Do You Like Kitakaze More Than Harugumo?

[@L0RDLUK]

I like the Akizuki more than both of these but yeah, I like the Kitakaze more than the Harugumo.

[@LaunchpadGamingGuy]

I played almost every ship now, and I have to say these are still some of the most fun ships for me.

[@alphax4785]

Honestly after the concealment nerf Akizuki is the best in the line, you're giving up the slot 6 but in return you get better maneuverability and the 4 torps that have actually reasonable reload are much more usable than the awkward 6 launcher that you have to hold for the doom drop that oftentimes doesn't work.

[@TiOBu4]

You're right I've been farming a lot of free xp and elite xp by mogging t9 and t10 ships with Aki

[@AllAhabNoMoby]

She's just so slow though. She only feels normal when the speed boost is on. I think Aki is great but Kitakaze is a major step up.

[@taiko1237]

@@AllAhabNoMoby Yeah, also... I wouldn't say she turns like a cruiser exactly but her rudder shift and acceleration (especially in reverse) seem more cruiser-like than destroyer-like. While I don't have Kitakaze yet her maneuverability seems closer to a regular destroyer's.

[@AllAhabNoMoby]

@@taiko1237 Good point, Aki actually handles a bit like Harugumo! 😂 Gotta love her gun power though. A DD that can set fire to the entire enemy team at 15 kms is just awesome. There's nothing like it at T8.

[@taiko1237]

@@AllAhabNoMoby You can get her range to 15km? I didn't realise it was that far, that's impressive. I don't personally find fires to be my main source of damage in her (that goes to 'cruisers showing broadside to the angry AP-spitting smokescreen 8km away' - I even managed to citadel a British CL with it once) but I haven't really built into her fire chance.

[@deaninchina01]

Was a special day when I got the Star Kita in a loot box. One of my favs in ranked AND I can farm RB point with the main line. Last month got the Scilla, Druid and Colbert plus the Colombo unique upgrade in the one hit. Smiles all round.

[@BestShifty]

The only thing that sucks about Star Kitas is the trops are limited to only the 8km ones, otherwise it would be insane.

[@senseifuri6953]

Honestly I think Harugumo is still better. Yes you lose maneuverability, but the added DPM to me is worth it. I don’t really find situations other than zoning where the torps are that useful, so in the end what the Haru brings to offer is still good enough.

[@angusdad4231]

Wait… Did he just say he plays co op? No way. Why? He’s so damn good. Randoms are like co op for him. Have to rewind and listen one more time. Have a great long weekend PQ.

[@CapitalRoach]

I think he means when he wants to quickly grind DDs for research points

[@matstick199]

@@CapitalRoach yeah, coop games are over in like 5 minutes usually, since the bots just rush in over and over, it's more efficient to grind

[@kyleuptergrove4040]

I do the same thing when grinding Research Points. quick easy win.

[@colvingazelle]

@@kyleuptergrove4040but the XP in Coop is so much lower than Random. How does that work?

[@kyleuptergrove4040]

@@colvingazelle free xp is how I don’t grind any of them.

[@ismaelalonso9621]

Hello Potato, can you bring next time Goliath?, I have not seem a video about her in a while 😢

[@louisfbrooks]

I've been grinding this line while I level up Yamamoto and enjoying it. I've also been having a lot of fun in T7 ranked with the Shira.

[@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933]

I like Harugumo because she's basically a Japanese equivalent to the Fletcher. Plus in my Azur Lane AU, she's depicted as Wakamo from Blue Archive.

[@tomriley5790]

Haragumo's nowhere near as manouverable as Fletcher.

[@NotTheRookie]

I have my Harugumo set up with the leg mod and coal smoke mod, range skill and no conceal on the commander. With the special japanese commander's improved survivability expert and 30mm HE pen, you're a smoke light cruiser without a citadel

[@klausjohansen6363]

Kita no questions. Better MM and mobility

[@joedanker3267]

Those shell arcs are insanely good.

[@_the_wolff_2652]

Abruzzi or Duca d Aosta? review? :)

[@MSgtRazor]

Akizuki is my preferred. Because Operations / Asym > Randoms

[@stuffandwhatnot4401]

So, starting next week, when operations allow up to supers, will you still go Aki or will you move on up?

[@valtterisaaros6757]

Base speed is awful though..

[@TheBigGiant_SpaceChiken]

I like the Kita better. The Gummo feels like a cruiser more than a DD IMO.

[@g0veGaming]

Good timing, just got Harugumo and I have been struggling to figure her out.

[@L0RDLUK]

Battleship Harugumo does, indeed, suffer from poor maneuverability. It's in the same class as most fast battleships.

[@AreJay_Kira]

Thanks for the tips. Question, can you get yourself on the list for the updated channel member thing wargaming has going on?

[@doomboygammer6009]

P. Rupprecht secondaries are a few barrels shy of being Shleif secondaries at a tier lower. Similar to Kita, despite being technically worse, dropping a tier is enough to balance it out.

[@voughklry8362]

yes but 10k less health is pain

[@Go0Ose1990]

hello , how do you shoot in the right place while looking elsewhere without aiming?

[@FrostBeam009]

I honestly dont know... I played so much Kitakaze in ranked that Harugumo feels.... not as powerful and impactful i guess.

[@Cpt_DoDo]

i love that line.. so easy to grind and fun to play.

[@taiko1237]

The earlier ships in the line are actually quite good, Shiratsuyu is basically Kagero at T7 for example, and Minekaze is really fun to play, but they certainly aren't gunboats. (Although Hatsuharu is kind of just objectively worse than Fubuki.)

[@Mortifix]

Since when do ships break in half when they explode?

[@Apollyon-er4ut]

Never looked at the stats, but it always seems that Kita is way more maneuverable and responsive to throttle and rudder.

[@thegreatdodo5092]

Have you had a look at how many shatters you have? IFHE and youd be melting those BBs in 1/3 of the time. Fires are RNG, and the only argument is if you like consistency over randomness.

[@markshinn7837]

Kitakaze is in my top 10 favorite ships and my favorite DD overall.

[@haggeoromero]

Wish Harugumo was a little bit more nimble doe.

[@A_Slayer_Named_Buffy]

I’m on my 3rd reset with the line. However, I only got the multiplier on the on the 1st grind. These last two I didn’t get a multiplier and the message on the reset menu say it will be two months for the next multiplier. What’s going on with that?

[@hashteraksgage3281]

Every few months you get a X2 research point bonus

[@lonegun]

Yes! Kita ftw! :)

[@maxwelllittle5291]

Does Harugumo still take full pen damage from battleship AP sometimes or did they patch that out?

[@Neneset]

No. That was patched out of Harugumo and Khabavrosk a couple of years ago.

[@iamfodder1017]

I've ran that entire line in coop 3 or 4 times now.....coop is just easier and more fun half the time, less stressful. Platoon two Kitakaze's together and almost no dd will come for you on or near a cap...who would want to face two Kitakaze's swapping smoke? If you're in a platoon with two Kitakaze's most dd's will just head for a different cap. I eat a lot of torps in these boats though, they are fat and sluggish.

[@deaninchina01]

But the bots don’t care what they face..

[@MrTrool323]

You have smaller daka daka...and then the large daka daka with legmod which combined with Yamamoto simply turns the guns into a constant stream of piss...i mean fire....piss fire

[@dlm9709]

i like how the aki and kita play, but the dakka... the dakka calls me

[@klmnts]

People used really prefer the Kita over the Haru when Haru got full penned by BB AP shells.

[@sirdancealot2645]

What is Harugumo? This line ended with the Kitakaze no?

[@Warzoroog]

How much free exp is it exactly?

[@billhanna2148]

they never tell you until AFTER you reset which drives me MAD

[@duskobabic4285]

@@billhanna2148 I've never done that. How exactly is that done?

[@MartialEmperor6344]

​@@duskobabic4285well you can only reset lines till u have grinded out 5 techlines in the game...

[@billhanna2148]

@@duskobabic4285 If you watched the video PQ explains it briefly but you need a completed line of ships from 1 to 10 and in the Techline list screen at the bottom of the 10th ship you should see the research icon ONLY if you have the 10th ship completed

[@Alyeska23]

Kitakaze is so good that it can take on most T10 DDs at advantage and even T11 DDs need to be weary of the Kita.

[@Billswiftgti]

Kita and Aki are very good in their tiers

[@sevinceur1766]

Take the damn damage buff PQ!

[@redeclipse4ever409]

Is IFHE worth using?

[@Wangpi3ce]

As a general rule of thumb, IFHE is almost never worth using on any ship unless you absolutely _need_ the extra penetration. It isn't a pure upgrade, you sacrifice half of your fire chance to get that extra penetration, so you're going to get much less damage from fires. It makes your damage more consistent in a lot of cases, but when shooting at things like other DDs, CLs, poorly armored CAs, and superstructure of any description, you are essentially wasting those commander skill points. On ships like the Aki-Kita-Haru who already have extra pen built into their HE it is especially useless.

[@redeclipse4ever409]

@@Wangpi3ce Hi, thank you for your reply. You are absolutely right. I was mislead by someone promoting IFHE on this line, but i have tried using build without it and found it to be better.

[@bahadiralpcetin]

Well call me whatever you want, but I dont even have harugumo unlocked. I only have kitakaze, and even keep my lvl 21 yamamoto on it. I even would prefer being in a kita in a super ship game than being in a haru in a T8 game. Gosh didnt they ruin a masterpiece destroyer just to give it 1 more gun...

[@macdaddyd3994]

Ship Request: T8 Cossack & Kidd (cuz cb coming up!)

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

Kitakaze is the best tech tree DD in the game and I will die on that hill!

[@Emp.]

I am always RB grinding the line so couldn't even get a chance to git gud at Haru

[@janas86pl]

in this line i have 21 point commanders on t8 and t9, i didnt play t10 even one game in random

[@marcingawlicki]

In my opinion Kitakze is much nicer to play for me more agile and more often play with lower tears, but true haru have more power.

[@Tearnofear]

imho if you wanna play DD than Harugumo is no option. She just a light Cruiser w/o Citadel

[@Almedius76]

I'm a free look addict...It just killed my mouse though...

[@benderrodriguez2362]

I don't like Harugumo because it's clunky, plus it has the same box o' gimmicks 2 tiers higher. Now that T10 has to deal with supers, the tree really peaks with Akizuki. Kitakaze doesn't suffer as much, but in T11-12 super MM, it's a struggle.

[@tijger5353]

I hate both of them cuz of the manouverability, If I want to play a cruiser I am gonna play an actual cruiser

[@matstick199]

Except they don't have a Citadel

[@leonardobaldassarre3911]

​​​@@matstick199and they have 6.2/6.3 conceal and shima torps and smoke and speedboost

[@colvingazelle]

Then you probably won’t like the Elbing LOL!

[@jameshobbs1460]

Premium German Destroyer T-61

[@upsidedownwithkris6754]

I just bought Haru

[@AndrewPardo]

Kita, that 100 meters wider detect on haru makes it unplayable 😉

[@jackcrawford6078]

Kita. It's not even close for me. *i usually hit the reload booster right away. that way u have Two sets ready to go about the time you need them.

[@Supev_]

WG could have made 39kt Kitakaze but nope 5 turret it is.

[@nothomersimpson]

Currently Kitakaze my fav boat...

[@SpikelessEchidna]

I got to 8:48 before too many CV complaints. It's a very tiring theme these days

[@robertshaver4432]

Wait... how the hell do you get 4X research points????? I did them when they were doubled then did it again while it was singled and am now waiting for them to become doubled again! 4X??????? WTF?????

[@Neneset]

You FXP up, don't buy the ships, reset them again at the next 2X research points, now they are 4x. Do it again and 6x. Highest I got before harvesting was 16x.

[@robertshaver4432]

@@Neneset Awesome Thank you! I got Vampire and I guess Druid is next on my addenda. Beyond that I'm not too interested. The Halland mod is awesome BTW. Basically a super heal so there's no unhealable damage taken and it heals more too, the speed boost takes it up to 42.3 knots and remains a full 2 min boost and gives it jump off the line acceleration. I used to hate my Halland, now I at least like it. Thanks again: Robert

[@HarutoArata]

Yes, Kita feels more comfortable to play.

[@ntoxik1]

Kita > Haru all day every day!

[@vitezslavlorenc3479]

None. Hayate :-) 20 shima torps in the water is powerfull shit :D

[@mirekbns]

Harugumo is more powerful but Kita is stronger in its tier.

[@DiselHunt]

Damn, I'm early

[@unclelou8636]

Tier for tier, Kitikaze is absolutely better than Harugumo.

[@sandshrew8148]

day 7 asking for roon review

[@bernhardlangers778]

Let's just be honest. Kitakaze is not a t9 DD. And it never was. Excluding the late gimmick train, just compare her to say a Gearing. Worse smoke and torp dpm, hp almost equal but way better gun dpm while competitive in terms of concealment and speed. Kita is t10 at t9, while haru is just a t10, trading off maneuverability and conceal for even more dpm.

[@hashteraksgage3281]

Yeah, kitakaze is insane. And akatsuki in a downtier feels just illegal

[@illumin4t152]

everyone complains about CV, i dont get it in my point of view SUBS are worse to deal with

[@felszi1043]

Potato you make really interesting and fun videos but that laugh you put on in your videos makes me cringe every time. It doesnt sound genuine

[@commandercorgi5791]

You're entitled to your opinion, but why share it?

[@felszi1043]

@@commandercorgi5791 I like to watch his content and I think he is forcing the laugh and I would enjoy it a lot more if he stopped

[@professormoriarthus]

@@commandercorgi5791 because its painfully grating on the ears like nails on a chalkboard and annoying af, but the content is so good we suffer through it anyway while hopelessly wishing we wouldnt have to

[@AselCihan]

Pretend your WG. User traffic is down %40. How do you keep the remaining traffic entertained? What's keeping WG from creating bots disguised as people? Besides your denial that this phenomenon is even possible? Would you continue to invest time or money in a game if you knew you were fighting bots? Or would you look elsewhere to indulge your need to kill something in a video game? Mmmm? Your all so adorable I hope you never learn the truth 😊

[@AselCihan]

Thunder fap engaged

[@xxxthwagdrakexxx4672]

6:10 I'm pretty sure that was daring those ships always had more he pen