The End of Wagner Group

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10 ай бұрын

Well, Prigozhin has met his end. Putin has finally decided to take the gloves off and remove his enemies publicly and without scruples. He also got Utkin as well which is the first piece of legitimate Denazification he's done, about time if I'm honest.
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@AnimarchyHistory
@AnimarchyHistory 10 ай бұрын
Ok. So I’m gonna pin this comment to explain why I’m so sure this was a shoot down via missile. Now to be clear it could be an Air to Air or Surface to Air missile, but given we haven’t seen any VKS air activity near Moscow my bet is still firmly on a SAM. So, why don’t I think it’s a bomb? First, the cabin is intact. When you see the aircraft falling the fuselage is completely intact, there is no breakup of the aircraft nor do we see any gaping holes. If the bomb was mounted in the cabin or in the baggage hold at the aft of the airframe. We would see signs of explosive decompression, however we don’t see any. The aircraft fuselage along with the cabin remained pressurised and in one piece until impact. Second. The damage to the vertical stabiliser. If you look at the tail of the aircraft, it was sheared almost completely off like someone went at it with an axe. There would be no way to mount a bomb on that flight surface without anyone noticing it, either visually or the pilot noticing an irregularity with the flight controls. Furthermore the damage to the vertical stabiliser shows evidence of shearing and fragmentation damage as shown in the video. Third. The fragmentation damage, in several photos of the wreck you see clear signs of shrapnel holes in the aircraft. Now this can happen in an explosive decompression or in a crash. If it wasn’t for the fact that the splaying of the metal was on the interior surface. Ergo the shrapnel came from outside. If the bomb was in the baggage hold it would have blown the entire rear of the aircraft off. If not split it in half. Again. I’m 90% sure on this. But good luck proving it.
@bluntslt8023
@bluntslt8023 10 ай бұрын
Hmm let me read this first!! Interesting it does make sense i do believe it was shot down too just because of how high profile pregozin was
@guywholikesplanes
@guywholikesplanes 10 ай бұрын
Only other possibility worth considering would be an uncontained engine failure. Those CAN send shrapnel outward, but from my limited experience that's usually blades from the engine, and those would leave a much larger hole. The reported lack of maintenance could cause such a failure, but the detachment of aircraft surfaces doesn't track with this, especially the entire wing. From the video where we can see the plane flat spinning to the ground, missing a wing, we can rule out in-flight breakup, since those, in my experience, happen during a nose dive. The video doesn't really match with any accident I've ever read/seen about. And, since the erj145 seems to have hydraulic fuses, the white fluid mist around the aircraft is most probably fuel.
@braydoxastora5584
@braydoxastora5584 10 ай бұрын
Fuck, that opening lol
@nicolasrose3064
@nicolasrose3064 10 ай бұрын
Russians are a people who are completely accustomed to being told how to think about, what they are told to think, it has been reinforced in their psyche through brutalism, to our Western sensibilities Putin's methods are deplorable, for a Russian it is representative of the ideals instilled in the national mindset. Russians must be the only people on the Planet that think being treated like shit is some kind of badge of honour, the more bullshit they buy into, the more they are convinced that everything is, as it should be.
@gchampi2
@gchampi2 10 ай бұрын
@@guywholikesplanes The effect of losing the horizontal stabilizer would be an immediate & rapid uncontrolled nose-up maneuver, putting the aircraft at nearly 90 degrees to the airflow. The aerodynamic loading from this would massively overload the wing spar, causing the loss of the wing & opening the fuel system to atmosphere. Gravity does the rest. As for the bomb-on-board theory, that doesn't fit the evidence. If a bomb was in the pressure cabin, it would've caused a comprehensive disintegration of the airframe, with parts of the plane spread over a wide area (see the Lockerbie bombing for reference). If there was a bomb placed somewhere within the tail (outside the pressure cabin), the engines would've been removed from the airframe along with the vertical stabilizer, and there would most likely have been a fuel fire visible from the tail of the falling craft. As there was no fire until impact, and the engines were visible in the wreckage footage, that pretty much rules out any bomb on board. Given all that, a missile strike is the only plausible conclusion. As there were no reports of military jets in the area, a SAM strike is the most likely cause.
@just_a_turtle_chad
@just_a_turtle_chad 10 ай бұрын
Like a true warrior. He didn't die in the battlefield. He died in a private jet drinking champagne.
@rohesilmnelohe
@rohesilmnelohe 10 ай бұрын
dude... you're everywhere with this comment
@notaspy1227
@notaspy1227 10 ай бұрын
Well attempting, planes aren't very stable when they lose a wing.
@RenegadeSound
@RenegadeSound 10 ай бұрын
You can give me an 'economy' seat any time
@martinlisitsata
@martinlisitsata 10 ай бұрын
hey if you're going down might as well light up and take one with ice for the road
@sawyerawr5783
@sawyerawr5783 10 ай бұрын
"CinC West Died a soldier's death. His last act was to seize a machine gun and fire on the hostile aircraft attacking him." Meanwhile, there's Perogie the Bald...
@robwalsh9843
@robwalsh9843 10 ай бұрын
I still can't believe this whole thing is actually happening in our time. It's like a Tom Clancy book at this point.
@inquisitionagent9052
@inquisitionagent9052 10 ай бұрын
Its scary how often that man's predictions have come true in modern times
@MaxwellAerialPhotography
@MaxwellAerialPhotography 10 ай бұрын
On the other hand, the truth is stranger than fiction, as Mr. Clancy discussed on a number of occasions.
@AnimarchyHistory
@AnimarchyHistory 10 ай бұрын
Dude. Wagner launched the coup. And one of the men facing them down was Lieutenant General Aleksayev. I had a giggle at that. I love Red Storm Rising.
@craig.a.glesner
@craig.a.glesner 10 ай бұрын
@@AnimarchyHistoryyeah RED STORM RISING led to me buying HARPOON back in the late 80s, need to read it again. Been a decade or so. And have you seen the DCS videos of the battle chapters?
@WoobooRidesAgain
@WoobooRidesAgain 10 ай бұрын
@@inquisitionagent9052 To be honest, I don't think even Clancy could have predicted this. If this were a Clancy book, Ukraine would have been steamrolled, and Western Europe would have been facing a Russian military that gets annihilated by the latest and greatest of high tech American firepower, saving the day after some Rommel myth Russian commander, who stands out from the nefarious and incompetent leadership either dies or betrays the bad guys. The real Russia is barely holding on to a fifth of a nation that it should by all rights totally eclipse militarily, losing to a force utilizing weapons and technology that at its latest is of the PS3 era, whose leadership is back to front incompetent and whose best soldiers are mostly contained in a group of hired thugs who somehow botched the biggest armored push to Moscow since Barbarossa, led by a man who is such a genius he thought he'd be okay with the notoriously defenestration-prone Putin after trying to pull that stunt because he was about to get fired. If Clancy wrote this plot, everyone would think he lost his mind.
@ToaArcan
@ToaArcan 10 ай бұрын
His last mistake was getting in the one vehicle that Russian air defences can target: A civilian jet with its transponder turned on.
@zoli11
@zoli11 10 ай бұрын
As if Russia couldn't easily track and target a plane with transponders off.
@MalfosRanger
@MalfosRanger 10 ай бұрын
​@@zoli11This is pointing out that the Soviet Union and Russian Federation have infamously shot down civilian jets on two occasions in addition to this incident.
@navb0tactual
@navb0tactual 10 ай бұрын
@@MalfosRanger There's probably more but KAL007 and MH17 come to mind immediately
@majorbombas
@majorbombas 10 ай бұрын
@@MalfosRanger Wonder if anything would be different if Prigozhin wouldn't take Private jet, but instead used Russian airlines. Probably plane would also fell the same way, just with extra 300 russians alongside Prigozhin.
@nicetechtips2629
@nicetechtips2629 10 ай бұрын
Maybe a train would have been better, Moscow to St Petersburg has HSR, so even better.
@featgorgon3985
@featgorgon3985 10 ай бұрын
It’s sad, not Yegevny falling from the sky, but the loss of this unique and rare aircraft, the company that produced it no longer produces it and there aren’t many left in the world
@notaspy1227
@notaspy1227 10 ай бұрын
Don't forget the loss of local biodiversity at the site of the crash.
@sofielee4122
@sofielee4122 10 ай бұрын
they dont even make *parts* for them, it genuinely will not surprise me to find parts scavenged off that airframe making their way to other 135s and 145s
@1992AC
@1992AC 10 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t call 1,231 aircraft that rare.
@alpacaofthemountain8760
@alpacaofthemountain8760 10 ай бұрын
true
@johnnymematik8649
@johnnymematik8649 10 ай бұрын
That's what she said. (Mother Russia)
@danielbeshers1689
@danielbeshers1689 10 ай бұрын
Based on absolutely no evidence I'm going to assert the claim that this was an air-to-air kill by a Su-57 because it's the only opportunity the Ballerina will ever get.
@AnimarchyHistory
@AnimarchyHistory 10 ай бұрын
Shit, better change my script.
@kingdomofvinland8827
@kingdomofvinland8827 10 ай бұрын
This is my head cannon now
@appa609
@appa609 10 ай бұрын
Marginally better than the balloon
@julianbrelsford
@julianbrelsford 10 ай бұрын
@appa709 I can just see F22 yelling at everyone in jealousy. "He got to blow up traitors in a business jet, when's my f*****g turn?!
@eblingus
@eblingus 10 ай бұрын
Agree that air launched missile seems more plausible. SAM would leave an obvious smoke trail from the launcher that any bystander could film and upload in real time. Both sides have used such video to target the other side’s SAM Sites.
@notaspy1227
@notaspy1227 10 ай бұрын
Lol I can totally see Prigozhin yelling “Shogui” before death.
@julianbrelsford
@julianbrelsford 10 ай бұрын
Shoigu, Gerasimov, where's the fucking ammunition?!?! Shoigu and Gerasimov:
@jonathonrodriguezthomas6457
@jonathonrodriguezthomas6457 10 ай бұрын
The fact I can hear him shouting that like some anime villain is truly comedic
@Dany94256
@Dany94256 10 ай бұрын
SHOIGUUUUU! GHJERASIMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAV!
@Mr.Maverick.Hunter
@Mr.Maverick.Hunter 10 ай бұрын
@@julianbrelsford "HERE TAKE IT, TAKE IT!" -shoigu
@marocat4749
@marocat4749 10 ай бұрын
That is what happened. It has to be. Or its the thing that should be true because its fun.
@josephhelgersonjoseph6115
@josephhelgersonjoseph6115 10 ай бұрын
At least Prigo finally got the ammo he requested. Albeit delivered directly to his forehead.
@rtasvadam1776
@rtasvadam1776 10 ай бұрын
Be careful what you wish for, because you just might get it eh?
@dx-ek4vr
@dx-ek4vr 10 ай бұрын
Warhead: applied directly to the Forehead!
@juno1915
@juno1915 10 ай бұрын
It was a high speed delivery
@RaedanWulfe
@RaedanWulfe 10 ай бұрын
Really, no one? Fine... I'll do it - ey, rather late than never.
@future62
@future62 10 ай бұрын
I remember saying exactly this when he made that request. "Be sure to confirm delivery method"
@wargriffin5
@wargriffin5 10 ай бұрын
I'm still baffled at the idea that the people who exercised absolute radio silence during the march on Moscow are the same people who scheduled their entire high-command to be in one place at one time on a very much NOT missile-proof aircraft. *BRUH* 🤣
@aspiealex9710
@aspiealex9710 10 ай бұрын
Usually the Russians try to do these assassinations pretty secretly to try and make it look like an accident or suicide, don't think they'd expect to have a full on missile shot at them
@wargriffin5
@wargriffin5 10 ай бұрын
@knobjockey76 As far as the coup goes, the theories I've heard about why the coup was halted usually center around Wagner's failure to secure the families of high-ranking commanders prior to the operation itself; possibly including Prigozhin's own wife and kids.
@abrandenburg10
@abrandenburg10 10 ай бұрын
​@knobjockey76no its really not that to believe at all that he was that stupid
@messagedeleted1922
@messagedeleted1922 10 ай бұрын
​@knobjockey76they are incomplete don't then fill tge incompleteness with unlikely theorizing. Likely Putin orchestrated a situation where they ended up in the plane together.
@messagedeleted1922
@messagedeleted1922 10 ай бұрын
Or they were being sneaky and this was the one time they were together and Putins surveillance on them gave the info to Putin and he acted on it.
@Silver.799
@Silver.799 10 ай бұрын
Well instead of the “prigozhin heresy” now we have to settle with the “Wagner Crusades”
@deinemudda6617
@deinemudda6617 10 ай бұрын
i swear warhammer lore gets more non-credible by the second
@jackthefoxy3788
@jackthefoxy3788 10 ай бұрын
Everywhere I go, there’s a War Hamer reference. We need a Warshovel lore
@RedCharLang
@RedCharLang 10 ай бұрын
If by "Wagner Crusades" you mean Wagner fighting Putin then I am all down for it!
@graceliu8839
@graceliu8839 10 ай бұрын
We did, it was just 2 months long. Rn, the Russian mercenary companies are divided along the lines of being loyal to the Russian MoD or not. Now there are 2 other mercenary groups that have lost their oligarch via the Kremlin abandoning them. Redut (Gazprom PMC), Patriot (Shoigu as their oligarch), and there’s even Tsar’s Wolves among loyalists. Now
@jonathanm3446
@jonathanm3446 10 ай бұрын
Once again, proving warhammer lore can splice seemlessly into almost anything in our reality. :)
@katn1p948
@katn1p948 10 ай бұрын
If you think about it Priggy really loves Ukraine. I mean he blew himself as a firework display for Ukraines independence day.
@craig.a.glesner
@craig.a.glesner 10 ай бұрын
Well he did spend a lot of time there and you do pick up on the local culture. And his dedication to the art is impressive.
@jcstides
@jcstides 10 ай бұрын
This war is such an insanely gay larp it’s always just two teenagers arguing over which slav is the better slav and why the other slav is le pig you guys need a real hobby or something lmfao
@john-hy3gb
@john-hy3gb 9 ай бұрын
@@jcstides agreed but before i listen to you Which slav better?
@JackDelta
@JackDelta 10 ай бұрын
i was joking with my dad about Prigozhin about how i surprised that a Russian missile hit anything, and the hits me with "who said they fired only one'?"
@ethanor
@ethanor 10 ай бұрын
Your dad knows a lot about Russian tactics, it seems
@llama209
@llama209 10 ай бұрын
😂😂
@ebnertra0004
@ebnertra0004 10 ай бұрын
It only worked because it was a civilian aircraft. Had it been military, it would have missed and landed on a village or something
@benchrant1782
@benchrant1782 10 ай бұрын
Either on an Ukrainian orphanage or a Polish field
@nihluxler1890
@nihluxler1890 10 ай бұрын
Firing two interceptors for one target is common practice for pretty much every military. It’s the case for the US as well.
@stuffy2757
@stuffy2757 10 ай бұрын
its so sad that prigozhins plane fell out of a window such a sad accident
@GeoStreber
@GeoStreber 10 ай бұрын
Still smoother than the average Ryanair landing.
@AtholAnderson
@AtholAnderson 10 ай бұрын
Hey that's not entirely fair at least 1 in 10 Ryanair landing are able to reuse the aircraft.
@schwingedeshaehers
@schwingedeshaehers 10 ай бұрын
​@@AtholAndersonbut only because at least 9 / 10 are reusable before landing. I think that one wasn't reusable before landing
@Poctyk
@Poctyk 10 ай бұрын
Now, if you wonder what was going through Prigozhin's head in his last moments. Shrapnel. It was shrapnel
@AtholAnderson
@AtholAnderson 10 ай бұрын
That's terrible...I love it.
@loneprimate
@loneprimate 10 ай бұрын
There's actually an old joke that goes "What's the last thing that goes through a bug's head when it hits your windshield? Its a**hole." There's a very good chance that applies in this case too. :)
@kikidevine694
@kikidevine694 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@craig.a.glesner
@craig.a.glesner 10 ай бұрын
Damnit, I’m about as old as that joke…still got me and still funny as hell. The “It was shrapnel.” sells it.
@SocialAnarchist
@SocialAnarchist 4 ай бұрын
Well, with the speed of the impact, it was probably his ass
@alexivankov1874
@alexivankov1874 10 ай бұрын
As a Russian I can say that Prigozhin really gave us a lot of memes, and they were funny.
@nekomancer4641
@nekomancer4641 10 ай бұрын
Shoigu, Gerasimov!
@alexivankov1874
@alexivankov1874 10 ай бұрын
@@nekomancer4641 *gde boepripasi?*
@sockosophie3132
@sockosophie3132 10 ай бұрын
Well i hope you will have to laugh much more in the next time, but thats depending of "you" getting rid of this self-shitting gramps high in botox in your government :P
@newnamesameperson397
@newnamesameperson397 10 ай бұрын
I will miss the pictures of priggy wojacking at Graves. He was probably pointing at the missile as it approached
@MeeesterBond17
@MeeesterBond17 10 ай бұрын
On the positive side, there are now many more Prigozhin memes. And there will always be another meme supplier just around the corner. 🙂
@remingtonarcher1335
@remingtonarcher1335 10 ай бұрын
He was too caught up in asking for th ammunition, that h eventually received the ammunition.
@ebnertra0004
@ebnertra0004 10 ай бұрын
He was so preoccupied with whether he _could_ demand the ammo, that he never stopped to ask whether he _should_
@troystaunton254
@troystaunton254 10 ай бұрын
The best part of this is. They either admit they did it or admit Ukraine is now contesting the air in Russia. So either “ I’m a murderer” or “I’m losing.”
@geronimo5537
@geronimo5537 10 ай бұрын
The fact the accident was caught on video says enough about how this was preplanned. You know how rare of a video it is to see a plane falling from the sky that someone random just happened to be recording? It doesnt happen. Most of the videos are caught from security cameras filming in the same direction.
@MrPrototype150
@MrPrototype150 10 ай бұрын
@@geronimo5537 Do you really think that it's that hard to whip out a phone and start recording?
@santiagogarza8121
@santiagogarza8121 10 ай бұрын
​@MrPrototype150 you'd have very little time, plus it's on the countryside, not eaay to detect
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 9 ай бұрын
With russian propaganda they always put up multiple conflicting claims to muddle the truth. Remember Mh17?
@KoffinKat
@KoffinKat 9 ай бұрын
They'll just say it was an accident. Plane crashes do happen and your average russian person won't doubt the veracity of that claim.
@destruct0503
@destruct0503 10 ай бұрын
I am really sad that i dont get to use my favorite word in the English language when explaining to people what happened, "defenestration"
@salvadorcorona-virus7854
@salvadorcorona-virus7854 10 ай бұрын
Cleaver, brother from the empire of Rome
@TomFynn
@TomFynn 10 ай бұрын
"deplanisation"
@grrjr215
@grrjr215 10 ай бұрын
Greatest word in the English dictionary
@destruct0503
@destruct0503 10 ай бұрын
@@TomFynn thats not a real word tho....
@muninrob
@muninrob 10 ай бұрын
@@destruct0503 And defenestration is when you are thrown from a window, not when your plane is shot down.....
@toolazyforthis3164
@toolazyforthis3164 10 ай бұрын
You will be missed Pringles you always made the best memes
@Werrf1
@Werrf1 10 ай бұрын
He will be missed. Just not by the Russian Air Defence Forces.
@loneprimate
@loneprimate 10 ай бұрын
He probably made a huge meme in his pants on the way down.
@M-I
@M-I 10 ай бұрын
Only thing I hope that Priggo realized what was happening before his death
@appa609
@appa609 10 ай бұрын
the plane fell for a while
@M-I
@M-I 10 ай бұрын
@@appa609 It did, but the explosion might have killed people in the plane instantly
@troystaunton254
@troystaunton254 10 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t be surprised if he got an email telling him once they had their comms jammed.
@Jontadon
@Jontadon 10 ай бұрын
@@appa609 big explosion and a free fall in a spinning plane, most will get unconscious very quickly
@fuzzyhair321
@fuzzyhair321 10 ай бұрын
Anyone just feel bad for the pilots and staff who had nothing to do with this
@sockosophie3132
@sockosophie3132 10 ай бұрын
Do you really think they didn´t know what piece of poo they work for?
@zephyr8072
@zephyr8072 10 ай бұрын
Not the first innocents killed in Putin’s vulgar little power struggle, won’t be the last.
@Grimdarkog
@Grimdarkog 10 ай бұрын
Better choose carefully who you associate with
@JayFLee1
@JayFLee1 10 ай бұрын
If you're flying the Wagner high command, 99.9% chance you're Wagner too.
@Frommerman
@Frommerman 10 ай бұрын
They took a job with fascist mass murderers. They can't complain when they get put against the wall with their bosses.
@benayakohler9383
@benayakohler9383 10 ай бұрын
In Germany theres this joke that “prigozhings jet fell out the window”
@jorenvanderark3567
@jorenvanderark3567 10 ай бұрын
Deutscher Humor, etwas besseres gibt es nicht.
@nickklavdianos5136
@nickklavdianos5136 3 ай бұрын
Prigozhin fell out his jet's window
@fredwood1490
@fredwood1490 10 ай бұрын
I CANNOT believe they would be so stupid as to ALL be on the same plane at the same time. Nobody will check for drugs or even if they were alive when they boarded that plane, but that's the only way they would do such a foolish thing. My condolences to the families of the flight crew.
@stephaniegabelmann8094
@stephaniegabelmann8094 10 ай бұрын
EXACTLY
@ardantop132na6
@ardantop132na6 10 ай бұрын
And the plane...
@Anonymous______________
@Anonymous______________ 10 ай бұрын
Treat who you keep. Else, you may one day end up taking a forever sleep.
@EnclaveEmily
@EnclaveEmily 9 ай бұрын
They were probably rounded up and forced on the plane at gunpoint
@nickklavdianos5136
@nickklavdianos5136 3 ай бұрын
I just imagine it in my head that they really didn't plan to be on the same plane, but ended up there, so after greeting and taking off, they're like: 'Wait, why are we all here?' followed by the explosion.
@Duke_of_Lorraine
@Duke_of_Lorraine 10 ай бұрын
Putin doing his "condolences" video reminds me of the pig Snowball doing the same in Animal Farm (the cartoon), after having sold the injured horse to be slaughtered.
@TomFynn
@TomFynn 10 ай бұрын
"And they looked from Priggo to men and from men to Priggo..."
@icook1723
@icook1723 10 ай бұрын
I think you meant Nepoleon.
@Duke_of_Lorraine
@Duke_of_Lorraine 10 ай бұрын
@@icook1723 Napoleon sold the horse but it was his underling that did the propaganda speech afterwards. Edit : I was wrong too, Snowball is the equivalent to Trotsky and had been murdered by dogs long before that scene. I meant Squealer, he's the equivalent to Molotov/Beria/any other of Stalin's underlings. The cartoon can be found on youtube, the scene is a bit after the hour mark.
@icook1723
@icook1723 10 ай бұрын
​@@Duke_of_Lorraineright you are
@icook1723
@icook1723 10 ай бұрын
​@@Duke_of_Lorrainei also like the live action 1999 movie, which is on prime. It is one of my daughters (10) favorite movies.
@lordofchaosinc.261
@lordofchaosinc.261 10 ай бұрын
"He was a man with a difficult fate. And he made serious mistakes in life." You can't make this shit up. 🤣 Like dude where did that random rocket come from. We'll remember that heartfelt speech when your time's up, Vladimir.
@craig.a.glesner
@craig.a.glesner 10 ай бұрын
I swear when Putin was all “sincere condolences” I heard the translation as “I’m sorry your husbands were such dipshits.” :)
@loganthousandsonssorcerer3206
@loganthousandsonssorcerer3206 10 ай бұрын
He finally got his ammo, with Xpress same day shipping directly to his private jet
@edk487
@edk487 10 ай бұрын
Imagine how competent the Russian military would be if Shoigu put the same amount of energy he puts into political scheming into actually running the military.
@Arctic_Revolution
@Arctic_Revolution 10 ай бұрын
@@Georgesspierre Let me just pour myself a glass of wine and tell you about a little story called the Soviet-Afghan War.
@thekiller7994
@thekiller7994 10 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@Arctic_Revolutionand gotta pour another glass of wine and tell him a little story called the First Chechen War
@Kilogramskk
@Kilogramskk 10 ай бұрын
@@GeorgesspierreIt would be so much better if you went to frontline and died for pootler, rather than claiming 20 robles for every comment that isn't working to пытаться промивать мозги. ruZZkij vojennij hujablj, pashol nahuj maukas bērni. Slava Ukrainai 🇺🇦🇱🇻❤️
@audittlivereaction1964
@audittlivereaction1964 10 ай бұрын
@@Georgesspierre the incompetence of one army doesn't nullify that of another, this can go both ways in this case with Russia and the U.S. army (the latter of which you brought up unprompted and nobody was talking about in the first place)
@warhawk9566
@warhawk9566 10 ай бұрын
@@Georgesspierre The US army hasn't lost a peer to peer conflict in over 100 years. Vietnam and Afghanistan were both insurgency conflicts which are famously difficult for organized armies, especially large ones, to deal with. And in both cases, the opponent had to lie underground for a decade or more and wait for the US army to give up. Russia on the other hand is currently losing a peer to peer conflict against a country it outnumbers badly and is one of the poorest countries in europe. They haven't achieved naval superiority against a country that doesn't have a navy, they're going to war with tanks from the fucking 50's, and they can't even achieve air supremacy. Say what you will about the US military but at least on Navy ships more than 1 anti air system works. At least in the Gulf war, Iraq and Afghanistan air superemacy was achieved in a matter of hours. At least on their worst day the Army never had to Pull fucking Pershings out of storage cause they ran out of tanks
@DomyTheMad420
@DomyTheMad420 10 ай бұрын
"homie fell faster and further then the ruble which is a feat in and of itself" and suddenly i remembered why i subbed. fuckin' savage.
@superdevton1137
@superdevton1137 4 ай бұрын
Guess pringles finally got the ammo he was asking for
@mercenarygundam1487
@mercenarygundam1487 10 ай бұрын
That intro had me laughing. I think that if this was a live action series, that would be his final words.
@Markfr0mCanada
@Markfr0mCanada 10 ай бұрын
What was funny was that as I was flipping through news when I found out about this, news of Prigoshin's death was 2 hours old, while a 6 hour old article beside it was speculating as to why Putin was still allowing him to live. Boy, if any article ever came out on the wrong day...
@grunge9264
@grunge9264 10 ай бұрын
Can we have a few seconds of silence for the people who lost their lives and may had a soul? Aleksei Leshvin, Rustam Karimov, Kristina Paspopova
@wolfbyte3171
@wolfbyte3171 10 ай бұрын
They were just doing their job. Kind of how I feel about the guys in the IL-22 Pringles shot down during his march to Moscow. Granted, they were Russian soldiers, but going down in a plane like that with no chance of survival... brutal.
@peka2478
@peka2478 10 ай бұрын
everyone has a soul. But lets not kid ourselves that the people so close to Prigozhin, so integral to his safety, were just innocent by-standers...
@loneprimate
@loneprimate 10 ай бұрын
Okay, I'm just going to say it. If, after June, if I saw Prigozhin on the same side of the street with me, I'd turn down another street. If I saw him get on the bus I was on, I'd be off at the next stop and running. If he got on the plane I was sitting in, I'd grab my gear and GTOOD. Anybody with an IQ over 80 and a mental age over seven should have known better. Seriously. I'd rather have had Typhoid Mary cooking hot dogs for me than that walking dead man.
@nielsmichiels1939
@nielsmichiels1939 10 ай бұрын
They knew who they were working for.
@ratagris21
@ratagris21 10 ай бұрын
​@@wolfbyte3171payback is a B!
@theconqueringram5295
@theconqueringram5295 10 ай бұрын
I find it hilarious that everyone is sad about the incident, not because the deaths of Wagner alumni, but because we lost a perfectly good aircraft! Truly, that Embraer Legacy Jet was worth more than the lives Prigozhin, Utkin, Chekalov and the other four passengers. Killing those seven was probably the greatest contribution Putler gave humanity. However, we still lost three innocent people: the pilot, co-pilot and flight attendant.
@Anonymous______________
@Anonymous______________ 10 ай бұрын
Treat who you keep. Else, you may one day end up taking a forever sleep.
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 9 ай бұрын
We found pilot's society media, he celebrated hits in Ukraine. Trust me, innocents don't get the privilege of flying russian VIPs.
@ToreDL87
@ToreDL87 9 ай бұрын
@@KasumiRINA God riddance to him then, but what about co-pilot and flight attendant?
@crissagram
@crissagram 10 ай бұрын
SHOGUI!!!!!!!! WHERE'S MY LEFT WING!!!!!!!
@tacotvgaming6639
@tacotvgaming6639 10 ай бұрын
Yep In my head those are his final words
@shadow1249
@shadow1249 10 ай бұрын
shoigu
@mikedrop4421
@mikedrop4421 10 ай бұрын
Oh man, I've been waiting for you to chime in. Thanks Pac Edit: I've gotta start giving Putin more credit for his acting skills. That man killed a plane full of LITTERAL N*zis and then looked dead at the Russian people and claimed that it was a tragedy losing these men who did so much to help Russia by fighting neo-n*zis in Ukraine. He really is a G. 😂
@kenhammscousin4716
@kenhammscousin4716 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's so ridiculous. Russia is full of bros, it's like 4chan the nation.
@kurtru5selcrowe607
@kurtru5selcrowe607 10 ай бұрын
The “See you space Cossack” at the end killed me
@goldenguardian8753
@goldenguardian8753 10 ай бұрын
Damn, the way our society can meme anything to death is beautiful. Slava Ukraine
@stevenchoza6391
@stevenchoza6391 10 ай бұрын
And right when Ukraine has broken through the first line of defense in the south and is reaching the second line. And now their best fighting force is basically kneecapped.
@heboric6136
@heboric6136 10 ай бұрын
​@@stevenchoza6391 "best"
@GolemRising
@GolemRising 10 ай бұрын
@@heboric6136 Hey, to be the best you only need to be better than everyone else in the category. And the category is....Russian...military assets. Not exactly a lot of competition!
@julianbrelsford
@julianbrelsford 10 ай бұрын
@stevenchoza Wagner was never gonna be the best Russian fighting force after they aborted their mutiny. Russia confiscated their heavy weapons, and cut funding for new weapons and ammo, and the mutual distrust between Wagner and Russian MOD was increased from already high levels.
@stevenchoza6391
@stevenchoza6391 10 ай бұрын
@@julianbrelsford I meant in terms of effectiveness. Granted, their tactics were quite blunt and brutal, but they had the most success since Ukraine’s fall counteroffensives last year. I agree Russia kneecapped them already but this is just the final nail in the coffin that only further cripples Russia at the worst time during this Ukrainian offensive.
@MrMexicanarmy
@MrMexicanarmy 10 ай бұрын
The second I saw your tweet that you were working on this, i knew you would make him yell shoigu while the plane was falling :) Not all heroes wear capes
@ebnertra0004
@ebnertra0004 10 ай бұрын
I'm surprised he left Gerasimov out
@sofielee4122
@sofielee4122 10 ай бұрын
RT really said "Vaxxed?", absolutely incredible stuff
@isaiahkayode6526
@isaiahkayode6526 10 ай бұрын
Gotta get those Alt Right points.
@TheLampl1ghter
@TheLampl1ghter 10 ай бұрын
It's fascinating how literally everyone saw this coming except for them.
@moderndemon84
@moderndemon84 10 ай бұрын
Common sense doesn't exist in Russia.
@TheDennys21
@TheDennys21 9 ай бұрын
The only thing they saw was the missile speeding towards them.
@moderndemon84
@moderndemon84 9 ай бұрын
@@TheDennys21 😂
@Svarog.The.Bonker
@Svarog.The.Bonker 10 ай бұрын
The clip of Putin racking the bolt of a semiautomatic rifle to chamber a new round always makes me chuckle
@MeeesterBond17
@MeeesterBond17 10 ай бұрын
"You see, Ivan, if you are feeding the rifle boolet with hand, and it feeds itself boolet, you will be having the double fire rate."
@gooberius
@gooberius 10 ай бұрын
can someone link this?
@Svarog.The.Bonker
@Svarog.The.Bonker 10 ай бұрын
@@gooberius kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJjMgIiDnNiams0si=W9SqCq5zJyhmmx_H
@npc2153
@npc2153 10 ай бұрын
13:12 in video
@EinFelsbrocken
@EinFelsbrocken 10 ай бұрын
That clip should be used a lot more often 😂
@kaistasch8532
@kaistasch8532 10 ай бұрын
Schoiguuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
@tomaszkarwik6357
@tomaszkarwik6357 10 ай бұрын
Gerasimov
@Anon_1003
@Anon_1003 10 ай бұрын
Where's the fucking ammunition
@obamnaprismus
@obamnaprismus 10 ай бұрын
"SHOIGU, GERASIMOV, WHERE IS MY FUCKING AMMO?!" [Eventually, they did send ammunition to Prigozhin]
@mulder801
@mulder801 10 ай бұрын
Rip speedy boi Yegevny "where's my boolets shoigu" Prigozhin. What an interesting life he lead on, from prisoner, cook, to dropping dead from air.
@Norbrookc
@Norbrookc 10 ай бұрын
I feel so bad for the pilots of the plane.
@mrkeogh
@mrkeogh 10 ай бұрын
For all we know, they flew for RuAF and bombed civilians in Syria. Fuck those guys 🤷🏻‍♂️
@Anonymous______________
@Anonymous______________ 10 ай бұрын
Treat who you keep. Else, you may one day end up taking a forever sleep.
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 9 ай бұрын
Pilot was mocking Ukrainians when russia bombed us. He was literally asking for it.
@julianbrelsford
@julianbrelsford 10 ай бұрын
Putin looks incredibly uncomfortable while talking about the deaths of the Wagner leadership, but I also think he looks that way in all his recent speeches. Seems like he's under an incredible amount of stress and not handling it all that well
@creed2466
@creed2466 10 ай бұрын
Nah, he’s just incredibly constapated
@zephyr8072
@zephyr8072 10 ай бұрын
Of course his body doubles are stressed.
@marocat4749
@marocat4749 10 ай бұрын
He should be way mpre vague or uderlining allhispeche withthiny veiled threats if thats what he chose to,not sent mixed messages tohis own people, but eh, let him make mitakes. also he kinda should have asasinated progici fast if.
@thegrayyernaut
@thegrayyernaut 9 ай бұрын
@@marocat4749 Did you type all that in code form in fear of being read by the FSB or something?
@joseaca1010
@joseaca1010 10 ай бұрын
the last two things to go through Pringles head were: - "damn you shoiguuuu!" - shrapnel in that order
@Strettger
@Strettger 10 ай бұрын
Code Wagner : Pringles of the (failed) rebellion
@CoffeeSuccubus
@CoffeeSuccubus 10 ай бұрын
I just imagine when the plane got hit, that is EXACTLY what Prigozhin said in his final words. "SHOIIIIGUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!"
@kubaxwot4629
@kubaxwot4629 10 ай бұрын
The new episode of even rounder table is gonna be funny
@julianbrelsford
@julianbrelsford 10 ай бұрын
Videos just came out regarding a likely prison sentence for Trevor Jacob, the guy who said he "always" takes his parachute with him when flying on (civilian) aircraft. Maybe Prigozhin should have listened to Trevor Jacob
@NarfoOnTheNet
@NarfoOnTheNet 9 ай бұрын
The funniest thing: this is the most de-nazification Putin's done this entire war.
@newname4785
@newname4785 10 ай бұрын
Ani: "...death of all 10 souls on board." Ani, ani, hang on ani. 8 souls MAX.
@michaeledmunds7056
@michaeledmunds7056 10 ай бұрын
7 Wagner staff, three crew
@simonteesdale9752
@simonteesdale9752 10 ай бұрын
​@@michaeledmunds7056Yeah, but what are the odds that Utkin still had his soul?
@michaeledmunds7056
@michaeledmunds7056 10 ай бұрын
Prigo: "Where is the fucking ammo??" Putin: "It's being delivered to your plane as we speak, comrade."
@diapason89
@diapason89 10 ай бұрын
Hard to feel sorry for the guy responsible for so many atrocities, not least of which is wiping Bakhmut off the map.
@abrandenburg10
@abrandenburg10 10 ай бұрын
RIP to our best source of memes
@twentyninerooks
@twentyninerooks 10 ай бұрын
Am I the only one that loves the fact that he put The Hunt for Red October text sound effect in at the beginning? You know, that movie where Sean Connery breaks the neck of a KGB Political Officer named Putin? seriously, watch it again, it's a great movie.
@JustAnNPC69
@JustAnNPC69 10 ай бұрын
As he’s falling I bet he’s regretting not going all in with the rebellion 😂😂😂😂
@GreatGray8790
@GreatGray8790 10 ай бұрын
This whole Wagner affair should be a movie and or hell even an opera. The Death of Stalin meets Boris Gudonov meets Wallenstein. A dark comedy of course. A tenor in one Prigos disguises belting out SHOIGU! SHOIGU! on stage as part of the main song ...part of money raised going to Ukraine of course.
@EinFelsbrocken
@EinFelsbrocken 10 ай бұрын
So a... "Wagner Opera"? 🥁
@alanwestmoreland6152
@alanwestmoreland6152 10 ай бұрын
Utkin wanted so much to be like the Aryan brothers of old so much; now he's truly with them *in the dirt*
@Hi-uk1cu
@Hi-uk1cu 10 ай бұрын
He finally got his ammunition
@CyberData4
@CyberData4 10 ай бұрын
So long and thanks for all the memes!
@TheEDFLegacy
@TheEDFLegacy 10 ай бұрын
Never thought I'd be sad about the passing of a nazi, but here we are. Hopefully someone else will be able to organise the overthrow of Putin. Though, to be fair, Prigozhin taking over would have been disastrous long-term, even if it ended the war.
@justaguy723
@justaguy723 10 ай бұрын
Don't be. He died as he lived, greedy, shortsighted, and afraid.
@JasperKlijndijk
@JasperKlijndijk 10 ай бұрын
Sadly we lost 7 of the top 1000 war criminals in the world
@peka2478
@peka2478 10 ай бұрын
if he took Moscow, he would not be able to hold it as firmly as Putin, first because he'd be new and not already decades in the power-grabbing game, and second because he doesnt seem to be the organizing type. It'd be better for us than Putin, for some years at least... (and we'd come up with something before he could become a full-on dictator im sure)
@eigintasbaranauskas7519
@eigintasbaranauskas7519 10 ай бұрын
Wagner aren't heroes, they're usefull idiots. They don't want democracy, they want victory. It's the democratic opposition that should be leading the charge against Putin, not them!
@SamBrickell
@SamBrickell 10 ай бұрын
It is immensely childish to call everyone you dislike a "nazi". It just shows that you are either brainwashed or else have to use tricks to simplify your understanding of the World.
@bolobalaman
@bolobalaman 10 ай бұрын
Haha that opening is gold. His warcrime legacy, his notorious fame of being brutal will not be remembered. Instead what they remember will be the forever echoing sound of desperation for ammo. Also his pose that gave us the greatest soyboy pointing meme ever.
@AtholAnderson
@AtholAnderson 10 ай бұрын
And that's the best way to deal with the 'legacy' of shit stains like that; remember the terrible they did, but treat them not as monsters, but as jokes to be mocked
@Proriya
@Proriya 10 ай бұрын
I honestly only knew about Pringle Man's death, but this video cleared a lot of stuff for me. Thank you Australian shepherd.
@troystaunton254
@troystaunton254 10 ай бұрын
The only part of this that surprises me is that Putin didn’t put an obituary in the paper the day before. “I was deeply saddened to learn of the passing Prigozhin, who died in an unpreventable plane crash tomorrow after being shot down.”
@troystaunton254
@troystaunton254 10 ай бұрын
I feel bad for the investigators. Can only imagine the bizarre types of self deletion they will attempt in the coming months.
@gchampi2
@gchampi2 10 ай бұрын
Nah. The FSB have taken over the investigation. They'll blame a structural failure due to replacement parts not being available because of western sanctions (conveniently forgetting that Embraer are Brazilian, which is the B in BRICS).
@rantsinarobe4099
@rantsinarobe4099 10 ай бұрын
First off there were 3 crew members just trying to make a living who died you ghouls. Secondly Zelensky is a bigger murderer and scumbag than Prigozhin ever could wish to be - I am not a fan of Ukraine, NATO or my own nation at the moment. Keep it to yourselves morons.
@total_epicness6776
@total_epicness6776 9 ай бұрын
What do you mean? They are smart investigators who have already prepared the report the day before the crash.
@Deltaguy447
@Deltaguy447 10 ай бұрын
Rip in pierogi Pringles man.
@him_That_is_me
@him_That_is_me 10 ай бұрын
The fucking CIA: *Years of careful planning. Looks like natural causes. Not even clear if it was them* FSB: hey shit@ss Is the funniest thing I've ever seen.
@anthonyniemiec9409
@anthonyniemiec9409 4 ай бұрын
New record for the highest window Putin has pushed someone out of
@cann54
@cann54 10 ай бұрын
I've been watching your vids on and off for a while now, but that opening sealed the deal. +1 sub
@davydovua
@davydovua 10 ай бұрын
Just a note. Two "detonation" sounds means there was likely *one* surface-to-air missile, the first "bang" being the sonic boom the missile made travelling at supersonic speeds, and the second the actual warhead detonation. I'm talking from experience since I've heard an innumerable lot of those here in Kyiv, S-300s are large and fast enough to make very audible "bangs" even from quite far away.
@emperor-thesenate-palpatin5954
@emperor-thesenate-palpatin5954 10 ай бұрын
Shoigu and Gerasimov finally sent him his ammo.
@Zarastro54
@Zarastro54 10 ай бұрын
Kita kita! I’ve been waiting for this!
@sloeginandsleep1170
@sloeginandsleep1170 10 ай бұрын
Loved the video, which explained a lot of what I was wondering. The meme ending was *Chef Kiss* levels of perfection! You've got a new sub.
@evilemuempire9550
@evilemuempire9550 10 ай бұрын
Prigozin forgot to press space to slow down
@anotherbacklog
@anotherbacklog 10 ай бұрын
The guy will wake up from his coma 9 years later in a Cyprus hospital, then build a new PMC and eventually the military nation. Kojima’s prophecy is yet to be fulfilled. How Big Boss started started as friend to Major Zero, how cipher turned big boss into an icon, the two had fallout and become enemies, were so similar to what happened in real life. Although I will say Prigozhin’s role is more like Kaz and Ultkin is more similar to big boss, so Kojima’s story is slightly off.
@jloiben12
@jloiben12 10 ай бұрын
That meme you opened with slaps and will continue to do so for a long time
@jfmccrosson
@jfmccrosson 10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@pechudin9086
@pechudin9086 10 ай бұрын
The comic relief character got killed off. Was a bastard, but low key will miss him.
@tomasa-m5643
@tomasa-m5643 10 ай бұрын
"So, Putin, what's the next step in your masterplan?" "Crashing this plane; with no survivors!" "They expect Wagner Rus in the wreckage, brother."
@GodlikeIridium
@GodlikeIridium 5 ай бұрын
Great video. I think you're completely right. And damn... Those memes in the end 😂
@TheEnclave_1
@TheEnclave_1 10 ай бұрын
waitting for it to start
@willbygosh4887
@willbygosh4887 10 ай бұрын
He should have never trusted Lukashenko!
@twistedyogert
@twistedyogert 10 ай бұрын
The only people I feel bad for is the pilots and the flight attendant. As for Pringles and N*zi man, I hope they lived long enough to contemplate what was happening although considering the damage to the cabin they were probably unconscious within seconds or were hit by shrapnel and were dead instantly.
@pilotactor777
@pilotactor777 10 ай бұрын
Brilliant work!!!!
@TooLateForIeago
@TooLateForIeago Ай бұрын
I was a pilot who used to do VIP transit. I felt awful for the flight crew. They didn’t deserve to die with those criminals.
@Justinbyleth
@Justinbyleth 10 ай бұрын
There’s something to be said about Prigozhin going from Mr Russia Strongman to just another dead sucker but I’m not the one to say it lol
@jonmcgee6987
@jonmcgee6987 10 ай бұрын
That's 2nd time this week. That the start up of a meme was lost to the world. The first and most loved being the dog Cheems. Prigozhin even called Dolphy in his bunker yelling about getting his ammo. He finally got his ammo. Just not the way he wanted it delivered.
@konsyjes
@konsyjes 10 ай бұрын
of course, the classic anime villain scream . You set up the sound envelope just perfect
@jayphailey
@jayphailey 10 ай бұрын
Best analysis video yet. I enjoyed the memes at the end
@AmongRevenants
@AmongRevenants 10 ай бұрын
Should of reinvested in catering, with a fleet of food trucks, and his feet firmly planted on ground. The higher you get, the greater the fall.
@Saddleback117
@Saddleback117 9 ай бұрын
Doesn't count. VAR shows that pregozhin never fell through the window, previous record still stands.
@cynthiaherbst3909
@cynthiaherbst3909 9 ай бұрын
I see what you did there lol
@Maplelust
@Maplelust 9 ай бұрын
love that ending. great video!
@lateshiftsailor
@lateshiftsailor 10 ай бұрын
01:28, the man in the center backround: definitely the eyes of an armed bodyguard deciding in a split second whether or not the person taking the photo needs to be dealt with force or not; he is clearly thinking if he needs to pull his gun or not.
@quigglebert
@quigglebert 10 ай бұрын
Maybe not pull a gun, just a 'stern talking to'
@DamonRunyon-pu2du
@DamonRunyon-pu2du 10 ай бұрын
Wonder how that Sledhammer feels now? And my prayers go out to the Aircraft fatally injured in this incident
@Nostripe361
@Nostripe361 10 ай бұрын
Watching this just after finding out someone on another video said I was wrong about the Russians suffering crushing defeats during this war. I mean this is technically a victory for their air defense.
@zonQe
@zonQe 10 ай бұрын
YES, I;ve been waiting for nafo statement :D
@NightDocs
@NightDocs 10 ай бұрын
Bro that outro song is an absolute BANGER
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