being there too, to help her”

[@Dingomush]

All I can think is that when that chick gets paroled, they better keep an eye on her. She’ll be no good for anybody……..

[@crazypsychoamy1021]

You got that right.

[@Hollywood42081]

She's apparently engaged to some loser who simps over her and puts money on her books. She's still manipulative and always will be

[@truth4004]

All because of her dear mother.

[@Dingomush]

@@truth4004: True Dat!

[@Anastashya]

Sadly, very true!

[@Gothicrift]

I’ve never seen this case from this angle! 🥳 Fantastic to hear new things!

[@clayton56tube]

what kind of doctors prescribe unnecessary procedures? They know when someone is faking an illness.

[@fancykarlmarx]

The cop is manipulating him. it’s absolutely cruel to not get him a lawyer because he obviously shouldn’t be interrogated alone.

[@SheilaHenderson-s7d]

Their job is simply to simply get them to say “I killed …” in some form. They don’t care and they will always try and downplay your Miranda rights. Everyone that commits crimes should know to not talk to police without a lawyer . Maybe if he didn’t kill someone he wouldn’t be in this predicament 😂

[@33greenleaf]

What hard parameters would you set in place to trigger the need for the police to provide an attorney without the suspect requesting one. You’ll need to be as specific as possible. There can’t be any vagueness in these parameters. My guess is you have no idea how to set these parameters, and you’re opinion is based on emotions, not legality.

[@Hey___you]

My favorite part of this case is that DeeDee's parents didn't want her ashes. Flush 'em down the toilet.

[@forpetessake3532]

so she got filtered and funneled back into our homes as drinking water - recycled mom

[@bcgrote]

Very interesting to see "the other side" of this case. So much was said about DeeDee, but no one discussed how Nick was manipulated! He was always presented as a criminal element and all around bad guy, but he wasn't. What a sad case all around.

[@mrspaceforever]

she was definitely a manipulator just like her mother, which no one could expect more. she should’ve got more time for being a liar. what Nick did was wrong but I never felt he deserved the time he got 🙃

[@samomico9536]

What? Girl you gotta have the same IQ as the girls boyfriend to say something so stupid like that. Just tell me how is she supposed to know any different? She was taught that by her mother, that’s ALL she knows. She was literally tortured and imprisoned all her life. She was butchered on the operating table through countless surgeries even though she was completely normal and healthy, her teeth rotted out, she was forced to be in a wherlchair and forced to use a fucking feeding tube all her life. Just so her mother could collect on the money. She wasn’t allowed ANY outside influence, was monitored all her life and had no guidance so tell me if that’s all she knows and had no guidance or love from a normal parent how the fuck is she supposed to know better?? She has gone through all that LITERAL torture and now you’re telling me she deserved prison? Read some books, try understanding why people do what they do, I know you’re not a psych major or anything but neither am I and I can still tell that gypsy is a victim.

[@vincedidiana5781]

@goddess Anese. God Bless goddess Anese 🔥

[@gm6393]

I don’t think she deserved longer, she just protected herself. Lying is wrong but it shouldn’t constitute a higher sentence when the crime itself it much more severe than just lying. The issue isn’t with her shorter sentence, it’s with how long they made his sentence

[@eflow4786]

@@gm6393 she was the mastermind over a simple man’s mind. He deserves longer. Whatever

[@jborrego2406]

He murder someone

[@cactuscallie5090]

This is a fascinating story. One that I have seen and read about numerous times. What I always wondered was - How did the doctors who saw and treated Gypsy for all of these illnesses that weren't there, MISS that? She had multiple surgeries for God's sake! I am assuming DeDe would claim Gypsy has some serious health problem that requires surgery. Somehow, she would actually get scheduled for the surgery. Which is already insane and confusing as hell, because I assume doctors check the patient and run tests to verify and confirm a specific problem that needs surgery. So... they just ignored the fact that she was healthy and didn't have the health problem her mother said she does? And then went and did surgery??? And during the surgery, did they not open her up and see nothing wrong and think "Hmmmm... that's odd..." ??? And we're not even talking about ONE doctor. Obviously, MULTIPLE doctors were involved. So seriously- WHAT THE F*CK HAPPENED THERE???? It's honestly mind boggling to me.

[@sophg685]

Yeah I don’t get this either. I’m in the UK mind and it’s hard enough getting the surgeries that people blatantly and definitely need.

[@thatsaniceboulder1483]

DD shopped around for Dr’s. They moved around for a bit, medical records got lost and yeah, Dr shopped. If a Dr asked too many questions, they went elsewhere.

[@cactuscallie5090]

@@thatsaniceboulder1483 I know. But STILL! It's just crazy to me, bc what she claimed Gypsy had wrong w her was all PHYSICAL stuff that any doctor should be able to confirm, or in Gypsy's cases, realize it's total BS. I think along with medical records getting "lost" and whatnot, it's also proof how how imperfect the system is. No matter how serious the subject that a system or department is supposed to be in charge of - health, child safety, etc. - sh!t always falls through thr cracks.

[@chrisbaker5568]

@@thatsaniceboulder1483 I think you’re right, and I think if that’s the case the doctors should be held accountable and forget or suspend their license

[@ginaverdi6101]

Yeah it is crazy that doctors would actually do surgery on that poor girl,without thoroughly checking her first,Her mom must of been extremely convincing!

[@fayewray7840]

Watched this again after seeing all of the celebratory posts about Gypsy Rose’s release. There is no hero in this story. Every person involved made the wrong choice.

[@seanh21]

That guy lost me with the snowball analogy 😂

[@Debo_OG]

I feel for these kids. Gypsie was manipulated her whole life, it’s all she knew. It’s not hard to understand how she would then turn around and manipulate. But they both knew what they were doing was wrong. Period.

[@alwayswondering127]

She wasn’t just manipulated though, she was abused, she had medical procedures she didn’t need inflicted on her, when she tried to run away her mother found her and handcuffed her to the bed. This is far bigger than just manipulation.

[@michaels7325]

@@alwayswondering127 She was at least 19. All she had to do was just leave. Makes me wonder if their was some revenge intended.

[@kgarrison343]

People say this shit and its obvious they have never experienced manipulative abuse. "Why not just walk away?" Because they are being manipulatively abused moron!

[@alwayswondering127]

@@michaels7325 what you mean like when she tried to leave and he’s mother tracked her down she’d false ID to the person she was with to make her look underage and then took her home and handcuffed her to the bed? Her mother would have found her again, the woman was tapped.

[@michaels7325]

@@alwayswondering127 What age was she when that happened? People usually don't say they ran away from home when they are legally adults.

[@crystalthow5533]

He really believe he has found his true love for his entire life. I feel so sorry for him and his family

[@dharmallars]

When the detective asked if he loves gypsy and he said “oh, do I ever” it made me so sad :-/ romantic love is really really incredible and beautiful and so enriching to have in your life but it’s so heartbreaking how many people go for the first person they meet who shows them affection because they think they NEED a partner. I wish it was easier to teach kids that a relationship is something that should enhance your life and who you are, not something your life should revolve around. If nick had that understanding, he would realize that this relationship is not worth killing for, and that anyone who loves him would not ask him to do that.

[@pokeydot1975]

It would be interesting to find how DDs childhood was. What led to HER behaviors towards her daughter? I feel so much sympathy for him and Gypsie... More so for him. Sad situation all the way around.

[@Ozknot81]

I'm from the same town dd was from alot of woman act like that there

[@robg8203]

@@Ozknot81 I hate to be nosey but what town? I'm super curious about it now, and wonder if there's been any studies done.

[@M4tti87]

No sympathy at all for Gypsie. She as as evil as Ted Bundy

[@KenzieJordyn]

It’s interesting to think about. I saw somewhere that she basically killed her own mom by basically failing to care for her. So I bet it’s just part of the repeating chain.

[@gogglespisano24]

@@M4tti87 You mean the girl who was abused medically, mentally, physically from birth? The girl who was ut through hundreds of medically unnecessary procedures, had all her teeth taken out, medically induced to be compliant, an to spurn seizures, told her age was years younger than it was, told she was mentally challenged, told her father was a stalker and abuser, was beaten and locked in a closet because she dared reach out to meet a friend at a con that Dee Dee took her to....that Gypsy is the same as Ted Bundy? Just checking.

[@Nyyxxy]

God what angered me the most was Gypsy’s nasally voice 🙂🙂

[@rocknroll19842]

for 9 hours straight? Legend

[@lennyclinton5672]

Hard to believe he pulled that off, eh???

[@budgonstopCANELO]

You’re a lame 🤡

[@jaynefulton473]

😂😂

[@tw200yamaha]

You say it outright that the manipulation doesn't end with Gypsy. It's sad how everyone manipulated everyone in this whole thing..

[@tempbauer2131]

This story is so often told with Gypsy as the “main character” and her interrogation with Nick only as the guy that helped. I felt like Nick shldnt have been charged as he was and even more so now that I’ve seen his interrogation

[@kaseybrewer545]

I really like how you didn't give Gypsy a free pass here, just because she was victimized by her mother. I've always felt bad for Gypsy, but also felt like she manipulated the heck out of Nick in order to get him to kill her mom. Even feeling that way, you pointed out some things I didn't even think of! She really is a master manipulator! That part where she tells the detective she can't spell very well...man! She really was hoping to hang it all on Nick. I've always felt it was unfair that he got life, and she didn't, but now I feel even more bothered by it. He never would've killed anyone had he never met Gypsy. I truly hope she's gotten some help while she's in jail, because that manipulative side to her isn't just going to go away.

[@stephv3270]

She got 10 years and he got life. She got a free pass. She should of gotten life and he should of gotten 10 years.

[@mud6866]

Somebody ought to keep an eye on her !!

[@katscratchfever3506]

Yup. We haven’t heard the last of her.

[@Jason-TheChad-Muska_circa1995]

It's unreal that she got off scot-free and he gets to serve life in prison. Typical American b******* where women are privileged and pretty much get away with anything they want.

[@MsNikkieMichelle]

She unfortunately learned how to manipulate and scheme due to witnessing her mother do it to everyone for years. This is just so sad.

[@kellyharris8976]

Wow. I had no idea he got life. I agree with many comments I’ve read that he should’ve had counsel with him. Not that he shouldn’t serve time but he clearly needed someone by his side throughout the interrogation process.

[@forpetessake3532]

dont you dare blame his parents - my word !

[@JohnEvans-xg2bp]

Gypsy’s voice is unbelievably annoying and terrifying at the same time.

[@plekkchand]

All of these interrogators are simply unable to finish a sentence without the word "Okay". It's extraordinary.

[@beantoes9627]

ABC = always be closing. With my kids, I tried to frame my questions so that they could answer in the affirmative. "Yes" made them feel like they were in control

[@adamburdt8794]

Imagine going from no one even giving you a hug to someone calling you master... Take from that what you will.

[@patriciacurtis349]

dudes a class A creep and not at all as vulnerable as everyone in the comments are making him seem to be. u should read all the messages between the pair. it's sickening. I'm glad he's locked up for however much longer

[@Excalibur2]

@@patriciacurtis349 did you watch the interrogation? The guy is clearly on the spectrum and obviously easily manipulated.

[@askwhateverlol]

@@Excalibur2 so? Being on the spectrum has nothing to do or nothing to excuse MURDER. 🙄

[@Excalibur2]

@@askwhateverlol maybe you're also on the spectrum if you can't understand how it relates to the context. Someone who is easily manipulated is a completely different kind of threat from someone who is capable of manipulating others with no empathy to murder on their behalf. We're talking Charles Manson vs his followers.

[@askwhateverlol]

@@Excalibur2 So being on the spectrum magically excuses stabbing someone to death...okay 😐 sure I'll be on the spectrum if that gives me the excuse to go out and murder someone.

[@YuriTarrdid]

Gypsy is good at acting surprised. Probably the hardest emotion to fake convincingly

[@69SalterStreet]

Always blows my mind how detectives repeat batshit stuff like its the most natural thing in the world.