Porsche 944 TIMING BELTS by the Earle of Snobbington, Casey Putsch!

[@john-vy1ml]

For aspiring mecbanics. Take pics with your phone during disassembly. Especially with older cars.

[@tomsfruitstand6821]

Do that all the time at work. Have more pics of engines than anything else lol.

[@pdennis93]

No disassemble! 🤣🤣🤣

[@hlaw2830]

Buy a service manual and read it too, failing to do so is the only reason people can't find torque specs, et al. And yes, you should *always* use proper torque specs, *always*. Likewise, there are plenty of tools you can save money on, a lot of money, but a torque wrench isn't one of them. If your car uses stretch bolts, suck it up and spend the extra $480 for Snap-On, sometimes you don't have 180° of space, and the TechAngle will record the distance you've traveled, so you can do 18° ten times or whatever it might be. Plus, if any business is going to be around to honor their lifetime warranty, it's Snap-On.

[@Iskelderon]

Really appreciate that you're keeping in those moments where something goes wrong. There's always a chance of something like that happening and being able to adapt and fix problems that arise along the way are a necessary part of the skillset to develop.

[@P1983sche]

lennier1 Exactly. He could easily edit that out and he doesn’t. You truly don’t turn wrenches on a car with out some fumbles.

[@ScottJ175]

Yeah the fact he keeps his head in the midst of a mistake came to mind as I was rebuilding the front suspension on my 2003 Ram over the past week.

[@kmueller44]

I have absolutely enjoyed every minute of this. The reality that nobody is perfect is so refreshing and makes me feel a lot better about mistakes I have made. Thank you Casey!

[@BAWnd4spd]

Btw - the best scene in Short Circuit (in my opinion) is when he disassembled the dudes camaro in the front yard in like 2 minutes.

[@tolkienleung]

Join a group of us on fb, called Porsche 944 NO SPAM. No P-snobs there, we love transaxle/water cooled. Some of the most knowledgeable and friendly folks are on there...great resource and we would love you have you a part of it. Love the commentary. I dropped all my lifters on the first removal of the cam tower even after reading about the entire procedure. Looking forward to more content, especially while finally driving it.

[@jonkeau5155]

Brass mallets are great! I have one that I use which was my grandpas, he won it in a giveaway at the Indy 500, has the Indy 500 emblem stamped on the side of the head and a machined aluminum handle.

[@richardsimmons6470]

Probably worth a lot of money now

[@CaseyPutsch]

May as well go for entertainment value!

[@erichakanson7010]

Does being the Earl of Snobbington come with any royal benefits? Do we have to start referring to you as "Sir Casey?" If entertainment value was your goal....mission accomplished! However I do have a tech question. All of my Porsche wrenching (both "with tools" and "gut") begins and ends with flat 4's and flat 6's. Are the issues you've addressed today and in yesterday's video common occurrences on non-flat 6 motors i.e I-4's, V-8's, etc. I'm thinking of buying my first front engine, GT-style Porsche and I'm currently looking at a 928 S4 and a 928 gts, do those have any issues specific to their V8's?

[@SimonTekConley]

Short circuit

[@learningwithjuan]

Casey when the heck you are going to make a t-shirt of your own? Specially that says WElCOME TO SONNY SILVANIA! Jajajjjjj

[@CaseyPutsch]

@@learningwithjuan I have t shirts! Check out the MERCH link!

[@briantracy1324]

26:26 Not at all ,, I just changed wheel bearings on a Ford Focus with a splitting maul a 2x4 and a large socket... gotta do what you gotta do...

[@FormulaJuann]

Casey should definitely be on Joe Rogan’s podcast it would definitely draw awareness and interest to genius garage!!!

[@CaseyPutsch]

Working on it. Need to be bigger first. Maybe this summer...

[@ScottJ175]

Loving this series. Glad I discovered it. Makes me not shy away from 944s if I happen across the right deal.

[@chriszasada9756]

Again , with you showing the mistakes being made , reinforces the learning curve on doing this repair.

[@tommym6248]

Following! Been dealing with watercooled Porsches and VW Rabbit/Jetta/Sciroccos since the late 80's. Owned a bunch and always did my own work. Currently have a 924 Turbo, 944 and a pair of Sciroccos. One Mk1 Scirocco and a 16V Mk2. Last time I did 944 timing belts, I used what was left of the old balance shaft belt by wrapping it around the pulley and pinching it with a big pair of vise grips kind of like a strap wrench. Held the pulley just fine to tighten/loosen it. I like the tool you made, though!

[@jimcolangelo7003]

That T-shirt is awesome. I loved that movie as a kid. I think it made me anthropomorphize everything mechanical from that day forward.

[@chrisferrara3061]

Tip! Porsche used a common pulley for the top and bottom balance shaft. But they need to be indexed opposite each other. So Make sure you indexed the balance shaft pulleys correctly. On early cars there’s “O” that needs to be seen through the circle opening on the top pulley flange. (O lines up with woodruff key. The bottoms pulley is opposite. The “O” is seen through the rectangle opening of the pulley flange. It’s important you have it right. If your lower BShaft is rotating 180* off then you will feel a nasty vibration at around 3000-4000rpm.

[@mullner88]

chris ferrara this is great advice! I ran into this back when I did a timing service on my 944

[@TheJagjr4450]

I had a 86 944 Turbo (951) back in the early 90's when I was in college... my dad hated paying for the service when I took it in... had to do the timing and balance belts along with eccentric and tensioner once... That car was blistering fast.

[@ScottsSynthStuff]

Online forums are a good place to find common hose replacements for expensive/unavailable OEM hoses. When I had to replace the $50 radiator hoses on my old 1982 GL1100, I discovered in a forum that you could buy a specific hose at NAPA for $12, cut it in half, and it replaces both of the $50 Honda hoses. Win!

[@fryreartechnology7611]

I’m enjoying this way too much. People fear what they don’t understand. That is so much easier then a 2003 Nissan 3.3L v6 timing belt, 2014 Dodge Avenger timing chain, 2009 Jeep Wrangler timing chain... every car I have had to work on besides my BMW. The S54 is a awesome bullet prof motor

[@billswim]

Porsche Mechanic here. I think i winced about 16 times watching you make some potentially expensive mistakes. While I applaud your motives, I'm not so sure about your method :P Your experience and feel saved you multiple times which the average DIYer doesn't have. Make fun all you want but Porsches (even 944s) are engineered to a higher standard than most other cars and when doing maintenance on them there is only 1 right way to do it. Each washer the bean counters tried to get eliminated and the engineers had to fight to keep 'em in there. That being said, fun channel.

[@CaseyPutsch]

I knew people would wince. I just wanted to keep it real. Actually going to throttle back on the devil may care approach. Want to let people know this is still serious business. You'll love the next one.

[@davidkaehele8910]

If you don't want to weld up a tool to hold the sprockets just use a long pair of 90 degree needle nose pliers. Works great.

[@stymiesnerdly771]

"Do as I say, not as I do." - Every parent in the 80's

[@chuckhawes7519]

I had my wife help me install and weld a custom exhaust on my car. Best helper ever.

[@P1983sche]

My wife is so great at using logic. She’s helped me out a ton in mechanical situations. She actually takes the time to “read” instructions, where I just tend to dive in with out reading lol.

[@notajp]

My wife actually helped me drop the trans (auto) out of my Dakota, rebuild it, and put it back in. Unfortunately she earned a black eye for her efforts when the greasy ratchet slid out of her hand while tightening a bellhousing bolt, and the end of the handle hit her in the upper cheek. I took some razzing over that one for a while....

[@chuckhawes7519]

@@notajp we are lucky men to have ladies that aren't afraid to get their hands dirty.

[@mpikas]

120V MIG welders are tuned best for .023/.024/.025" (they're all the same, just what different manufacturers call them) wire, their 240V versions are usually tuned for .030" wire. Both will work with anything from .023-.035" wire, but they will work slightly better with the size they were tuned to work with. MIG (gas-shielded) is the way to go for general flexibility, but I recommend people keep some .030 or .035" flux core wire around- it will let you weld heavier steel (it runs hotter), will work in a breeze (if you need to drag it out to the driveway and you don't have to drag a bottle with you), and it will let you get the job done if you run out of shielding gas or wire in the middle of a job. The composite (plastic) sprockets were almost always used to quiet things down some.

[@happyfox711]

The 944 it's a great little car. It's one of my all time favorites. Unless you have another video you forgot the most important and the dreaded part, namely how you tension the timing belt right. If it's too loose, you might skip teeth and worse, if too tight it will run just fine, until one day (far too soon) your waterpump bearing gives in, get's jammed and gives you a lot of unnecessary grief. Believe me I've had a waterpump fail and finally seize completely, I think the last owner of the car actually warped the head because of this, combined with a funky temp sensor. So bad things can really happen. Another detail about bearings, if your tensioner for the timing belt is metal, it's original, and from 1983. That includes it's bearing. After that they came in some fancy plastic that they say is equally good but it isn't (only equally priced) and a way to save on production costs. I've been trying to figure out if anyone ever pressed new bearings into one of the old ones but I never came across any so far. If you wonder why I care to comment it's because I happen to have an '83, just like this - the very first 944 model for you guys in the states. It came with beautiful forged rods that they also swapped out for cheaper ones later. You're right the last owner of yours had to cut holes in the cover to make the new type waterpump fit, with the divider thing on it.

[@leylow01]

“Hey lazer lips, your momma was a snowblower” 😂😂 childhood movie

[@hookyjo72]

Thank you Casey for keeping it Real!!!!! I don't own any Cars like you have, but I enjoy your Videos. I own a 2008 Ford Crown Victoria Police interceptor and I do most of my own work on it, and even with this Car a lot of Garages are Snobby and I have been charged Way!!!! To Much for Service

[@thatrealba]

"It sounds like you impersonating the internet." BAHAHAHAAHAH shes a gem!

[@TeddyWhite]

Love the fact that the Earl now has his own tool range to sell to the Porsche snobs

[@CaseyPutsch]

BOOM! :)

[@nanoreaper5002]

Man this video brings me back too high school when I spent hours working on my old 1980 924 Turbo... I am now on the hunt for another forgotten Porsche the 968 I think it would be a fun project car.

[@ScottJ175]

When your wife came in to help I told mine "see, dear, I'm not the only one who does that". Kudos to yours for jumping right in.

[@theecstatic9686]

Please continue to document and broadcast everything you do...

[@bradklingensmith]

Casey's fundraiser for Genius Garage, short snippets being the internet for custom phone ringers. I'd be in for some.

[@schigara]

Thank you so much for NOT painting the cam carriage! When I see people paint the cam carriage on a 944 as if it were a tin valve cover on a small block chevy, it makes me come close to stroking out.

[@artmchugh5644]

That thrust washer goes flat against the oil pump drive , so you can't deform it! ! Just saying!

[@nextechandroid]

"I could always sandblast this or gold plate it and sell it to a Porsche guy for 10 grand or something" hahahahahah believe me, some Porsche snob would buy it if it had a Porsche logo :) nice vid though

[@rmcl6135]

Would be cool if you could do some prepared videos on the 944 just to show a more fluid how to... although I am just making my way through your 944 videos now as I'm looking to buy one in England

[@davegillette953]

Thanks Casey nice video and I appreciate you sharing your passion it is contagious. Keep up the great work!

[@nigelcarruthers7301]

No disassemble, Casey! I always carry a dead blow hammer for the rare occasion I have a flat, crucial for getting those alloy rims off that seized to the iron hub of the wheel. I've had it happen with steel wheels also, so a good tool to carry.

[@artmchugh5644]

Nigel Carruthers grease the hub behind the wheel !!! Never beat on it again !!😄😄😄😄😄😄😄🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺

[@bradklingensmith]

The best mechanic is one who catches their mistake, corrects their mistake, and learns from their mistake.

[@danielcollins2617]

Also a 90 degree needle nose pliers from Harbor Freight works to hold sprockets too. Great video.

[@danielcollins2617]

I might have said that 7 months ago too. Doh!

[@irdmoose]

Is it wrong that I LOL'd at Casey asking his wife for his nuts?

[@ODoyleRoolz22]

For the balance shaft pulleys you can use a set of 90 degree bent nose pliers.

[@ghostwrench2292]

Great video overall, I appreciate your honesty in noting your mistakes. Modern timing belts are a little more complex when you’re dealing with DOHC, VVT, DI, freewheeling crank pulleys, etc...

[@recyclespinning9839]

I just bought a 924.S switched out the bad seats they had , back to the original factory seats and brackets myself,, .However I think I'm gonna leave the timing belt to a local guy that deals with these cars. Gonna have an inspection done also. I heard the clutch would be a huge ticket $$ item.

[@TakeFlightGarage]

Earl of Snobbington 🤦🏻‍♂️ that needs to be on a Casey Putsch 944 tee shirt. You’d make millions.

[@redlinemusic1608]

i do like the new intro

[@SRMWorkshop]

I mostly use a Hobart MIG, but use the 0.035 wire as it is much cheaper when buying 10lb spools. So far having the thicker wire has not been a problem even on very thin sheet metal.

[@jrea5150]

Looks good. Should run nicely and not leak. Looking forward to you getting it all put back together and firing it up.

[@happyfox711]

It's true what u say about cheaping out on the rollers, the '83 had metal rollers that you could change out the bearings only. I got the kit with the damned plastic ones, and had to put them on, cause I didn't have time to get the bearings for the old ones. But next belt change I will get the bearings and install the old metal wheels.

[@kevinbarry71]

Nobody ever expects the Spanish Inquisition

[@nicktwentyfive]

that Short Circuit shirt is awesome

[@STOLerant]

Number 5 ALIVE! Loved that movie.

[@FluffyFerretFarm]

The brass hammer absorbs the impact instead of transferring the energy.. just helping the youngsters understand the explanation better..

[@augustsawzak5401]

It transfers more energy since it deforms. If you throw a clay ball at an open door, the door will swing farther than if hit with a bouncy ball.

[@ghostwrench2292]

Brass is a softer metal than steel so using a brass hammer on steel is not going to dent steel components...when used in the proper application.

[@augustsawzak5401]

@@ghostwrench2292 right, more even pressure distribution since the brass deforms, meaning more transfer of energy

[@therealboofighter]

7:12 you mixed up Short Circuit one and two. Lol. But you get a pass because you remember both movies and I get the fail because I cared enough to point this out.

[@artmchugh5644]

If you take the pulleys and clean them and the shaft with brake clean , they will slide on VERY EASY and will come off easy as well ! Just sayin

[@Shimstock74]

Whoa there! Putting a touch of anti-sieze or oil on it will make it easier and stop it from sticking on after a while.

[@bradklingensmith]

I remember changing the timing chain on a 70s ford 351m and the lower gear was a polymer job. I was shocked, but was able to order a genuine metal gear to replace it.

[@strikeforcetireguy1]

I feel that both you and Prince Harry would be great friends. You should hire him. I heard hes looking for a job.

[@jamesluke7377]

We ALL have our stupidities in points as well as times/moments. We are ALL built in imperfections Casey.

[@georgelowden6360]

Casey you should replace your translucent seals and possibly sleeves with front seals for your balance shafts and camshaft. Don’t forget the new o-ring for the oil pump sleeve/gear.

[@howardsmiller]

"Porsche snobs"... ok, ok, we get it :-D :-D .

[@coreynorton4544]

Dude, this vid made me sub, lol, 80s kid here myself, love your vids.

[@taskmaster58]

My buddy has a 968 that he is dreading doing the timing belts because of the extra balancer belt, maybe I should steer him towards these vids to sort him out. When I rebuilt another buddies 911 engine I got the parts from Pelican, the prices there didn't seem too bad even with the exchange rate and shipping. (I live in Canada)

[@robertemory441]

You are doing well my friend. Keep op the good work. Thank you.

[@artmchugh5644]

Casey , well done !!! Just a tip , put your 24mm on the crank and rotate the engine 1 revolution, check the FLYWHEEL !!! TDC. mark . once you have the marks lined up , check all of the belts for cam mark and balance shaft marks !!! Hopefully they are good! !!😄😄😄😄😄🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺

[@eighty6gt]

Only one revolution eh

[@artmchugh5644]

eighty6gt if everything is right , one is enough! Then put the covers on !!😄😄🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺

[@rrassoc]

The crank needs to turn two revolutions for the cam's one for both to be at TDC.

[@nicklittle3352]

I need to change my camshaft housing and I am terrified of removing the timing belt (I'm a novice mechanic) hoping this video can help me reinstall it.

[@jeffflanagan2814]

What happened after you put that first pulley on backwards?

[@jpez15]

Lol my guy...did you remove the washer from the cam belt tensioner? Why??

[@danielcollins2617]

Love the welded tool idea -- very cool but .... 90 degree Needle Nose Pliers for 9.99 does the same.

[@72Disco1998]

Speaking like someone from Johnston Co, NC love it.

[@redstreet8012]

I thought I was country.

[@fastinradfordable]

“You can get away with screwing up” When talking about jamming the crank thrust main bearings. ... Easy to say when you have. A garage full of cars.

[@DownwithDoug]

Okay did you start the loan a tool program for that pulley tool.

[@UnfocusedRacing]

I liked the second Short Circuit movie as a kid. I have it but haven't watched it in a long time. Maybe I should.

[@jeremyhanna3852]

I suggest the vulcan migmax 215 dual voltage there 800$ ish it's a great welder

[@richardsimmons6470]

Casey Got a minor problem. That lower Balance Shaft Pully - The one you knocked on with a brass hammer Where is the Key pointing On mine I have not moved the bottom shaft and its up the top on a rival video its down the bottom Any Ideas please Thanks

[@admiralfloofz658]

Theres a stamped O on the pulley. On the top pulley the O is supposed to be visible throu a circular hole. On the bottom its a smaller rectangular hole.

[@chriszasada9756]

I still have the Honda 3.o V6 tool I made out of a exhaust hanger to hold timing belt tensioner .

[@stitch2k1]

I bought the tools but I'm doing all the work myself including the pump. Hoping to use my skills doing this to possibly do it on the side for other people.

[@somelosertv3438]

Thinking about buying a 944, how often do you have to change the timing on these? is it mileage or is it just by wear?

[@gabem8119]

I used to work on Porsches some years ago and if I remember right the replacement time was every 2 yrs or 30K miles. This shows some good instructions on how it’s done, www.944online.com/yabbfiles/Attachments/eng-10.pdf. Not sure if a lot of people know but the later 944’s had a timing belt tensioner which made it so much easier to do. The older models require you getting the Porsche tensioner tool to set the correct tension, I always thought it was a pain to use. I miss my 944 I wish I never sold it.😢

[@kb9oak749]

Pro Tip: If it looks completely wrong, it probably is.

[@robertjoyce4553]

You should put a gopro down in the bay for some good B roll

[@Bmxracerx]

the Jhony 5 shirt is amazing hehe

[@montevallomustang]

The special super expensive tool is only 88 bucks lol. I always buy the special tools does that make me the tool of snobbington?

[@cyrusdougherty9142]

Casey pitch I’m a new youtuber and I was wondering if you had any tips and trick for any from editing to how I should go about social media

[@KenW66]

Casey, it's not a mistake if you can see that it's not right and are doing it for educational purposes. I also think that a video of making tools that help you get the job done would be a good idea for young mechanics and engineers, so they can see the process of designing and building things as well as designing and building the tools to build those things.

[@agatemaster1998]

I did the same with a throw out bearing dropped off the input shaft and had a box full of neutrals no fun had to pull the gear box out again. No job is worth doing unless you do it twice ha ha

[@fastinradfordable]

If you say flux core makes bad dirty welds. You didn’t do it right.

[@dpoarch]

Loved that movie

[@posergawd4376]

The MJ 1 Glove Period Correct Joke had be

[@tempest411]

I have the special pin wrench to hold the pulleys, and also the thin wrench for counter holding the eccentrics. I think I paid $20.00 for them.

[@niacal4nia]

Couldn't you use a 928 flywheel lock tool?

[@happyfox711]

Lol, I had to make one of those, too. I bought the cheapest one I could find, and hacked it down to the right size and shape with an angle grinder.

[@frankbruce4288]

3:05 I totally agree. Buy a welder so you can make stuff.

[@vikingboar4336]

"People think that I'm a good mechanic, but I'm just a phony." *wink*

[@Shimstock74]

Ya man, confidence and humbleness in the face of lack of knowledge can do wonders.

[@vikingboar4336]

@@Shimstock74 That was a goofy reference to the video with "Viper Driving Lesson" in the thumbnail. At one point, Casey said "People think I can drive, but I'm just a phony." and winked his eye, indicating that he was joking. I didn't make that clear.

[@williamsmith4220]

In the service manual, the balance belt roller, (the metal eccentric one) should have a gap of 1 mm between it and the belt.

[@CaseyPutsch]

William Smith really? Then what’s the point?

[@williamsmith4220]

@@CaseyPutsch nevermind, I got it mixed up. The BOTTOM needs a half millimeter gap, the TOP side needs 1 millimeter PRELOAD, which is what you did. Brainfart, my bad lol

[@zechsblack5891]

Timing belts... Casey Casey... Talk about dealer bait.. The first conservatively priced car I bought from a dealership with financing was at the time a 4 year old low trim Civic. I had been driving an old beater until the timing belt suddenly sent the old Hyundai motor to heaven on the way home from work at midnight one Friday.. So, first financed car, first fairly new car, I'm taking great care of it and the payment is only about 140 a month due to a nice down payment. I was too poor to buy a reliable car for uni but just not poor enough to qualify for a car loan go figure... Anyway, it came with some "free" oil changes. I normally do all my maintenance but hell, it's free right? It quickly becomes clear that it's just a way to try to charge me for other stuff. I expected that. What I didn't expect was 6mo into "owning" it the service guy tells me I'm going to need a new timing belt and it would be about 1400 dollars. RIP, I can't afford that. So I double my hours at my second job, I modify my life to conserve money, all while already working full time and being a full time mechanical engineering student.. having to save for this timing belt really stressed my already stressed life, but hey I had this brightly colored print out telling me I had to get this timing belt changed.. About half way into saving the money I stopped being so dim and decided I was going to spend half the money on new tools and parts and do it myself. At least that way I'd have the tools that were currently preventing me from doing any serious work you know? Research mode engage! Research mode lasted 20min... Honda hadn't used timing belts in nearly all motors for like 8 years.. my car didn't have a timing belt... All that stress and change for.. well not nothing, but how the hell did this happen? Did the service rep intentionally deceive me and generate a bogus report? Certainly their system wouldn't issue false maintenance advice (having changed majors to compsci I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the system was junk tbh).. The rep was ready to take my money that day and send me home in a loaner.. I genuinely wonder what would have happened if I'd had the money to pay... And that's the story of the last time I took my car to a dealer for maintenance...

[@charliepsholka]

I'm pretty sure that the "Corvette Guys" would feel the same pain watching me work on my car as the "Porsche Guys" feel watching this video. But guess what, my car is fast, reliable, I'm not afraid to have fun and break it and i can fix anything for 20% as it would cost at the shop. Who needs a ton of money when you have the will to take these matters into your own hands.

[@RealWorldGarage]

I’ve gone in the back to look for a hose that I could make work many times. If they don’t want to let me I find somewhere else to spend my money.

[@exdime]

Check out nycnc they are building a full size Jonny 5

[@Johnathan_Waters]

Did you just reference Short Circuit?? Didn't expect that ... lol

[@Rennpanzer]

Great video but your car is red. Could you stop by and demonstrate how the T-belt is changed on a grey 944?

[@Nappylou69]

Johnny5 best movie robot!

[@4englishlies875]

What is that saying?.... It is a fool that does not know when a mistake is being made. At least you show that you are not a fool. Great video.

[@free-birdrocker8809]

There is a very expensive German made timing belt deflection tool that is necessary for this job. I think it was $20,000, and you have to repeat this process after 1000 miles....Yiiiikkeesss. and every 30,000 miles, yikkkes. LOL! Achtung!