Porsche 718 Cayman GTS 4.0 - The Final Petrol Powered Cayman

[@driven.videos]

The last ever petrol-powered Cayman... 🥲 how does that make you feel? Thanks so much for being here and taking the time to watch our latest video. Read John's written article on the Driven website here: driven.site/words/porsche-718-cayman-gts-40

[@viliusr.8792]

Electric should be super affordable... battery and 4 electric engines AWD. I do not see why it should be expensive. For me electric with 100km real range would be fine, but 40k euro price, no more...

[@a64738]

🤬😡👿 GO WOKE ! GO BROKE !

[@skippynj1979]

Mine is coming in May.. glad I got an allocation..

[@JohnMarcar]

Amazing, congratulations. You’re in for a real treat!

[@driven.videos]

That's awesome. What colour did you go for?

[@skippynj1979]

@@driven.videosclassic guards red outside.. leather/leather with guards red deviated stitching/dials/belts. Leather heated steering wheel. That's it... I don't like the GTS interior with the sporttex.. I like the real leather..

[@dp2901]

Just got mine. See you out there!

[@skippynj1979]

@@dp2901 how is it? I'm debating trading my c8 in for it or keeping both for now.

[@danielpfister6774]

Great video 🤓!!! Last year in February 2023, I acquired my new 718 Cayman GTS 4.0 which has the 4L NA flat six cylinder engine (same unit as a GT4) and a PDK gearbox. Power output (394 bhp) and torque (317 lb-ft) are a nice match to this car's sensible curb weight (~3200 lbs). The color is Gentian Blue metallic with a black/chalk all-leather interior and silver wheel rims. It's definitely an entertaining driver's car! So far, I've only done 452 miles but hopefully a lot more this coming Summer! The PDK is also a lot of fun (it's definitely quick) 🤓 All the best and thanks again from Colorado! "Porsche...There is No Substitute!!!"

[@phillipberk5767]

Wow! that is the exact same spec bgts I just ordered today, have photos anywhere you could share? can't find a gts with that color combo+ silver wheels!

[@danielpfister6774]

​​​@@phillipberk5767 First, congratulations on the anticipated delivery of your new 2024 718 Boxster GTS 4.0!!! You are very lucky to still acquire a build allocation since 718 production is expected to go EV for 2025. Yes, there are a few photos of my car posted online ... if you do a Google search for "Porsche Littleton reviews" and then click on "more reviews", my review (with pix) should pop up!

[@vvarioPL]

Thanks for making waiting time for my 718 BGTS just a small bit easier - the production process ended yesterday, so hopefully I’ll get hold of it really soon. The 718 is a real delight - just as you said, it’s fun and exciting at basically any speed. I remember when I first drove the 911 on Porsche Experience event while having the 718 already ordered - I was afraid that experiencing the legend will make me feel that I chose the wrong car and make dive deeper into my pocket to change the order and get the 911 instead, but actually it was totally opposite and 911 turned out to be probably the biggest disappointment in my entire life of a car guy. Don’t get me wrong - it’s incredibly capable, if anyone would ask me which one handles better, I would point at 911 every time. But this is actually this car’s biggest problem - it’s just too good, everything is too easy, you feel like the car is doing everything for you, it simply lacks fun and excitement. To have fun in 911 you need to drive the go-to-jail-speeds, fortunately it’s not the case for 718. That event showed me that 718 GTS 4.0 is the exact answer to what I was looking for and 911 simply isn’t.

[@JohnMarcar]

Oh wow, congratulations! I can tell you’re going to love the car. Here’s to many happy years and miles of driving! 😎

[@driven.videos]

Our pleasure entirely, and you're in for a real treat - for sure. Congrats on the purchase!

[@skippynj1979]

That's exactly what I thought.. I almost bought a CPO 992.1 4CS... I drive it thinking I'm taking it home that day and was disappointed. I have a C8 z51 Vette and thought the Vette was better. I got a caymen GTS that just froze the build last week. Should be in my hands and of May. With the money saved I can keep both cars. The 718s are just so much more fun to drive on the streets. The 911 is too Cadillac now for me.

[@sebastianaussenhofer5960]

We got our 718 Boxster GTS last month. It’s a great car. Really nice sound and handling. Nothing to complain about.

[@dp2901]

I just got my CGTS (replaced my 981S). Can confirm it's the real deal and I can't wait to give it the beans after break-in. I do think that Porsche (like most majors like Ford and Toyota) are going to walk back their rush into EV.

[@danieltackett4089]

Nice video! After a 6 month wait, my 2024 CGTS arrived in December and is now broken in. Agreed, it’s an amazing car! After owning over 20 BMWs, this is my first Porsche. I wanted to buy a new manual car before they’re all gone, and planned to order an M2. But I feel very fortunate that I got a GTS 4.0 allocation. I chose a “Ferrari spec” in Carmine Red over Espresso/Cognac leather, since all GT4s and nearly all GTS’s come with black interiors. In the US market, you CAN get the GT sport steering wheel with heating and multifunction controls. Just checked my build sheet to confirm. EVs have their place, but a true sports car deserves this kind of tactility, a stirring sound track and 3 pedals. They’re about to be extinct 🥲

[@JoeAchilles1]

Brilliant video John/Driven 👌 Good Cayman memories always hark back to Fuel faction days with you in the 981 GT4, think that was circa 2017, brilliant times!

[@driven.videos]

Thanks, Joe!

[@JohnMarcar]

Oh mate, that road trip! We both fell in love with a Cayman… and a tiny little bit in love with each other 🥰😂

[@rickfowler3710]

It took me a moment to realise you're in my lovely home town of Malvern. I thought I recognised that carpark

[@driven.videos]

It's a lovely home town, too!

[@johnwilliams727]

Porsche will be punished for removing ICE from this car.

[@donoghu5907]

Same way they were punished for removing air cooled?

[@johnwilliams727]

@@donoghu5907 the difference between air and water cooling is about 1% compared to ICE and electric. First hand here, i own a Porsche and will never buy one of these. It doesnt get anymore real than that.

[@seekinginformationca]

I agree. I’m not sure who the market is for an EV cayman. We’ll see how it all goes.

[@simmouk]

Nice video Driven team! I think I'll just purchase the sporty steering wheel on it's own...without control buttons...or the rest of the car 😂 Might look nice on the coffee table 😊 Amusing to hear John's inner child giggling at the end too, after putting pedal to metal 😇

[@JohnMarcar]

It’s no secret, I am essentially an 8 year old trapped in a thirty-somethings body!

[@driven.videos]

Thanks Simon!

[@stevencoates2703]

There are plenty of dongles that convert the wired CarPlay to wireless. Yes, would be better if built in, but not a big issue to fix

[@MacellaioNero]

Good vid, the GT4 commentary was a bit out of date though, those were never limited models like the GT3/GT4 RS are - though you're right you still can't buy one, but that's because orders closed about 12 months ago and they're discontinued. Unless you meant the GT4 RS, which is a different car completely and nowhere near just £10k more...

[@driven.videos]

Thanks! Yes, you're right, perhaps I could have worded that a little better in the review, it's not as limited, but certainly not the easiest thing to walk into a showroom and buy as a first time Porsche customer. - Thanks for watching! - John

[@jonfrench7133]

Great content and lovely to hear you describe the delicacy of the driving experience. I find this almost completely forgotten as most seem to obsess about 1/4 mile and 0-60. Regarding the turn in when i first experienced it i actually thought but was oversteer and i’d lost the back wheels. It’s that much better than almost anything else, 911 included. Get behind the wheel of most other cars and the turn in feels recalcitrant. Keep the content coming 👍

[@wizzpet6562]

Great review. In Canada the GTS 4.0 comes by default with the 360 mm GT steering wheel in alcantara and you can add the controls as an option without affecting the diameter. There is also an option called « GT sport steering wheel » which only converts the steering wheel in leather (they should have named that option « leather steering wheel » instead because people like myself thought it needed to be clicked to get that GT steering wheel. I find that odd that you can’t have the 360mm with controls on it in the UK. Are you sure about that?

[@driven.videos]

Thanks, Wizzpet! - John here. 😎 I have had a second look to make sure I've not missed something, and yep, unless I'm being an utter chimp (which is also a possibility), the UK configurator gives the option of only the 360mm wheel with no controls, or, the 375mm with. It seems strange that different variants of tech are available in different markets, but then stranger things have happened.

[@trigganometry168]

The car is quite the gem nice review and spot on. I was able to fix the Apple CarPlay issue with an inexpensive little device to go wireless. Configuring here in the states allows for GT steering wheel with controls but I wanted a plain buttonless wheel. I think the GTS best specs are included in the package ie: sports exhaust, pasm, Race Tex seats, sports chrono, PTV, mechanical limited slip on the manual transmission of course, and wheels. Going crazy on the configurator can bring you to GT4 prices. I wish parking sensors were an option here and not standard because now I have holes in my front and rear bumper. 😮

[@VK6AB-]

The Cayman GTS 4L is a wonderful sports car, balance, poise, agility, great engine, great gear box immensely rigid chassis (41,000 Nm/deg) coupled with a grace and elegance few cars have. I have the former model 981 GTS which sounds even better than the 4L, I liked it so much its one of the few cars I have ever kept and I have a great line up of keepers (991.2 GT3 RS, 720S, 600LT (in BC) and most recently added a 296 GTB). I have driven both iterations of the Emira and didn't really warm to it, the weight distribution hurts it as it does older Lotus add to that the mediocre engine, gear box and linkage and well, its just not that great. On track I think it is one of the poorer Lotus where Exige>Evora>Emira. I did own two Lotus Exige in the past and didn't have great experiences (not terrible, just not that great.

[@flat6croc]

Worth noting that the GTS interior package gives you the extended leather to the door cards and dash. It's decent value in terms of the impact is makes to the cabin. If feels pretty low rent with the plastic dash and door cards.

[@SaSa-fs8sb]

Isnt the cabin very noisy? For a long drive ?

[@JadeEyedWolf]

So glad I picked up a 2022 GT4 then!

[@donoghu5907]

I agree. Same way manufacturers make those fancy motorized carriages for fancy snobs instead of well proven horse carriages that served for thousands of years.

[@flat6croc]

I wonder if Porsche is second-guessing the EV Cayster at this point. The market has turned a little against EVs of late and looking at the spy shots of the EV car, it's clearly based on the same platform as the 992 (not a huge surprise, Caysters and 911s have always shared a platform). It probably wouldn't be a catastrophic amount of work to do an ICE version. Just a thought.

[@mous3y490]

how much more money are the 10k interval maintenance between this and a gt4?

[@flat6croc]

Worth noting that the 420nm figure is limited by the rating of the gearbox. Would be a bit higher otherwise. It's weird that Porsche never commissioned an uprated version from the supplier with a bit more capacity for handling torque.

[@mangomaniac95]

I can’t decide between PDK or manual! Gah!

[@Little_Britain74]

Think like a MX-5 for driver engagement and experience an auto transmission no matter how good. It will reduce rather than add to the character of the engine.

[@jeebsy718]

The GTS interior package gives you leather on the dashboard, doors, centre console etc. Otherwise it's a textured plastic.

[@rctaz990]

Evs are out

[@driven.videos]

Not according to Porsche. Let's hope that whatever they're working on is extra-extra special.

[@rctaz990]

@driven.videos if you're working on EVs you're working on going out of business

[@gazof-the-north1980]

@@driven.videos Why would anyone want an EV death trap?. If they catch fire and are put out - They can re-ignite 48 hours later!. There's a good reason Lithium batteries are not allowed in an aircrafts cargo hold......

[@arkachatterjee5179]

@@gazof-the-north1980paranoia. There are lots of reasons to not want an EV 718 (I certainly don’t), but fire risk is pretty low on my list.

[@flat6croc]

Weird. The audio in the first few seconds is definitely PDK gear changes.

[@davidtaylor7423]

Hi, I have a 2021 GTS 4.0 and I love it, however....the engine noise at tick over and low revs is awful- weird ticking noise. It has been described in other ways by other owners but the same basic issue, some say it's the injectors others not. There are several lengthy forums on the subject on Rennlist etc. Porsche say it's normal....Wondering if anyone else has experienced this especially journalists on test drives?? Not all cars have it but many seem to.

[@davidtaylor7423]

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[@BillDunnuck]

Doesn’t seem like you get pops and bangs with the 4.0 6 cylinder whereas you get plenty of pops and bangs with the 4 cylinder turbo. Any comments on this?

[@joeharris3810]

Pops bangs turbo n/a 6 no turbo

[@neilgaydon5430]

You would struggle to get Porsche to accept an order for a basic spec GTS 4.0. I’m hearing some dealers want you to buy a Taycan or Macan AND a high spec 4.0 GTS before they’ll confirm your order.

[@LesDenwey]

“Too old for convertibles” 😮. Must be a new thing. You’re missing out.

[@thebarbershopatlakeella8102]

Electric 718 will set on the Porsche lot unsold like current tacans and 4 cylinders and cookie cutter SUVs that lose value faster than anything conventional ICE (real sports cars). I know we need to stop pumping carbon gases into the atmosphere but the internal combustion engine is a stand alone miracle of mankind.

[@daytonaeagle]

Is it me or does he sound just like Jay Emm?

[@francistsui4931]

2025 Cayman will be all Electric!🤬😡 I just got my 2024 Cayman S and it is my fifth one!

[@ThatCaymanGuy]

Don't believe the hype! As long as there's a market for petrol engines in the Cayman, Porsche will be making them.

[@Kliang07]

Laws prevent them from making them. Check out the EU Cybersecurity Law

[@ThatCaymanGuy]

@@Kliang07 that's because the EU is committing suicide by these dumb climate change laws.

[@joeharris3810]

In Australia Boxster cayman last orders for petrol in before may 27 2024

[@brentvalencia8347]

@@Kliang07but these laws could easily be circumvented. When there’s money and a will involved, there is a way.

[@a64738]

@@Kliang07 Bullshit, you can still make cars with combustion engine cars, they are not forced to do this. And sales of electric cars has gone down drastically last 2 years.

[@jaytucker4338]

#makeithowl

[@123antimiro]

Turbo engines are much better in Cayman, imediate torque is what matters. Waiting on torque in naturally aspirated engines is boring.

[@glucia2223]

You’re entitled to your opinion, even though it’s a crazy one

[@driven.videos]

Woah, that is a bold claim! I, like many others, will always opt for N/A over turbo power due to the visceral noise, rev range and general character of the powertrains, but I appreciate Turbo power also has a market and in terms of power/efficiency, it's hard to beat. I had a 996 Turbo X50 once upon a time (my own car), loved it overall, but the turbo engine is what made me sell and move on to something else. It just didn't ever feel 'special' beyond being utterly brilliant at the task at hand. - John

[@joker613]

You definetly understand a lot about driving pleasure….

[@peterbelmiro5733]

Agreed, the turbo 4 has proven to be faster than the 6. And all those saying the 6 sounds “glorious “ well…….to each their own. It’s ok, a lot better sounding 6’s. Want a glorious sound, move to a 5 cylinder

[@glucia2223]

@@peterbelmiro5733 the turbo model is only faster with a tune. And then you can tune the 6 cylinder and get almost 50hp, which shouldn’t even be possible on an NA engine. But Porsche knows what it has in the 718 4 liter and detunes it to not step on the 911’s toes. The 4 liter versions of the 718 are the best non-GT cars Porsche currently produces.

[@charlesrogers8420]

lol…… the EV hype has faded. I hope Porsche keeps building EVs for upper class snobs that believe in climate hysteria rather than making ICE cars for enthusiasts.