Porsche Panamera GTS details with $50k in options

[@DaveA441]

It takes a certain type of person to be able to watch Nick rave and rant about Porsches and options for 30 min. I love watching the videos where he builds cars and judge every option on the configurator.

[@Alex.AL_26]

I wish he would build and give his opinion on options on other cars besides Porsche. It is very helpful when purchasing a new car.

[@Carpetone]

DaveA441 Like wise

[@cbatiau2528]

Well, I'm the type of guy that will listen because I have owned two Panameras and am contemplating buying a third...

[@992turbos8]

DaveA441 Nick may be a bit quirky but he does not BS like most You Tubers trying to convince them selfs and over sell there review.

[@MrS5x]

that is why we are all here :)

[@batbawls]

Where's the 22" alcantara coated wheels option, Porsche?

[@ilcapitano010]

”It’s a wonderful package!” I bet that’s not the first time you’ve said that Nick..?

[@mendesrui]

Damm you Nick, people are trying to work here. Don’t think I can have a 30 min toilet break.

[@dodgethehell]

lol

[@erhardt1477]

Well... I have to admit, I can’t wait for Mr. Murray to look at the Porsche Taycan 💪 Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪

[@RobG001]

Hear, hear...

[@foesfly3047]

I was literally just thinking the same thing. I noticed some other channel doing a review but that guy and me aren't long time good friends like Me and Nick are. I'll just wait.

[@Acarsfault]

You are German and you are waiting from an overseas opinion ?? where are u living ?

[@erhardt1477]

Acarsfault Well... What does my current place of residency got to do with ...anything ..?🤔

[@kirillgribov4380]

Erhardt simply watch Tesla review and you’ll see same thing! However Tesla is more honest since they don’t put TURBO on the rear of the car.

[@Csl74csl]

A solid 11 out of 10 for Nick’s horrendously looking glasses..

[@NickMurray]

CSL 74 don’t hate me because I’m beautiful

[@Csl74csl]

Nick Murray cheers mate

[@wesleypowell9907]

Goddamnit we’ve missed your videos, sir

[@adamp6666]

I’m glad you came around and were willing to reconsider. I think the GTS is such a great deal. Nicely done!

[@ggarrison1087]

which is higher: porsche's margin % on the gear lever upgrade....or the painted key fob?

[@992turbos8]

G Garrison You forgot the $350 decal on the door. That cost Porsche .37 cents.

[@guydavies3035]

$420 for a rear USB is pretty expensive too!!

[@992turbos8]

Guy Davies Hey Guy the one I had second thoughts about after the heat of the moment was the $1250 Personalized ( Turbo S ) Door-Sill Guards in Stainless Steel, Illuminated

[@rmpph]

First it was praise for the Macan GTS, then hype over the Cayman/Boxster GTS, and now this video talking up the Panamera GTS. Is some GTS owner holding Tui hostage for random Nick?

[@FishFind3000]

FuelAaron he might be trying to get a gt3 or something and is in hot water with Porsche.

[@jeffreykilpatrick3592]

My Panamera 4 hybrid is being built currently and will be delivered the first week of January. Total cost $167,000. Porsche executive canceled my Bose stereo system because of chip issues and did not give me the opportunity to upgrade to the Burmeister system. Seems crazy that a $167,000 luxury sedan will have a 150 watt stereo system,

[@AppLeCLuTCH]

it would be interesting to see you compare this to the RS7, BMW M8 GC, AMG GT 63s 3door

[@trihardcx6743]

This competes with the M850i, not the M8.

[@cvn6555]

That is a LOT of options. I have occasioned to hit the Porsche website and configure vehicles just to marvel at the options available and the insane prices of said options. Covering things in leather seems to be the most crazy. Air vent louvers can be covered in leather; can't remember what the cost was but it was far more than one might consider. Then again, as Nick stated and as my Porsche salesman also stated, "These cars aren't for everyone".

[@oomstu]

those sunglasses, sure I also seen them on Ron Jeremy :P

[@NickMurray]

My life coach

[@venom5809]

I met him two years ago, he looked like death, like he was going to keel over at any minute, I felt sorry for him.

[@MWS1960]

Nick Murray love those. Do you mind asking what make they are ? 👍

[@yitznewton]

If I buy two whole cars with that $50k, can I combine the acceleration and braking numbers?

[@awinis]

I've driven it hard on the track, its almost as crisp as a 911. It really shrinks around you and you can place it on the corners very precisely.

[@JulezWinnfield]

Why is Albert worried about making friends in the "GST" community (at the 01:00 videomark)?

[@ubonrat8653]

I see Nick & Albert I stay awake a little longer good evening from Thailand

[@MarkBklyn]

My 911 C4S, i added 54k in options last year. You saw it Nick. I am the type of person where if i do not get every option when building a car, i grow to hate my car. Maybe it’s being selfish, hungry.. whatever it may be. I also do ALOT of miles, 20k a year.

[@AutoAmateur]

Ahhhh!! Our Panamera videos dropped a few days apart!! 😆 I bow down to your awesomeness Nick. Your vids are so good. 🙌

[@fdu5454]

Nice review - love the instant selection from 8th gear to 4th when you accelerate

[@woodypwx]

I like this new Panamera a lot, unlike Sport Turismo or the old model. And that rear wing is awesome!

[@parrishwl]

hey Albert^^ thank god the "GST" community is pretty small compared to the GTS one

[@ByHarrywatson71]

I don’t know if it’s just me but that steering wheel looks absolutely awful. Having said that a V8 Panamera Sport Turismo is a beautiful thing in my opinion (without black wheels)

[@atastefortheroad4475]

My thoughts exactly - the ST w/silver rims and exhaust cannons nicely configure would be exceptional.

[@guydavies3035]

Agree entirely. Much prefer to have full leather steering wheel, than a mixture of leather and hard slippy plastic. I do understand the gear-lever upgrade. As these are controls that you touch every time, often several times you use the car, having a nice gear lever and door handles makes a huge difference (to me!). I don’t like the 992 shaver for a gear lever, nor the fabric door controls on the T and GT models. I know the little piece of aluminium that I pull in my 991.2 will weigh a couple of grammes more...but the tactile nature of the solid handle is such a nice feeling.

[@ale3hs]

This one is loaded has a lots of really nice options, i'd ditch the brakes (nice but really overkill), alcantara seats, definitely skip the carbon wheel then I'd just add tinted noise and heat isolated glass and it's pretty much perfect.

[@javierlinera1707]

The 4 e hybrid is definitely the way to go other than the turbo models. The hybrid power terrain eliminate the 400 pound penalty against the gts getting 3.6 sec to 60. Apply all the options to the e hybrid and get it for the same cost.

[@gerryparente9334]

I've just taken delivery of my optioned-up Panamera GTS 2019. While this car may not be for everybody, I'm more than impressed with the whole package, and there's absolutely no buyer's remorse!!!

[@mreddieotis]

Nick,would be nice to see you do a review of the Porsche Cayenne in the S or Turbo or the current trend in GTS models. Thanks for taking the time to go thru the options. Really hats of to all you do!

[@PatrickAndrewsMacphee]

It needs 2 fewer doors and a shortened wheelbase....and maybe a 928+ badge

[@MBisFrenchy]

On the silly wing it would be cool to have a sticker on the part that's exposed only once the wing is active for a good chuckle.

[@TheZane03]

180k is insane

[@superb63amg94]

Hey Nick nice review, but it's quite obvious to me that Connecticut State Troopers love you. Just saying!😅🤣

[@superb63amg94]

Hey Nick that GTS will handle quite well on the track, especially with the body leveling capability. My CLS 63 AMG is a beast on the track.

[@NickMurray]

SuperB63AMG they handle ‘okay’ they can not get past the weight problem no matter what handing improvements they make

[@superb63amg94]

@@NickMurray Hey Nick, it's not so much the weight, but it's the weight distribution. I have owned many relatively light front engine cars that can't corner for shit. Great track cars are mostly mid engine. Why? Balance my friend! That's the key! Case in point is the front engine Corvette versus the new C8.

[@superb63amg94]

@@NickMurray Sorry to bust your bubble Nick, but have you seen the HEAVY AMG GT 63 S around the Nurburgring? Enjoy! LOL!!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/apPKfZ2ZjZuBi5Y

[@cbatiau2528]

Even with air suspension on my two Panameras, I've scraped pavement numerous times; that's the only reason why I insist on air suspension -- ground clearance. I can't imagine owning a Panamera without it because I'd be scraping bottom probably weekly. I have my diamond key set to raise the suspension for driveway dips and speed bumps.

[@jandersen6802]

Does the lower weight of the carbon ceramic brakes give a noticeably better ride quality? (because of lower unsprung weight)

[@makatron]

I've always hated the lack of bench seating in those but once you sit in those rear buckets you'll love them.

[@renerobes30]

In sake of full disclosure, is the ultimate owner going to be informed of your involvement in this car? I foresee an ADM, with a signature on the glove box, "Driven and Approved by Nick Murray". I would go with the 4S, 13 HP isn't important, I went with a 911 C4S a year ago.

[@neutronstar44]

Great video. My local dealer was telling me about the 10 years edition and the GTS models only yesterday.

[@davidpbauer]

Worth watching just for Nick's sensual handling of the steering wheel!

[@5eliazer]

So do you think PDCC would actually be worth anything on this car given the size and weight?

[@DerOllie]

@1:37 What's was that for green line screen?

[@andromedazoowitski5903]

Heading to the beach Neck - got me excited. But alas - no budgies were getting smuggled today.

[@ThenewtejasO8]

Nick do a every option reviewed on the 911 cs or gts

[@shotsfiredandmissed9068]

It's quite a glorious vehicle, but sadly not all of us can afford such a masterpiece. I'll just stick to my eyes then enjoying those luxury vehicles as they past by :)

[@jordonstudio]

I think this person spec'd their car specifically around that Stereo. Alcantara seats and roof liner makes for some serious sound dampening. Leather is a much better for sound than the plastics and he made sure to cover every surface. This is a moving audio box

[@ormand3000]

You're a God damn moron!

[@cls63amgwagon34]

Could you test a 4S with PASM PDCC vs the GTS?

[@statesidesupercars]

The shape of this car always reminds me of a dog sitting down for a number 2.

[@dsp1970]

Nick why don't you appreciate Porsche cars? Sorry you don't enjoy driving them.... shame really! :) On a serous note just drove the Tycan Turbo yesterday for the first time and I wasn't sure what to expect but WOW WOW and WOW!! What an amazing car by all accounts! Its fast as hell and it wasn't even the turbo S! I can tell you that when the salesman launched the car I felt the rush of acceleration like I've never felt in an automobile and it was a little scary as a passenger with no control! Porsche has definitely got it right with the new Tycan and it's a true winner and should be a big sales success for the brand! They are expensive and for a select few who can afford them they are getting their moneys worth in my opinion! Reason why Porsche cars are expensive is they exude quality and everything on the inside looks great and feels amazing to touch and not one creak or rattle anywhere! Great review Nick by and keep the Porsche content coming! Porsche there is no SUBSTITUTE!

[@NickMurray]

what do you mean? I love these cars

[@TheWombatCredenza]

I have never been a Superfan, but I may be reaching that level with Nick Murray. Or I may be losing my mind.

[@RobG001]

Speedo reads 71mph, speed limit 55mph, according to the car, Nick obviously road testing down in Mexico again :) Great to see a longer video from Mr Murry again. Why only the one ape? what has happened to the other one?

[@mrla6240]

where is the leather wrapped fire extinguisher option? :-)

[@jaybuckets2153]

Waiting on my allocation for the new redesigned model . 🤞🏼

[@kittypultorak1731]

Have you taken your fixed wing check ride? Need more flying videos !

[@aguafria9565]

My grandma told me to tell you she wants her sunglasses back.

[@Nord_Mann]

Just back from Porsche on ice were we drove almost every model available Porsche sells today, including the Taycan Turbo, and the Panamera ST GTS was the only disappointment of the lot. The Panamera e-hybrid was the biggest surprise with the most menacing exhaust note of them all.

[@cbatiau2528]

I'm guessing it was the Turbo S E-Hybrid with the V8 engine... The Pan4 E-Hybrid has the V6 engine...

[@Nord_Mann]

cba tiau not the Turbo S version. That’s why it was such an surprise. The V6 was louder than the 992.

[@ThunderTiger0801]

Here in Germany the Panamera GTS takes 4,1 sec from 0 to 100km/h. Do you know why? Almowt all models are 0,2 seconds slower than in the US I think

[@lawor8]

Hey Nick I know this is off topic but ( as a helicopter pilot) do you have any thoughts about the helicopter safety as it pertains to Kobe's helicopter crash?

[@NickMurray]

lawor8 we need to wait for NTSB but looks like pilot flew VFR into IFR

[@lawor8]

@@NickMurray why dont helicopters have black boxes...strange

[@superb63amg94]

@@NickMurray SVFR into IMC

[@WinterCharmVT]

Any plans to make a video on optioning the Taycan? I'd love to hear your take on what is and isn't worth it.

[@horatiotimewaster5755]

Did someone order this and then walk away? I can't see a dealer specifying a car like this with so many Exclusive options.

[@wards6377]

I don't get you get this deep into speccing and then end up with black on grey :(

[@jeffreykilpatrick3592]

Lane keep assist does work well. If you wander once and it saves you as you fiddle with the radio - it is a bargain safety option. I have lane keep in my 911 Targa 4 and it has several times saved me from drifting into an adjacent lane by accident. Well worth the money in my opinion and I have it listed on my new Panamera being delivered in January of 23’. The big advantage is the back seats - I ordered the executive because my 2016 Panamera did not have enough room in the back seats. The point of the Panamera is to have the ability to carry a second couple - or gorillas- in the back seats comfortably and the standard Panamera is too small in the back seats. I read that the new 2024 all electric Panamera will actually be increased in length to provide more room in the back seats which is a good move by Porsche.

[@null_foo]

Hi Nick, I'm curious as to the state of Porsche's "autonomy" (if I can call it that) as of now. I plan to order a Taycan 4S once the regular Performance battery is available and I will obviously get the Innodrive system. I was interested as to how it performs on the Porsche current lineup as a whole (ACC, Lane Keep, Blind Spot, traffic sign rec., emergency/intersection steer, etc...). What are the limitations of the system? How does it compare to a Tesla's? I drive on the highways a lot so it'll be used mostly there, but how does it behave on city roads? How far can you "realistically" drive hands-free? I know you said around 15 sec in the video but what if it was on a relatively straight road following a vehicle? I'm curious to see how Porsche is in terms of the autonomous driving market, I think Audi is doing fairly well so I believe it would be fair to say the technology would be shared. Thanks

[@rhollyday]

First! In the past I have looked with confusion on the list of available interior options, so I enjoyed your explanation of the options with video.

[@Vampirebear13]

Nick I just found the car on their website. $179k but damn what a car. Oh btw, I saw the guy's comment down below about your sunglasses & unfortunately I agree with him. You need a pair of Ray-Ban Thriftmasters, black & chrome or a pair of Hobie wraparounds with blue mirror lens :-) Thumbs up from Ohio :-)

[@DavidBoy333]

I love the 4E hybrid ST that i own, worth every single dollar i paid for it. Here in Sweden it ended up around 125K USD after options and discount. Options that i choose: Volcano Grey Metallic, 21inch wheels, Full leather pack, Sport design pack, Sport exhaust system and some other small stuff like heated seats etc. Air suspension and sport chrono pack are both standard on the hybrid model since it needs to balance the weight of the battery in the boot and for choosing the different electric modes. Thats why I chose the 4E over 4 and 4S. I think 4E is actually the sweet spot considering you get a great amount of torque from the battery and a happy revving twin turbo V6 from the 4S. It does add weight to the car but don't think its that noticeable with air suspension on regular driving unless you do take it to the canyons and track frequently. Its also 25-30K cheaper than the GTS so I think it'll be better for people that lease this car when taking into account the resale value which wont be that much of a difference i believe compare to the GTS in around 3-4 years time.

[@cbatiau2528]

not to mention that you get way more options and horsepower and torque -- plus way more fun with the all-electric drive mode -- for way less money than the 4S version, and here in the US, the 4E-Hybrid is also cheaper than the ICE-only V6 Pan4 because of the tax credits and state rebates. I will never buy another Porsche that is not a plug-in; they are superb. I'm waiting for the Taycan 4S Cross Turismo and/or the Macan BEV. Other "pro" car reviewers have also said that they think that the Pan4 E-Hybrid is the "sweet spot" in the entire Panamera line-up.

[@DavidBoy333]

cba tiau yeah I had to wait 8 months for mine to be delivered. I guess they just wanted to sell a few other models since everyone was really into the 4E when it launched

[@Jdnicks00]

Hi Nick. It’s nice to have your reviews about Porsche. I am looking for a Porsche, but not sure which one is better, 2017 CPO 911 C4, 2020 Panamera 4S, and 2020 Cayenne S coupe. Need your help. Thanks

[@NickMurray]

Well those are all completely different cars for different uses. You need to decide if you want a sports car, luxury tourer, or SUV?

[@cobhamlondon]

Come to Croatia this summer Nick!

[@93455Driver]

Used Panameras seem a great bargain, but noted the comment about handling, will need to read up. The positioning of the night vision screen does not seem very good, better in a HUD type screen (if that is technically possible).

[@Carpetone]

Nick Will you be reviewing the Taycan Turbo S?

[@986C]

It will be on the CarMax lot for $45k in a few years.

[@jalloor]

Hey Nick, the base 2020 Carreras (non s) are now available can you do a review on one please? Also adding a draggy for 0 to 60 times and possibly quarter mile times would be awesome. Great review by the way.

[@stephenoverstreet9898]

So Nick, would you rather have something like this (a well-equipped Panamera GTS), a Panamera Turbo, or a Taycan Turbo?

[@designgauge]

Great review. But "heat seating" instead of "Seat heating" 23 mins in is pretty funny - heard this a few times on this channel . So many people slip up and say this when talking about their cars, including me on occasion! ;-)

[@jefffenn5016]

Next video... I'm trading my Macan S for a new Panamera Gts.... Great review Nick! Personally I've always been a fan of most GTS models! This is a beautiful example!

[@johnsvensson6540]

What is “ear suspension”?

[@keithliggins8545]

Excellent review. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

[@andrewsmactips]

That must be one really amazing USB socket for four hundred plus dollars.

[@martengravenstein6241]

It cooks pancakes

[@stephenlane9127]

Nice Nick. I like the Albert touches! See you in NZ soon buddy

[@bbpleg]

Nick why did you pick a Macan and not a Panamera? What’s the advantage of being high up in an suv? Don’t you just get worse fuel consumption and handling compared to a similarly sized sedan/hatch?

[@NickMurray]

The Panamera is considerably more expensive and so LONG, I don't need a long car, the Macan is a pretty sweet size and the SUV part as actually come in handy for some parking in odd spot when walking the dogs.

[@Rolixinho]

65%+ of all us porsche sales are cayenne and macan, the furthest thing away from the Porsche spirit...

[@nickzarnetske9994]

They're what kept the spirit alive, there wouldn't be a Porsche today if it wasn't for those models...

[@cbatiau2528]

That's a topic for big debate. Many of us only came to Porsche for the 4-door vehicles and would never buy a 2-door "anything". I'm on my third Porsche now, one of them being a Macan, I can say that the Macan is superbly built and well-handling, unlike any other SUV under $200k. To me, a 2-door sports car is a waste of money -- too impractical and too unsafe (due to its tiny-ness).

[@jeromelangenderfer8853]

Very nice car love the monochromatic look. Thanks Nick

[@johnfriedman6144]

Hey Nick! Do you have your T Shirts in size small? You got non-horizontally challenged fans as well.

[@clownworld-honk410]

Great review. 2 mins 30... "§180 000; it's not for everybody" ... no shit, Sherlock! It's not for 99.9 % of everybody! 🤣😕

[@sromani1986]

we live in a SUV, Crossover and Pick UP truck world. imagine Porsche making a luxurious performance off road pick up truck! lolol

[@FishFind3000]

jeepcodiesel86 200k pickup nobody would use. I bet that you could paint to sample your bedliner for 10k

[@sromani1986]

@@FishFind3000 i know, i was just kidding.

[@morgang7877]

How do you set the pdls+ lights to European spec so they're not crippled - is there a hidden setting for region? (Asking for a friend...😄 )

[@dean5930]

I want to see the electric 4 door Porsche that they have now.....seen one in Hartford and I couldn't take my eyes off of it

[@ERVDSR]

You also get the alcentara headliner

[@situation_zero]

Nick, can you review an AUDI S7?

[@llad]

I had to make a water closet break .. Did they get the leather wrapped air con vents? 😏

[@davesolomon2503]

Nick, great review of this GTS. I don't think you mentioned rear axle steering as an option on it. I am in the market for a GTS and want this. Is it worth it for a car as big as a Panamera? Thanks.

[@NickMurray]

I do not think so but it will improve your U turn radius

[@cbatiau2528]

check out discussions at Rennlist, where you'll find people that think rear-axle steering is great on the Panamera, and those who say that the effect is minimal and not worth the money... I have owned two Panameras without it, and I have never had any difficulty parallel-parking it (the main reason cited for rear-axle steering).

[@gonschor7dleven]

Is it just me or is Porsche pricing getting more insane than usual? I have a 2017 Macan S, and the same configuration on the refreshed Macan is $5,000 more. 911 pricing is crazy too, with the base easily being $120k with a modest build.

[@CW-nt1sd]

Nick could you give us a sample of the cars stereo

[@NickMurray]

No, because it will sound like your headphones or whatever the device you are listening on.

[@michaelthompson9026]

The Aston Martin from Stuttgart in Saxony,..., Binomial nomenclature

[@adamchu1315]

I remember when I was buying my Panamera, my shock was apparent when a 120k car went up to 160k with all the stuff I added to it

[@373axle]

Nick I miss your older videos where you were actually having fun in cars like an M4 or a 911.

[@dodgethehell]

no PDCC with PTV plus?

[@andersjensen1499]

Cool to see how much one can upgrade the interior if money is no option

[@nickzarnetske9994]

Those seats look amazing!

[@absolut2013]

They've got "heat seating" ;-)

[@colinmaynard2879]

Can’t you get the vents in leather ☹️

[@truthseeker8483]

Yes 11K only....

[@christmasisawesome9348]

Hey Nick. This isnt related to panamera but Im curious. Why did you get the 991.2 4s instead of GTS, turbo, gt3?

[@NickMurray]

Well, I did not like the GTS, it did not provide any value in my eye, the Turbo and TTS are fast but easily the most boring to drive 911 models and the GT models are amazing weekend blast cars but just too hard to live with day to day. The S and the 4S also depreciate slower than the other models, even the GT3

[@christmasisawesome9348]

@@NickMurray I see. Thanks for your quick response. I guess if you were to get a dedicated Porsche weekend car then you would get the GT3 huh?