Positives and negatives of PGA Tour-LIV Golf-DP World Tour merger | Golf Today | Golf Channel

[@d00rs71]

ABSOLUTEY DISGRACEFUL BEHAVIOUR by the PGA Tour. Players stayed loyal to them and didn’t sell out to LIV for the money. And now that loyalty is shoved in their faces. Disgusting behaviour. DISGUSTING

[@stefanomaniscalchi4983]

when they heard the news I would have liked to see the faces of the PGA players that renounced to hundreds of milions from LIV only to stay with the PGA ( Rory-boy , $ 300.000.000 ) , I dont think they were very pleased ah,ah,ah

[@traviskierce2428]

Phil and Brooks broke the PGA. This is the best shit ever....

[@CwBDaveis.716]

lmao

[@johnflorio3576]

They broke the Tour which made them rich and famous? That’s called treason.

[@killerangel4613]

Don’t forget the aussies Greg Norman and Cam Smith 😅

[@bamboosho0t]

Mike Tirico is a journalist. That’s how you handle this matter.

[@davidhayes7928]

He's the best.

[@garthly]

The message: there is no end to greed.

[@LoseTheWorld-KeepYourSoul]

@Garth Garthly -- Until the grave, anyway. And then comes judgment.

[@butchelmore8366]

Now, my Thu, Fri, Sat,and Sun are free.. My TV will not be on golf. After 55 years, I may only watch the Masters. Good bye, PGA Tour.

[@Chip_in]

Time to Liv your life then 🤣⛳

[@DaringDan]

LIV Golfers Last Year: "Let's sue the PGA TOUR, they're running a monopoly!" LIV Golfers This Year: "Let's drop the suit and join a bigger monopoly!"

[@stefanomaniscalchi4983]

what about the PGA ? The bloody money of the Saudis, now is it not anymore bloody ???

[@DaringDan]

@@stefanomaniscalchi4983 I didn't say anything about blood money. If I had complained about that you'd have a point but I didn't. Tiger turned down over a half billion from them. He can't control who the Commissioner decides gets a chair on the board.

[@sethers9922]

LIV golfers got what they wanted doofus

[@DaringDan]

@@sethers9922 they want to be doofuses?

[@ChaeThompson]

Guys like J Rose, Fleetwood and Rickie could have jumped to LIV but didn’t. PGA needs to have real answers to these tough questions

[@sadiegirl]

I will not support this. Never will I watch PGA again.

[@chriskelly6559]

Next the Saudis are gonna build a bunch of air conditioned stadiums, start the Saudi Baseball League, try to buy Ohtani, Acuna, Judge, etc.

[@adski0125]

And the US owners will take it cause USA! USA! USA!

[@sagerider]

We do know their personal situations. Calling this 'just a business deal' is cowardly, as is this merger. All PGA players and professionals better get a big raise out of this.

[@killerangel4613]

Why ? They made their choice not to take the money 😢

[@mbd501]

I sure hope they don't bring stupid LIV concepts like 3-round tournaments, shotgun starts and team competitions to the PGA Tour. I like watching traditional golf tournaments, in their traditional format.

[@Ironlotus516]

I think the team events are good stroke play get boring after a while, but they can’t over do these games tho

[@bogee4u]

and wearing shorts...surprised they didn't give them carts

[@leamartinbirch4288]

The happiest guy around is GN. He’s eventually got his way. Tried long enough.

[@pb12661]

and yet he'll always be the biggest choker in golf history.

[@CamMacMastermusic]

Nah… the biggest choker in golf is Tiger. He blew it way more than the Shark.

[@larrymosher5045]

You actually think the PGA officials,will want to work with Norman. Norman may just got himself fired,the Saudis don't need him anymore.

[@jodylowe8476]

Its now the Bonesaw Tour.

[@mototaco2132]

Mike Tirico, I disagree, its not a business decision. PGA tour and golf is about self governance and staying within the intent of rules. When most of PGA players stayed, they aligned with self governance and aligned with PGA's rules of golf. I feel that PGA abandoned their principals.

[@jtjr26]

When the LIV guys left there were a number of spots that opened up on the PGA tour. Do those guys just get punted to the said? They earned their tour cards. On the business side, the Saudis have been heavily invested in world markets for decades. This is no different.

[@jtillison]

Mike is such a knowledgeable and professional. Great analysis of the situation.

[@CarmonBenford]

Always refreshing to get Mike Tirico's view on things. He raises a new perspective on things. I don't ever have to be a part of any gallery in any tournament, and that's my business decision.

[@MPE828]

Golf Channel promotes and televises LPGA events sponsored by The Saudi Pubic Investment Fund but somehow, having anything to do with LIV was a line to drawn onthe sand. The faux outrage and moral high ground by some it's talking heads (Brandel Chamblee) was all BS!

[@adski0125]

Sad day, I was really enjoying LIV golf. Now we have to go back to the boring old boys club with Jay Monahan lining his own pockets in a different and more effective way.

[@tomatopie34]

Golf has not gotten "better" as a product, as Tirico claims. It is now somewhat restored to what it was before the tour players jumped ship for LIV, and now both the US and Euro tours are stained by this hypocrisy. The biggest names from LIV were already eligible to compete in the majors, so the product only changes at the regular weekly stops.

[@niklaskristensson2231]

How will this merger do to other tours ( japanese, aussie, asian, south african)?

[@bigbertha8]

There’s a huge difference between people watching and people playing golf. People playing may grow but I can easily see people being turned off from watching. I’m in that boat.

[@James_David]

I’d love to see Rory and the other pga-faithful defect, litigate, and start some other tour. I’m here for the drama now. We need justice for those who Jay Monehan abused.

[@ralphcanfield9555]

Boycott the PGA

[@Burl900]

What happened to “they funded 9/11” bs? PGA Tour is a joke

[@jcsieger9648]

Total disgrace on a political level🙄😈 Disaster on a sporting level: how are they going to merge 54 hole tournaments vs 72 hole tournaments? Cuts vs no cuts? Guarantied $ vs Making the cut? Attribution of WGR Points?? 🤬🤬 This is the most crazy decision by the PGA since their creation........... The wind was blowing in the back of the PGA and was blowing in the face of LIVE golf but now??? Unbelievable and disappointing😫🥱

[@CwBDaveis.716]

No, the wind was actually blowing in the face of the PGA like myself and others have been pointing out--they were destroying their entity before and they were going to suffer; they should have just figured out the world ranking thing and not been so ancient in their thinking--now they must deal with the fact that they are just as fake as the rest of the world

[@CATownsend777]

No it has not gotten better. I think this is the beginning of the end for professional golf in America.

[@Rheinmeister09]

It's more than a business decision. What about 9/11 and what it says to all the families who lost loved one's???? Nothing but sports washing in Formula 1, football and now Golf.

[@dbob3405]

Saudi Arabia will definitely field their best Ryder Cup team. Maybe they can dismember the top European players

[@vanguard9067]

For an individual.golfer, it wasn’t necessarily a business decision. Corporations have no morals, no soul, no conscience. The PGA proved that.

[@Tom-cr9nc]

There's no both sides on this. The PGA Tour has turned it's back on America for money. Screw them and their product.

[@davidwilson9976]

Yet the US government has propped up a dictatorship government in Saudi Arabia since 1945.......

[@stefanomaniscalchi4983]

I remind you that your president , last year, went to Riad to beg the Saudis to lower the oil price and to have a better relationship with the USA.

[@michaelrexrode3759]

I'm just surprised that so many of us are surprised/shocked at this. Like Vince Lombardi said about winning. Money isn't the main thing, it's the ONLY thing that counts.

[@bogee4u]

Lombardi never said anything about money

[@michaelrexrode3759]

@@bogee4u I was comparing Lombardi's comment about winning being the ONLY thing with this current issue, in which money is the ONLY thing that matters here. Perhaps I was unclear. In any event, it would seem that the PGA is now a wholly owned subsidiary of this Saudi investment fund.

[@jesusortiz9100]

Well said!!!! We have been doing business for 80 years with Saudi Arabia. These golf channel guys look like pre-program robots with feelings. They keep trying to rerout Mike towards their agenda and he beautifully reroutes them back to the reality they keep ignoring. One simple word: BUSINESS.

[@jasonfagan5456]

I watched my last pro golf this past weekend

[@johnburnett3942]

An excellent interview. A serious lot of sense spoken. It's business. It's not personal. Each will deal with their own morals. Time will tell.

[@GoodwalkSpoiled]

Tirico is wrong asserting the PGA Tour Loyalists "lost" something by remaining "loyal" while the LIV pioneers made $ millions. No, they didn't lose anything. They just didn't make a fortune and that's because they didn't take a calculated risk. Every single one of the LIV pioneers took a big risk and they were richly rewarded for it. No guts, no glory. Pro golfers are independent contractors. This is a high stakes business and risk takers stand to make big bucks. What I love most is how sanctimonious the Golf Channel talking heads have been throughout the entire LIV drama. Claiming the 'defectors' sold out to human rights violators, taking blood money, etc. Trying to shame Phil, Dustin, Patrick, Cameron, Bubba, Brooks et al. And now look, the PGA just crawled into bed with the Saudi's. It's all fine and dandy. Good for the game of golf. Will grow the game of golf. There's more expansion coming. Well, there is more to all of this than meets the eye. The PGA caved for several reasons. One reason may be that a number of high profile players were ready to join LIV and that could break the dam, or open the floodgates to even more loss of players. The PGA saw the writing on the wall. They wouldn't have voluntarily embraced a merger with LIV. No, there were other reasons. Multi-year litigation would shine the light on the dark side of their business. The execs would spend all of their time in court - for years on end. No, the real reasons will trickle out over time. Call Hollywood. Movies will be made about this.

[@larrymosher5045]

Will ,the next golf tour,will be sponsored and ran by Putin. Will the players,take the rubles and run.

[@Patrick-ol1rt]

Damon is such a suck up to the tour, where’s Brandel I all of this, hiding in his basement!

[@Chip_in]

Hahaha Brandel has to suck it up with the other "PGA only" losers ⛳

[@larrymosher5045]

He is trying to avoid the bonesaw.He doesn't want to end up like Khashoggi.

[@danp4769]

Get off the “Where’s the money coming from”. The dp tour had the race to Dubai for years. The money is from the same place. Moral bs. Many companies are over there.

[@johnflorio3576]

There are no positives here.

[@mandoleyva9163]

Hmmm. The NFL - AFL merger took years. The NBA- ABA merger took years. I wish the PGA stood there ground and waited a couple of more years to really see the impact ok Liv golf. Even just wait to see if LIV golf would survive 5 years.

[@burls7117]

Tiriko has some knowledge in his head. The high level golf WILL NOT change. However, some things need to be said and hashed out.

[@robertstohr1762]

Golf was in great shape before all this nonsense. Nobody asked for this, black eye for the sport this won’t go away anytime soon.

[@Nighthawk-8050]

Take the F-ing Money: Logan Roy Succession

[@CamMacMastermusic]

A reactionary move from the PGA knowing they were about to lose 12 MORE players to LIV next year.

[@seanacameron8940]

It's called HONOUR !! Proud of Rory, et. al. And Mickelson id a schwinehund !! There you go.

[@lg7014]

If it's a business decision, strip-out all non-profit corporations related to professional sports. The Saudis have not answered to 9/11 and other immoral activities.

[@darkspectrum916]

Positives? When you loose your integrity what else d u have?

[@Whizperz666]

"This is a business decision" - reiterated several times by a man who would be murdered and dismembered by the man who now owns golf.

[@ddeboy002]

PGA tour is so corrupted it's not worth watching anymore or attending. I've stopped watching everything but LIV. Long Liv Live golf.

[@jtillison]

So want does the LIV player contracts say about something like this happening?

[@BoneRazrK]

"Money." That's all Tirico had to say. Why pretend?

[@jimr5855]

Mike Tirico is a legend.

[@8888gold]

" Has golf gotten better as a product? absolutely", what a pile of crap,... it's all about the money...

[@adski0125]

It always was, you didn't realise?

[@Chip_in]

Living it up having the cake and eating it too...all the way to the bank hahaha 🤣⛳

[@dmzamzow]

I will ALWAYS listen to what Mike Tirico has to say. So knowlegeable with such a grounded view. Great vid.

[@LeoGarciaPhotos]

The truth is.....PGA didn't have a choice... it wasn't going to survive with so much young talent looking at Liv

[@Knice1310]

⁠@@TheBrindleBoxer no one watches? Come on man. Their KZbin channel alone has 275k subscribers. Don’t act like it wasn’t growing. Lol.

[@LeoGarciaPhotos]

@@TheBrindleBoxer Liv was winning and growing. In a few years time The PGA would be the place you play if you couldn't make it to Liv. And the 48 was just a start it was always going to be 72

[@michaellawrence7957]

@@Knice1310 Imagine thinking 275k subscribers was a lot!!!! HAHAHAHAHA

[@Adrian-zw6sc]

@@LeoGarciaPhotos "winning and growing.." 😄😁 I guess it's 5 o'clock somewhere🍻🤤 Gee, I wonder why the CW or whatever network they were on, hid the liv ratings numbers when things were "winning and growing" so well⛳

[@Knice1310]

@@michaellawrence7957 imagine thinking 275k and growing is no one. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@pakmughaffar]

The main Winners are the guys who left to join LIV. geniuses. HAHAHA

[@foddermott9532]

"Products" have to have a market. So, it will be up to the consumers whether it sells or not. Personally, I'm not buying....

[@stevechosay8756]

Mike Tirico "it's not for us to stand in judgement if they're right or wrong". He doesn't sound tone deaf and complicit, does he?

[@stefanomaniscalchi4983]

he wants to keep his job like all the other PGA pundits ! Until yesterday they were all PGA puppets and they were told by their masters to bash everyday LIV. From today, new order, they must start to see some positive in.... LIV ah,ah,ah

[@richp4449]

Quick question: is there any difference in the investments in foreign sports teams by USA businesses the investments in US sports by the Saudi government?

[@lessparks7802]

How in the Wide World of ports can anyone be surprised by this? Ever heard of The PGA of America vs The PGA Tour? How about the AFL and NFL...ABA and NBA? Ringing any bells? Deep Throat was right, "follow the money".

[@cogitozoo]

It’s a money grab for everyone. Greed rules. Competition will suffer.

[@VisibleSoundVideo]

Moral decision.

[@bobbear4437]

Prayers to the 9/11 families, whom the PGA have forgot about! Tirico's comments seems to ignore that!

[@cacciatoredigiovanni8052]

The PGA Tour players should feel betrayed, had an opportunity to take an easy handout thinking they were doing the right thing. Sad that this all comes down to the Almighty Dollar. Just hope the PGA guys get their fair share. Just shocked right now

[@mattreynolds612]

See what virtue signaling gets you?

[@kevinjennings5153]

Big bucks for Monahan. LIV has 48 golfers in an event, PGA tour has 120. The guy from Saudi Arabia gets to decide who plays where. Will they post Monahan's new selloutary!

[@larrymosher5045]

So the death of Washington Post journalist,Jamal Khashoggi,means nothing to the PGA. Sad.

[@GolfRx]

PGA was struggling with viewership and quality of field. This is costing sponsorship and cannot afford 20 million purse. PGA WOULD bankrupt in 2 seasons .. 4 pga names have dominated after LIV came in picture that’s it! One took mental break. That’s it

[@19thpar3]

Repeat after me “money money moneyyyyyyyyy” at the end of the day the United States does business with the Saudis and other countries who lack a moral compass. Time to move on and just enjoy the golf

[@n111054]

It is not good that Saudi Arabia were allowed to spend their money in America but what about the golf club and golf ball golf shoes shirts and all the things that go in to make Golf a game where are these products made? Who’s Country makes them, are we calling the kettle black?

[@steviewonder2492]

Yeah it’s a business decision aka take the big cash and give up all the ethics. 🖕

[@chriskay1449]

The PGA Tour never had ethics. It was all about complete control of golf. the PGA was losing that. They merged to keep it.

[@steviewonder2492]

@@chriskay1449 yeah your probably right

[@chriskay1449]

@@steviewonder2492 I am right. THe fact that people fell for the PGA Commish's BS morals speech is hilarious. That was a cover to avoid admitting they wanted to keep all players under their control.

[@steviewonder2492]

@@chriskay1449 yeah. But while there was influence from the saudies previously by sponsor money etc, now they own the sport. What’s next? Seems to me that the US is loosing power

[@chriskay1449]

@@steviewonder2492 They don't own the sport. The PGA Tour retains majority ownership under this deal.

[@jefftaylor8644]

The only real issue i had was the corny product that liv golf was. If it bleeds into the tour then i guess im done watching it

[@davidhayes7928]

The PGA may have recognized those law suits were going to damage their product and this was juat easier.

[@russellkempe3231]

This still does NOT address the equipment issue with the PGA Tour. The Tour needs to establish a STANDARD BALL that all Players use in Tournament play. Driver COR is still an issue.

[@StockMarketCaddie]

Golf Channel................a freaking joke

[@johnlaw6735]

is jack eating his words now?

[@brianbenedict8374]

What positive can you make for LIV you are so wrong Mike and you know it stop!!!!!

[@martinh.birnie5582]

I've followed Mike ever since he was on Syracuse Sports TV....like his commentary on most every event he's covered....I got to disagree with him on this....business deal or not...this is a sad day for the integrity of golf, and sullies those that sat at the table to finish this "deal".

[@meb1]

If this is just a "business deal" why am I watching the Golf Channel or other sports networks? Seems like it I watch sports because, ya know, sports. Saying it is okay just because of business does not help discuss the sports and political aspects. Mike T definitely sports-washed or business-washed the whole thing.

[@Matt-cr4vv]

Backlash from this may not even be Saudi itself as much as for the Tour and the way they handled this in such a shit way. The Tour took such a firm moral high ground stance and let their players put themselves out there to defend it all to make a deal when they could without even informing the players. I get the pragmatism and business sense to come to a deal in this but I also have a hard time seeing the Tour positively after they took the path of shaming everyone about the source of the money when they never had to go that route to try and shame or guilt players from making a jump. When you see that you really can’t listen to Monohan speak about why the deal makes sense, even though it easily does, because it’s so glaringly hypocritical from the stance they’ve had. I mean it’s hard to look much worse than aligning with 9/11 victims families to go after LIV to then hammer out a deal in secret and not even bother to speak to those people before announcing the deal. I think that is going to harm their forward moving business more than Saudi itself will but I guess we will see.

[@christinacarmenate2919]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and Damon would not say one negative word if before air he was told he would be fired if so!!!!!!!!!!! $$$$$$$$$

[@Realistndagame]

Y'all beating a dead horse with the sports washing😢😢😢😅😅😂😂

[@davesober2093]

Unpeel is not a word Mike.

[@markspoor4663]

Let the spinning begin.

[@tomjones2121]

Wait till they buy the NFL LOL then we'll see whose laughing ..

[@abrahama2643]

When was golf NOT about wealth privilege?

[@jasonladd6400]

the only positive is for the liv bandits

[@MrBimirud]

Morality is meaningless without resolve, and leverage, to back it up. If someone truly has a moral objection to Saudi money, let them vote with their feet and refuse to play.

[@markedwards5512]

Money corrupts everything it touches.

[@noelbrian55]

No positives…only shame.

[@mattreynolds612]

It could be the best thing to ever happen for Female golf if they do it right everyone will benefit.

[@Adrian-zw6sc]

And what happens if the Saudis don't see the return on their investment 5-10yrs down the road? When they realize that golf viewership just isn't the football viewership they've been trying to create, and move on to invest their 💰💰💰elsewhere.

[@banditbaker1675]

I'm pleased that peace seems to have broken out in the World of professional golf. However, this "merger" is going to put a number of leading golfers in a very awkward spot. Notably, Rory has made no secret of his opposition to the Saudi regime using Sports Washing to whitewash their appalling human rights record. I guess we now know why his game blew up at the Memorial on Sunday

[@CamMacMastermusic]

1:01 yea but it wasn’t about the money for those guys that stayed !!! Right ???? So why should they care now ?? #Hypocrites

[@Rick-C-117]

I feel betrayed as a fan. I was strongly supporting the PGA.

[@stefanomaniscalchi4983]

money talk ,bs walk

[@Rick-C-117]

@@stefanomaniscalchi4983 I agree. Jay Monahan is a rat.

[@darkspectrum916]

The Saudis want to grow golf by stealing players from the pga! Way to grow the game. Monaghan is a snake

[@hespheiden1]

Mike Tirico, voice of reason.

[@ryanklemm6137]

is it still too early to talk about who else was behind 9/11?

[@vaughnlegend9957]

Hypocrisy at it's greatest!!!

[@jimbobogie8204]

Ironically the NHLPA is located in Toronto...

[@craigdrysdale4553]

Geez. Ricky Fowler must be fuming.

[@RayNLA]

Keep Rory away from elevators!

[@stefanomaniscalchi4983]

he must concentrate in the only thing is good at, play golf and leave the adults to deal with serious issues.......

[@GolfRx]

Pga has now opportunity to develop , invest and fund more charitable organizations.. built America better