The Best Battleship In The Game: Petropavlovsk

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Potato Quality

Күн бұрын

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@auxityne
@auxityne 3 жыл бұрын
Kremlin: Who are you?! Petro: I'm you, but flatter.
@damekh7425
@damekh7425 2 жыл бұрын
10/10 comment.
@Ivanical
@Ivanical 3 жыл бұрын
Dah tovarische, all good stuff. Magical Stalinium shells with short fuse that never overpen and high velocity with very near equal penetration to Bismarck's 15" guns: Check Shortened fire duration because of the cruiser labelling: Check More armor than some tier X battleships (Thunderer, Conqueror and Republique) that can shatter other cruisers HE: Check So much more armor you can actually angle against Yamato and Shikishima shells which can't be done by the previously mentioned BBs: Check Slim and sleek hull that can sometimes cause BB caliber shells to overpen: Check Workable maneuverability despite all that armor as if moving and turning a ship that heavy wasn't going to be difficult or problematic based on hydrodynamics: Check Low free board making your citadel hard to hit: Check (Don't question this last part because the waves in Soviet Russia are never turbulent tovarische, lest the face the ire of Stalin) What are you talking about comrade? Ship iz balans. Spreadsheet says so.
@grizzz6884
@grizzz6884 3 жыл бұрын
don't worry the petro takes all my pens at the moement i am running at 1 pen per selvo for no damage ,so load he 4000 damage most times . never used to be that way . i have 1 game yesterday where i had a 56000 salvo at 20 plus ks , i said WTF the game is a lottery
@themacker894
@themacker894 3 жыл бұрын
The best battleship in the game is a Russian cruiser. Hard to believe WoWs is a Russian company.
@CloneDAnon
@CloneDAnon 3 жыл бұрын
Hardly. Thunderer and Conqueror will wreck Petro extremely easy. In fact anyone with decent HE wrecks Petro that moves like a brick and cant hit a side of a barn.
@matiscouillard1618
@matiscouillard1618 3 жыл бұрын
@@CloneDAnon rectification, conqueror can shit on anything it decided to shoot at
@CloneDAnon
@CloneDAnon 3 жыл бұрын
@@matiscouillard1618 Big true :)
@Sjef0194517
@Sjef0194517 3 жыл бұрын
No worries comrade! Now, have some Vodka
@kno6ndg7
@kno6ndg7 2 жыл бұрын
German cruiser Hindenburg will burn Petro to the bottom easily even in close distance.
@Lord_Zath
@Lord_Zath 3 жыл бұрын
o hey you activated windows!
@mrslendydude
@mrslendydude 3 жыл бұрын
I see this is uploaded right after I rushed down two broadsiding thunderers in my Petro at 5km and got 12 citadels, killing them both... truly the best BB.
@citizend13
@citizend13 3 жыл бұрын
on the other hand, you manage to show your broadside, pretty much guaranteed death.
@fokionleile7662
@fokionleile7662 3 жыл бұрын
@@citizend13 with the amount of freeboard this ship has? I think you're ok.
@restarting_krnl
@restarting_krnl 3 жыл бұрын
With the new wows plAYeRbASe it would be SUPER effective
@mrslendydude
@mrslendydude 3 жыл бұрын
@@citizend13 Showing your broadside to BB is almost always death, yes
@mr.eggplant866
@mr.eggplant866 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, come on.
@dgritsak147
@dgritsak147 3 жыл бұрын
Yea I remember my first game after grinding through Riga. I think I ended with 14 citadels after the first game, and like 9 citadels in the follow up game. I remember just laughing and thinking how broken that is, especially when ships try to angle, but not angle enough for the improved pen angles.
@andrewduan5123
@andrewduan5123 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, its pen angles are good, but they're actually not as good as the USN pen angles. The soviet ones only give an additional 5 degrees of angle iirc. In terms of pen angles the best is the RN, the USN, then RU heavy line
@dogruler543
@dogruler543 3 жыл бұрын
my favorite part of the ship was that all wg CC's were saying "yeah it will be strong in randoms, its fine it will just get focused out in comp and clan wars" and look at it now, its crazy how things turn out huh...
@wesgeorge4112
@wesgeorge4112 3 жыл бұрын
CC's judgement is frequently flawed. They crapped all over the Marceau too, and that thing dominates randoms and competitive play. I consider what they say, but I won't love or hate a ship based off what they say anymore.
@dogruler543
@dogruler543 3 жыл бұрын
​@@wesgeorge4112 somehow it seems i need to add a /s to my comment
@gustavgans921
@gustavgans921 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny that the russians actually invented such a godlike ship and the fact that WG knows EXACTLY how it was is staggering too.
@valkyriedown5465
@valkyriedown5465 3 жыл бұрын
IMO The sheer tankiness of ships like Petro and Alaska is the reason WG is yeeting cruiser tanking skills
@Ivanical
@Ivanical 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, but it doesn't affect Petro. Petro doesn't get the penalty of battlecruiser/large cruiser which has the same fire duration of battleships.
@jwbraughton
@jwbraughton 3 жыл бұрын
Sssshhhhhhhhh!!!! Quiet it down man!!! I have a 73% win rate in this thing. Lol
@RPGTKingpin
@RPGTKingpin 3 жыл бұрын
Don't sweat it. It's Russian. WG doesn't nerf Russian ships. Worst you have to worry about is a bit of health shaved off your AA. Which doesn't do anything anyway :P
@thelvadam2884
@thelvadam2884 3 жыл бұрын
@@RPGTKingpin they did nerf it alot compared to the early test versions though, just look at flamus Videos to see.
@RPGTKingpin
@RPGTKingpin 3 жыл бұрын
@@thelvadam2884 Sure, but that doesn't mean they nerfed it enough. And to illustrate, I invite you to have a look at the overall performance of vessels in the game. As memory serves, Petro and Stalin take up the top two spots on the list almost consistently on all servers. And judging by the fact I was able to achieve a near 200k damage 7 citadel game fighting battleships while taking minimal damage point blank against the second biggest guns in the game, on my very first run in Petro, where I struggle to break 150k damage and consistently get blown out of the water in my main cruiser which I've been playing consistently for the past 4 years... Yeah I'm comfortable saying this ship is nuts. Even after the nerfs.
@grizzz6884
@grizzz6884 3 жыл бұрын
@@RPGTKingpin i find the players playing the stalin now days should take up knitting , the sit so far back you my well be a man down
@mkgaming990
@mkgaming990 3 жыл бұрын
@@RPGTKingpin Just play Kremlin in Randoms where there is a FDR and Thunderer you will enjoy a lot when you are big food for CV and HE spammers Lol.
@meg_a_rexonblitz6344
@meg_a_rexonblitz6344 3 жыл бұрын
Just wait for the commander rework,where this thing gets improved dispersion at longer ranges and improved reload within your conceal range, if that gets implemented.
@CloneDAnon
@CloneDAnon 3 жыл бұрын
Yea wait also for Italian BB's with their insane SAP (like it does already from cruiser SAP). Petro already eats massive damage from BB HE (and Cruiser HE too with good enough pen).
@neonlight1214
@neonlight1214 3 жыл бұрын
@@CloneDAnon how massive? This ship isnt even that big of a target. If you receive huge dmg its cause you didn't pay attention and couldnt dodge or you were focus fired
@CloneDAnon
@CloneDAnon 3 жыл бұрын
@@neonlight1214 Its plenty of a big target for HE that pens over 50mm. The ship only sits low in the water, otherwise its not that small. I have no problems in removing nose in Petros in ranked battles (or randoms) with my Thunderer (Conqueror probably does it even better and Henri or Goliath can work fine too).
@mrslendydude
@mrslendydude 3 жыл бұрын
@@CloneDAnon That goes for all ships... thunderer and conqueror can remove anything trying to angle. The only special case I see is when petro is going up against hindenburg or roon which are tough targets if they angle and run away plus they can pen your deck to death.
@CloneDAnon
@CloneDAnon 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrslendydude Nah. Other ships can at least maneuver, but if Petro, Moskva or Stalin goes nose in its a fiery death that awaits them.
@AllAhabNoMoby
@AllAhabNoMoby 3 жыл бұрын
I got her a few days ago. She does not disappoint. And I only have a 15 point captain for her. Awesome ship. Love the firing angles, and of course the 360 turrets. I didn't mind Tallinn and Riga at all, but Petro is a whole other level.
@NFSfreak91210
@NFSfreak91210 3 жыл бұрын
How to improve AP performance for ships in WoWs? You either give it: - Better alpha (German) - Better pen - Better pen angles (American) - Shorter fuse (British CL) Fuck it, let's just give the Petro all of them.
@Coyote27981
@Coyote27981 3 жыл бұрын
A ship like that wouldn't be balanced. You need to add superb survivability to balance it.
@CloneDAnon
@CloneDAnon 3 жыл бұрын
Petro accuracy is terrible and Thunderer or Conqueror can burn down a nose in Petro quite quickly. The only thing Petro is tanky is against AP when its nose in. People need to stop spamming AP into a nose Petro. You switch to HE even with all BB's and CA's. Petro goes down just as fast as any other heavy cruiser vs HE that has decent pen. Hell, even SAP is great against Petro and Italian BB's are coming soon.
@simongodfrey3765
@simongodfrey3765 3 жыл бұрын
If you're in a BB, there's not much you can do. If you're in a cruiser, there's not much you can do. If you're in a DD, there's not much you can do. That's the definition of the kind of ship that should not be in the game - same as CVs.
@bormos3
@bormos3 3 жыл бұрын
Except you can. BBs will obviously always win, most cruisers can out DPM petro, especially if they stay at least 12km away and DDs? I mean...since when is petro a threat to DDs. The only truly good thing about it is its armor......and 360 degree turrets.
@simongodfrey3765
@simongodfrey3765 3 жыл бұрын
@@bormos3 Hey, I'm only quoting the video and as for the threat to DDs - it's a 12km radar cruiser. The first thing that anyone who plays DDs does in a new game is check how many radar cruisers there are.
@bormos3
@bormos3 3 жыл бұрын
@@simongodfrey3765 petro can only fire a single salvo during its radar, unless it has an upgrade mounted and is already preaimed, in which case it just might squeeze in two salvos...soviet CLs are a much bigger threat to dds
@simongodfrey3765
@simongodfrey3765 3 жыл бұрын
@@bormos3 Plus focus from the rest of the team. Also once radared your general location is known, so your options are reduced - area denial.
@CloneDAnon
@CloneDAnon 3 жыл бұрын
Any BB simply has to switch to HE shells and it will wreck any nose in Petro.
@britmachine722
@britmachine722 3 жыл бұрын
Haven't unlocked Petro quite yet but if it can keep up what is possible in Riga plus going off this video I'm very much looking forward to it. I had a Riga game the other day where i was abandoned on a push versus 2 BBs plus a Roon and an Amalfi, and still survived the whole match. Tallinn wasn't near as good but personally Riga seems enjoyable on the way to Petro. This is the first time I've played a cruiser line where I more often than not feel comfortable playing aggressively in the right situation.
@stevepeterson6070
@stevepeterson6070 3 жыл бұрын
Thing I like best about this ship is when a volley of APs comes in and just bounces off your hull like a car in a hail storm. Russian Bias is fun.
@jasonsu6214
@jasonsu6214 3 жыл бұрын
This is blalans
@Library_of_Lunacy
@Library_of_Lunacy 3 жыл бұрын
Love this ship! Great in clan battles too! Carriers give it hell in clan battles but it's so is amazing. Pretty much fire AP all the time if you can HE does great against Dd but other than that it's great. Rear turret on it is awesome 360 turning radius.
@daflea66
@daflea66 3 жыл бұрын
OFC you do its ridiculous how can one not
@meg_a_rexonblitz6344
@meg_a_rexonblitz6344 3 жыл бұрын
All the turrets are 360 degree. Not just the rear one.
@lubossoltes321
@lubossoltes321 3 жыл бұрын
since this thing does full AP pens to DDs, just fire a hair below waterline and watch the DDs evaporate ...
@rasmusroskjr3604
@rasmusroskjr3604 3 жыл бұрын
I shot down all of an FDR rocket squadron simultanously in one puff in CBs, so the ship is probably the closest to a no-fly-zone you'll get in a cruiser, without being easily taken out by one.
@dandiaber456
@dandiaber456 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of people didnt like the talinn and the riga, i had no problems whatsoever getting consistently good results in those ships.
@rasmusroskjr3604
@rasmusroskjr3604 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was thinking the same, riga has almost as good armor, albeit with no 360 turrets and worse reload, and the talinn doesen't get the icebreaker and even a bit worse armor than Riga overall, but gets 12 180mm guns with good dispersion instead, making it very potent even on the HE. The real grind is all the ships leading up to the talinn IMO, as those ships can easily die to luck
@mlauriti
@mlauriti 3 жыл бұрын
yea, i like Riga, Tallin is good, not the best but is ok.
@CloneDAnon
@CloneDAnon 3 жыл бұрын
@@rasmusroskjr3604 Other Soviet cruisers dont get the improved pen angles. Only Petro gets them.
@matthewvenci2430
@matthewvenci2430 3 жыл бұрын
@@rasmusroskjr3604 I loved the shchors and the budyonny tbh
@CloneDAnon
@CloneDAnon 3 жыл бұрын
@ANUBHAV SHARMA Oh yeah you are right i just double checked them. Its the other Soviet cruiser line that does not get them, though i think Nevsky and Donskoi should get improved pen angles in my opinion.
@danny_s1nker68
@danny_s1nker68 3 жыл бұрын
@Potato Quality I dont know what your clan mates told you, but Tallinn is an absolute monster at T8, its a Eugen hull with 180mm guns that have way better pen than DM and Zao, the only T10 ship that has similar pen is Goliath's 234mm guns, not to mention improved pen angles and 12km stealth radar. Now Riga is a also a monster, it has Moskva's pen, improved pen angles as well 35mm deck amd sides, which is only vulnerable to Shikishima, but unlike Petro, if you give broadside in her, you WILL get citadeled. Forgot to mention, Tallin has very good firing angles so you dont need to worry about that. My stats for backing my story up: IGN: danny_s1nker EU
@Roylevis
@Roylevis 3 жыл бұрын
And 360 guns are just sooooooooo good! :)
@CloneDAnon
@CloneDAnon 3 жыл бұрын
You certainly need them with that battleship level of accuracy on Petro.
@adislemes7335
@adislemes7335 3 жыл бұрын
Potato, you forgot the most stupid thing about this one, the taknyness of this ship is mostly due to ridiculously low freeboard, superstructure is small ye, but oh boy this thing sits lower in the water than most destroyers, it is a small target to hit, and when you eventually do, its an overpen or shatter.....
@CloneDAnon
@CloneDAnon 3 жыл бұрын
Learn to use HE or SAP vs a nose in Petro. A nose in Petro is also a perfect target for CV attack.
@adislemes7335
@adislemes7335 3 жыл бұрын
@@CloneDAnon Yes, but you gotta hit it :D
@CloneDAnon
@CloneDAnon 3 жыл бұрын
@@adislemes7335 Its not like Petro is maneuvering. Not very hard to hit a stationary target.
@adislemes7335
@adislemes7335 3 жыл бұрын
@@CloneDAnon You know that horizontal dispersion is the problem when shooting a target that is far away, as shells get spread over a large area horizontally, which means a nose in Petro is easy to hit as much as RNG allows it. The point you made about aiming and using correct ammo has nothing to do with the apparent problem here, Petropavlovsk nose in is almost as small target as a DD, and vast majority of ships will only be able to HE pen the upper part of the bow. Skill and knowledge is not something that stops ppl from effectively dmging Petro, its rather a combination of its small size, armor layout, arbitrary pen values plus the rng.
@snoboreddotcom
@snoboreddotcom 3 жыл бұрын
One are of weakness is the upper belt just around the turret area on the bow. Theres a weird little weakness there that can take citadels. Its kinda similar to the same weakness on pommern, not very consistent but definitely the best place to aim if one is showing you a greater than 30 degree angle
@HMASTroll
@HMASTroll 3 жыл бұрын
Can confirm, hit it today several times with the Sov Soyuz.
@thomasbergin995
@thomasbergin995 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Potato, love your vids! You've helped me a lot with my progress down the usn bb line. However, I cant seem to master the playstyle change with the North Carolina. Can you please make a NC how to vid?
@JPFanBoy2
@JPFanBoy2 3 жыл бұрын
Iowa and NC lead times truly mess me up
@williamgrand9724
@williamgrand9724 3 жыл бұрын
Literally got this ship a few days ago and I'm not sure why I didn't get it earlier, the shells are something else. Tallin was annoying af Riga was quite a bit better imho.
@andrewduan5123
@andrewduan5123 3 жыл бұрын
Tallin was pretty shocking ngl. Kinda the ugly ducklingof the RU CA line. Riga at least was decently tanky. Petro really was worth it though
@jakubslavik5595
@jakubslavik5595 3 жыл бұрын
@ANUBHAV SHARMAplanes carrying molotovs.
@SinkkingTurrtle
@SinkkingTurrtle 3 жыл бұрын
This ship is even dumber when kiting because it can fire at 25 degrees off centerline, which is good enough to autobounce even stalingrad ap. I think the biggest problem with this thing is just how damn low it is in the water. You can't punish it when played poorly.
@thepaperbagmask
@thepaperbagmask 3 жыл бұрын
I hate playing against this ship solely because every time I expect a citadel I get overpens. That's just stupid
@MrSourkrause
@MrSourkrause 3 жыл бұрын
hell of a grind but its worth it. Talinn one of the worst cruisers in the game
@grizzz6884
@grizzz6884 3 жыл бұрын
i agree with you , i will have it very soon . i like that , people feel they can have a fight again , i have had some great battles againest the petro . havn't won yet . the other great thing is, its like the somlensk , it chases players away , evn though the soml can be one shotted from the back line
@brianpiggrem5303
@brianpiggrem5303 3 жыл бұрын
I think you should go back and try out Riga. I typically have a ton of fun in it, switching between dd hunter, HE bb farmer, and cruiser killer with the armor piercing. It doesn't have the tankiness of petro but it has the same caliber, reload, and radar. It kites reasonably well and it still has considerably more armor than Tallinn plus the heal.
@tilio9380
@tilio9380 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing I would say about the petro is that they are still susceptable to HE spam unlike some T10 BBs with deck armor. However even then, the stupidly low freeboard on this (as well as the Kremlin) makes them so much harder to hit from longer ranges.
@therichards8546
@therichards8546 3 жыл бұрын
Petro is my FAVOURITE ship. Like when I'm in that thing i have no fear. Pick a flank and just dominate. Fall back when needed heal up then more damage then GG
@rasmusroskjr3604
@rasmusroskjr3604 3 жыл бұрын
One point that was missed in the review, the AA. I shot down a full rocket squad of an FDR in one flak puff using DFAA, now the guy wasn't good at CVs but even if you dodge the flak, the AA values are amazing compared to a lot of other ships
@greggaminger
@greggaminger 3 жыл бұрын
Is there any point grinding the US heavy cruiser line anymore? I just got to the Baltimore, and the lack of range is becoming an issue. I know they have a different play style, US island hugging etc, but the Russian line seems to do everything the US does, but better? Interested to hear the views of people who have played both.
@07azrael
@07azrael 3 жыл бұрын
Lack of range sucks. I don't think des moines is at a good place right now.
@azukizeto1353
@azukizeto1353 3 жыл бұрын
The us line has better HE, and great concealment but shorter range. Russian line tend to have worse concealment but much longer range, less effective HE and larger turn radius.
@BIackCadillac
@BIackCadillac 3 жыл бұрын
New italian BB's should prove to be bigger petros if you see their armor btw.
@CloneDAnon
@CloneDAnon 3 жыл бұрын
New Italian BB's will wreck Petros with their SAP.
@arczer2519
@arczer2519 3 жыл бұрын
@@CloneDAnon assuming they hit, due to Petro small freeboard while avoiding armor belt
@CloneDAnon
@CloneDAnon 3 жыл бұрын
@@arczer2519 Trust me, they hit. Petro only sits low in the water, that does not mean that its deck is smaller.
@dzello
@dzello 3 жыл бұрын
@@CloneDAnon It doesn't. That ship is tiny as fuck. A ship sitting low in the water is WAAAY smaller.
@CloneDAnon
@CloneDAnon 3 жыл бұрын
​@@dzello Just like i said, it sits low in the water, but otherwise its not that tiny of a ship. I think its wider than Nevsky even. Anyway it only means that more HE will land into Petros deck and superstructure than its sides. Its not like Petro is a maneuverable ship.
@captainmadpat
@captainmadpat 3 жыл бұрын
Tallin is a strong ship when she is not uptiered, however she does lack a heal imo. Riga was a pain to grind through and I invested a lot of xp modifiers to get through her in ~30 games played. Petro is my favourite ship hands down...
@steeltrap3800
@steeltrap3800 3 жыл бұрын
Funny how many of these "questionable" ships are Soviet (and often never built). I'm sure that's entirely a coincidence.
@Egalogalis
@Egalogalis 3 жыл бұрын
I'm fairly certain it isn't intentional. I think it's the result of incompetence. The other nations actually had proper navies during the time period of the game, Russia didn't. Given there aren't designs to draw from WG have to invent ships - thus we end up with ships MADE for the game.
@Milliardo5
@Milliardo5 3 жыл бұрын
@@Egalogalis And yet they are still Russian. I think that's the whole point of it; why not make ships from the US, Germany or Japan that are just as good? So there must be something to the Russian bias...
@Egalogalis
@Egalogalis 3 жыл бұрын
@@Milliardo5 because the other nation's ships are or are heavily based on designs that were drawn up. Thus those ships have things accounted for that don't matter in game. Crew accommodation for example. Russian designs don't really exist so WG have nothing to base their ships on, so they totally make them up. And this mess is the result.
@Lisa-Azra_Broad
@Lisa-Azra_Broad 3 жыл бұрын
So what it is Russian, you don't have to have a Russian passport to play a Russian ship. The Thunderer is OP and British, the new American BB's are OP as well
@steeltrap3800
@steeltrap3800 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lisa-Azra_Broad New USN BBs are OP? That's one of the funnier things I've heard this year.
@xsouldriverx
@xsouldriverx 3 жыл бұрын
Engine that jukes like a DD or legendary DM, guns that pen better than a bismark, hull is a submarine, radar and detection are equal, 1000 shell speed, extra armor plate on vital parts, decently easy BB citadel power, and 360 degree turrets..... Remember this is post nerf too
@Foxbat2929
@Foxbat2929 3 жыл бұрын
Would be a pretty nice ship if I wasn't facing 4 thunderers every other game. What is armor against those things lmao
@wackadakka3134
@wackadakka3134 3 жыл бұрын
i ALWAYS push in with petro ...i see my job as a disruptor of enemy plans .lol
@ToeCutter454
@ToeCutter454 3 жыл бұрын
lol tanked 2.9 mil potential damage in a ranked game while dishing out over 100k, it's pretty nice but stalingrad and moskva still out rank it for damage/tank. i do love driving past BBs and sinking 9 citadels though :) what really makes that ship though is it's 360° turrets that allow you to turn and slalom while keeping all guns on target at almost the whole time. the AA isn't too bad either... had a CV in ranked just keep throwing planes at me till they finally killed me but not before i destroyed 47 planes and had almost 75k AA damage... almost double what i did to the enemy cruiser when i finally killed it.
@sameerkharade7750
@sameerkharade7750 3 жыл бұрын
Riga was fun too. I averaged at 1.7 million potential damage per match Have unlocked Petro and will buy it later 😆
@brantsemallory726
@brantsemallory726 3 жыл бұрын
It get's wrecked by Goliath - It was the perfect counter to the Petro last CB.
@vladimirsusic5335
@vladimirsusic5335 3 жыл бұрын
yes, i felt the same and even more when got Pietro.... first few games RNG was on my side, so those few games were epic.
@AllAhabNoMoby
@AllAhabNoMoby 3 жыл бұрын
I'm in the Riga atm. You will probably get this ship nerfed before I reach it LOL.
@giantdwarfulf
@giantdwarfulf 3 жыл бұрын
No no it won’t be nerfed because it Russian. Don’t worry
@andreid7277
@andreid7277 3 жыл бұрын
Just got it some days ago and I love it. If they ruin this as they ruined Vladi I'm done with this game.
@giantdwarfulf
@giantdwarfulf 3 жыл бұрын
@@andreid7277 what do you mean they ruined Vladi
@andreid7277
@andreid7277 3 жыл бұрын
@@giantdwarfulf it can't hit for shit at range
@mlauriti
@mlauriti 3 жыл бұрын
@@giantdwarfulf Vladi was a monster armor, my record of potential damage is in a vladi. 3millon+
@Sporting1210
@Sporting1210 3 жыл бұрын
The grind is ok for this one! Tallin is fun imo (but hey, i still enjoy playing the Chappa, so there's that^^) . You get the same ap-"vibe", where you can absolutely devastate people giving you broadside, if you get in good positions, and compared to the Chappa you can get away with quite a bit more agressive playstyle, while still having to be smart and carefull about your positioning. When you top-tier though, the Tallin feels like slapping people left and right. The Riga was a strange experience: Ship looks good, handles well, is fairly tanky, but kind of lacks the dmg potential? Specially the ap feels weaker then with Tallin and the Petro, That said, i agree completely on the Petro itself- Fun to play! Specially for people, who enjoy playing more agressive then it would be advised for cruisers these days and who want to support their dds at the caps. I might add, that i had a one on one against a Moskva lateley - both nose in - that i lost quite clearly due to the bad HE values and dispersion on longer range. After he angled in steeply, because my initiative AP salvos probably made him cringe, it didnt even feel like we were playing in the same league... whatever that experience is worth for anybody :P
@ObristPlayep
@ObristPlayep 3 жыл бұрын
2:58 I thought the limit was 283mm? I remember distinctly because 305 couldn’t get full pens either
@rothgartheviking858
@rothgartheviking858 3 жыл бұрын
Well this convinced me to spend the FXP. I am tired of Grinding. First game 4 kills 125k damage 12 citadels. It really is like a battleship.
@Daniel-ht8zz
@Daniel-ht8zz 3 жыл бұрын
This Thing is just overpowered for a Cruiser
@blasterman789
@blasterman789 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is that now that WG has everybody paying for free XP to get the thing it will be micro nerfed to death.
@animebinger7974
@animebinger7974 3 жыл бұрын
*cries in Agir and Siegfried, who were supposed to receive icebreakers
@agoogleuseranonymous2658
@agoogleuseranonymous2658 3 жыл бұрын
The answer to this ship for BBs is the Thunderer. Hardest hitting HE.
@drewbieroks6119
@drewbieroks6119 3 жыл бұрын
I'm somewhat confused: BB or cruiser? The terms have been used interchangeably throughout the video. Have I missed something?
@tjneumann7828
@tjneumann7828 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Petro is a cruiser with more armor than most BB's
@lennhsu
@lennhsu 3 жыл бұрын
PQ is clearly being intentionally sarcastic here because Petro, being a cruiser, actually is capable of tankiness and aggressive play that is impossible for any battleship to achieve. Thus it is the best "battleship".
@jakubw.2779
@jakubw.2779 3 жыл бұрын
@@forgingflame but there's no battlecruisers in wows. Kongo and Amagi were designed as battlecruisers too. However there's also displacement. Deutchland class were classified as cruisers despite having 11 inch guns. Also there was London naval treaty in 1930 which changed mamy things
@jakubw.2779
@jakubw.2779 3 жыл бұрын
@@forgingflame No, Russia wasn't one of the signatories
@k0nrad21
@k0nrad21 3 жыл бұрын
What camo is that? Saw some Gold camos in randoms and i wonder how to get them.
@ismaelelboujadaini9546
@ismaelelboujadaini9546 3 жыл бұрын
The cammo they give you in ranked I think
@k0nrad21
@k0nrad21 3 жыл бұрын
@@ismaelelboujadaini9546 You are right, thx. Can get it for 15 and 18 wins in gold league.
@dougalachi
@dougalachi 3 жыл бұрын
Lol rear turret traverses 360°. Does any other CA or BB do that?
@josephcowie342
@josephcowie342 3 жыл бұрын
Petro's AP angles are actually worse than Stalingrad, and quite a bit worse than Des Moines. They're only improved by 5°, so the Ricochet angles are 50-65° as compared to the standard 45-60°, the Stalingrad 55-65°, and the American superheavy 60-67.5°. Of course, that doesn't actually balance the ship in the slightest, since it still has ridiculous shell speed, absurd pen, incredible armour (including 300mm of spaced citadel armour (Des Moines citadel has 152mm, Stalingrad's has 180mm, Henri's spaced troll armour only adds up to 215mm, and even something like Yamato only has 410mm) and a 50mm icebreaker and deck) with very low freeboard, 360° turrets with good firing angles, good AA and radar. All of that, 'balanced' by..... an 'average' reload, poor HE, and 'poor' dispersion at long range I used to be fairly doubtful of the Russian bias meme/accusation. Not anymore. Not since they released Petro with all of the above and also stealth radar.
@phil21s
@phil21s 3 жыл бұрын
I feel this thing is just stupid. Don't get me wrong, it is strong and can be fun as hell, yet you also can play this thing dumb as bread. Showing broadside to anyone? RNG says nobody will hit your tiny citadel, anyway. See something to shoot at? AP devastates it. Comparing it to other cruisers it is just dumb strong, like brute force. It really is more a battleship, maybe I should play it more like that in the future...
@droidmotorola3884
@droidmotorola3884 3 жыл бұрын
as an RN CLs main I don't even know how do deal with this ship on my own.
@ibnu9969
@ibnu9969 3 жыл бұрын
I do know though. You in a mino you see a petro, you find an island. Hide. And pray. Pray a lot.
@mjxw
@mjxw 3 жыл бұрын
Play an RN CA and burn it down in Goliath. That was the only way to deal with it in CBs last season.
@tilio9380
@tilio9380 3 жыл бұрын
You run.
@rexstuff4655
@rexstuff4655 3 жыл бұрын
I dunno. Sure she's tanky, but I find that whenever I pull the trigger in Petro, I'm thinking "man, I could be playing Stalingrad".
@RPGTKingpin
@RPGTKingpin 3 жыл бұрын
She's a better Stalingrad. No joke. Take Stalin, lower her in the water so her citadel is virtually unhittable at range. Then give her 360 degree turrets. There you go :P
@rexstuff4655
@rexstuff4655 3 жыл бұрын
@@RPGTKingpin Yeah, and take away the amazing 2.65 sigma, the 16mm overmatch, the punch of the 305s, the serviceable HE, halve the 30s radar, and reduce the AP pen angles.
@RPGTKingpin
@RPGTKingpin 3 жыл бұрын
@@rexstuff4655 Fair enough. But what even has sub-16mm armour at T10 aside from maybe light cruisers? From what I've seen Petro and Stalin both have improved AP pen angles. I don't recall the specifics of Stalin's guns, but Petro's 220s have the penetrating power of German 380mm guns.
@m_swizzy22
@m_swizzy22 3 жыл бұрын
Just got the petro, first game in it, 120k damage, lost of course because team mates were bigger enemies but I like it already
@serve_xt4298
@serve_xt4298 3 жыл бұрын
Tallin is not bad but its not that special, but Riga is a lidl Petro, capabale of tanking a Georgia close range and shattering all her secondary hits. I remember forcing one to switch into HE after 4 minutes of shooting at me bow in without much effect xD.
@akane.sakurada
@akane.sakurada 3 жыл бұрын
I was so sick of Petros popping out of everywhere that I took my Moskva to ranked. Fun enough, it did a really good enough job at countering Petros. Most of the time they want to push towards you, and they can't do anything about your armor as long as you stay bow in. You out DPM it on HE and just reversing slowly is enough to get rid of a Petro. It's just risky because of the concealment difference between the ships and giving the slightest of broadside means death in such situation. Unlike Petro, Moskva just pulls shells to its citadel like a magnet. After all, yet once again, the only way to counter Russian bias is to use another Russian bias ship.
@CloneDAnon
@CloneDAnon 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention that Moskva has much better accuracy than Petro.
@julianrenardy4398
@julianrenardy4398 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny I just bought this ship for like 10 mins ago by selling my Riga:)
@grizzz6884
@grizzz6884 3 жыл бұрын
14. 39 using the w keys wins games now days . its having a ship that can stay alive long enough for your team mates take out the other team while you are froucsed fired . the JB is a beast at it . but dose reley on your team being awake . i have never won a target practice game yet
@CloneDAnon
@CloneDAnon 3 жыл бұрын
Petro accuracy is terrible and Thunderer or Conqueror can burn down a nose in Petro quite quickly. The only thing Petro is tanky is against AP when its nose in. People need to stop spamming AP into a nose Petro. You switch to HE even with all BB's and CA's. Petro goes down just as fast as any other heavy cruiser vs HE that has decent pen. I prefer Nevsky over Petro anytime, since at least Nevsky can maneuver.
@CloneDAnon
@CloneDAnon 3 жыл бұрын
Oh and Petro eats SAP quite nicely and it will eat even more SAP after Italian BB's will roll out.
@nailed2ax_126
@nailed2ax_126 3 жыл бұрын
I have over 500games with the petro, not once have i used HE, i love the AP way to much
@leek7412
@leek7412 3 жыл бұрын
I was in clan battles they had 3 petros and a thunderer.That was it for me got wasted in the salem.
@mattrix36
@mattrix36 3 жыл бұрын
tallin is good at its tier and can uptier ok but caution needed. riga is randomly ok and situational generally. still a good DD killer.
@flfar3445
@flfar3445 3 жыл бұрын
tallin and riga and this are the best in the line but i like your taste also!
@Irgendwie95
@Irgendwie95 3 жыл бұрын
I know this Video is about the Petro but can we talk about how Maltese gets a witherer after 5 mins and a High Caliber aufter 7 mins? Never seen it that quick in Randoms
@grizzz6884
@grizzz6884 3 жыл бұрын
i play on asia , if you time it right and play with the pros , you GET to watch them farm , have had some very fast random battles and only shot a few times
@angelapolinar5343
@angelapolinar5343 2 жыл бұрын
Petropavlovsk is the Soviet counterpart to the German pocket battleships, and would have served in the Black, White, Mediterranean, or Japan seas if she had actually been built.
@Biiggles
@Biiggles 3 жыл бұрын
What mods is being used?
@EricDKaufman
@EricDKaufman 3 жыл бұрын
How did you do that to that Yoshino.... I can never citadel a yoshino in my Petro. They are my NEMESIS!!!!
@youyouyu2912
@youyouyu2912 3 жыл бұрын
tbh the improved pen angle on petro is not as good as the US CAs'. However combine with the shell velocity and ballistic, plus the crazy penetration this gun can easily get full pens.
@todorp4056
@todorp4056 3 жыл бұрын
Cruises without Fire Prevention, burn well
@adw3953
@adw3953 3 жыл бұрын
Is it not a heavvy cruiser not a bb
@johnvanlindingham9490
@johnvanlindingham9490 3 жыл бұрын
Is this available in blitz
@roydelpozo4816
@roydelpozo4816 3 жыл бұрын
do you not have stalingrad? compare it to this ship.
@tds6631
@tds6631 3 жыл бұрын
dont forget how if you have to kite it has crazy kiting angles....
@BIackCadillac
@BIackCadillac 3 жыл бұрын
It's kinda unhealthy for the game to have a cruiser like this but hey dude it's fun.
@harrisonw9883
@harrisonw9883 3 жыл бұрын
Had an 8 kill 200k dmg game in riga. Havent even reched petro. But tallin is also a dam good ship in this tech line
@b1gari
@b1gari 3 жыл бұрын
Tallinn and Riga are awesome. After recent buff Tallinn has better pen than DM KEKW
@gusp6612
@gusp6612 3 жыл бұрын
With Mikoyan dispersion.. that’s a massive discount.
@maxterhex
@maxterhex 3 жыл бұрын
1 more thing - this ship (even without DAA) have better AA then Des Moines and Worcester (even with DAA).
@Gambit.31
@Gambit.31 3 жыл бұрын
how to change my fov like you?
@MrSoloun
@MrSoloun 3 жыл бұрын
Kewl I've sorta stalled on the Tallin, it's like both AP and HE do nothing much at all regardless :) Probably worth pushing through though from the looks.
@kc_was_here737
@kc_was_here737 3 жыл бұрын
Sooo many ways this ship could be nerfed, and it's still probably gonna be amazing. Easily my favorite CA
@grizzz6884
@grizzz6884 3 жыл бұрын
the best part of this ship is , why war gaming put in over powered ships , to stir up some life in the game . the new mode of target practice is not for me and i don't see how war gamming make money with slow matches because you will have less games in a night
@leemarcus6123
@leemarcus6123 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, when viewed as a cruiser, it really wasn't the best ship for that role... Other cruisers have got accuracy, DPM, mobility to boot for weaker armor. You want a lock down ship that hunt down DDs instead of scaring them off with a radar? There's Des Moines, Mino and Nevsky. You want DPM? You got Des Moines, Mino. You want a flamethrower? there's Goliath, Nevsky, Smolensk. You want a Kiter? You got Henri, Zao, Venezia. You want an all-purpose? Des Moines, Hinden... Considering you are going to be matched up against a cruiser in the random queue, your contribution to the team's victory as a cruiser would be dependant on your enemy's awareness of you. The ship atm isn't really that OP as it only good at flanking BBs and cruiser with its concealment then blap their broadside, and given the current thunderer and co spams on top of CV, Petro could hardly do its job, resorting to blapping idiots broadsiding in tier 10. Tbh once thunderer spams died down a bit, the only nerf this thing need is a reclassification to battlecruiser so Goliaths, Hinden and other 305mm super cruisers can kill it much faster and fire hurts way more like it should. (A nerf into 10km radar would also work to help the issue of radar saturation in high tiers, but doesn't progress well considering Riga and Tallinn kinda rely on their 12km radar on their playstyle) The most broken thing of this thing is how well it fits in competitive games like CB as those games are more like attrition wars, where the games can easily snowballs to one team's favour very quickly due to the increase in communication and strategizing. Petro fits right in due to its very good armor profile and 1CV/BB limit, effectively making Petro another BB in the cruiser slot. But that's mostly a flaw in Clan Brawl and competitive gamemode design rather than Petro, as there are no hard limit on how many unique ship there is in one team, thus allowing the spamming of Petros in CB and KOTS.
@EK4Ash
@EK4Ash 3 жыл бұрын
reset my US CA line (regret) and i use petro as my Des memes replacement, I like the ship but tend to get focused down if i push to far, I really recommend it though its basically what the kremlin dreams to be.
@zastronomer7592
@zastronomer7592 3 жыл бұрын
petro can citadel yamato. thats how good the guns are. Edit:even after reload nerf, still very strong. kremlin at long range is actually ok... it usually hits a few shells that those shells hit pretty hard.
@Demorid
@Demorid 3 жыл бұрын
Tallinn is pain, Riga is a fine ship and is not too terrible to grind but I mostly free exp my petro.
@μιατρελητρεληφαρμα
@μιατρελητρεληφαρμα 3 жыл бұрын
The Riga is great!
@nickarooroo6397
@nickarooroo6397 3 жыл бұрын
Riga is good, Tallin was excruciatingly painful tho
@Apollyon-er4ut
@Apollyon-er4ut 3 жыл бұрын
IMO, while I found the Tallin not that fun, though by the end, i was comfortable. I really like the Riga, way better than any of the other T9 tech tree CAs that I've played (Buff., Roon, Neptune). BUT, my goal was definately the Petra
@nobodyyouknow1601
@nobodyyouknow1601 3 жыл бұрын
This is way better than Kremlin. Why did I ever even touch Russian BB's? Why does anyone even touch anything else besides Russian Heavy Cruiser line, XD.
@saulmanuelpena1367
@saulmanuelpena1367 3 жыл бұрын
I go Full AA Petro build. Best game so far was 92 planes in a single match... Think it means something hahaha
@andrewduan5123
@andrewduan5123 3 жыл бұрын
Ive been saying this for a while, Petro is just a small BB
@Wischmob_vE
@Wischmob_vE 3 жыл бұрын
And now imagine this ship with Kutsnetsov ... And people say there is no russian bias.
@CloneDAnon
@CloneDAnon 3 жыл бұрын
Petro accuracy is terrible and Thunderer or Conqueror can burn down a nose in Petro quite quickly. The only thing Petro is tanky is against AP when its nose in. People need to stop spamming AP into a nose Petro. You switch to HE even with all BB's and CA's. Petro goes down just as fast as any other heavy cruiser vs HE that has decent pen.
@TheDinons
@TheDinons 3 жыл бұрын
Ye Petro can be nasty with ap,lots of overpens,but i get caught fwe times by Warchester. guns cant keep up rotation to folow that fast ship so if u get in that kind of situation just dont let him pass ....anw i love that ship ,not much games in it but when i get in ....
@gavrutin5
@gavrutin5 3 жыл бұрын
tallin is actually good especialy now after ap pen buff. riga is realy bad
@19Crusader91
@19Crusader91 3 жыл бұрын
Citadels need to be vulnerable. Period. They should be considered solid and should always fuse ap that pens its armor.
@xXDERPTRAINSXx
@xXDERPTRAINSXx 3 жыл бұрын
Here’s an idea for future video: how to use islands
@grizzz6884
@grizzz6884 3 жыл бұрын
yer remove them
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