POLYESTER VS CO POLY TENNIS STRING : WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE

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@slerk9
@slerk9 3 жыл бұрын
7:17 is where the difference is explained, just to save you all 12 minutes 😂
@jonathanchen1026
@jonathanchen1026 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@christoscholevas
@christoscholevas 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@Lego-tennis
@Lego-tennis 3 жыл бұрын
Lol thanks
@nicolasvillavicencio1835
@nicolasvillavicencio1835 3 жыл бұрын
@Chad Blaine Nice Ad, its not like i've seen this 52 times today with one guy talking about it at first with a week old account and a person saying that its working also with a week old account with copy pasted answers.
@mirstation
@mirstation 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not intelligent enough to understand this at all
@KreationPhotography
@KreationPhotography 3 жыл бұрын
Something is wrong, solinco confidential is known by its playability duration whereas luxilon alu power is known to be crisp for the fist 2-4h and then go horrible loose.
@jerome_morrow
@jerome_morrow 3 жыл бұрын
Your doctor does not know Luxilon. Luxilon does not manufacture surgical sutures. They are a polyester yarn manufacturer that supplies wholesale to medical device companies that make the sutures, meshes etc. that are used by doctors.
@Le-Chuck
@Le-Chuck 3 жыл бұрын
Weird, pretty everyone that tested both knows that hyper g holds tension longer than alu power...
@fingersm
@fingersm 3 жыл бұрын
??? Not
@75endi
@75endi 3 жыл бұрын
Tennis Warehouse University has a string comparison page (twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/comparestrings.php ) according to which the Hyper G definitely holds tension longer than the LXN Alu Power
@svanwest
@svanwest 3 жыл бұрын
@@75endi the link is broken
@75endi
@75endi 3 жыл бұрын
@@svanwest Sorry, it should work now
@babbo507
@babbo507 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe during a heavy hitting session but once hyper g loses tension it's permanent, alu power somehow feels better the next day.
@DrumWizard16
@DrumWizard16 3 жыл бұрын
Uhhhh, all Co-poly and poly strings are monofilaments, except a few. A true 1st generation poly string would be something like Kirschbaum P2 or Tourna Premium poly methinks.
@philipphortnagl2486
@philipphortnagl2486 3 жыл бұрын
what you recommend in coldy/wet weather for strings? co-poly, mutli ...? and what about string tension, lower than usually?
@pablotur6487
@pablotur6487 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, by the way, Polys are great but will ruin your elbow and/or shoulder...definitely recommend a hybrid, if you're not an advanced player.
@squib311
@squib311 23 күн бұрын
I played polyester strings in the 70s called Blue Star in my Davis Imperial racquets. They felt a lot like VS gut but more durable and cheaper.
@danilastefan1298
@danilastefan1298 3 жыл бұрын
hI I want to know wich string and tension is better for my daughter ...9 years old.. she play 6 day for 2 hour a day: Luxilon Smart ,Luxilon element Hyper G soft ...or Confidential ..I want to buy a raquet: Wilson blade 26 jr v7 vs wilson pro staff 26 jr v13 wich raquet i buy?.thx you.. best regards sorry for my english
@guyprovost
@guyprovost 2 ай бұрын
Strange because I strung a mono poly (orange super smash 123) and a co-poly right after it and the orange super smash was way softier than the co-poly.
@misscorinneyo
@misscorinneyo 4 ай бұрын
What would you say about Still in Black string? It's a monofilament copolyester string, sounds like good for elbow
@anthonymicha7079
@anthonymicha7079 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! Would it be ok to mix Tour Bite with Hyper-G? And how would you do it? Which in the mains and which in the cross?
@bwiz6514
@bwiz6514 2 жыл бұрын
It's just not accurate to say the stiffer polys last longer and have less tension loss than copolys. There are numerous examples of soft co-poly's having less tension loss and longer playability than their firmer cousins. As an example, the tension loss of the ALU Power you showed is 47% compared to 26% for the Hyper G. So I think your assertion needs to be reexamined.
@PulseTrip
@PulseTrip 3 күн бұрын
I think Velocity MLT is a multi poly? or am i wrong
@StephanieHughesDesign
@StephanieHughesDesign 3 жыл бұрын
As a lifetime tennis player who still plays amateur competitive, ex college, ITF and Pro Penn Tour player I just love your videos. Super. I play with Solinco Hyper G 16L gauge on my 4 Babalot Aero racquets and love them. Consistent quality and nice spin. I believe Solinco offers Hyper G in soft version now too.
@damirdamir1180
@damirdamir1180 3 жыл бұрын
Can you test MSV strings?
@JenkinsB
@JenkinsB 3 жыл бұрын
Confidential or Hyper G for beginner (15 year old female, athletic)? Thanks.
@treplay8846
@treplay8846 Жыл бұрын
luxilon patent..its actually multiple poly strand construction
@a2casius
@a2casius 3 жыл бұрын
Tecnifibre Triax (which you reviewed a few weeks ago!) is a multifilament co-poly !!!
@Fred_P
@Fred_P 3 жыл бұрын
Together with polyamide (nylon) filaments 50/50, not 100 % co-poly.
@a2casius
@a2casius 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fred_P Close enough
@Fred_P
@Fred_P 3 жыл бұрын
@@a2casius Sure : )
@alextennis24
@alextennis24 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice explanation man. This is some good stuff. Personnally i'm not crazy about luxilion, they say you are suppose to string lower than usual, but when i do, i have no control at all, way to loose.
@alexkrummenacher5050
@alexkrummenacher5050 Жыл бұрын
He's talking to us like we are idiots.
@cybernetennis
@cybernetennis 3 жыл бұрын
Great episode; this is why we come here daily :)
@elitetennis4811
@elitetennis4811 3 жыл бұрын
Your video's are simply AWESOME!!!!So informative and a pleasure to watch and learn...Thank you!
@petergehrman7494
@petergehrman7494 3 жыл бұрын
Yonex multi sensor is a multi poly I think.
@mteca5093
@mteca5093 3 жыл бұрын
So is multifeel , nxt control maybe, triax,hdmx.. there is a bunch
@ALC-bd1pm
@ALC-bd1pm 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, Learning Something New Everyday. 💡💡💡
@videonaveia
@videonaveia 3 жыл бұрын
Always a great video !
@tomwharton9800
@tomwharton9800 3 жыл бұрын
I am confused - all the Luxilon strings, even big banger original, are described as co-poly strings on tennis warehouse.. It's seems perhaps that only strings from several years ago were polyester and pretty much all poly strings nowadays have additives added to them.
@lsee19
@lsee19 3 жыл бұрын
I actually think he's incorrect in stating that Luxilon is just a polyester string. I am pretty sure it is a co-poly. Hyper-G is just a another co-poly with probably different formulation
@Fred_P
@Fred_P 3 жыл бұрын
Just go to luxilon's website. It's Poly-Ether-Ether, not polyester. Harry just repeats hearsay, he never does any research or preparation. He does provide some good real life insights sometimes though.
@erichaynes7502
@erichaynes7502 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a weird case, I'm older I don't have a lot of power so rely on lots of control to move the opponent around/force his mistakes. I string Kirsch Max Power (Co-Poly)on my Volkl V1 and it seems to play really well for 100+ hours what the heck is going on?
@shanespruiell93
@shanespruiell93 Жыл бұрын
I wish I could automatically set all tennis spin videos to 1.5x playback speed lol
@mchan87bns
@mchan87bns 2 жыл бұрын
Check out Yonex Multi-sensa125 , poly Multifilament
@youngsuit
@youngsuit 2 жыл бұрын
ive never heard about luxilon making medical equipment - anyone got a source?
@cliveburks
@cliveburks 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting background and story from the beginning worth watching IMO thanks
@richardmills5360
@richardmills5360 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos Harry, I watch them before buying balls, racquets, strings and shoes etc. Please open a branch in the UK 😉🇬🇧
@direwolf525
@direwolf525 2 жыл бұрын
I dont' get it the luxilon big banger is also co polyester monofilament
@Invesre
@Invesre 3 жыл бұрын
Any1 tried weedwacker or fisher string on a racqet? ;D
@vectorthurm
@vectorthurm 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe that’s what the first Poly was😆
@Invesre
@Invesre 3 жыл бұрын
@@vectorthurm iv just read an old post and someone did that.
@fingersm
@fingersm 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@bowsershark
@bowsershark 3 жыл бұрын
Weedwacker is to brittle for tennis 😊. Fishing string is not elastic enough for tennis. Yet, there were some metal based strings back in the day. But, they quickly ate through the crosses like poop thru a goose.
@shpingalet7895
@shpingalet7895 3 жыл бұрын
Super-helpful video for understanding! Thanks a lot!
@VishnuRajam4x4
@VishnuRajam4x4 Жыл бұрын
The question I wanted answered!!!
@donquixote...
@donquixote... 3 жыл бұрын
Thought the Confidential was 4 sided, not 6... That was the info I saw anyway.
@stephan552
@stephan552 3 жыл бұрын
What did you do to your 4 right hand fingers wrapped in bandaids ? And oh thanks for the videos...all of them ! Cheers
@tennisthroughtrailanderror
@tennisthroughtrailanderror 3 жыл бұрын
Sir with all due respect I'll like to point out that your wrong. Actually co-poly maintain tension better than poly, infact with poly you'll have to restrung more frequently. Humble request to first get your facts straight before posting an video. I'm one of your subscriber, love the topics of your videos. Again didn't mean to hurt your feelings, like to apologise for being so blunt
@skandelous
@skandelous 3 жыл бұрын
I also just strung my racket with the solinco confidential. What tension do you like that string at ?
@dalelewis1849
@dalelewis1849 2 жыл бұрын
How often would you have to change your strings with a co-ploy assuming strings don't break. I'm thinking you probably have a drastic tension change after about six months. Thx in advance.
@whatsgoodmyguy4391
@whatsgoodmyguy4391 Жыл бұрын
Depends how much you play. For me about every 2 months..
@OfficialZeroN
@OfficialZeroN 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Europe and over here confidential is not available. I'd love to try it tho. Do they sell the string under a different brand over here or is it just not available in Europe for whatever reason?
@CoDINmyHEART
@CoDINmyHEART 3 жыл бұрын
Tennis warehouse europe man, damn...
@emadny75
@emadny75 2 жыл бұрын
Great review mr and very informative 💐
@philipng476
@philipng476 2 жыл бұрын
I still like multifilament better, it is way better in term of playability and comfort. I do my own stringing, so I don't need super durability.
@homosapien5156
@homosapien5156 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't tecnifibre triax a multi poly ?
@eloneatmyshorts
@eloneatmyshorts 3 жыл бұрын
No not in the way you’re thinking. Harry’s definition of a “multi-poly” is taking hundreds/thousands of poly strands and wrapping itself together like a multifilament string. What you’re thinking is a multi and poly combo hybrid build like the Triax. Which IMO is phenomenal in its achievement of having gut like feel with positive qualities of a poly (snap back, durable, high slick coefficient).
@vectorthurm
@vectorthurm 3 жыл бұрын
I broke strings for Triax after 3-4 hours so not durable enough for me...felt good but not any different than any other multi-filament....not worth the price IMO.
@K4R3N
@K4R3N 3 жыл бұрын
I'm using Triax 17 g right now, feels good. Got about 10-12 hours of hitting so far on it, definitely fraying but hasnt snapped yet and still feels good.
@dhartarz4109
@dhartarz4109 3 жыл бұрын
What kinda strings are arm Friendly? Recently I uses the Wilson Clash 100L racquet and use the Babolat RPM BLAST Spin Control 120/18, in it.
@erichaynes7502
@erichaynes7502 3 жыл бұрын
Synthetic Gut or Natural Gut are really the only arm friendly strings. Polyesters are very stiff, not arm friendly so it can easily cause tennis elbow and other arm problems. However, I have a racket designed to prevent tennis elbow(Volkl V1 Classic) it has 2 dampeners inside the grip to prevent all the shock going to the arm/elbow. Because I have this racket I can play with polyester string without having arm problems. If I didn't have this racket I'd have to use only Synthetic or Natural Gut. I play about 15-20 hours a week if you play a lot less you might not have to worry about all this.
@dhartarz4109
@dhartarz4109 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply. Actually, I put Solinco Confodential 120/17g right now on my Wilson Clash 100L. It feels comfortable to my arm.
@Thicc_Thanos964
@Thicc_Thanos964 3 жыл бұрын
Opinions on Luxilon Element? I’m trying to switch to another co poly with good feel, control, spin and tension maintenance :)
@Abe-Lau
@Abe-Lau 3 жыл бұрын
I think I am in the minority here but I personally really love RPM power because it gives me good feel, good spin, and control. Durability is probably the weak point. I broke it after 4 hours in summer 90• weather. I personally just like it but many people don’t. Hope this help? Ask me if you have questions! Cheers😎
@Thicc_Thanos964
@Thicc_Thanos964 3 жыл бұрын
@@Abe-Lau this helped, highly appreciated, the current string I use right now is the pro line evolution, it’s good except that it went dead fast and lacked a bit of a crisp response that I wanted. Thx again I need to try it out!
@Abe-Lau
@Abe-Lau 3 жыл бұрын
@@Thicc_Thanos964 Hopefully it works out well! I don’t want you to choose a bad string. Just beware it is kinda of expensive and stringing it will be a pain. You will have to move the strings back to the center like older strings. Tell me how it goes! Cheers😎
@b-radmybro3299
@b-radmybro3299 3 жыл бұрын
@@Thicc_Thanos964 you should definitely try solinco tour bite: crisp feel, great control and spin, and the tension maintenance is incredible especially if you use the 16 or even thicker gauges
@homosapien5156
@homosapien5156 3 жыл бұрын
@@Thicc_Thanos964 I also use the pro line evolution. Love it
@villiam7941
@villiam7941 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation. Very helpful to me!
@59BigWalt
@59BigWalt 3 жыл бұрын
A LOT OF KEVLAR/GUT COMBOS THEN?
@princessoftennis5539
@princessoftennis5539 3 жыл бұрын
wow!! great!!
@medicoveterinario3641
@medicoveterinario3641 3 жыл бұрын
Harry, love your videos, pace talking talking and the issues you come with. Why polyesters got better in the market than kevlar?... Agassi strung kevlar, as in example... what do you think about kevlar?
@TheDareMaximus
@TheDareMaximus 3 жыл бұрын
It's just the performance Kevlar is material that is very very strong, (it is used in military for armor suits so they stops bullet from penetration) With kevlar, your strings are durable as hell, they will last very long, but big thing about them is their low performance they give Poly gives much more power, spin, and such things to the ball, as it "grabs" that ball pretty well, while kevlar strings won't "grab" that ball, causing less power, spin and such..
@medicoveterinario3641
@medicoveterinario3641 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheDareMaximus aha... I use kevlar. A lot, Y find that it is very but I mean very good string when strung at low tension (40 lbs or even less) with good match of crosses, as multi or soft poly or copoly, their pretty thin ( 1,10-1,20) therefore the spin is very affordable, as so the slice. I do agree with you that when strung al 50, as in example, it is a iron wall you are hitting with
@medicoveterinario3641
@medicoveterinario3641 3 жыл бұрын
it's not a string for beginners, I understand that. It's for intermediate to advanced levels
@ЕгорПитеров-б6ч
@ЕгорПитеров-б6ч 3 жыл бұрын
great description
@K4R3N
@K4R3N 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@jamesotto7884
@jamesotto7884 3 жыл бұрын
Explained well, cheers 🍻
@rudolferasmus7495
@rudolferasmus7495 3 жыл бұрын
Could you pls review the dunlop xlt-15 tennis racket. I have one and would want to know if it could hold up in modern day tennis. And if i can continue using it
@amorco
@amorco 3 жыл бұрын
Luxilon only lasts as its tension when first played, never more than a few days or a week, but the playability is extremely better than any other co-poly strings in the market, that is why they are still the #1 string maker/seller in the world. Companies like Solinco makes strings that will lasts tension longer due to the co-polymer technology, but does not play as well as the Luxilon strings. Maybe you can figure out why Luxilon is still the best when it is the first generation string - ALU used first by Guga Kuerten in 1997. By the way the company PolyStar came in the tennis market before Luxilon in the early 80s(1981) with their first original polyester tennis strings (Classic)used by a few pros in Europe, mainly swiss players. But PolyStar did not make it in the American market in the 80s because those strings were terrible and expensive.
@SanjitMandal
@SanjitMandal 3 жыл бұрын
After cracking volley after volley on Monday seems my arm for a good workout (maybe tennis elbow or just a good forearm workout)...could be my ALU Power strings, not I'm looking at Hyper G, Confidential, and maybe some others? Suggestions?
@amorco
@amorco 3 жыл бұрын
@@SanjitMandal Actually Luxilon are softer than Hyper G, but never tried Confidential. Definitely try other polys other than Luxilon, there are so many. Try blending with multifilaments crosses or even gut, to relieve that pain.
@SanjitMandal
@SanjitMandal 3 жыл бұрын
@@amorco You are right, just checked out the numbers, but it seems softer? odd...have you tried Kirschbaum Pro Line Evolution? Half the cost of ALU Power. Seeking some lower price point strings than ALU Power.
@amorco
@amorco 3 жыл бұрын
@@SanjitMandal I've tried Pro Line but its not even close to ALU. The closest feel and longer tension stability would be the Head Lynx Tour. Great string that feels like ALU or better and on sale at TW: www.tennis-warehouse.com/Head_Lynx_Tour_17_String/descpageACHEAD-LTR17.html
@SanjitMandal
@SanjitMandal 3 жыл бұрын
@@amorco Awesome, I will check it out as well as razor code and ice code.
@naserharbi
@naserharbi 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the Solinco Confidential. I used it yesterday and it was amazing feel. I used the 18g @52lbs for mains with Dunlop SGut 18g @50lbs for crosses (tennis elbow) on Wilson ProStaff 97L with added 5g weight at the grip. I tried the Tour bite 20g but it wasn't that good. I had to hit and miss 3 times until I get to my shot. With Confidential, from the first hit. Now I have 3 main strings to choose from: HyperG 20g, Confidential 18g and Völkl V-square 19g. I hope they would release the Confidential in 19g or even 20g.
@Fred_P
@Fred_P 3 жыл бұрын
Both Hyper-G and Confidential are 5 sided, why would you say they are square and 6 sided when they're the same (not different) and have 5 sides? I guess on average you're right 😂
@CoDINmyHEART
@CoDINmyHEART 3 жыл бұрын
They are actually 4 sided both of them. i would recommend to know your shit before correcting someone else. Even though i agree he makes a lot of facts mistakes regularly.
@Fred_P
@Fred_P 3 жыл бұрын
@@CoDINmyHEART Here's a picture of the cross section of Tour Bite. i.imgur.com/J0E9csM.png Hyper-G and Confidential have the same cross section, just look for yourself. I would recommend to know your shit before correcting someone else.
@mattblvr1
@mattblvr1 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t know what that picture is.......they are both square, same as tour bite.
@Fred_P
@Fred_P 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattblvr1 I've already said what the picture is. Here's the source. tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/what-is-the-correlation-of-the-number-of-edges-in-a-shaped-poly-have-to-do-with-spin-potential.646211/post-13572319 If you want to claim otherwise, please follow the steps provided and show the square cross section. If you do, post it there as well as the guy will buy you a reel and send it to you. Until you do, you have nothing to bring to the conversation.
@TyRaff
@TyRaff 3 жыл бұрын
What is the highest tension you have ever had a pro ask their strings to be tensions at?
@fingersm
@fingersm 3 жыл бұрын
Some guy play Alu power at 80pds
@msalvs
@msalvs 3 жыл бұрын
Is it Dustin Brown?
@fingersm
@fingersm 3 жыл бұрын
@@msalvs yup As well as some very good rec players. Im going to try it on my clash 98 next
@overdrive_tennis
@overdrive_tennis 3 жыл бұрын
When you mention copoly doesnt hold tension, you mean it loses stringing tension or snapback? Could you make a video about snapback?
@tonioelpirato1387
@tonioelpirato1387 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Great to learn some historical stuff too! Love your videos!!
@mariobikic184
@mariobikic184 3 жыл бұрын
Hi please answer me i will be realy happy becouse of your opinion,i have bought a Rf97L version and changed the sytetic grip with leather babolat grip and now its 300g unstrung i am advanced/intermiadiate player i have trained tennis couple of years and my question is how to make my raquet similar to wilson blade with weight not to be to much head heavy like 305gunstrung where sgould i put lead tape on the raquet is it 3 and 9 and how much. Thanks for the answer i have been wathing all of your videos you are great 😀
@slerk9
@slerk9 3 жыл бұрын
6:07 120mm = 4.7 inches so that’s not correct.
@Fred_P
@Fred_P 3 жыл бұрын
He meant 1.20 mm, but misspoke.
@victorou1183
@victorou1183 3 жыл бұрын
A
@mariobikic184
@mariobikic184 3 жыл бұрын
Hi please answer me i will be realy happy becouse of your opinion,i have bought a Rf97L version and changed the sytetic grip with leather babolat grip and now its 300g unstrung i am advanced/intermiadiate player i have trained tennis couple of years and my question is how to make my raquet similar to wilson blade with weight not to be to much head heavy like 305gunstrung where sgould i put lead tape on the raquet is it 3 and 9 and how much. Thanks for the answer i have been wathing all of your videos you are great 😀
@mariobikic184
@mariobikic184 3 жыл бұрын
Hi please answer me i will be realy happy becouse of your opinion,i have bought a Rf97L version and changed the sytetic grip with leather babolat grip and now its 300g unstrung i am advanced/intermiadiate player i have trained tennis couple of years and my question is how to make my raquet similar to wilson blade with weight not to be to much head heavy like 305gunstrung where sgould i put lead tape on the raquet is it 3 and 9 and how much. Thanks for the answer i have been wathing all of your videos you are great 😀
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