PoliticsJOE reacts to Starmer laughing at Badenoch at PMQs

[@Fefflefeff]

If I weren't a super hot Politics Joe subscriber who obviously gets drinks bought for them all the time, I'd have felt like Ava was flexing on me.

[@jackbaynes3959]

😂😂😂 Don't worry, no one's flexing. You're both safe

[@zezblit]

Oli gets made editor, immediately uses his new power to get Ava to finally declare her status on nonces

[@franklingoodwin]

It might be just be me but I feel like they over do it. The default position should be to hate nonces. Why do you need to say it?

[@mrdaveythebaby]

Kemi is showing that she's been on easy street her whole life and thought she was a genius...

[@AR-su5wj]

She was working class, didn't ya know

[@DavidManser]

Tbf she's been faced with the bottom of the intellectual barrel of a generation of Tories who have also had it easy and has rarely been pressed by any serious journo who didn't just want a culture war soundbite, so it's entirely understandable.

[@mrdaveythebaby]

@AR-su5wj 🤣🤣

[@grahambuckerfield4640]

@@AR-su5wj Slightly confused when it was said that Starmer and Badenoch had similar educations, she was chauffeured to school in Lagos, was born in a private hospital in London to get a UK passport, (before her heroine Thatcher closed that off), before going back to Nigeria. Both went to University though she seemed to dislike everyone there.

[@Spookyfingers24]

​@@AR-su5wjI remember when I was working class and then middle class and working class again 😂

[@imkjvc2302]

As someone who uses cannabis to manage medical issues I have it’s about time we legalised and taxed it. Absolute nonsense that tobacco and alcohol are legal and yet do far greater damage to people’s bodies and communities than cannabis ever could

[@colincampbell4261]

No tax on medical hash!

[@DG-Gilmore]

@@colincampbell4261 Yes tax and give it to the NHS

[@rosswilliams3310]

Tbh Starmer is really good at finding weaknesses, Johnson was a naughty boy, Sunak supposed expertise was criticized, Kemmi high school reactionary debt is just cast aside, it's almost like he was a lawyer or something.

[@PretentiousPeter]

Eva you are missing the mark with the national insurance contributions analysis. I am a tax analyst for a big law firm. Employers used to pay 13.8% secondary NICs on employee's salary >£9,100 PA. Now they pay 15% on employee's salaries >£5,000 PA. Therefore the change does impact those who hire people on minimum wage, proportionally more than those who higher employees on higher salaries. Before considering minimum wage increases, or the change to employment allowance (the latter doesn't impact anyone but the smallest firms). Let's say an employer has one employee, on £100k. They'd pay £12,544 in NICs before, and £14,250 now. A 13% increase. Compare that to one employee on £20k. They'd pay £1,504 in NICs before, and £2,250 now. A 50% increase. Therefore, if all your business does is pay people minimum wage, your NICs bill has gone way, way up compared a more generous employer. That said, I don't think we should structure society around making it as easy as possible to pay people next to fuck all, and I also wish people who exploit their employees with low pay would shut up whinging.

[@oscarmaclean-or8hx]

Thanks, was wincing at this. Even bigger hike for employers who like many people on part time minimum wage contracts, rather than fewer full time employees for the same total number of employee hours to minimise their NI bill. Question is if the employees like being part time or not. If they'd mostly prefer to be full time.. could be a benefit for employees by closing the loophole

[@sgs9274]

You’re exactly right. When she said this is the group of people who won’t be affected, I thought she was going to say that it was people on minimum wage who can’t have the increased tax cost passed onto them by having their wages suppressed.

[@Jesus_H._Tap-DancingChrist]

"Make life more experience" Notes in front of her and still mucks It up

[@leecooper8589]

Apparently she doesn't make gaffs, though.

[@mynewcolour]

Really weird mistake. Like she wasn’t listening to herself.

[@cbb_o]

the guy behind farage shaking his head - brilliant.

[@mrdaveythebaby]

Did Ed totally miss Eva's joke about the blob or just skim over it because it made him too uncomfortable? 😂

[@1pauljs]

He’s had enough of it after several weeks of the same joke😭🤣

[@TurbulentShrew]

“Questions based on we’re actually doing are usually better than fantasy questions made up” …intelligible, witty and cheerworthy retort Prime Minister!

[@giansideros]

4:46 I worked for Cherwell District Council on the bins years ago, we did our 37.5 hours over 4 days and it was great, I'd rather do that than doing 37.5 across 5 days. I don't know about the admin staff, but as a binman, it was fantastic as far as work life balance goes.

[@alingard1]

Starmer has really grown into this. He was having fun right there. And why the hell not. pmq just got more interesting. I can smell blood.

[@danmayberry1185]

Is Pritti squishing her heels into a basket of kittens?

[@self.construction.day1]

Only on week days...so yes.

[@djslybacon]

Looks like she is. Her face reminds me of the wicked witch or the child catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.

[@Lynnpjjbdndji]

Private school claim charity status to dodge Council tax...... Are the school fees Donations ???????

[@uniquerebeljaney3639]

The faces of the two men behind Mr. Toad after he stands up and starts brown nosing Trump is hilarious.

[@drakegritton4402]

Until now I thought it was “love podcasts, hate nonsense” it all makes sense now 😂

[@AG-bq2zd]

Really good pod. The best lineup :)

[@michaelforrest4995]

As i understand it the Radio 4 caller / Business comment on the NI increase is factual, Companies with a national insurance bill of less than £100,000 a year can be exempt from paying the first £5,000 of employers' national insurance contributions under a programme called the employment allowance, therefore if your overall NI bill is more than £100k which is quite feasible for a pub you will be liable for the full increase in NI as well as the minimum wage increase. Admittedly the scheme is potentially cost neutral at best for those smaller businesses with an NI bill less than £100k.

[@dh1380]

Hahaha Farage got rinsed

[@robertgoodinson6907]

Why is a boss who is making record profits paying anyone minimum wage is the point I would have made.

[@NeonVisual]

She's enough to make you hate all Tories.

[@jovianr9498]

Starmer and Badenoch should both stand down. They are both embarrassing.

[@MalignMusings]

@12:32 well I am a tax expert. They're reducing the secondary threshold from 9100 to 5000. So previously, no ERs NICs would be paid on this, combined with the increases to min wage, now tax is paid on a junior employee doing c. 10 hours a week, whereas previously it was about 20 hours a week. So for a pub group, those students that work a couple of shifts at a weekend now pay tax, whereas previously they didn't. FYI, all payroll costs are costs ultimately paid by employees.

[@David-j9h9g]

"From his mind"..WTF!!!!!

[@stephryland8157]

On the 'fagging' thing, Louis Theroux was famously one for Nick Clegg in school 😂

[@franklingoodwin]

You what mate?

[@clario2178]

One Nepo baby and a posh hooray ,how super .

[@MarkWhiley]

Let's remember that the voters she is after do not watch PMQs. Is what she says in the right wing press and local Facebook groups?

[@zappybazinga8124]

@@MarkWhiley Facebook groups are full of reform stuff nowadays.

[@jenniferwilson726]

I had a very good friend who was sent to as a border to private prep school. As an adult he told me he couldn't understand what he was being punished for.

[@stevenhoward3358]

Ava, your invite to take tea with the vicar's wife has been revoked. Quite a lucky escape really as we can never be certain what "take tea" might be a euphemism for.

[@BusstterNutt]

She's is a great asset to the Tory`s

[@benw-king3380]

'Badenoch will have to dial it down.' That's her problem. She may well be very bright, but she has 'foot in mouth disease.' Another Tory MP with this ailment is Priti Patel - she's like an unflushable turd, just won't go away - and that's not especially good news for any of us, as there needs to be reasonably strong opposition to such a large Labour majority in the Commons.

[@jenniferwilson726]

One of the best shows. Thank you.

[@UnwittingSweater]

Message to all politicians. Learn when to take a beat. People are laughing . Wait.

[@tomfreeman8235]

I really like the backdrop to the podcast now. Keep it like this!

[@RichardFraser-y9t]

Kimi Bad enough at her job.

[@j-wizzy]

Almost there I reckon

[@DavidManser]

I quite like Kemi Bad Enoch

[@dasmaurerle4347]

Imagine having a serious conversation with a mate about the problems of the fishing- industry in Wales and some Karen interrupts the whole thing by saying 'You know what you two are missing? You don't? Well, I'm gonna tell you: Whales aren't fish, actually. They're mammals. Now get back to your silly conversation...' 'Oh wow, thanks for clearing that up, Kemi' would most probably be the appropriate response 🤷🤦

[@catherinemartin6258]

Kemi hates everyone’ she’s not very good snd she wont last long 😂

[@Relisysification]

The way they talk about Oli reminds me of the fact that Kelsey Grammer (due to personal circumstances) had less episode appearances in Frasier than David Pierce

[@giansideros]

11:21 medical cannabis is ALREADY legal and as with all prescription medications, it is ZERO rated for VAT. It's recreational cannabis that needs legalising and taxing. Not that I'm a fan of regressive (indirect) consumption taxes like VAT which ought to be abolished and instead compensated for by direct taxation IE income, capital gains, inheritance and corporation taxes.

[@HarryHughes-nb3fo]

Yiur point on NI is completely incorrect Ava. Employers do pay NI for employees on minimum wage, in fact because of the lowering of the threshold it is the lowest earners which will have the largest % increase

[@GoldnDusty]

So, we're all agreed the former PM Ava's talking about is Theresa May, right?

[@StefanosSoderstrom]

Ava is right about contacting a council after 12 on a Friday. There is never anyone there!

[@bilbobaggins5752]

I saw that 60s film "if...." And the boarding school I'm that the older boys, the head boys, had young boy servants which was referred to as ,'scumming'.

[@digitalnduja8503]

Why is it ‘woke gone mad’ if it improves productivity?

[@mynewcolour]

He was paraphrasing

[@craig3533]

Actually, that pub chain would be impacted, to the tune of roughly £600 a year. They'd need to employ 8333 minimum wage employees for the NIC increase to wipe out that 5m profit, incidentally, which I doubt they do, and as such it's mostly "we make less profir", not "we're going out of business".

[@selfpityingslogan]

i'm now imagining s'Keir going left to own Kemi. Keir & Kemi !

[@Gggwwwppp]

Normalising one sex telling the other what to do and whom they may talk to…..but it’s ok because it’s a good friend of yours 🤷‍♂️

[@Dnky27]

You should get Richard Beard to talk about his book Sad Little Men to get the lowdown on private school. Fitting considering Smyth and Welby being products of private school.

[@gucciiceprada]

has starmer ever actually answered a question at PMQs? seems like he just reads at random one of his talking points that he's got on his crib sheet.

[@declanmcguire1735]

What have i missed? Ava seemed really pointed at another podcast at the beginning?

[@j-wizzy]

Trip

[@declanmcguire1735]

@@j-wizzy Did they defend the archbishop?

[@nbrown_]

@@declanmcguire1735 Stewart expressed his sadness for the Archbishop and then 24 hours later commented that the crimes and handling of John Smyth were heinous.

[@Quasime42]

He didn't answer the question Badenoch asked about the four day week. Just dismissed it as fantasy didnt say the hours are the same. His dismissiveness is playing to her camp. Also laughing at her, is what Harris did at Trump. It has limited value if those watching believe the questions are good ones.

[@franklingoodwin]

Good job most don't think she's asking good questions then

[@Quasime42]

​@@franklingoodwin I'd like to think your right, but outside this KZbin algorithm, I'm not so sure. The press and several other main stream channels seem to have more than half an ear open to her. She's the Sarah Palin, to the trumpian saviour of the corporate right. A warmup act for what's to come.

[@UnwittingSweater]

"The joke stands" 😂

[@joshuawright8441]

I thought NI contributions kicked in at £5k now for companies? Why would an 18 year old not earn £5k I know they’ve raised the threshold for companies don’t have to pay the first £15k but presumably a successful brewery is already over that limit - I could have missed something and if so please let me know

[@alex31721able]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Lovely Jumper

[@SarahTheNearlyInSP]

3:22 ugh, she's so smug for no good reason, she thinks she's better than she actually is! What a silly 'leader'.... 😂😂😂😂

[@colincampbell4261]

One year Public Service/Civic Duties for all non working/non student /non parent young people. Minimum wage plus first year of college fees paid.

[@martycleveland]

Thank you Eva for finally clearing my "Is it nonces or nonsense " confusion =)

[@zxG777]

"Everyone more experience back home"

[@SusanTemienor-c5r]

It looks like the nasty smug grin has been removed from kier starmer. I can now see a very defensive and angry man. Kemi has certainly wiped the floor with him through her gentle ladylike attack blows.

[@gamingwithangel582]

The Power has gone to his head

[@CAM3RoN11]

Love Podcasts, Hate Nonces. (Apart from the nonces who arrived in small boats, those ones are ok)

[@Alan-Jones-Creator-Diary]

😂 excellent trolling …

[@Quasime42]

Are the blades being built in hull being built in a freeport? Is it part EDF owned?

[@fabienmerteuil6226]

I’m confused was Ava on assignment or on holidays in the U.S. Does Ava want to share any of her footage during supposedly the “most consequential” election of our lifetimes?

[@TheRyanSmee]

This episode was a lot of fun!

[@samuelmoore668]

I assume it's Theresa May that Ava is chummy with? Purely because she kept saying "they" to remain vague while factually correct, when "he" would've been vague enough for every prime minister except May since 1990.

[@franklingoodwin]

Or "they" covers both men and women and saying "he" let's everyone know it's not Theresa May. That's not how the process of deduction works.

[@samuelmoore668]

@@franklingoodwin I know but it's worth a gamble

[@franklingoodwin]

@@samuelmoore668 Fair enough. I don't think it is Theresa May. I think Ava uses "they" to throw people off the scent. It's a red herring IMO. If I had to guess I reckon she's talking about David Cameron.

[@simonmitchell9910]

Well bout time Sunak was made to repay the taxpayers money he gave to his family and was wasted due to unusable ppe.

[@alexanderprice6612]

Woke Kier removing trans rights. Pull the other one and take your blinkers off. Your bias blindness is showing.

[@djslybacon]

Priti Patel looks evil sitting there next to Kemi.

[@ThatsDisruptive]

Love you guys but the opening 2 minutes of this pod needs cutting

[@Stuboy]

Need to rejoin EU get less Murica

[@katejackson7432]

go ava , blast that word salad bs

[@Sephysogaku]

Oh, beef!

[@shakespeare5215]

Good news for Ed, medical cannabis is already legal

[@jakeratcliff9926]

I work for a Council. I don't clock off at 12 on a Friday. I usually work until 7 Ava!

[@dw-yl3ln]

Yeah, but do you man the phone though.

[@hatherlow]

Many play the flexitime game, 20 mins for lunch, leave at 4.30, and still have 42 days holiday a year (hols plus 12 days flexi). I ve worked in local gov ive seen it.

[@jakeratcliff9926]

@@dw-yl3ln no but others do

[@jakeratcliff9926]

@@hatherlow we have to take half an hour for lunch. Yes we have flexi time and get in our hours. Your problem?

[@jeromeprice9952]

low earners will have a higher NI bill proportional to income for employers. Small business will be exempt for the increase.

[@katejackson7432]

hoyle being 1 sided again

[@ericaceous1652]

25:00 I caught Ava snickering at Mr Hands, not sure Ed did

[@nick78447]

GK Barry will win the thing. She has cross generational appeal (withing the target audience of IAC).

[@MrStanBowles]

It would make my life easier - ziiiing - straight past eds ears, so back baby.

[@colincampbell4261]

Where's Ollie?

[@billramsay7351]

I've worked a "condensed working week" which is what we called doing 5 days work in 4. It did not prove very popular, people grew weary of it very quickly and almost all went back to working 5 days

[@aananhenderson2689]

ava going on politics live and crushing bobby j is the main reason he didnt become leader, ill hear no opposing arguments on the subject

[@nullnull7495]

Why am i subscribed to you exactly?

[@SettlementAgreementSolicitor]

At first I thought the nonce comment was directed at Trump, as he is a nonce. Too many nonces to keep up with at the moment.

[@zoranblackie5921]

And he's just appointed one as the Attorney General... poacher becomes gamekeeper, or child groomer becomes top lawyer

[@robertjdocherty4986]

I strongly dislike starmer. He lies with impunity and is only prime minster by calculated miss leading of the labour party and the UK public. We need laws that make it a crime for MPs or those running for election to knowingly miss lead the public, the press or parliament.

[@theswiv]

Nicely done

[@benadams6019]

Day 73 of asking for a production team microphone.

[@dianamincher6479]

Too much persona; chat =not enough substance?

[@SkyrimHound1]

Is Oli never going to appear again now he's being promoted/demoted to your boss's boss/other areas?

[@Hardspace1979]

it's already obvious that Badenoch is useless.... Jenrick must be fuming.

[@katejackson7432]

every1 else has means tested benifits and there are many who its been removed from for years. its not good but i think those who need it n miss out on uc do have other funding options, if they are elderly and ill wich is most elderly the people complaining are like my aunt who's always got and is loaded

[@upsidedownnoise]

23:19 what people are you speaking to in regard to Starmer? In my experience, people on the left and, on the right, view Starmer as a liar and as an oath breaker. Admittedly, my circles are probably more working class which, could be the difference.

[@nathanaelsmith3553]

0:41 - Huw Edwards? When scandal initially broke?

[@gike2755]

Archbishop of Canterbury recently resigned due to stuff he might have known and covered up in 2013

[@nathanaelsmith3553]

@gike2755 I know - my point is that PJ were very defensive over Mr Edwards so their claims ring a bit hollow. As a media outlet they seem to me to have been primarily concerned with rallying around and cozying up to the BBC with little concern for abuse victims. They also do not seem to have further covered the Edwards story since it has evolved either.

[@gike2755]

@@nathanaelsmith3553 gotchya

[@dogwithsandels]

I think (if I remember rightly) the scandal was originally that he paid an adult for sexual content, rather than anything more devious. I believe after the extra stuff came out they were quite hardline on it. Might be wrong!

[@nathanaelsmith3553]

@dogwithsandels My recollection is that people initially suggesting that Edwards was a wrong 'un were dismissed as homophobic busy bodies by PJ. I suspect that that is because admitting the obvious plausibility of those concerns conflicted with business/career interests. This is a textbook example of how institutional culture enables predators like Saville / Edwards / Brand to evade accountability.

[@jamiemcmullen3647]

am i the only one who is getting nauseous from the same phrase were fixing the foundations for the economy

[@RichardFraser-y9t]

It's quite true but sure, you do you my lovely person.

[@jamiemcmullen3647]

@RichardFraser-y9t 😂😂

[@mrdaveythebaby]

It's not beyond the pale to point out to the arsonist that you're rebuilding the house when they're moaning about the cost of it...

[@upsidedownnoise]

Whispering behind your hand is very rude.

[@boiledelephant]

A profound political insight worthy of YT comments

[@zenbaby3396]

I am sorry I saw the interview with Piers Morgan about trans rights and I find it impossible to belief a word this girl says. She was talking about children who are being castrated or mutilated ether physically or by drugs as some figments of the rights imagination.!! A think she is ether wholly deluded or actively lying. As to question time I think Kemi is getting better on her points and will get better at presenting them, don’t forget she was answering post office questions this week which would have taken a lot of prep. Also I remember all of the great performance by opposition since Blair and all of them took more than two session to get into their stride.

[@zappybazinga8124]

She is absolutely useless. ‘He needs to answer from his mind’. It’s literally a bang average politician up against a 6th former. Starmer should not ever run rings around you at PMQs - but he’s just done so twice.

[@zenbaby3396]

@ sorry he hardly rung rings around her. He is still falling over every question but she does need to polish her act up. She has authenticity while he always seem like he is lying even on the rare occasions he is telling the truth. She can grow he will only get worse. Let’s see, talk in a month

[@zappybazinga8124]

@@zenbaby3396 I don’t know what you were watching but she’s been battered twice and seems like some archetypal young Tory who doesn’t have much of a clue. She’s no Cameron that’s for sure. Frankly I wouldn’t be surprised if she was turfed out well before the next election.

[@KenFlanagan]

Is it just me but does this seem unbelievably juvenile. Like a dull conversation in the student union bar between lectures. Podcasts??

[@PoliticsJOE]

That’s exactly the vibe we’re going for Ken thanks for watching

[@mz8061]

This is the most British version of the American podcast Trueanon for 5 years they have been openly the only anti pedophile podcast in the land

[@SaintWill70]

Hahaaaaaaaaaa 🇺🇸🏈🍔🧢🔫✊🎉🎉🎉🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸😃